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Final 2008 Obama vs. McCain Presidential Predictions (and Senate Predictions)
Posted by Ashish on 11.03.2008



Here we are, on the verge of history. Either we will see Obama win tonight and become the first African American President in U.S. history, or we will see McCain win tonight and Palin become the first female Vice President in history. We may also see a historical landslide, or we may see the biggest collapse of polling ever. Let's face it, if the polls are accurate, tonight will be a big win for Obama. There isn't a single pollster showing McCain within 5% of Obama right now and polling data points to Obama getting over 300 electoral votes. If McCain wins, Obama won't be the only one who goes down, the entire polling industry will go down with him.

All that being said, here's my final map.


Obama 362, McCain 176

And my popular vote prediction:
Obama 52%, McCain 46%, 2% Other

Topping 50% is symbolically important for Democrats. Bill Clinton never did it. The last Democrat to win the Presidential election with over 50% was Jimmy Carter in 1976. He got 50.1%.

Here are my state-by-state predictions.

Arizona: McCain 54%, Obama 45%, 1% Other
McCain should hold on to his homestate fairly comfortably when all is said and done.

Colorado: Obama 51%, McCain 46%, 3% Other
Obama has a big advantage in early voting, one that I think will be tough for McCain to overcome. Obama's ground operation in Colorado is massive and that should be enough to ensure his supporters get to the polls.

Florida: Obama 51%, McCain 47%, 2% Other
I think the Obama campaign will have success in turning out big numbers of black and Latino voters and also getting the Democratic base out, and that's all Obama needs here to win. It's also important that over 40% of the electorate has already voted, and Democrats seem to have a significant advantage among those voters.

Iowa: Obama 56%, McCain 43%, 1% Other
Obama, if anything, could overperform in Iowa thanks to his massive, proven ground operation.

Indiana: Obama 49%, McCain 48%, 1% Other
I think the lack of a ground game in Indiana for McCain will cost him the state.

Georgia: Obama 48.0%, McCain 47.5%, 4.5% Other
Watch out for massive black turnout, as well as the Bob Barr factor. This one could be the shocker of the night. The fact that the RNC is now apparently up in Georgia with last-second robocalls is a sign that they are concerned about the state.

Missouri: McCain 50%, Obama 49%, 1% Other
This one may end up being the closest state on the map. I'm going to give it to McCain mainly because I don't think Obama will win all the toss-ups, but make no mistake about it, Obama's ground game dwarfs McCain's here and that will be a big factor.

Montana: Obama 48%, McCain 47%, 5% Other
The Ron Paul factor could shave as much as 5% from McCain's total. And while the state has not released early voting numbers, I suspect that Obama's big ground advantage probably has resulted in him going into election day with a lead.

North Carolina: Obama 49%, McCain 48%, 3% Other
Obama appears to have a big advantage in early voting. That, coupled with big black turnout, a somewhat shaky Republican ground game in the state, and the massive Obama ground machine, may lead to another upset.

Nevada: Obama 52%, McCain 46%, 2% Other
Obama should rack up huge margins in Clark County (and appears to already have done so in early voting) and that will probably be enough to hold McCain off.

New Hampshire: Obama 53%, McCain 45%, 2% Other
This one shouldn't be all that close. Even if McCain overperforms, I don't think he has any pathway to win the state.

New Mexico: Obama 54%, McCain 44%, 2% Other
Big Hispanic turnout should be enough to put this state away for Obama. Plus Obama likely has a big lead in early voting.

North Dakota: McCain 51%, Obama 47%, 2% Other
The lack of Ron Paul on the ballot here is why I have McCain winning here but losing in Montana.

Ohio: McCain 51%, Obama 47%, 2% Other
Obama will probably underperform considerably in Ohio, as he did in the primaries, due to, um, "cultural" issues. Ohio remains one of the few states where the Republican machine from 2004 is still mostly in place. The one thing Obama has going for him here is that the state did have early voting and turnout seemed to be big, though we don't have any exact numbers.

Pennsylvania: Obama 50%, McCain 47%, 3% Other
It'll be fairly close, as I think Obama will underperform in the state slightly due to, again, "cultural" issues, but huge turnout in Philadelphia should be enough for Obama to hold the state.

Virginia: Obama 50%, McCain 48%, 2% Other
Big black turnout, coupled with Obama's huge ground operation and McCain's lack of one, will probably get Obama over the finish line, but it'll probably be really close.


The rest of the states aren't too much in doubt.

McCain:
* Alaska
* Alabama
* Arkansas
* Idaho
* Kansas
* Kentucky
* Louisiana
* Nebraska
* Oklahoma
* Mississippi
* South Carolina
* South Dakota
* Tennessee
* Texas
* Utah
* West Virginia
* Wyoming

Obama:
* California
* Connecticut
* D.C.
* Delaware
* Hawaii
* Iowa
* Illinois
* Massachusetts
* Maryland
* Maine
* Michigan
* Minnesota
* New Jersey
* New York
* Oregon
* Rhode Island
* Vermont
* Washington
* Wisconsin


As for the Senate races, I think the Democrats will fall one short of 60, scoring eight pick-ups to get them up to a 59 seat majority. Here are my predictions for pick-ups..

Democratic Pick-Ups: +8
* Alaska: Begich (D) beats Stevens (R)
* Colorado: Udall (D) beats Schaffer (R)
* Minnesota: Franken (D) beats Coleman (R)
* New Hampshire: Shaheen (D) beats Sununu
* New Mexico: Udall (D) beats Pearce (R)
* North Carolina: Hagan (D) beats Dole (R)
* Oregon: Merkley (D) beats Smith (R)
* Virginia: Warner (D) beats Gilmore (R)

Republican Pick-Ups: 0
* None

The Georgia race between Martin and Chambliss may end up going into a run-off. If it does, it'll have a lot riding on it since it would represent the Democrats' potential 60th seat.


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Living in fantasy land a bit, huh? Obama won't win quite a few of the states you listed; namely Georgia, Nevada and Montana. Get real.

Posted By: LOL (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 12:12 AM

 
 
You have Indiana going or Obama and not Ohio? You're crazy man... you're crazy...

That being said ill be casting my vote to prove you wrong on that one.


Posted By: whoa (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 12:19 AM

 
 
Breaking news..

First precinct reports from Dicksville Notch, New Hampshire

Obama – 15 votes
McCain – 6 votes

This is the first time that Dicksville Notch has gone for the Democrat since 1968!


Posted By: Dennisv21 (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 12:29 AM

 
 
Obama will win TEXAS! Keep an eye out there, early voting is shattering records, watch it

Posted By: Joe (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 12:42 AM

 
 
That map is mighty optimistic for Obama. I still think this race will be close for some reason. I don't know why though b/c I think Obama will take Virginia early and then it's a matter of by how large a margin Obama wins. If Obama can take Georgia or Indiana, wow. Talk about making a statement.

Posted By: Jonathan Solomon (Registered)  on November 04, 2008 at 12:53 AM

 
 
Well, first results are in: Dixville Notch, NH, a village with 21 registered voters and has traditionally been the nation's "first vote" goes for Obama 15-6. It's the first time the village has gone Democrat since 1968. Could this be a harbinger of things to come?

Posted By: Stu (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 01:12 AM

 
 
I can tell you from firsthand experience, John McCain will lose in Indiana because of Ron Paul Republicans like myself and the 576 others who voted for the good doctor in the Vanderburgh County primary.

Look for third party choices Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin to surprise in this state!

We will not tolerate anymore straying of the Republican Party. We will either bring it back to its roots or defect and work against them in every election. The choice is theirs.


Posted By: Brad Linzy (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 01:12 AM

 
 
i live in nc. the nc senate race is interesting in two ways.

1. liz dole attacks kay hagan's christianity or lack of it. that turned alot of people off.

2.liz dole also ran an ad that assumes obama wins. that is sad when a member of mccain's own party assumes victory for his opponent.


Posted By: rey (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 01:28 AM

 
 
Much though I want to I just find it hard to call Indiana and Georgia for the Dems...

Posted By: Pete Thorn (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 02:35 AM

 
 
Your political analysis is seriously hot, Ashish.

Posted By: Jessica (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 02:47 AM

 
 
Living in Indiana, I can say that the previous poster who brought up Ron Paul was right. Indiana was one of the states that Ron Paul really made waves in. Of course he won't come anywhere close to garnering a respectable percentage of the vote, but he CAN chip away at McCain enough to give Obama a possible (but not entirely likely) win.

Posted By: Guest#9316 (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 04:45 AM

 
 
I'll admit, there are going to be some surprises in this election, but, IN going Obama, and Ohio not? Pretty bold move. I like it however. I mean, why not?

I like the NC, GA, and VA picks as well. You should have gone ahead and thrown MO in there while you were at it.

But seriously, I think its important to re-focus at this point.

There are really on five states that matter. NH, PA, IA, CO, and NM. If Obama wins those, its over. And its virtually assured he will at this point.
All that's left is to tally up the final numbers in those state to see how big the win is.

Stop making it harder than it has to be. Guess what. 273 is a win. Just like 338. Or 357.


Posted By: willia451 (Registered)  on November 04, 2008 at 05:04 AM

 
 
Swing vote. American is not ready.....

Posted By: Swing (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 08:02 AM

 
 
Rain along the Eastern seaboard will suppress election day turnout. This combined with early voting that heavily favored Democrats could mean trouble for the Republic Party

Posted By: rainman (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 08:17 AM

 
 
I think you're wrong about Ohio, Ashish.

Based on record turn out for early voting (at least in Dayton), my friend stood in line for two hours on Friday. He's black, and he said most of the people there were, too. Granted, Dayton has a much different political climate than Columbus or urban Cinci, I still strongly believe that Obama is going to win Ohio.


Posted By: Ben Czajkowski (Registered)  on November 04, 2008 at 10:00 AM

 
 
I have Obama winning 51.5% of the popular vote. McCain will get about 48.2% and the other 0.3% will go to 'others.' I think Obama will garner 311 EVs. I see him winning these 2004 red states:

Virginia
Iowa
Ohio
Colorado
New Mexico
Nevada

I don't see Obama winning these red states, but all of them could be very, very close:

Missouri
North Carolina
Florida
Georgia
Montana

I think McCain will win Indiana and North Dakota handily.


Posted By: Dennisv21 (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 10:37 AM

 
 
F**k Bob Barr, Nader, and Ron Paul!!!

Posted By: G.O.P. 4 life.... (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 11:19 AM

 
 
There have been GOP ads running in Chicago the last few days picturing Obama and Wright together with the slogan: "Obama. Too radical. Too risky." I hope he wins in a landslide so a message is sent about the result of negative campaigning, especially open racism.

Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 01:18 PM

 
 
I don't see why highlighting Obama & Wright is "racist". Imagine if McCain had a preacher, who he had a close personal relationship with, who had a history of making disparging comments about blacks. Your telling me Dems would not bring that up? I don't think the Wright issue is that important, but I fail to see why bringing up Obama's past associations is racist.

Posted By: Jackson (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 02:22 PM

 
 
I still believe the Bradley effect will swing GA and NC to McCain.

Posted By: BobbyC (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 02:49 PM

 
 
I am as anti-Obama as they come (as a politician, not a person), and I HATE HATE HATE Joe Biden (the 800 lb gorilla of evil that NOBODY is talking about)...

That said, I can't in good conscience vote for a warrior when we need a diplomat.

Obama is going to win...

HOPEFULLY one of the third parties (Liberarian or Green preferably) gets the 5% of the vote needed for full federal funding in 2012.

Because I think it's clear that there are a LOT of people who do not agree with the democrats but are NOT represented by the Republicans.


Posted By: M:-X (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 03:23 PM

 
 
Four more years!

Posted By: swanson (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 03:27 PM

 
 
I think we will see four more years of Republican rule in the WHITE House...sorry dawg!

Posted By: George W. Bush (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 04:08 PM

 
 
as a Canadian I wanted to say how much more interesting the US election has been to follow than our recent federal election.

in years past I had noted that our political ads seemed to move to a US style of negative or attack campaign. Basically saying how bad the other guy is but not how good their candidate was. This year though I think we passed you americans in the mudslinging. Personally i think thats a sad state.

Politically, I'm not entirely sold on Obama but I think McCain's time was 8 years ago. He just doesn't seem to be the leader he was then. I was shocked when the GOP picked Bush for 2000.


Posted By: CK (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 04:13 PM

 
 
I have as an Englishman loved watching the last two weeks build up to your election i think obama will win but ask yourself this does it really matter sure he an macain say there policy's are different but remember they are both politicians which means they are cheats and liars and when there not kissing babies and telling you what you want to here there stealing your savings and raising taxes

Posted By: guest (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 04:49 PM

 
 
just to put my voice out there i say go OBAMA!! im not at all elligible to vote.... or even spell... but i wanted to put that out there..

Posted By: th innocence of 15yrs (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 05:39 PM

 
 
WOW thats all i can say! i can not believe there are such people out there like some of you! you guys are "effin" jerks!!! OMBAMA is no different than anyone of us! deal with it... you freaking racists out there piss me the F*** off... i may only be 16 but really... GROW UP

Posted By: hiding behind deep blue (Guest)  on November 04, 2008 at 05:43 PM

 
 
Everyone seems to believe that the election of Senator Obama will bring about "change". Unfortunately the erosion of civil rights will continue. There will still be a crisis in the first year of the new President's term to cement the populace behind him. It will be more smoke and mirrors. It will be more bread and circuses.

The Posse Comitatus Act has still be severely weakened (if not destroyed).

Telecom amnesty is still in effect where the government can spy on you without warning.

The Patriot Act is still in effect.

And there are many more violations of the Constitution that no one speaks of.

Is this election historic? Yes! I do not doubt that in the slightest. As an African-American, it makes me proud that my children will be able to see someone who looks like them as the leader of our nation. But that does not give Senator Obama the opportunity to continue the policies the media doesn't mention.

He still voted for telecom amnesty.
He still voted for the government bailout.

Please everyone...

After the election, do not rest on your laurels. Hold the government accountable for its actions. They are trying to fool you. There have been so many violations of our beloved Constitution that go unreported.

The media will not inform you of them.

You must find out on your own.

Do you own research!

Hold their collective feet to the fire!

Think!


Posted By: MrKatapat (Registered)  on November 04, 2008 at 06:59 PM

 
STAY CURRENT




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