Forgotten Favorites 05.28.09: SmackDown 2002 - Hulk Hogan vs. Chris Jericho
Posted by Jim Grimm on 05.28.2009
Hulkamania was running wild in 2002 during the Undisputed Championship reign of the Hulkster. Check out this televised title match against the very first Undisputed Champion!
Welcome back, wrestling fans. After a week off, I have returned to continue the dropping of the knowledge. I hope I wasn't missed too badly.
If you have no idea what you're doing here, allow me to enlighten you:
The evil master of wrestling history, who rules from his titanic towers of evil, takes great joy in robbing his followers of cherished memories. He has even gone so far as to wave his billion-dollar wand on more than one occasion in an attempt to completely erase particular pockets of time. Well, we, the people, have refused to stand for such injustices, and as a result, I have been called upon to right the wrongs of time.
And since I hate the wasting of the time, let's not, uh, waste any time.
Do you like great wrestling? Me too! Please continue for more!
SmackDown - May 2, 2002 Undisputed Heavyweight Championship
Hulk Hogan vs. Chris Jericho
HOW IT WENT DOWN
2002 marked many triumphant returns to WWE, but no impact was greater than the one made by the legendary Hulk Hogan. Reappearing on WWE television along with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash, the heelishly-booked Hulkster received incredible babyface reactions from audiences. Hogan wrestled one PPV match in WWE under the banner of the nWo, that beng his WrestleMania loss to The Rock, before reverting back to the red and yellow of old.
It was the night after WrestleMania that The Rock called Hogan out. Forcing him to face the admiration of the crowd, and the fact that no one wanted to see their beloved Hulkster acting like a douchebag, Rock made Hogan see that underneath it all he still bled yed and yellow. Later that night, the WrestleMania opponents were teammates in the main event, tagging against Nash and Hall of the nWo.
Also that night, newly crowned Undisputed Champion Triple H came to the ring to remind everyone of his WrestleMania victory over Chris Jericho. This led to the not-so-pleasant appearance of one Stephanie McMahon, Jericho's manager at the time. When Stephanie demanded Jericho be given his title rematch, HHH accepted under a couple of conditions. First, it was to be a Triple Threat title match, featuring HHH, Jericho, and Stephanie. And even better, if Stephanie was pinned, she was banished from WWE.
The following week on Raw it was the long-awaited draft night, where the SmackDown and Raw rosters were to be exclusively split for the first time. In the main event, HHH successfully defended his Undisputed Title by pinning Stephanie McMahon, effectively excommunicating the Billion Dollar Princess (for a little while, at least). Earler in the evening, Hulk Hogan continued his war against his former friends, tagging with The Rock once more to take on Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and the returning X-Pac.
On the April 1st edition of Raw, Triple H was presented with the brand new Undisputed Championship belt. But this dude named Undertaker took exception to the whole thing, storming out and demanding his shot at the title, citing his prior victories over the H's. It seemed that Taker was next in line for a title shot ... until three days later on SmackDown. Although Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle also came out demanding title shots, it was Hulk Hogan that Vince McMahon named as the number one contender for Backlash.
The following week on SmackDown, the Hulkster addressed the crowd regarding his Backlash title shot. He was all about giving HHH his due, at least until Chris Jericho stepped in to remind him who the real Living Legend was on SmackDown. Later that night, Kurt Angle took on Triple H in the main event, a match that would lead to a whole mess of interference both during and afterwards. By SmackDown's end, a heelishly heel tandem of Angle and Jericho stood over the fallen Hulkster and HHH.
As you might expect, the next week on SmackDown we got Angle and Jericho vs. Hogan and HHH, continuing the tension between the Backlash championship opponents while keeping Angle and Jericho mixed in there with the main event crowd. The following Sunday was Backlash, where Hogan did the unthinkable and pinned HHH to capture the Undisputed Heavyweight Championship.
With a new champion there must come a new number one contender. The April 25th edition of SmackDown was all about solving that riddle, as Chris Jericho and HHH stepped into the ring to determine the number one contender. After some interference from the Undertaker, Jericho was able to roll HHH up for the victory and earn himself a title shot.
There was no time to be wasted, as Jericho was moving right in on his title shot. One week after beating HHH, Jericho was scheduled to challenge Hogan for the title. However, before the match, Jericho had a few loose ends to tie up with HHH.
With the threat of career suicide looming, would HHH play by the rules and stay out of the title match? Could Jericho overcome the power of Hulkamania and reclaim the Undisputed Title? Check it out.
WHY IT SHOULD BE REMEMBERED
So there's this guy in red and yellow who carries an entire industry on his back for years, giving his peers an unprecedented opportunity to cross over into mainstream media. He loses his step for a couple years in other media ventures but eventually returns home to once again help revolutionize and re-mainstream his business. There's this guy named Hulk Hogan and for some reason, despite having accomplished all these things, a large portion of devout fans of his profession enjoys taking a dump on his name.
Well, I won't stand for it, kids. Not anymore. Hogan takes a lot of heat from fans regarding his behavior, all the way from critiques of his most recent (supposed) booking terms to grudges held from days of WCW past. A common complaint about Hogan is that the dude is only out to cash a check and promote himself, but there is zero validity in this complaint. Everyone is out to cash a check and promote himself, wrestlers and non-suplexing citizens alike. There's no reason why Hogan should be judged any differently from any other dude who's just trying to earn a living. Of course the flip side to the "out-for-himself" debate is the claim that Hogan doesn't care about the business or its continued success in its absence. To this I say, horse shit.
Hulk's SmackDown match with Chris Jericho is one of my many weapons aimed at the Hogan Haters. Working as the Undisputed Champion during his back comeback tour, in addition to being a damned icon, Hogan had a hell of a lot of control over the course of his career. If he called Vince McMahon aside and said he was only working one TV match a month, it would've happened. If he said he changed his mind and was strictly working PPVs, then good goddamn, that's what was going to happen. But instead Hogan did work TV matches during that time period, and a surprising number of them as well. In the case of this SmackDown match, the Hulkster could've easily told Vince that an Undisputed Title match involving Hulk Hogan was simply too big for television, and that would've been that. But Hogan did work the match, and he !GASP! seemed to care!
This SmackDown match could've easily been the textbook Hogan vs. Heel title match that we've seen over and over. And yet it wasn't. Of course, Hogan does get to Hulk Up, hit some signature spots, and display dominance, but Jericho gets in a significant amount of offense, which Hogan actually sells to the best of his old-ass abilities. When I first watched this, I wasn't expecting a Walls of Jericho spot at all (figuring Hogan's elderly qualities made him incapable of taking it), let alone the amount of time Hogan actually did spend in the hold. Jericho even has Hogan seemingly beaten with the move, and it's only the supposed imminent interference of the Undertaker that breaks the hold. And even then, Hogan wins with a SCHOOLBOY. And that sentence has nothing to do with its vaguely pedophillic undertones, but everything to do with Hogan not winning with the Legdrop. Instead of defeating the heel with the trademark Hulkster Big Boot/Legdrop combo, Hogan, hurting from the recent Walls of Jericho, is barely able to earn the victory by rolling Y2J up from behind. If you're wondering why you're feeling confused right now, it's because you just read a logically achieved victory for Hulk Hogan that put both men over. Pretty wild stuff.
When Hulk Hogan came back to WWE alongside Kevin Nash and Scott Hall in 2002, he likely had no idea how long he was going to last with the company. He could've reasonably believed that his WrestleMania match with The Rock was going to be the Hulkster's last round. In such a scenario, if following the popular anti-Hogan sentiments, you'd think that the "power-hungry" Hogan would insist on one more babyface triumph over one of the company's top heels. Instead a heel Hollywood Hogan spent three seconds on his back for the biggest babyface in the E at the time. He may have gone over Triple H at Backlash for the Undisputed Title, but Hogan lost three more times on PPV that year, a ridiculous number compared to other years of his career. He dropped the belt to Taker at Judgment Day, tapped out to Kurt Angle at King of the Ring, and put over Christian and Lance fucking Storm at Vengeance. If Hogan wasn't giving back to the business in '02, I don't know what the hell was going on.
From Brock to Edge to Angle, Hogan worked with several younger stars during his comeback
Not only does this match stand up against anti-Hogan complaints, but it's also a reasonable defense against any criticisms of the booking of Chris Jericho around this time. Despite having wrestled in the last match at WrestleMania, competing for the Undisputed Title, Jericho went without a fight at Backlash the following month. However, even though he wasn't featured on the Backlash card, Jericho remained a significant part of WWE's broadcasts, remaining one of their most over heels. And even though his title match with Hogan wasn't featured on a PPV, it was still a championship match against Hulk fucking Hogan. Holding onto the title for only a month meant that a televised title match had to be thrown in there somewhere to milk the nostalgic reign for all it was worth. When it came time to find a suitable foe for Hogan, the E went to Jericho. And in the execution of the match, as I said, Jericho got a serious amount of offense in, looking like a legitimate threat to Hulkamania. And I can't say enough about the schoolboy finish. Of all the times you'd expect a deviation from the Legdrop finish, free TV is not one of those places.
WHY IT ISN'T REMEMBERED
Hogan's reign as Undisputed Champion only lasted a month, and there are only a few standout moments for most fans. One is the Backlash victory over Triple H, where the unthinkable title win actually happened. Another is when Taker dragged Hogan around with his motorcycle backstage, and Hogan looked like the silliest of all bastards.
Another one is this:
Nastiness. Straight up nastiness.
Hogan's reign only lasted a month, and during that time he was feuding with ... a lot of people. There was HHH that he had defeated for the belt. There was the looming Undertaker who was demanding a title match. There was that pesky Kurt Angle who couldn't seem to stay out of everyone else's business. And then there was Vince McMahon always breathing down the Hulkster's neck. With all that going on, you can imagine that Hogan's short-lived rivalry with Chris Jericho is easily passed over.
Taking a look at the career DVDs that the E has released for Hogan, it seems that Vinny Mac himself may have forgotten that this match took place. The Hulk Still Rules DVD features nothing of his 2002 return, and the Ultimate Anthology DVD looks only at his Backlash match and his Tag Title victory over Billy and Chuck. Without a Jericho DVD release either, we haven't been given much opportunity to check this one out.
WILL IT BE REMEMBERED?
I'm still holding out hope for a Best of SmackDown DVD set since we're coming up on the ten year anniversary of its debut as a weekly broadcast. So maybe, just maybe, we can check out Hogan vs. Jericho on DVD. If we get a Jericho DVD sometime soon, I wouldn't be surprised to see this make it on there, considering it hasn't been released yet and a title match against Hulk Hogan is definitely a highlight of anyone's career. Aside from a SmackDown DVD or a Jericho retrospective, we might not be seeing this on DVD for a while. Therefore: YouTube rules.
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That'll do it for this week. I'll actually do feedback next week. And I kind of mean it. Until then, keep the suggestions coming. And try to stay safe and out of jail.
Enjoyed Jericho working in "Bombs Away" and the throat snap off of the ropes. Randy Savage reference = Win.
Posted By: Chief Runs With Beer (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Im sorry but this is a load of bull. During his ENTIRE origional 8 year tenure from 1984 to 1992 on top of the WWF he only put over the Ultimate Warrior. But you know you can understand that I mean who was there who deserved a title run. I mean other than Andre the Giant, Million Doller man, Roudy Roddy Piper, Mr Perfect, Ric Flair and Psycho Sid there was really no good heals for Hulk Hogan to put over.
During his run in WCW from 1992 to 2000 he put over nobody and screwed everybody from Bret Hart to Sting (and in a mastertroke of politicing manached to almost ruin both thier carears at Starcade 1997).
Yes when he came back he gave some good offence to Chris Jericho and put over Brock Lesner but
A) this does not excuse 2 decades of selfishness and burying everybody with political mindgames and
B) In 2002 hogan had no place anywhere neer the world heavyweight championship. The fact that he had a run in 2002 disgraced the title.
Posted By: awindos (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 02:03 AM
"There's no reason why Hogan should be judged any differently from any other dude who's just trying to earn a living."
I think a bigger gripe people have with him these days is how much Hogan bullshits about everything. The way he's changed and exaggerated what he thinks is the real story behind the WM3 main event with Andre is just one example.
To be upset with Hogan over not jobbing from the 1980s until 1990 is absurd. There's mountains of evidence available proving how big of a draw he was, and I think that goes without saying for most people at this point. Now, 1993 is another matter altogether...
Posted By: s1rweeze (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM
I think you mean "YouTube STILL Rules," brother.
The 2002 title run for Hogan seemed more like a gift for the fans rather than Hogan himself. The crowd shit themselves for his return, especially at WrestleMania. Hell, I was NEVER a Hogan fan and when I saw him enter the arena the night after Backlash with the gold...I marked out. I'm not ashamed to admit it, cos it was something to experience.
I'm not gonna argue for Hogan in most instances but, according to multiple sources, Hogan wanted to put Sting over clean in minutes at Starrcade and it was Bischoff who wanted the screwjob to play on Montreal.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Dang, it is easy to forget how much Hogan was doing in the WWE in 2002. Thanks for the reminder.
Posted By: NoirFan (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 01:59 PM
Posted By: awindos (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 02:03 AM
During his run in WCW from 1992 to 2000 he put over nobody and screwed everybody from Bret Hart to Sting (and in a mastertroke of politicing manached to almost ruin both thier carears at Starcade 1997).
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Actually Hogan pushed to have Sting squash him but WCW creative wouldn't have it.
I'm not the biggest Hogan fan but that statement is straight incorrect.
Posted By: Guest#1156 (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 02:02 PM
I don't think the match gets mentioned because of Jericho's burial in 2002. His Undisputed Title reign was booked as a joke despite going over Austin and Rock twice (I mean, c'mon, a TITLE DEFENSE against MAVEN?!). After Triple H buried him in their feud, it was back to the mid-card. So of course a Jericho/Hogan encounter in 2002 gets no love...at the time, even though he was a former Undisputed champ, he still wasn't taken seriously as a main eventer, let alone a threat to Hogan. Then the brand split happened and everything just got fucked.
Hogan put over Warrior, Goldberg (sorta) and Brock...NO ONE else. Hogan only sold cause he had no choice or he'd LOSE HIS JOB. Think Vince cares about Hogan's bullshit? Hell no...cause Vince only wants what Hogan wants, and that's the almighty dollar.
Posted By: Ramsey (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 03:51 PM
"...a title match against Hulk Hogan is definitely a highlight of anyone's career."
WAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
Tell that to Stunning Steve Austin. A man who came up with a program to be the "Steve-amaniac", follower of Hulk Hogan only to have that idea shot down by the bookers. I think Austin did pretty good considering he didn't have a title match against Hardcore Hoagie in his tenure with WCW and WWE.
Hell Austin's only connection to the Orange one were his Monday Nyquil skits on ECW.
But you may be right... I'm sure a match with Hoagie did wonders for everyone he faced. Just look at Billy Kidman. Or THE WALL, BROTHER!
Posted By: Smithy Blythe (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 04:02 PM
great article grimm.
hogan's tenure in '02 is my personal favorite in hogan's career.
i also forgot how damn great wwe was then.
Posted By: Csonkamaniac III (Registered) on May 28, 2009 at 04:10 PM
Im sorry but this is a load of bull. During his ENTIRE origional 8 year tenure from 1984 to 1992 on top of the WWF he only put over the Ultimate Warrior. But you know you can understand that I mean who was there who deserved a title run. I mean other than Andre the Giant, Million Doller man, Roudy Roddy Piper, Mr Perfect, Ric Flair and Psycho Sid there was really no good heals for Hulk Hogan to put over.
During his run in WCW from 1992 to 2000 he put over nobody and screwed everybody from Bret Hart to Sting (and in a mastertroke of politicing manached to almost ruin both thier carears at Starcade 1997).
Yes when he came back he gave some good offence to Chris Jericho and put over Brock Lesner but
A) this does not excuse 2 decades of selfishness and burying everybody with political mindgames and
B) In 2002 hogan had no place anywhere neer the world heavyweight championship. The fact that he had a run in 2002 disgraced the title.
Posted By: awindos (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 02:03 AM
Yeah, uh, I happened to catch an episode of TNA iMPACT or whatever its called, and even Sting acknowledged Hulk Hogan is the reason wrestling is what it is.
And very few people wanted to see Hulk Hogan lose back in the day, so why should he? It would have been dumb for Hogan's character to put those people over - the people you listed had one job to do - put Hogan over more. I'm fed up too, with people bitching and whining about Hogan not putting people over. It was the best decision for business (in his initial WWF run).
Granted, his WCW Tenure was different, but there were other factors too - like Bischoff wanting to use Bret Hart to do a Montreal style screw job. You might be a little workrate smark or mark or whatever the hell you call it, but you and your little friends are a small minority of fans. The bottom line is, your work rate heroes don't sell tickets like an ENTERTAINER such as Hogan did. And don't tell me Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart etc. were as big a draw as Hogan - all three of those men are talented as hell in the ring, and earned their reputation as great in ring competitors etc, but still, they didn't draw like Hogan. Get over it.
And Hogan's run in 2002 was not a disgrace, it was an amazing opportunity for a new generation of fans to see the man who made Wrestling popular have a brief run with the Belt. To say he had no business anywhere near the Belt is down right ignorant of you. Get over it.
Am I Hogan fan? Hell yeah. I don't find any of the new crop of Superstars - or the majority of the "work rate" wrestlers entertaining, but I don't shit all over them.
I don't care if you don't like my opinion. Cause I sure as sh*t don't like yours.
Posted By: Gentleman Jim (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 04:12 PM
Hogan going over Orton at Summerslam 2006: defend THAT, junior!
Posted By: KanyonKreist (Registered) on May 28, 2009 at 04:32 PM
Bischoff says very differently, he says that Hogan was the one that stopped the Starrcade match from being one-sided or even a squash. And he'd never be one to bad mouth Hogan unnecessarily.
Anyway, as for this match...main thing I remember is Jericho's excellent freaking out during the Hulk Up. Classic stuff, he and Billy Gunn in particular was great doing that. Hulk's late 2002 was quite fun, giving Edge a treased moment with the tag belts, putting Angle over strong (with the great line - "I lost my hair match with Mother Nature, dude.") and doing the same with Lesnar.
I don't agree with everything Hulk did but I had no problem with this stint.
Posted By: Ryushinku (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 05:02 PM
awindos,
your saying Hogan was burying people for 2 decades? Go research your Pro Wrestling History and come back and tell me who was putting the most money and the WWF's pockets during Hogans run. He lost on the house show circuit and tv tapings via count out, dq, or being pinned. just because it didnt happen as much to your liking doesnt mean he was out for himself. you stated that he really had no one else to put over but every name you list he put over as a believeable threat. not to mention yokozuna killed hogan. now WCW on the other hand let him run wild when he should have been on a leash. he made VADER look silly and hurt him on his way out the door(but WWF destroy him with no remorse) he put over Arn Anderson twice, the Giant, lex luger, sting, hell even Ed Leslie. now between 1994-1997 he had 19 losses(tv,ppv,house shows) not a lot put he was raking them up from then on. as far as your comment on his 2002 WWE Title win. why couldnt he win it? it was a harmless title change that was meant for the fans...
Posted By: Babyboy3686 (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 05:25 PM
Wasn't Jericho/Hogan, SmackDown's lowest rating ever at that point?
Posted By: Davo (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 05:31 PM
Smithy Blythe and Ramsey:
Posted By: Babyboy3686 (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 05:38 PM
First of all lets clear up starcade 1997. I would challenge anyone to present me with clear evidence that hogan wanted to be squashed by sting. However 3 books that I have read (Eric Bishoffs Book, The Benoit wrestling Curse and the Rise and fall of WCW) all have said that hogan agreed to the screwjob finish then bribed nick patrick to do a normal count thus screwing sting and bret heart because he was worried about them taking his spot. If anyone doubts that the "screwjob" finish went well all they have to do is youtube the match and that should tell you all you need to know.
Secondly I am all one for nostaliga I love seeing a superstar return for one last hurrah and I had no problem with Hulk Hogan returning in 2002 as alot of people marked out for it. There was nothing wrong with him having one more great wrestlemania match against the Rock or with his matches against Kurt Angle or his brief tag team run. But come on here people we are talking about the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. The world title should be held by the best in the world, the greatest athelete the federation has. I am a huge Rock fan, i idolised the rock I loved the rock and in 2000 rock deserved to be champion. I would love the man to come back for a few more matches and would mark out hard to see him but would I want to him to have one more run with the title NO THAT WOULD DEVALUE THE BELT as he is not the best right now and would be brought back for nostaliga. Are any one of you hulkamaniacs actually telling me 100% truithfully that Hulk Hogan was the right man to be a federations Champion in 2002. Come on people ricky steamboat came back this year why dont we put the intercontinental title around his waist for Nostalgia. My beef in 2002 was not with hogan being world champion by beef was with a man past his prime being world champion of what is supposed to be the best wrestling federation in the world and that would be just as true if the rock or stone cold came back and became champion.
Finnally I am not a complete smart I am a mark just like the rest of you and i can admit when i go a bit to far. yes the 1980's were all about hogan and his charecter made vince alot of money. If I was vince Mcmahon would i have booked it differently proberbly not to be honest so i cant really moan to much about that. However the main reason hogans charecter worked as well as it did was because he had great heals carrying him in the ring and providing opposition people wanted to see get beat and it would be nice if the hulkamaniacs out there would acknowledge that guys like million doller man and roudy rodey piper helped alot in the hulkamania years.
Posted By: awindos (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 06:30 PM
This match, like 99% of Huckster matches, was nothing special. Jericho probably had at least 100 better matches in his career. Even the Huckster might have had a few.
The only thing I remember about any Jericho-Hogan matches/encounters was Y2J countering the Shitty Ledgrop of Doom with a leg trip into the Walls and JR either calling or blogging (I can't even remember which) about Jericho's phenomenal hand-eye coordination. I LOLed. That was the weakest attempt to promote a wrestler ever. "OMG Jericho hooked a crippled old man's leg when he was moving .000001 mph! Wow, what hand-eye coordination! Chris Jericho is extraordinary!"
In closing, Hogan sucks. Always and forever. Biggest douchebag to ever lace up the boots. I hated him when I was 6. I hated him when I was 16. I still hate him today. That orange fungus just needs to disappear forever.
Posted By: Guest#5105 (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 07:30 PM
Hogan going over Orton at Summerslam 2006: defend THAT, junior!
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You're asking for the impossible there.
Posted By: RKO (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 08:45 PM
quote:
To be upset with Hogan over not jobbing from the 1980s until 1990 is absurd. There's mountains of evidence available proving how big of a draw he was, and I think that goes without saying for most people at this point. Now, 1993 is another matter altogether...
Posted By: s1rweeze (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM
This is somewhat debatable. There is also evidence that crowds like following the face tenaciously pursue the heel. By showing the heel as a proven threat, who would also stop at nothing to retain the title, the writers give fans even more reason to watch.
It arguably makes for more compelling story lines. On the one hand, you have Hogan sure to retain. On the other, you have Hogan going through hell trying to retain what is his. Sure, everybody should expect him to win in the end, but the fun is in getting there. The question of "will this finally be it?" would drive people to watch more regularly.
To put it another way, I don't think there was a single person who would have stopped watching because the title wasn't on Hogan. Besides, heroes are only as great as the villain is bad.
Wrestling was different then, but storytelling basics have remained the same. Ulysses suffers throughout the Mediterranean, trying to get home from a war that he never wanted to be in. Knights slayed dragons who had laid waste to armies. Hercules contends with what the gods threw at him.
On the other hand, Tiger Woods is sometimes thought of as being less great because he has no equal to contend with, as Palmer et. al. did.
As for Jericho in the article, the rebuttal to how he was booked was the fact that Stephanie was his manager. Jericho and title were made secondary to the Triple H-Stephanie feud. He was also made to look like a weak bitch who needed Stephanie in his corner.
Now what did one of the best talkers, best heels (and pretty good face), and skilled wrestlers (noted ring general) need with a manager? He is a heat machine and managers are used to cover up the weaknesses of wrestlers. The only weakness Jericho had (and has) is stature. That is only an issue with those who cleave to the Way of Vince.
Posted By: Guest#7912 (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 11:15 PM
"I'm not gonna argue for Hogan in most instances but, according to multiple sources, Hogan wanted to put Sting over clean in minutes at Starrcade and it was Bischoff who wanted the screwjob to play on Montreal.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on May 28, 2009 at 12:03 PM"
Could you name the said sources now ?
Cause It's the very first time I've ever read such a statement about Hogan wanting to put Sting "over" and "clean" at Starccade 1997...
Posted By: Guest#1052 (Guest) on May 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM
"I'm not gonna argue for Hogan in most instances but, according to multiple sources, Hogan wanted to put Sting over clean in minutes at Starrcade and it was Bischoff who wanted the screwjob to play on Montreal.
I call BS.
Posted By: jbardo (Guest) on May 29, 2009 at 12:22 PM