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Brooklyn Brawlin' 5.07.09: Super Cena vs. Other Super Heroes of Wrestling
Posted by Dan Torkel on 05.07.2009



Greetings. I am a day late and a dollar short and time is of the essence for me this week as work is beginning to grind on me. One year of teaching freshmen can kill mere mortal man. Having just celebrated my 27th birthday, I can begin my 23rd year of being a wrestling fan. Last week I wrote about a possible resurgence on the blue brand (Smackdown), and boy was the first week of the New Blue (trademark Torkel '09) a success. Shelton vs. Morrison, a fatal fourway that got nearly 4-stars, and the return of UUUUMMMAGA!!! Keep it up Smackdown. Raw, unfortunately was boring as sin for me, with Big Show sllllooooooowly beating up Cena, and yet another thrilling week where Shane O-Mac gets beaten down.


A Quick Complaint -

Ok, so CM Punk wins his second consecutive MITB ladder match at Wrestlemania XXV. Last year, he cashed in the briefcase and pinned an already fallen Edge to "steal" the World Title. Then he was given the Rey Mysterio title push where he lost clean in non-title matches and sneaked by on ppv, (his lone ppv title defense was against JBL) and then losing the title without even being in the Scramble match. So one year later, here we are again. Punk's first post Mania feud is what should be a no-brainer against Kane. Problem # 1: Inexplicably, he loses clean as a whistle at Backlash. Despite the loss he seems ready to jump into the main event at any time thanks to the case. He seems ready to cash in against Edge again, but Umaga returns and destroys him setting up his next feud. Problem # 2: Umaga is making a grand return after not having been seen in a long time, and thus should win his return feud. And let's face it, Umaga SHOULD beat Punk, he is a monster, quicker and agile big man with a proven track record against big stars. And Punk JUST LOST TO KANE!!! Punk, the default # 1 contender will almost certainly lose his first two feuds and ppv matches after WM XXV. Way to go geniuses! How it should have gone: Punk beats Kane clean at Backlash. On SD, he goes to cash in but gets taken out by a returning Umaga. We find out Edge has Umaga watching his back on Punk Patrol, to ensure last year doesn't repeat itself. Umaga wins his return match at Judgment Day, and then in the rematch at Extreme Rules, Punk wins the gimmick match before feuding with Edge into the summer.

Super Cena and Why We Hate Him -

I was thinking this week that in the two weeks since Backlash, John Cena has looked abnormally weak. I mean, god knows he shouldn't even be on TV after getting Chokeslammed through a spotlight that then exploded, but that is the issue. That is why the so called "Cena-haters" hate him. I attest that it is not that we hate John Cena, far from it actually. I for one respect the hell out of Cena, for returning early from injuries, putting on a consistent streak of 4-star matches, working up from the bottom, and constantly getting better. But the hate derives from the way the booking team has portrayed him as a bonafide indestructible superman. Part of wrestling, especially for babyfaces, is for the fans to believe they are in significant trouble. We just don't sense this with Cena though.

I grew up in the golden age of wrestling, the Rock-n-Wrestling connection was in full bloom and Hulk Hogan and Hulkamania was running wild. Hogan was a superman, but the difference between he and Cena was Hogan, for everything else, sold that he was in trouble. It was a different time with different fans, but when Hogan was attacked by Bundy and Muraco and went into WM 2 with taped ribs I was scared. When he looked up at the undefeated Andre the Giant, the Hulkamaniacs were nervous. When Savage went nuts and turned on him, we bought it, and when Earthquake squashed him we felt the tremors. Sure Hogan always win the blowoff, and his hulk-up, 3 punches, big boot and leg drop are considered ridiculous today. But back in the day it was great. Unlike Cena though, Hogan always made the opponent look and feel like legitimate threats.

The most clear examples of recent note were last year's Rumble, Survivor Series and Armageddon ppvs. Cena was injured by Orton in late 2007 and returned in a surprise at the Rumble and was immediately viewed as the favorite and then won the whole thing. Then another return as Cena was injured at Summerslam by Batista and was just given a Title shot for no reason against Superstar of the Year Chris Jericho (who they continually note has never beaten Cena). Cena had a down year after the Rumble losing gimmick matches and triple threats during the year, so Jericho should've been the clear favorite and from a booking standpoint Jericho should've won here to be the biggest blowhard self-appraising heel champ ever! But instead, after taking every thing Jericho had, one simple FU and boom Cena's champ again. The Armageddon rematch was worse. Jericho locked Cena in the Walls of Jericho for over a minute. Cena didn't tap, but then reversed and tapped Jericho to the STFU in a matter of seconds thus killing Jericho's finisher and momentum he spent a year garnering. Again, is this Cena's fault... No. But why does Vince push him this way. It kills the competitive nature of pro wrestling. We know he is strong, we know he has heart and determination. But he is just a strong, determined man, not a friggin superman!

Another thing that contributes to the ill will IMO is the submission finishers. Pinning someone is fine, anyone can get pinned. But submissions make your opponent look like a bitch. They tap out, quit, can't take pain and are effectively not taken seriously by the fans because we see them as quitters. Even the great Triple H battled "you tapped out" chants for months after WM XX. Tapping sticks with guys. Especially the super fast Cena taps you get. Take Shawn Michaels against Kurt Angle at WM XXI. He took the Ankle Lock forever. It hurt the move, but he didnt give Angle the super quick Cena tap. This goes along with the fact that Cena's moveset simply is not impressive. He is like watching a Macho Man title defense from 1992. 10 minutes of beatdown, then two moves and finisher. And let's face it folks, the FU (Attitude Adjustment) is the lamest superstar finisher since the Leg Drop. It is a firemen's carry slam, thats it! Not a DVD, and F5, or anything cool like that. The People's Elbow was lame but it always followed a Rockbottom or spinebuster. People will always boo and cheer whoever they want, but with the new family friendly direction of the E, they have created a star who is more like Superman than Hulk Hogan, and the problem with Superman, like Cena, is that he's indestructible. And so far, no one in the WWE has any kryptonite.

Till next time have fun storming the castle.



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"How it should have gone: Punk beats Kane clean at Backlash. On SD, he goes to cash in but gets taken out by a returning Umaga. We find out Edge has Umaga watching his back on Punk Patrol, to ensure last year doesn't repeat itself. Umaga wins his return match at Judgment Day, and then in the rematch at Extreme Rules, Punk wins the gimmick match before feuding with Edge into the summer."

This.


Posted By: Gillan (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 03:05 PM

 
 
"Another thing that contributes to the ill will IMO is the submission finishers. Pinning someone is fine, anyone can get pinned. But submissions make your opponent look like a bitch."

No, what makes your opponent look like a bitch (rather than just someone with human limits) is when you're beating the crap out of and completely dominating your opponent - then they, with no build up or fighting back, do their finisher and instantly win. (makes *them* a bitch because they look like they can't do anything useful other than the insta-win move - but it also makes *you* look like a bitch because, despite totally dominating, you still lose to a 1-trick-pony)


Posted By: The Ogre (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 03:28 PM

 
 
What was the point of this article?

This seems like an angry teenagers blog.

Yeah because Cena didn't make Umage or Khali look like beasts before he won the match, or he is not making the big show look good (dark matches don't count, there is a reason they are dark, Hogan would wrestle house shows, when he was "injured" on Tv.

Did you forget that Punk had a CLEAN win on Edge. And what do you mean we haven't seen Umaga? Yes we have, did you just start watching smackdown? He already went through all his squash matches, and now he has a feud.

I hate when people think that if you lose a match, you lose all credibility. You don't, look at MVP. Look at Punk. Kane needed to Win that Match so the Fatal Four way made sense.


Posted By: the point? (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 03:55 PM

 
 
"How it should have gone: Punk beats Kane clean at Backlash. On SD, he goes to cash in but gets taken out by a returning Umaga. We find out Edge has Umaga watching his back on Punk Patrol, to ensure last year doesn't repeat itself. Umaga wins his return match at Judgment Day, and then in the rematch at Extreme Rules, Punk wins the gimmick match before feuding with Edge into the summer."

This.

Posted By: Gillan (Guest) on May 07, 2009 at 03:05 PM

Nice you should write for CC for WWE and fire SMH!!!


Posted By: guest1228 (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 04:00 PM

 
 
I too can't understand why they have people tap out to the STFU so damn quickly. It doesn't help that sometimes Cena doesn't perform it too well. If someone is gonna tap out to anything in a matter of 3 seconds, at least make it seem that it REALLY hurts.

Posted By: Guest#6155 (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 04:03 PM

 
 
Blah Blah Blah. Sorry, but that's all I hear from Cena haters anymore.

Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 05:01 PM

 
 
I love Clodagh Harnett. She Don't love me:(

Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 05:54 PM

 
 
So CM Punk gets beat clean by Kane, CM Punk then beats Edge clean, and Jeff Hardy wants a title shot because he didn't get beat clean.

So booking heirarchy makes it look like this

1.Kane
2.Jeff Hardy/CM Punk
3.Edge (the worlds champion)

That's ****** up.


Posted By: Denton56 (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 06:17 PM

 
 
Punk fought Batista at the Great American Bash too, he had two PPV title matches.

Posted By: Quinny (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 06:36 PM

 
 
Let's see...Cena has three moves, he can't wrestling, doesn't know how to sell, makes crappy movies, etc etc etc

Yet the guy sells millions in merchandise. Hopefully the IWC understands we mean this "-" much to profit in general. You're all fans of Orton? I bet none of you have a Orton shirt, so who cares what we think when we barely attend events or buy merchandise.

Hating on Cena or TripleHHH is becoming a little silly, it is fake after all. Heck, even with all the pushes you're IWC darlings are getting the ratings are plummeting. Perhaps we do need Cena back. :P


Posted By: JcJames (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 07:27 PM

 
 
"The People's Elbow was lame but it always followed a Rockbottom or spinebuster."

Ahhh, I get it now.. The reason the crowd would go absolutely nuts was because of the spinebuster BEFORE the People's Elbow, not the LAME elbow itself. Stupid, stupid me.

An elbow drop as a finisher could be considered lame as could a legdrop. The person doing the move + the crowd + the announcers makes the move what it is. The Rock was doing that elbow as just another move before it evolved into the full fledged 'finisher' it became.

Also, your analysis of why people dislike Cena was shallow and disjointed. I was looking forward to a reasonable breakdown of what has happened to Cena to make anyone with a penis over the age of 12 dislike him, but instead you throw in that
a) he doesn't make himself look as though he's threatened
b) how he's booked = he gets pushed to the moon
c) people tap to Cena, sometimes quickly
d) his finisher is lame

....

Please, tell me someone on 411 can do better than this, three-ish paragraphs of light-weighted commentary.

There wasn't any real build to an argument here, nor a decent conclusion.

So, you ticked me off because I expected better.


Posted By: Dots.Dots.Dots. (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 07:54 PM

 
 
After we had a streak of great columns exploring the complex facets of Cenahate and how it's sometimes unwarranted, we get this.

This was like some butthurt IWC smark's Twitter account. Fail.


Posted By: lilwayne1 (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 07:56 PM

 
 
wahh wahh wahh i dun liek him he da supamanz. grow the fuck up kid. you went from hating HHH to ignoring a truly shitty heel (jbl) to now hating cena. if you can't take it go jerk off to those 3 foot lumberjacks on wow you butch dyke loser.

Posted By: Mike Shinobi (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 08:14 PM

 
 
The People's Elbow was the bollocks.

Posted By: Scott (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 10:39 PM

 
 
The Cena problem is simple and thats the fact that they've found a dependable guy who can do "ok" carrying the company and are scared to make him look bad.

They forget that Steve Austin wouldnt have been as big as he was if guys like Bret Hart, Undertaker, Mick Foley didnt put him over and then have Undertaker, Rock and Triple H work with the guy and all seem like credible threats.

The only guy who seems to have Cena's number sometimes is Edge and he is booked to be a chicken shit bitch most of the time.

They should have gone with Cena vs Orton at Mania and tried to push Orton as The Rock to Cena's Stone Cold. Instead we are in a situation where to get a belt off of Cena he has to be chokeslammed through a spotlight. Couldnt have just done the ending from the last man standing match Jericho and Triple H had in 2000 but have Edge pick up the win and Cena instead of looking weak just looks human?


Posted By: DaveJuk (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 11:33 PM

 
 
Most comments about article shittiness true. Be carefull, you might usher in the 411 CenaLove era.

Posted By: icon zeke (Guest)  on May 08, 2009 at 07:41 AM

 
 
Even I had 2 watchable matches with cena!

Posted By: The Great Kahli (Guest)  on May 08, 2009 at 08:00 AM

 
 
"I hate when people think that if you lose a match, you lose all credibility. You don't, look at MVP. Look at Punk. Kane needed to Win that Match so the Fatal Four way made sense."

Posted By: the point? (Guest)

Yes,but with mvp the whole point was the face turn,it was a reason to get behind the dude so he got all confident again,with punk,he's gonna lose 2 ppv matches in a row and all of a sudden win a title,which makes it look like he can't win a match,let alone a title match without MITB,so it will make him look like a bitch,and it's not like they're gonna use it like mvp,what they should do is turn him heel after he wins the title so he can feud with the new face john morrison like in ECW,that would be sweet


Posted By: Guest#9055 (Guest)  on May 08, 2009 at 08:48 AM

 
 
atleast the people's elbow and atomic leg drop were electrifying unlike the fu (im not calling it by that stupid name) though i always hated the leg drop but the rock won most of his matches with rock bottom which was a much more decent move. speaking of cena's stf, it looks so weak , cena doesn't even pulls his opponents neck.

Posted By: Guest#0182 (Guest)  on May 08, 2009 at 06:00 PM

 
 
Cena is absolutely great, he lives for the business and all you people do is complain

Posted By: guest (Guest)  on May 08, 2009 at 09:02 PM

 
 
You're absolutely right about Cena's lameness and how shitty his "wrestling" is and how he constantly makes his opponent look like a joke, but you lose just as much credibility by just writing 3 short paragraphs without much of anything except for some loose thoughts.

Posted By: Guest#0147 (Guest)  on May 08, 2009 at 11:00 PM

 
 
Cena is light years beyond guys like Orton, Morrison, and Jeff Hardy people go fallatial over in terms of being a wrestling talent yet its overlooked because of how he's booked. The guy does the absolute best he can with the crap he's given to work with which is just about the polar oposite of RKO

Posted By: Guest#0763 (Guest)  on May 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM

 
 
I think you hit the nail on the head. It's not Cena or his personality that are the problem but his sloppily applied weak looking move-set and some poor booking.

If he wrestled like Angle, Joe or even Benoit it would all be MUCH more believable but most lower midcarders have better moves and are technically tighter. I think if Cena could freshen up his moves a little he would win back all respect...

And please, please, PLEASE someone get Regal to show Cena how to perform that STF correctly!


Posted By: Stratt (Guest)  on May 10, 2009 at 11:03 AM

 


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