The Piledriver Report 07.10.09: RAW vs. SmackDown: The Proof is in the Main Events
Posted by Ronny Sarnecky on 07.10.2009
Every since the WWE brand split, fans have been debating which show is better. RAW or SmackDown? The answer to that question can be found when examining the World title programs of the two shows since the WWE instituted a second World championship in September 2002. The Piledriver Report takes a look at the title scenes on both shows from 2002 until the present.
WOW! I take two weeks off from the column, and all hell breaks loose. Edge gets injured, and is out of action for probably eight months. Donald Trump buys RAW, then sells it back to Vince a week later. The biggest shock wave during the two-week period had to be the three-brand trade. With SmackDown! being the best pro wrestling show on television today, I figured that the WWE would strip down the Friday night show, and load up RAW. Instead, ECW got fleeced of all its top talent; RAW received some nice pieces, but SmackDown! was strengthened even further then it already was.
THEDIFFERENCEBETWEENRAWandSMACKDOWN!
While watching SmackDown!, I noticed that one of the biggest differences between the "A" brand and the "B" show is the main event title scene. On RAW, you have Triple H, John Cena, Randy Orton, the Big Show, Batista and Shawn Michaels (when they return) in the title picture. On SmackDown!, you have any number of wrestlers who can compete in the main events for the brand. CM Punk, Jeff Hardy, Edge, Rey Mysterio, Jr., John Morrison, Chris Jericho, and the Undertaker (when he returns) can all fight for SmackDown's top spot.
On SmackDown!, any of the seven wrestlers and pair them together in a match with each other, and you are filled with fresh match-ups. On RAW, it's been there, done that. Just look at the past few RAWs and pay per views. On this past RAW, you had Triple H facing John Cena in a WrestleMania 23 rematch. During the Bash and RAW a few weeks ago, Triple H fought Randy Orton in a WrestleMania XXV rematch. In the Night of Champions pay per view, RAW's WWE World title match will feature Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Triple H in a WrestleMania XXIV rematch.
THETRIPLEHEFFECT
It's not just this year either. RAW has been filled with the same old main event workers for years. When the WWE created a second World title that would be exclusive to the RAW brand, Triple H was featured in every RAW World title match on pay per view from September 2002 until Bad Blood in June 2004. Despite not being in the World title match at Bad Blood, Triple H fought Shawn Michaels inside a Hell in a Cell in the main event. Even when he didn't hold the title, Triple H still closed out the show. On the next RAW pay per view, Vengeance 2004, Triple H was back in the World title match. After facing Eugene in a mid-card match at Summer Slam 2004, Triple H solidified his spot in every RAW World title or main event match until Vengeance 2005 when he faced Batista. After being injured for a few months, Triple H came back in a mid-card match at Taboo Tuesday 2005. He stayed in upper mid-card feuds until he faced John Cena in the main event at WrestleMania 22. After fighting in a triple threat main event match, which included John Cena and Edge, at Backlash 2006, Triple H started to team with former DeGeneration X partner Shawn Michaels. He stayed in an upper-mid card tag team with Michaels until shortly before the Royal Rumble when he suffered an injury. Triple H would return at Summer Slam 2007 in an under-card match against Booker T. At No Mercy, with John Cena injured, Triple H was re-inserted back into the main event title picture. He wouldn't stay there long, as he didn't fight in another main event until the battle royal at the 2008 Royal Rumble. However, Triple H fought in the three-way match for the WWE World title at WrestleMania XXIV. After Mania XXIV, Triple H was back to having a top position in the World title scene. From WrestleMania XXIV until Backlash 2009, Triple H was either in a World title match, or in the top match for the brand that he fought for. After selling an injury through Judgment Day and Extreme Rules, Triple H was back in the World title hunt at the Bash pay per view two weeks ago.
CENABECOMESTRIPLEHPARTTWO
During the times that Triple H was not wrestling in title matches, or was fighting on the SmackDown! brand, RAW's World title scene was being dominated by John Cena. Following John Cena's first WWE World title victory at WrestleMania 21, Cena defended the title at Judgment Day before being drafted to RAW. Once he was drafted to RAW, Cena was involved in every WWE World title match from Vengeance 2005 until One Night Stand in June 2006. At Summer Slam 2006, John Cena was back fighting in World title matches (or RAW's top match) on pay per views until October 2007, when Cena was injured shortly before No Mercy. John Cena would make his triumphant return at the 2008 Royal Rumble when he won the main event battle royal. He then wrestled in the WWE World title match at No Way Out, WrestleMania XXIV, and Backlash. After fighting Triple H at last year's Night of Champions for the WWE title, Cena wrestled in upper mid-card matches until he suffered an injury. When he came back at the Survivor Series in 2008, he immediately won the World title from Chris Jericho. From that point on, Cena was involved in every RAW World title match until this year's Backlash when he fought Edge.
SMACKDOWNCREATINGSTARS
When you look at the RAW title picture since the WWE introduced a second World title in 2002, at least one of the following were featured as the World champion in each RAW pay per view main event: Triple H, Randy Orton, John Cena, Batista, Edge, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, and Chris Benoit. Out of that list, only Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit, CM Punk held the RAW title on only one occasion.
Where Triple H and John Cena dominated the World title picture on RAW, SmackDown! seemed to spread the wealth around. Instead of one of two wrestlers in each World title match, SmackDown! gave several performers a few month reign on the top of the card.
Brock Lesnar, the Big Show, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, and JBL dominated their World title scene from September 2002 until John Cena's WWE World title victory over JBL at WrestleMania 21. Of those five competitors, only three had multiple title reigns. Those wrestlers being Brock Lesnar, the Big Show, and Kurt Angle.
After Batista officially came over to SmackDown! in the Draft Lottery of 2005, wrestled in SmackDown's top pay per view matches until he was injured in late December 2005. Kurt Angle was brought over from RAW where he held the World title from late December 2005 until WrestleMania 22, where he lost the title to Rey Mysterio, Jr. in a three-way that also involved Randy Orton. Despite holding the title for around five months, Mysterio was hardly the face of SmackDown! as he was booked as a second rate World Champion.
Booker T had a nice title reign as King Booker that lasted from the Great American Bash until the 2006 Survivor Series. He dropped the belt to Batista, who went on to hold the title for the next four months, until he lost a title vs. the streak match to the Undertaker at WrestleMania 23. Due to injury, the "deadman" would only hold the belt for a short period of time until he dropped the strap to Edge. Edge held the belt until after Vengeance when he had to relinquish the strap due to an injury. After a few months experiment with the Great Khali as champion, the SmackDown! title went back around the waist of Batista. When the Undertaker returned from his injury, he renewed his WrestleMania 23 rivalry with the World Champion Batista. Their feud lasted from Cyber Sunday until Armageddon, where he dropped the belt to Edge in a three-way match that featured the Undertaker.
The "Rated R Superstar" feuded with the Undertaker from Armageddon until 2008's One Night Stand pay per view, with a mini-feud against Rey Mysterio, Jr. thrown in. Edge lost the belt to the Undertaker at WrestleMania XXIV, but regained the title back almost two months later. Following the Night of Champions, Edge dropped the World title to CM Punk on Monday night RAW.
SMACKDOWNBECOMESTHETRIPLEHSHOW
With Triple H now on SmackDown!, the Friday night show changed their formula from one where many performers get a shot in the title matches to one where Triple H in one of the competitors in every major SmackDown! World title match from the Great American Bash up until Armageddon 2009. After Edge dropped the SmackDown! title in an Elimination Chamber at No Way Out, Triple H was the WWE World champion again. Following the 2009 WWE Draft, Triple H brought the WWE belt back to RAW, and after Backlash pay per view, Edge brought the World title back to SmackDown!.
SMACKDOWNGETSBACKTOTHEBASICS
Now that Triple H was back on RAW, the "A" show is centered around Triple H, Randy Orton, and John Cena. Meanwhile, over on SmackDown!, the draft has created that old SmackDown! magic. One of the keys to keeping wrestling interesting is to create new stars. The SmackDown! creative team is extremely successful at this formula. It's one of the reasons why, over the next year, we will be entertained every Friday night with new and exciting rivalries. Meanwhile, three days later, we will be bored with the Triple H/John Cena/Randy Orton trifecta. RAW may be looked at as the "A" show by those inside the WWE. However, with a roster that includes Edge, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, the Undertaker, Jeff Hardy, John Morrison, Rey Mysterio, Jr., Tyson Kidd, and Harry Smith, I'll take the "B" show every day of the week.
smackdown has consistenly been the better show since the brand split.
Posted By: rey (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 03:19 PM
Bottom line: HHH is a huge piece of SHIT, the whole scene would be sooooooooo much better if that douchebag hack would just leave.
Posted By: Guest#2477 (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 04:13 PM
I am sure others will point out one of your mistakes, you made quite a few, but the one that stuck out like a sore thumb was when you stated that Cena and HHH fought at WM23. Cena fought HBK, while HHH was hurt, but if not for the injury, yeah, it would have been Cena vs HHH at WM23.
Posted By: JUSTINW (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 04:37 PM
Triple H needs to retire already. Nobody cares about him anymore.
Posted By: Ike (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 05:30 PM
since the brand extension, 2004 was the only good year for RAW, the rest were awful. 2002-2003 have to be the most worst since triple h was all over the product.
Posted By: Guest#4358 (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 05:37 PM
hmmm, i am sensing a common theme here. triple h not on SD. their main event scene is fresh and flourishes. he arrives on Sd, dull and repetitive. He leaves SD, new and exciting.
Posted By: jd (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 06:05 PM
HHH is the worst thing to happen to the wrestling industry, period.
Posted By: Guest#9793 (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 07:04 PM
Would the WWE be more interesting without Triple H and John Cena?
Yes.
But it's not going to happen.
Cena seemingly stole all of Batistas/Edges & Kennedys powers of recuperation through nefarious means and Cena will never be heel as long as Vince is alive and he can shift merchandise.
Triple H will always be at the top of the card unless he Benoits Stephanie.
Noting will change on Raw any time soon, I just wish the Brand Split meant that the Smackdown people were kept away from RAW. I also wish people had access to Smackdown like they do with Raw, because I'm sure the ratings would be higher, if it had the same platform.
Aw well, it's not gonna change in the next five years, so we all have to live with it.
Posted By: WhatTheDeuce? (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 07:24 PM
While HHH is married to Steph and has some creative control expect Trips o be in the main event
On a positve Note:Trips does have a niggling leg injury...
Posted By: Melissa (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 07:32 PM
Smackdown is the only show I watch anymore.
Posted By: Hawk316 (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 07:38 PM
Why has Batista, Undertaker and edge not mentioned as being in the title scene for 2 complete years? Accepted that edge and Taker gave great matches, but again there were the same story repeated. Edge wins via interference. how many times have we seen that i the past 2 years?
Posted By: SJ (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 08:51 PM
Well it looks like everyone's forgotten that Rob Van Dam held the WWE Title in June 2006. Not surprised, really.
Posted By: A King (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 08:57 PM
Trips and Cena have effectively destroyed Monday nights. They even managed to suck the entertainment value out of Randy Orton with their all encompassing suckiness. Watching Triple Hs entrance makes me want to throw up.
Posted By: Arman Tanzarian (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 09:37 PM
Actually Triple H is a GREAT worker and can work face or heel effectively.
He has suffered from bad booking and the fact that Cena and Orton aren't known for their workrate...
Look at HHH's matches with HBK and Undertaker, with a comparable opponent he is money. I know I know, the best in the biz can wrestle a broom stick and make it work (sup Kurt Angle - looking at you and AJ and Daniels) but HHH is as good a wrestler as most people on the roster and he gets people over.
In order to make a star you gotta lose to someone and HHH does that effectively.
I think the problem is that in the past when he had to be relied on until others could be build, people in the new WWE Universe and their ADHD mentalities can't stand anyone on top for long.
Just my 0.02
Posted By: .98 short of a dollar (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Of course calling HHH "King of Kings" is pretty bad
Posted By: Guest#6959 (Guest) on July 10, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Smackdown has definitely been better overall since the brand split. They hit a little bit of a snag when Eddie Guerrero died in late 2005 because it really messed up their future plans. Then when Edge, Taker and Kennedy all went down in the summer of 2007 they got sloppy with that Batista/Khali feud. Other than that, Smackdown has been very good. Injuries really are the main thing that has hurt Smackdown over the years. The booking(with the exception of JBL's boringly long title reign) has usually been very solid to great. Even when Triple H WAS on the show last year, Smackdown wasn't terrible.
Raw was god awful from 2002-2003 until in 2004 they finally decided that someone other than Goldberg was worthy enough(Benoit) to go over Triple H for the title. Then Triple H won the title back and Randy Orton's face turn bombed and we were right back to square one. Trips as champ and no one else being made to look like they were in his league. Then Batista changed all that.
2005 and 2006 were excellent years for Raw IMO. Cena had good feuds with Jericho and Angle in '05 and then in '06 was saw the GREAT Edge/Cena feud. 2007 wasn't terrible, but was dominated far too much by Cena and got stale. 2008 was a good year for Raw too. I actually started to like Raw a little better than Smackdown after the 2008 draft when Jericho and HBK had a great feud and they actually put the belt on a young guy (Punk) and took a chance. Then they shit all over it when Cena came back and snagged the title from Jericho like it was nothing.
Now in 2009 the Triple H/Orton feud has threatened to make Raw unwatchable at times and SuperCena can't lose again. How fresh.
Posted By: SU_RKO (Guest) on July 11, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Back then; Smackdown was awesome if Benoit was on it and RAW in 04 was awesome because of Benoit.
Posted By: Guest#3730 (Guest) on July 11, 2009 at 12:42 AM
I hate HHH as much as the next guy but for me, it stems from him being in the title scene month in month out. I'm not going so far as to call for his retirement, but i think it would benefit all if he were to help push the new comers (Swagger, MVP, Bourne, Kofi) in non-title situations. He was tolerable when he feuded with Umaga and Carlito in 2007. Just stay out of the title scene pls Paul.
Posted By: Guest#4599 (Guest) on July 11, 2009 at 01:19 AM
In other words, Triple H must be eliminated. Even Ric Flair wasnt this much of a title hog and he had 16 (really 21) world titles, that is sad.
Posted By: J.J.T (Guest) on July 11, 2009 at 01:24 AM
Im just bored with seeing HHH & Cena is world title matches full stop, i dont hate either guy but its just stale.
I only watch smackdown now because its fresh seeing Punk & Hardy go at it & it has the best in the buisness in Jericho.
Posted By: jbardo (Guest) on July 11, 2009 at 08:17 AM
You guys need to stop dissing HHH. HHH and Cena are the main reason why everyone is still watching wrestling nowadays.
Posted By: HHH Rulz (Guest) on July 11, 2009 at 02:51 PM
RKO
Posted By: MattRKO (Guest) on July 11, 2009 at 02:57 PM
I'm a big Triple H fan but there is something to be said for his run at the top. I will give him a bit of defense...whiele there ae guys we all WANT to be in the title picture that doesn't mean the crowd or the performer is ready. I am not gonna say him being in the main even is always a good thing (and definitely not the last year) but it isn't always bad either. I do think that Raw overall is in need of a serious overhaul and Triple H came back sooner than needed which isn't really his fault and they have a few guys who couldn't live up to the expectations (Batista, Kennedy) But I think Swagger, MVP, Henry and Kofi are ready to give Smackdowna run for the money on the upper midcard. The revolving host thing is gonna suck if anyone else is not up to The million Dollar man's level!! As he was awesome.
Posted By: THE GET SOME KID (Guest) on July 11, 2009 at 04:15 PM
Undoubtedly Triple H can have good to great matches when he feels like it. he just doesn't feel like it most of the time, and the booking having him constantly being in the title program makes him stale. practically since 2000, triple h has to be part of some title hunt or another, or it just doesn't seem like his character. Being a part of the title hunt has defined the game, and having him in any other role seems to be misplaced... Unfortunately, the game hasn't really made anyone look good in a loss, pretty much a staple in getting mid-carders over. Either HHH jobs out in an upset fashion (Shelton Benjamin) or he just squashes the opponent (Tajiri a week after Benjamin). Cena and Orton have shown that they can elevate new talent while they still continue winning! Cena with Miz, and Orton with Dibiase jr.
I think HHHs has a good mind for the business though, and if he had a hand in booking while not being on the active roster, we'd get some pretty great tv
Posted By: Guest#4534 (Guest) on July 12, 2009 at 04:38 AM
Brock Lesnar, the Big Show, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, and JBL dominated their World title scene from September 2002 until John Cena's WWE World title victory over JBL at WrestleMania 21. Of those five competitors, only three had multiple title reigns. Those wrestlers being Brock Lesnar, the Big Show, and Kurt Angle.
-----------------------------------------
Big Show only had one title reign in this period.
Posted By: comment (Guest) on July 13, 2009 at 04:17 PM
Smackdown has been far better then Raw recently.
Posted By: Los Angeles Lakers (Guest) on July 17, 2009 at 04:01 AM
Randy needs to do us all a favour and drop John Cena on his head and take out Triple H's knee at NOC. Although MVP vs Jack Swagger won't generate many PPV buys it will keep those of us who like complaining on the internet happy.
Posted By: Save us Randy (Guest) on July 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM