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411mania's UFC Undisputed league discussion thread
      #6381516 - 05/11/09 04:17 PM

I'm thinking of making a 411mania league for UFC Undisputed, though it's in the planning stages only at this point and need some input from potential fighters.

We have two options - use regular fighters or go to created fighters. Either way we'd hold off on starting the league until the game has been out for two weeks to allow people to pick it up and get some practice time in. I'm thinking we'd kick things off at the start of June. If we go the CAF route, we'd be able to take as many people as are interested, but people would need time to finish the single player so they can take their CAF online with full stats.

Regardless of which way we go, we'd start with no champions and no rankings. A randomly-seeded tournament would be held to determine champions as well as starting ranks.

After the initial seeding tournament we'd have weekly ranking battles to allow people to move up/down the rankings. The championship wouldn't be on the line during this period, and I'm thinking the number-one contender spot would be locked down after three weeks.

At the end of the four-week ranking period, we'd hold a PPV. Championships would be on the line, and there'd be an undercard of challenge fights determined by the league. We'll have a PPV poster for the events, along with a hype video and results posted after, all posted in the games zone.

Scheduled fights during the rankings period would have a one-week period to be fought, with opponents scheduling a time that works best for both of them. Not showing up for a scheduled fight within 10-15 minutes of the scheduled start will be a 'no show' loss. A disconnect, regardless of cause, will be ruled a loss for the person who disconnected.

I'm thinking there'd be a 'don't waste our time' clause - three 'no show' losses and you're out of the league. Three disconnects and you're out of the league.

Any ideas on how to do things differently, particularly in terms of the ranking shuffles? I'm not sure how to do that fairly, given that the championship won't potentially change hands until the PPV.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Rod Oracheski]
      #6381562 - 05/11/09 04:46 PM

the CAF route sounds neat

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: cough]
      #6381564 - 05/11/09 04:49 PM

I'm 100% down to be part of the league. Doesn't matter to me if its with CAWs or pre-made fighters.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: punchdrunk]
      #6381566 - 05/11/09 04:50 PM

I want to participate. Will someone buy the game for me?

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: r0ach]
      #6381576 - 05/11/09 05:01 PM

I'm all in.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Seth the Gambler]
      #6381585 - 05/11/09 05:22 PM

Oh I am totally down for this.
CAF would be best


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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Leslie Vernon]
      #6381601 - 05/11/09 05:38 PM

The problem with doing the CAF route would be that making a 'hype video' for the PPV would mean I'd need the formula you used to create your look, so I can capture the footage needed. Wouldn't be that big of a deal, I'd just use my other HDD for that saved game so it didn't take up my CAF slots

The bigger issue is that you need to finish the single player to use your CAF online with their 'full' stats. I'd hate to see it held up because someone couldn't burn through the game.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Rod Oracheski]
      #6381632 - 05/11/09 06:34 PM

yeah that sounds cool, and the people that are really dedicated to "the league" can hurry up and finish the damn single player if they really want to be a part of it

maybe we could have two brackets, a lottery for random selection of default fighters(so nobody fights over who gets to be Silva or Penn, etc) and another bracket for the best of the 411 grown best

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Drue Phoenix]
      #6381637 - 05/11/09 06:46 PM

How about instituting a League Draft with picks assigned randomly?

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: punchdrunk]
      #6381666 - 05/11/09 07:23 PM

What about weight divisions?

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Samer Kadi]
      #6381669 - 05/11/09 07:29 PM

well considering the only people that can move between weight classes are those that have done it in real life, I'm pretty sure we're restricted to that anyway

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Drue Phoenix]
      #6381680 - 05/11/09 08:04 PM

I'd totally be down for this, though I'd rather just go the non-CAF route. I just never get into the create modes in games, I dunno why.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: TraceAber]
      #6381681 - 05/11/09 08:10 PM

I'm definitely interested. Gamertag is X Matt Young X.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Matt Young]
      #6381793 - 05/11/09 10:08 PM

Count me in. Just waiting for it to come out to start wrecking heads.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: RawManiac]
      #6381815 - 05/11/09 10:24 PM

I'm down. I'd prefer CAF but it's whatever.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Samer Kadi]
      #6381858 - 05/11/09 11:01 PM

Quote:

What about weight divisions?




You can only fight guys in your weight class, so that's taken care of. If there's a class that doesn't have enough entries, we'd have to ask the guy to switch. So long as there's four or five, I'd be willing to run the weight bracket since people can be added in down the road easily enough.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Rod Oracheski]
      #6394709 - 05/12/09 12:59 AM

I think it would be fun.

The CAF guys will be wildly varied on skill though. I had a couple weeks with the game and my first couple CAF's for career mode sucked when compared to the real fighters, even at the end of their careers. So just to point out the large disparity that could arrive depending on who is good at the training aspects and who isn't.

I think my best guy who was a MT guy only got to the low 70s in clinch offense. Or maybe I just suck that bad.

But hey, maybe that's part of the fun.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Newbs]
      #6394719 - 05/12/09 01:24 AM

is it annoying training minigames like in Fight Night 3? or even worse, the ones from Don King's abortion of a game?

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Drue Phoenix]
      #6394721 - 05/12/09 01:29 AM

Oh no, you just spar against the CPU and then depending how well you did, distribute points. But if you do piss poor, you hardly get anything along the way. And between that and doing auto point gains for your Str/Spd/Cardio it makes for finding a balance.

But getting enough skill points to work on all 16 skills is hard work. And the higher you level them, the higher the cost is to make a particular skill elite.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Newbs]
      #6394768 - 05/12/09 08:36 AM

I'm definitely down.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The JZA]
      #6394813 - 05/12/09 09:38 AM

I prefer CAF.

Barack Obama will dominate you motherfuckers.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Arthur Mitchell]
      #6394831 - 05/12/09 09:55 AM

*envisions a future Obama (Ash) vs. Bush (Nemesis) bout*

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: punchdrunk]
      #6394845 - 05/12/09 10:06 AM

Nem should make Dick Cheney instead. No one really wants to beat Bush up, it's Emperor Palpatine we're going after.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Arthur Mitchell]
      #6394847 - 05/12/09 10:06 AM

What does the Pope have to do with this?

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The JZA]
      #6394853 - 05/12/09 10:14 AM



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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The JZA]
      #6394862 - 05/12/09 10:25 AM

Why not start with real characters, then after it runs for a bit, if it is going well you can opt to start up a CAF tourney. This is an awesome idea by the way.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Todd Vote]
      #6395000 - 05/12/09 12:37 PM

Well the idea is to keep it rolling indefinitely, so maybe CAF is the way to go from the start. That would let us have more fighters and would let people 'restart' with a new CAF whenever they feel like it.

Something else I thought about but didn't get into the original post rewrite (had it all ready and got the 'form not valid' when I posted initially) was that during a championship fight we could have an eight-person party going, including the two guys fighting. Opens the way to trash talk and illicit gambling!

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Rod Oracheski]
      #6395013 - 05/12/09 12:47 PM

I just wish that they would enable a spectator mode when you're partied up.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The JZA]
      #6395030 - 05/12/09 01:01 PM

Yea I'm definitely in this. hopefully my income tax refund check come back this Friday,

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: CanDman]
      #6395034 - 05/12/09 01:07 PM

Once it is established I will be running an ultimate Fighter show party for new players.

Win the tournament and you are the ultimate fighter and get a contract with Rod's company.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Seth the Gambler]
      #6395040 - 05/12/09 01:11 PM

btw, my gamertag is lostcitysaint

i don't have any of you added, so add me and tell me who you are and we'll get this show on the road come the 19th


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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Leslie Vernon]
      #6395338 - 05/12/09 04:27 PM

Hey you guys might want to check your local Wal-Mart, Target etc...I went to Wal-Mart to get some Microsoft points and I saw that they already stocked the game, sadly I can't buy it yet but the Wal-Mart didn't get the memo about the release date.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: CanDman]
      #6395347 - 05/12/09 04:33 PM

That means it's already been shipped so some mom and pop stores will be willing to sell it.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The JZA]
      #6395694 - 05/13/09 12:36 AM

Is game stop offering anything with pre-orders of this? This is one game I would actually pre-order...

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Travis V Penguington]
      #6395738 - 05/13/09 01:47 AM

I believe you get download codes for Ryan Bader and Efrain Escudero if you pre-order there.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: punchdrunk]
      #6395746 - 05/13/09 02:16 AM

whoop dee doo?

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Drue Phoenix]
      #6395901 - 05/13/09 09:59 AM

I'm not even a big fan of UFC and I'm pretty pumped for this game.

You guys must be flipping out, less than a week to go.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Arthur Mitchell]
      #6395902 - 05/13/09 09:59 AM

Yup. I rarely watch MMA, but this game is Big Bouncy Tits.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The Evil Christmas Bomber]
      #6396141 - 05/13/09 01:04 PM

it also occasionally has big bouncy tits...

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The JZA]
      #6396220 - 05/13/09 01:45 PM

Birth has said that he down for the tournament.

And i quote

Quote:

J, sign me up for Rods faggoty Undisputed PPV comp thread bullshit.

and make sure they know I think they are retards and virgins

specifically Rod and Drue Phoenix because they annoy me.




Also can we get an update on who has signed up so far?

Once this thing launches, Rod start an officially official thread and I'll pin it.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The JZA]
      #6396430 - 05/13/09 04:31 PM

haha

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Drue Phoenix]
      #6396605 - 05/13/09 11:36 PM

I'm going to say fuck waiting and buy the game tomorrow. I have no will power.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: CanDman]
      #6396773 - 05/14/09 09:59 AM

I'm interested in seeing how my skills match up to other players online. A friend of mine came over last night and felt confident in his freshly practiced approach to Undisputed. I knocked him out four times in a row before he quit playing.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: punchdrunk]
      #6396783 - 05/14/09 10:09 AM

I fought Rua twice on Expert last night. Got into all this crazy ground shit.

Fights both ended with my blood everywhere, and me just covering up like a bitch with no recourse while he beats my face in. MY blood was splattered on both of our chests, it was pretty vicious.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Arthur Mitchell]
      #6396901 - 05/14/09 01:19 PM

yeah it's hard to keep it from getting frantic when the fucker knocks you to the mat, 5 seconds to either get him the fuck off of you, or lose lose lose

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Drue Phoenix]
      #6396917 - 05/14/09 01:32 PM

I kept holding down LB and spinning the RS like a madman. Whether that is the right thing to do I don't know, but it worked for a time.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: Arthur Mitchell]
      #6396921 - 05/14/09 01:33 PM

There needs to be an option for breaking a rule, and taking the deduction. Getting pounded soundly about the head and neck? Poke him in the eye. Take the deduction, but get stood up.

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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The Evil Christmas Bomber]
      #6396927 - 05/14/09 01:36 PM

Tuesday our battles and tournaments begin.




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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: The JZA]
      #6396940 - 05/14/09 01:47 PM

I am going to reek havoc like a night in shining armor from a long time ago!

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"The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own -- for the children, and the children yet unborn." - Rod Serling

"Death is but crossing the world, as friends do the seas; they live in one another still. For they must needs be present, that love and live in that which is omnipresent. In this divine glass they see face to face, and their converse is free, as well as pure. This is the comfort of friends; that though they may be said to die, yet their friendship and society are, in the best sense, ever present, because immortal." - William Penn


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Re: 411mania's UFC Undisputed league [Re: punchdrunk]
      #6397029 - 05/14/09 02:57 PM

I tried to buy it early today and they were going to sell it to me but the system put a big fat no-sell on the register, so I have to wait like the rest of you while the game teases me in the display case. I don't know of any mom and pop stores around here so I just have to wait.

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