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411 PPV Roundtable Preview: WWE Extreme Rules 2009
Posted by Stephen Randle on 06.06.2009





Introduction:

What originally started as a throwback PPV to honor the contributions of ECW to professional wrestling is now WWE's most extreme Pay-Per-View, as every match that will take place in New Orleans this Sunday will contain some sort of stipulation that takes the power to end the match out of the hands of the referee and into the abilities of the wrestlers. So it only makes sense that WWE changed the name away from a veiled sexual reference to protect the children who would watch this, the most violent, explicit and possibly bloodiest of all WWE PPV's. I guess.

This time around, WWE provides us with three World title matches, plus two secondary belts on the line at the same PPV for the first time in…a long time. Throw in another stop in the long-running grudge feud between the biggest star in WWE and the biggest athlete in the world, and you've got a card primed to feature some excellent wrestling and possibly even some MOTY candidates.

And while this month's card is mostly stacked with rematches from Judgment Day, and is the third WWE PPV in the last nine weeks, the 411 Staff is still around, representing for wrestling fans everywhere, providing our picks for the former One Night Stand PPV.

The Staff

Stephen Randle, The Wrestling News Experience

Julian Bond, Against The Grain

Dan Torkel, Brooklyn Brawlin'

Andy Clark, The Shimmy

Robert S. Leighty, From The Bowery

Andy Critchell…um…does he even work here?

Jeremy Thomas, 411 Movies/TV Hush-Hush News Report

Rob McNew, live Raw recapper

Michael Weyer, Shining A Spotlight

Ring the bell, let's get to the card.

WWE EXTREME RULES 2009


Vickie Guerrero © vs Santina Marella - Winner Is "Miss WrestleMania" - Hog Pen Match


Stephen Randle: And so we've just about hit that inevitable point every time WWE creates a comedy character that's actually funny. You know what I mean, it's the point between "hey, that's funny" and "hey, that used to be funny, but then you put it on TV every week to diminishing returns and made it a centerpiece of the show when at its core it's a one-note comedy bit that should never have been taken this seriously". See: Eugene, Ron Simmons, The Boogeyman, Hornswoggle…and the list goes on. Anyway, this will be painful, and really, nobody wins.

Winner: Santina

Julian Bond: Hehe…some people may call this match pure crap…but I think that it's the funniest stuff I've seen in wrestling in a long time. I believe that Santina will go wild on Guerrero and take his…oh…I mean her Ms. Wrestlemania title back.

Winner: Santina

Dan Torkel: I do NOT care about anything dealing with Raw at this point. Thank god they included the Fatal 4-way. I really don't care and hope they both lose, but on ppv, I think the paying audience wants to see Vicky get abused so I'll go with Santina.

Winner: Santina

Andy Clark: OK, I'm been pretty bored with most of the Santina stuff (save WrestleMania) but this could actually be somewhat entertaining. Or completely awful. One of the two. Anyhow, Santina needs to stay alive so she can win the Diva's Title and feud with "Chavita" over the belt.

Winner and NEW Miss WrestleMania: Santina Marella

Robert S. Leighty: The crowd will eat this up as they do with just about anything involving Santino. The man is gold in these types of segments and on the mic. I expect a bigger payoff to the Santina angle, so I guess it continues a while longer.

Winner: Santina

Andy Critchell: Obviously this is only here for comedy and while some people hate paying for comedy in PPV matches, the comedy is not usually up to the level of Santino/Santina. Basically, the guy is money. And besides, people will enjoy seeing Vickie get pushed around in the mud. It is also likely to be very quick so in the grand scheme it's no harm, no foul.

Winner and NEW Miss Wrestlemania: Santina

Jeremy Thomas: The crowd may love this whole Santina thing, and bless the man for making it work as well as it has, but I absolutely hate it. Originally I was sure that Vickie would walk away with the win as it would mean that this whole Santina bullshit was finally over, but as strongly as Vick's been put over I'm afraid that was probably wishful thinking on my part. Instead, Santina gets the win and this whole thing keeps going. You know, since they wouldn't want to give Santino a chance to wrestle as a MAN and gain credibility. What sickens me most is that Santina will probably win with a fluke roll-up (it might as well be his finisher by now) and thus he won't even get a dominating win over a non-wrestler who's been in and out of a wheelchair for the past year-plus.

Winner: Santina Marella (fluke roll-up: NEW Miss WrestleMania, gods help us all)

Rob McNew: I absolutely love this kind of stuff. Sue me. This has been arguably the most entertaining part of an admittedly lackluster product on Raw the past month or so. I think here the outcome is quite obvious, and that's Vickie wallowing in the slop.

Winner: NEW Miss Wrestlemania - Santina Marella

Michael Weyer: Just...let it be quick.

WINNER: Santina

Umaga vs. CM Punk - Samoan Strap Match


Stephen Randle: Fool me once (vs Kane at Backlash), shame on you. Fool me twice (vs Umaga at Judgment Day), shame on me. Then you go and give away the match on Smackdown, featuring Punk getting his ass kicked around the ring and hitting a lucky GTS for a win, and I know, you won't be fooling me thrice.

Winner: Umaga

Julian Bond: This should hopefully be a sick bout and hopefully end up being the sleeper match of the night. I think that Punk puts on one hell of a fight and BARELY gets the win to push him further up the ranks.

Winner: CM Punk

Dan Torkel: Now I do NOT get this but according to SD spoilers, Punk beats Umaga with GTS clean. Two days before the ppv? I guess they figure even the score and make the ppv the tie-breaker. Punk has a two-ppv losing streak, and holds the briefcase, thus being the defacto # 1 contender. Punk really has to go over here and the gimmick shouldn't hurt Umaga's monster status.

Winner: CM Punk

Andy Clark: After SmackDown we are tied 1-1 with these two. If Jeff Hardy wins the title, which I think he might, I see a Hardy-Umaga feud, especially after their brief staredown last week. I also see Edge possibly ending up with Punk's MITB briefcase to try and help save Raw. With that being said Umaga should get the win here in what I guess will be considered his specialty match.

Winner: Umaga

Robert S. Leighty: It would be sweet if they tried to pull off a Sting/Vader vibe here. Punk needs to get a PPV win, and this seems like a good place. This could be a sleeper match of the night if they are given time to tell their story.

Winner: CM Punk

Andy Critchell: I have actually found this feud to be fun (just like everything else on the Blue Brand) and something tells me that this match isn't going to be the end of it. Besides, WWE still wants to get Umaga over as an unstoppable monster heel and what better way to accomplish that than in a brutal strap match?

Winner: Umaga

Jeremy Thomas: Punk lost at Judgment Day, so he has to win here. No, really...when I say he has to win, I mean he HAS to win. If he's to have any credibility in time to cash in that Money in the Bank shot by WrestleMania, they've got to stop giving him high-profile losses. The good news is that we should get a pretty good match out of this and beating Umaga in a strap match will elevate Punk a few more steps toward the main event.

Winner: CM Punk

Rob McNew: Sounds like this is the lamer touch all four corners type of strap match rather than the much better "beat the shit out of your opponent then pin him" strap match. Hopefully the lights from Great American Bash '04 stay in the warehouse. These matches all end the same way. Heel drags face around the ring touching the corners, but the face is also touching them as they go around. They get to number four, and through various means the face is able to touch first. This one will be no different.

Winner: CM Punk

Michael Weyer: These two are capable of a real hard-hitting battle and the strap makes it even better.That the stip is in his name might give the edge to Umaga but I think Punk gets the win to keep his streak going en route to cashing in MITB.

WINNER: CM PUNK BABY!

The Big Show vs. John Cena - Submission Match


Stephen Randle: Really not sure why they bothered giving Cena the win last month if there was a rematch in the works, because they even had an injury angle to explain the loss. Quite frankly, if my guess is true and we're just killing time until Triple H returns to take the belt from Orton, Cena's going to need some way to kill time, and I'm not sure that they can get any more blood from this stone. Of course, I'm not sure there's anyone else for him to bother with that could be considered a credible threat (I'll believe in Miz when he actually wins a match on Raw), but maybe WWE knows something I don't. Maybe.

Winner: John Cena

Julian Bond: I honestly was surprised that Cena got the win last month with his whole sold injury. But I think that it was ultimately the case to have him now be absolutely destroyed by Show here. If Cena wins, then I personally think that it would take a little bit away from Show's "indestructible" look he's been excellently sporting in the last few months.

Winner: Big Show

Dan Torkel: OK, I was SURE Show would win at Judgment Day with Cena's injuries, and Super-Cena prevailed. Now ALL COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC has Big Show going over strong here, or else they risk destroying any credibility he has left. But... we are talking about Cena here. And the story this last month has been that Cena just cannot get the STFU on Big Show and thus "has no way to win." As we all know, when Cena has no way to win, he ALWAYS WINS! I hope I'm wrong.

Winner: John Cena

Andy Clark: John Cena works so much better as the champion, and until they get him back in the title picture most of these matches will be boring. Add in the fact that it probably won't be very good and you have one hell of a double threat. Cena finally locks in the STF(U) and gets the big man to tap.

Winner: John Cena

Robert S. Leighty: I'm kind of torn here because Cena won the last meeting a month ago. I'll take Cena just because it's Cena. As for the match it could be horrible or it could be decent. A short match where both men go balls out could be entertaining, but a longer match with each man selling submission holds may bore me to tears. The crowd will probably be hot for this though.

Winner: John Cena

Andy Critchell: This feud has been largely boring in my eyes. I like Cena and I like Show but they don't seem to have any chemistry at all. I'd like to see them work to pull out a great match but this stipulation is going to make that very difficult. Anyway, it makes sense for Cena to go over here as I think he is next in line for a shot at Orton and Cena needs to look strong for that.

Winner: Cena

Jeremy Thomas: They've built this one really well between Cena and Show coming off Cena's win at Judgment Day. The big story has been "Can Cena put a guy as big as Show in a submission h0ld?" and it's been booked to seem like a challenge Cena can't overcome. This, of course, means he will overcome it and somehow he'll put Show into the STFU. However--and I know this is a long shot--I see the Miz coming out at that point and distracting Cena, which will cause Show to escape the hold, after which he hits Cena with the knock-out punch and camel clutches him for the win. Even if it doesn't happen, that would be the way to book this finish that makes sense.

Winner: Big Show (Camel Clutch following Miz-erference)

Rob McNew: I was all set to pick Cena in this one just based on the obvious way the feud has been booked, but then something occurred to me. Someone is going to eventually take the title off Orton. Either Cena, Batista, or Trips most likely. Once this occurs they will need heel challengers other than just Orton. Who is left? Miz? Show needs to be kept strong, so my guess is in a mild upset he chokes Cena out in the camel clutch thing that he's been using.

Winner: The Big Show

Michael Weyer: They've done a good job showing how Cena has trouble getting Show in the STFU and build it up as a real threat match. The odds seem to be for Cena to win but with Kennedy gone, they need someone to elevate for Orton and Cena just came off the main event program so maybe Show manages to get Cena in a choke hold of some sort to make him pass out and elevate him.

WINNER: Big Show


Kofi Kingston © vs. MVP vs. William Regal vs. Matt Hardy - Fatal Four Way


Stephen Randle: I'm not sure why we had to suddenly change the title on Raw, but good for Kofi, who has really flown under the radar as a guy who has come really far in very little time. Hopefully, this means MVP moves up to the main event while Kofi matches up with Matt and Regal and…I'm sure there's someone else.

Winner: Kofi Kingston

Julian Bond: Thank God!!! Both the US and International title look like they're finally getting some value and time again. This match should be awesome as hell, especially after the showing MVP and Kofi put on this past Monday. Kofi should make for a great US champ and gets through his first defense here.

Winner and STILL US Champion: Kofi Kingston

Dan Torkel: Thank god they put this on PPV. They have sweetly built this feud over the past few weeks, and despite an inexplicable title change on Raw, this should be a fun 10 minute match. I sincerely doubt they change the title twice in one week, but who knows. I am just glad this is on PPV.

Winner and Still US Champion - Kofi Kingston

Andy Clark: This match should be really good but I wonder why they didn't just save the title change for the PPV. Kofi wins since he just got the belt but if I were going to be wrong with that selection then I might pick Matt Hardy as the second favorite. If given time this match could be the second best of the night.

Winner and STILL United States Champion: Kofi Kingston

Robert S. Leighty: I see no reason to have Kofi drop the strap only 6 days after winning it. This should be a fun match and these four have been the best part of RAW since the Draft. MVP seems to be on his way to the Main Event, and Regal seems to be playing the Finlay role of badass to throw out there with the young guys. That leaves Hardy and Kofi, and I'll go with Kofi.

Winner and STILL US Champion: Kofi Kingston

Andy Critchell: This has potential to be a sneaker MOTN. All 4 guys bring something different to the match and all 4 guys should mesh very well together. That being said, this match could be hurt by the fact that Kofi as the winner seems like a foregone conclusion as he just won the belt on Monday and a 6 day title reign would look pretty shabby for the young guy. I don't think WWE would undercut Kofi like that.

Winner and STILL US Champion: Kofi

Jeremy Thomas: This has potential to be a show-stealer if given enough time. Also, can I just say how much I love that both the Intercontinental and United States Titles are on the line in the same Pay-Per-View? All four of these guys have shown they can work well together, and I'm seriously digging the possibilities here. Kofi just won the title so there's no reason to hot-shot it to someone else yet; I say Kofi pins one of the heels and then feuds with the other in the following weeks.

Winner: Kofi Kingston (Trouble in Paradise on Hardy; STILL WWE United States Champion)

Rob McNew: While the match on Raw was outstanding I'm not sure why they just didn't do the title change here. Kofi didn't win on Monday just to drop the strap on Sunday, so its pretty obvious he picks up the victory here to retain.

Winner: STILL WWE United States Champion - Kofi Kingston

Michael Weyer: I like Kofi as champion and am surprised they did the switch on RAW.I dont' see them being so crazy as to have him drop it only a week and all four guys should make this a terrific match. In the end, they'll help Kofi go over and retain and build himself up again as a rising star.

WINNER and STILL US Champion: Kofi Kingston


Rey Mysterio © vs. Chris Jericho - No Holds Barred


Stephen Randle: This one could go either way, but I just think there's more options for feuds with Jericho holding the belt, plus the possibility of a "title vs mask" match at the next PPV. So, can we get Jericho to help book more feuds than just his own?

Winner: Chris Jericho

Julian Bond: This match should be a very good one judging from what was seen last month. I think that here Jericho, despite not needing the belt at all and being at the top of the card, takes the strap here to create what I believe a great chase for Mysterio. I think that by having one of the top heels carry the formerly disregard IC belt, it will automatically raise the profile of the title even more than before. Hopefully this leads to a "mask vs. title" match at the next PPV.

Winner and NEW IC Champion: Chris Jericho

Dan Torkel: Another well built feud coming off a very good PPV match. I think another loss by Jericho may actually start to hurt his credibility, and Rey is super popular and thus does not need the title. I love that Jericho and Rey are putting a focus back on the once prestigious IC Title.

Winner and NEW IC Champion - Chris Jericho

Andy Clark: This match should be an awful lot of fun. This feud has been good so far and after watching Jericho's out-of-the-crowd beatdown on Rey last week I'm more stoked for this match. I was originally going to pick Rey to retain, but if they plan on getting Rey's mask involved in all this then Jericho would have to have something to put up against the mask, so I suppose the title could be it.

Winner and NEW Intercontinental Champion: Chris Jericho

Robert S. Leighty: They stole the show at the last PPV, and they could very well do the same thing here. I like the stip because it adds to the match and gives Jericho a chance to show a violent streak. I think Jericho is above the IC Title, but no man has held the title more and a title win is a title win.

Winner and NEW IC Champion: Chris Jericho

Andy Critchell: This has a lot more obvious potential to be the MOTN. Both guys have worked really hard to make this feud matter. Neither guy really needs the belt to get over but the fact that two guys of their stature are fighting over it makes the belt seem all the more valuable. That being said, I think it makes more sense for Jericho to get the win here and then maybe move to a feud with MORRISON (or another young up and coming guy) than it would be for Rey to keep it.

Winner and NEW Intercontinental Champion: Jericho

Jeremy Thomas: Pretty simple here, folks. Jericho doesn't need the Intercontinental Title, and Rey Rey's doing it a world of good since he's moved to SmackDown. These two will have a great match that will have some decent spots in it and probably some good psychology, but I think that Jericho's obsession with removing Rey Rey's mask will cause him to ultimately lose, letting Rey take the belt and move on to face Dolph Ziggler and other midcard-to-upper midcarders.

Winner: Rey Mysterio (619/West Coast Pop; STILL Intercontinental Champion)

Rob McNew: I think Jericho delivers a brutal beatdown of Mysterio here to take the strap, but somehow Mysterio keeps his mask because WWE isn't dumb enough to make that mistake…are they? Jericho takes the gold and forces Mysterio to put the mask on the line at The Bash to get his rematch.

Winner: NEW WWE Intercontinental Champion - Chris Jericho

Michael Weyer: We know these two can give some terrific matches and this should be no exception. I see the feud continuing with Rey's mask involved and thus Jericho can get the belt here to put something up for it. So expect wild action and Jericho using the stip to batter Rey down and get the belt one more time.

WINNER and NEW Intercontinental Champion: Chris Jericho


Christian © vs. Jack Swagger vs. Tommy Dreamer - Triple Threat - If Dreamer Loses, He Retires


Stephen Randle: Very few men have had more success in this business by losing than Tommy Dreamer. Hell, the centerpiece of the guy's career is a two-year feud in which he never, ever beat Raven until the final match. He came back from training in OVW for the ECW revival and stayed on far longer than anyone believed, and I'm pretty sure it's time for the last ECW Original to ride off into the sunset. Meanwhile, Swagger's time in the sun is over with the rise of the Hart Dynasty, and it's time for the traditional "cooling off period" that follows any rookie push.

Winner: Christian

Julian Bond: This should be an interesting bout since all three participants have been having some pretty good matches with each other as of late. At first I was thinking that Dreamer might get one last ride with the ECW Championship, but sadly I think that this PPV instead will be his final swan song for his retirement. Considering that he instead could have just left the sport sadly without even a mention makes him retiring at this PPV, which technically wouldn't had existed if not for his efforts in the original ECW, a pretty good thing.

Winner and STILL ECW Champion: Christian (with Dreamer retiring)

Dan Torkel: There is NO way Dreamer wins here. Despite that, I feel he will receive the stand alone in the ring farewell he deserves for his contributions to the industry and ECW. I think Christian pins Dreamer and shakes his hand, that allows for Swagger to still get another rematch.

Winner and Still Champion - Christian

Andy Clark: This is a tough one. Jack Swagger seems like he should get the title back, but the only fresh face for him to defend against would be Evan Bourne, unless Mark Henry turns. I don't see Dreamer retiring, but I really can't see him winning a World Title, regardless of whether it is the bastard World Title or not. Christian makes the most sense to retain as there are plenty of heels to defend against, but if he wins then that retires Dreamer and that's not a great thing for a face in his position. I think I'll go with Swagger to get some real heel heat on him for ending Dreamer's career and winning Christian's title, and we'll get a rehash of the Swagger-Finaly feud for at least a month.

Winner and NEW ECW Champion: Jack Swagger

Robert S. Leighty: I am a sucker for happy endings, so the sentimental sap inside me is picking the upset with Tommy Dreamer. Christian probably retains, but the ECW Title is the 3rd tier of Main Titles, and letting Dreamer have the strap for a few days won't hury anyone. Have Swagger murder the guy for the title a few days later, but give us a nice moment this Sunday.

Winner and New ECW Champion: Tommy Dreamer

Andy Critchell: Christian and Swagger have been really good as opponents this year and adding Dreamer to the mix should make the match a little more interesting. I still think Christian goes over for two reasons: 1. Dreamer has no value as champion and 2. when Swagger does eventually beat Christian it should be one-on-one.

Winner and STILL ECW Champion: Christian

Jeremy Thomas: Yes, I know this is a one-in-a-million chance, but I have to go with my heart here, and my heart wants to see Dreamer have the title for one last time. I know the guy never wanted the belt in ECW and I know what his role has always been in the companies he's worked for, but it would be a fitting send-off to see him pin Swagger to win the title, retire on ECW and put the belt up as a vacancy and let ECW have some sort of 4- or 8-man tournament for the belt. Is it going to happen? Hell no. But I can dream, and that's how I'm picking it.

Winner: Tommy Dreamer (DDT on Swagger; NEW ECW Champion)

Rob McNew: Tommy will put up a valiant effort in his swan song, but as always will come up just short. Christian retains the gold again, Swagger will whine, and Tommy will cry. Christian moves on to feuding with the Hart Dynasty, Dreamer moves on to indy bookings, and Swagger…well I don't know where they go with him from here except maybe a brand switch somehow.

Winner: STILL ECW Champion - Christian

Michael Weyer: This is one time where the retire stip will work as Dreamer just doesn't have the backing or in-ring ability to hang now. But he should do a good job helping Christian and Swagger out and while seeing Swagger get it back can help the feud, I think Christian retains.

WINNER and STILL ECW Champion: Christian


Edge © vs. Jeff Hardy - Ladder Match


Stephen Randle: It's also hard to predict this one, but I'm starting to believe that WWE has decided to stop with all the World title changes (and not ten or twelve moments too late). Plus, unless the Punk heel turn is imminent, and I don't see it, I don't think he'll be cashing against Jeff Hardy. Although that would be a matchup we haven't seen.

Winner: Edge

Julian Bond: Last month I was complaining that I really didn't care for this redo of this feud that was already done a few months ago, but now I'm honestly digging it especially with ladder match history between the two being a main focal point. I really don't know who to pick because this bout could do either way with Edge losing (and eventually regaining once again later) and Hardy winning the belt again or Hardy taking another loss more than likely due to his brother Matt interferening AGAIN (possibly dragging that feud all the way to Summerslam) and Edge winning to move on to a feud possibly with Jericho or Punk. I flip a coin and will go with Edge.

Winner and STILL World Heavyweight Champion: Edge

Dan Torkel: I do not think they are giving Hardy the title right now. Especially with a budding feud between Jericho and Edge brewing. Edge needs to keep the momentum here and winning his match helps that.

Winner and Still Champion - Edge

Andy Clark: This is another tough one. I feel like Jeff is going to win the title before his contract runs out, if only for a short run because the smarks won't suspect it, but Edge is the master of the heart-snatching victory. I was planning on going with Jeff to set up a Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga title program, but I'm reconsidering a bit at this point. I suppose I'll go with my gut, but I wouldn't be surprised to be wrong.

Winner and NEW World Heavyweight Champion: Jeff Hardy

Robert S. Leighty: Edge was finally involved in a PPV Title match where the title was defended successfully last month. This should be a sick match, and both men will go out there and kill themselves for my enjoyment. They are both extremely (pun intended) familiar with this type of environment, and I expect big things in this match. No reason to take the strap from Edge at this point though.

Winner and STILL World Heavyweight Champion: Edge

Andy Critchell: Now this is the match that I feel has the most potential to be MOTN, for obvious reasons. We all know how awesome both guys are in ladder matches so there is really no need to go into that. Hardy could win but with his contract status up in the air plus with WWE's desire to not hot-shot the titles around; I'm looking for Edge to retain here.

Winner and STILL World Heavyweight Champion: Edge

Jeremy Thomas: You know what? I don't think Hardy's leaving the company at this point, and I think any rumors to that effect are the 'E trying to work the IWC. And I think it was to set up this match. If there's ever been a more appropriate place for Day-Glo to win the belt it's at Extreme Rules, and Edge's title reign has been a long one when compared to his other reigns--after all, he actually made it past a Pay-Per-View. This will be a wild and crazy spotfest with both guys busting out their top moves, and in the end I see Jeff pulling out the victory.

Winner: Jeff Hardy (Ladder Grab; NEW World Heavyweight Champion)

Rob McNew: Edge couldn't possibly retain the title two pay per views in a row could he? Why yes he could. Edge pretty much owns Jeff, and they seem to be interested in giving him a legit run with the title for a change. The title is pretty much Edge's gimmick, and Hardy doesn't need it to be over.

Winner: STILL World Heavyweight Champion - Edge

Michael Weyer: This one should be a terrific match all around. It's tempting to go with Jeff here as it seems overdue but I just can't see it happening. Not just to give the belt more stability but it just seems to me like WWE has lost some faith in Jeff in the top spot. It should still be a great match with Edge retaining.

WINNER and STILL World Champion: Edge


Randy Orton © vs. Batista - Steel Cage Match


Stephen Randle: So, does the feud end here with an Orton win, or end with a Hell in the Cell once it becomes apparent that Steel Cages haven't stopped interference for well over twenty years. Anyway, not that it's a huge shock, but Batista's probably not winning a World title anytime soon.

Winner: Randy Orton

Julian Bond: Should be a good solid match here. Orton again retains here through notorious means and I believe then after, especially with Ric Flair's sudden return, will move onto an "Evolution" feud with a returning HHH.

Winner and STILL WWE Champion: Randy Orton

Dan Torkel: They better give Batista a rub soon, or else he will just be a complete joke. I think Flair and Triple H make their presence here to counter Legacy and thus give Batista another short title run. Orton can claim foul and set up the inevitable triple threat with him, Batista, and Triple H.

Winner and New Champion - Batista

Andy Clark: Well if Monday is any indication Orton shouldn't have to worry about Batista climbing out of the cage. Batista is the only man in WWE history to lose a World Title in a cage match, so he already has a dubious cage past. I'm hoping this Steel Cage Match can deliver the goods as well as Batista's match with Edge two years ago, and I'd be expecting a similar result. Orton's holding the belt until at least Night of Champions if not SummerSlam (depending on when Triple H returns or if they actually decide to use Cena) so Big Dave's luck runs out here.

Winner and STILL WWE Champion: Randy Orton

Robert S. Leighty: All we now need is Batista vs Flair in a cage match, and we will have every combination of Evolution in some kind of cage match at one time or another. This could be good, but they crowd could also shit all over this depending where it is placed on the card. I wouldn't let this match follow the Ladder match. As for a result, I expect Orton to retain and move on to MVP, or at least someone who wasn't in Evolution.

Winner and STILL WWE Champion: Randy Orton

Andy Critchell: Ugh. Talk about a feud gone wrong. Batista has brought almost nothing to the table against Orton and Randy is not at the stage yet when he can make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Look for Orton to retain simply because Batista hasn't done anything is this feud to inspire confidence in anyone that he'd be a good champ this time around.

Winner and STILL WWE Champion: Orton

Jeremy Thomas: Words can't describe how much I loathe the way this feud's been booked. Orton looks like shit and he can't even beat on a sixty year-old man without Legacy's help at this point. This is a Steel Cage match to keep people out, so of course interference will be involved. I think it's 'H, who comes back and nails Batista with his sledgehammer to cost Batista the belt so that the Game can be the one to take it from Randy and thus we can have our Three-Way Feud where Orton gets buried by BOTH Batista and Hunter. Who, me cynical? Why would you say that?

Winner: Randy Orton (Game-erference; STILL WWE Heavyweight Champion)

Rob McNew: Please god Randy just punt that oversized piece of garbage half way across the cage so we can end this brutally boring feud and move on. Is that too much to ask? I'm sure Orton wins, but I just hope he does so in a way that doesn't allow Batista to enter his cheat code and get another title shot next month.

Winner: STILL WWE Champion - Randy Orton

Michael Weyer: With Kennedy gone, the future of Orton's reign is a bit uncertain. It doesn't help this feud has been pretty badly booked and the crowds haven't responded well. The blowout here should be okay but nothing really special with Orton retaining and hopefully they've got something lined up for him afterward.

WINNER and STILL WWE Champion: Randy Orton

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    4 out of 9 people saying Big Show will win after the announcers have made a point of saying that the odds are against Super Cena?

    ...where have you all been the last 5 years?


    Posted By: Guest#7000 (Guest)  on June 05, 2009 at 11:52 PM

     
     
    Does anyone think that they should put Tommy Dreamer as the GM of ECW instead of him wrestling?

    Posted By: Garrett (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 12:04 AM

     
     
    Normally, I manage a push on picking winners, Wrestlemania and Backlash notwithstanding, so here are mine for Extreme Rules:

    Santina over Vickie. God-awful. Hopefully a shorter time than my soul slowly dying watching the match.

    Umaga over Punk. Wish it wasn't, but Umaga needs to be strong to be fed to Undertaker. Should be really good and brutal.

    Cena over Show. Should be boring as hell. Might actually be worse than Meet the Spartans. Cena wins the match by finally locking Show in the STFU.

    Kingston over MVP, Hardy, and Regal, with Regal being pinned. Kind of tossed on the PPV, but should be really good for the time given. Kofi should retain, as it does not make much sense for him to lose it after a one-week reign. He ain't Mick Foley, for God's sake.

    Jericho over Rey. I think Jericho wins here to get the IC belt to put it up against Mysterio's mask at GAB (fuck calling it the Bash). Should be mind-altering awesome.

    Christian over Swagger, Dreamer, pinning Dreamer. Gotta hand it to Dreamer. Great career, great man, and shows it by being a company man and taking the fall for Christian. Hopefully a great match for a true hardcore legend.

    Orton over Batista. Thought this match was gonna suck like Judgment Day, but with Orton punting Flair, this could be better with Batista raging the fuck out on Orton and Orton hits a move and scurries out of the cage to retain.

    Here is my upset pick: Jeff Hardy over Edge. Edge never really has long title reigns, and I am honestly surprised he didn't drop it at Judgment Day. A lot of people didn't pick Hardy at Armageddon and he PINNED Edge to win the WWE Championship, and I say that WWE swerves us yet again and gives us a great moment to top an epic ladder match from two of the best to ever participate in a Ladder Match.

    Should be a really good PPV WWE, don't TNA it by fucking over a great PPV with horrible booking decisions!@


    Posted By: TheEndofAllThings (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 12:05 AM

     
     
    Damn 4 title matches? WWE in 09 may not be its heaviest drawing year but they are serious about building new stars. Kudos WWE. I am a happy camper

    Posted By: Guest#5650 (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 03:15 AM

     
     
    My ECW idea: Dreamer wins (despite Tiffany turning heel and siding with Swagger); Dreamer retires, vacating the title; WWE "ruling board" (or whoever) deem Tiffany's actions inappropriate, strip her of GM duties, making her Swagger's manager/mouthpiece; Dreamer is installed as new GM and sets up an 8 man tournament with Christian, Swagger, Finlay, Bourne, Henry, Kozlov, DH Smith and Kozlov to crown a new champ.

    Posted By: John (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 04:32 AM

     
     
    Will CM Punk trade in the briefcase for a third attempt on Edge's title? I can see Edge retaining only to walk into the GTS.. setting up a fatal three way.

    Vickie doesn't belong in a wrestling match and Chavo is a jobber. I would've liked to see Beth Phoenix overhead press Santina and toss him/her into the announce table. That would be cool. Like Thunderlips on Balboa. Beth teases the move but I don't think she ever sent anyone flying.


    Posted By: Chris336 (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 05:19 AM

     
     
    Wow this PPV looks terrible.

    Posted By: Jake G (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 06:14 AM

     
     
    "Does anyone think that they should put Tommy Dreamer as the GM of ECW instead of him wrestling?"
    Interesting idea. The only problem is I think Vince really wants to distance ECW from its roots and get us to accept it for what it is.A more entertaining version of velocity and/or Heat.I would love to see it,but I will not be holding my breath waiting for it to happen.Blue is not a good color for me.


    Posted By: fanboi13 (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 06:56 AM

     
     
    Punk and Raven had an awesome dog collar match, so wouldn't the strap match be an extension of the dog collar gimmick? if so, then Punk has proven that he can have fantastic matches of this type. hopefully this 'samoan strap match' isn't the lame touch all 4 corners variety, and it'll be epic.

    Posted By: Guest#4635 (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 07:52 AM

     
     
    I think we'll see Edge retain and Batista win, but Batista's reign will be another short one (likely until the Bash), and Edge's reign will end at Breaking Point.

    Posted By: Bimmy (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 08:31 AM

     
     
    they've made a big fuss over "how the hell can cena get the stf on the big show?" (ignoring the fact he did it in 2006, when show was far bigger than he is now), so i still think cena winning with the stf is more likely than show winning because the miz interferes, although i do prefer the latter idea

    Posted By: DaJ (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 10:00 AM

     
     
    BIG SHOW vs. cena, cena wins coz The Miz gets his revenge against BIG SHOW and this leads to their feud.

    And Matt Hardey wins the US Championship.


    Posted By: who caares (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 10:02 AM

     
     
    wwe is kind of selling that big show has never tapped out. i dont know, i can clearly remember chris benoit making him tap out in late 2003 but for obvious reasons wwe wil never mention that.

    Posted By: Guest#3051 (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 10:03 AM

     
     
    Santina wins.
    Umaga wins.
    Dreamer wins then surrenders the belt & retires anyway
    Kofi wins
    Cena is Super Cena
    Edge wins
    Orton Wins


    Posted By: M:-X (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 10:59 AM

     
     
    Wow this PPV looks terrible


    Bet it made your day posting that didnt it?


    Im really looking forward to the show, the smackdown matches all look good & the ecw & us title matches should be decent.


    Posted By: jbardo (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 11:15 AM

     
     
    Santino (but no one wins really)
    YOU-MANGA
    Cena via different submission hold
    Kofi
    Jericho
    Dreamer
    Edge
    Orton


    Posted By: CJ (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 12:21 PM

     
     
    It's time to go to the extreme for the WWE for Sunday night's PPV, "Extreme Rules." On tap, we get three World Title Matches, a possible retirement and a hogpen match all staged in gimmick matches ranging from a steel cage to a ladder match to the aforementioned match in a hog pen.

    Let's run it down as TCN sees it -

    * - Miss WrestleMania Hog Pen Match: Santina vs. Vickie Guerrero w/Chavo Guerrero
    First off, I could not care less about see Vickie Guerrero in any match whatsoever. Let's just see the only reason for this match is the comedy of Santino, ooops, I mean Santina and to remind us that Triple H once had to "wrestle" in this type of match back against the Godwinns in the 90's. Since it's on the card, we'll tell you that Santino will of course get his revenge here for last Monday night's slop drop by Miss Guerrero. Somehow, I think that Chavo gets a taste too.
    Winner: New Miss Wrestlemania Santina

    * - Samoan Strap Match: Umaga vs. CM Punk
    Kind of surprised that they had these guys face off in a one-on-one match on Friday night's Smackdown, but it does make a little sense to make it one win a piece heading into the grudge match this Sunday. CM Punk has lost two straight PPV's and he's lost the luster since winning the MITB match at Wrestlemania 25. He gets it back, not without getting a beating though in avenging last month's PPV lost to the Samoan Bulldozer.
    Winner: CM Punk

    * - Submission Match: The Big Show vs. John Cena
    All signs point to a Cena win here. Just the fact that every announcer has put TBS over, saying that there's no way Cena can put the STFU on him should give us a sign that an upset is coming against the seven foot giant. Logic tells us that TBS should squeeze the life out of Cena, but we all know different. Maybe we'll get a run-in from The Miz that costs TBS as well.
    Winner: John Cena

    - US Title Fatal Four Way Match:: Kofi Kingston (champion) vs. MVP vs. William Regal vs. Matt Hardy
    I have two schools of thought for this one. It would be so easy to put the title back on MVP or Matt Hardy and forget about Kofi's one night of glory. But, why not give the Jamaican Jumping Bean a little run and keep the US Title for a bit against a bunch of challengers. Let him take on the likes of The Miz, Hardy, Regal, TBS while working his way to superstar status.
    Winner: Kofi Kingston

    * - No Holds Barred IC Title Match: Rey Mysterio (champion) vs. Chris Jericho
    Three words: Jericho is Champion! This one is only in its early stages of its feud where ultimately, Mysterio will put his mask on the line at some point. Sunday night, Jericho reclaims the spotlight for his record 9th I-C Championship and reverses his latest PPV loss to the little wonder from the 619.
    Winner: New I-C Champion, Chris Jericho

    * - ECW Title Extreme Rules Match: Christian (champion) vs. Jack Swagger vs. Tommy Dreamer
    Fans of the old ECW, me included, could certainly see the storyline of Tommy Dreamer winning the ECW Title in his last match, but that just wouldn't fit TD. He's not a champion. He's a guy that puts his life on the line for a great match for the fans. That he'll give to us in this one. He won't win and he will move on just as Vince wants us to move from the old ECW and forget what is was all about. Time for Christian to move on to his next challenger. Can you say Christian vs. Evan Bourne next?
    Winner: Christian

    * - World Title Ladder Match: Edge (champion) vs. Jeff Hardy
    This should be the match of the night right here. Edge and Hardy always put on a good show and it seems like Edge never seems to hang on to his title all that long. This one should culminate the feud and give us definitive proof that Jeff Hardy is going to sign a new deal with the WWE.
    Winner: New World Champion, Jeff Hardy

    * - Steel Cage WWE Title Match: Randy Orton (champion) vs. Batista
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, Batista just doesn't have it to be the WWE Champion. Randy Orton has owned him and will do it again in this one. If Batista really wanted Orton that bad last Monday night, just climb over into the cage instead of watching him like a wounded puppy dog after he put out your mentor, Ric Flair. I fully expect Triple H to show up and do what Batista could not, beat the tar out of Orton for kicking the sh*t out of Flair on RAW. Unfortunately for Batista, it won't help him out as Orton still walks out the champion.
    Winner: Randy Orton

    If you like what you read, there's more at "The Crowe's Nest."


    Posted By: The Crowe's Nest (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 02:45 PM

     
     
    The Great American Bash World Heavyweight Championship: Jeff Hardy(c) vs. Edge vs. Chris Jericho
    I'm calling it.


    Posted By: ihaveaname (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 04:20 PM

     
     
    I'm surprised that people don't understand why Kofi won the title on Monday. It seems simple to me. It helps him more to get a big win over MVP one-on-one than it does in the fatal four-way. And the fatal four-way is happening to solidfy Kofi's win and to get MVP on PPV.

    When Orton beats Batista he'll go on to beat MVP at The Bash and Night of Champions. That'll kill time so that Hunt0r can return for the next WWE title match at Summerslam. This scenario is a set up to put over both Kofi and MVP as big time players on RAW.

    ---

    Wow this PPV looks terrible.

    Posted By: Jake G (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 06:14 AM

    Oh lookie. A troll. You guys are so adorable. If this PPV looks terrible then you have what are quite possibly the most unrealistic expectations.

    Show/Cena and Orton/Batista don't seem like home runs not to mention the Santino/Vickie mess but that's hardly enough to say the entire PPV looks terrible. The other five matches are all good/great on paper at the very least.

    ---

    A lot of people didn't pick Hardy at Armageddon and he PINNED Edge to win the WWE Championship, and I say that WWE swerves us yet again and gives us a great moment to top an epic ladder match from two of the best to ever participate in a Ladder Match.

    Posted By: TheEndofAllThings (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 12:05 AM

    I'm sorry but... what? Are you kidding? In 2008 people picked Jeff Hardy to win the WWE title at the Royal Rumble, Unforgiven, No Mercy, Cyber Sunday, Survivor Series AND Armageddon while I quietly sat back and laughed. Everyone was falling over each other picking Jeff to win the title at each and every opportunity.

    I'm not sure about tomorrow's outcome but I have to comment about last year. The vast majority of people were always picking Jeff.


    Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 06:13 PM

     
     
    "If you like what you read there's more at The Crowe's nest"

    Pretty sad that if in fact that is another wrestling site that you came to this site to advertise your sub-par opinion compared to those of 411mania. I'm sure if anyone from 411mania went to your site it would be to examine what not to do when it comes to writing a well thought out opinion. At least you tried though and that's admirable.


    Posted By: Idiot Police (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 06:35 PM

     
     
    I see edge Retaining, and Rey beating Chris... This will prompt chris to complain heavenly on Smackdown this will bring edge out to celebrate, this will cause jericho to be jealous and attack edge... I want a Face turn of Edge.

    Posted By: Nutt Butt3r (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 06:48 PM

     
     
    Julian Bond & Dan Torkel need to realize that Cena isn't "Super Cena" anymore and get over it.

    Posted By: THE TRUTH (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 09:16 PM

     
     
    Santina v. Vickie - No one wins. What a waste of space. Santina.

    Umaga v. CM Punk - Punk

    Big Show v. Cena - Cena, never bet against Cena. Plus once Big Show claimed he was ditching his slave name he became pure WWE jobber.

    Kingston v. MVP v. Regal v. MHardy - Kingston

    Jericho v. Rey - Rey

    Christian v. Dreamer v. Swagger - Dreamer will win mark my words. He will either retire next night on ECW or take a vicious career ending beating forcing the title to be put into a tournament.

    Edge v. JHardy - Edge, altho I want JHardy to win

    Orton v. Batista - Orton


    Posted By: MyPredictions (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 09:44 PM

     
     
    Julian Bond & Dan Torkel need to realize that Cena isn't "Super Cena" anymore and get over it.

    Posted By: THE TRUTH (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 09:16 PM

    He isn't? How so? Cena was given the World title for three pointless weeks just so he could say he had another WrestleMania title victory. It took a fresh Big Show throwing him through a searchlight in order to lose again. He's won all of his recent matches on RAW. He beat Show at Judgment Day despite the fact that he was supposedly insanely injured.

    How is THAT not Super Cena? Please enlighten me on what has changed recently to make that moniker go away.


    Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest)  on June 06, 2009 at 10:43 PM

     
     
    I'm sorry but... what? Are you kidding? In 2008 people picked Jeff Hardy to win the WWE title at the Royal Rumble, Unforgiven, No Mercy, Cyber Sunday, Survivor Series AND Armageddon while I quietly sat back and laughed. Everyone was falling over each other picking Jeff to win the title at each and every opportunity.

    I'm not sure about tomorrow's outcome but I have to comment about last year. The vast majority of people were always picking Jeff.

    Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 06:13 PM

    Actually, in spite of your amazing ability to always be right, there were few people that were thinking jeff would win at armageddon, with the rumble and wrestlemania around the corner, many were believing the E would give a big ppv spot for his first win....at least that's what i was reading in practically every column on here...but i suppose since YOU were calling jeff to win it then that means everyone was...or you are just super brilliant.........or just a super douche


    Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 01:39 AM

     
     
    Santina vs Vickie. Santina. The comedy may be wearing a bit thin, and people dislike it on ppv, but it still has legs in the current raw landscape. It gonna be Vickie wallowing in the mud.
    Umaga vs Punk. Tough to call. Both HAVE to be booked strong.Umaga with a spike just before the fourth corner to win it while Punk shows "testicular fortitude" in doing the traditional "face follows for three corners then hits the fourth first" routine would work for me.IWC pisses and moans is a side benefit.
    TBS vs Cena. Cena wins.Until he doesn't sell more merchandise and generate more money than any other wrestler the booking will remain the same.
    Fatal-four-way. Kofi wins. MVP passed the torch and is on his way up. The belt has to have meaning to have value and Regal/Hardy can feud him later.
    Rey vs Jericho. Jericho wins. We be building towards mask vs title.
    Triple threat. Swagger wins. Dreamer was the ultimate JTTS/face who just came up short in ECW, and would probably get more satisfaction from getting heat for Swagger than a sympathy title.Mega heat for the heel, an open-goal for whichever face avenges you.Old school is cool.
    Edge vs Hardy. Jeff wins.
    Just loving how the Jeff Hardy contract situation has added intrigue and value to this.It should be replicated in kayfaybe next time.Every fan wants Jeff to win, and every smark is "will he, won't he?"
    Jeff wins to allow the other programmes to develop makes most sense. If Edge wins,CM Punk has to go over Umaga clean quickly, weakening Umaga, or cash-in after losing, weakening the belt.It's possible, but I see Umaga getting squeezed out by Punk and being saved for the Morrison mega-push, Punk squeezing past him and feuding with Edge later and a bitter Edge killing off Hardy before his break after losing to get us to the summer.
    Orton vs Batista. Orton wins.His demise is being saved for later.


    Posted By: makeo (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 05:04 AM

     
     
    Go on Flair make my day screw Batista and join Legacy

    Posted By: lk25 (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 06:45 AM

     
     
    decent ppv here... hardy/edge should steal the show with a hhh return in my opinion. other winners will be santina, kofi, y2j, umaga, cena, dreamer (still retiring) and orton. hopefully.

    Posted By: terry w (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 09:36 AM

     
     
    I wonder if they will have Cena debut a new submission move. Getting the Big Show to tap will help get it over.

    Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 10:12 AM

     
     
    Wow this PPV looks terrible.

    Posted By: Jake G (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 06:14 AM

    Don't watch!

    Then you can stop bitching!!

    Of course, if you REALLY wanted to change things you would go and get a job at WWE and try and get your ideas on TV but that won't happen because you will just sit in your little shitburg and bitch about everything.

    Those who can't do, BITCH!


    Posted By: oh shut the hell up! (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 01:28 PM

     
     
    I'm surprised that people don't understand why Kofi won the title on Monday. It seems simple to me. It helps him more to get a big win over MVP one-on-one than it does in the fatal four-way. And the fatal four-way is happening to solidfy Kofi's win and to get MVP on PPV.

    When Orton beats Batista he'll go on to beat MVP at The Bash and Night of Champions. That'll kill time so that Hunt0r can return for the next WWE title match at Summerslam. This scenario is a set up to put over both Kofi and MVP as big time players on RAW.

    ---

    Wow this PPV looks terrible.

    Posted By: Jake G (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 06:14 AM

    Oh lookie. A troll. You guys are so adorable. If this PPV looks terrible then you have what are quite possibly the most unrealistic expectations.

    Show/Cena and Orton/Batista don't seem like home runs not to mention the Santino/Vickie mess but that's hardly enough to say the entire PPV looks terrible. The other five matches are all good/great on paper at the very least.

    ---

    A lot of people didn't pick Hardy at Armageddon and he PINNED Edge to win the WWE Championship, and I say that WWE swerves us yet again and gives us a great moment to top an epic ladder match from two of the best to ever participate in a Ladder Match.

    Posted By: TheEndofAllThings (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 12:05 AM

    I'm sorry but... what? Are you kidding? In 2008 people picked Jeff Hardy to win the WWE title at the Royal Rumble, Unforgiven, No Mercy, Cyber Sunday, Survivor Series AND Armageddon while I quietly sat back and laughed. Everyone was falling over each other picking Jeff to win the title at each and every opportunity.

    I'm not sure about tomorrow's outcome but I have to comment about last year. The vast majority of people were always picking Jeff.

    Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 06:13 PM

    Julian Bond & Dan Torkel need to realize that Cena isn't "Super Cena" anymore and get over it.

    Posted By: THE TRUTH (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 09:16 PM

    He isn't? How so? Cena was given the World title for three pointless weeks just so he could say he had another WrestleMania title victory. It took a fresh Big Show throwing him through a searchlight in order to lose again. He's won all of his recent matches on RAW. He beat Show at Judgment Day despite the fact that he was supposedly insanely injured.

    How is THAT not Super Cena? Please enlighten me on what has changed recently to make that moniker go away.

    Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 10:43 PM

    Dude!

    Enough already!

    All you do is attack people on this site!

    We all know how cool you are and your opinions are the only ones that matter so PLEASE just STOP!

    You really need to get a life and get off of this website.


    Posted By: Give it a rest! (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 01:38 PM

     
     
    ?!?!? lol Funny comments from both cause I actually like Cena (check out my past two "Please Don't Hate" columns defending the man heavily) and I was honestly only using basic booking logic to said Big Show should win. Cena's cool as shit, but Show doesn't need to lose anymore cause it would kind of sort of take away from the good build-up that they had of him as a super-monster heel...that's all.

    Julian Bond & Dan Torkel need to realize that Cena isn't "Super Cena" anymore and get over it.

    Posted By: THE TRUTH (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 09:16 PM

    He isn't? How so? Cena was given the World title for three pointless weeks just so he could say he had another WrestleMania title victory. It took a fresh Big Show throwing him through a searchlight in order to lose again. He's won all of his recent matches on RAW. He beat Show at Judgment Day despite the fact that he was supposedly insanely injured.

    How is THAT not Super Cena? Please enlighten me on what has changed recently to make that moniker go away.

    Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on June 06, 2009 at 10:43 PM


    Posted By: Julian Bond (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 02:14 PM

     
     
    Santino/a
    Umaga
    Cena
    Kofi
    Jericho
    Dreamer
    Edge
    Orton


    Posted By: buckleyisagod (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 03:35 PM

     
     
    Dreamer wins the new ECW championship the same way he won the old ECW championship. I see him pinning Swagger after a DDT and during his victory celebration in the ring, CM Punk cashes in the MITB briefcase to become the new ECW champion and making Tommy a one-night champion.

    Posted By: Grunion (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 05:17 PM

     
     
    It will not matter how good this p.p.v. is or how bad they screw it up. Someone will scream bloody murder either way. If it isnt the diehard E fans[myself included...history books are written by the winners guys] or the RoH fans [ i was nice there so return the favor] who are still angry over the Ric Flair deal and will shit all over it. Someone will be unhappy . But if i may interject something here, Does anyone think that Edge, Orton, and Jericho will all win at this show. This is the W.W.E. we are talking about....Even though i think all 3 of these guys are just kind of meh[ i am a little biased and these guys are all just variations on the same theme cocky heel...where have i seen that before?....oh yeah ......everywhere. Give these guys something better than what they have. Sure Randy Orton has his jobber tag team stable to back him up, and Edge is the steal the belt guy. and Chris Jericho is once again going after the Intercontinental strap, and if this was 1990 i would say great. But Other than that the only people who care are the same guys who squeal when they give the ball to the proven stars....the internet wrestling community...A group of semi smart marks armed with all the wrestling knowledge that they can find on wiki-pedia, a bag of cheetos and a six pack of full throttle....truely the greatest homage to Comic Book guy in history...A veritable army just waiting for the chance to say ...WORST MATCH EVER....

    Posted By: old school fan (Guest)  on June 07, 2009 at 07:27 PM

     


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