The Vile One's Dungeon: WrestleMania XXV Live Report
Posted by Jeffrey Harris on 04.09.2009
The Vile One was live at Reliant for the big show this year.
I got to the arena early to check out the pre-show media question and answer session with Ricky Steamboat, Ric Flair, and Mickey Rourke. Rourke called Jericho a piece of shit and talked a lot about how much fun he had learning about wrestling in working on The Wrestler. Ric Flair talked about what a great performer Rourke is and what great friends they became. Flair considers Rourke to be up there with Marlon Brando. When asked about a movie being made about Flair's life, Flair said Brad Pitt would have to gain about 50 pounds. When I asked Ricky Steamboat about returning to the ring, Steamboat said he was regularly working in the ring and planning matches with the boys for years and he constantly kept training and keeping himself in shape. Steamboat said compared to when he was wrestling if he could put a number on it, he felt 80%.
Following the press conference, I went down to my seat on the lower level instead of opting for the press box space. My friends and I had pretty goods seats and a nice view of the ring. Much better than the floor seats in the back. Before the event started, I walked around a little so I could get some pictures close to the ring. In the process I also encountered the one and only Sign Guy.
Surprisingly enough the show began with The Colons vs. Miz and Morrison for the Tag Team Title Unification Match. None of us had any idea this was relegated as a pre-show/DVD dark match, when many were expecting this one to be a part of the main card to steal the show. They also made it a lumberjack match so a bunch of other guys who didn't make it on the card could be a part of "Mania." Pretty lame that this match was relegated to before the official card so Kid Rock could have more time.
The show finally begins in a great opening with the roster reflecting on the most significant moments in Mania history and how they want to be a part of it. Show kicks off with the fifth annual Money In The Bank Ladder match. A lot of people thought Mark Henry had no business being in there, but he played his role well. Christian Cage was definitely the fan favorite to win. Some really good, surprising spots. Kofi Kingston probably pulled the more impressive spots this year, a role that usually goes to Shelton Benjamin in this match. The finish was pretty surprising with Punk winning. No way did I feel that he had any chance of winning this match. That Punk sure does like staying in the dog house.
CM Punk is Money In The Bank for the second year in a row.
Kid Rock came out for his dull, dated rock music so it was time to get some concessions. By the time I came back, the music was STILL playing. The Bimbo Brawl started and we didn't even really know who was in there except "Santina Marella." The stuff with Santino was funny especially the dancing after he won, but still this was not worth relegating the tag team title match which could've been a potential show stealer. This match also could've been placed later instead of putting the two title matches straight after HBK/Taker.
So Jericho vs. The Legends was up. My friends and I totally marked out when we realized that Mickey Rourke was sitting next to Frank Shamrock. Mickey Rourke said in the press conference before that the insurance companies would in no way allow Rourke to step into the ring or get into some sort of brawl with Jericho. OK. Steamboat was by far the best part of the match, but from the looks of the TV video screens, they missed his skin the cat spot near the end of the match. The match played out how it should. Jericho cleanly beat all three guys and then Jericho finally confronted Rourke, and Rourke knocked him out. I thought it worked. Match was OK for what it was, but honestly they should've just done Jericho vs. Steamboat for just 10 minutes. That would've been more awesome.
The video package for Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy was very well done. I feel they did a great job of building the match up, unfortunately the match didn't really quite measure to the high standard of the buildup. The match by far was an improvement over Hardy vs. Hardy at Vengeance 2001 which was disappointing. Some good spots and some good bumps in this brawl, but when they brought out the vacuum cleaner . . . what the hell? I mean its hard considering Matt and Jeff have been in some of the sickest spotfests in the modern wrestling age. I'm glad Matt is finally wearing wrestling tights. The finish was great with the Twist of Fate through the chair and Matt beating Jeff as clean as possible in a No DQ bout. The problem? This should've been a world title match. Jeff should've never lost the world title. This could've been an awesome, fresh main event world title bout. Instead WWE booking went back to an all too tired well.
HBK in the ring after his epic entrance to end all Wrestlemania entrances.
The stadium darkened before HBK/Undertaker was set to take place. You could see Michaels being elevated in during the video package. The entrance and atmosphere for this match was amazing. The match got going and it was absolutely awesome, definitely a career best for both guys. I thought the match was going to end prematurely after Undertaker's sick head first dive to the floor. Then Michaels brought the ref in and it looked like he was trying to just get the count out victory. That should've been the first sign he was going to lose when he pulled a wussy move like that. The match was great, but I think it went about five minutes too long. My friends and I went apeshit when HBK kicked out of the Last Ride and the Tombstone. The Tombstone definitely looked like it could've been the finish. The other problem is HBK doing his lame slow to cover pins which made the kick outs a lot more predictable and way less dramatic. Not a ***** match of the year candidate but definitely in the **** range. For my money, KENTA/Richards that weekend was my more favored match.
What was the big mistake? The show blew the wad after this match. The crowd had pretty much died. They tried to get worked up for Cena/Big Show/Edge, but they just started losing interest and stopped caring. Fans livened up a little for the finish where we almost saw Cena pull off a double FU on both Edge and Show. Cena wins the world title . . . again. Look, I'm no Cena hater. I like Cena, and I think Cena can have some really good matches. But c'mon. This was a lame sitcom feud where the world title was almost an after-thought. We really should've had Matt vs. Jeff as a world title match that could've elevated that feud to an Owen/Bret level. Edge/Show/Cena seemed like a waste of time and another excuse to put a new world title belt on Cena. Last year it felt like Show was returning to become a huge deal. That boat has now sailed.
Before the main event was the mini-ceremony to recognize the Class of 2009 Hall of Famers, and all the guests from the night before came out on stage, and Stone Cold Steve Austin was given a special entrance. Austin came to the ring for one last beer bash to so fans could say goodbye to Stone Cold one last time, for good. Much like the night before, this was I imagine Stone Cold closing the book on his wrestling career and doing it one last time at Mania for the fans.
Things went further south with the main event. I was so excited about the Orton era finally beginning and Orton winning the world title. I think going an Orton/HHH route was a little weird. HHH/Orton already had so many matches before and now they were doing it "for real" where HHH is now a McMahon and Orton is targeting the McMahons. The problem? This became a bad TNA main event. Orton/HHH were having this boiling, bloody, personal feud and yet the match is this dull, boring "wrestling" match. Wrestling is fine but Orton and HHH didn't bring the intensity. They didn't bring the heat. Say what you want about ROH or KENTA and Davey Richards, but in their 20 minute classic they made you feel the hatred. They made you feel the kicks and the chops and the near falls. Orton and HHH totally dogged it and it looked like they just didn't care. They could clearly see that they were losing the crowd. Fans were getting up and leaving, and they even started doing the wave. This was Jericho/HHH from Wrestlemania 18 all over again, probably even worse. HHH wins in the worst fashion possible. None of us could believe that was the finish. It was so random and there was no rhythm.
Overall it was a decent show that ended on a low note. I'm not saying HBK/Undertaker needed to be the main event. But at Wrestlemani X7, the show started with a lot of energy and they managed to keep that energy up the whole show throughout the main event. This show lost all of its energy after HBK vs. Undertaker. The world title matches were a disappointment, and WWE ruined something big with Randy Orton. And that's why this feels like TNA now. TNA ruins many of their big moments and opportunities. I hope they can salvage Orton now, but this HHH/Orton feud was a colossal error and a giant mistake. HHH is terrible as a world champion right now, and he's terrible as a top babyface. He can't let go of his Wrestlemania main event spot or step aside. He should know better since he didn't bury Batista or Cena at Wrestlemania. He put them over because that was what was best for business at the time.
It was a good weekend for wrestling, but as far as Wrestlemania goes, X7 had it over this one in spades. But it was fun to have two Wrestlemanias in my hometown in less than decade.
KENTA/Richards that weekend was my more favored match.
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BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH...
i love iwc workrate freaks.
Posted By: Sivpac (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Where are the pics?
Posted By: Mile Jackson (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 12:24 PM
KENTA/Richards better than Taker/HBK...okay, noted.
Posted By: Ryushinku (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 12:49 PM
"For my money, KENTA/Richards that weekend was my more favored match."
Are you fucking kidding me? Two guys flipping and flopping around in front of 200 people in a match that no one cares about was better than Taker/HBK?
Posted By: Foolio (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 01:26 PM
KENTA/Richards that weekend was my more favored match.
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BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH...
i love iwc workrate freaks.
Posted By: Sivpac (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 12:22 PM
and I hate people who only think the WWE maters because they are the biggest company while guys like Davey Richards are busting their ass off to make a name for themselves. Or do you not realize HBK and Taker used to be in Richards position?
Posted By: Curtis (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 01:31 PM
That last pic...the geek personified
Posted By: christiansbale (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 01:31 PM
It has nothing to do with workrate and everything to do with Richards playing the greatest heel of all time on Friday night.
Posted By: Jeffrey Harris (Registered) on April 09, 2009 at 01:34 PM
What the fuck is a KENTA? No way this no-name indy/japanese nobody could put on a better match than MR WRESTLEMANIA and the Deadman!
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 01:39 PM
KENTA is the single greatest wrestler on the planet and the Dead Man and Mr. Wrestlemania aren't good enough to tie his boots. The man has also gone toe to toe with Kenta Kobashi and Misawa.
Believe it or not wrestling exists in other parts of the world, and some of these no name indy/Japanese jobbers actually know their way in the ring pretty well.
Posted By: Jeffrey Harris (Registered) on April 09, 2009 at 01:56 PM
I enjoyed the read but **** for Taker/Shawn and saying there was a better match that weekend (and I say this as an ROH fan) is just wrong.
Posted By: Steinershocker (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 01:59 PM
I glad you had a good time Jeff. Don't worry about these wwe fans making stupid and idiotic comments. They are keyboard warriors no different from the people who post on sherdog.
Posted By: WrestlingFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:16 PM
I don't think this can honestly be blamed on Triple H, this is the fault of the way they booked it if anything. It was booked where Triple H had to win basically, plus Cena/Edge/Show was just built so terribly they couldn't have it main event, which further consolidated the fact Triple H must win -_-. Now if they would just put Shawn/Taker last this wouldn't be needed, but they would never do that for some reason.
Posted By: Logic . . . (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:19 PM
never judge something until you've seen it, I haven't seen kenta/richards, so until I do get the chance to, i'll never know if it was better or worse than taker/hbk. This may come as a shock to some but......there actually are other wrestling companies.
Posted By: cj (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:21 PM
Is it me or does Jeff look like the angry video game nerd.
Posted By: Guest#6466 (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:22 PM
So Jericho vs. The Legends was up. My friends and I totally marked out when we realized that Mickey Rourke was sitting next to Ken Shamrock
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Awh Shit ,he marked out for a guy who wasnt even there!
Posted By: steve0 (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:22 PM
Calling KENTA the best wrestler in the world = Acceptable due to the fact KENTA has enough proof on his resume this year alone to back that up.
Saying KENTA/Richards was your personal favorite match of the weekend = Acceptable due to the fact the match was damn near flawness except for the finish and that it is YOUR personal favorite match of the weekend.
Saying The Undertaker and Shawn Michaels couldn't lace up KENTA's boots = FUCKING RETARDED! KENTA is my favorite Puro wrestler and it was awesome to see him live but Taker and HBK are not only some of the best wrestlers in the world but are the Icons of the fucking sport! KENTA would possibly kill his Mother if he knew he could get in the ring with one of them and probably do the same to tie their shoes. Saying KENTA is probably going to go down as one of the all time greats is fine by me but never diminish Taker and HBk as not good enough.
Posted By: That guy (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:32 PM
KENTA is the single greatest wrestler on the planet and the Dead Man and Mr. Wrestlemania aren't good enough to tie his boots. The man has also gone toe to toe with Kenta Kobashi and Misawa.
Believe it or not wrestling exists in other parts of the world, and some of these no name indy/Japanese jobbers actually know their way in the ring pretty well.
Posted By: Jeffrey Harris (Registered) on April 09, 2009 at 01:56 PM
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Indy idiot. In the end, who is KENTA? A complete nobody, apart from in Japan, but they eat dogs so their opinion doesn't matter. More people have heard of, admire and believe Shawn Michaels and Undertaker are better, and KENTA, for that reason, couldn't lace their boots, which probably cost more money than he's ever made in his life.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:35 PM
I don't get why it further consolidated that HHH had to win at all. Heels came out winning the title in the final match of WMX7 and WM16, even though the heel one of those years was HHH (yup, HHH the first heel ever to walk out of the main event of Mania with the title).
Also, its pretty obvious that HHH has a lot of say in his booking and creative presentation. So he is at fault for how poorly the booking played out to a degree.
Posted By: Jeffrey (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:50 PM
Indy idiot. In the end, who is KENTA? A complete nobody, apart from in Japan, but they eat dogs so their opinion doesn't matter. More people have heard of, admire and believe Shawn Michaels and Undertaker are better, and KENTA, for that reason, couldn't lace their boots, which probably cost more money than he's ever made in his life.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:35 PM
The only idiot around here is you. Seriously, you do nothing but bash anything that is not WWE. You make the other wwe fans look stupid. Your actions are no different from neonazis or the ku klux klan. Go get a life you crybaby.
Posted By: WrestlingFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:59 PM
Indy idiot. In the end, who is KENTA? A complete nobody, apart from in Japan, but they eat dogs so their opinion doesn't matter. More people have heard of, admire and believe Shawn Michaels and Undertaker are better, and KENTA, for that reason, couldn't lace their boots, which probably cost more money than he's ever made in his life.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:35 PM
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Indy idiot is fine. Yay that more people admire Undertaker and Shawn Michaels. Good for them. That has nothing to do with my personal opinion.
Not to mention the fact that you have a racist, ignorant, and close-minded attitude about Japanese wrestlers.
Does KENTA's popularity come anywhere close to Undertaker and Michaels? Nowhere, not even a fraction. Undertaker and Michaels are world-renowned international superstars of their professions.
But to call KENTA a complete nobody when you have a crowd of 2,000 that are screaming their heads off for him and enjoying his work in the US that's pretty ridiculous. Its also ridiculous considering KENTA's worked in Mexico and Europe as well.
Posted By: Jeffrey (Registered) on April 09, 2009 at 03:26 PM
ndy idiot. In the end, who is KENTA? A complete nobody, apart from in Japan, but they eat dogs so their opinion doesn't matter. More people have heard of, admire and believe Shawn Michaels and Undertaker are better, and KENTA, for that reason, couldn't lace their boots, which probably cost more money than he's ever made in his life.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:35 PM
The only idiot around here is you. Seriously, you do nothing but bash anything that is not WWE. You make the other wwe fans look stupid. Your actions are no different from neonazis or the ku klux klan. Go get a life you crybaby.
Posted By: WrestlingFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:59 PM
Indy idiot. In the end, who is KENTA? A complete nobody, apart from in Japan, but they eat dogs so their opinion doesn't matter. More people have heard of, admire and believe Shawn Michaels and Undertaker are better, and KENTA, for that reason, couldn't lace their boots, which probably cost more money than he's ever made in his life.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 02:35 PM
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Indy idiot is fine. Yay that more people admire Undertaker and Shawn Michaels. Good for them. That has nothing to do with my personal opinion.
Not to mention the fact that you have a racist, ignorant, and close-minded attitude about Japanese wrestlers.
Does KENTA's popularity come anywhere close to Undertaker and Michaels? Nowhere, not even a fraction. Undertaker and Michaels are world-renowned international superstars of their professions.
But to call KENTA a complete nobody when you have a crowd of 2,000 that are screaming their heads off for him and enjoying his work in the US that's pretty ridiculous. Its also ridiculous considering KENTA's worked in Mexico and Europe as well.
Posted By: Jeffrey (Registered) on April 09, 2009 at 03:26 PM
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Typical +1 comments from losers who live in their parent's attic getting off to some indy nobody who "tries their best" despite a blatant lack of charisma, star power or the ability to be anything meaningful to the majority of wrestling fans.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 04:19 PM
Typical +1 comments from losers who live in their parent's attic getting off to some indy nobody who "tries their best" despite a blatant lack of charisma, star power or the ability to be anything meaningful to the majority of wrestling fans.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 04:19 PM
Ha, a typical insult from a fanboy. Seriosuly, your insults are getting stale, old, and boring. Most of us here are wrestling fans that enjoy wrestling no matter what promotion it comes from. None of us are fanboy nazis of one wrestling company like you. I think you are the one that lives in your parents attic. I also think you sleep with them.
Posted By: WrestlingFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 04:57 PM
Typical +1 comments from losers who live in their parent's attic getting off to some indy nobody who "tries their best" despite a blatant lack of charisma, star power or the ability to be anything meaningful to the majority of wrestling fans.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 04:19 PM
I think you live in your parents attic. Most fanboys who do nothing but bash people that have different tastes live in their parents basement and you fit the description.
Posted By: Guest#4398 (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 05:10 PM
Do you even truly know what charisma means?
Please explain how KENTA lacks star power and charisma. I'd love to hear it.
Posted By: Jeffrey Harris (Registered) on April 09, 2009 at 05:22 PM
i went to the ROH shows in Houston and watched the Mania back in Dallas, and i must say that i prefered the KENTA-Richards match more the the HBK-Taker match.
i also prefered the ROH shows to the Mania as well. it may have been the environment, but it was extremely fun watching "indy idiots" go out there and bust their asses for the 1,800 fans in attendence.
i think the pacing of the shows is one of the main differences, it seemed that the Mania was moving sooooooo slow, and the matches were filled with too much resting and waiting.
i'm an indy nerd, but i appreciate the E for what it is, and i was disappointed with Mania 25, even for by WWE standards......
Hopefully Dallas can get some Wrestlemania love with Jerry's new stadium opening soon.....plus Houston sucks and it reeks....
Posted By: thug saint OGA (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 05:27 PM
You do realize wearing that jersey is like keeping old calendars or keeping the new years of any/all years past right? Honestly, you wasted your money and the fans were more over with HBK/UT match while the title matches received little heat. You pic is stupid anyway, haha.
Posted By: guest1228 (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 05:42 PM
KENTA lacks charisma because he's a jap nobody, a nobody guy in a nobody promotion. And as such, he can have all the charisma in the world, but it means jack shit if there's only 20 people there to see it in some shed in the middle of a desert.
I'll stick with HBK, thnx.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 05:45 PM
Fuck Japanese wrestlers! Those short lil bastards need to acknowledge that they have been ripping off HULK HOGAN for DECADES!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Groot (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 05:49 PM
Yea it smelled like ass in Houston, but that's because no one around me from all these other countries knew about a product called deodorant..I swear everytime someone went to take a picture and lifted up their arms to get the shot I almost threw up in my mouth.
Posted By: ExodusAoA (Registered) on April 09, 2009 at 06:24 PM
I am sorry for making stupid comments. I am just a loser with no life.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 07:06 PM
Nice aricle. I love how it is a whole article, but only one sentnce you typed is getting attention. I hate to tack on the BS, but HBK/Taker was not even close to any indy fed match. I saw both of them over the last week, and it isn't even comparable. It would now seem the 'cool thing' to do would be to bash HBK/Taker. Why? It was a great match, let them have their moment in the sun. You can compare it to any sport; let's take baseball. A little league thrilling game or MLB World Series game in the bottom of the 9th inning? It doesn't matter if they were both 4 stars, 5 stars or one hundred stars. No way to compare 70,000 fans biting their fingernails over a 'guaranteed'(?) Taker win to a bunch of crammed fans cheering for guys nobody even knows. Once again, nice article, but try to keep it simple, and not sound cool down garding the Match of the Year. And hey, if I am dead wrong on this one, in December tell me what won Match of the Year....HBK/Taker or KENTA/Richards, as one will get about 90% of the votes and the other will get next to none. Thanks.
Posted By: Tex from Texas (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 07:58 PM
KENTA lacks charisma because he's a jap nobody, a nobody guy in a nobody promotion. And as such, he can have all the charisma in the world, but it means jack shit if there's only 20 people there to see it in some shed in the middle of a desert.
I'll stick with HBK, thnx.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 05:45 PM
Fuck Japanese wrestlers! Those short lil bastards need to acknowledge that they have been ripping off HULK HOGAN for DECADES!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Groot (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 05:49 PM
Boy, these two wwe fanboys are racist. To anyone who is a true wwe fan, don't associate with these guys like WWEFan and groot. Racist are the worse people in the world. It is better to be a nerd than a racist.
Posted By: Guest#3411 (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 08:14 PM
Who the HELL is 'KENTA'?
Posted By: The Don (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 08:21 PM
Orton/HHH is the worst booking error in wrestling history, this makes the Fingerpoke of Doom, Starcade 97 make sense.
The utter disappointment people felt from this match is unbelieveable, its also funny the next night on Raw after the intial HHH pop he got BOOED, fuck at the start RKO chants echoed throughout.
Vince must be deaf
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 08:21 PM
Hey, that's awesome. I hope you enjoyed WrestleMania, and I hope we were gracious hosts for fans of the WWE Universe. (man, that last part sounded lame)
I seriously hope that people enjoyed their stay here in Houston.
Posted By: Booker T (Guest) on April 09, 2009 at 09:50 PM
KENTA is a Japanese wrestler for the NOAH promotion. He's currently the GHC Jr. Heavyweight Champion of that promotion.
KENTA's been making fairly regular stops in ROH since 2005. He's defended the GHC title there as well as competed for the ROH world title.
KENTA started out as a student and protege for Kenta Kobashi.
Posted By: Jeffrey (Registered) on April 09, 2009 at 11:49 PM
You are a moron .
KENTA is a nobody .
I'm not saying he is BAD , but the fact is , NOBODY gives a damn about
him .
HBK & Taker are legends .
You are saying they are not good and making fun of them , and this KENTA is better , nobody will care for your opinion , everyone will just hate INDY WORK & KENTA Even more . It makes people laugh at you for your ignorance of the work HBK has done .
You are not deserving of writing columns , and stop trying to defend your lover KENTA .
You are one of the worst things on this website . Right now I'm sitting here looking at you trying to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my ass.
And you are very ugly . Oh I'm sorry, how many times did your parents drop you when you were a baby?
I Have no malice at all towards you , you may actually be a good guy , but the fact that you think KENTA is better , FAR better than HBK & Taker DESTROYS your credibility . Even KENTA himself would probably not agree with you .
And you will not find a single respectable wrestler agreeing with you .
I Even say that your colleagues on this site will disagree with you . Put up a public poll between UNDERTAKER , YOUR LOVE KENTA and HBK , and see how Your love gets blown out of the water . Or post a column asking the other writers on this site about whether HBK is better than Kenta , if they all agree with you , I will apologise to you .
Not saying that you should not have an opinion , just that your opinion is wrong . There are some stupid people in this world. You just helped me realize it.
Sorry I can't think of any more insults stupid enough for you.
I Hope you realize the error of your ways , in trying to defend your indy guy , you belittled 2 legends , essentially saying they're crap , even your idol KENTA would be ashamed of you right now .
All I Can say is :
Forgive Jeffrey . , lord , for he knows not what he writes .
Posted By: HBK (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 03:49 AM
KENTA started out as a student and protege for Kenta Kobashi.
Posted By: Jeffrey (Registered) on April 09, 2009 at 11:49 PM
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Aw, bless, he got taught by his daddy. Still, I don't care if he's defended the GBH title or whatever because he's still a nobody. Has he ever cut a decent promo? No, and he probaz fights like all the other Japanese wrestlers -you can barely tell them apart.
Also, is that you in the last picture, cause whoever it is looks like a fag.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 04:41 AM
You are a moron .
KENTA is a nobody .
I'm not saying he is BAD , but the fact is , NOBODY gives a damn about
him .
HBK & Taker are legends .
You are saying they are not good and making fun of them , and this KENTA is better , nobody will care for your opinion , everyone will just hate INDY WORK & KENTA Even more . It makes people laugh at you for your ignorance of the work HBK has done .
You are not deserving of writing columns , and stop trying to defend your lover KENTA .
You are one of the worst things on this website . Right now I'm sitting here looking at you trying to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my ass.
And you are very ugly . Oh I'm sorry, how many times did your parents drop you when you were a baby?
I Have no malice at all towards you , you may actually be a good guy , but the fact that you think KENTA is better , FAR better than HBK & Taker DESTROYS your credibility . Even KENTA himself would probably not agree with you .
And you will not find a single respectable wrestler agreeing with you .
I Even say that your colleagues on this site will disagree with you . Put up a public poll between UNDERTAKER , YOUR LOVE KENTA and HBK , and see how Your love gets blown out of the water . Or post a column asking the other writers on this site about whether HBK is better than Kenta , if they all agree with you , I will apologise to you .
Not saying that you should not have an opinion , just that your opinion is wrong . There are some stupid people in this world. You just helped me realize it.
Sorry I can't think of any more insults stupid enough for you.
I Hope you realize the error of your ways , in trying to defend your indy guy , you belittled 2 legends , essentially saying they're crap , even your idol KENTA would be ashamed of you right now .
All I Can say is :
Forgive Jeffrey . , lord , for he knows not what he writes .
Posted By: HBK (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 03:49 AM
You call me a moron, but at least I know how to type and not to put a space before periods or put periods before commas.
I'd like you to show me one place where I called the Undertaker or HBK bad or crap? I didn't. I said it was a great match. I've also called Undertaker and HBK popular, world renowned superstars and amongst the best of their field.
Also all your stupid and non-conclusive data about how everyone would rate HBK or Undertaker higher than KENTA: I do not care. I still like KENTA and that will not change. Why should I care that a poll would rate the Undertaker higher? So what. All you can do is type badly and attack my physical appearance.
Nobody gives a damn about KENTA, yet 2,000 fans were screaming their heads off for him on Saturday night. He's also performed for AAA, top Mexico promotion.
Posted By: Jeffrey Harris (Registered) on April 10, 2009 at 01:05 PM
Aw, bless, he got taught by his daddy. Still, I don't care if he's defended the GBH title or whatever because he's still a nobody. Has he ever cut a decent promo? No, and he probaz fights like all the other Japanese wrestlers -you can barely tell them apart.
Also, is that you in the last picture, cause whoever it is looks like a fag.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 04:41 AM
Actually, KENTA is one of the best wrestlers in the world. The only reason why you hate him is because he is not a wwe wrestler. What is it with you trolls. You can't stand the fact that there is more than one wrestling promotion out there. You also bash anything that is not WWE. I am pretty sure you will continue bash anything not WWE and bash anyone who likes other wrestling promotion in future pages because you are a troll with no life. In the end, you are a loser and everyone here sees you as a pathetic loser. After reading this, you will probably bash me because you are sensitive like a baby.
Posted By: Guest#0092 (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 01:16 PM
KENTA and Kenta Kobashi are not related.
It figures all the proletariat can really do is belittle my appearance rather than forming legitimate, thoughtful arguments. Either that or have atrocious typing skills and putting spaces before periods or putting a comma before a period like HBK (guest).
Why should I care what a poll thinks? I'll still like KENTA and feel he's one of the best. Last time I checked I still said HBK/Undertaker was a great match, I simply liked Richards/KENTA more. I was there live for both. I said that HBK and Undertaker are world renowned stars and are among the best in their profession.
Yet people say KENTA is a nobody. Nobody cares about KENTA. And yet KENTA was over as hell in front of a crowd of 2,000 people screaming their heads off for him to kick ass. So yeah, nobody in America cares about KENTA I guess. Even though KENTA was one of the main reasons I paid good money for my ROH tickets. As did numerous others that were very excited about seeing KENTA who was probably one of the most over people that weekend.
And let's also ignore how KENTA has performed in AAA as well, one of the biggest promotions in Mexico. But its Mexico, so I guess it doesn't matter right? Even though wrestling still draws huge crowds in Mexico compared to the US.
All the crowds of thousands KENTA performs in front of in Japan also must not care about him and think he's a nobody as well.
Posted By: Jeffrey Harris (Registered) on April 10, 2009 at 02:43 PM
I'll say it again, Jeffrey looks like a girl with cancer.
Posted By: Foolio (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Jeff, it's no use talking to these idiot fanboys. They will use anything to bash your favorite wrestlers. These fanboys are not true wrestling fans like the most of us. They can't even debate properly. They mention stuff like your appearance or how you are a virgin even though these things have nothing to do with the topic. Bottom line, these fanboys are not true wrestling fans because true wrestling fans would care about wrestling no matter what promotion it comes from.
Posted By: Guest#3052 (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 05:34 PM
i forgot to mention, nice article.
thanks for sharing your weekend with us and for adding you opinions regardless of how the trolls respond.
Posted By: thug saint OGA (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 06:11 PM
Being cheered on by 2000 indy losers = A Nobody.
Harsh reality.
You sort of "wrestling fans" who claim that some Jap is better than HBK/Taker and that they can't lace his boots don't DESERVE to watch Wrestlemania. They deserve to be in their shed, surrounded by other ROH fanboy morons who only care about the amount of different, fast, generic, unpurposeful moves they put in.
Indy nobodies, that's what they are.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 06:58 PM
Hey buddy, I dont agree with your views on wrestlemania...dont listen to them when they knock your appearance. that has nothing to do with anything.
Posted By: Joe Mastronardo (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 07:20 PM
Fair enough Jeremy if your favourite wrestler is KENTA, however, you took it a bit too far when you said that Taker and Michaels can't even tie his boots...
Posted By: Tom (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 08:40 PM
Being cheered on by 2000 indy losers = A Nobody.
Harsh reality.
You sort of "wrestling fans" who claim that some Jap is better than HBK/Taker and that they can't lace his boots don't DESERVE to watch Wrestlemania. They deserve to be in their shed, surrounded by other ROH fanboy morons who only care about the amount of different, fast, generic, unpurposeful moves they put in.
Indy nobodies, that's what they are.
Posted By: WWEFan (Guest) on April 10, 2009 at 06:58 PM
And once again, you prove to us that you have no life. I am pretty sure that you spend all of your hours bashing ROH and other promotions because you can't stand the fact that they are not WWE.
Posted By: Guest#6112 (Guest) on April 11, 2009 at 12:13 AM
The name is Jeffrey, not Jeremy. I stand by my statements.
The George R. Brown Convention Center isn't a shed either.
A crowd of 2,000 is pretty impressive for an indy show actually considering they don't have the millions in the budget to market a show like the WWE does.
Once again, the people who are anti-KENTA don't have a leg to stand on. All they can say is trolling statements and that they are nobodies for performing in an indy promotion even though its one of the largest drawing indies in the country. Even though people like Undertaker and Shawn Michaels started out wrestling in front of even smaller crowds at po-dunk venues. Hey, that's professional wrestling.
I don't see the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels going around and fighting the best from all the regions around the world which KENTA does on a regular basis in Asia, Europe, and North America.
Posted By: Jeffrey (Registered) on April 11, 2009 at 12:20 AM
I've never watched KENTA wrestle in my life. I'm also a huge WWE, 'Taker and HBK mark.
However, I do respect the opinion of Jeffrey Harris. This is what Professional Wrestling's about anyway.
We, the fans, ultimately get to conclude and choose the wrestlers we favour, no matter the performer's ability or popularity.
Give the dude a break. Even after reading his supposedly 'incredulous' comment, I'm unfazed due to the fact that he's entitled to his opinion.
Posted By: Thexman (Guest) on April 18, 2009 at 08:52 PM
Its all good. It should be noted that the haters don't even have a leg to stand on and most of the opinions and arguments they've expressed are illegitimate, ignorant, and/or racist.
Posted By: Jeffrey (Registered) on April 21, 2009 at 02:45 AM
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