Ask 411 Wrestling 06.17.09: Girl on Girl Love, Girl on Guy Hate, and John Cena loses to… ERIK WATTS???

This is Ask 411 Wrestling.

You probably already knew that, given the title of the page and such, but still, just making sure you are aware of this fact.

I’m Mathew Sforcina, and I’d like to get straight down to business, but I’ve been ordered blackmailed paid asked very nicely to ask you, loyal reader, to sign up or hook on or whatever the bloody hell the relevant term is to 411Mania’s many and varied Twitter accounts. After all, if you do so…

I dunno. But it’ll stop the bosses yelling at us about it, and that’s all I care about.

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I probably should talk about Misawa, but frankly what little I know about him (beyond him being Unhappy a bit on the Forums) means I could never do him justice in any way shape or form for those who do know about him. So I’ll just express my condolences, along with the rest of 411.

Backtalking

Kick-out, Cover, Pinfall: Apparently this came up before in Ask 411, and the infamous Sabu/Terry Funk Barbed Wire match had this, because after the kick out they realised that they were so tangled up in wire they had to end it. So Manu tells me, and I’m not about to watch the match to find out, in that if Paul Heyman think’s it’s over the top with the violence, there’s a problem.

Goldberg in the Gimmick Battle Royal: I’ve had outside confirmation that it is indeed Gillberg who was announced then pulled, probably to avoid the crowd expecting Goldberg. So there you go.

Escaping Things: All WWE caskets are similar to the containers Magicans use in their tricks. There are trap doors and such. And the Concrete thing with Paul Bearer involved editing, they filmed video of him in the concrete before the show then used a stunt guy for the PPV itself.

Your Turn, Smart Guy…

Yes indeed, Earl Hebner was the correct answer. Esoteric was for the fact that it wasn’t a wrestler as such. And HHH was an actual feud, Canada is just hate/hate. And “You Screwed Bret” doesn’t have Earl’s name in it, now does it?

Bit of a twist this week, I’m hoping this works. The following are a list of letter equation puzzles. Basically these work in that you have to work out what the letters stand for. For instance, “52 = C in a D” means Cards in a Deck. “7 = D in the W” is another easy one, Days in the Week. The following is a series of Wrestling ones. And for the purposes of these questions, Company names (WWE, TNA, WCW, ECW and so on) are considered one word, if only to have some challenge in it.

5 = M of the O FH
4 = F W H C (TS, MM, TR and B/H)
3 = F of F (4 with MF himself)
27 = W E C (if you count RVD)
10 = HH’s W T T
6 = SW
2 = W of the W that are in W (ATG and C)
1 = M-T R W C (AA)
1 = D in K’s W T R.
6 = P in an EC.

Questions, Questions, Who’s Got The Questions?

So, I start making some headway into the question backlog, and I get 30 new ones.

*facepalm*

Ok, let’s get to it.

To begin with, Absolutus has 2 questions.

1. During WWF’s Attitude Era, was everything Stone Cold Steve Austin has done a part of his character, or did he get some sort of special treatment. And by everything I mean the whole beer thing, raising middle fingers, or flipping Vinnie Mac off and stuff like that.

It was his character. Austin is in real life a beer drinking, swearing Texan, and in the Attitude era the more successful characters were, as a rule, the real life person with the volume turned up to 11 as the saying went. So you could say, I guess, that he got some sort of special treatment, but then again it was all designed to appeal to the teenagers/middle aged men who liked beer, swearing and really wished they could beat up their boss. So it was his character.

2. Does anyone in the world of professional wrestling still use the three suplexes? The kind Benoit and Angle used to use?

Well Angle still uses multiple Germans, I believe, but no, the practice has died out a great deal, thankfully. Germans aren’t the safest nor softest suplexes to take, especially how Benoit took them. I’m sure someone somewhere still uses multiple suplexes of some sort, but on a grand scale they are gone. The original Dynamite Kid rolling verticals that Eddie used are ok though, but again, that’s not used on any big time stage at this point.

Kenny has two unrelated questions.

I am a long time fan of this column since I am like the answer guy for wrestling with my friends, though you seem to blow me out of the water. Anyways I recently bought the Hell in a Cell DVD and was watching the classic Shawn vs. Undertaker one when I noticed something out of the corner of my eye. When the Undertaker literally threw Shawn out of the ring you see a black rose right where he lands. Do you know anything about that cause I have no clue.

Let’s review the tape once again. Because you just can’t see Shawn Michaels bleed enough, can you.

Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker (Hell in a Cell Match) part 1

Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker (Hell in a Cell Match) part 2

The rose is at the 17 minute mark of the first video. I think what you will find is that an Undertaker fan threw it at the ring prior to the cage coming down. There were a couple of plants during Taker’s feud with the Million Dollar Corporation (who were not, as some people claim, Shane and Stephanie) who had a big wreath of black roses for the missing Undertaker, this was during the period of time with Taker having his Creatures of the Night. Hence the black rose, which in all probability was just tossed into the ring as the cage was lowered. It would make sense, as someone would toss it at Shawn as he hung around the ring as the Cell lowered.

I was reading over the top five column this week and watched one of Aja Kong’s matches from when she wrestled in the WWE. Near the end of the match I saw her use a package piledriver, like the one that Kevin Steen uses not the Powerbomb like version CIMA uses. I was just wondering who invented the Package Piledriver?

In all probability it was Aja Kong. I have a tendency to joke that 95% of all Wrestling moves were invented by Japanese Women, and this sort of thing is part of the reason. Aja Kong is the earliest known user of it that I could locate, so in all probability she invented it, or was the first person to use it and thus gets the credit either way.

Matty A has some questions for us. Or rather, for me.

Thanks for answering my questions once again

1. Why did ‘Stone Cold’ Steve Austin walk out of his scheduled match with Jonathan Coachman at Taboo Tuesday 2005?

Because he was asked to job to Coachman via interference from Mark Henry, PLUS there were no plans to eventually get JR his job back. For those of you who forgot this period of time, Coachman was a heel at this point, and new lead commentator on Raw after Vince fired JR, Coach having Vader and Goldust as his back up for the match, which was meant to be Austin fighting for JR’s job, but which ended up being Batista V Coach for no real reason. The build up/match was also memorable for Vader falling over a few times.

Vince was sure that he could make a heel PBP/Face color commentator thing work, but after the Coach experiment failed and the Styles test run worked at Taboo Tuesday, they switched to a three man booth with Coach, Styles and King.

3. A few weeks ago, I was watching the main event of WWE SummerSlam 1999 which was ‘Stone Cold’ Steve Austin Vs Triple H Vs Mick ‘Mankind’ Foley for the WWE Championship. After I watched it, I went back and read a review of this show for nostalgic sake. When reading it, I found an interesting piece of information that came up in the review which stated: ‘Backstage before the show, inside word was that Austin did not want to drop the title to the planned winner of the match HHH’. People believe that Mick Foley only won this match to be the ‘middle man’, as he dropped the title to HHH the next night on Raw. So here’s my question, why did Austin refuse to drop the title to HHH?

Because he felt that he had more to give than losing a three way. Austin seems to have gotten this vibe around him recently where people think he refused to job all the time. It’s not that true. For instance, this falls into the same category as to his refusal to lose to Brock. He didn’t object to lose to either man, just the circumstances didn’t fit. Losing to Brock in the King of the Ring tourney with no build up on Raw was a little silly. Austin/Brock could have helped make Brock, and deserved to be on PPV. Likewise, Austin had no problems putting over HHH (as he did a couple months later at No Mercy), it was just that in a three way it would have been less impactful.

And, as another factor, remember that Jesse Ventura was the guest ref. Thus it may not have been a great idea to force Jesse into raising the hand and thus being photographed with a cheating bastard who hits people with sledgehammers.

4. Has there ever been a PPV where; A. All the faces win, and B. All the heels win?

I don’t recall a PPV where all the heels won (talk about a bummer of a card), but there has been at least one bone-headedly booked PPV where every face won, funnily enough, it’s Taboo Tuesday 2005, where the faces went over in every match, including the Mankind/Carlito one that was the most obvious candidate for a heel win on the card. Although I think Steph has at booked at least one more All Face Winner show, but I can’t recall it off hand. But hell, even the final Nitro had one heel winning…

5. And finally, why does Vince McMahon hate the word ‘Wrestling’ so much?

Because Wrestling holds him back. If he runs a Wrestling company, then he’s some two bit carny operator, not the media powerhouse he wants people to think of him. Hence Sports-Entertainment, hence all the Did You Know crap, Vince is DESPERATE for mainstream acceptance, something that he will never get.

APinOz has a bunch more questions for the group.

Are we likely to see any storyline resolution to the collapsing set episode of Raw when Vince gave away a million bucks and then the set fell on him? Was this supposed to be some nefarious sabotage perpetrated by a disgruntled employee?

Apparently not. Unless WWE does a sudden call back to get someone over as a really nasty person, they seem to be going with the collapse being just an accident. Which I suppose makes sense on some level, I mean, not everything has to be a plan, but still. The idea seemed to be that Steph was the culprit, given her reactions and such after the incident, but given how much the WWE has rebooked this year, that’s long gone.

Is there a business-driven reason why the WWE have switched the world title every month since (I think) October last year?

I’m sure they are justifying it to themselves on that level (having lots of champions means lots of Main Eventers and thus lots of merch sold, and makes people want to buy PPVs to see the title changes), but really, the WWE is booking 2 weeks ahead at best. Plus injuries have derailed them at some points.

When Raw and Smackdown were first separated by a draft, they were booked as totally separate entities, with announcers from each show disparaging the other. There were no “Raw Rebounds” on Smackdown and vice versa, and wrestlers from one show never appeared on the other. Why did this change? And was this carve-up of the roster the original idea Vince had for WCW when he bought it?

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Well, if you want the full explanation for the reasons and logic behind the Brand Extension, I can refer you to the excellent In Defense Of… on the subject.

Suffice to say that the idea was to create two totally different brand names, with their own live shows, stars, merchandise, and then eventually have the two brands become as big as the old solo brand, and thus make more money for everyone. Create a Raw market, a SD market, and if anyone double-dipped, great. That was the idea, and at first the WWE went full hog into it, hence the eventual fixed rosters and such.

But then WWE noticed that all the extra PPVs and such weren’t making as much money as they were hoping, and ratings went down, even after adding in ECW. So, did they fire all their Hollywood writers and get wrestling back to it’s roots since the current soap opera crap wasn’t working? Of course not, they just totally killed the idea behind the Brand Extension on PPV in an attempt to sag the buyrates, and had wrestlers pop up all over the place to do the same to the TV ratings.

I wish I could put a Perry here.

Now, as for if this was the idea after WCW was bought… There are two conflicting schools of rumor/’fact’.

The ‘facts’ that most people agree on states that Vince tried to get WCW running as a separate entity, and basically have the Brand Extension concept running in 2001, but no-one would give WCW air-time, due to the brand being ‘tainted’ since everyone thought WCW sucked. There are people who swore that the arena they worked at had a WCW Nitro booked for some point in mid-2001 and such. So the official answer is “Yeah, pretty much”.

An alternate view, one that doesn’t require you to believe that Vince had an intention on pushing WCW in some way, is that the Brand Extension was an idea of, of all people, Vince Russo. This view states that it was an idea Russo pitched in his 2002 cup of coffee with the company. I’m not sure that’s accurate, but I include it in case someone yells at me about it.

But pretty much once WWF realised they had a roster far too big for one sole company to use, they had to do something with them.

With the WWE going for PG ratings, they have seemed to have banned blading? But is a wrestler bleeding in a match more affronting than one getting slammed through a searchlight and having it explode? Or getting kicked in the head? Or hit with a sledgehammer?

Well, Flair seems to bleed whenever he wants, but yes, blood is less prevalent nowadays. And by a weird quirk in the US rating system, you can argue that going into a searchlight IS less affronting. According to the MPAA, a PG-13 (which you’d say the WWE was aiming for) broadcast can have violence, quote: ‘There may be depictions of violence in a PG-13 movie, but generally not both realistic and extreme or persistent violence.’

Now, once you get past the whole “Wrestling Matches are violent and persistent” speed bump, you’re left with the twisted view that getting tossed into a searchlight is not at all realistic, it’s cartoonish, and thus is more OK than bleeding, which is very realistic.

Not that I agree with that concept, but there is a long history in the US of bloodless shooting being less offensive than blood being spilt when someone breaks a leg or something. So blood is out (they go greyscale in repeats normally now), but sledgehammers and such are all right.

I have almost certainly used this video before at some point. But this old school Botchamania is still my favorite, thanks to the last 2 minutes, and the awesomeness that is….

DRAGON

DRAGON~!

Tarek has some questions that are all over the place.

Thanks for replying to all my questions.

I have a further three questions:

1. How does HBK make that noise when he superkicks someone?

Next time HBK does a superkick, watch his right hand, assuming he does the kick with his right leg. You’ll see that it slaps his thigh right at the point of impact. That is how superkicks (and big boots) usually make the noise, you slap a part of your body at the point of impact. Mostly it’s the thigh, some guys use the butt. It’s personal preference.

2. When Batista finally turned on Triple H and powerbombed him thru the table were people in the IWC a huge fan of the feud and how it played out? I thought it was a great feud what did you think?

I thought it was well done, considering that it was something of a back up plan after they botched Randy Orton’s face run. And I believe that the IWC was generally of the opinion that it was pretty cool, with the slow, long build up and the pay-offs. The Thumbs Down was very well received, as can be seen in the Forum’s Live Discussion of the show in question. The IWC was generally in favor of it, yes.

3. Why is it that wrestling on 411wrestling.com never features on the homepage with a photo? This years Wrestlemania result/opinions/columns were not well advertised on the homepage that goes for any wrestling related topic/story why is that?

Well, I’ve seen it get some photos, but generally, 411Mania is still, deep down, a mostly wrestling site. Nothing against the other sections, but they must admit that we’re still mostly seen as a Wrestling site, most of the hits come from Wrestling. Ergo, we don’t need to push the wrestling, since most people are already here for that. Come for the wrestling, stay for everything else.

Next up is ollyparris who asks about Erik Watts. Joy.

Hi

I found a bunch of old clips of WCW Worldwide circa 1992 on Youtube, some of which included early matches involving Erik Watts. All had non-finishes or were incomplete matches. Thinking back, I definitely remember Erik using the STF as a finisher, but before that I’m sure I remember him using some kind of fireman’s carry into a slam and pin… was Watts using the STFU and Attitude Adjustment/FU as finishers some 10 years before Cena?

Thanks for any light you can throw on this

Well, as much as I don’t want to give fodder to the Anti-Cena fans… He kinda was. Clash of the Champions #21, November 1992, in a match that saw Erik Watts team up with Kensuke Sasaki in a bounty match against Arn Anderson and Bobby Eaton with Michael PS Hayes as their manager. It was a bounty match because Paul E Dangerously, nee Heyman, had put $10,000 up for anyone to cripple or injure Erik Watts.

Hmm. Make a ‘Heyman is broke’ joke or a ‘Erik Watts Sucks’ joke? Decisions, decisions…

Regardless, in this match, Erik wins with a submission off of Bobby with the STF. And during his ‘hot’ tag, he does indeed rip off a rather sad looking Fireman’s Carry Slam.

So, yes, Erik Watts at one point used a two move set up that was somewhat similar to Cena’s. But I do not take responsibility for anyone drawing comparisons between the two.

From Watts V Cena to Lesbian Stalkers, DarkNightwolf101 asks about the latter.

I remember weeks before Mickie James debuted as a wrestler on Raw, they had a story line of her being this really big fan of Trish Stratus following her everywhere and such, and then turning on her. They are currently running a similar storyline with Rosa Mendez and Beth Phoenix. My question to you is:

1. Has the WWE ever ran a storyline like this before, and if so what is the reason behind it ?

Yes, the WWE has run the ‘Stalker Fan’ angle before, namely with Sable and Tori. Although that one was slightly different.

In the Sable/Tori version, Sable was at the end of her feud with Luna Vachon. At the 1999 Royal Rumble, the two had one last match, a Strap Match for the WWF Women’s Championship. Sable won the match thanks to a ‘fan’ interfering, that being Tori.

At this point, things deviate, because Sable then turned heel, getting an ego as the hype around her Playboy spread took off. She debuted Sable Inc, and was basically the egotistical bitch most of us remember. As part of this, she berated and put down Tori, who then began to team with Luna, who also turned face out of the mess. This led to the Sable/Tori match at WMXV, which saw Nicole Bass debut as Sable’s bodyguard.

WWE seems to like the angle, probably because it’s somewhat simple and has the whole ‘Lesbian Overtones’ that 12 year old boys who can’t get porn online enjoy.

411’s own Dan Torkel from Brooklyn Brawlin’ has a question.

Hey Matt,

It’s Dan Torkel from Brooklyn Brawlin on 411. I noticed while watching 24/7 that Earthquake (Tenta) had a huge tiger tattoo on his upper arm. Then it occurred to me that Big Show has if not the same a very similar tiger tattoo his arm as well. Is this a coincidence or was Paul Wight doing this in tribute to a fellow big man?

It appears to have been a coincidence. Big Show got the Bengal Tiger tattoo at some point between his leaving WWF TV in 2000 and his return at the 2001 Royal Rumble, where the Tiger was now firmly on his arm.

John Tenta did indeed have a tiger on his own arm, it being a Louisiana State University Tiger, up until he became The Shark in WCW, when he had the thing changed into a shark, which took hours and ended up with him not being the Shark a month later.

None of Big Show’s universities have a tiger for a mascot, and he and Tenta, while they did work together in WCW for a brief period, were not friends. And the only other alternative, that it may be a tribute due to John Tenta’s fight with cancer, is impossible since Tenta was not diagnosed until 2004.

So it’s a case where Tenta had it due to his University, Big Show because it’s cool looking.

Conor has a few questions as well.

1.Was Randy Savage originally suppose to win World War 3 in 95? Because I have heard stories of the Giant and Sting where both chosen ahead of Savage but it was Hogan who objected and wanted Savage to take the title. Now that was true (the Hogan part that is) then why did Hogan do that crap finish where he was pulled under the ropes but the ref didn’t see it and assumed he was out?? I mean he wanted Savage to go over but then does a screwy ended like that?

Well, putting aside the issue of Hogan’s politics for a moment, that ending makes some degree of sense in that it was a repeat of the 1992 Royal Rumble, where you wanted Hogan to be the wronged hero. In this case, The Giant pulled him out and cost him the title, leading to the Hogan/Giant cage match at SuperBrawl VI in 2 months. It worked just as well as it did in 1992 (i.e. not at all), but that was the idea.

As for the politics, I’m not sure what you could be referring to… Oh wait, yeah I do.

Apologies for the slightly crappy video. The interesting stuff is at 7 minutes, although the funny starts earlier.

Now, Randy Savage DID have an arm injury, a torn triceps, a.k.a that injury Batista is currently out with again. Which makes the claims all the more bizarre, and the booking even weirder, since, you know, who’d be silly enough to put the world title on a guy with a torn triceps.

*cough*

But hey, at least we have Hogan’s seal of approval, right?

2. Bret Hart book stated that Rick Rude left the WWF in 1990 because he got less pay for Summerslam 1990 while he opponent that night the Ultimate Warrior got more money. Now this is the first I have heard of this. I thought he got fired because he sworn on TV while in character. Which one is true or you believe?

The money. I’m sure WWF probably used swearing as an excuse, but it was a contract dispute. Rude was too valuable a guy to let go over such a trivial thing as swearing, and they were building up to a Rude/Boss Man feud. And swearing’s not THAT big a deal, after all…

Mean Gene Okerlund – Fuck It

3. While watching Botchmania the one with Art Donovan, people where leaving comments saying why would Vince let him at the announcing table threw the night because he was so bad. But am I right in saying Vince wasn’t at that PPV because that was around the time of him being on Trail? Is it that why Gorilla Monsoon was commentating that night? My question is, did Vince agreed to Art being there even if he wasn’t there and who was in charge then to allow it?

Keep up the good work!

Any excuse to post a video! (The bosses like videos.)

Although if you can get through that entire final half, you have a much higher threshold of crap than I do.

But yes, Vince McMahon was absent due to his being on trial for Steroid Distribution. Although on the night, they claimed that he was recovering from neck surgery, which legally, he was. Very well timed neck surgery, since it allowed him to wear a neck brace throughout the trial which I’m sure had nothing at all to do with him trying to look mild-mannered and put down upon.

Now, the announced team was to be Randy, Gorilla and Vince, Art replaced Vince. As for who made the call, it was probably Vince, or at least Vince agreed to Pat Patterson’s decision since he was the de facto head of the WWF during this time. And it didn’t seem like a bad choice, in that Art was, at the time, a popular and funny talk show guest. It’s just that a whole PPV of him, when he clearly had no prior knowledge of the company or the sport, was the problem. But picking him would be like, say, getting someone in the media who’s somewhat hot in the media like Donald Trump to take over one of your brands for a little while.

Er….

My Damm Opinion

For his help before, Manu gets some questions.

Can you think of any NWA/WCW stars who went to the WWF and achieved the same amount of fame? Keep in mind, I’m not asking about the same level of fame, such as Flair winning the world title in both organizations, but rather, the same amount – Flair was the biggest star in the NWA/WCW for a long period of time, over and over, but in the WWF, he came and went pretty quick.

Multiple names come to mind that didn’t achieve the same amount of fame in the WWF- Steiners, Vader, DDP…..well, most, if not all, of WCW that came over at the end – Booker, Scott Steiner as an individual wrestler, the Road Warriors, the Powers of Pain.

Some would say Luger and Ron Simmons achieved greater fame, despite neither holding the WWF title. I disagree, but for the purposes of this question, let’s not include them.

So – anyone you can think of that was big in WCW (Jericho was fun, but was never big in WCW) and achieved the same amount of fame in the WWF/E? Hell, even Nash, who was big in the WWF before being big in WCW wasn’t as big when he went back to the WWF.

Wellllllllllll, The Big Show springs to mind. World Champ in WCW, World Champ in WWE. Mostly a Mid to Upper-Mid card guy who flirted with the main event in WCW, same in WWE. Sure, his WWE run is a lot longer, but then if you want similar time frames in both companies you’ll never get it.

This of course stems from the old adage that if Vince didn’t make it, he doesn’t want to know about it. If they got over in WCW, then they better be something damm good if he’ll push them in WWE.

Down the card you could argue that a guy like Dean Malenko and/or Perry Saturn got the same level of treatment pre and post Radicals. Maybe Torrie Wilson if you’re feeling generous. But Big Show would, in my mind, be the best answer for the question.

Unrelated – why is it wrestlers get so pissy when fans have knowledge of their private lives (HHH flipped me off when he saw my sign that read “Edge betrayed V1” before Edge turned heel, and I wasn’t even holding the sign at the time, it was sitting in front of me), but when Steph gave birth to her first child in real life during a wrestling broadcast, it was announced to the fans on TV? Cause they’re hypocritical jackasses?

Keep up the great work!!!

Well to be fair to HHH they didn’t announce that it was his and Steph’s kid on the show, just Steph’s. You had to visit the website for the Daddy’s name.

To play Vince’s, sorry, Devil’s, no, Vince’s Advocate here, there’s a difference between a birth and a ruined relationship due to an affair. If HHH and Steph chose to announce their kid’s birth in public, they can do that. If they wanted to keep it quiet, that’s also their right. But making a sign about 3 people going through a messy break up when one was fired and the other a face is another kettle of fish.

Knowing about it is a necessary evil, HHH doesn’t fault you for knowing that Adam Copeland and Amy Dumas knocked boots. But making a sign about it and taking it to a TV taping is crossing the line, in the old school mentality. Same as how you shouldn’t call HHH or Big Show Paul if you meet them. It’s their real name, but you don’t know them, and using their real name is not appropriate.

That’s the argument at least. You might think it’s hypocritical, but in his eyes it’s justified.

Cameron wants to fight for women’s equality.

And then I also have a question, from reading this past week’s article where someone asked about Chyna winning the IC belt, do you think there is any chance that Beth Phoenix will ever fight for the IC/US title or against any other male wrestlers for that matter (not counting Santino Marella)

Thanks and keep up the good work.

Not for the foreseeable future. Even if you get past the fact that as strong and impressive a physical specimen as Miss Phoenix is (she could probably kick my ass), she’s missing a few inches on Chyna, which means that she can’t wrestle a power game without it looking stupid. It’s not just about what you can do, it’s also what you should be able to do.

But even if you get past the cosmetic aspect, you’re left with a man and a woman wrestling on an even keel, without any comedy. And PG13 looks down on man on woman violence. Comedy with Santino is one thing, standing toe-to-toe with Kofi Kingston, while being probably a better role model for girls and giving a good, solid lesson, will not happen since at some point Kofi has to kick Beth, and that’s not OK.

Alas.

And on that tone of sadness over a lack of men beating up on women, goodnight to you all.

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