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411's Countdown to WrestleMania 25: The 411mania of WrestleMania
Posted by Chris Lansdell on 03.26.2009



Greetings, humanity! We're well on the way with 411mania's Countdown to Wrestlemania, and today we're bringing you something completely different. Wrestlemania is a spectacle, wrestling's SuperBowl, a yearly event that WWE aficionados the world over have come to anticipate and plan for. The wrestlers themselves have spoken, both kayfabe and not, about "Wrestlemania moments", doing something at the big dance that defines their careers. As fans of WWE, we all have our own Wrestlemania moments and memories. We polled the staff and compiled the results, and now we offer to you The 411mania of WrestleMania! Note that this isn't a Top 5 list or anything, just our personal feelings about the Granddaddy of Them All.

Hey Meehan...BANNER!



The WrestleMania experience just isn't the same unless you're watching it as it happens. Which was the first Mania you saw live on PPV? If you're lucky enough to have been to one, which ones?

Aaron Hubbard: On TV? Wrestlemania XX.

The Original JP: In person? WrestleMania 23 in Detroit, MI. On PPV? WrestleMania 3.

MEEHAN: "Live" on television? WrestleMania III. "Live" in person? WrestleMania XX. But I think the fact that so many of us feel the need to distinguish between the two is a testament to just how impressive an in-road to creating new and lifelong fans that WrestleMania really has become. For many of us, seeing a WrestleMania on television as a child was all the invitation we needed to one day take part as a fan in live attendance at another show on down the road. Odds are good that anyone who's ever attended a show live could tell you exactly where they were when they caught their first WrestleMania on television.

Robert S Leighty Jr: I watched WrestleMania III live as a 5 year old boy in my grandma's living room. This year's WrestleMania will be the first I attend live.

Campbell and his crocs: WrestleMania III, my uncle ordered it on PPV and my dad and I went over to his house and watched it. My only real memory from the show (I was only 4) was Duggan knocking Sheik with the 2X4 and Hogan beating Andre.

Andy Clark: On TV, WrestleMania XV. I remember being so excited heading into the show, and arguing with all my friends that The Rock should win in the main event despite the fact I knew he didn't stand a chance. In person would be five years later at WrestleMania XX as my graduation present to myself.

Ryan Byers: Via the magic of pay per view, it was Wrestlemania X. I had been following wrestling for a few years at that point and was young enough that I didn't have my own income with which to order PPV. However, my parents finally caught on to the fact that something like this might make a good gift for their son. I have yet to see a 'Mania live, and I doubt I ever will. I like my wrestling but have a very hard time justifying spending several hundred (if not a thousand) dollars on one show in one shot, even if it is the biggest event of the year.

Bond. Julian Bond. Wrestlemania XIV with Stone Cold vs. Michaels (over friend's house), Wrestlemania 23 in Detroit (attended live in my hometown); anything before Wrestlemania XIV I just saw on VHS!!

Jeff Small-Khali: The first Wrestlemania I've seen live was Wrestlemania 23, fourteen years after the first Wrestlemania I ordered on PPV (Wrestlemania 9). Good thing I was only a kid at that time because the awfulness of WM9 would have turned me off had I actually paid for the show. Regardless, at Wrestlemania 23, I started a pack with a few of my buddies to try to attend Wrestlemaina each year (no matter the city) and this marks the third consecutive year.

Dustin James: On television, it was Wrestlemania 6....the long awaited battle between Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior brother! In person, I have only seen one Wrestlemania live and that was the greatness that was Wrestlemania 19 in Seattle.

Michael Bauer: Never saw one in person. First one I saw on TV was WrestleMania VII.

Dan "The Man" Torkel: Wrestlemania III - I was five and my parents got it for me on closed circuit. As a kid growing up in the 80's I was naturally a Hulkamaniac and went nuts when he slammed Andre. Steamboat and Savage also turned me into a workrate freak. I vividly remember watching WM IV in a high school auditorium on a big screen where they charged like $10 bucks to go in.

Jeffrey "The Vile One" Harris: The first one I ever attended live was Wrestlemania X-7 at the Astrodome in Houston, TX 4/1/01. The show was headlined by Austin vs. The Rock. This will be the second Wrestlemania I've attended live in this decade. Houston being my hometown makes it all the better.

Lansdell: I have yet to see one in person, and since a trip to Phoenix doesn't interest me I won't be going next year. First one I ordered on PPV was WrestleMania IX, since I didn't have PPV capability before then. Barbados was late to the party. And amazingly, I came back for more.

Everyone has a favourite WrestleMania, but the reasons for picking that Mania vary greatly. What's your favourite, and why?

Aaron Hubbard: Wrestlemania XX, for many reasons. The epic main event and it's aftermatch, Eddie vs. Angle, The Rock making fun of Hurricane and Rosey, Trish's heel turn, Taker's return, and YES, the Playboy Match (sue me I was 14).

The Original JP: WrestleMania 3 is still my favorite because no match can ever comparable to how big Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant was. Say what you will about workrate, but from an engaging point of view, there are very few matches that can suck me in just by the sames on the billboard alone.

MEEHAN: This honor would have to go to WrestleMania 24, simply because I had the thrill of seeing the show live in Orlando with my Dad and my brother. For the longest time I would have said "WrestleMania XX" (simply because it was my first time in live attendance at a PPV, and there really is nothing like seeing a WrestleMania at the event itself), but a number of outside circumstances have pretty much relegated that show to a far distant second (if that).

Robert S Leighty Jr: WrestleMania X-7 gets my vote as greatest WrestleMania ever, but WM III will always remain my favorite. It was the first one I watched live, and it feature my favorite match ever. It also took place in the most visually impressive setting I've ever seen for a wrestling show, and it featured the biggest match in the history of the business.

Campbell and his crocs: WrestleMania VIII. I don't know if it was just the time period, my age at the time (9) or something else, but it just carried this great aura about it to me. Having to wait five whole days to see the tape of it seemed like eternity.

Andy Clark: WrestleMania X-Seven without a doubt. WrestleManias XX and 22 hold a special place in my heart because I was there live, but you can't hold a candle to X-Seven. It's probably been overhyped to the point of annoyance by now, but for my money this is the best wrestling show ever. Period.

Ryan Byers: I admit that some years have had better in-ring action overall and some have presented better storylines overall, but, for sheer nostalgia purposes, I still find myself going back to Wrestlemania X every time that I am asked this question.

Bond. Julian Bond. It has to be a tie between Wrestlemania XIX (19) and Wrestlemania 23. I loved WM 19 because of the awesome card which included the epic-at-the time Angle/Lesnar main event and one of my favorite matches of all time in Michaels/Jericho…also because I watched it in my friend's cold ghetto-fied basement. And Wrestlemania 23 wasn't one of my favorite cards, but instead was one of the best simply because it was the first live Wrestlemania event I've ever attended in my life and it truly does not compare at all to just watching it on TV. You simply had to be there to fully experience it.

Jeff Small-Khali: Who spells "favourite" with a "u"? Really? Anyway, my favorite Wrestlemania would have to be Wrestlemania 17. While I have liked a majority of them, Wrestlemania 17 is the only one I've watched more than three times on video. If that's not longevity, I do not know what is. Editor's note: Khali spells it with a u. They speak proper English in India.

Dustin James: The "right" answer would of course be Wrestlemania 17, but not here! My favorite Wrestlemania is Wrestlemania 19, mainly due to the fact that I was there live and had a blasty blast. The trip is forever sketched into my head and that's not a bad thing at all.

Michael Bauer: WrestleMania XX. I was up in college, watching with a bunch of the crew and just hearing us explode for Chris Benoit's Title win was more than enough.

Dan "The Man" Torkel: It was Wrestlemania XX because I was the biggest Benoit mark, and almost cried when he won, but history has led to me rethinking this. Now, I'd probably say WM X because of Owen/Bret, and the Ladder match.

Jeffrey "The Vile One" Harris: I mean while I think there are other great Wrestlemanias, at the time I thought Wrestlemania XX was the best of all time. It really just had that epic, big feel and all the matches seemed to generally end the right way, plus a ton of great, pure wrestling matches on the card. There was a little bit of everything. I was always severely entertained by the crowd's reaction to Lesnar/Goldberg, even though the match itself was pretty dull and disappointing. Despite all that's happened, still hard to argue a better more "on" and perfect WWE event than this one.

Lansdell: This was a tough one, because nostalgia makes a lot of the older Manias feel better than they were, especially the Hogan-led ones where a young Lansdell marked out for every Hulk Up. However, I think it's a close-run thing between 24 (Punk's win, Taker-Edge and of course Michaels-Flair being the best parts) and 2000 (Hardcore Battle Royal, Angle-Benoit-Jericho, and the ladder match).

At the other end of the spectrum is the Mania you wish you hadn't seen, the one that could have been a 3-hour Raw. What was your least favourite Mania?

Aaron Hubbard: Wrestlemania IV, because it's so LONG, and there's almost nothing of quality there.

The Original JP: I know I'm going to get some hater-ade for this one, but I truly did not enjoy WrestleMania 14. Not only did I find the show slow and hard to watch, but the whole thing left a terrible taste in my mouth. A DQ ending and a title return at WrestleMania? Seriously? Randomly thrown together tag teams taking up a spot on the card, a workrate match with light heavyweights in a division they were set to abort before they began, and a mixed tag comedy match do not entertain me. I know a lot of people love this PPV because it is the turning point for the WWE, especially with Austin defeating Michaels for the title with Mike Tyson as the referee, but even Tyson's swerve really didn't excite me. I guess it doesn't help that I am a huge WCW mark and this PPV is the defining moment of the Attitude Era, but the few timse I've watched this show it has never lived up to the hype.

MEEHAN: That'd be WrestleMania XI. Top to bottom, I'd argue that this was probably one of the weakest WrestleMania cards in history. Add in the fact that there were only like seven matches on the entire card (and two of them barely lasted upwards of five minutes apiece), and this show was pretty much a stinker. Say what you will about WrestleMania IX, but at least that broadcast had a bit of over-the-top pageantry going for it. WrestleMania XI? Just Lawrence Taylor.

Robert S Leighty Jr: As a kid I hated WrestleMania VI because Hulk Hogan lost to the Ultimate Warrior. I was 8 years old and when Warrior won, I run from my friends house to my house, dove under my covers, and cried myself to sleep. Years later I came to appreciate the fact that Hogan and Warrior tore the house down. Today, I would give the honor of least favorite to WrestleMania XI. I think it may be the only Mania in the DVD anthology set I bought a few years back that I have yet to watch.

Campbell and his crocs: WrestleMania IX. The toga theme was stupid and none of the matches were especially thrilling to me.

Andy Clark: I'll limit this to ones I witnessed as they happened and not ones I've gone back and watched. I'd have to go with WrestleMania X8. While Rock-Hogan and Taker-Flair should be enough for it not to rest at the bottom of my list, the all around poor booking both leading into the show and on the show itself just really turns me off of this show. Plus I had to deal with a bunch of backstabbing fans turning on my boy The Rock for the second straight WrestleMania. WrestleMania 2000 would probably be next on the list, but I mark for the Hardcore Battle Royal so it's safe.

Ryan Byers: It's the cliched answer, but I still have to give it in order to answer honestly: Wrestlemania IX. It would be a bad pay per view regardless of the circumstances under which it was held, and the fact that it had such a prestigious name tacked on to it only made matters worse.

Bond. Julian Bond.Easily to me hands down, Wrestlemania XV in 99'. Besides the barely redeeming factor in the main event of Stone Cold vs. The Rock, the whole card was an absolute mess (especially the Boss Man/Taker cage match). So bad that I invited half a dozen friends over my house to watch in high school and we all ended up playing 007 GoldenEye (James Bond) on my Nintendo 64 most of the time cause it was truly lame and boring for the most part (minus the main event, Pete Rose, and the whole DX double-betrayal storline). Most disappointing PPV EVER.

Jeff Small-Khali: Wrestlemania 18. Coming off of a great show the previous year, I was hoping for the best with WM18. However, between a meaningless undercard and an underwhelming main event, the show was pretty bad. Granted both Flair/Taker and Rock/Hogan were good matches but not enough to make up for this turd.

Dustin James: Yes, I'm the guy who still hates on Wrestlemania 9. This show was just horrendous from top to bottom. Jim Ross wearing a toga? The Giant Gonzalez? Hulk Hogan winning the title AGAIN? Yep, sounds pretty Wrestlecraptacular.

Michael Bauer: Wrestlemania XV. Horrible show, worst Hell in a Cell ever.

Lansdell: I'm expecting this will be a split between 9 and 11, but for me it's 2. There is not a single match on this mess of a card (from three venues!) that I ever want to see again.

Dan "The Man" Torkel: WM 15 - Others were worse, but the Russo-feeling of this show with its bizarre title matches and heel/face turns made me very annoyed.

Jeffrey "The Vile One" Harris: Wrestlemania IV. I've never watched this show the whole way through. I think its important simply because it did sort of lay the groundwork for an epic world title feud between Hogan and Savage, even though Hogan sort of stole the spotlight on Savage's big moment. As big of an icon as Hogan is, people seem to forget how hated Hogan generally was in the late 90's, early 00's. IV should've been Savage's time to have the big moment, and Hogan messed it up. Just as he would screw Sting over years later.

Despite cards that appear lacklustre on the face of it, WrestleMania normally manages to deliver at least one classic match. What are you looking forward to the most this year?

Aaron Hubbard: Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker by a long shot, it will probably be a classic.

The Original JP: Calling up JT during one of the most pivotal, amazing, and historic moments and letting him know that he is a complete macaroon for giving up his ticket.

MEEHAN: It's probably cliche to say "The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels," but I'm going to go ahead and pick that one anyhow. Wrestling fans have waited the better part of a decade to see HBK go one-on-one with The Dead Man, and longtime fans (and Bret Hart sympathizers) will recall that the real-life bad blood between these two men goes back more than a dozen years (or so the story goes). Shawn's always been my favorite wrestler, but as we near what could well be the twilight of the man's career, it seems kind of fitting to see "Mr. WrestleMania" be called once and for all to account for his past sins at the hands of The Phenom on The Grandest Stage of Them All.

Robert S Leighty Jr: Making the long trip to Houston and being there live for the entire weekend. If I was just watching at home it would be Taker vs Michaels and Jericho vs Austin (should it happen), but since I will be there in Houston, I am just looking forward to the plane landing safely in Houston on April 3rd, 2009.

Campbell and his crocs: Right now, Money In The Bank, and I want to see if WWE has the grapefruits to put Michaels over 'Taker.

Andy Clark: Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker is the easy answer. I'm counting on that match to really make or break the show because there isn't a lot to get excited about right now. However I think I'll go in a different direction from my colleagues. I'm most excited about the ECW Title Match. I'm assuming it is Jack Swagger vs. Evan Bourne which if that is the case should be pretty awesome. Even if its not I'm still interested to see what exactly they do put on.

Ryan Byers: It has to be the Undertaker/Shawn Michaels match. Everything else feels like we've seen it too many times before for it to be truly special . . . and that is especially true of the two championship matches. At least Michaels and UT haven't had a high profile singles bout against each other for over ten years now.

Bond. Julian Bond. The card this year is definitely one of the most promising ones I've seen in a good while, particularly for a Wrestlemania. The two World Title bouts both look great with the new spin on old rivalries. Money In The Bank has some interesting participants this year and actually doesn't have a clear-cut favorite to win this time around. But my vote is for, what I guess, the most anticipated match on the card in the Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels face-off. Both of them are my favorite grapplers of all time and even though I've seen them fight before in the past, they both stepped their game to different levels in the last few years and should easily steal the show.

Jeff Small-Khali: Who will win Vickie Guerrero's heart? That or witnessing the Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker match. Tough call.

Dustin James: Well, it WAS the Chris Jericho vs. WWE legend match....before they actually revealed Jericho's opponent. Now? I'm probably looking forward to the "Money in the Bank" match the most. It seems the MitB match is usually a highlight of any Wrestlemania. Plus it has Shelton Benjamin in the match and he is STILL greatness!

Michael Bauer: Seeing Shawn Michaels end the Undertaker's winning streak. At least, I hope so.

Dan "The Man" Torkel: Shawn and Taker having a match for the ages.

Jeffrey "The Vile One" Harris: Orton vs. HHH. At this point I don't think Orton has a chance in hell of winning. But ever since Orton's program with Cena, he's consistently been one of my most favorite workers in the WWE. And since returning in late 2008 from his injury, I feel he's gotten only better. He's entered a whole other level above and beyond what he's ever reached before. Now, Orton has finally become that main event star he was being groomed as in 2005 but didn't quite reach.

Lansdell: Two matches I really want to see: Hardy-Hardy and the tag title match. Both have enormous potential to be the sleeper match of the night, especially with the Extreme Rules stipulation in the Hardys match. The Colons and Mizorrison have been putting on good matches over the past few weeks, and the chance to go all out at Mania should put the icing on that cake.

What's your first memory of WrestleMania?

Aaron Hubbard: Earliest memory would be my brother buying one of those old Hulkamania videos, and watching Andre vs. Hogan, and seeing the slam when I was about 4. THAT was insane.

The Original JP: I remember WrestleMania 1 quite well. My dad was a big wrestling fan, so it watching that show on tape was one of the nice things we got to do together. In particular, The $15,000 body slam challenge. That one just sticks in my head!

MEEHAN: Hulk Hogan body slamming Andre The Giant at WrestleMania III, without a doubt. I was barely four years old at the time, but I'm pretty sure it was that exact moment when I knew I'd been hooked as a fan for life.

Robert S Leighty Jr: I watched WrestleMania III in my grandma's house as a 5 year old boy, and I became the 1st person ever allowed to eat in her living room. I watced the entire show waiting for Hogan vs Andre, and when the match started I ran out of the room and hid in the kitchen because I was afraid what would happen to my hero, Hulk Hogan. I remember sitting at the kitchen table and using the spaghetti noodle box as a cast and pretending I was "Cowboy" Boy Orton. My step-dad came in and told me that Hulk Hogan had won the match, so I busted ass back into the living room and caught the replay of Hogan slamming Andre and getting the pin off the big leg.

Campbell and his crocs: WrestleMania II actually. My family got their first VCR in '86 and used to rent movies frequently, and the video store was well stocked in Coliseum Videos, and I could get a wrestling video so long as I behaved. And I picked that one quite a bit for some reason.

Andy Clark: I stated before that WrestleMania XV was my first WrestleMania. At the time I wasn't sure I was going to be able to see it, but I just hoped that my parents would give in and order the show despite them not being overly enthused with me liking wrestling (which they did). At the time we had a PPV preview station that ran commercials for all the upcoming events and I remember watching the preview station all night for the WrestleMania commercial, mostly consisting of highlights from the previous year's show. "Pete Rose! Pete Rose! Pete Rose just got tombstoned!"

Ryan Byers:Owen Hart pinning Bret Hart in the opening match of Wrestlemania X. I had a horrible sense of fashion as a child and became a big Owen Hart fan during the days of High Energy because I thought those massive, neon pants RULED. If that didn't make me a weird enough kid, I also had this habit of picking favorite wrestlers who were faces and not turning on them when they became heels. Thus, I was still solidly in Owen's corner when his feud with Bret came around, and I was ecstatic to see him pin his brother, as even then I was able to recognize it as being the biggest win of his WWF career to that point.

Bond. Julian Bond. My earliest memory of watching Mania is with Hogan vs. Savage at Wrestlemania V. My uncle (who's mentally handicapped) had lived at a nursing home when I was a kid and him and his friends were the biggest wrestling fans I've ever seen. So I just remember them watching a tape of Wrestlemania V and me witness the "Battle of the Mega Powers", which seemed surreal to me at the time…and pretty hilarious with the whole "You stole my girl Elizabeth!!!" storyline.

Jeff Small-Khali: How perverted is this - the thonged models that accompanied the Narcissist Lex Luger at Wrestlemania 9. As a eight year old kid, I loved it. In fact, I still love it to this day. Editor's note: Hands up everyone who's surprised.

Dustin James: Warrior vs. Hogan. It was THE match back in 1990. It was a great way to build a feud between two top babyfaces. The fact that the WWE was able to get the world excited about two babyfaces facing each other back in the days where kayfabe ran rampant still blows my mind.

Michael Bauer: WrestleMania VI. I started watching wrestling just because of Warrior vs. Hogan.

Dan "The Man" Torkel: Andre getting slammed by Hogan. That's the most vivid early memory, but honestly everything from that show, starting with the Can-Ams beating Muraco and Orton. Editor's note: Everyone who thought that was Randy Orton and had to do a double-take, go to the back of the class.

Jeffrey "The Vile One" Harris: I remember Ultimate Warrior/Rick Rude in 1989 at 5. I remember being pretty ticked off about Rude winning because of Heenan.

Lansdell: Despite not having PPV capability, I used to rent all the shows from the bootleg video store down the road from my mother's office. I remember going to the store the day after Mania 5 and asking about it, but they didn't have it copied yet. I went back 4 times that day and three the next before finally getting it. "The tape came in for ye, laddie!" said the lady in the store, who had a Scottish accent. She thought it was the cutest thing ever. My mother just sighed and pulled out her wallet. I watched the event 4 times that day. I know I'd seen others before, but this one memory is the first vivid one I have.

We've asked about your favourite WrestleMania, but what's your favourite Mania match? Will it come from your favourite show?

Aaron Hubbard: Batista vs. Undertaker, from Wrestlemania 23. The reason is that in the group of family and friends, we had one guy who was POSITIVE that Batista was going to win. The rest of us loudly disagreed, and because of this, we hung on EVERY move. There are better matches, but the atmosphere at my house for this was unlike anything else.

The Original JP: From a memory perspective, it is going to be Hogan/Andrea at WrestleMania 3 for all the reasons I stated above. No match has ever felt as big and as important before or since in my mind. From a workrate/spot-fest perspective, though, I'm going to go with Money in the Bank at WrestleMania 24 just because of things Shelton Benjamin and John Morrison were able to pull off in that match.

MEEHAN: Shawn Michaels versus Ric Flair (Career Threatening Match, WM 24), bar none. While I wasn't one of "those fans" who shed a tear for The Nature Boy at last year's big show, I do remember leaving the Citrus Bowl that night with the unmistakable impression that I had actually been a witness to something much greater than any one particular wrestling match or pay-per-view. "I'm sorry. I love you." WHAM! It was surreal, it was sad, and it was awesome.

Robert S Leighty Jr: WrestleMania III: IC Title: Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat. This is my favorite Mania match of all time, and my favorite match ever.

Campbell and his crocs: My favorite is actually Trish Stratus vs. Mickie James. The only time that I can recall that the Women's Division put out a kick ass match.

Andy Clark: The Rock vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin at WrestleMania X-Seven. Why? Check this bad boy out for why. Great match, great atmosphere, great storytelling. My favorite match period, WrestleMania or no.

Ryan Byers:It's the Bret Hart-Shawn Michaels Iron Man match from Wrestlemania XII. As with the "Favorite Wrestlemania" question, this is a situation in which I can go back and watch other classic 'Mania matches and recognize them as being better matches from a purely technical standpoint. However, the combination of technical merit and nostalgia shoots Hart/Michaels to the top. The bout came at the peak of my childhood wrestling fandom, and I watched it before I had a ton of videotape access with which to catch up on wrestling's history. As a result, it was the best match that I had seen at the time and the only time that I had seen two men wrestle for an hour, which means that it will always hold a special place in my memories.

Bond. Julian Bond.Easily my favorite is the 2003 bout between Chris Jericho and Shawn Michaels, way before their infamous feud this past year. In my years of growing up watching, I honestly never had a "dream match" that I was hoping to happen one day. But when I saw that two of my favorite wrestlers of all time were finally going to get in the ring with one another, the idea of it blew my mind. It had a good storyline (despite not even really touching the one done much better last year), nice build-up and a picture-perfect match to boot.

Jeff Small-Khali: The triple threat main event at Wrestlemania XX. Normally, there's little doubt to the winner of most main events at Wrestlemania due to the Vince wanting to send the viewers home happy. Leading up to WMXX, I wanted to believe that Chris Benoit would win the World Championship. However, I did not believe it until Triple H tapped out.

Dustin James: I have to go with the three-way title fight between HHH, HBK and Chris Benoit at Wrestlemania XX. I remember watching that match and for some reason I was cheering HARD for Benoit. Seriously, it was like watching my favorite NFL or NBA team compete for the championship. I was glad to see Benoit win especially by making HHH tap! Great moment.

Michael Bauer: I have to go with Benoit vs. HHH vs. Michaels from WrestleMania XX. There are other great matches, no question about it. But just going back to why I loved WrestleMania XX, this was the moment that made it my favorite ever seen.

Dan "The Man" Torkel: Benoit's title win was it for awhile, but after the murders I'll resort back to previous fave: Austin vs. Bret at WM XIII because it was the match that changed the company and the industry forever, making Austin a mega-star and Vince millions. Also, the bladejob and just flat out awesomeness of it.

Jeffrey "The Vile One" Harris: Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart. This was like the most perfect, 20 minute wrestling clinic match ever. Owen had a great heel character going on, and the feud with Bret was perfect. Seeing it come to the Mania match and Owen beating Bret clean was amazing. And what came afterward was even better. Jeff vs. Matt is definitely evocative of this match right now, and I hope they can have something at least half as good.

Lansdell: I have never had an easy time answering this question, because there's Benoit-Angle-Jericho, Benoit-Angle, Angle-Michaels and Michaels-Jericho. See a common thread there? I guess if I had to pick one it would be Benoit-Angle-Jericho.

Like the SuperBowl, WrestleMania is an event that goes beyond regular fans and brings in casual viewers. Each group of viewers will tend to have traditions for the event. What's yours?

Aaron Hubbard: Usually, me and my older brothers and a couple of friends will get together and watch the show. Pizzas, chips, and soda are a must, but other than that, no real traditions.

The Original JP: Well, considering this is my third year in a row and I'm already in for next year in Arizona, my tradition is going! And I seem to go with the 411mania crew. So watch for your favorite D-list internet celebrities at this year's and every year's festivities!

MEEHAN: As a kid, we used to invite other kids and their dads over to watch the PPVs as one big group. But as we've all grown older and moved away from home, it's become something of a trick to "get the band back together" for a yearly viewing party. Regardless, I still enjoy keeping at least *some* of the tradition from my childhood whenever possible. As such, I've had the opportunity to see two separate WrestleMania shows (with my family) in person -- once in Madison Square Garden (WM 20), and once again last year in Orlando (WM 24). My father is a fellow lifelong wrestling fan, and I love watching the show with him (or calling him immediately afterwards) whenever I have the chance.

Robert S Leighty Jr: For the most part I just watch it at home. Some years I will have some friends come over, but generally it's just me, and I have no problem with that. The only tradition is that I'll start watching the previous Manias the week before the current Mania.

Campbell and his crocs: We have my sister-in-law and my buddies over, and watch the show with Pizza, Wings, and Soda.

Andy Clark: Provided I'm not at the show with my Dad I normally just chill at home, again usually with my Dad. My Mom or girflriend might join us, usually interested in the main event and Money in the Bank Match respectively. I actually tend to prefer watching it alone because the chatter of people not as interested in the show as I am can be highly annoying, particularly for WrestleMania.

Ryan Byers:To be frank, I do not order Wrestlemania most years. Again, I have to point out that I am cheap. Quite cheap. I will generally wait to hear reviews of the show and then see how I feel about borrowing a tape from somebody, ordering the replay, or buying/renting the DVD. On top of that, none of the people who I hang out with in my real, non internet life a wrestling fans. As a result, when I do order the show, it's usually me sitting on my couch alone with a boatload of Chinese food. It's a pretty pathetic looking scene, actually. Editor's note: That's OK Byers, we're all a little pathetic here.

Bond. Julian Bond.I honestly don't have just ONE tradition as to who I hang out with or where I'm at for watching the big event. But the constant thing I make sure to do is to have a good time watching it with some good food (pizza, chips, buffalo wild wings, everything I usually get for Super Bowl plus 1) and good people (family, friends, or even total strangers at a bar).

Jeff Small-Khali: As a kid/teen, I would get together a group of friends and watch the show. Now, I attend the show live, bitches!

Dustin James:I'm a pretty simple Wrestlemania viewer. I honestly don't have any friends who like wrestling outside of the Internet and 411, so when I view a WWE PPV I'm usually sitting in the comfort of my own home....with my blinds shut of course. I don't want my neighbors to know I just paid $50 to watch a WWE event.

Michael Bauer: There is no rhyme or reason to anything that I do. In college, we all gathered at Nick's Place and ate all the pizza we wanted. Nowadays, it depends if the guys want to order it or not.

Dan "The Man" Torkel: Get together with friends. One of us calls house, we chip in $10 bucks each order some pizza, drink some beer and enjoy. Then we spend 4 hours bitching and complaining and screaming "OH"

Jeffrey "The Vile One" Harris: The past few years, my buddies and I would go and watch it at Wings 'N More at this nice shopping center in Houston, TX. Last year it worked out for me to go home and do that. This year, we are all attending the event live at Reliant.

Lansdell: It's always here, it's always accompanied by nachos, wings and mozza sticks, and there are always at least 5 people who can't show up. Never the same people each year though. This year we even started a "Who won't show" pool.

WrestleMania has always been about more than just the matches. Celebrities, the culmination of huge angles, the trotting-out of the year's Hall of Fame class in recent years...what's your favourite non-match memory of WrestleMania?

Aaron Hubbard: Savage & Liz reuniting. Editor's note: A man of few words...

The Original JP: Although this may not count since it's not a skit or special attraction, but nothing compared to the almost deeply religious feeling I got from being in a building full 80,000 wrestling fans all clambering, cheering, and screaming for the same thing. It's not a WrestleMania moment, but it is non-match thing that has a deep place in my heart. I'm not a spiritual guy and I don't find solace in large groups of people all doing the same thing. But for that moment I understood how people can get swept away in the emotion and experience of the crowd, and I was perfectly fine going along for the ride. Editor's Note: It counts, JP. And we're all jealous.

MEEHAN: The Counting Crows once sang that "The price of a memory is the memory of the sorrow it brings." For reasons completely unrelated to in-the-ring activities, I can't help but find myself agreeing with that statement in earnest, as a wide array of events completely unrelated to on-show-happenings have managed to cast a rather substantial pall on some of my fondest WrestleMania memories of yesteryear. For this reason, I guess it's fitting that my single fondest WrestleMania memory would also happen to be my first -- Hulk Hogan bodyslamming Andre the Giant at WrestleMania III. In a childhood of simpler times where onscreen titans were larger-than-life superheroes born to life, I guess Hogan vs. Andre has always served as a thrilling benchmark of childlike nostalgia and "anything can happen" escapism.

Robert S Leighty Jr: My favorite WrestleMania memory and my favorite non match memory is wrestling history is the Randy Savage/Liz reunion at WrestleMania VII. Nothing can ever top that memory, and it still brings a huge smile to my face nearly twenty years later.

Campbell and his crocs: I always got a kick of Steve Allen singing in the shower with the Bolshevicks at WM6.

Andy Clark: Not sure if this counts because it is match related, but playing ringleader for the small amount of John Cena fans at WrestleMania 22. Fighting that battle was so much fun and being able to gloat over all the disappointed haters was absolutely priceless. Running into Dragon Gate's Blood Generation and Do Fixer stables in the hallway after the show was pretty cool too.

Ryan Byers: There may be a bit of a recency bias at play here, but my immediate reaction to this question is the post-match interaction between Shawn Michaels and Ric Flair after Flair's retirement on last year's show. When I first saw him as a kid, Flair immediately became a god in my eyes, and I had followed his career intently virtually every day since. As a result, I do not know what in wrestling could have been more dramatic than the moment that all came to an end.

Bond. Julian Bond. It was definitely Mr. McMahon getting his head shaved bald in Detroit at Wrestlemania 23. I knew the outcome of the match and knew that Vince was going to get scalped, but actually seeing it live in person with 80,000 screaming fans (just thinking about the amount makes me dizzy) was insane. It was even funnier seeing Stone Cold give a stunner to Donald Trump of all people right after the festivities. Good times, great memories.

Jeff Small-Khali: I'd say witnessing Ric Flair's retirement match. Here's hoping I can still say this in five years.

Dustin James:Hulk Hogan doing the clean J-O-B to the Ultimate Warrior at Wrestlemania 6. Oh wait, it says "non-match". Does watching Benoit and Guerrero close out Wrestlemania XX as champions count? If so, then that's it right there.

Michael Bauer: I'll answer this two ways. My favorite from an overall perspective is Benoit and Eddie embracing as champions at WrestleMania XX. My favorite from a pure humor perspective happened right before Booker T faced Boogeyman as he and Sharmell walked down the famed "Hall of Freaks".

Dan "The Man" Torkel: Savage and Liz reuniting after his loss to Warrior. On a personal level, while at a friend's to watch WM 21, the ppv did not order right away and we missed half the opener (Rey/Eddie). My buddy called the cable company threatening to sue because he said he was ordering it for his son's birthday party. The cable company not only got us the event but refunded our money. My friend, in case you were wondering, is single and child-less.

Jeffrey "The Vile One" Harris:Probably the whole aftermath of Warrior vs. Savage at Wrestlemania VII.

Lansdell: I don't want to go with pure humour, so I'll leave out the gang dance in the back with Slaughter, IRS, Fink, the ladies, Cryme Time...I guess it would have to be listening to the intros and commentary for the Gimmick Battle Royal (partly due to nostalgia and partly due to "I wish Monsoon was here") coming a close second to Guerrero and Benoit. Watching Eddie's genuine tears of joy as they embraced in a shower of ticker tape brought tears to the eyes.

Well that's it folks. I hope you enjoyed this insight into what WrestleMania means to 411mania. The show is 10 days away and we have every one of those days covered with WrestleMania-themed columns. Keep it locked right here. Stay Cool, Rock Hard.

Lansdellicious – Out.


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JP, I'd just like to tell you that I hate you. I hate you a lot. Frickin 3 Wrestlemania's in a row...

Posted By: Brendan (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 12:16 AM

 
 
This is a pretty cool article so I'm gonna start the trend on the comment board

First live WM on PPV and live:
My first WM I saw on PPV was XI, I'm from Hartford and I really wanted to go to see HBK Diesel and Bret but my parents made it up to me and my brothers and ordered the PPV. My first live WM was 23 it's now a tradition I plan on keeping until I get on the card.

Favorite WM: My favorite is also the best: X-Seven. Austin-Rock build up alone did it for me. The rest of the card was stacked and delivered as well what a great show!

Least-favorite WM: It has to be WM 2000. I was looking forward to the triple threat match for the IC and Euro titles and it delivered. But like everyone else I couldn't wait for the 4-way and the shock of Triple H walking out champ left a sour taste in my mouth, still a good show as they all are but that fairy tale ending wasn't there.

Looking forward to this year: HBK-Taker beats out HHH-Orton because...mock my word HBK-Taker will take the top spot as the greatest WM match of all time when they're done! These guys are like fine wine, they get better with age.

First WM memory: I've been a fan my whole life...longer than I can remember but the first thing I can say I remember is WM IX. I remember hearing all about "the worlds largest outdoor toga party" and Hulk Hogan coming back. And my hero Bret squaring off against Yoko.

Favorite WM match: HBK-Bret Iron Man match WM XII. My 2 all time favorite mixing it up. As I've gotten older I've grown to appreciate it more. I don't care how long it went I could watch it over and over.

WM tradition: Before I started going live @ 23 my brothers would order it and we'd have our friends come over and get food and drinks and decorated the room by wearing our shirts and draping extra t's over furniture and getting all of our gear and trickin' out the TV room and we'd bring out action figures in and decorate the room with them and eventually reenact the matches with them.

Non-match WM moment: It's a tie....Wrestlemania XX's post match embrace with Eddie and Benoit left a lump in my throat and touched me big time as I am a huge Benoit fan regardless of what happened 3 years later. It touched me cuz these guys were so close and I loved them in WCW and loved them coming to WWE I got behind them even more it was awesome. The other is Ric Flair's retirement. I was there live and the weekend was all about him, I saw him get inducted in the HOF the night before and saw him ride off into the sunset. I'm so proud to be part of that. On a personal note MY WM moment was at 23, the first one I saw live. When I finally got in and saw the whole spectacle as 80,000 were piling in and seeing the spectacle of WM right before my eyes I couldn't help but shed a tear that I finally made it to WM


Posted By: Justin (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 12:27 AM

 
 
Here are my thoughts :

First live WM on PPV and live:
WRESTLEMANIA 21 Was the first one I saw LIVE .
Good show .
Money In the bank was awesome that year , And made me resolve to watch every year .


Favorite WM:
WM 24 , Excellent show , WM 17 Was also pretty good .

Least-favorite WM: WM 11 .

Looking forward to this year: HBK-Taker.
Without A Doubt ., PLEASE end the streak .

First WM memory:
AT WM Goes hollywood , They did these movie commercials , with wrestlers playing famous movie characters , that really made me want to watch WM .

Favorite WM match: TOP 5 , loved These matches , ....
.. Edge v Mick Foley ..
.. HBK - Bret Iron Man match WM XII..
..MITB - The first one which Edge won ..
.. WM 17 TLC Match - won by Edge / Christian ..
&
..HBK - Vince Mc Mahon , expected it to suck , ended up being match of the night ...

WM tradition: Watch at home , alone or with family and friends .
Also , chips and other assorted food products .
And I Make a predictions list every year , just for fun .

Non-match WM moment:
Edge on how he would end the streak - WM 24 - AWESOME PROMO , i knew he would lose , but that promo was brilliant .

Booker T - HALL OF FREAKS .

WM 22 - Cena makes HHH tap , I HATED the Chicago crowd for booing Cena , so I was VERY happy that he won , and most of the crowd had to shut up .

HBK Winning over Hart . and celebrating , WM 12 , Been Shawn's fan my entire life - personally very happy moment for me .
" The boyhood dream has come true . "


So many great memories , hopefully this year too there will be many classic moments .


Posted By: Emily (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 01:35 AM

 
 
"Who spells "favourite" with a "u"?"

People from the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland.

Y'know, the part of the world where the language ENGLISH was innovated.


Posted By: Odin (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 04:33 AM

 
 
First live WM on PPV and live:
Have not been live, yet. I rented WM IV non stop, I got WMV via mail order, went to my grandparents to watch WMVI because they had it on PPV and we did not, went to SummerSlam '90 because it was in Philly!!!!~~!! ( i lived in Florida for WM15) WMVII was the first PPV I saw live from home! (it sucked)

Favorite WM: WMIV it got me into wrestling, yeah it sucked but it brought me in.

Least-favorite WM: WM13 I gained appreciation for just how great Austin/Hart was, but I really hated that PPV. The only other match I even thought was passable at the time was NOD/LOD & Ahmed, and that BLEW.

Looking forward to this year: MitB, I'm rooting for Punk, again. But MVP would be fine too. I've seen the rest before, including HBK/Taker I am still pissed Bret wasn't even on that PPV!

First WM memory: WMIV, I watched that tape a million times. I gave my Mom a Miss Elizabeth card for Valentines Day a (almost) year later when I was five. She said she remembered Elizabeth wore four different dresses in the tape. I remembered Savage's dominance. I am still looking for my Miss Elizabeth!

Favorite WM match: Hart-Piper. Yeah I'm different from most. But I was a huge Bret mark and this was his coming out party. WMIX should have been Hart taking the tourch from Hogan, but this is the closest we got.

WM tradition: Use to be watching with my brothers. We stopped seven years ago. Last year was the first I watched since (with friends, my brothers weren't their). After "I'm sorry, I love you" I got them to watch and they loved (that match) it. This year we're getting the band back together and we're reminiscing over SummerSlam 90, King of the Ring 95 (YEAH WE WERE THERE BITCH), and RoyalRumble 04. We saw them all live and it will be great to get it back together, Rumble 04 wasn't as good as KOTR 95 b/c we weren't as into it.

Non-match WM moment: Miss Elizabeth running to Randy Savage after the Warrior retired him at WMVII. Read my early memories and you'll understand.


Posted By: Miss Elizabeth Mark! (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 04:36 AM

 
 
"Jeff Small-Khali: Who spells "favourite" with a "u"?"

Err, the people who came up with the language your typing in?

Anyway I'll play too.

"The WrestleMania experience just isn't the same unless you're watching it as it happens. Which was the first Mania you saw live on PPV? If you're lucky enough to have been to one, which ones?"

Never seen one live, but the first I ever saw was X-7. Completely blew me away and made me a life time fan.

"Everyone has a favourite WrestleMania, but the reasons for picking that Mania vary greatly. What's your favourite, and why?"

Well in addition to being the first Wrestlemania I saw X-7 is still the best imo. Every match was entertaining and I'd say 5 are above or around ****

"Everyone has a favourite WrestleMania, but the reasons for picking that Mania vary greatly. What's your favourite, and why?"

Wrestlemania XI just pisses me off. Who the hell is this Lawrence Taylor guy and WHY is he in the freaking main event!? Also why is Davey Boy teaming with Luger to take on a couple of guys who failed the Berserker auditions? Even Bret had a bad night.

"Despite cards that appear lacklustre on the face of it, WrestleMania normally manages to deliver at least one classic match. What are you looking forward to the most this year?"

I was looking forward to the tag match until the silly stipulation was added. Just add a battle royal instead, gah! Now I am most interested in the MITB and Diva's Battle Royal. HBK vs Taker will be good, but I have no emotional investment in it at all.

"What's your first memory of WrestleMania?"

That would be asking someone to tape Mania X-7 for me as I didn't have Sky Sports and getting very annoyed when I watched it to see that 5 minutes of TLC II hadn't recorded.

"We've asked about your favourite WrestleMania, but what's your favourite Mania match? Will it come from your favourite show?"

Tough, tough, tough. I'm going to say Savage vs Warrior from Wrestlemania VII. I was annoyed how Warrior kicked out of 5 elbow drops yet after just three clotheslines and goodness knows how long it took Warrior to get the Machoman back in the ring he was able to get the pin... with his foot on Savage's chest no less.

"Like the SuperBowl, WrestleMania is an event that goes beyond regular fans and brings in casual viewers. Each group of viewers will tend to have traditions for the event. What's yours?"

I don't have one. But over the last few years it's been- don't order the PPV and watch the MITB online.

"WrestleMania has always been about more than just the matches. Celebrities, the culmination of huge angles, the trotting-out of the year's Hall of Fame class in recent years...what's your favourite non-match memory of WrestleMania?"

Savage/Liz and Eddie/Benoit


Posted By: Tim (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 08:18 AM

 
 
"JP, I'd just like to tell you that I hate you. I hate you a lot. Frickin 3 Wrestlemania's in a row...

Posted By: Brendan (Guest) on March 26, 2009 at 12:16 AM"

It's pretty easy to have money for the shows when you never have to spend money on a girlfriend/wife.


Posted By: Angry Bear (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 08:33 AM

 
 
First live WM on PPV and live:
First WM on PPV I saw live was WM III. I remember running to my next door neighbors house and sitting beside Sonya (oh my GOD was she ever the hotness, but I was too young and stupid to declare my love for her). But we wound up enjoying Savage/Steamboat and Hulk/Andre; I saw WM VI live with my sister, dad and cousin. Sis was a Hulk fan, I was a Warrior fan. SUCK ON THAT, AMIE!

Favorite WM: It has to be X-7; Second would be X-8, simply cause I was there.

Least-favorite WM: WM II just doesn’t do it for me that much, and WM 2000 – as great as it was starting out to be, the end really spoiled it. That was Rock’s WM. I truly believe that this was the beginning of him leaving.

Looking forward to this year: HBK/Taker, of course. MITB to see if it’s Shelton or MVP (It will be one of them) and HHH/Orton, because Orton is the best in the world right now. He deserves to have his moment.

First WM memory: Seriously being AWESTRUCK and DRAINED after watching Savage/Steamboat. Hulk/Andre made me interested, but the IC match made me a fan for life.

Favorite WM match: Austin/Bret @ WM 13. There are very few WM matches that I will watch over and over again, and this one has by far the most replay value with me. To me, this is the PERFECT match. I watch it even when it’s not WM time – It just trancends pro wrestling as a whole.

WM tradition: I used to hang out with about 10 buddies in Canada and we’d get loaded and scream at the TV. Now, it’s my wife, a few friends and some Corona – I also watch every WM before.

Non-match WM moment: The only thing I can think of is the atmosphere during Rock/Hogan @ X-8. It was the most surreal, most backwards and downright kickass things I had ever experienced. EVERYONE was standing. EVERYONE had a voice during that match. Hogan and Rock played off it and basically showed everyone why they are considered the two best showmen of all time.


Posted By: Anarchist (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

 
 
How the hell did only one person mention Austin/Bret as their favourite match yet that overrated, 4 star match (at best) Triple Threat at WrestleMania XX get 3?

Posted By: Bubba (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM

 
 
What a LAME column.

Posted By: Guest (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 12:34 PM

 
 
"Jeff Small-Khali: Who spells "favourite" with a "u"?"

You know, I actually enjoy your columns but this makes you look like an uneducated moron.
The English spell it like that, which is why it's called English strangely enough. Why you have to butch our language and turn it into AmericanEnglish i'll never know but that's a discussion for another time.


Posted By: BenPhoenix (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 12:34 PM

 
 
Were you lot actually really at Mania XX live? Because I was, and MSG was half empty by Benoit's title win. Which really put the exclamation mark on how unimportant it was.

Posted By: Guest#3754 (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 02:15 PM

 
 
Aaron Hubbard: Savage & Liz reuniting. Editor's note: A man of few words...
***

Indeed. Strange...that guy NEVER shuts up.


Posted By: Chief Runs With Beer (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 03:08 PM

 
 
1. XII took place a mere five months after I started watching and my brother and I saw it at a friend’s birthday party (we ironically ordered the Rumble for our joint party). Was in attendance at 13 the next year. Lived in Anaheim a few years later but missed out on seeing 2000.

2. X-Seven hands down. XIX and XX are close behind it.

3. Of the ones I’ve seen XI is the worst; just a glorified In Your House. 13 was pretty bad but my attendance plus the Greatest. Match. Ever. raises its standing significantly. IX, XV, 2000, and X8 are pretty god awful as well.

4. Jericho/Austin definitely. Wait, what’s that? Okay...HBK/Taker hands down. I just rewatched their trilogy from Ground Zero, Badd Blood, and the Royal Rumble and can’t wait for more of the same.

5. First big moment that comes to mind is marking like crazy when Bret caught Michaels coming off the top to look in the Sharpshooter in the Iron Man match. I was in love with the Hitman while my brother backed HBK and I just KNEW I was gaining the bragging rights. I was wrong.

6. Bret/Austin at 13. No question. I was there live, only my second WWF show ever and I see the most amazing match in history. Easiest answer in the world.

7. None. It was sporadic at best when I’d order a show as a kid and nowadays I don’t have any friends into wrestling. If I had to pick something it’d be making sure I have a blank tape ready to record it.

8. Savage and Elizabeth was awesome, but I only watched VII on tape many, many years later. That said, I'll go with the promo for Austin/Rock at X-Seven set to "My Way." I mean, I STILL get goosebumps watching that eight years later. The end of XX used to be up there before the tragedy.


Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 03:55 PM

 
 
"...Rumble 04 wasn't as good as KOTR 95..."

I can state, with unabashed certainty, that that is the first time that phrase has EVER been uttered.


Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 04:02 PM

 
 
"Why you have to butch our language and turn it into AmericanEnglish i'll never know but that's a discussion for another time."

When that time comes, let's be sure to mention all the incomprehensible English slang that the rest of the English-speaking world laughs at. What certain sections of England speaks is barely English. "Plonker".

Also, LOL @ the pic of Vince looking like he just took a HUGE load in the face.


Posted By: Steve307 (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 05:14 PM

 
 
I should have known Lansdell would let his "special friend" Aaron Hubbard go first in the discussion. Those two are so gay for each other its disgusting. Is it true you both like to butt fuck each other whilst one of you wears an Eddie Guerrero mask and the other wears a Chris Benoit mask?

Posted By: Guest#0772 (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 06:03 PM

 
 
The first one I saw on PPV was Wrestlemania V. I was about 8 or 9 years old and my friends who got me into watching wrestling ordered it and invited me over, and got me into it for far longer than they stayed into it.

I would say the cliche one Wrestlemania X-7 is definitely my favorite one. The ending peturbed me a little as SCSA is without a doubt my favorite all time wrestler and is a living legend in the sport from being that loner outlaw, but hey, I can forgive that. Even the McMahon match was watchable. If you need further proof, hey its on 24/7 right now, along with the Smackdown right before, so go watch and come back and try to deny this mania's greatness.

Wrestlemania 9 for certain. The lame Hogan ending was ridiculous.

If I were to order this year, and at this point there's no way in hell I am(sorry, this mania looks like total shit) it would be for Taker/Shawn. I hadn't realized they haven't gone one on one in so long, and while I realize they can't do what they did back then now, they can still perform. I really just with it was biker Taker than Deadman Taker as that was a much more entertaining character.

My first memory would have to be Demolition beating the Andre and Haku at WM VI. They were my absolute favorite tag team, and for them to win back the titles especially from Andre just blew my mind. No one but Hogan beats Andre, but they did(yes, they pinned Haku, but it was still Andre's team).

Favorite match is a tough one. Its a three way tie for me with Austin/Bret and Austin/Rock 1 and 2. If I had to pick one its probably Austin/Bret though.

Most of my friends don't watch anymore, as it is I barely started watching wrestling period again a year ago after about a 4 year layoff. However back in the Attitude era when it was main stream we used to get a keg and have a massive bbq with 20-30+ people at my buddies house who had a big screen and the "special" cable box.

That's easy, two words, Pete Rose.


Posted By: Butters4Prez (Guest)  on March 26, 2009 at 10:51 PM

 
 
"When that time comes, let's be sure to mention all the incomprehensible English slang that the rest of the English-speaking world laughs at. What certain sections of England speaks is barely English. "Plonker"."

There's a difference between slang and just changing words/spellings altogether though.


Posted By: BenPhoenix (Guest)  on March 27, 2009 at 05:38 AM

 
 
I should have known Lansdell would let his "special friend" Aaron Hubbard go first in the discussion. Those two are so gay for each other its disgusting. Is it true you both like to butt fuck each other whilst one of you wears an Eddie Guerrero mask and the other wears a Chris Benoit mask?

Posted By: Guest#0772 (Guest) on March 26, 2009 at 06:03 PM

Vintage Guest#0772!!!


Posted By: Michael Cole (Guest)  on March 27, 2009 at 12:43 PM

 
 
First Mania I ever saw: Wrestlemania XIX. First live Mania I ever saw: 21 in my hometown of LA. I loved Mania 21, great start and I even thought HHH-Batista was good.

Favorite Mania: XIX. X-Seven was great, but XIX holds a special place for me. The first one I ever saw, and whenever I watch it, it brings back great memories of back in the day like when you hear a great song.

Least favorite: 2000. Stupid show, stupid ending.

Looking forward to: WAS Tag Title unification, but now the 'E has made it a lumberjack match: Taker/HBK

First memory: Brock's botched SSP. I had no idea how bad he fucked up.

Favorite Match: HBK/Angle from 21. I was there live, and Angle's moonsault took what seemed like forever, not in a bad way, but he just stayed up there in time, you know?

Tradition: None

Non-Match: Stone Cold walking down the ramp at XIX. Does it count? Maybe not, but that visual of the camera walking behind him is spectacular. Made it seem larger than life.


Posted By: Uh...me (Guest)  on March 28, 2009 at 06:24 PM

 


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