411Mania's Squared Circle News Report 05.02.09
Posted by Dustin James on 05.02.2009
It's time once again to jump back into the Squared Circle! Join 411's Dustin James as he discusses the unfortunate death of "Playboy" Buddy Rose, the murder of Elix Skipper's son and the top 10 worst WCW gimmicks of all-time....
Welcome back inside the Squared Circle! As always it's been a busy week in the homeland here. I finally got to watch The Wrestler last Sunday. I really didn't have a whole lot to do that day so it was either that or read Randy Harrison's "Bell to Bell News Report". Either way, they both take about the same amount of time. I will have a little mini-review of "The Wrestler" down below, it will be filled with spoilers so make sure to avoid it if you haven't seen the movie yet!
Unfortunately this week, we saw the end of the Trail Blazers in the NBA playoffs. It's a shame, but the team is extremely young and LOADED. It's not like this team is going away any time folks. Houston was an extremely bad match-up for Portland and one that I hated from the second it was announced. I look for the Rockets to give LA a little bit of a headache but the Lakers should pull it off in 5-6 games. As for Portland, look for Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, and hopefully Greg Oden to dominate for the next few years baby!
Now, as promised......
The Wrestler Mini-Review
WARNING: SPOILERS!!!
As I mentioned I received The Wrestler on DVD from those wonderful folks over at Netflix finally and sat down to watch it last Sunday. All in all I must say it's a very good movie. Mickey Rourke did an amazing job as you have heard by now. The only thing I didn't really like was the ending because it just reeked of "The Sopranos". We were sitting here watching this man have a heart attack in the ring and he's about to perform his finishing move and then FADE TO BLACK.... write your own damn ending! While I liked it when "The Sopranos" did it, I'm not sure I liked it as much this go round. Either way, you can't hate on a movie just because of it's ending so I still give "The Wrestler" a high recommendation!
Now, on to some wrestling news......
LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!
Biggest News Of The Week:
"Playboy" Buddy Rose Dead At 56
Rest in peace big guy......
Wow. In less than a month's time we lose two Portland Wrestling legends in Steve Doll and "Playboy" Buddy Rose. Let's hope Scott Levy is taking it easy right now because it's not a good time to be an ex-Portland Wrestler. According to The Wrestling Observer, Rose was found dead in his home in Vancouver, Washington on April 28. Rose had reportedly complained to friends about having blood sugar problems relating to his diabetes but unfortunately was found dead by his wife of 18 years while sitting in his favorite chair watching TV.
Rose was always a guilty pleasure of mine. I have mentioned numerous times that I was a huge Portland Wrestling fan growing up and while I was too young to see Rose in his prime Portland days when he feuded with "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, I remember hearing all about it as a young child. I was "lucky" enough to catch Rose's WWF stint as a jobber on the "Blow Away" diet and when he forced the ring announcer to introduce his weight as a "slim and trim 217 pounds" even though he was more like 315.
I do have one good story involving Rose and myself. I remember seeing an ad during Portland Wrestling for a carnival at Sandy Barr's Flea Mart in Portland. The carnival was set to feature many wrestlers doing various things to interact with the fans. Well it just so happens that when I showed up..."Playboy" Buddy Rose was sitting in the dunk tank. This was a dream come true for a little tyke like myself. Here was one of the best heels in PW history and I got a chance to dip his ass into a tank of cold water!
Needless to say when I walked up to attempt my throw, Buddy Rose was running his mouth in usual heel fashion. I got three tries to attempt and soak him but somehow (must have been the nerves) I whiffed on every single throw. However, there was a "carny" sitting by ready to please the fans who let me walk up and press the button and dunk Rose's ass into the cold water! It may have been cheap, but it got the job done and got me a handshake from the "Playboy" himself.
Buddy Rose will definitely be missed by this writer. Everyone here at 411mania.com would like to send our condolences to the Perschmann family. Another one gone way too early......
Elix Skipper's Son Murdered
Horrible news for Skipper.....
And we have even more bad news. Unfortunately the son of former WCW and TNA star Elix Skipper died after being shot numerous times. According to the report, Skipper's son opened the door of his apartment in the afternoon and two men barged into the house firing a weapon. Skipper lived in the apartment with his Godmother, who was home at the time of the shooting but was unharmed. This is the worst kind of news that a parent can get. Now of course all the conspiracy theorists will come out...with good reason of course.
Why? Because apparently this guy did something to make someone mad. Perhaps this was a robbery gone wrong, but something doesn't smell right about the fact that the alleged shooters barged into the house with guns blazing and his Godmother is unharmed. I don't really have the whole story right now so I can't really comment on the situation myself...I'm just informing you what other people might assume.
As for Elix Skipper, I honestly don't know what the man is up to. I was always a huge fan of his during his run with TNA and WCW and I sincerely hope things get better for him and his family. I hope to give you more details on this story next week when they are revealed....
Remember This Guy???
Big Josh
Last week I spoke about "The Real Man's Man" William Regal...this week I'm talking about a guy who may even be more of a "man's man" than Regal himself. The man I'm talking about is none other than WCW veteran Big Josh (sorry for the picture...it was impossible trying to find a decent one)! Josh exploded onto the WCW scene in the early 90's as a lumberjack from the Pacific Northwest. That was all fitting because Josh was actually Matt Borne, who hailed from the Pacific Northwest. His stint with WCW didn't last long but it did include numerous tag team appearances with "Rapmaster" P.N. News! OH JOY!! Needless to say, after a brutal stint with WCW, Josh was sent back into the woods never to be seen again.
Of course if you want to believe the rumors, Borne signed with the WWF after being released by WCW and became one of my favorite gimmicks of all-time....Doink The Clown. Man I miss Matt Borne!!!
Random News Bits:
- Jay Lethal has re-signed with TNA. That's a good move by TNA seeing as Lethal is extremely talented and oozes MACHISMOOOOO.
- Cute Kip is booked on this weekend's house shows even though he is no longer scheduled to appear on television. Consider this the GREATEST NEWS EVER.
- TNA may be looking to bring in Lance Cade, however Cade currently has previous commitments with the HUSTLE promotion in Japan. That would be a great move for TNA as I personally feel Cade didn't get a fair shake during his WWE run.
- Mick Foley recently started work on his fourth autobiography. It's expected to focus on his jump to TNA and how he is now having more fun wrestling than he has in years. I don't expect to read the thing if it turns into a "bash WWE book". Those kind of things just leave a sour taste in my mouth. We get it....Vince McMahon is crazy and out of touch, I don't need to be constantly reminded of these things.
- The WWE had no interest in bringing Bobby Lashley back into the company. They aren't interested in someone who wants to be a part-time worker or anyone currently affiliated with an MMA promotion. Can't say I really blame them much. Lashley was a lost investment for the WWE and they should just move on and forget about him.
- The early favorite to land WrestleMania 27 is Indianapolis, Indiana. Indiana offers nothing I want to see in person so chalk down another WrestleMania I won't be attending live. Why can't they go back to Vegas?
- After watching The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels and Ricky Steamboat's WrestleMania appearance, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin reportedly told a friend that he missed being in the ring. That's the first time Austin has given any sort of indication about a possible return to the ring. Will he wrestle at WrestleMania 26? START THE RUMORS NOW!!!
- Former WWE Women's Champion Trish Stratus recently sat down with a newspaper in Moncton, NB and had the following to say regarding the current WWE women's division:
"It is disappointing. I think what it is, they have too many women. And I think they can't even see who's who because there's so many of them."
I couldn't agree more. I tend to watch WWE television with people who aren't frequent viewers and they find it next to impossible to identify who's who in the women's division. They don't ALL have to be pretty with big titties Vince....not that I'm complaining or anything!
- TNA veteran Lance Hoyt signed a developmental deal with the WWE this past week. I wonder what name he will get upon his WWE debut? Is "Braden Walker" taken?
- There is talk of a possible Ted DiBiase face turn. The company wants to turn him into a top babyface by the time "The Marine 2" is released on DVD. There's another movie that I don't expect to watch.
- The writing is on the wall as far as R-Truth's WWE future is concerned. He was recently squashed in a dark match against Umaga that saw R-Truth not get a single offensive move in. That's usually not a good sign.....
(Credit goes to The Wrestling Observer for the above news!)
Wrestling Top 10 Lists:
My Top 10 Worst WCW Gimmicks
(These are my personal top 10 worst WCW gimmicks from the time I started watching it in 1990 to it's demise.....)
This list IS IN a particular order......
Honorable Mentions:
Roadblock - Roadblock was a bad ass. Nothing is scarier than an ugly out of shape dude who carries a traffic barricade to the ring. FEAR HIM!!!
Trucker Norm - Norm the Lunatic....as a trucker. SMELL THE MONEY! This wouldn't be Norm's last craptastic gimmick however. He went on to become Friar Ferguson and Bastion Booger in WWE.
Seven - "Goldust" Dustin Rhodes leaves the WWE, sign with WCW and gets saddled with this horrible gimmick.
AND NOW.....THE TOP 10!!!
10) Johnny B. Badd
Marc Mero as a Little Richard impersonator....kill me now......
9) "Rapmaster" PN News
Remember this piece of work? I don't know if WCW was trying to be "cool" with this gimmick or if they were trying to be funny. Either way....it was neither.
8) Oz
Kevin Nash as the "man behind the curtain" in Emerald City. COUNT ME OUT!
7) Alex "Das Wunderkid" Wright
I don't actually know if this was a gimmick or if it was just this guy being himself...which was a big douchebag. It's pretty bad when I think of an old WCW gimmick and all I remember was this jackass dancing like a moron. Can you tell I really didn't like this guy yet???
6) "KISS" Demon
Craptastic band + Craptastic wrestler = Me changing channel.
5) Disco Inferno
You know what happens when you mix extremely shitty music and mix it with extremely shitty dancing? You get this wonderful gem. For some reason this gimmick lasted a few years and Disco is even kind of considered a "WCW legend" in some neighborhoods.
4) American Males
I'm sure Marcus Alexander Bagwell and Scotty Riggs would've made a fine tag team with ANY other gimmick. Unfortunately they get saddled with this "male stripper" type gimmick with horrendous entrance music to boot.
3) The Shockmaster
How do you know when a gimmick doesn't work? When it's a joke from the minute the guy appears. For the two of you who have yet to see it....you can do so below!
2) The Yeti
This marks the second time this atrocious gimmick has appeared in my news column. I must love talking about shitty gimmicks!
1) The Renegade
While WCW had some horrendous gimmicks over the years, none of them were as bad in my mind as this "generic" Ultimate Warrior. I was a huge Warrior fan growing up and I remember the minute I saw The Renegade I was just taken back at WCW's blatant rip-off. For all the horrible gimmicks that WCW managed to squeeze out in it's existence...none of them were as bad as this one in my opinion.
YouTube! Find Of The Week!
As previously promised, the debut of "The Shockmaster......!!
And that's it for me this week. Remember, don't be a stranger to 411! Bookmark the site and visit it countless times a day. Hell, be brave and make it your homepage! Trust me, it will make you a better person......
See you next Saturday back in the Squared Circle! Until then, you can find me on MySpace or Facebook! I also recently broke down and got a Twitter as well!
As for the WCW gimmicks -- I like the rest of your list, but Marc Mero was never more over than when he was Johnny B. Badd, so it can't really be a bad gimmick.
Posted By: MDK (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 12:12 AM
You have no taste in gimmicks my friend. 1/2 of what you say is pure BULLSHIT.
Posted By: DocH78 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 12:18 AM
I'm with ya with the Renegade, the Kiss Demon, the American Males, the Shockmaster (although they sort of salvaged this in the aftermath), Disco Inferno and Das Wunderkid.
However, I really liked the short-lived Berlyn character for Wright, which got off to a fantastic start. I also kinda dug Johnny B. Badd, especially at the very beginning when he was completely over the top. Oz was not much as a wrestler or gimmick, but the initial unveiling of the gimmick at Superbrawl is fun to watch.
PN News was a bad gimmick but man, I still remember the Great American Bash 1991 rap by heart...
I'm in the Portland area as well and am pretty bummed all these PW guys are dying too. Don Owens and Sandy Barr are both gone too. I used to struggle to stay up for Portland Wrestling on Saturday nights, but on the occasion that I made it, it was my favorite wrestling program on TV. I never got to see the WWF/WCW until the later 90s, but I saw a few matches at the Salem Armory in the early 90s. I don't think there will ever be another fed quite like it.
Posted By: nwa88 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 12:21 AM
How can "The Juicer" (Art Barr in Beetlejuice make-up) not even make the list? That name alone and the connotations it involves in pro wrestling should put him in the top 3!
Posted By: Trashy (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 12:22 AM
5) Disco Inferno
________________________________________
- Fail for this.
More like greatest WCW gimmick of all time.
Disco is a god.
And this entrance theme ruled.
Disco listened to Disco Music, while eating Ecstasy and zoning out on Lava Lamps.
Posted By: Guinness (Registered) on May 02, 2009 at 12:23 AM
How is Shockmaster the youtube find of the week? I have been watching that and every wrestling site has been posting that since youtube was made.
Posted By: Guest#7690 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Where's the Maestro and Booker T's GI Bro?
Posted By: Guest#4781 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Johnny B. Badd was awesome. When I first became aware of WCW, he was in his feud with Maxx Payne. Also, American Males weren't that bad.
Glacier was bad....not terrible as an idea, but such an obvious ripoff...
Posted By: Shaun (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 12:56 AM
If they want to turn DiBiase face before the Marine 2 hits dvd they better have him kick Orton in the nuts as soon as he walks off the set.
Posted By: Neil (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 01:22 AM
No mention :(
Posted By: RoboCop (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 01:26 AM
Johnny B Badd was an awesome gimmick. He succeeded as both a heel and a face. For someone as "fruity" as Johnny B Badd to get over with the crowd is nothing short of amazing.
Posted By: NoirFan (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 01:59 AM
I agree with most of your list, but Johnny B. Badd was over like rover and not actively offensive. And Disco Inferno was possibly the greatest gimmick ever, period.
I'll give you the Renegade as Warrior ripoff, but I thought he was much better as one of the youngsters that Teddy Long was mentoring for a short time when he was feuding with the evil nWo referee.
Posted By: Mr. GE (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 02:18 AM
Ahhrm.. I hereby move that we include the following:
1) The Desperados
2) The "Master" (from DoD)
3) The Shark/Avalanche
4) Mortis/Glacier
5) The Black Scorpion!!!
Posted By: Lord Winthrop Thistlewick (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 02:23 AM
How could you miss either of Mike Awesome's joke gimmicks? The fat chick thriller? That 70's Guy?
Horrible.
Posted By: AdamS (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 03:05 AM
They actually teamed Disco Inferno with Das Wunderkid. I don't know how that didn't make the worst tag team list.
Posted By: Guest#2901 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 03:18 AM
some of those were not bad and had some success (disco, alex wright).
Renegade was supposed ot be bad as it was a pisstake of the Warrior
You've missed crap like Arachnaman, the dingalings, maestro, chavo and his hobby horse (chavo is not bad, but a friggin hobby horse?!?!), terra ryzing, and i think there was a hunchback tag team.
Methinks this is a list of gimmicks you remember, that ignores gimmmicks so bad they lasted about three weeks and are thus worse.
All hail La Parka
Posted By: Snubbed (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 04:19 AM
What about Glacier???
Posted By: Zosssarrrrorrrrr (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 04:26 AM
No The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Ieaukea or the Dog on your list? I call BS! And don't forget all of Master Ps No Limit Soljahs!
Posted By: Derek (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 05:35 AM
Uh...
Mike Awesome the 70s guy
Hugh Morris
The Zodiac
Posted By: Guest#2452 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 05:42 AM
The Juicer has to be on the list. It's much worse when you consider who they were marketing the character toward, and what Art Barr was suspected of in the Portland area.
Posted By: elguapo1974 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 07:12 AM
A few comments:
Johnny B Bad was a pretty solid gimmick overall. He started out as a Little Richard impersonator as a heel and became less so as he turned face.
Alex Wright: No doubt about it, he was a tool. The gimmick worked well for him in his 97-98 heel run, but as a face, it was pretty bad.
Disco was great, as the man played the douche bag heel to perfection.
Also, while Seven may have been a horrible gimmick, from what I remember, the actual character never made it to air outside of vignettes, as Dustin came out and essentially trashed the gimmick shortly after Russo left for good.
Now for some other bad gimmicks:
Buzzkill: From the mind of Vince Rousseau--get another Armstrong to essentially do Roaddog V 2.0. I'm amazed WCW didn't get sued over that one. Speaking of WCW ripoffs of WWF gimmicks...
The Boss: The Bossman was a pretty good gimmick for Ray Trayler in the WWF, so WCW tried to make his WCW character as close as they could without getting sued--which didn't work.
Guardian Angel: Next, they tried this. Anybody remember the 3 strikes? Trayler just wasn't in a good place for WCW gimmicks. On the other hand, he did have some of the best matches of his career against Vader.
Van Hammer: A Sammy Hagar lookalike with a metal gimmick?
Ararchnidman & Fantasia/Badstreet: Brad Armstrong should have his own wing of the "Bad gimmicks Hall of Fame." Here are two from the early 90's that lasted about a few months a piece. The former was a Spiderman ripoff, while the latter was a masked assistant to the Freebirds.
No Limit Soldiers: And Brad Armstrong makes another appearance here, teaming with Masta P's group. This was a gimmick so bad, that it turned Hennig and Windham's West Texas Rednecks face.
Good job, and good way to start a discussion. How about a top 10 list of bad WWF gimmicks? (Or probably a top 20, since there certainly are far more than 10).
Posted By: Michael L (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 07:47 AM
You really liked the Sopranos ending? Please tell me you're not one of those elitists that believed the ending had some deep rooted meaning other than a family enjoying greasy onion rings while the hot daughter couldn't park?
Do you enjoy those horrendous, go-nowhere dream episodes David Chase forced on viewers too?
Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 09:05 AM
My name is News,
and I'm on the attack.
Let the sucker in,
let me put em' on his back!
Yo baby, yo baby, yo!
Posted By: P.N. (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 09:18 AM
Call that a column? News again about Rose, news again about Skipper's son and a few tidbits before your pointless lists?
Also Cade was being pushed hard in the Michaels/Jericho feud until he failed wellness and got fired. How that equates to them not giving him a fair shake I don't know.
Posted By: Col (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 09:50 AM
Two words, nine letters: DING DONGS!
Posted By: Dave (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 10:10 AM
I propose a one-year ban on all references to and videos of the Shockmaster. Seriously, we've all seen the clip a hundred times and unless you have something new to say about it, we don't need to hear about it either
Posted By: Guest#0917 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 10:13 AM
I think you just hate music and are taking out on gimmicks.
Posted By: Guest#7347 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Why did you have to use that picture of Buddy Rose? I did not like that
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Arachnaman, Bad Street, Maestro,
T Rantula, the Shark, Zodiac, the Booty Man, Buzzkill, Firebreaker Chip, Ranger Ross, Sgt. Pitman, Mr. Hole In One, Glacier????????????, Major Stash, Little Richard Mareley, The Awesome Kongs, Loch Ness, Oklahoma, Master P and the No Limit Soldiers, Guardian Angel, Ze Gangsta, the Ultimate Solution.
Posted By: guesttoday (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 11:15 AM
dude, disco inferno and alex wright were awesome workers. your just a mark that don't know shit about the business. were the gimmicks over? yes. therefore, they were succesful gimmicks.
Posted By: marks say DURRRR (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Where's that guy who usually calls you an ASS?
Posted By: You Ass? (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 11:29 AM
You know, they have something like this, it's called Wrestlecrap.
Posted By: lilwayne1 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Disco Inferno was over and awesome! A bad gimmick would be one, like the Yeti or your sorry article, that was horrible and gets little to no reaction when it was around and is quickly forgotten after it is gone.
Posted By: James sucks (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Major/Private Stash?
Posted By: son of pillman (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 11:43 AM
No Ding Dongs?
No Dungeon of Doom?
No Misfits in Action?
No Mike Awesome "Fat Chick Thriller"?
Or that 70's guy?
No Hard Core Hak?
No "Creative Control"
No "Cheatum"?
No anything Russo threw at the wall?
No Oklahoma?
And the Kiss thing could have worked but they screwed it up.
The storyline that has been rumored involving Vampiro might have been cool.
Posted By: Guest#6510 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 12:23 PM
I really think Roadblock and Disco Inferno were using those gimmicks before WCW, so that company can't really shoulder the blame for creating them (for televising them, absolutely). Roadblock was "The Rochester Roadblock" in the northeast for years before he was in WCW.
Posted By: D (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Disco Inferno is a minor legend because he was not a shitty wrestler. He was constantly given crap to work with and occasionally spun gold out of it.
Posted By: The Winner (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 01:21 PM
KISS???you called KISS craptactic? I say F You JOBU
Posted By: are you kidding me (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 01:25 PM
There is no way the Renegade is the worst ever... sure it wasn't great, but no way was it as embarassing as the Yeti or Shockmaster.
I actually think it is time we got a new 'Warrior like' character in WWE... if played right it could be huge, but then again it could be a massive flop but I bet it would be entertaining regardless!
Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 01:49 PM
Craptastic concept + Craptastic writer = Me changing websites.
Seriously, this column was horrible
Posted By: Guest#9870 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 02:02 PM
I'm glad some other posters mentioned it. The obvious missing name in your list is Glacier. The build last forever. When he debuted, he was awful, and then they tried to make it a comic bit. A lot of wasted money.
Posted By: Guest#0752 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 02:06 PM
In regards to Matt Borne (aka. Big Josh), what do you mean, "if you want to believe the rumors"?
It is no rumor. Borne was the original Doink the Clown, as most of us knew long ago.
Personally, I dug him even more in ECW as Borne Again. That was Matt at his most maniacal.
Posted By: Devin (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 02:39 PM
Ever think of supporting your opinions with an articulated argument of some kind?
Posted By: Guest#619 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 02:46 PM
some of those were not bad and had some success (disco, alex wright).
Renegade was supposed ot be bad as it was a pisstake of the Warrior
You've missed crap like Arachnaman, the dingalings, maestro, chavo and his hobby horse (chavo is not bad, but a friggin hobby horse?!?!), terra ryzing, and i think there was a hunchback tag team.
Methinks this is a list of gimmicks you remember, that ignores gimmmicks so bad they lasted about three weeks and are thus worse.
All hail La Parka
Posted By: Snubbed (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 04:19 AM
--------------------------
Terra Ryzing was a HORRIBLE wrestling name. However, the man who filled that role went on to have a pretty good career...
Posted By: Shaun (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 04:08 PM
Seven lasted one night. It was a worked shoot. Anyone from the Dungeon of Doom was terrible. All of you seem to have forgotten about The Gambler. The guy would throw a deck of cards in his opponents face and they would sell it. Sting even sold the deck of cards once!
Posted By: future (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 04:44 PM
I agree with almost all of it except Disco Inferno. It seems every fed has to have one of those.
Disco Inferno = Santino Marella = Eric Young
Posted By: Doughboy (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 04:44 PM
It always pisses me off when people bash the Seven gimmick, because no one had a chance to see where it would have went.
The look was decent at worst, and Dustin had the charisma to pull something like that off.
Somewhere along the line it became popular to bash it. Not sure why...
Posted By: MKick (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 05:34 PM
Ever think of supporting your opinions with an articulated argument of some kind?
Posted By: Guest#619 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 02:46 PM
Keep your East coast liberalism to you and yours, Harvard Boy!
Posted By: Guest#2407 (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 06:57 PM
I love me some ridiculus gimmick talk. You missed a huge chance to post pics of each of these failed abortions of pro-wrestling however
Posted By: guest guest (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 07:04 PM
No way Disco Inferno or Alex Wright belongs here. Just, no way. The fans were into both of these gimmicks.
Alex was the classic "I'm better than you" heel. He'd be beating somebody up and then for no reason at all start dancing. Loved it. Really a shame he's not in WWE or TNA now. He was pretty young back then.
Disco? You just have no love for the business. I pity you.
"Disco Fever! Disco Fever! Disco Fever. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah." :-)
One thing about lits like these is it's just a matter of opinion. Not fact. But seeing Alex and Disco on it makes me long for that particular time period of WCW.
Posted By: Guy Incognito (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 08:46 PM
Johnny B. Badd was great! And there's NO way that Renegade was worse than Shockmaster! Disco and Alex Wright were good too.. WCW had a lot worse gimmicks than them... For that matter, so did/does WWE.
Posted By: Spyke (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Ones not mentioned even in the responses:
3 Count
LWO
Daffney
Debra McMichael, Queen of WCW. Look what happened to her when WWE siliconed her up and made her wear minis.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on May 02, 2009 at 10:54 PM
C'mon, heel Alex Wright was awesome. Awhile back, someone posted a ton of stuff from 90s WCW, and Alex Wright heel promos were classic. Disco was cool too, and the two together was great.
I remember when I was a kid, I actually thought Renegade was the Warrior for awhile.
Posted By: y2kev (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 12:21 AM
"7) Alex "Das Wunderkid" Wright
I don't actually know if this was a gimmick or if it was just this guy being himself...which was a big douchebag. It's pretty bad when I think of an old WCW gimmick and all I remember was this jackass dancing like a moron. Can you tell I really didn't like this guy yet???"
Dude, you and me both! I hated this fucker so much I would always change the channel when I would see him spastic to his craptastic disco. I was so happy when Paul Roma made him look like a tool!
Posted By: Joe (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 01:10 AM
Shockmaster definitely belongs, but in reality, besides Yeti, all of Ed Leslie's gimmicks belong on the worst ever in WCW, with it being an impossibility to ever decide which was the worst(Booty Man has my vote though).
Posted By: Butters4Prez (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 04:05 AM
The Disco Inferno was a very long lasting gimmick. It went on for half a decade at least, with lots of fans with signs in the crowd. I liked him actually.
And he teamed up with Alex Wright to form the "boogie nights" but never did much together... Except dance.
I agree with Renegade as being a bad Gimmick.
Posted By: Damien (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 05:23 AM
You can't beat Davey Boy at 3:54;
"He fell flat on his fucking arse"
Posted By: The Hitcher (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 08:26 AM
Turn Dibease into a top face...to help shill some DVD's?
How's that going for Kennedy & Behind Enemy Lines 2?
Let's re-sign Boogeyman & get set for direct to dvd - See No Evil 2.
WWE Films = fail
Posted By: Byzdalmyt (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 09:57 AM
I was never a huge WCW fan but Disco Inferno was one of the guys I would watch the show for...Disco Feevaa Disco Feevaaa Disco Feevaaa YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!
That is just so awesome....
The Shockmaster was horrendous and should have been number one.. with the stormtrooper helmet, him falling down and the Yoda voice so obviously recorded and the fur vest.....
Posted By: FCT (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 10:55 AM
The Seven gimmick had potential. I remember Raven describing it was to be based off of the seven deadly sins. WCW never followed through with it.
I disagree with you on the Johnny B. Badd and Disco Inferno gimmicks. And you won't make any friends calling Kiss 'craptastic.' Personally thought he was good in the underrated 'Dark Carnival' gimmick.
Posted By: Karatgold24 (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Wow, Disco Inferno > life. Don't ever insult him again.
Posted By: Foolio (Registered) on May 03, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Mark.
-Mike
Posted By: RanmaSolo (Registered) on May 03, 2009 at 04:27 PM
It is amusing that WWE fans love to have other people and former wrestlers criticized yet, when the WWE and Vince McMahon are potentially criticized they want to put their heads in the sands and ignore it.
Posted By: The Man (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 05:46 PM
What no Abe Knuckball Swartz? Or THE GOON!? Skinner wasn't a great gimmick either.
Posted By: DCFlash (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 05:57 PM
The worst "gimmick" in the history of wrestling is WWE ... nuff said
Posted By: Nepotism World Odor (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 07:32 PM
ROBOCOP
Posted By: paul (Guest) on May 03, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Seriously, you missed the sorriest/coolest gimmick ever for any wrestling orginization....isn't anybody down with the 3-COUNT!!
Posted By: You missed that!? (Guest) on May 04, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Ok, someone was already down with the 3-count, my mistake, but how bad can a gimmick be when you model them after the backstreet boys? What about the celebrity wrestlers, that was a gimmick too...David Arquette as WCW champ. Wow, how did WCW survive 2 weeks after that?
Posted By: You missed that!? (Guest) on May 04, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Copyright (c) 2011 411mania.com, LLC. All rights reserved.
Click here for our privacy policy. Please help us serve you better, fill out our survey.
Use of this site signifies your agreement to our terms of use.
