i know alot don't like russo and i'm one of them but and i don't know who made the changes since the past month but TNA was headed in the direction everyone was hoping for with all the young wrestlers
So better direction + biggest wrestling star of all time = a bad thing? I don't follow your logic. If anything this is the BEST time for Hogan to join.
He's obviously concerned that the better direction is going to be dropped so TNA can become Hoganland and that is a totally legit concern.
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i know alot don't like russo and i'm one of them but and i don't know who made the changes since the past month but TNA was headed in the direction everyone was hoping for with all the young wrestlers
So better direction + biggest wrestling star of all time = a bad thing? I don't follow your logic. If anything this is the BEST time for Hogan to join.
He's obviously concerned that the better direction is going to be dropped so TNA can become Hoganland and that is a totally legit concern.
I admit that is a reasonable concern, but I'm not nearly as concerned considering the new booking direction only started about two weeks ago. If this were a more longterm thing where TNA might figure "Well THIS isn't working" I may be more worried.
Agree with Yak Man. Hogan and Bischoff and TNA aren't sayign anything fo the sort, and they *just* brought in Ed Ferrara to work with Russo. Doesn't sound like Hogan and the Bisch are taking over... yet.
There are a few matches I want to see from Hogan. We've never gotten Hogan/Foley for instance. I have NO interest in Hogan v. Sting, Nash or Steiner. I have only mild interest in Hogan v. Angle or JArrett. Aside from that maybe AJ, Joe, Lethal, Lashley, Morgan and Abyss would be interesting matches for Hogan. So if Hogan wrestles 6-10 times over the next year, then that's perfect, especially if he puts over even a couple of the younger guys (let him beat Foley, JJ, Angle and anyone else they need to keep him happy... Rhino is always good for that kind of thing).
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Quote: Agree with Yak Man. Hogan and Bischoff and TNA aren't sayign anything fo the sort, and they *just* brought in Ed Ferrara to work with Russo. Doesn't sound like Hogan and the Bisch are taking over... yet.
There are a few matches I want to see from Hogan. We've never gotten Hogan/Foley for instance. I have NO interest in Hogan v. Sting, Nash or Steiner. I have only mild interest in Hogan v. Angle or JArrett. Aside from that maybe AJ, Joe, Lethal, Lashley, Morgan and Abyss would be interesting matches for Hogan. So if Hogan wrestles 6-10 times over the next year, then that's perfect, especially if he puts over even a couple of the younger guys (let him beat Foley, JJ, Angle and anyone else they need to keep him happy... Rhino is always good for that kind of thing).
See that's the only thing I'm worried about, can he even really go anymore? He barely could in his matches against HBK and Orton and those were 3 and 4 years ago.
Quote: Aside from that maybe AJ, Joe, Lethal, Lashley, Morgan and Abyss would be interesting matches for Hogan. So if Hogan wrestles 6-10 times over the next year, then that's perfect, especially if he puts over even a couple of the younger guys
Can you really see hogan putting over the younger guys, he may win a tag team title with one if they are lucky. Out of that list I think lashley is the only one that he may consider losing to, on the basis of his size and the fact he has been involved in a high profile wrestlemania match.
See that's the only thing I'm worried about, can he even really go anymore? He barely could in his matches against HBK and Orton and those were 3 and 4 years ago.
I dont think that matters, there are other people on the card who can do that. Hogan can wrestle 5 minute matches, punch, kick and do his usual comeback and the audience will lap it up.
Hogan and Lethal will reform the Mega-powers and destroy World Elite. That is probably the only good storyline that could come out of this. It is also going to depend how the impactzone reacts to Hogan. They are pretty smarky at times, so the ten to twenty minute ovations in 2002 probably won't occur. I am sure they will flood in crowd noise if it gets to bad, but it may come off looking bad via the internet live reports of the show. I still don't know about all of this. There are a ton of rumors and it seems even Hogan doesn't know how he is going to be used. I just can't see Old School working to long in TNA, but a toned down NWO Hogan could work.
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No way in hell is Hogan going to get any kind of negative reaction when he goes into the iMpact zone for the first time. The place will erupt. It will be nuts.
Quote: Hogan and Lethal will reform the Mega-powers and destroy World Elite. That is probably the only good storyline that could come out of this.
You really think hogan is coming to TNA for his first storyline to be in a feud with men he has probably never heard of and are pretty much unknown to the majority of wrestling fans. If Hogan is after maximum publicity that just isnt going to happen. Expect Hogsn to be involved with the likes of foley, nash, angle etc. I personlly expect to see hogan at wrestlemania a few months down the line when he has got what he wants from tna.
Quote: No way in hell is Hogan going to get any kind of negative reaction when he goes into the iMpact zone for the first time. The place will erupt. It will be nuts.
Yea that pop will be huge even the smarkiest fans will cheer him just knowing how big of a signing it is for TNA.
Quote: Aside from that maybe AJ, Joe, Lethal, Lashley, Morgan and Abyss would be interesting matches for Hogan. So if Hogan wrestles 6-10 times over the next year, then that's perfect, especially if he puts over even a couple of the younger guys
Can you really see hogan putting over the younger guys, he may win a tag team title with one if they are lucky. Out of that list I think lashley is the only one that he may consider losing to, on the basis of his size and the fact he has been involved in a high profile wrestlemania match.
I can see him putting over Styles before Lashley. Lashley is in more of an upper mid card spot and I don't think he's in TNA long-term.
When Hogan came to WCW in the 90's, he didn't do much for ratings. Bischoff admitted this in his book. Hogan popped a big buy for Bash at the Beach where he debuted and beat Flair, but then ratings went back to normal. It wasn't really until the NWO started that WCW started moving.
The same thing happened in TNA. Angle was their biggest sign before this. He got a good buy for the first Joe match and things went back to normal.
So don't think this will level the playing field. TNA is still a LONG way from being on WWE levels.
Despite Hogan being old and all the Bischoff WCW drama and the demise of WCW...remember that Bischoff and Hogan are still the people who almost buried WWE back in the 90's and came up with, arguably, the best sports entertainment story (NWO) of all time. They do have intelligence and the resources. Could they possibly get their shit together enough to pull another rabbit out of the hat? If I was WWE, I'd be a little worried, not alot worried, but at least keep an eye on things over at TNA.
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Quote: So don't think this will level the playing field. TNA is still a LONG way from being on WWE levels.
I don't think anyone thinks it will level the playing field.
Quote: Desmond Wolfe must be pissed right about now.
Why? He's instantly involved with one of the best performers of the last decade in a company that just made a huge deal with the greatest pro wrestler of all time.
Night one down and so far so good. Hogan was a big part of the show, but didn't overshadow anything. I was really impressed with how Tenay and Taz balanced hyping Hogan while not forgetting the rest of the show.
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The rating of the show with the Hogan press conference clips was a 1.3, though the size of the audience was about 200,000 people less than several shows they had earlier this year.
Quote: The rating of the show with the Hogan press conference clips was a 1.3, though the size of the audience was about 200,000 people less than several shows they had earlier this year.
Yeah, but the deal was only announced Tuesday, and Hogan was never scheduled to appear. Let's wait and see what happens long term with the ratings.
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Quote: Aside from that maybe AJ, Joe, Lethal, Lashley, Morgan and Abyss would be interesting matches for Hogan. So if Hogan wrestles 6-10 times over the next year, then that's perfect, especially if he puts over even a couple of the younger guys
Can you really see hogan putting over the younger guys, he may win a tag team title with one if they are lucky. Out of that list I think lashley is the only one that he may consider losing to, on the basis of his size and the fact he has been involved in a high profile wrestlemania match.
I can see him putting over Styles before Lashley. Lashley is in more of an upper mid card spot and I don't think he's in TNA long-term.
how many guys of aj size have you ever seen him put over. Lashley has had far more mainstream coverage than aj and hogan will undoubtedly consider him a bigger star.
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Kidman came out of that feud buried and never had a big single feud after. Hogan is very much about the big man feud. He will never agree to be made to look at the same level as someone much smaller. I doubt he would even put over a bigger name small guy like rey.
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- According to Dave Meltzer, one story going around is that Hulk Hogan won't make his debut in the iMPACT Zone until the first of 2010, when football season is over. TNA officials want to work on the build for Hogan's iMPACT debut in hopes of a huge rating.
Hahaha, what a joke!
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What are they hoping to accomplish? I think it is likely that anyone who gives a shit that Hogan is there already knows about it and already has their mind made up about watching.
I suppose there are people who aren't even aware that TNA exists, but I can't imagine this generating much more mainstream news than it already has.
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Maybe not mainstream buzz but wrestling world buzz. People who only watched WWE might be drawn to see what TNA is about now that they can sign a name as big as Hogan, even if he he 20 years past his prime.
Do they know, we play football in January or is that when that gay soccer things ends? I would have him at Turning Point and hype the hell out of it. PPV buys is where he will have an effect if there is one.
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- According to Dave Meltzer, one story going around is that Hulk Hogan won't make his debut in the iMPACT Zone until the first of 2010, when football season is over. TNA officials want to work on the build for Hogan's iMPACT debut in hopes of a huge rating.
Hahaha, what a joke!
Why? Makes perfect sense to me.
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- According to Dave Meltzer, one story going around is that Hulk Hogan won't make his debut in the iMPACT Zone until the first of 2010, when football season is over. TNA officials want to work on the build for Hogan's iMPACT debut in hopes of a huge rating.
Hahaha, what a joke!
Why? Makes perfect sense to me.
It may make sense, but why announce the signing this early then? By the time he actually appears at the Impact Zone two months will have passed since the initial buzz started. That's a lot of down time.
There's no real rush for Hogan to debut anyway though. Impact's ratings have been staying fairly constant over the past few months, so it's not like TNA need him to debut right this second.
I don't think it makes much difference whether he debuts in two weeks or two months, really.
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- According to Dave Meltzer, one story going around is that Hulk Hogan won't make his debut in the iMPACT Zone until the first of 2010, when football season is over. TNA officials want to work on the build for Hogan's iMPACT debut in hopes of a huge rating.
Hahaha, what a joke!
Why? Makes perfect sense to me.
It may make sense, but why announce the signing this early then?
Be honest, could TNA have kept a lid on this for two more months without someone finding out? You know the dirtsheets, even the smallest, most useless info is released as news if someone finds out.
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- According to Dave Meltzer, one story going around is that Hulk Hogan won't make his debut in the iMPACT Zone until the first of 2010, when football season is over. TNA officials want to work on the build for Hogan's iMPACT debut in hopes of a huge rating.
Hahaha, what a joke!
Why? Makes perfect sense to me.
It may make sense, but why announce the signing this early then?
Be honest, could TNA have kept a lid on this for two more months without someone finding out? You know the dirtsheets, even the smallest, most useless info is released as news if someone finds out.
Good point. Yeah the news probably would have broke all over the internet one way or another.
Hulk Hogan spoke to Minnesota's City Pages newspaper this week and made some interesting things to say about his relationship with Vince McMahon in the 1980s, how much power he'll have in TNA and what it meant to announce his partnership with TNA at Madison Square Garden. To read the whole interview, visit Citypages.com.
Hogan claims that Vince "didn't really understand the business" after buying the company from from his father, Vince McMahon, Sr. "I moved in next door to him in Connecticut and taught him all about lifting weights and riding motorcycles and partying like a mad man; and then I taught him about the wrestling business and making money," Hogan said. "And now I'm doing that again with TNA Wrestling."
Hogan also talked himself up as the savior for TNA. He said the company agreed that he could have a "Vince McMahon role" calling the shots for TNA. Hogan says he will be "unofficially" running the promotion and will have the same if not more influence than he had during his run in WCW.
"All I told these guys was that they should give me a chance. If they didn't like what I was doing they can tell me to take a hike, but let me have the chance to come in and take a shot at it," Hogan said. "Let the fans and the other wrestlers take a look and decide for themselves what they're in to and I'm confident that I will get this thing rockin'."
Hogan is already crediting himself with generating the most buzz for TNA in its history and explains the significance of announcing his partnership with TNA Wrestling at Madison Square Garden in New York City.
"The proof is already out there. In the course of a few days we've got more buzz going for TNA Wrestling then it's had in seven years. For example, no other wrestling organization had ever been able to get into Madison Square Garden in New York for like, 100 years, because Vince owns it and his family owned it before him. So I came in and was like, 'Watch this.; And we did a press conference at Madison Square Garden.
Can he be anymore delusional? I just can't wait until the day where he's back sucking Vince McMahon's dick again.
And he claims to have generated more buzz then ever for TNA but yet his segment was the lowest rated? They hyped it up the whole show and people turned away. Hogan is such a joke.
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He also said he wasn't contracted to wrestling, so he probably won't be booking himself champion. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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