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411's Countdown to WrestleMania 25: The MVPs of WrestleMania
Posted by Daniel Wilcox on 04.01.2009




Thanks to John Meehan for creating this year's logo…

While Vince McMahon may have created WrestleMania and Hulk Hogan may have put it on the map, with the 25th edition of wrestling's own Super Bowl almost upon us I argue that no two names are more synonymous with WrestleMania than Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker. This Sunday those two men will collide in what could be the greatest and most iconic match in WrestleMania history. If nothing else, it's certainly one of the most anticipated; the show-stopping performance put on by both Michaels and Taker to close the 2007 Royal Rumble renewed an IWC-wide desire to see these two go one-on-one in the ring, and now over two years later, it is finally going to happen.

However, one complaint keeps cropping up regarding this match and that would be its predictability: The Undertaker isn't likely to lose his streak any time soon, if ever, and if he were, would it really be to Shawn Michaels, perhaps the person who least needs that kind of rub? Like most others, I have no doubt in my mind that The Undertaker will extend his undefeated streak to 17-0 this Sunday. But that doesn't bother me whatsoever, because I know that regardless of the outcome, this is going to be an instant classic. That said, WWE has done their best to plant a seed of doubt in the minds of fans, hyping up Shawn Michaels' moniker of Mr. WrestleMania whilst having him not only stand up to The Undertaker, but openly mock his streak and his persona on Raw and SmackDown in recent weeks. But all of this begs the question, which does mean more to WrestleMania: the Streak, or the legacy created by Mr. WrestleMania?

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The Early Years

Rewind to 1989, more specifically, twenty years tomorrow. WrestleMania V at Trump Plaza was headlined by the implosion of the Mega Powers as Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage battled over the WWE Championship. But that event is also notable for being the very first WrestleMania appearance of Shawn Michaels, then one half of the popular tag team The Rockers along with Marty Jannetty. It was an inauspicious WrestleMania debut for Michaels, as he and Jannetty were on the losing end of a tag bout against The Twin Towers, Akeem and Big Boss Man. Shawn would team with Jannetty again at Mania VI and Mania VII, losing one match and winning the other. While Mania VII marked the final Mania performance of the Rockers, it was the first Mania win of Shawn Michaels' (at the time) young career. That same year, 1991, The Undertaker made his WrestleMania debut, defeating Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka with relative ease. The streak had begun.

A year later, Shawn would work his first singles match at Mania, besting Tito Santana in the opening contest of at WrestleMania VIII, while on the same night The Undertaker was successful against Jake "The Snake" Roberts. The infamous WrestleMania IX saw Shawn retain the Intercontinental Championship against Tatanka, albeit at the expense of a count-out loss, while The Undertaker earned a DQ win over Giant Gonzales in what is widely considered one of the worst matches in WrestleMania history – indeed many of the bouts that make up Taker's win streak are of pretty poor quality, in contrast to the consistent top notch performances Michaels has turned in year-in, year-out.

The Ladder Match, and the Boyhood Dream


WrestleMania X is perhaps one of the best WrestleManias of all time, and although Undertaker was absent from this show, Shawn Michaels took his first major step in creating the legacy of Mr. WrestleMania, competing in the company's first televised Ladder match against Razor Ramon to crown an undisputed Intercontinental Champion. Ladder matches have become a tradition at WrestleMania, but despite all the TLCs and Money in the Bank bouts, it is arguable than none have surpassed this match, certainly not in terms of its iconic status. This is as innovative and revolutionary as it gets, and although HBK came up short in this match, this would be the first time Shawn really stole the show at WrestleMania. Thankfully, he would accomplish similar feats many, many more times in the years to come.


Shawn would go on to wrestle in his very first WWF Championship match against his former-friend Diesel at WrestleMania XI. Despite the support of Jenny McCarthy and Sid, Michaels was unsuccessful once again at WrestleMania, but it was clear that the world title was a potential reality for Michaels. That same night, the Undertaker continued his streak of wrestling big men at Mania, this time it was King Kong Bundy who fell victim to the unstoppable Undertaker. A year later, Diesel would be facing Undertaker and after a surprisingly impressive match up, Taker picked up the win following a Tombstone Piledriver. But WrestleMania XII is essentially seen as a one-match show, and that's because the main event was a 60-minute Iron Man Match between reigning champion Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. After a rigorous hour that saw neither man score any falls, the match went into over time, and Shawn Michaels claimed his very first WWF Championship following Sweet Chin Music. The boyhood dream had come true, and Shawn had stolen the show for a second time, not just through winning the title, but also his spectacular entrance that saw him fly down from the rafters on a zip wire. Unfortunately, Shawn would miss the next WrestleMania, XIII, but The Undertaker would main event his first, and defeat Sycho Sid to earn a momentous WWF Championship reign.

The Streak Grows, and Michaels' Absence


In an ironic twist of fate, it was a back injury sustained during a match with Undertaker at Royal Rumble 1998 that would mean that Shawn Michaels' match at WrestleMania XIV would be his last for four and a half years. In one of the most significant championship matches of all time, Shawn passed the torch as it were to Stone Cold Steve Austin – "the Austin era has begun!" And while it was Austin's first title reign, and guest enforcer Mike Tyson turning on Michaels post-match that took home the headlines, it was Shawn Michaels who put in the gutsiest performance in wrestling history, working the match essentially with a broken back and putting on a clinic. Some would have pulled out of Mania altogether, others would have toughed it out and worked their way to a passable match. But Shawn Michaels would not settle for anything less than stealing the show.


WrestleMania XIV was also a significant night for Undertaker as it marked the culmination of half-year-long feud with his brother Kane, and probably Taker's best WrestleMania match up to that point. And although it took three Tombstones to put Kane away, and Kane left Taker lying post-match, Undertaker did prevail over Kane, whom he would meet again at WrestleMania years later. However the next year's WrestleMania surely marked a low point in Taker's streak, a horrific Hell in a Cell match with Big Boss Man that saw Boss Man hanged from the cell. But after missing WrestleMania 2000, Taker would rebound with a great bout against Triple H. WrestleMania X-Seven marked Taker's first appearance using the Biker gimmick and arguably the greatest threat to Taker's streak to date. In another ironic twist, had Shawn Michaels' been in any fit shape to do so, plans had Michaels helping out Triple H in defeating Taker. But that never materialized and Taker would emerge victorious following a tremendous contest. A year later, Taker would collide with and defeat legendary Nature Boy Ric Flair, taking him to an impressive and unprecedented 10-0 record. It was beginning to look like Taker was unstoppable at WrestleMania, and that proved to be the case at XIX as, with a little help from Nathan Jones, Taker vanquished the challenge of Big Show and A-Train in another of Taker's WrestleMania encounters we'd all sooner forget.

Michaels would make his WrestleMania return at XIX in a classic confrontation with Chris Jericho. It was first thought that following his back injury in 1998, Shawn would never be able to work again, let alone come back and steal the show like he did here against Jericho. Furthermore, Michaels managed to come out on top, catching Jericho with a roll-up to secure the three count.


Return of the Dead Man, Michaels Back in the Main Event

WrestleMania XX, where it all began again, was a hugely significant event in the company's history, but also a pinnacle point in Mania histories of both Taker and Michaels. After four years as "Biker Taker," the Phenom returned after a lengthy absence under the old Dead Man gimmick. Upon his return, Taker battled old nemesis and brother Kane. Taker would once again prevail, and begin a new reign of terror in WWE. At that same night in Madison Square Garden, Michaels returned to his rightful main event spot, making one third of the World Heavyweight Championship Triple Threat match, also featuring Triple H and Chris Benoit. While it was Benoit who made Triple H submit to win the match and the title, Shawn was part of one of the greatest matches in WrestleMania history… again. It was clear that at WrestleMania XX, it had indeed all began again.


WrestleMania 21 saw The Undertaker's streak greatly challenged for the first time since X-Seven. Randy Orton was still young, but clearly one of the biggest parts of WWE's future – many people believed that Orton would go over the Dead Man, and when he countered a chokeslam mid-air into a RKO, it seemed that the streak was done. But Taker persevered and eventually won with a Tombstone. But not only did Taker pull out the win, this match was also one of his best Mania matches. However, it would be topped later that night by, who else, Shawn Michaels. Michaels and Kurt Angle stole the show in an interpromotional battle that night, putting on an absolute clinic. However, once again Shawn was on the losing end, submitting to Angle's Ankle Lock.

A year later however, Michaels proved just how much of a miracle worker he is, carrying Vince McMahon to an outstanding match at WrestleMania 22. Furthermore, Shawn this time came out victorious after dropping an elbow from a 20-foot ladder, through a table, and then nailing Sweet Chin Music. Undertaker had a much larger task in the form of a Casket match against Mark Henry, but ultimately the World's Strongest man proved no match for Taker who furthered his streak following an impressive Tombstone on the 400-plus pounder.

Championship Matches and Retiring the Nature Boy


WrestleMania 23 saw both Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker challenging for World title; Undertaker, having last eliminated Michaels in the 2007 Royal Rumble, had earned a shot at Batista's World Heavyweight Championship, while Shawn Michaels had defeated Edge and Randy Orton to become the number one contender to John Cena's WWE Championship. Despite Taker being the Rumble winner, his match with Batista went on early and that gave both guys extra incentive to steal the show from Michaels and many people believe that they did just that. While I prefer the main event, I'll agree that Batista and Taker put in a shockingly good effort that would easily have been worthy of closing the show. And ten years after his first WrestleMania title win, Taker did it again, pinning Batista following a Tombstone. Shawn Michaels, however, wasn't so successful, as he submitted to John Cena's STFU in the main event.

Last year at WrestleMania 24, Taker again found himself challenging for the World Heavyweight Championship, this time in the main event against Edge, and for the second year running Taker walked out victorious, forcing Edge to submit to Hell's Gate to take him to 16-0. Interestingly, four out of the last five WrestleManias, including the last three, have ended with submission victories. Taker's match with Edge was considered a Match of the Year Candidate, and furthered the theory that these days, more often than not, Taker puts in an outstanding performance at WrestleMania. However, if there was one man that was going to better that, it was Shawn Michaels, with a little help from Ric Flair. Regardless of whether you believe it was five-stars as many proclaim, Ric Flair's final WWE match was iconic, and a near-flawless example of how good Shawn Michaels is.


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Shawn Michaels has had more five-star matches at WrestleMania than the vast majority of professional wrestlers will have in a lifetime. At least two of his Mania matches, the 1994 Ladder match and last year's emotional win over Ric Flair, are undoubtedly iconic. His matches with Bret, Austin, Jericho, Triple H/Benoit, Angle (and arguably a few others) are classics. And though his win-loss record of 6-9 is hardly flattering, there is no greater WrestleMania performer greater than the Heart Break Kid. But in recent years, Undertaker has looked to challenge that. Taker's career has been somewhat reinvigorated in recent years and matches with Orton, Batista and Edge showcase just how capable the Dead Man is these days, particularly at WrestleMania. Needless to say, his streak is flawless, untouchable and as much a part of his gimmick as the eerie entrance music and iconic walk to the ring.

Shawn's "Mr. WrestleMania" moniker and Undertaker's streak are as much a part of Mania as the colossal championship matches, the celebrity involvement, the pageantry, the majesty that makes WrestleMania so unique. Deciphering which adds more to WrestleMania is just about impossible, because the significance of each is ineffable, much like the importance of WrestleMania itself.

When it comes to WrestleMania, of two things you can be certain; 1) that Shawn Michaels will steal the show, and 2) that The Undertaker will win. But with Taker looking to overtake Michaels as the most consistent WrestleMania performer, it may be conceivable that at least one of the aforementioned "certainties" will no longer be true. But is it plausible that the other, the idea that Taker will always win, will become just a myth?

It is arguable that if The Undertaker were to ever have his streak blemished, ended, the honour should go to a young up-and-comer whose career would sky-rocket off the back of such a win. But the last young would-be star to be given a huge WrestleMania rub was Bobby Lashley – and he decided to leave the company a year later. If we go back a little further, Brock Lesnar prevailed in the main event of WrestleMania XIX and then left a year later. So perhaps giving such a rub to a young performer isn't the best way to go. Indeed, many argued that it should be one of the company's young talents that retired Ric Flair last year, but honestly, would WrestleMania 24 have been so special if Mr. Kennedy or MVP had sent Flair into retirement? Shawn Michaels, being the performer that he is, always raises the bar and always manages to make any potential special moment or special match, classic. If Taker's streak were ended to give a young superstar with potential a rub, it'd be merely serving a purpose; but if were ended by Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania 25, in Texas no less, it'd be something much more; it'd be iconic. It'd be right up there with Austin and McMahon shaking hands over a beaten Rock, blood streaming down Stone Cold's face as he refuses to give in to Bret Hart's Sharpshooter, and Hulk Hogan lifting up and slamming Andre in front of 93,000 fans in terms of the most memorable moments in WrestleMania history.

But regardless of the outcome, make no mistake about it, this is a dream match. Even though these two have wrestled before, they've been kept apart for many years and yet remained the two cornerstones of WWE. Of course, the two intangibles that set this match apart from others, like Hogan vs. Austin and Rock vs. Cena, is that, for one, it's going to happen, and two, both men are pretty much in their respective primes. Unlike Hogan/Austin, a match that would rely on atmosphere alone to make it special, Michaels/Taker is all likelihood going to be the Match of the Night come Sunday, and almost certainly a Match of the Year Candidate. Shawn Michaels has proven time and time again what he is capable of in the ring, not just physically but the stories he is able to tell, and over recent years, Undertaker has really stepped up, having some outstanding matches with a variety of opponents.

In a recent interview, Glen Jacobs (aka Kane) stated that as far as he and many of the other "boys in the back" were concerned, this was the main event of WrestleMania. And indeed, fans seem to be anticipating this bout much more than any of the other matches featured on the card of this weekend's extravagantic show. And while it likely won't get the main event slot (the "boys in the back" considered Flair/Michaels to be last year's true main event), it'll undoubtedly be the one people are talking about the next morning, and a year from now, and probably even another twenty-five years from now.

Simply put, this is two of the best ever, in their primes colliding in their home state. Simply put, this is Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker in front 70,000 people at WrestleMania. Simply put, it just doesn't get any bigger than this.


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When you talk about HBK and the Undertaker and being good wrestlemania performers, you're comparing apples to oranges. HBK has had a lot of main events and great performances, but his W-L record is shit. UT on the other hand has been flawless when you talk in kayfabe terms. But he's been in a lot of worthless filler matches and many of them were duds for performances.

So each are great at WM, but for different reasons. My biggest problem is in building an epic match, you can't have it both ways. Either build up two good records for Kayfabe performers (UT vs. Edge or UT vs. Hogan) or build it up as two good show stealers in WM history (HBK vs. Hardy or someone else who people deemed "good performers" even though it's completely subjective). But you can't have one from column A and one from Column B and call it an epic battle. Otherwise, the WWE is exposing their product.

To me, it's all a moot point, because the REAL Mr. Wrestlemania and I don't care what any of you marks say, is HULK HOGAN! He's headlined all WM's he's been in, main evented all but one (4 he wasn't in the finals, but he headlined since he/andre was the marquee match going in), and won all but two (with one draw). So right there, you got one man who has 1) perfromed exceptionally (meaning the crowd was into it and entertained every WM moment he was out there) 2) Was the headliner or one of the headliners in every show, he never had a worthless or filler WM meatch and 3) has an exceptional win/loss record.


Posted By: Michael (Guest)  on March 31, 2009 at 11:36 PM

 
 
Shawn Michaels has had more five-star matches at WrestleMania than the vast majority of professional wrestlers will have in a lifetime. At least two of his Mania matches, the 1994 Ladder match and last year's emotional win over Ric Flair, are undoubtedly iconic. His matches with Bret, Austin, Jericho, Triple H/Benoit, Angle (and arguably a few others) are classics. And though his win-loss record of 6-9 is hardly flattering, there is no greater WrestleMania performer greater than the Heart Break Kid. But in recent years, Undertaker has looked to challenge that. Taker's career has been somewhat reinvigorated in recent years and matches with Orton, Batista and Edge showcase just how capable the Dead Man is these days, particularly at WrestleMania. Needless to say, his streak is flawless, untouchable and as much a part of his gimmick as the eerie entrance music and iconic walk to the ring.

Shawn's "Mr. WrestleMania" moniker and Undertaker's streak are as much a part of Mania as the colossal championship matches, the celebrity involvement, the pageantry, the majesty that makes WrestleMania so unique. Deciphering which adds more to WrestleMania is just about impossible, because the significance of each is ineffable, much like the importance of WrestleMania itself.

When it comes to WrestleMania, of two things you can be certain; 1) that Shawn Michaels will steal the show, and 2) that The Undertaker will win. But with Taker looking to overtake Michaels as the most consistent WrestleMania performer, it may be conceivable that at least one of the aforementioned "certainties" will no longer be true. But is it plausible that the other, the idea that Taker will always win, will become just a myth?

It is arguable that if The Undertaker were to ever have his streak blemished, ended, the honour should go to a young up-and-comer whose career would sky-rocket off the back of such a win. But the last young would-be star to be given a huge WrestleMania rub was Bobby Lashley – and he decided to leave the company a year later. If we go back a little further, Brock Lesnar prevailed in the main event of WrestleMania XIX and then left a year later. So perhaps giving such a rub to a young performer isn't the best way to go. Indeed, many argued that it should be one of the company's young talents that retired Ric Flair last year, but honestly, would WrestleMania 24 have been so special if Mr. Kennedy or MVP had sent Flair into retirement? Shawn Michaels, being the performer that he is, always raises the bar and always manages to make any potential special moment or special match, classic. If Taker's streak were ended to give a young superstar with potential a rub, it'd be merely serving a purpose; but if were ended by Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania 25, in Texas no less,


Posted By: 16-1 (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 12:01 AM

 
 
In an ironic twist of fate, it was a back injury sustained during a match with Undertaker at Royal Rumble 1998 that would mean that Shawn Michaels' match at WrestleMania XIV would be his last for four and a half years. In one of the most significant championship matches of all time, Shawn passed the torch as it were to Stone Cold Steve Austin – "the Austin era has begun!" And while it was Austin's first title reign, and guest enforcer Mike Tyson turning on Michaels post-match that took home the headlines, it was Shawn Michaels who put in the gutsiest performance in wrestling history, working the match essentially with a broken back and putting on a clinic. Some would have pulled out of Mania altogether, others would have toughed it out and worked their way to a passable match. But Shawn Michaels would not settle for anything less than stealing the show.

Posted By: 16-1 (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 12:02 AM

 
 
I don't wanna toot my own horn here but I began writing a column to send in with this same premise of MVP's of every Wrestlemania goin through each one by one naming MVP's based on their performance. TOOT TOOT!

Posted By: Justin (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 12:22 AM

 
 
I love Bret Hart, I love the Undertaker, I marginally enjoy Hulk Hogan, and can't stand Triple H. With that said, none of these men, nor Rock or Steve Austin, will ever be the level or performer Shawn Michaels is at Wrestlemania. It is not inconceivable to string together at least ten truly memorable Wrestlemania moments featuring Shawn Michaels. Whether it is the ladder match, the last ride of the Rockers in a criminally underrated match with Barbarian and Haku at WM VII, the Iron Man match, or the retirement of Flair last year, there is no better performer than Michaels when it comes late March/early April. There will always be alternate arguments for 'best ever' but no one comes close to mimicking Shawn's Wrestlemania portfolio.

Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 12:25 AM

 
 
Shawn Michaels is the best wrestler EVER. Period. He's my man-crush. Absolutely the best in-ring performer I've ever seen.

Posted By: Dingleberry Bush (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 12:40 AM

 
 
michaels over 'taker. sunday.

Posted By: csonkamaniac (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 12:44 AM

 
 
EXCELLENT Article .

HBK - BEST OF ALL TIME , IMO .

I Would be pleased if the streak ends , but
anyway , it will be a magical match .

***** stars , i think .Perfect match .

Once more HBK Will steal the show
at WM SILVER .


Posted By: HBK Fan (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 01:45 AM

 
 
Anyone thinking that Michaels is coming out on top is crazy... And here is why. On the anniversary of WM they couldn't do another Kane v. Taker match. And the only big name left that is willing to job is HBK. He's matured enough in the last few years that he is no longer the guy "that lays down for NOBODY". And he's also the only guy that will give you the Mania' moment every time out. By the end of the match he'll have you believing he can win, but will ultimatly lose to the Dead Man.

Posted By: Eric (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 03:20 AM

 
 
Talk of Wrestlemania MVP starts, and ends with Hulk Hogan.

Posted By: Volourn (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 03:25 AM

 
 
just to clarify...i believe you made a mistake with HBK's record...by my count he's actually 7-8, not 6-9...i may be wrong but i think i'm pretty sure
he won at WM 7, 8, 9, 12, 19, 22 and 24
and lost at 5, 6, 10, 11, 14, 20, 21, and 23.

ps...i'm a die hard hbk fan and i would love for it to be The Showstopper that ends the streak. It would be amazing..but never count out the Deadman


Posted By: crawdaddy1985 (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 03:41 AM

 
 
I havnt looked forward to a match this much in years, the build up as been awesome & both guys are still up there with the best workers in the company.

Michaels is still the showstopper, esp at wrestlemania & Taker in the last 3 years has had his working boots on.

This will be an epic.


Posted By: jbardo (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 06:38 AM

 
 
Just one thing I wanted to mention regarding Wrestlemania XIV. Apparently, according to Bret Hart's book, Shawn Michaels WAS going to back out of Wrestlemania and forefit the title. But after the Screwjob and the whole "losing his smile" thing, Vince wasn't going to let that happen.

Might be true, might not.


Posted By: ZeroVX (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 07:36 AM

 
 
HBK bar none is the best wrestler of all time. Take into account the promos,the wrestling ability,the storytelling and off the charts charisma, no one , not even Flair is in HBK`s league.He is without doubt the greatest wrestling performer the world has ever seen.

Posted By: Guest#6926 (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 09:33 AM

 
 
It's just too bad we'll never See Randy Savage VS HBK at Wrestlemania.

Posted By: The Rev (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 09:56 AM

 
 
Crawdaddy, he LOST at WM9 by Countout @18:13

Posted By: Guest#8503 (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 10:31 AM

 
 
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels will be five stars, defo. CANT WAIT FOR THE BEST WM IN YEARS!

Posted By: WWEFan (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 10:32 AM

 
 
There's certainly more than a convincing argument to be made that Taker/Michaels is the true main event, and should even close the show at Wrestlemania...several of those arguments were made in the column above (great stuff, by the way).

I don't see it happening, though. It's become clear here that, while Wrestlemania 20 may have been the McMahons' love letter to the WWE fans, Wrestlemania 25 is clearly the McMahons' love letter to themselves.

So Vince will, undoubtedly, have a member of his own family at the main event of Wrestlemania - even if it's his son in law - and really, in a way, it's not entirely undeserved. Additionally, we're near-guaranteed to get a great match out of HHH/Orton, so it's not like it's a lose-lose deal. But the fact of the matter is that the last match on the night of WM25 was set in stone a long time ago.

However -

Expect Taker/Michaels to almsost certainly go on after Cena/Show/Edge. I expect that to go on at around the halfway mark. Hardy vs. Hardy may even beat it higher up on the card (Cena, Show, and Edge are about the biggest company men WWE has, so I recon they'd do the least amount of bitching about their match splitting the show in half, and that fact is probably not lost on Vince). Taker/Michaels will likely be the 3rd to last match, with the Divas match (as is usually done) in between, as the pissbreak/cooling off match.

It's about as good as can be expected, really.


Posted By: BJC (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 10:34 AM

 
 
just to clarify...i believe you made a mistake with HBK's record...by my count he's actually 7-8, not 6-9...i may be wrong but i think i'm pretty sure
he won at WM 7, 8, 9, 12, 19, 22 and 24
and lost at 5, 6, 10, 11, 14, 20, 21, and 23.

Posted By: crawdaddy1985 (Guest) on April 01, 2009 at 03:41 AM

Nope, 6-9 is correct. Shawn lost at Mania IX, by count-out. He retained his IC title, hence that's why you may have thought he won.


Posted By: Daniel Wilcox (Registered)  on April 01, 2009 at 10:36 AM

 
 
I'd of gave anything if The Undertaker came down to the ring dancing to Shawn Michaels music, just to show who the true master of the mind games is!

Posted By: HbUndertaker! (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 11:18 AM

 
 
just to clarify...i believe you made a mistake with HBK's record...by my count he's actually 7-8, not 6-9...i may be wrong but i think i'm pretty sure
he won at WM 7, 8, 9, 12, 19, 22 and 24
and lost at 5, 6, 10, 11, 14, 20, 21, and 23.

ps...i'm a die hard hbk fan and i would love for it to be The Showstopper that ends the streak. It would be amazing..but never count out the Deadman

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Please read the article fully before criticising. He clearly states that Michaels retained the Intercontinental Championship at WM9 via a "count-out loss". Therefore he did not win at WM9


Posted By: guest (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 11:40 AM

 
 
It was very gutsy of Shawn Michaels to work WM XIV with a broken back, but I'd say it was equally risky (if not more so) for Kurt Angle to work WM XIX with a severely-damaged neck.

Posted By: Nick M. (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 11:46 AM

 
 
Truly fantastic article! I'm a huge HBK fan. In my opinion, there's the ShowStappa and then everybody else. HBK will lose Sunday, but you're right. This is the stuff of legends and will go down in history! Huzzah!

Posted By: Steven (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 12:45 PM

 
 
fantastic column,got chills after reading the last line.Taker deserves the victory 17-0 at WM

Posted By: Guest#1577 (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 01:14 PM

 
 
Taker's kayfabe streak will win over Michaels' legitimate Mr. WrestleMania moniker. Michaels won't be hurt in the slightest with a loss, but The Streak has become, as you said, part of Taker's mystique and will likely remain forever.

Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 02:13 PM

 
 
It's just too bad we'll never See Randy Savage VS HBK at Wrestlemania.

Posted By: The Rev (Guest) on April 01, 2009 at 09:56 AM

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Buy nine copies of Savage's DVD this summer. Tell em we want Michaels/Savage at XXVI!

As for HBK/Taker main eventing...it shouldn't. You have to keep the illusion that the title is the ultimate prize in wrestling, thus the Royal Rumble winner's title match should ALWAYS go on last. Yes, Taker/HBK is the true main event, and it's the reason I'll likely drop $55 to watch, but it still shouldn't go on last.


Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 02:18 PM

 
 
The real WrestleMania MVP? Paul Roma. You know it to be fact.

Posted By: Roma (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 02:42 PM

 
 
I am realy looking forward to this match more so than I have in a very long time. I honestly hope and think Undertaker will win. I also think this could very well end up being a match of a lifetime.

As for the Kayfabe streak vs. the Mr. Wrestlemania thing I would say to realy look at it you also have to take into account who they were facing.

Not taking anything away from Michael's who is legitimately one of my favorite performers ever, but his stellar performances were turned in with Bret Hart,Kurt Angle,Ric Flair, Razor Ramon(in his prime) and Steve Austin. Taker's early matches were against The Giant Gonzales, The Big Boss Man, King Kong Bundy, and a Jake Roberts (well into his decline). Michael's can turn in a passable performance with a rubber chicken and Undertaker can put on an excellent show with at least a marginally talented opponent. With this in mind regardless of who wins and who loses this should be another truly iconic match.


Posted By: Daniel (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 04:13 PM

 
 
As for HBK/Taker main eventing...it shouldn't. You have to keep the illusion that the title is the ultimate prize in wrestling, thus the Royal Rumble winner's title match should ALWAYS go on last. Yes, Taker/HBK is the true main event, and it's the reason I'll likely drop $55 to watch, but it still shouldn't go on last.

Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on April 01, 2009 at 02:18 PM

dude, i totally agree with you about that. but... i know everybody here remembers wrestlemania 18, and how hogan and rock not just tore the house down, but took all of the heat with them when they left.
i think this year, depending on the finish of each match, is going to determine who goes on last. there's definitely a possibility of both heels walking away with the world titles, so mcmahonagement might want 'taker and hbk on last to give the fans a happy ending.
hypothetically(yes, HYPOTHETICALLY), if hbk winning is at all a possibility, i'm afraid that if it didn't go on last, michaels and 'taker would take the crowds interest with them, especially if it's the five-star classic we're all waiting for.
besides that, the one match you can possibly put after that match is orton/hhh. is anyone really gonna fuckin' care about the triple threat if it goes on last?? the crowd would be dead.

michaels over 'taker. four days left.


Posted By: csonkamaniac (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 05:06 PM

 
 
Shawn Michaels does not deserve the honor of ending The Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak! No one does.

The Streak is The Undertaker's legacy. He is one of the greatest of all time, but his biggest claim to fame is being Undefeated at Wrestlemania.

In the next few years, he will probably retire, and Wrestlemania will lose a little of its luster when that happens. My hope is that he makes it to 20-0.

These past few weeks should give you the outcome at Wrestlemania. HBK got to shine and beat Taker at his own mind games, but when the final bell rings at WM 25, The Undertaker will be standing tall at 17-0!


Posted By: AndreFan (Registered)  on April 01, 2009 at 07:14 PM

 
 
Talk of Wrestlemania MVP starts, and ends with Hulk Hogan.

Posted By: Volourn (Guest) on April 01, 2009 at 03:25 AM



GTFO!


Posted By: Guest#2669 (Guest)  on April 01, 2009 at 07:46 PM

 
 
excellent comments by everyone, Hogan or Taker or anyone never had the skills shawn has to put up a great fight, if u remember two months back john cena said Shawn wont even have a wrestlemania match as he was working for jbl, good story line, sad part is when shawn beats kozlov and is ready to fight the taker the concept writers are making shawn hit cheap shots at the taker, that turns me off, shawn doesnt have to have anti crowd support or doesnt need this so probably they;ll give taker the win but after a good match.......i want taker's streak to end.

Posted By: Faraz HBK FAN (Guest)  on April 05, 2009 at 04:07 AM

 


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