The 411 Wrestling Top 5 4.08.09: Week 17 People Who Should be in the WWE Hall of Fame
Posted by Michael Bauer on 04.08.2009
KoKo B. Ware is in the Hall of Fame? I can think of at least five guys who should be in over him!
Hello everyone and welcome to 411 Wrestling's Top 5 List. What we are going to is take a topic each week and all the writers here on 411 wrestling will have the ability to give us their Top 5 on said topic, plus up to three honorable mentions. At the end, based on where all these matches rank on people's list, we will create the 411 Wrestling Top 5 list. The scoring is very similiar to the Wrestler of the Week as it looks like this:
#1 Choice 5 points
#2 Choice 4 points
#3 choice 3 points
#4 Choice 2 points
#5 Choice 1 point
Honorable Mentions will break ties, but get no points.
Also, in the case of a tie, the most votes win, regardless of where it is listed in the individual Top 5. I will also use this rule in the event that one item is mentioned more often, but is one point behind. For example, one second place vote and two Honorable Mentions will defeat simply one first place vote.
So, on to this week's topic
THE TOP 5 PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE IN THE WWE HALL OF FAME
WrestleMania is also the annual coronation of the latest class of the WWE Hall of Famers. And every year, while we question how some of those people deserve to be in the Hall of Fame (Koko B. Ware SERIOUSLY?), we also think about who should be in the next class of the Hall of Fame or should have been included this year, if not years ago. Because as great as Stone Cold was for all of a few years, there are people who were greater for a longer amount of time and have yet to be enshrined next to the Hulk Hogan's and the Bret Hart's of the wrestling past. We asked the 411 Wrestling Staff to give us the Top 5 People that they feel should be included this year or any year soon. And try putting those inot a specific order, that's the great debate.
So what did our great group of writers select? Let's find out
Robert S. Leighty Jr
HONORABLE MENTIONS
Raven - I am a Raven mark, and I would hate myself if I didn't give him an honorable mention, and if Koko can make it, Raven should.
Eric Bischoff - Verne Gagne was inducted, so why shouldn't the man who actually dethroned Vince as the King of the Wrestling business?
Arn Anderson - I had hoped he would have gone in last year with Flair, but his day should come pretty quickly.
5.Elizabeth - This is my sentimental pick, and I think her inclusion is long overdue. She played a huge role in the wrestling business, and was a trailblazer during a period when a lot of females were not included. How many of the current and former Divas in the WWE do you think were influenced by Liz.
4.Paul Heyman - Induct him not only for what he accomplised in ECW, but what he did as a manager alone should be enough. He revolutionized the business with a group of misfits in a Bingo Hall in South Philly, and for that he should be awarded. I assume he will get his due some day, and I can't wait to hear the speech he gives.
3.The Road Warriors - Since Animal is retired, and Hawk has passed on, this team is way past being overdue for the Hall of Fame. They were a huge attraction as a Tag Team, and while not the greatest men in the ring, they honestly made you believe they could kill someone. Their promo work was all great (especially Hawk), and they left a legacy that few tag teams can match.
2.Bruno Sammartino - He had the longest WWF Title reign in the history, and was a massive draw for Vince Sr. He won't be inducted because he hates the current product, and Vince won't induct him unless he agrees to be paraded around at the Hall of Fame ceremony. It's a shame that a lot of today's fans don't have a clue how important this man was.
1.Randy Savage - In a perfect world this man would have went into the Hall of Fame years ago. Hopefully the fact they are releasing a Savage DVD means bridges are being mended, and that he will take his place in the Hall. I just hope that he is still alive when they finally do induct him because his speech will be awesome.
Scott Rutherford
I just want to quickly say I left off any names that will be a lock for future HOF induction (Taker/Shawn, Savage) and went for people that should be brought in but aren't for some reason
HONORABLE MENTIONS
Bob Backlund - A legit draw for the WWWF for over 6 years and one of the most impressive natural wrestlers ever. I REALLY want to hear his induction speech.
Earl Hebner - Ejected from the WWE under a cloud of stealing from the company, Earl was the ref in many WM main events and every other major card and always added something to a match. Best referee ever!
Lou Thesz - The King of Old School is a legend that deserves recognition. No other explanation needed.
5.Demolition - These guys were one of the original "cool, bad guys that ended up being cheered for" league. The longest reigning tag champs of all time, they initially started out as Road Warrior rip-offs and remarkably, probably made Vince more money than when he finally did get his hands on the Legion of Doom. They had a great look, gave good promo, worked well in the ring and were mightily over. Any fan that grew in the 80's loved Ax and Smash and provided us with a clutch of memories (the HUGE pop on their third title win at WM6 comes to mind) that has earned them the right to be HOFers but legal action from Bill Eadie (Ax) over the rights to the Demoliton name has probably soured the prospect.
4.Ted Turner - I've mentioned this name in the forums in the past and gotten some interesting replies. For all his faults, Ted was a BIG wrestling man and poured many a dollar into various territories and WCW often without much return. He was the man that drove Vince to try harder bringing about the second boom in wrestling. He gave Eric Bischoff a long leash, which prompted the Monday Night Wars and one of the most creatively interesting periods in wrestling. Gave the man his due, he changed the wrestling landscape and thus, should be rewarded even if he did almost run Vince out of business!
3.Don Owens - Most reading this feature would be drawing a blank right now but Don Owen is one of the most highly regarded and respected figures in wrestling history. The son of fight promoter Herb, Don made Portland wrestling (PNW) into one of the hottest territories in wrestling by becoming the first man to televise the product on TV in that area. He helped create many of the sports biggest stars with the most notable being Rowdy Roddy Piper who respected Don so much, that he refused to work WWF cards that were in direct competition to PNW cards. You never hear anyone speak ill of the man (although I'm sure there are some people out their that will). Don created his legacy based on being an honest man in a dishonest industry who managed to maintain his integrity even when the WWF expansion fire sale on the territories (EVERYTHING MUST GO!) was burning his livelihood down around him. Respect and tribute is long overdue.
2.Sting - The one big star Vince couldn't lure into the WWF but that shouldn't stop him from his rightful place in the HOF. There's really nothing I could say that anyone reading this doesn't already know but for the newer fans that have only TNA as your Sting-guide, this man was every bit as over as Hulk Hogan and should have been a mass-media sensation but thanks to piss-poor management from the NWA and WCW, he relegated to something much less. I still hope he gets brought into the WWE for a short run and to go out on top like he deserves because he is a true wrestling legend.
1.Bruno Sammartino - This is a given. Bruno made the WWWF back in the 60's and carried it on his back up to and through the Bob Backlund years. He's the longest reign champion ever (7½ years) has held the title for more days (4040), headlines a massive 130 shows at the MSG including a record 45 sell outs (eat that Hulk Hogan!) with almost 35 of those coming in a row. Sadly Bruno has soured on the WWE and his later day experiences with them and has recently championed the cause of preventing wrestlers dying young due to drug abuse (both performance enhancing and recreational) which he lays almost exclusive blame at the feet of Vince McMahon. Personally, Bruno needs to come down off his high horse since he's being giving blow jobs to Kurt Angle recently and we all know that mans history with drugs. Hopefully one day Bruno will realize that this is an honor that the fans want to see and it isn't driven by McMahon's ego.
Julian Bond
I wasn't counting any WWE wrestler who's currently working and are definite picks (Taker, Michaels) for future HOF status when they retire.
HONORABLE MENTIONS
Jake "The Snake" Roberts - Despite the man's heavily storied history with drug abuse, the WWE should still someday soon recognize Roberts for being one of the most unique wrestlers ever in their ring and for providing oh-so-many great memorable moments.
5.Owen Hart - Owen Hart was without a shadow of a doubt one of the best workers ever in the WWE. In the almost ten years he was with the company, he had provided solid match after solid match and was a definitive staple in the WWE roster. His memorable feud with his brother Bret, the tag team reigns with Yokozuna and British Bulldog, and his part in the infamous Hart Foundation all were great memories. Due to the tragic accident inadvertently caused by the company, his HOF induction may never happen, but I can keep on hoping.
4.The Road Warriors - While I'm not the biggest Road Warriors fan in the world, when I noticed that these guys' names were listed yet as one of the tag teams in the HOF I was a little shocked. Having watched tons of their matches as youth and remembering everyone and their mama cheering for their every move, I think that they should definitely be entered in. The team is definitely one of the best to ever step foot in the ring.
3.Sting - Only so many words can describe what this man has brought to the table in the wrestling world. Despite the obviousness that Sting is with rival TNA right now, the moment he steps away from them McMahon should grab the opportunity to recognize his great past work in NWA/WCW. He definitely deserves it.
2.Paul Heyman - Without the "mad scientist" brain of Paul Heyman, there simply wouldn't be an ECW. And without ECW, the "WWE Attitude" era may have not been so accepted and a lot of the formats for some past deemed "extreme" storylines today may not have been used. Despite the guy essentially being the one to drown his own company to bankruptcy, he should still be recognized as an innovator for putting easily some of the craziest content EVER on our wrestling TV screens.
1.Randy Savage - Savage should've been inducted a good while ago around when Hogan was, but the reported bad blood between him and McMahon kept this from occurring. But I hope that changes soon cause the more I've watched his matches (particularly his Wrestlemania bouts), the more I believe that it's a no-brainer to induce him. From putting on some of the most memorable bouts in wrestling history to being a funny-as-hell commentator for a couple of years, Savage has definitely made a true dent in WWE history.
Ryan Byers
HONORABLE MENTIONS
Toru Tanaka - Tanaka is a guy from WWE's past who they seem to have forgotten about for no good reason. He was a three-time Tag Team Champion with Mr. Fuji back when being a Tag Team Champion actually meant something in the company.
Antonio Inoki - Inoki was a long-time business associate of WWE, a very popular guest star for them, and, depending on whose version of history you choose to believe, a former WWE Champion. That alone should merit some consideration, and he becomes a virtual lock if you even begin to think about what he did outside of the McMahon-held company.
5.Sable - This induction will not happen at any point in the near future due to her relationship with Brock Lesnar, but there was a point at which Sable was legitimately the WWF's second biggest star behind Steve Austin when the company was at its peak of mainstream popularity. That certainly makes her more deserving than, say, Koko B. Ware.
4.Wendi Richter - In a lot of ways, Richter is similar to Sable. Both women left the company on bad terms, which has resulted in their former popularity being minimized in WWE's official history books. Yet, if you go back in time and actually look at the WWF landscape when Richter was the company's champion, she was almost as popular as the top male acts. Her involvement with Cyndi Lauper was in many ways just as important as Hulk Hogan's involvement with Mr. T. when it came to making the first Wrestlemania a success. And, to top it all of, she wasn't much of a slouch in the ring, either.
3.Ted DiBiase - With Ted DiBiase, Jr. on the company's roster and Ted Sr. having a seemingly good relationship with the company, one would have to think that this is a lock for the 2010 Hall of Fame Class if not 2011. It is deserved as well. Though his list of accomplishments in terms of championships is a bit light in the WWF, DiBiase was the promotion's top heel for a significant period of time and a good hand who kept the promotion's in-ring product strong for those of us who crave that sort of thing. On top of that, he was one of the biggest stars in Mid-South Wrestling, a promotion we may begin to hear much more about on WWE TV if rumors regarding a McMahon purchase of that promotion's tape library came to pass.
2.Bob Backlund - A lot of very young fans fail to acknowledge what Backlund accomplished in wrestling because they weren't around when he was competing. A lot of fans in their 20's and 30's fail to acknowledge what Backlund accomplished in wrestling because, when they saw him competing, he was essentially a comedic figure. Even some fans who saw him in his heyday fail to acknowledge what Backlund accomplished because they saw him as a second-rate version of his contemporary Jack Brisco. None of those fans are giving a fair shake to the former NCAA Champion. Backlund sat atop the WWF empire for six years as champ, exhibiting the kind of staying power that most wrestlers only dream of having. When his career in the Fed was seemingly done for, he reinvented himself in Japan and had a surprisingly good series of matches in the shoot-style UWFi. When his relationship with that company came to an end, he reinvented himself one more time and became a psychopathic heel who managed to snag one last bit of glory by grasping the WWF Championship for a second time. And do you know what? He remained in AMAZING shape for every single minute of his career. The man is pushing sixty, but I'd be willing to bet that he could still put the vast majority of this site's readership to shame in the Harvard step test.
1.Bruno Sammartino - I can count the number of Bruno Sammartino matches that I have actually watched on my fingers and didn't even start watching wrestling until almost twenty years after his peak, but, after all of the reading that I have done about the history of professional wrestling in general and WWE specifically, I can unequivocally say that if I were assembling a WWE Hall of Fame from scratch, Bruno would be one of the first three guys to be inducted. Obviously his eight years with the company's top championship can be cited. However, just as impressive if not moreso is the significant number of Madison Square Garden sell-outs and near sell-outs that the Italian muscleman drew. He was on top for nearly a decade, and, despite that fact, he was able to keep his act fresh to the point that fans would still turn out in droves on a regular basis to see him. Part of that is a testament to the quality of old school booking, but an even bigger part of it is how Bruno managed to capture the imaginations of an entire generation of wrestling fans in the New York market. Had Sammartino not laid the foundation on a regional basis, men like Hogan, Austin, and the Rock never would have been able to make millions on an international basis.
Aaron Hubbard
HONORABLE MENTIONS
Jake "The Snake" Roberts - An iconic character who worked well as a babyface and a heel, and definitely deserves a spot.
The Outsiders - You could make a case for Scott Hall and Kevin Nash entering separately or as a team, but they will probably never make it anyway.
Arn Anderson - The Enforcer, one of the most solid talkers and workers ever in wrestling.
5. Bruno Sammartino - The REAL living legend, Bruno was the first big star of the then-WWWF. He held the World Championship on two occasions and has logged more time as WWE champ than anyone. Why so low on the list? Because the only one keeping him out is Bruno himself.
4. Bob Backland - Champion of the WWE for six years, and one of the few champions that didn't need a crazy persona to get over. Now, the crazy persona he had in the mid-90's was pretty cool, but the Bob I'd like to remember is the boy scout pure wrestler of the 70's and 80's. His induction is long overdue.
3. The Road Warriors/Legion of Doom - WWE missed the boat with Wrestlemania 22 being in Chicago. These guys are the only tag team that could be considered a main event-level draw. They revolutionized tag team wrestling and wrestled for over two decades. If being the most popular tag team and being the first to win the WWE, NWA and AWA tag team championship isn't enough to earn Hall of Fame status, then what is?
2.Randy Savage & Miss Elizabeth - Is it a cop-out? It would be if these two weren't so bound to each other. Savage was a two time WWE Champion, two-time Wrestlemania main eventer, and one of the first guys to truly bring workrate to the WWE. Elizabeth is the first lady of wrestling and a big part of Randy Savage's character. Do they belong in the Hall of Fame? OOOOOOOOOH YEAH!
1.Ted DiBiase - Why this guy isn't in the Hall of Fame is beyond me. He was one of the best heels during one of wrestling's hottest periods. He was a very good worker and has continued to help WWE as a Road Agent. Ted Jr. is right there to induct him. Every year that "The Million Dollar Man" is not inducted in the Hall of Fame, my heart breaks a little.
Larry Csonka
HONORABLE MENTIONS
Mr. T. - He really needs to be in as a celebrity, I have pushed it for some time. Both he and the WWE need to pull the stick from their ass and make it happen. Seriously, what else is Mr. T doing other than cool WoW commercials?
Arn Anderson - Anderson was always the "Enforcer" of the Four Horsemen, and Flair's "cousin" and right hand man. Arn was always there beside Flair, supporting him, protecting his titles and also adding gold and prestige to the Horsemen. Hell, he named the Horsemen! While Arn was never flashy, he was always good in the ring and one hell of a promo. If the limo driver and Koko can get in, why the hell shouldn't Arn?
Antonio Inoki - Inoki's overall influence as a wrestler and promoter should get him into any and every Hall of Fame. That's the bottom line.
5. The Road Warriors - Before the Dudleyz/Team 3D came along with their claim to the throne of being the greatest, the Road Warriors were the baddest mother fucker son the planet. Winning the NWA, AWA, and WWF titles while ripping out Dusty Rhode's eye, they were the shit. Hawk is gone, but Animal is still around to accept the honor, and it is a shame that they haven't been honored before now.
4. Ted Dibiase - Dibiae is a personal favorite of mine, and is one of those guys that never got the world title, when he really should have. We all know the rumors that he had been promised the NWA Title at one point and that he was promised the WWF Title at WM 4, and unfortunately he never got these. The man was a great performer for years, in and out of the ring, and is one of the performers that also helped make the other greats. Plus his son works for the company, he has another son in the business, eventually WWE bound, he'll get in and he should.
3. Randy Savage - Randy Savage is considered one of the greatest workers of his generation, as well as one of the most inconsistent. He was considered a master of ring psychology and very gifted on the mic. Over the last few years he has been labeled by many fans as crazy due to his constant challenges to Hulk Hogan, including some on his rap album, as well as his there and then gone stint with TNA and then virtual disappearance. But if you take out all of that, you have a man that was very influential on today's generation of wrestlers. When you take into account that, all of the great matches and classic Macho moments you have a hard time arguing that he shouldn't be included into any hall.
2. Bob Backlund - Bob Backlund more than belongs in any Hall of Fame. Hewas a true wrestler and superior athlete that was in many ways out of place in the WWWF, but was able to rise to the top. A true ring technician in a time of body building physiques, who a decade later at the age of 43 came back and was in better shape than most on the WWF roster in 1993, really needs no defense as one of the all time greats.
1. Bruno Sammartino - Austin was the WWF in the 90's, Hogan was the WWF in the 80's, and Sammartino was the WWWF in the 70's. These are things that cannot be argued. But Vince and Bruno haven't seen eye to eye for nearly 30-years, and due to that, neither one is willing to put the bullshit aside. Bruno deserves to be in the Hall, he knows he deserves it, Vince Knows here deserves it, but with the hate they have for each other, I doubt we'll see the induction while Sammartino is alive. He carried the company in the 70's with a record title run and MSG records that cannot be rivaled, as Byers said, he laid the groundwork for Hogan, Austin, and the Rock and others.
Chris Lansdell
Bruno Sammartino - Only here instead of on the actual list because he has said repeatedly he doesn't want to be in. The face of the company for longer than anyone not named Hogan.
Mr T - Pete Rose is lonely.
Ron Simmons - The first Black world champion in the Big Two deserves to be in for that fact alone.
5. Sting - WCW's attempted answer to Hulk Hogan is the biggest North American name to never wrestle for WWE. He has held a plethora of titles in the US and a few in Japan, and at the peak of his popularity was one of the most over talents in wrestling. Due to being associated with TNA it is unlikely Sting will be inducted in the near future.
4. Jeff Jarrett - One of the biggest names in the south (along with Jerry Lawler) as well as a decent booker and now owner. Many newer fans may not realise that Jarrett was a world champ in WCW, as well as holding over 25 titles in the USWA. Even less likely than Sting to be inducted, but if Verne Gagne can get in...
3. Eric Bischoff - The man who was more responsible for WCW's dominance of the early Monday Night Wars than any other. Bischoff deserves induction for the nWo alone, let alone the effect he had on professional wrestling and the Attitude era. Bischoff's on-air role was also very important in the Wars, and after them as GM of Raw.
2. Randy Savage - When Vince needed to sell tickets (or anything else) in the 80s, he turned to Hogan. When he needed a good match, he turned to Savage. Randy Savage managed to pull great mataches out of Hogan and Warrior, as well as having classics with Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat. Whatever the reason for the beef between Savage and McMahon, the Macho Man deserves a spot.
1. Vincent Kennedy McMahon - Name one person who has done more for wrestling in the past 25 years. Vince McMahon IS professional wrestling in North America, and love him or hate him he deserves to be recognised for that. Many, many other men would have given up and walked away by now, but Vince has made every effort to keep up with changing opinions and has kept his company as a viable profitable business for years after every major competitor stuttered, died and got bought...by Vince McMahon.
Michael Bauer
HONORABLE MENTIONS
Mr. T - I'm with Larry, Mr. T needs to get the stick out of his ass and accept an invite to the Hall.
Bob Backland - Bob Backland had one very long title run in the 1980's and is more than deserving.
Ted Dibiase - The Million Dollar Man wasn't the greatest, but if KoKo B. Ware is in, then Ted should be a lock.
5.Arn Anderson, Ole Anderson, and Tully Blanchard - I was going to just say Double A, but thinking about it, if you going to put him in, you should also grant the rest of the Original Four Horsemen a spot in the Hall. Without the Horsemen, you have no insperation for some of the greatest stables ever and perhaps miss out of some of the greatest feuds ever.
4.Bruno Sammartino - Bruno was wrestling in the 1970's, there is no question about it and Scott has enough facts to back up everything. He truly is a legend in the ring and there is no reason that a personal bias by McMahon should keep him out.
3.Randy Savage - I think I covered enough about Savage's greatness in the last Top 5 as we talked about WrestleMania. He performed on the biggest stage of them all and simply was one of the greatest when the stakes were higher. And while you can debate whether or not Miss Elizabeth should be included with him, there is no denying that Randy Savage is Hall of Fame material.
2.The Road Warriors - Yes, the Dudleys have ten times the Tag Team Title reigns. Yes, they didn't revolutionize Tag Team wrestling through insane ladder matches, table matches, or combonation of those two plus chair matches. But The Road Warriors were Tag Team wrestling at the height of Tag Team wrestling, before the boom of the Hardys, Edge and Christian, and Team 3D.
1.Chris Benoit - Ok, let the hate flow, but let's face it, Chris Benoit's WRESTLING career is Hall of Fame worthy. And before you give me that he killed his family crap, tell me how he is any different than O.J. Simpson still being in the NFL Hall of Fame. And O.J. did a lot more than Benoit ever did outside of the sport. But Benoit had a near twenty year career and would have been side by side with Eddie when he retired without a blink of an eye if that one event did not happen. There is not a doubt about that in anyone's mind and that is why he tops my list.
So with all said and done, here is the 411 Wrestling's Overall Top 5 People who Should be in the WWE Hall of Famre.
5. "The Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase - 10 points (1 1st place vote, 1 3rd place vote, 1 4th place vote, 1 Honorable Mention)
4. Bob Backland - 10 points (2 2nd place votes, 1 4th place vote, 2 Honorable Mentions)
3. The Road Warriors - 13 points (1 2nd place vote, 2 3rd place votes, 1 4th place vote, 1 5th place vote)
2. Bruno Sammartino - 22 points (3 1st place votes, 1 2nd place vote, 1 4th place vote, 1 5th place vote, 1 Honorable Mentions)
1. Randy Savage - 24 ponts (2 1st place votes, 2 2nd place votes, 2 3rd place votes)
King Kong Bundy? The man Main Evented WM2. If CoCo B Ware gets in KKB should be in.
Big John Studd also
Posted By: KKB (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:11 PM
No love for the longest reigning intercontinental champion?
How could it slip people's mind, he inducted Koko B. Ware this weekend.
Posted By: Mouth of the South (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Randy Savage and Ted DiBiase, that is all that needs to be said.
Bauer you gutsy bastard! What a way to get clicks and comments!
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:12 PM
I think Benoit would have only been a borderline HOFer if that tragedy never took place. So that being said, there's no way he's the number one most deserving guy not in the hall of fame right now, Michael.
Posted By: Leo (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Any one that DID NOT say Savage, doesn't deserve to write for this site.
Posted By: Dave (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Not one mention of Zbyszko? A guy who had so much heel heat that he had fans tip his cab over and had a fan literally stab him in the ass?
Posted By: It's hard to be humble (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Savage should only get in if he's the crown jewel inductee in a given year. If he has to play second fiddle to anybody, it's better to hold him off for yet another year.
I don't want to see Savage get screwed the way Piper did in 2005 (when he was going to be the center of the HOF ceremony and then Vince landed Hogan and made RRP the 2nd most important inductee).
Posted By: Jason S (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:23 PM
When do we get the 2009 inductees of the 411mania HOF?
Posted By: crush (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:26 PM
mr. t
dean malenko
ultimate warrior
honky tonk man
rick rude
Posted By: rey (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:32 PM
All great picks for the overall top 5, and I'm glad that people mentioned Elizabeth and Eric Bischoff as well.
Posted By: Nick M. (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Goldberg
Sting
Randy Savage
Kevin Nash
Bruno Sammartino
Posted By: miles (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Lots of good picks. As far as Benoit, I am/was a HUGE Benoit fan. I think it would be a great disservice to everything wrestling has become to not honor his career at some point. I don't see it happening in the near future but somewhere down the road, maybe five or ten years, who knows. If i've learned anything from wrestling, its never say never.
Posted By: Tito (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:50 PM
props to lansdell for mentioning bischoff, the man deserves it.
i also wanna mention brian pillman. i know he didn't have an epic career, but when brian showed up in the 'f, you knew that things were definitely starting to pull in a different direction.
gotta mention goldust. he's still active, i know, but this guy WAS ATTITUDE BEFORE ATTITUDE.
scott hall, vader, yokozuna, and bam bam bigelow are a few other guys that you wouldn't necessarily think of in this conversation, but all deserve it for one reason, or another.
wait a second. i gotta give some love for jake roberts too.
Posted By: Chulahoma (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Savage
Ted DiBiase
The Road Warriors
Bruiser Brody
Jake Roberts
Posted By: Guest #1 (Guest) on April 07, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Owen Hart, for god sake. HE accomplishments are more than deserving. What a joke it is having KoKo B Ware in the HOF, and not DiBiase, Honky, Jake, Randy, Backlund, Studd, Bundy, etc. What a joke
Posted By: Mr. X (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Dynamite Kid & Davey Boy Smith
Barry Windam
Abdullah The Butcher
Midnight Express (Eaton & Lane)
Vader
Honorable mention Rick Martel
Posted By: Forgotten names (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:10 AM
O.J. was tried for murder AFTER he went in the Hall of Fame. Benoit will never go into the WWE hall of fame. I just don't see the company (being a publicly traded one at that) taking that risk.
Posted By: Anthony (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:10 AM
To Michael Bauer:
One keep difference between OJ Simpson and Chris Benoit in your comparison there is that OJ wasn't inducted into the Hall of Fame AFTER he murdered two people. That makes a huge difference.
Posted By: Snabbit (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Guys... Big John Studd was inducted in 2004.
Posted By: Zambo (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:13 AM
If you don't have Bruno number 1 you shouldn't be able to put out an opinion. Most of the others are good, and Savage and the rest deserve it, but Bruno is number 1 and Backlund is number 2. Hall of Fame's are supposed to be about history.
Posted By: Dan (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:15 AM
I find it ridicilous that no one mentioned the British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith, or even the British Bulldogs as a team. Davey had a great career and is one of the greatest to never hold a world title, and the bulldogs as a team had some of the greatest tag team matches ever with the hart foundation
Posted By: phildecapito (Registered) on April 08, 2009 at 12:25 AM
paul heyman, joey styles and mike awesome
Posted By: so sue me (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Benoit gave up his right to be in the hall of fame when he murdered his wife and kid. Fuck you Michael, and don't push that him killing his family is a minor thing.
Posted By: Greenie (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Would all of you crybabies quit moaning about Koko Ware already... you useless MARKS are the reason wrestling fans get looked down on. It's a fucking FAKE sport, assholes. Grow the up and GET OVER IT!
Posted By: Funky Freddy Feelgood (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:54 AM
The day I get mad over ANY person inducted into a Hall-of-Fame centered around a carny sideshow is the day I eat a bullet... because I would never be able to look at myself in the mirror knowing my life was SO pathetic that something SO unconsequential would cause me that much distress.
Posted By: Funky Freddy Feelgood (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:01 AM
Hey, if Koko B ware can get in the hall of fame then why not Benoit? If jobbers can get in then why not muderers?
Posted By: Aladdin Jones (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:07 AM
King Kong Bundy? The man Main Evented WM2. If CoCo B Ware gets in KKB should be in.
Big John Studd also
I agree. But check your facts, BJS already in HOF. Was inducted a couple years ago.
Posted By: The Real Big John (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:13 AM
big benoit fan for wrestling...think his wiring in his head got screwed up and it wasn't his choice or totally his fault....he is a hall of famer in my mind....he will never get there...and he shouldn't for many reasons other than wrestling....and that's fine...I'll watch my benoit dvd...it would be too painful for the family alone even if malenko gave a speech....and that's a good enough reason if there was any...
Posted By: focus and zoom (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:15 AM
There should be a special jobber wing with Iron Mike Sharpe, Brooklyn Brawler, Barry Horowitz.
Posted By: David (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:52 AM
The difference between OJ and Benoit is OJ was long out of football, and already in the HOF by the time he "allegedly" killed Ron & Nichole.
Benoit's history as one of the all around best wrestlers will never be recognized because he ended his career with a double murder/suicide.
Posted By: Spaz Monkey (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:53 AM
OJ isn't a child murderer. According to the state, he isn't a murderer at all.
Posted By: NorTheGreat (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:54 AM
Eric Bischoff
Paul Heyman
Ted DiBiase
Arn & Tully (easily the greatest tag team ever)
Randy Savage.
Posted By: Kip (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:56 AM
Sting is never getting in unless he Plays ball
i say quit TNA go wrestle in the WWE for year give us the Mandatory matches with Taker and HBK then go wait by ur phone Sting
Posted By: Hound89 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:10 AM
Can't believe Byers doesn't have Sting or Savage on the list. Anyway you can throw Foley on the hall of fame list along with Vader, Rude, Owen and Stu Hart. Bruno is obviously another guy that belongs on the list. Heyman and Cornette are other good picks. Is Gorilla Monsoon in the hall? If not he should be in too. No thanks to child and wife killer Benoit being in the hall.
Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:15 AM
The Steiners, Road Warriors, and Arn Anderson as well as Tully Blanchard and Barry Windham are good choices too. Ole Anderson deserves to get in too. Brian Pillman and The British Bulldogs are great choices too.
Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:19 AM
Rock N Roll Express deserve entry too. The Midnight Express would be deserving as well.
Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:23 AM
I have read on this site in the columns and the comments sections that Benoit will eventually be honored. It will never happen. Not in 5 years, not in 50 years. He left the biggest black eye on wrestling in its entire history. The WWE would be crucified for ever honoring him in any way.
Posted By: tg1977 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:32 AM
Only one person mentions Owen Hart?
Posted By: Guest#3476 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:59 AM
Benoit gave up his right to be in the hall of fame when he murdered his wife and kid. Fuck you Michael, and don't push that him killing his family is a minor thing.
Posted By: Greenie (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Way to go and put words in Michael's mouth. He didn't even come close to saying the murders were a "minor thing," not even close! He said the killings are the reason he hasn't been and/or may never be considered.
Don't come into comment boxes and try to play hero when there's no villainry... it makes you look incredibly stupid.
Posted By: A-Ron (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 04:25 AM
Come on now, Bauer. Are you just trying to get some cheap heat? "And before you give me that he killed his family crap"... Seriously? Its not because of his WRESTLING credentials you put him number one on your list. Its because he is a murderer and its a daring, oh-so shocking selection. I don't want to see anymore Benoit tribute crippler crossfaces on my TV and I don't want to read that he deserves to be in the HOF either.
Posted By: Brian (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 04:54 AM
Bruno should be at the top of the list, but he doesn't want in. Still should be honored somehow. Right is right.
Macho Man should be in. Why is he not already?
Honky Tonk Man belongs there. Ultimate Warrior too.
There are others, but I'd like to see those who helped make WWE what it is today get into the WWE Hall Of Fame first. These four are at the top of the list in my opinion.
Posted By: Guy Incognito (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 05:03 AM
Not one vote for Honky Tonk Man, WTF?
This column = EPIC FAIL
Posted By: Guest#6574 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 05:38 AM
Chris Benoit will most likely never enter the WWE Hall of Fame. That doesn't change what he did over his career, though. When all is said and done, I will probably never see a better technical wrestler. I've had this handle on AIM for over 12 years now, so you can see where I'm coming from. I will never change the name, and I will never change my opinion on the magnificent work he did inside the ring.
Bruno, Savage, Road Warriors, Inoki, DiBiase -- in that order.
Posted By: CanadianCrippler (Registered) on April 08, 2009 at 06:12 AM
No Honky Tonk Man? Only one vote (a 5 spot) for Demolition? You guys suck
Posted By: Jonesy (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 07:30 AM
If you're #1 choice isn't Randy Savage, you are a piece of garbage. I'm sorry. He drew too much, he was thea absolute best wrestler of his era(sorry, Steamboat, Dynamite Kid, and Flair), he carried so many stiffs that it doesn't make sense(1 4 1/2 star match with Warrior), fun mic style, a symbol of the 80s-early 90s...he's one of the absolute ever. He should of been in there from the onset like Andre was and he's the outside waiting in while Koko B Ware and Flair..a guy who in YEARS after him gets in? Horrible. Despicable. Bruno is another natural choice but he doesn't want it. Rick Rude, Ted Dibiase, Jake the fucking Snake Roberts...these are TRUE Hall of Famers. Vince needs to get his shit together and stop the lame choices game.
Posted By: Erik (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 07:32 AM
La Parka
Norman Smiley
Papa Shango/Kama/Godfather/Goodfather
Nathan Jones
ECW Zombie
Book it! NOW
Posted By: snubbed (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 07:39 AM
Michael Bauer! ::::standing ovation::::
I applaud your courage in this and COMPLETELY agree with you. Whatever was done OUTSIDE the ring, what Chris Benoit did INSIDE the ring is VERY HOF worthy.
Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 09:16 AM
"Ok, let the hate flow, but let's face it, Chris Benoit's WRESTLING career is Hall of Fame worthy. And before you give me that he killed his family crap, tell me how he is any different than O.J. Simpson still being in the NFL Hall of Fame. And O.J. did a lot more than Benoit ever did outside of the sport"
OJ Simpson was convicted for murder? Oh wait, he was tried by his peers and found innocent. It is all but proven that Benoit did what he did. There's no comparison.
Posted By: CyberSocko (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 09:19 AM
Here's a fookin crazy thought: Maybe the NFL isn't the greatest moral compass in the world for who should or shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. It'll never happen, Officer Doofy. Maybe you should use your action figures to stage a Hall of Fame induction in Benoit's honor.
Posted By: Groot (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 09:28 AM
Benoit the most deserving? I'd say he was probably borderline at best, and that was before he killed his family. But you are just trying to be edgy, I get it.
As far as the Hall of Fame and worthy inductees are concerned, at the rate were going, the Red Rooster is a shoe-in.
Posted By: Guest#8033 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 09:55 AM
I think Gilberg should be inducted. And the man to induct him should be Goldberg. Now that would be fun to watch!
I see Savage getting bumped to second if McMahon can get the Rock for that same year. Unfortunately, I don't see Savage getting the whole glory ala StoneCold and Hogan in previous years.
Posted By: Oscar (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 09:59 AM
ONly one person mentioned Vader, hee needs to get some love, quite simply one of the best big men, who main evented for WCW and WWF ...
Also, Mike Rotundo, multiple tag and IC champ, who has built a solid, yet unspectacular resume, should get a nod ...
After letting Koko B ware in, they really just left the door open for all mid-carders to receive consideration..
Posted By: protecttheinnocent (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Why would Sting be inducted in the WWE Hall of Fame if he's never wrestled for them?
Posted By: Guest#4636 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:20 AM
1)Randy Savage
2)Sting
3)Owen Hart
4)Vader
5)Rick Rude
Posted By: jbardo (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:22 AM
And where the hell is King Kong Brody or Stan Hansen? None of you numb-nuts mentioned the true frontrunners of all out hardcore brawling. When the Road Warriors were sixth grade punks Brody and Hansen were doing whatever the hell they wanted to whoever the hell they wanted to do it to. They were the ones who scared the living shit out of me when I was a kid. WWE needs to recognize Brody and Hansen ASAP.
Posted By: chucky (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Randy Savage
The Rock
Chris Benoit
Dean Malenko
Legion of Doom
Dudley Boys/Team 3D
Sting
Kevin Nash & Scott Hall - Outsiders
Bruno Sammartino
Goldberg
Demolition
The Hart Family
Kurt Angle
Mick Foley
Ron Simmons
JBL
Eric Bischoff
Paul Heyman
Posted By: Da-Bombbb (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Vincent McMahon will never be allowed in after he injected the lethal dose of poison into the WWF in 2002. They haven't been the same since.
Posted By: JF (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Hey, Funky Freddy Feelgood, it's INconsequential, not UNconsequential. If you're gonna' bitch about wrestling fans on a wrestling site you might as well spell correctly.
Posted By: Jonathan (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Yeah, man! That's bullshit Benoit ain't in the HOF! The fuckin' Combine and their hatred of double murder/suicide is BULLSHIT!
Posted By: Charlie Manson (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Numbers 1,2,3,4,5 The Rock - Hello!!! The only man anywhere near Hogan and Austin for transending the sport & Popularity. Only ever appeared in WWF/WWE. Plus its a good way to get him back on tv.
Posted By: Steve-0 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:57 AM
mr. X = the fucking man! Owen hart. Nuff said'
Posted By: beezy428 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:06 AM
yeah no to chris benoit... mentioning him is an asshole thing to do, you just wanted some comments... well you got them... you suck
Posted By: b316 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Hey Larry, besides awesome WoW ads, Mr T is also doing Snickers ads, at least in the UK, still awesome :-)
Posted By: Robin (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:21 AM
thanks koko for lowering the bar
now every idiot thats ever laced up the boots for this company will have a valid argument why they should be in the hall too
i fuckin hate all hall of fames, in any sport or business
it'll always give people shit to bitch about
Posted By: sad man, its just sad (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:30 AM
1. Randy Savage
2. Jake the Snake
3. Ted Debiase
4. Bob Backlund
5. Road Warriors
Posted By: Adam (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Benoit isn't going to happen and he sure as hell isn't the #1 guy to be inducted into the HoF. Comments already pointed out the OJ/Benoit comparison so I'll leave that alone.
I think Brune, Bischoff, Savage are the big names to be added. Hell I throw in Sting. And I'd love for the Sting to be the best (or most popular) wrestler to never wrestle in the WWF/E.
Posted By: Guest#2453 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:39 AM
2010 indctess:
arn anderson
the road warriors
demoltion
trish stratus
Jeff Jarrett (if vince lets TNA accepted
Sting (same thing in TNA)
Posted By: Matthew (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:45 AM
"...you give me that he killed his family crap"
So, yeah, A-Ron- he DID make like the murder was a "minor thing". Bringing it up is "crap", you see.
Bauer's a douchebag.
You are a douchebag's apologist
Posted By: Guest#1517 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Benoit was hall of fame bound before the tragedy. I am the biggest Benoit fan you'll find on this site. Let's face it, Vince won't induct him into the hall of fame because if he ever did, can you imagine someone indcting him, and saying how great he was, there are always going to be people in the live crowd that are going to be just quiet. In other words, it would be too awkward. Plus we know Vince is a pussy, so he won't do it. But he's number 1 on my list too.
Posted By: technicalwrestlersrule (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:54 AM
not enough love for Jake the Snake...
Posted By: Ser Drake (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:55 AM
I know Ted's Business manager personally, and he said that Ted will NEVER be inducted into the Hall of Fame. He did Sherri's induction as a personal favor to her but because of Ted's religious beliefs, he won;t accept a HoF position because he doesn't want to be linked to WWE.
Posted By: Guest#6625 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Savage, Sammartino, Michaels, Undertaker and The Rock are all potential hall of fame event 'headliners'.
Then there is the likes of Dibease, Jake the Snake, LOD, Demolition, British Bulldogs, Martel, Santana, Backlund, Owen Hart, Sable, Liz and Wendi Richter to go in.
I just dread to think what'll happen on 5-6 years when they've ran out of people to induct.
Posted By: WWE hall of fame (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Former 2 time WWE champ, 2 time WCW champ
Main evented 2 wrestlemanias against Hogan and Undertaker
Main evented ppvs against sting, bret, hbk, nash
Former 4 horsemen
1st person to use the powerbomb
Ruler of the world
SID
Posted By: sid (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:20 PM
You know, I have had a change of heart. Who cares about Benoit's inconsequential crimes? He should be in the HOF, just because he was really good. Many is the time I sat at home and felt like I wanted to kill myself becaue of my tiny penis, my unending loneliness, my disgusting morbid obesity, and my stomach-churning B.O. Benoit matches made me happy, he was so good! And like me, he lacked any charisma or teeth. I mean, Hitler was Time's Man of the Year! So why can't Benoit be in the Hall of Fame???? It would do my stutter a world of good if he was... WAITAMINUTE!
Sorry, everyone. I thought I was Michael Bauer for a minute there...
Posted By: Groot (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Savage
Bruno
Vader - Outside of a very good match with Michaels he didn't do much in wwe, but his WCW and Japan career stands head and shoulders above a lot of the current HoF members.
Backland
Lou Thesz
Benoit - WWE: World/IC/US/tag team
WCW: World/US/TV/tag team
ECW: tag team
NJPW: Jr heavyweight
J-Cup tourney winner
Not to mention his influence on the industry that can be seen in the three biggest promotions in America pretty much cements his status as a HoFamer.
But the Observer Hall Of Fame has already tried(and failed)to remove Benoit from their list as he was inducted years ago.
Posted By: K. Bett (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Prince Iaukea (inducted by Glacier)
Maven (inducted by Moondog Rex)
Darren Drozdov (inducted by S. Hawking)
Krusher Krushchev (inducted by Chaz)
Chuck Palumbo (inducted by David Samartino)
Posted By: Lucky (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Sting is never getting in unless he Plays ball
i say quit TNA go wrestle in the WWE for year give us the Mandatory matches with Taker and HBK then go wait by ur phone Sting
Posted By: Hound89 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:10 AM
Yeah whatever. Sting is one of the biggest stars in wrestling history. If he doesn't get into the WWE hall of fame it won't change anything and won't take away his accomplishments. TNA can start their own hall of fame down the line and put guys like him and Cornette in.
Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:59 PM
just imagine the induction speech for Benoit by Dean Malenko........"well, he killed his wife and his son..but today we honor his talent.."
bauer please die
Posted By: armin (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:03 PM
Stan Hansen
Greg "The Hammer" Valentine
Kevin Sullivan
Shane Douglas
Eddie Gilbert
Posted By: Cold Feet (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:04 PM
Thanks for the Benoit love Bauer...glad someone still realizes how awesome he was.
Whoever said Goldberg gets shot.
Thank God no one said The Rock...6 years wrestling does not a Hall of Famer make.
And NO ONE SAID THE FREEBIRDS?! WTF!
Posted By: Ramsey (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:17 PM
No votes for Rick Rude????
Posted By: Kevin (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:21 PM
J-E-double F J-A-double R-E-T does not belong in the HOF. His dad on the other hand, does.
Posted By: Alan (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:36 PM
i would love to also see bob uecker go in eventually, he was very funny on the mic at wm 3 and 4
Posted By: kc (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 01:39 PM
ravishing rick rude
Posted By: rude fan (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:02 PM
I was a Koko fan in the 80's. Not to sound racist at all but seriously wasn't he kind of the Token Black Guy for the awards show this year.
Posted By: Guest#7116 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:09 PM
My Top 5 and honorable mentions:
HM #1 - Owen Hart
HM #2- Ron Simmons
HM #3- British Bulldog/Davey Boy Smith
#5 - Eric Bischoff - ALmost Killed WWF in 90's..something no other promotion came close to doing ( shame on the fingerpoke of doom)
#4 - Ted DiBiase - Only saw what he did in WWF..one of the most hated heels in my mind. Could count on him to have a great match with anybody
#3 - Macho Man Randy Savage - In my opinion was only second to Hogan in terms of populatiry..whether he was a face or heel. He drew you into his matches, set the new standard for pure athleticism.
#2 - LOD - Now that I have seen their earlier matches ( thanks to 24/7 on demand) in NWA before WWF..they were true bad asses. Intimidating to look at with the spiked shoulder pads..even more intimidating to be in the ring with. Its a shame they didnt have that Demolition match we ALL wanted to see.
#1 - Bruno Sanmartino - Hatred with Vince aside..this guy WAS the WWF back in the 70's. Longest title reign in WWF history, over 40 straight sold out events at MSG. If it wasnt for this guy..i dont think the WWF would have gotten a chance to make it to the first wrestlemania ( take that hogaan ). Hell if it wasnt for him...who knows...we might still be in territories ( yes i kno its far from the truth...but thats just my opinion)
Posted By: Maurice (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:10 PM
Bruno and Bob Backlund were both invited to be part of the HOF, but both declined the invite. I think Backlund did because he feels his career is not over and I think Bruno hates Vince McMahon.
Posted By: Puff (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:13 PM
I'm shock Sid, British Bulldog, Rick Rude, Shane Douglas (he did great things for ECW), Raven ( or should I say Johnny Polo, King Kong Bundy, Kevin Nash, Razor Ramon, Vader (who almost lost his eye in a fatal four way match with Bret Hart, Undertar, and stone cold for the WWE championship), and just for a short laugh what about Doink the Clown.
Posted By: Steven Byrd (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:18 PM
5. Elizabeth
4. Jake Roberts
3. Ted Dibiase
2. Randy Savage
1. Bruno Sammartino
Now for some people that are more than deserving as well: Kamala, Bob Ueker, Road Warriors, Jim Cornette, Wendi Richter, Mr.T, Cyndi Lauper, Sunny, Abdullah the Butcher, Honky Tonk Man, King Kong Bundy, One Man Gang/Akeem...
Posted By: Piperfan01 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:19 PM
If you posted a comment that said 'If you don't have X in your list/at number one' you shouldn't be allowed to comment.
It's an opinion, assholes.
Posted By: Rachel (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:24 PM
*sigh*...What are your guys infactuation with VINCE MCMAHON'S Pro Wrestling HOF?
Aren't you guys forgeting about the ACTUAL PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING HALL OF FAME?!!
Good god! The ONLY reason why Vince has this up is due to the fact that he could make FRIGGIN' MONEY OFF OF IT! As in other words, it's shit!
He wants to honor the guys who made HIM money anyways. So right off the bat, it's biased. Secondly, he wants to honor HIS wrestlers. So, no, even in your WILDEST DREAMS will you see ANYONE ELSE but WWE wrestlers getting inducted. So, get off the opinion that VKM's HOF is ANYWHERE as important as the REAL one.
How about this? Go to this website, and give honor to the REAL HOF:
http://www.pwhf.org/
(P.S.- BTW, YES, someone DID manage to piss in my Cherios. And the people that did are the ones who ACTUALLY devalue the SPORT by creating the CRAP and you guys making it something more than THE REAL FRIGGIN' THING!!!)
Posted By: Paul (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:40 PM
Greetings,
I have never held the name Gorgeous George mentioned for the Hall of Fame. He was ahead of his time with regards to "sports entertainment" vs. professional wrestling.
John Nelson
Posted By: John Nelson (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:41 PM
Now that Koko Ware is finally in will Norvell Austin be next?
Posted By: GA Fan (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:53 PM
Now that Koko Ware is finally in will Norvell Austin be next?
Posted By: GA Fan (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 02:53 PM
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Yes! Some love for the Pretty Young Things!
Posted By: Guest#7471 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 04:25 PM
1) Owen Hart
2) Davey Boy Smith/ Dynamite Kid (British Bulldogs)
3) Randy Savage
4) The Undertaker
5) Ted "Million Dollar Man" DiBiase
Posted By: J-X Boxer (The Smug One) (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 04:34 PM
Yeah whatever. Sting is one of the biggest stars in wrestling history. If he doesn't get into the WWE hall of fame it won't change anything and won't take away his accomplishments. TNA can start their own hall of fame down the line and put guys like him and Cornette in.
Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 12:59 PM
LOL TNA hall of Fame, that would be about as Prestigious as me presenting u with Golden Plated Shit
Sting May be one of the best but he wont be Recognized as such, and He wont get any of his WCW matches on DVD unless he wrestles for WWE, this is FACT
Posted By: Hound89 (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 04:55 PM
It amazes me that Landsall and Bauer are still allowed to write for this site. I understand the HOF isn't on the same level as, say, the MLB HOF, but if Benoit or Jarrett ever get in, I'll run through Denver naked in January.
Posted By: Sink (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 04:58 PM
Bruno
Ivan Koloff
Larry Zbysko
Stan Hansen
Bruiser Brody
Fabulous Freebirds
Midnight Express
Rock n Roll Express
Jim Cornette
Paul Heyman
Posted By: OID (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 05:15 PM
My awesome homies, dawgs and heroes LOD didn't have to be the best men in the ring. They wouldn't have looked doing right doing off the top rope moves, or crossbody blocks or high-flyer stuff, technical stuff. Their style fit their image and their physiques. They were two bad ass dudes who went in a beat you up. They didn't have to have a Dean Malenko move-set. If they were still a team today, I'd gladly volunteer for their finisher.
OOOOOH WHAT A RUSSHH !
Posted By: Chico (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 05:19 PM
Great Muta and Abdullah the Butcher are also two wrestlers who should be inducted, but won't be.
Posted By: JLAJRC (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 05:45 PM
The bottom line is this, Chris "I Murdered My Wife and Child and Took The Cowards Way Out" Benoit, will NEVER be in the Hall Of Fame, nor does he deserve to be.
Posted By: AndreFan (Registered) on April 08, 2009 at 05:53 PM
"before you give me that he killed his family crap, tell me how he is any different than O.J. Simpson still being in the NFL Hall of Fame."
Lol, turns out lots of people gave you plenty of reasons why it's different.
I think if you are listing the greatest Mania matches, best wrestling debuts, favourite feuds etc you can talk about Benoit in there as you are talking about the Rabid Wolverine, but putting him in the hall of fame glorifies a murderer.
I know you are being a troll and mentioned him to get a rise out of us (my proof being that even if you DO think he should be inducted, nobody in their right mind would have him over Sammartino or Savage) but I had to comment.
And this is coming from someone who's favourite wrestler ever was Chris Benoit and someone who's favourite wrestling matches is him vs Angle at the Rumble and who's favourite wrestling moment was the end of Mania XX.
Posted By: Tim (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 06:49 PM
3 Top Wrestlers who come to mind...
#1: Randy Savage - Without a doubt, the hardest worker in the company during the 80's and early 90's.
#2: Demolition - Longest reigning Tag Team Champions in WWE history...and this during the time when the tag team division was at it's strongest....EVER.
#3: Vader - Leon White was the best big man in the sport and probably the most feared...aside from Andre The Giant. He deserves being in the Hall Of Fame...maybe not on his brief stint in the WWE, but from what accomplishments he's had over a very successful career in WCW & Japan. Legend.....period.
Posted By: MorbidTerror (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 07:18 PM
My Personal top 5:
5: Davey Boy Smith
4: Ted Dibiase
3: Ultimate Warrior (sure he's a dick, couldn't work & was very unprofessional but who didn't mark like crazy for this guy when you were a kid? Hell, if his music hit on Raw I'd jump up & down like a 9 year old! How much money did that equal for the WWF?)
2: Honky Tonk Man (Such an impact that they still mention him from time to time. Anyone remember the honk-a-meter a few months ago? Let him in!)
1: Randy Savage
Posted By: buckley (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 07:33 PM
What about the most electrifying man in sports entertainment history?
Posted By: kingofhearts (Registered) on April 08, 2009 at 09:00 PM
Wow you guys dont know your wrestling do you?
How can you forget...
MIKE ADAMLE!
Posted By: aknvea (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Road Warriors [LOD],the late Yokozuna forner 2 time WWE champ. i doubt they'll ever induct Benoit, Sapphire will be inducted before the Rabid Wolverine ever will.
Posted By: Scott (Guest) on April 08, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Benoit is not a hall of famer. What did he do to impact the sport? What did he inspire. Was he good yes. Legendary. No. and HE KILLED HIS FAMILY ASSHOLE.
Posted By: Guest#4970 (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 04:39 AM
Marty Jannetty should be on that list.
Posted By: Picone44 (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 12:58 PM
I think we all can agree that Randy Savage should be in the Hall of Fame but did any of us think that maybe that is his decision Ala Bruno? They jsut ried to induct him into that "other" wrestling hall of fame and he turned them down. When was the last time he has even done a wrestling intrerview? Maybe that is why Vince first scrapped the Macho DVD. Maybe he wanted to do a documentary with it and Randy turned him down?
Posted By: The JAP (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 04:39 PM
Cyndi Lauper deserves to be in the "Celebrity Wing" of the Hall-of-Fame as much as (if not more than) Mr.T.
Her feud with Roddy Piper was the catalyst for the whole Rock N' Wrestling movement.
Hogan, Mr. T, Orndorf, Orton, Snuka, Wendi Richter, Moolah, Lelani Kai... all of that (the very FOUNDATION of the first WrestleMania) all resulted from Piper pushing Lauper to the mat and smashing the award over Captain Lou's head MONTHS earlier in Madison Square Garden.
Posted By: David Burcham (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 06:35 PM
Here is my top 5
5: Road Warriors. Dominating team
4: The 4 horseman. One of the best stables of all time deserve to go in together
3: Midnight Express. Why shouldn't Sweet Stan, Dennis Condery and Bobby Eaton get their due? Multi time champs
2: Sting. I doubt it would happen in the WWE but he deserves it
1: Bruno Sanmartino. Long-time champ I wish he and Vince could mend their relationship so it could happen
Posted By: Erik W (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 11:01 PM
A guy named Landsall writes for the site? Cool!
Posted By: Lansdellicious (Registered) on April 10, 2009 at 10:14 AM
What?..No Wahoo McDaniel..The man who gave Ric Flair his first main event matches? Throw in Gene and Ole (And Lars)Anderson plus Paul Jones and Jay Youngblood. Ref. Tommy Young too. Even the Crockett family .
Posted By: ronevsorg (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM
To be fair to Koko, Nikolai Volkoff had already set the bar fairly low for HOFers.
Savage, Sammartino, Backlund, and Road Warriors are all layups to eventually get in. Even if it ends up being posthomously. I believe Vince is waiting for Animal's son to actually become a NFL linebacker so he can cash in on having him induct the LOD. Hansen, Brody, and Owen also deserve the nod. Arn, Tully, and Windham should go in as the Horseman (inducted by Flair.) Jake Roberts, Rick Martel (former AWA Champ and multiple time WWF tag champ), Vader, Heyman, Jim Cornette, and the British Bulldogs also deserve the nod. Also, Honky Tonk Man was a heat machine and definitely deserves to go in next year.
Posted By: You wanna piece of me Stid? (Guest) on April 11, 2009 at 08:01 AM