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The 411 Wrestling Top 5 7.22.09: Week 32 - Top Heat Seeking Moments
Posted by Michael Bauer on 07.22.2009



Hello everyone and welcome to 411 Wrestling's Top 5 List. What we are going to is take a topic each week and all the writers here on 411 wrestling will have the ability to give us their Top 5 on said topic, plus up to three honorable mentions. At the end, based on where all these matches rank on people's list, we will create the 411 Wrestling Top 5 list. The scoring is very similar to the Wrestler of the Week as it looks like this:

#1 Choice – 5 points
#2 Choice – 4 points
#3 choice – 3 points
#4 Choice – 2 points
#5 Choice – 1 point
Honorable Mentions will break ties, but get no points.

Also, in the case of a tie, the most votes win, regardless of where it is listed in the individual Top 5. I will also use this rule in the event that one item is mentioned more often, but is one point behind. For example, one second place vote and two Honorable Mentions will defeat simply one first place vote.



So, on to this week's topic…

THE TOP 5 "HEAT SEEKING" MOMENTS


What is a "Heat Seaking" Moment? A Heat Seeking Moment is one in which the heel is doing everything he can to get the people to hate him. Some of the greatest heel turns in history fall under this category, including probably the greatest heel turn ever with Hulk Hogan's joining of the New World Order. But not all moments come from he turn itself. Just look at Julian's Bond article from July 11th, CM Punk in ROH: Best Heel Turn Ever? and see the greatness of CM Punk signing his WWE conract on the Ring of Honor Title. That truly was the moment where he was just begging to be booed.

Please note the following for this week:
- Because so many different options were chosen, doing an overall Top 5 was near impossible this week. So this week, it is not being done.
- This was also decided because some of the staff members were allowed to do additional Honorable Mentions if they provide video for all of their choices. So yes, expect a lot of video this week, but I have ensured no doubles.

So what did our group of writers select? Let's find out…



Shawn S. Lealos

HONORABLE MENTIONS

Steve Austin joins forces with Vince McMahon at Wrestlemania - I can't put this in the Top 5 because even after he joined McMahon and beat The Rock, the arena popped and cheered for him. But he joined the man he hated the most, and that has to qualify.

5.El Hijo del Santo turns heel - El Hijo, the son of one of Mexico's most beloved wrestlers, turned bad joining the men who beat up his father, stealing his own father's mask. What makes it great is Women started crying, fights started in the audience, and a team of ridiculously angry Mexicans sporting broken beer bottles rush the ring. In the melee that ensued, roughly 50,000 Mexican wrestling fans began destroying the arena where the event was held, eventually spilling out into the streets. It took eight days for the riots to be fully contained. How amazing is that?

4.Roddy Piper smashes a coconut on Jimmy Snuka's head - It was a Piper's Pit episode. Roddy Piper was already the most hated man in wrestling and did and said anything to get fans to hate him even more. During the interview, Piper said he wanted his guest, Jimmy Snuka to feel at home. He pulled out a pineapple. He pulled out bananas and threw them in Snuka's face. He said the only thing he didn't get was a tree for Snuka to climb up and down like a monkey. He then pulled out the coconuts. When Piper dropped one on the table, it thunked and he knew he was going to have to swing it hard to break, so he let loose and the coconut exploded across the head of Snuka. Piper then strapped him with a belt before running away. It is arguably the most famous Piper's Pit ever.

3.The Freebirds turn on the Von Erichs in Dallas - This is the greatest feud in the history of professional wrestling, but it was not always so. The Freebirds were friends with the Von Erichs when they entered WCCW. It all fell apart on Christmas night 1982. Kerry Von Erich was fighting Ric Flair for the NWA World Championship at Reunion Arena in Dallas. Von Erich friend Michael Hayes was the special guest referee and it seemed Flair was outnumbered here and Von Erich would finally capture the gold. Hayes was being overly aggressive with Kerry throughout the match but when Flair hit Hayes, Hayes knocked Flair down. He tried to get Kerry to pin Flair and win the title but Kerry refused because it would not have been a "clean win." Michael went to leave and Flair knocked Kerry into him, knocking him to the floor. Gordy then slammed the cage into Kerry's face and Michael rushed in and counted the three for Flair. The Von Erichs were the most beloved wrestlers in Texas and, thanks to that night, The Freebirds were the most hated.

2.Hulk Hogan joins the nWo - Hulk Hogan was a bad guy in the early eighties but he was at the top as a baby face when the WWF exploded in the eighties. He was the best good guy reminding the kids to say their prayers and eat their vitamins. Hulkamania was running wild, brother. He signed with WCW and remained the biggest name in the sport, coming down in the yellow and red and fighting the same kinds of men he did in the WWF, monsters and villains of all sizes. However, wrestling was changing. Smaller, normal looking guys like Bret Hart were taking the world by storm. The cartoon characters of the eighties were now used primarily as comedy in the WWF and WCW needed to do something to keep up. Hulk Hogan needed to find something to remain relevant. Both factions found their gold in the nWo and while they started with a great angle of Scott Hall jumping over the barricade (it made me start watching again), it really exploded with a HUGE heat seeking moment. It was Bash at the Beach and Hall and Nash promised a mystery partner to battle Sting, Lex Luger and Randy Savage. No third partner came out with them, which didn't hurt their chances because Luger was knocked out early in the match and had to be helped to the back. The Outsiders began to beat up Sting and Savage, Hogan, who had been off television for weeks, ran out and cleared the ring of the bad guys. Then he turned and delivered a leg drop to Savage and turned heel for the first time in over a decade. The biggest face the sport had ever seen was now a bad guy, hell bent on destroying WCW. The fans responded by throwing cups, garbage and debris into the ring, a ritual repeated many times following the event. The fans were pissed and the nWo made it to the big time.

1.Ric Flair breaks Dusty Rhodes' ankle - Dusty Rhodes was the man the fans related to while Ric Flair was the man they loved to hate. They were the best of enemies, yet after feuding for so long it seemed respect was earned. In 1985, Flair was a tweener, booed when he fought Magnum TA but cheered when he fought Nikita Koloff. Finally, on September 29, 1985 Flair went total heel in Atlanta following a cage match against Nikita Koloff. The Koloffs were beating Flair into a bloody mess and Dusty Rhodes ran in for the save. Arn and Ole Anderson were on their way down to save Flair from the Russians but when they reached the cage, all that remained were Flair and Rhodes. So they attacked Dusty, Flair joined in and broke the leg of the man who just saved him. Arn Anderson remembers fans trying to get to them after the attack and how it took 30 minutes to get back to the locker room. This would lead to the formation of The Four Horsemen and is one of the biggest heat seeking moments in wrestling history.





Julian Bond

HONORABLE MENTIONS

CM Punk turning heel after winning ROH World Title - I wrote about this very moment a couple of weeks ago in my ‘Against The Grain' column and still strongly believe that a fully fan-supported, WWE-bound CM Punk viciously turning on the very crowd that was at the time crying at his assumed "departure" was one of the most heated moments that I've ever seen.

Jeff Jarrett winning TNA World Title at Slamniversary 2006 - Some may call this moment in which Jeff Jarrett won the title via a big time screw job from infamous referee Earl Hebner one of the most retarded booking moments in wrestling history. But TNA should actually get some play for getting some intense major heat with this for Jarrett, which resulted in the fans in the arena that night throwing all of their trash into the ring in disgust.



John Cena wrestling at ECW's Hammerstein Ballroom - What do you get when you combine one of the most hated "face" wrestlers in history and put him with the most volatile group of wrestling fans in the ECW fans in Hammerstein Ballroom at the 2006 One Night Stand PPV? "If Cena wins, we riot". Nuff said.

Big Bossman dragging Big Show's dead dad with his car - This may sound silly as hell, but this was the one thing that made me, as a damn teenager for crying out, to write an angry email to the WWF for being the cheapest and dumbest way to get heat. Now…I just find it to be sadly funny. Big Bossman drives his cop car to the Big Show's father's "funeral", hooked up a casket to car, and proceeded to drive off with Show yelling and jumping on casket…built so much heat for Bossman that it rivaled his "eating" of Al Snow's dog Pepper. Evil stuff man.



Triple H turning on HBK/fake DX reunion - Like I'll explain likewise with Edge below, people often forget how Triple H originally got his infamous heel heat during his "Evolution" days. Here he pissed EVERYONE off when he hugely teased (i.e. coming out with t-shirts, entrance music, doing a promo) getting the original DX back together with Shawn Michaels and then proceeded to pedigree the crap out of his best friend HBK. He can turn on his former teammates like X-Pac and Ric Flair without too much backlash, but it seemed to cut deep more with betraying Shawn freakin' Michaels.



5.The Muhammad Hassan/Undertaker "Piano Wire" Incident - This is an often forgotten moment for those who didn't experience it at the time, but the stuff that went down here brought so much heat to a wrestler that he in turn was fired as a result. Back in 2005, the WWE created the character of Muhammad Hassan, who was a wrestler who dressed up in Middle Eastern gear and did the old school shtick of "We hate USA" (i.e. The Iron Sheik). This of course worked in his favor as a heel, but was upped significantly because of the still sore spot in American history of the 9/11 events in association to the Middle East with Osama Bin Laden. While Hassan's antics on the mic were borderline offensive, this incident here on Smackdown was considered WAY over the line by many. On an episode of Smackdown, in his feud with the Undertaker, Hassan stood in the middle entrance ramp, stared Taker down in the ring, started suggestively praying, and then a bunch of masked goons came to the ring (as simulated "masked terrorists") and proceeded to choke out Taker with "piano wire". While the audience was stunned, this event would had totally put Hassan horribly over the top heel wise as it brought him so much freaking heat. But unfortunately this would air on the same day of the tragic London bombings and due to the MASSIVE amount of heat facing the WWE in this wake, they fired Hassan. A pure example of having too much heat.



4.The entire Edge/Lita/Matt Hardy affair - It's funny that some of the same fans who now worship the heel ground that Edge now walks on often forget about how the man started getting his now infamous heat in the first place. When Edge first turned mega-heel (not counting the Brood), the reaction he got from fans was tepid at best. But once news leaked of his real-life affair with Lita, who was then known to be the close girlfriend of Matt Hardy, the fans started treating the guy like he was the anti-Christ. Due to this whole situation crapping all over "nice guy" Matt Hardy (which resulted in his termination from the WWE…and of course…heartbreak), Edge almost overnight became one of the most hated guys in wrestling history with the tons and tons of heat created with his actions. Honestly if it wasn't for this, Edge could have possibly not been as sick of a heel as he is today.

3. Hogan turning heel at Bash at The Beach - Some call this moment here one of the greatest heel turns of all time and they are absolutely correct as the fans of Hogan's went nuts at the time with this. To take Hulk Hogan, the man that kids and adults alike looked up to in the 80s and into the 90s as the "All-Amercian" good guy that always fought for justice and doing the right thing, and turn him brutally heel out of nowhere was a ballsy move for both Hogan and WCW. But the moment paid off in spades as people littered the ring with garbage as Hogan gave his infamous heel promo on the fans and the mega heat that Hogan received thereafter was the major building block and foundation in the massive success that the New World Order had.

2. Any Dudley Boys "Crowd" Promo in ECW - The Dudley Boys shooting a promo in the ring was one of the first things that I ever seen when I started watching the original ECW back in the day and one of the things that will forever burn in my memories as one of the craziest things that I've EVER witnessed. I've seen heel wrestlers in the past cut a promo directed at the crowd in attendance to attempt to get them really revved up and pissed off (which usually included the trash talking of a town's local sport team), but the Dudleys took this WAY too far and almost cause some riots even amongst the very knowable ECW crowds. One specific time on the Heat Wave 99' PPV, I remember that they talked shit to a crowd for like seemingly 5 – 10 minutes straight without any letting up and at one point this bigger guy (made fun of for his weight of course) looked like he was about to jump the railing and pound on D-Von. There was so much damn heat from each and every single one of their crowd-bashing promos that it might actually beat out almost all of the other mentions on this list here.

1.Anything that Andy Kaufman did in a wrestling ring - If you ever seen footage of the celebrity/comedian Andy Kaufman during his "wrestling" days down in Memphis, you would automatically feel how much f'n heat this man generated amongst the Southern crowds. His horribly, downright dirty heelish antics, which included berating women and challenging them to wrestle against him, seemed so real that they not only caused seriously near riots but also reportedly produced real death threats against Kaufman. The guy wasn't even a real pro wrestler, but yet his short venture into it produced so many heated moments that he has to get play for being essentially one of the best heels in the business.



Len Archibald

HONORABLE MENTIONS

"Cane Dewey" - "They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire!": Mick Foley, explaining the bloodlust of the ECW fans in what may be his single greatest promo and one of the greatest promos ever.

Savage drops the bell on Steamboat's throat - This is the first of two events that shaped the card of the biggest event Vince McMahon would ever hold; then IC Champ Randy Savage lived up to his name by taking out his main competition, Ricky Steamboat with a ringbell on his throat. I was a kid and wanted to KILL him for that.

John Cena makes Triple H tap @ WrestleMania 22 - Ah, here is a cheat (as Cena was not a heel), but I think it warrants mention. If anyone has a *live* copy of WrestleMania 22, listen to the majority of the Chicago fans SHIT on everything Cena does in the ring, and watch how they DEFLATE (some of the faces of the "smarks" in attendance are PRICELESS) as he makes Triple H tap out and the realization dawns that Cena is STILL WWE Champion. One of the great joys of my life – and one of the most surreal experiences with wrestling I've ever had.

5. Diesel rips off Mad Dog Vachon's leg - I can never get this out of my memory…This was from the In Your House PPV after WrestleMania XII (Good Friends, Better Enemies – I think) where HBK put up his newly won WWF Championship against former friend, Diesel. I think this was his swan song before hooking up with Scott Hall in WCW, but man – what a way to go out! These guys tore the house down in a great main event. Diesel was doing EVERYTHING he could to be both cool AND evil – and his most glorious moment is near the end of the bout when he yanked the prosthetic leg of the great Mad Dog Vachon and CLUBBED Michaels with it! It was totally EVIL and had the crowd hating on him. I shook my head in disbelief and laughed. Kevin Nash is definitely one of the more underrated talents of all time. (happens at 2:10 of video)



4. Triple H walks out of WM 2000 the champ - When coming up for great heat-seeking moments, this was the first to pop into my mind, as I remember being at my friend's house to watch this. This was the 4-Way Elimination Match with HHH, The Rock, The Big Show and Mick Foley with "A McMahon in each corner" (ugh.) Smarkiness aside, it seemed destined that this was really going to come down to The Rock and Triple H with The Rock getting his victory and ridding the world of the evil McMahon-Helmsley Era. It came down to Triple H and The Rock as predicted…Then Vince McMahon, who was in The Rock's corner, turned on him. Then Triple H pinned him. ?!?!?!?!?!?!? Chants of "Austin! Austin!" filled the arena. Me and my friends were in disbelief. As piles of garbage pelted the ring, we were CERTAIN the match would restart again. Then, fade out. I think my smarky hatred of Triple H started here. It has softened (I don't really hate anyone – besides, it's like my wife saying she hates Stefano DeMera), but that was a moment where I just hated, HATED him. (4:50 of video)



3. Hogan joins the nWo - CONTROVERSY! Not number 1? Sacrilege! I am aware that this kicked off the storyline that almost put Vince McMahon out of business. It was a shock, garbage FLEW in the ring, Hogan put out a GREAT promo after dropping the Legdrop of DOOM on "friend" Randy Savage. It was just a great moment that I can't do justice explaining because it is engrained in the consciousness of every wrestling fan. I think the moment may be one of those things people will just know from pop-culture osmosis, much like how everyone knows of "The Wizard of Oz" or "I have a dream…", without seeing it or understanding the historical context . "This is the New World Order of Wrestling, BROTHER~!" (under about six feet of tossed trash.)

2. Andre rips Hogan's crucifix off his neck - The second and more iconic (in my opinion) moment that shaped the largest (most important?) pro-wrestling card of all time was a little thing that happened on Piper's Pit on the road to WrestleMania III. Weeks earlier Andre the Giant received a lifetime achievement trophy for his contributions to wrestling as Hogan was honored as WWF Champion. Andre walked out of the ceremony – he seemed a little perturbed, but no big deal. Then Jesse "The Body" began to egg Hogan on and told him that Andre was pissed that after being undefeated, Hogan never attempted to offer a Heavyweight title fight to his "best friend". He said he could provide Andre on Piper's Pit if the Rowdy One could get Hogan. So the confrontation happens, and Andre comes out with Bobby Heenan. Heat Magnet #1. Then Andre challenges Hogan for the title in a bullish manner. Heat Magnet #2. THEN Andre (to "show how serious he was", per Heenan) ripped off the crucifix and necklace on Hogan's neck, bringing a disheveled Hulkster to his knees. There were so many layers to that one HEELISH EVIL act. It was so simple, but by yanking the crucifix, Andre pretty much tore into the fabric of what is "good" and "wholesome" about Hulkamania: The Prayers, the training and the vitamins. It was all on a heap on the floor. Hell, my mom watched that with me and wanted Andre DEAD (she of the uber-Christian persuasion.)



1. Bret Hart kicks Austin when he's down - I have stated it is my belief that Bret Hart's fall from grace between 1996-97 is the most important storyline in modern wrestling history, simply because the fallout of that particular storyline ultimately led to Vince McMahon buying out WCW and winning the Monday Night Wars (I would like to get into more detail one day – but I'm just a movie guy.) WrestleMania 13's submission match between Hart and Austin was just a perfect demonstration of how to make a wrestler HATED by everyone. Austin was primarily a heel that received a smattering of fan support. Hart was a hero, whose "good guy" armor was starting to crack. When this was over, Austin wound up the #1 face in the company and Bret was the #1 heel, as The Hitman left Stone Cold in a pool of his blood, unconscious from blood-loss and being in the Sharpshooter. But even in victory, Hart didn't get what he wanted, as he intended to DESTROY Austin and rid the WWF fans of his evil, influential ways. He literally kicked at Austin when he was down. Referee Ken Shamrock got involved, and took down Hart with a THUNDEROUS ovation. Shamrock was ready to get a piece of Hart – and Bret Hart, who was always the beacon of morals and standing up for what he believed in did what? He chickened out. He walked away. He pussied out. I remember watching this at a buddy's house when this was on live and the boos that came from the arena SHOOK the speakers. Bret Hart was no longer the champion of morals. He was now a chickenshit holier-than-thou heel. Damn you, Bret! You were my Canadian Hero!





John Meehan

Disclaimer: I should start by saying that this is a fantastic topic, and there are literally dozens of moments that I could have easily pegged in my personal top five. For the sake of this list however, I'm going to have to limit my choices to events that I actually saw on television WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY AIRED. As a result, some of wrestling's most notorious swerves have been omitted.

HONORABLE MENTIONS

Earthquake Crushes The Hulkster - Pre-Attitude Era WWF was simple: Hulk and his pals were the good guys, and everyone else was the bad guys. Needless to say, turning your back on The Hulkster pretty much cemented you as an out-and-out asshole. As a kid watching this particular act of treachery on WWF programming, I thought for sure that Hulk Hogan was a goner and could have sworn that Earthquake was the real-life incarnation of Satan himself.

Andre Rips Hulk Hogan's Cross - Though the verbal sparring probably wouldn't cut it by modern standards, the visual of Hulk Hogan crying over his torn crucifix was simply heartbreaking in its day.

Roddy Piper Bashes Jimmy Snuka - Racist? You betcha. But effective? Without question. This is arguably the most famous Piper's Pit of all time -- and with good reason, too.



Shawn Michaels Swerves a Bret Hart Return - Wrestling fans call The Great White North "Bizzaro Land," and this alternate universe was never more bizzare than the night where HBK fooled every Canuck in attendance into thinking that The Hitman had finally made his long-awaited WWE return.



Earthquake Squashes Damien - Need more proof that Earthquake was evil incarnate in the heyday of Hulkamania? Look no further than this classic clip from WWF Superstars, where the Canadian avalanche makes mincemeat (or was that hamburger meat?) out of Jake's beloved reptile accomplice.



5.Jake Roberts' Cobra Attacks Randy Savage - This one gets the edge over the Damien squashing and Jake's "Snake Room" ambush of The Ultimate Warrior simply because of the very real danger involved in the stunt itself. Whereas The Warrior was "bitten" by a rubber reptile and Earthquake's buttdrop on a green canvas bag didn't actually harm anything but a few pounds of ground chuck, this tremendously dangerous stunt *actually* resulted in the Macho Man getting chewed up by a King Cobra. Venom or not -- it's no wonder why the fans freaked out when this attack went down (bonus points for Roberts' "wedding present" surprise shortly thereafter):



4.Shawn Michaels Throws Marty Jannetty Through The Barbershop Window - Were "The Rockers" on the rocks? Shawn swore up and down that things between himself and Marty Jannetty were as strong as ever. But this heelish act of deception quickly resulted in one of the most brutal blindsides ever seen on WWF programming up until that point. Since it catapulted HBK into singles' superstardom, it's a no-brainer for my personal top five list.



3.Bret Hart Teaches Stone Cold a Lesson - Take a career babyface (more or less) and stick him in the ring with a beer-swelling bad guy, and it seems like an obvious invitation to rally your fans behind their longtime hero. But this was not to be, as Bret's refusal to break the Sharpshooter capped off one of the best executed "double turns" in history. Austin's infamous "3:16" speech might have caused fans to take notice, but it was Bret's brutality and Austin's never-say-die attitude at WrestleMania 13 that cemented the Texas Rattlesnake as the baddest S.O.B. ever to set foot in a World Wrestling Federation ring.

2.The Montreal Screwjob - This event remains one of the most controversial onscreen happenings in professional wrestling history, and so there's really no excuse for omitting it from any "top five" list of heat-seeking (and heat-GETTING) moments. Canadian fans were RABID to see The Hitman defeat Shawn Michaels, but Vince McMahon broke from the script and managed to screw Bret Hart out of his victory instead. In the process, "Mr. McMahon" showed his true colors and one of the greatest villains in wrestling history was born.



1. Hulk Hogan Joins The Outsiders - Remember back in the honorable mentions when I pointed out that "good guys" in the pre-Attitude Era were always the guys who sides with The Hulkster? Well Hogan himself turned this paradigm right on its ear in 1996 by siding with WCW's invading force in Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. With one swift legdrop at the Bash at the Beach, "Hollywood" rocked the wrestling world to its very core and helped found the rulebreaking stable to end all others that came to be known as the new World order.





Scott Rutherford

HONORABLE MENTIONS

The Honky Tonk Man Wins The IC Title - He used the ropes during the pin, Steamboat got his shoulder up at 2 and really, HTM didn't deserve the title and spent most of the next year and a half avoiding defeat at all costs. The most enduring IC run ever and we hated every moment of it.

Andy Kauffman No person has ever incited the hatred Andy did in Memphis. His matches with woman and cheating to beat them became legendary and his moments with Jerry Lawler will remain in infamy.

Chris Benoit Kills his family - He's the most hated man in wrestling history. Seems like a heat seeking moment to me….

5.Barry Windam joins the Four Horseman - I'm partial to these kind of moments because I still remember how shocked and disgusted I was when Windham turned on Lex Luger. After years of running roughshod over nearly everyone, finally we had two guys that could not only stand toe-to-toe with the vile Horsemen but also actually beat them and then BARRY BREAKS OUR HEARTS and holds up the four fingers. While other shocking heel turns had come before and many million since, this one just struck a chord and set off the most dominating period of the Horseman run in NWA/WCW.

4.Hulk Hogan DOESN'T win the AWA World Title - Hulk Hogan was the biggest thing in wrestling years before Vince made it known to the world. Hogan was so big that when he refused to take the AWA title in a match against Nick Bockwinkle at a card where fans were DEMANDING he win it, it caused a full scale riot that made Vince literally fall over himself to get Hogan and ring up the dollar signs. Long established history said Verne Gagne was behind the time and didn't see Hogan as a viable champ, where as Hogan and Gagne cleared the air and let the cat out of the bag that Hogan refused the title over merchandising rights. Whatever the case may be, this moment created such a buzz that the wrestling world changed not long after.

3.Ivan Koloff defeats Bruno Sammartino for the WWWF World Title - Hang with me here. Sammartino was considered all but unbeatable by the WWWF faithful and when it came up that he was defending the title against "The Russian Bear" it was considered nothing more than a routine defense for Bruno. Rumour has it when Koloff came off the top rope with the knee drop and pinned Sammartino cleanly everyone sat in stunned SILENCE hardly believing they just witnessed their beloved champion pinned so easily. Ivan rode this moment so well he was considered a heel for life and rode the infamy of beating Bruno for the rest of his career. While it didn't attract heat in the typical sense, it certainly was a hot moment in wrestling

2.Killer Kowalski rips off Yukon Eric's ear - Wrestling survived on kayfabe and nothing did more for the realism of wrestling than the night Kowalski ripped of Eric's ear with a knee drop. When newspapers reported a few days later the Killer showed up at the hospital and laughed at Yukon his image as the nastiest heel ever was cemented and thus born one of the greatest heels ever. In truth Yukon ears were heavily cauliflowered and didn't take much to separate form his head and when Kowalski showed up at the hospital it was a shared joke that made both men laugh, but it really doesn't matter. This was one of the vilest and defining heat getting incidents in wrestling history.

1.The Screwjob in Montreal - Time has done little to ease the tension over the most defining moment in wrestling history. You often hear people talk about the "change over" in wrestling that happened just before Attitude kicked in and this was the change. By cementing Vince as the asshole boss, Shawn as the two-faced double crosser and Hart as the eternal complainer, wrestling had a whole new launch pad to fly off and all three men have played their roles still to this day. The amount of bile and hatred that still erupts form this incident today is impressive and nothing sets off a no-win discussion like the one about who was at fault in Montreal. You want a heat seeking moment, look no further.



Robert S. Leighty Jr

HONORABLE MENTIONS

Tazz turns Heel - November 2 Remember 1995 saw Tazz turn heel as he helped Fonzie. The ECW fans in Philly were going to riot, and I'm pretty sure Tazz wanted them to as he challenged fans in the front row to try him.

Chris Jericho punches Shawn's wife - Sure, it was pretty recent, but damn did people hate Jericho after this incident at SummerSlam.

Raven crucifies the Sandman - A moment so controversial that it caused future wrestling Gog Kurt Angle to walk out of the arena and threaten Heyman with a lawsuit should his face, or name appear anywhere near the show or angle.

5.Jerry Lawler invades the ECW Arena - I actually feared for Lawler's life while watching this on DVD recently. After his big win over Raven, Tommy Dreamer had little time to celebrate as the lights went out and Jerry Lawler finally made good on his promise to bring a War to Extremely Crappy Wrestling. ECW crowds were always great, but here they were just losing their minds because a commentator from the WWE (with the help of Sabu and RVD) was running right through the entire ECW roster. Only the awesomeness of Tazz could get Lawler out of the ring.

4.Montreal Screwjob - I put this a little low because at the time nobody really knew all of the ramifications that would come. A lot of people were just confused by the whole deal, and didn't really know how much of a conspiracy the whole thing was. Still, the fans in Montreal were pretty damn pissed that night.

3.Jake Roberts slugs Elizabeth - The cobra attack on Savage was awesome and probably deserved an honorable mention, but what Jack after that was even more evil in the eyes of the fans. Randy Savage finally got some revenge on Roberts at this Tuesday in Texas, but Jake got the final word in as he planted Savage with the DDT. He then teased breaking out his cobra, and that's when Liz started to plead for her husband. Jake was the biggest dick in the world as he told Liz to beg, and then slugs her as she was protecting Randy. Jake was a heel God at this point and time, and this is one of the reasons why. The next logical step seemed to be putting the cobra on Liz, but no way that was happening.

2.Shawn Michaels Montreal Promo - Right before his dream match with Hulk Hogan at SummerSlam, Shawn gave one of the greatest promos ever in front of a hostile crowd in Monyreal. Shawn was the biggest dick in the world, and the fans were ready to kill him after he teased an appearance by Hulk Hogan and Bret Hart. Find this promo on YouTube and watch in awe as Shawn has an arena full of people in the palm of his hand.

1.Hulk Hogan joins the Outsiders - The most shocking heel turn in wrestling history. Hogan got massive heat here as fans actually felt betrayed, and one fan even rushed the ring before getting beat on by Hall and Nash. This is an iconic moment that will be hard to pull off anymore I think.



Jeremy Thomas

HONORABLE MENTIONS

JBL Goosesteps and Performs Nazi Salute in Germany - Hey, they don't all have to have positive results. JBL did everything he could do get heat, and the backlash doesn't belie the legit heat he had when he did this.

Shawn Michaels Turns On Marty Jannetty - This moment made Shawn Michaels. At the time for Rock N' Wrestling, throwing someone through a "plate glass" window was shocking, and it got the fans super-against Shawn.

Steve Austin Aligns himself with Vince McMahon - It's ALMOST the ultimate turncoat moment. Almost.

5. Sandman Reveals Fake Eye Injury And Attacks Tommy Dreamer - This was one of the many times that ECW worked its fans, and probably the most effective. Sandman was battling Dreamer during their long-running feud and had his set up. He went for his victory smoke a little too soon though, and Dreamer nailed him with a Singapore Cane, seeming to knock the cigarette into his eye and blind him. They played it off as totally real and had Sandman out for a month. When he came back and came to the ring, he had bandages over his eyes...which was just an opportunity for him to catch Tommy unaware and wail on him. The crowd was livid, and a classic moment was created that stands in the annals of wrestling history.

4. The Dudley Boys Rip On the Crowd in ECW - People rush Jericho now, but that was nothing compared to the hatred that the Dudleys inspired. Bubba Ray and D-Von were able to rile up a crowd like few others. I was honestly surprised at how fearless they were, because they could really have gotten their asses kicked after the show by some punk with a beer bottle who took something too personally. It was off the charts, it was daring, it was offensive and it was pure, 100% heat.

3. Andy Kaufman Wrestles Women - Talk about being hated. In an era when kayfabe was still alive and well, the quintessential hoaxer took advantage, having matches with women and proclaiming himself the "Intergender Wrestling Champion of the World." Of course, this would lead to an angle with Jerry Lawler and a feud that followed. Kaufman was a perfect match for wrestling and his ability to connect with a crowd was exceptional; in a time when women didn't wrestle men, Kaufman found the perfect way to get himself heat and he did it very, very well.

2. "Bret Screwed Bret" - The Montreal Screwjob was one thing, and that was business. At this point, the case wasn't dead in the water. But once Vince McMahon went on and did an interview with Jim Ross where he professed not to feel any guilt and finished it up with a now-infamous phrase: "Bret screwed Bret." That really seemed to be the moment that Mr. McMahon was made, as opposed to what actually occurred at Survivor Series, and it is that moment I remember just as strongly as the screwjob itself.

1.Hulk Hogan Joins the Outsiders - This was the heel turn to end all heel turns. I mean, c'mon. It was Hulk Hogan. The guy didn't have a heel bone in his body, as far as the fans were concerned. Eat your vitamins, say your prayers...screw your friends? When Hogan attacked Randy Savage the crowd was shocked, and when he got on the mic to accost the fans the response was enormous. It changed the face of wrestling in a very real way and as Robert said, we probably won't see its like again in a long, long time.


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If I am not the first to say it, fuck off Rutherford. Its pretty clear for what.

Posted By: StrongStyleSoldier (Guest)  on July 21, 2009 at 11:40 PM

 
 
I'm happy that Jerry Lawler's invasion of ECW got a mention. I remember watching that at like 2am and screaming at the television. They even called out The Franchise and he backed down... it was crazy!

BTW I remember that Nash yanked the fake leg but DIDN'T actually use it. A swing and a miss right into a low blow from HBK if I recall correctly.


Posted By: STAYMATIC (Guest)  on July 21, 2009 at 11:53 PM

 
 
Ted Dibiase kicking the basketball away from that kid was one of the greatest things I've ever seen. Surprised it hasn't been included.

Posted By: Greg (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 12:07 AM

 
 
Hogan joining the Outsiders is clearly number one

Posted By: Guest#0074 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 12:38 AM

 
 
Rutherford could give lessons in seeking heat.

Posted By: Eric von Erich (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 01:22 AM

 
 
id put big show winning the ecw title on here

Posted By: Guest#3184 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 01:28 AM

 
 
It's kind of simplistic to say that Hassan was a vintage anti-USA character. He was anti-USA only in the sense that he thought it was ridiculous that he himself was an American, but Americans are so quick to judge "the other" that they booed one of their own.

The timing wasn't what was interesting -- it was the character.


Posted By: DG (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 01:56 AM

 
 
So I played ALL of the videos at the same time. Made for one hell of a promo!

Posted By: Guest#7056 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 01:48 AM

 
 
Blahblahblah...how dare Rutherford bring up Benoit?

Does he not know that Benoit is a god, a family-murdering, psycho god? There...I trolled, now this can turn into every other comments section on this site where fanboys defend/bash the Canadian Murderer.

Get over it people! New discusion!


Posted By: Guest#0043 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 01:51 AM

 
 
I still dont get why Hassan was canned. Shouldnt writers get canned for that? It wasnt a shoot but a well-planned angle. WWE always passes the buck.

Posted By: Guest#3296 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 01:52 AM

 
 
I remember the Muhammed Hassan thingo, man, that was crazy

Posted By: Freeman (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:03 AM

 
 
Believe it or not I didn't mention it for shock value alone. It legitimately should be the #1 moment ever because it even got the federal government, media and most casual pundits in a massive fucking rage. But the context of this whole Top 5 was more to in ring moments so I left it as a H.M.

if people don't like that opinion...fuck them.

It is a free world and my opinion after all and everyone else is free to express theirs.

So StrongStyleSoldier....eat a dick.


Posted By: Scott Rutherford (Registered)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:04 AM

 
 
The only thing I could ever think of that replicated Hogan joining the Outsiders is Cena turning heel. It would be just as epic as every childs heart in the arena would be CRUSHED! and I would lol

Posted By: Guest#0029 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:08 AM

 
 
I'm not in the least bit a defender of Benoit after what he did, but I think Rutherford is a piece of garbage for what he said. It has no place in an article such as this. You need to get out of your parent's basement a little more, guy. You might learn some social grace if you are able to interact with other human beings a little more.

Posted By: MikeyCovs (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:18 AM

 
 
my personal fav heatseeking moment was the night after no way out 2003, when rock tore toronto a new asshole on raw. "you mothercanukers booed the rock out of the building." Priceless!

if you havent seen it, find it on youtube, now!


Posted By: daryl ruffey (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:54 AM

 
 
one person remembered HBK kicking Jannetty thru the window.... Does anyone write without trying to push some agenda anymore? Its not what made YOU THE WRITER angry, it's what drew HEAT.... goddamn

Posted By: Guest#1249 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:28 AM

 
 
Disregarding the Benoit comment, Rutherford's list is atrocious... Honky Tonk Man winning the IC title drew more heat than Hogan joining the nWo?

Posted By: Guest#8661 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:32 AM

 
 
What about when Randy was fueding with Mysterio? Rey was the number one contender after winning the RR. Orton wanted the shot at belt and challenged Rey for a shot at the belt. Rey refuesed untill Randy said

"Eddie isn't looking down at you, he is looking up from hell!"

That was way over the line but it generated MAJOR Heat, the arena rocked.

Brock Lesner attacking that guy with one leg was also evil.


Posted By: Guest (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:57 AM

 
 
I'm not in the least bit a defender of Benoit after what he did, but I think Rutherford is a piece of garbage for what he said. It has no place in an article such as this. You need to get out of your parent's basement a little more, guy. You might learn some social grace if you are able to interact with other human beings a little more.

Posted By: MikeyCovs (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 02:18 AM

Oh, the great "get out of your parents basement argument". Highly original that is.

Maybe if YOU got out of your parents basement and found some semblance of original thought you would be taken seriously.

See what I did there...try to keep up little basement dweller.


Posted By: Scott Rutherford (Registered)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:44 AM

 
 
Why didn't no one mention when Buzz Sawyer finally helped his "brother Brett Wayne to become a face? This was one of the best storylines in the 80's. Buzz Sawyer would watch Brett Wayne get his ass beat every week until Buzz Sawyer had enough and helped him and admitting they were "brothers".

Posted By: The Fett (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:49 AM

 
 
Chris Benoit Kills his family - He's the most hated man in wrestling history. Seems like a heat seeking moment to me….

well, chris benoit isn't alive to get heat and the benoit tragedy doesn't belong to this article.


Posted By: Guest#8560 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 03:18 AM

 
 
Right to Censor anyone?...Especially Richards

Posted By: Guest3 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 03:59 AM

 
 
5) Brian Pillman turns on ECW audience when he makes his debut and threatens to whip it out
4) DX brings out midget Bret Hart
3) Austin joins Vince and beats up JR
2) Hogan joins NWO
1) Brock quitting WWE for NFL a week before biggest PPV of all time(mania XX)


Posted By: Guest#3711 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 03:59 AM

 
 
The thing about Mohammed Hassan, was that EVERYTHING he said was TRUE. I thought it was a great angle, rigt up until the 'ski-mask wearing piano wire terrorists' made an American Muslim who was pissed at being stereotyped, INTO a stereotype. Total jumping the shark, and he could have been a big star if Vince hadn't opted for the dumbass 80s angle.

It still amazes me that anyone with half a braincell actually booed him - he never ONCE glorified 9/11 or anything like that, just pointed out that the American public have treated anyone with his skin tone like shit ever since - which is indisputably true.

Even more interesting is that the guy who played Hassan was actually Italian in heritage....


Posted By: chris.crowing (Registered)  on July 22, 2009 at 04:12 AM

 
 
In ROH - CM Punk heel turn .


TNA - Jeff Jarrett - KOTM - Slammiversary

WWE - Montreal Screwjob .
HBK Promo in Montreal before SS As a heel .
The Rockers split up .
Muhammad Hassan .
Austin heel @ WM X7 .

WCW - Hogan joins NWO .


Posted By: Lexie (Registered)  on July 22, 2009 at 09:42 AM

 
 
Damn Meehan.

You I think the same way I'd have the same top moments


Posted By: RockerDropper (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 05:00 AM

 
 
@Chris Crowing - I agree entirely. I loved the Hassan character, thought there was real potential there. It's not a million miles away from what they're now doing with CM Punk (see also Bret as anti-USA, Jericho's "hypocrites" spiel and Foley's anti-hardcore promos) - having a heel tell the fans uncomfortable truths about themselves.

As you say, a crying shame that they jumped right into having masked "terrorists" attack Taker - cut the character off at the knees, and was a pretty hoky angle to boot. Way to turn a subtly nuanced character into the usual xenophobic (borderline racist) nonsense, WWE! Great job.

@Scott Rutherford - I think you're missing the point. Isn't this article about wrestling characters (not people) doing things in the context of wrestling (not real life) with the intention of getting the crowd to hate them? Throwing in the Benoit thing, which (whatever else it was) was clearly not a wrestling angle designed to get heat, smacks of trying to be controversial for the sake of it.

By the same token, I think it's borderline whether the Montreal Screwjob counts - I've always been of the view that Vince did what he felt he had to do to protect the company, and only afterwards decided that he could turn it into an angle (as Jeremy Thomas said). But I can see why some might think that he was working it all along.


Posted By: Dave_W (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 05:37 AM

 
 
I agree with Scott Rutherford about the right to free speech and he can include on his list whatever he pleases. It's his fucking list. To all the people still crying over Benoit. Get the fuck over it. Did you know him or his family? No i didnt think so. Get over it.

Although i believe that Benoit shouldn't be on the list as i imagine that "getting heat" was on his mind when he killed his family and therefore its not a heat SEEKING moment.


Posted By: Chain Gang Soldier (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 05:46 AM

 
 
so where are the totals?

Posted By: Guest#3828 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 05:47 AM

 
 
People might have cheered when Austin aligned with McMahon at WrestleMania, but he got some MAJOR heat in the weeks that followed. Namely beating up J.R and Lita.

Posted By: Bubba (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 05:57 AM

 
 
"We got a mom in the front row that taught her daughter how to suck dick"

- Buh Buh Ray Dudley


Posted By: WMD (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 06:09 AM

 
 
Scott Rutheford - attempting to show everybody how to get some heat writing a column or something? Uh, okay - that's so "cool".

Posted By: Trips (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 06:13 AM

 
 
I'm the guy who's said since it happened that we "shouldn't exclude Chris Benoit from these lists, cause his in-ring exploits happened, regardless of how the end of his life turned out", or something along those lines.

But still, Scott, what Benoit did wasn't what I'd call a "heat seeking moment". That was a crime he committed, outside of a wrestling ring.

I do see your point, in that it did make him so hated that were he to come back from the dead and walk into a wrestling arena, the fans would likely kill him again for spite. But it's a different kind of hate than the "hate" the fans have for Hogan's turn, Andy Kaufman.. even for the Dudleyz (and they drew some serious heat for those promos). Just don't really think it's consistant with the rest of the feel of the article.

Awesome that Hogan's turn seems to be the biggest heat seeking moment, as well it should be!


Posted By: Blackbird 13 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 06:33 AM

 
 
Rutherford--I would just ignore the comments. Replying and fighting back only instigates them further. You're entitled to your opinion, even if others disagree. Don't let them win by fighting back.

Posted By: Jake (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 07:18 AM

 
 
Shawn Michaels Swerves a Bret Hart Return - Wrestling fans call The Great White North "Bizzaro Land," and this alternate universe was never more bizzare than the night where HBK fooled every Canuck in attendance into thinking that The Hitman had finally made his long-awaited WWE return.

I remember this, and god damn was it amazing watch it. Shawn and Bret are two of my favorite wrestlers but I like Shawn a little more so watching this was great. The place went crazy when Brets music hit was insane. Whenever I'm bored I look this up and watch it.


Any Dudley Boys "Crowd" Promo in ECW - One specific time on the Heat Wave 99' PPV, I remember that they talked shit to a crowd for like seemingly 5 – 10 minutes straight without any letting up and at one point this bigger guy (made fun of for his weight of course) looked like he was about to jump the railing and pound on D-Von. There was so much damn heat from each and every single one of their crowd-bashing promos that it might actually beat out almost all of the other mentions on this list here.

This will always stick out in my mind. I remember watching this and just thinking this is the greatest shoot anyone has ever done to the fans. They just bashed the fans. My favorite line, "We gotta a mother out here who taught her daughter how to suck dick." WOW.

5.Jerry Lawler invades the ECW Arena - I actually feared for Lawler's life while watching this on DVD recently. After his big win over Raven, Tommy Dreamer had little time to celebrate as the lights went out and Jerry Lawler finally made good on his promise to bring a War to Extremely Crappy Wrestling. ECW crowds were always great, but here they were just losing their minds because a commentator from the WWE (with the help of Sabu and RVD) was running right through the entire ECW roster. Only the awesomeness of Taz could get Lawler out of the ring.

I use to have it on tape and loved it. The ECW Arena goes insane. One of my favorite moments in ECW.


Posted By: theBZA (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM

 
 
Rutherford is awesome. Way to give it back to them! Personally, I read StrongStyleSoldiers answer but couldn't think of anything you said that was offensive... then went back and saw Benoit.

Actually, at first I thought they were pissed because they didn't know who Barry Windham was.

Good for you for telling the haters to go fuck themselves and/or their mothers.


Posted By: Madcapunlimited (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 08:31 AM

 
 
one person remembered HBK kicking Jannetty thru the window.... Does anyone write without trying to push some agenda anymore? Its not what made YOU THE WRITER angry, it's what drew HEAT.... goddamn

Posted By: Guest#1249 (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 02:28 AM

Actually, more than one person mentioned that. Just sayin'. :)


Posted By: Jeremy Thomas (Registered)  on July 22, 2009 at 08:35 AM

 
 
What about Owen kicking Bret's injured leg from under him? One petulant act of spite and a career is born.

P.S. A real murder doesn't belong in an article about fake wrestling.


Posted By: Dr. John Smith (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 08:39 AM

 
 
hey, rutherford, far be it from me to cast dispersions, but, what are you doing? you really feel the need to defend yourself not once but twice in this comments section. i say just let it go, you're really showing your immaturity. like you said, it's their opinion and everyone has a right to it. you are making yourself look like a 12-year old girl. weak man, weak. oh, and by the way, with the exception of your number 1, your entire list sucked. that's my opinion. do with it what you will.

Posted By: hartfan (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 08:55 AM

 
 
I cannot believe no one mentioned Paul "Mr Wonderful" Orndorf turning on and piledriving Hogan and joining the Heenan family.

Posted By: FCT (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 09:09 AM

 
 
Lots of great lists here, but 2 incidents involving Sammartino were missing:

1) Superstar Billy Graham using the ropes to pin Sammartino for the title. They scheduled that match in the middle of the card so Graham could exit safely from the fans who would stay in the building.

2) Zbyszko's heel turn on Sammartino. The stories of the heel heat Zbyszko got for that are legendary.


Posted By: guest (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 12:53 PM

 
 
TOTALLY agree with you on the comments below. I thought that the Hassan character was actually going over suprisingly horribly well and then they had the absolutely worst timing with their "piano wire/terrorists" run-in. Such a shame...

The thing about Mohammed Hassan, was that EVERYTHING he said was TRUE. I thought it was a great angle, rigt up until the 'ski-mask wearing piano wire terrorists' made an American Muslim who was pissed at being stereotyped, INTO a stereotype. Total jumping the shark, and he could have been a big star if Vince hadn't opted for the dumbass 80s angle.

It still amazes me that anyone with half a braincell actually booed him - he never ONCE glorified 9/11 or anything like that, just pointed out that the American public have treated anyone with his skin tone like shit ever since - which is indisputably true.

Even more interesting is that the guy who played Hassan was actually Italian in heritage....

Posted By: chris.crowing (Registered) on July 22, 2009 at 04:12 AM


Posted By: Julian Bond (Registered)  on July 22, 2009 at 10:11 AM

 
 
I am so happy that someone else agree's with me when Len mentioned that Kevin Nash is underrated. Sure, he can't pull any fancy Japanese moves or do flip out of his ass, but the guy is 6'11 & 3/4"! He isn't suppose to be some finesse guy doing stuff midgets are there for!

I dunno if it's they can be considered "top" heat seaking, but anything Trish did when she was heel (both times), was just awesome. From teasing/seducing Bubba with his whole table obsession to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zqyoHmi71s

Trish was one of the top heels ever in the company, imo.


Posted By: Eboney (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 10:13 AM

 
 
Forget about the Benoit comment. The most offensive statement in this column is when Archibald says "Kevin Nash is definitely one of the more underrated talents of all time." I think I threw up in my mouth just a little...

Posted By: Slappy (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 10:51 AM

 
 
The fact that nobody even mentioned Shane Douglas shaking Pitbull #1's halo and being chased down by 95% of the roster is a disgrace.

Posted By: Jason S (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 12:46 PM

 
 
If you go by the definition given at the beginning of the article, the Benoit situation only counts as a heat seeking moment if he did what he did to try and get people to hate him.

"What is a "Heat Seaking" Moment? A Heat Seeking Moment is one in which the heel is doing everything he can to get the people to hate him."


Posted By: Chris (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 10:57 AM

 
 
Mr. Rutherford apparently has forgotten about reality and fantasy. We as fans love wrestling and the escape from the real world, and when the two worlds overlap most of us know it, love it, and want more. But when we cannot tell the difference between the two we look like idiots and we can lose any credibility have having anything intelligent to say. Mr. Rutherford is choosing to walk into that area where there is no difference between real and fantasy, and hence losing his credibility at the same time. I guess we can be forgiving to the village idiot - if we understand he is the village idiot. We now understand Scott - we understand.
"Heat seeking moment" and a damn tragedy are two different things. Rutherford doesn't know that, and thats ok - he's now the village idiot. Ashish will probably be just as forgiving - remember any publicity is good publicity, right?
And we'll all probably want to come back to see what the village idiot will say next.


Posted By: Shane (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 11:05 AM

 
 
Why is it people seem to think if you don't mention about, it either didn't happen or people forget. Benoit did something horrible. While way more terrible by infinite miles, so did Hitler but he's still talked about in History. I'm not comparing what these 2 did, just saying bad things happen and people need to realize you can't change history, just try and learn from it FFS. Get over yourselves.

Posted By: APrince66 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM

 
 
I seriously dug the topic this week. Made me think a lot about wrestling's greatest storylines from when I was a kid to how things are playing out to this day.

Couple of comments:
- I totally second the Pillman ECW debut. That moment was just brilliant because one moment everyone in the building is loving him and thrilled about his arrival in the company and the next he turns on them and the very same people who were cheering only moments before then wanted to kick his ass.

-The Raven/Sandman deal - I wouldn't necessarily single out the crucifixion bit, but focus more on the story leading up to it...the fact that Raven played mind games with Hack by brainwashing his wife and young son was an unbelievable heat tactic.

-Edge - Sure, the Matt Hardy/Lita affair was what pushed him into uberheel status but what about the night when the heel trigger was pulled? Taboo Tuesday '04 when he walked out on Benoit during their tag title match and then came up later in the evening to screw HBK out of his title shot? Great, unsung moment there: "IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME!!!!"

and finally-
-Vickie Guerrero's "EXCUSE ME!!!" I'll bet Eddy would have never guessed that his wife would someday become such an awesome heat magnet.


Posted By: JMAC (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM

 
 
I rediscovered it a few months ago and glad to see it mentioned, but the HBK teasing Hart comeback was just awesome. That crowd was absolutely hating him as usual, and I can't remember hearing a crowd erupt like that when Hart's music hit the speakers. Likewise, I've never heard a crowd go from that loud in one direction to the opposite in such a short amount of time.

Posted By: Guest#7252 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 11:43 AM

 
 
Meehan, you said in an earlier column that you started watching wrestling after Wrestlemania I. Here you said you were going to limit your choices to events you saw when they originally aired. But you mentioned the Jimmy Snuka/Rowdy Roddy Piper incident which occurred before Wrestlemania I. Care to explain?

Posted By: Bob (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM

 
 
@ Len Archibald

4. Triple H walks out of WM 2000 the champ

Man that ending to this day still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I refer to WM 2000 as the show with the worst ending in the history of our sport.


Posted By: Dave (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 12:07 PM

 
 
I still dont get why Hassan was canned. Shouldnt writers get canned for that? It wasnt a shoot but a well-planned angle. WWE always passes the buck.

Posted By: Guest#3296 (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 01:52 AM

I would go as far as to say that not only should have Hassan filed a wrongful termination lawsuit, but he should have included disrcriminatory practices and an unsafe working enviornment in the suit. Seriously some fan may have murdered him for that. That angle was all on the writers and McMahon.


Posted By: the truth (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 12:07 PM

 
 
A few not mentioned:

WCW - Bischoff Shaving Ric Flair's Head..the fans were rabid on this one

WCW - Curt Hennig slamming the cage door on Flair at War Games '97.

ECW - The Crucifiction Angle. Though controvercial, the fans shit on it and created too much heat.

ECW - Shane Douglas' breaking Pitbull 1's neck, and then attacking him while in the halo was massive dickhead heat

WCW - Fingerpoke of Doom incident and subsequent NWO reformation. Look it up on YouTube

USWA - Any attack on the beloved Eric Embry. The battery acid one comes to mind. True wrestling fans remember this stuff.

USWA - Eddie Gilbert runs down Jerry Lawler with his car! Again, for the diehard fan

WWE - Jericho's attack on Flair where he beat him to a bloody pulp and then destroyed his watch from last year. Ultimate dick head heel stuff there.

NWA - Terry Funk's attack on Flair at War Games 89 right after Flair won the title back. This was huge heat for Funk!

WWE - Megapowers Explode [2/3/89] SNME Savage turns on Hogan in the medical room and becomes a monster heel. This incident, due to Liz being involved created massive heat for Savage.

There's a few more..dig them up on youtube if you can find them


Posted By: Skiddy (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 12:28 PM

 
 
"it's no wonder why the fans freaked out when this attack went down (bonus points for Roberts' "wedding present" surprise shortly thereafter):"

Quick timeline correction: The wedding present happened at SummerSlam '91 in August of that year. The cobra biting incident occurred at TV tapings in November and aired the week prior to Survivor Series '91.


Posted By: Jason S (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 01:14 PM

 
 
"We got a mom in the front row that taught her daughter how to suck dick"

- Buh Buh Ray Dudley

Posted By: WMD (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 06:09 AM

Hehehe...damn I forgot to mention this!! Yea that was the killer quote that I remember as well from Heatwave 99'. I remember that my mom walked in on me when I was rewatching on VHS and my mouth dropped to the floor as she walked away shaking her head! Funny shit.


Posted By: Julian Bond (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 01:55 PM

 
 
one person remembered HBK kicking Jannetty thru the window.... Does anyone write without trying to push some agenda anymore? Its not what made YOU THE WRITER angry, it's what drew HEAT.... goddamn

Posted By: Guest#1249 (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 02:28

He DID NOT KICK him through the fuckin' window. He THREW him through it!!


Posted By: Guest#8856 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:41 PM

 
 
Gotta go with everytime someone puts Canada in it's place.

HBK - Summer 1997
The Rock - Feb 2003
HBK again - August 2005

There's just something fun about tearing new assholes in those that deserve it.


Posted By: hmm (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:41 PM

 
 
"if people don't like that opinion...fuck them."

Posted By: Scott Rutherford (Registered) on July 22, 2009 at 02:04 AM

Wow, that is some real journalistic integrity on display there. Someone representing the website telling everyone who doesnt agree with him "fuck you".

Someday, technology will reach the point that folks will be able to reach through the monitor and bitchslap and smug right off your face.


Posted By: Guest#0457 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 02:50 PM

 
 
you can catch the entire HBK montreal promo at dailymotion.com in one 16 min clip
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/ x4m7fb_shawn-michaels-promo-at-montreal-on_sport
an absolute classic btw happy b-day to HBK-44 and SELENA GOMEZ-17 shes ridicoulsly hot.


Posted By: james T. (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 03:30 PM

 
 
So by Scott Rutherfords logic Vince McMahons steroid trial should be on his list as well right? I mean the feds were involved right? That's heat right?
If you really believed that whole HEAT BS how about Brody getting murdered, Vince like i said, hell your whole list could be out of the ring incidents!

But no he had to go there with Benoit and try and be "cool" or something and then come on the comment section and act like a 12 year old trying to defend himself with such graceful comments like "Eat a dick"

True Class


Posted By: Simon (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 03:28 PM

 
 
"if people don't like that opinion...fuck them."

Posted By: Scott Rutherford (Registered) on July 22, 2009 at 02:04 AM

Wow, that is some real journalistic integrity on display there. Someone representing the website telling everyone who doesnt agree with him "fuck you".

Someday, technology will reach the point that folks will be able to reach through the monitor and bitchslap and smug right off your face.

Posted By: Guest#0457 (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 02:50 PM

Yeah, cause these guys are JOURNALISTS, not guys who happen to write for a wrestling site. I love the commenters who always want PROFESSIONALISM, all while talking loads of shit.


Posted By: Dur dur (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 03:45 PM

 
 
Scott Rutherford is a douchebag.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Benoit didn't murder his family and commit suicide to get heat.

I would also agree with the person who said Vince didn't screw Bret to gain heat but to protect his company. I would say the "Bret Screwed Bret" interview was more of a planned out heat-seeking moment. If, of course, the Screwjob wasn't a work.

PS -- Scott Rutherford is a douchebag.


Posted By: ODog (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 03:59 PM

 
 
HBK's 2005 SS promo.

Man I can't even watch that video nearly 4 years later and not get pissed. That for me was the biggest heat moment ever for me I am shocked that fans didn't jump in the ring and try and Murder HBK. I want to know how he left the Bell Centre that night how he got out of there. I dream to this day of a Bret Hart return that night I thought it would happen and HBK ripped the "Harts" out of every Canadian watching. Damn HBK your lucky you made it out of La Belle Provence alive.


Posted By: Cool Moe D (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 04:18 PM

 
 
Well I lol'ed at the Benoit comment. Kudos to you for a good joke. Shame everyone else has no sense of humour. If we can't laugh what can we do?

Posted By: Guest#4753 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 04:27 PM

 
 
Hehehe...damn I forgot to mention this!! Yea that was the killer quote that I remember as well from Heatwave 99'. I remember that my mom walked in on me when I was rewatching on VHS and my mouth dropped to the floor as she walked away shaking her head! Funny shit.

Posted By: Julian Bond (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 01:55 PM


The sad part is that you're 31 years old.


Posted By: The Fuj (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 04:27 PM

 
 
I think I only saw one other comment - where are the totals?

From the lists above, my list would be:

5. Andy Kaufmann was mentioned - and he was a heat magnet. Specifically - when he turned on his partner Jerry Lawler - you would have sworn that the crowd was ready to literally kill him.

4. Savage attacking Ricky Steamboat and injuring his throat. This is the one memory of kid where I actually hated a wrestler.

3. The Montreal Screwjob - turned an entire country against McMahon and HBK.

2. Fingerpoke of Doom - the heat generated was actually too great for WCW as many people were turned off by this action.

1. Hogan joining the Outsiders and forming the NWO. Enough said.


Posted By: BobbyC (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 04:35 PM

 
 
"if people don't like that opinion...fuck them."

Posted By: Scott Rutherford (Registered) on July 22, 2009 at 02:04 AM

Wow, that is some real journalistic integrity on display there. Someone representing the website telling everyone who doesnt agree with him "fuck you".

Someday, technology will reach the point that folks will be able to reach through the monitor and bitchslap and smug right off your face.

Posted By: Guest#0457 (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 02:50 PM

Yeah, cause these guys are JOURNALISTS, not guys who happen to write for a wrestling site. I love the commenters who always want PROFESSIONALISM, all while talking loads of shit.

Posted By: Dur dur (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 03:45 PM

I never spoke "shit" to Mr. Rutherford. I never voiced my disapproval with his inclusion of Benoit on this list. Rather, HE made a blanket statement telling EVERYONE who disagreed with his opinion to fuck off.

Of course, his inclusion of Benoit in the first place could serve NO other purpose that to instigate this sort of fervor, resulting in more hits.


Posted By: Guest#5902 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 04:43 PM

 
 
I hope that tonight, the ghost of Chris Benoit rapes Scott Rutherford, all for the sake of "heat".

Posted By: Guest#7334 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 04:46 PM

 
 
I was pretty young at the time so I was furious with Ric Flair and the Four Horsemen when they booted Sting at the Clash of the Champions. I was never a big Ole fan but he did a great job of be thoroughly hate-able as he casually informed Sting that he wasn't a Horseman anymore and if it weren't for Ric he'd already be dead. It was like he was Sting's asshole father and he was letting him know that he'd done wrong and a beating was coming. I thought for a second that Ric would stand by Sting (I was relatively new to WCW at the time) so when he sided with Ole and Arn I hated him like he was Ted Dibiase, the Honkytonk Man, and Rick Rude all rolled into one flamboyant package. The main event was confusing because the Horsemen had been booked as faces, but the earlier events made them so hated that even the J-Tex Corporation was getting face pops.

Posted By: Lance O' Leary (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 04:48 PM

 
 
WWE didn't fire Muhammad Hassan in response to the controversy caused by his unfortunately timed "terrorist attack" on Undertaker. WWE had the chance to edit that segment from the broadcast, but chose instead to run it with disclaimers warning viewers of what they were about to see. The logic, I suppose, was that people would realize the segment was taped before the attacks in London and realize that the angle wasn't as tasteless as they thought it was.

That logic was wrong.

WWE still clearly wanted to use Hassan as they'd planned from the beginning -- have him go over Undertaker at Vengeance and then face Batista for the World Heavyweight Title at SummerSlam -- but UPN responded to all the angry letters by forcing WWE to pull Hassan off TV. Without the ability to put Hassan on SmackDown!, WWE instead had Undertaker crush him at Vengeance and effectively eliminate the character. There were rumors that he would be sent back to RAW, as TNN (or was that show back on USA by then? I don't remember) had no such Hassan ban, but my understanding is that Hassan himself requested his release a month or two later since creative hadn't figured out how to reintroduce him.

Hassan lost his job as a result of the "terrorist attack," but it wasn't because WWE didn't like the heat he was getting -- UPN forced WWE's hand.


Posted By: G. Jonah Jameson (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 06:21 PM

 
 
The midget Bret...Never been a time I've hated two people more in a wrestling ring...as I was so shocked and disappointed that Bret was gone as Bret was the greatest in my eyes as a kid...

Posted By: Guest#4214 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 05:29 PM

 
 
Hehehe...damn I forgot to mention this!! Yea that was the killer quote that I remember as well from Heatwave 99'. I remember that my mom walked in on me when I was rewatching on VHS and my mouth dropped to the floor as she walked away shaking her head! Funny shit.

Posted By: Julian Bond (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 01:55 PM


The sad part is that you're 31 years old.

Posted By: The Fuj (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 04:27 PM


...lol...wow! Usually I don't take too many comments here personally cause it's all in good fun...but where the living hell did you get 31 from? hehe seriously dude! im definitely not that age and it made me laugh thinking of where the living holy hell you got this number from?!?!?

i hope you didn't say...and I quote "hahahahaha im young and this guy say he watched something on vhs!!! hahahahaha he must be...like...31 or something!!! hahahaha"

dont give a shit bout the age cause 31 sure as hell isnt old at all, but because you are a few years off my friend i hope you go back in your joke book and think of something more creative to write!


Posted By: Julian Bond (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 06:02 PM

 
 
Benoit now has X-Pac Heat with me. In that I don't want to hear about him. Just because I'm annoyed by the endless debating it causes amongst wrestling geeks. Yes he was great as a wrestler and yes you can't just hand-wave his work, but you can't hand-wave what he did either.

I wonder if it got this bad during the O.J. case? Anyone on any football sites or newsgroups at the time care to elaborate?


Posted By: Guest#6485 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 06:13 PM

 
 
One day Joe handing the title to Angle at Slammiversary will make this list....and what about HHH turning on Orton?

Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 06:24 PM

 
 
Aw man, Rutherford threw that Benoit thing in there just to get people pissed at him. He was looking for a comment war with the trolls and got one, yet the best he could do was take an insult thrown at him and use the same insult back at the guy. Quite impressive sir I'll be sure to read your column that I didn't even knew existed or have any idea as to what it is called.

Posted By: Martin Lawrence (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 06:52 PM

 
 
Hey, Guest#5902, I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to Guest#0457

Posted By: Dur dur (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 06:57 PM

 
 
...lol...wow! Usually I don't take too many comments here personally cause it's all in good fun...but where the living hell did you get 31 from? hehe seriously dude! im definitely not that age and it made me laugh thinking of where the living holy hell you got this number from?!?!?

i hope you didn't say...and I quote "hahahahaha im young and this guy say he watched something on vhs!!! hahahahaha he must be...like...31 or something!!! hahahaha"

dont give a shit bout the age cause 31 sure as hell isnt old at all, but because you are a few years off my friend i hope you go back in your joke book and think of something more creative to write!

Posted By: Julian Bond (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 06:02 PM


...but you took this one personally...

Must of hit a mark somewhere, but its all in good fun... right?

The fact you called the "joke" uncreative but it went over your head, is dare i say it, funny?

oh well, Ill keep slinging them from the cheap seats.


Posted By: The Fuj (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 08:41 PM

 
 
I still remember an ECW PPV on Mothers day. Rhino put Sandman and his wife Lori through tables, grabs the mic and screams " Happy Mothers Day......You Fucking Bitch !!!" It was awesome and the crowd was mega pissed, I loved it.

Posted By: vampiro56 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 08:35 PM

 
 
"but it was Bret's brutality and Austin's never-say-die attitude at WrestleMania 13 that cemented the Texas Rattlesnake as the baddest S.O.B. ever to set foot in a World Wrestling Federation ring."

Yeah, that and Austin the Tough Guy getting the shit beat out of him so hard he passed out. Bret Hart owned him and was my hero.


Posted By: Guest#9429 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 08:53 PM

 
 
Bubba calling out a mother because "she taught her daughter how to suck dick" is still one of my favorite ECW promos ever. And the dude climbing down from the balconey to fight only to be restrained by security while Bubba continued to taunt him was pure fucking gold. Some people have called what the Dudleyz did in ECW cheap heat, and yeah they did say some seriously vile things, but the reaction was nuclear. Another great moment is when they 3D'ed Beulah. Another riot almost ensued. It's a shame they've turned into such a self-parody.

The Lawler debut in ECW is another great moment.

Pillman calling the ECW crowd smart marks, defining what a smart mark is, and then threatening to piss in the ring was pretty epic.

Raven crucifying Sandman was way ahead of its time, and accomplished what it set out to do.

In fact, ECW was always full of great "heat-seeking" moments. Outside of that:

The Horsemen hiring a cameraman to follow them while they stalked Dusty, and then broke his arm so they could send a message to Magnum and the NWA's other faces.

Flair scraping Ricky Morton's face in concrete. Take your biggest pretty boy hero, have your biggest dickhead try to take away his looks, watch the girls cry.

Chris Adams turning on Kevin Von Erich with a wooden chair. Any time someone turned on a Von Erich it was a big deal. This one was pretty awesome.

Punk baiting the ROH crowd on after winning the belt and then threatening to take the belt to WWE is a great moment.


Posted By: Guest#3421 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 09:17 PM

 
 
Meehan, you said in an earlier column that you started watching wrestling after Wrestlemania I. Here you said you were going to limit your choices to events you saw when they originally aired. But you mentioned the Jimmy Snuka/Rowdy Roddy Piper incident which occurred before Wrestlemania I. Care to explain?

Posted By: Bob (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Haha.. Pwned!


Posted By: Guest#5524 (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

 
 
Sgt. Slaughter turns on America to become Iraqi sympathizer. Hello?....anyone??....bueller??

Posted By: ripstamps (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 09:22 PM

 
 
One I would put on here was when Paul E. Dangerously and the Original Midnight Express showed up on the Saturday night NWA show and attacked Jim Cornette and his Midnight Express. Too bad it happened in that small studio they used at the time and not in a larger arena, like at a Clash Of The Champions. Would have loved to have seen a reaction from a large crowd.

Posted By: Tadano (Guest)  on July 22, 2009 at 09:48 PM

 
 
It's a shame Hassan wasn't around long enough to make it to a Tribute to the Troops special. Now THAT would have been a heat seeker.

Posted By: Guest#0757 (Guest)  on July 23, 2009 at 09:46 AM

 
 
...but you took this one personally...

Must of hit a mark somewhere, but its all in good fun... right?

The fact you called the "joke" uncreative but it went over your head, is dare i say it, funny?

oh well, Ill keep slinging them from the cheap seats.

Posted By: The Fuj (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 08:41 PM

My bad man...I must of been PMS-ing...or just didn't get ure joke. Read back my own comment and said "Why the living hell did I write that back?!?". Its all good. Keep slinging them.


Posted By: Julian Bond (Registered)  on July 23, 2009 at 09:43 AM

 
 
I'm assuming that whoever said Julian Bond was 31 got the digits in the wrong order.

Posted By: Dave_W (Guest)  on July 23, 2009 at 05:30 AM

 
 
Great topic. My top 5 would be
5. Evolution beating the tar out of Goldberg at Summerslam inside Elimination Chamber.
4. Hogan joining NWO.
3. Jake Roberts' snake biting Savage with Elizabeth begging him to stop.
2. Hbk throws Marty thru barber shop window.
1.Montralscrewjob.


Posted By: Legend (Guest)  on July 23, 2009 at 05:56 AM

 
 
I didnt care for Rutherford putting Benoit in his honorable mentions either, but at least if you want to disagree with him, your comment will show up here, unlike for instance if you disagree with that cuntwipe Chambers writes.

Posted By: Y2G (Guest)  on July 23, 2009 at 07:09 AM

 
 
I don't think Rutherford was trying to be cool, he just missed the point "heat seeking" as opposed to "heat getting". I am sure Benoit was not thinking about seeking heat, but he sure as hell got it. The writer need not apologize to any of us for his comment, it was just that a comment.
The one thing that I believe is that you should never apologize for saying something, no matter what it is. You said, you can't erase it (not that you would want to), so people need to suck it up and get over it.
If we all talked about Benoit the way we used to, there would not be a problem on these sites or in wrestling when comments are made like that. Wrestling fans are not holier than anyone, in the "real world" we still talk and comment on murders (OJ is just but one example), when we have absolutely nothing invested in these people's lives.
Wrestling fans are too sensitive and defensive on this topic.
I am from Canada, this does not "hurt" me in anyway what Benoit did, I surely do not agree with it, but it happens. Every single day of the year.


Posted By: SuperJeff (Guest)  on July 23, 2009 at 01:20 PM

 
 
The Benoit news report should be the number 1 heat seeking moment next to the Owen Hart suicide. You all know he jumped. Then the Von Erich Dynasty should be number 3 for their demise. Then the Montreal screw job and finally, Bossman feeding Pepper to Al Snow.

Posted By: Ron Germany (Guest)  on July 23, 2009 at 02:26 PM

 
 
I don't think most people are upset because of Benoit's name was brought up, I think most people just dislike an attention whore who brings up stuff like this just to get attention on himself.

I think THAT is the main issue.

Like some of said you have the right to say whatever you dam well please...but don't expect people to like you or even want to tolerate you when you try and "whore" yourself out like this.


Posted By: jared (Guest)  on July 23, 2009 at 02:27 PM

 
 
I don't think most people are upset because of Benoit's name was brought up, I think most people just dislike an attention whore who brings up stuff like this just to get attention on himself.

I think THAT is the main issue.

Like some of said you have the right to say whatever you dam well please...but don't expect people to like you or even want to tolerate you when you try and "whore" yourself out like this.

Posted By: jared (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 02:27 PM

It's awesome when people try to pyschoanylize me. If I really wanted attention the way people think that they believe I was trying to get it I would have put Benoit #1 and been all FTW.

Highly amusing that people who know NOTHING about me other than I contribute 15 minutes of my time per week for Top 5’s these days believe they have the answer.

For the record, a mere two months after the Benoit tragedy, I wrote an op piece defending Benoit as a good person who destroyed his reputation. My stance as a Benoit fan and refusing to delete him from my treasured wrestling memories is nothing new and nor will I ever stop doing it. Everyone can feel free to skip what I write because it’s that persons right to do so just as it’s my right to mention him.

I may have very well told everyone to fuck off but that’s because I can. Everyone else seems to believe they can call me whatever they want because they don’t agree with what I say. Why in this free world can’t I be afforded the same opportunity?

The small mindedness of the people that comment on 411 wrestling pieces astounds me no end.


Posted By: Scott Rutherford (Registered)  on July 23, 2009 at 05:25 PM

 
 
No mention of the N.W.O.
4 Horsemen parody?How 'bout Mike Awesome dropping the ECW title to TAZ after jumping ship to WCW?Goldust fondling Ahmed Johnson at KOTR?


Posted By: Jason (Guest)  on July 23, 2009 at 08:48 PM

 
 
Sigh...

The problem with Rutherford's Benoit mention is that it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what the list was about. I'm not outraged, it was just juvenile.

I'm surprised we didn't see anything from Japan on here. Then again, nothing is springing to mind immediately, so maybe that shouldn't be so surprising.


Posted By: Jeremy (Guest)  on July 24, 2009 at 12:29 AM

 
 
Gotta say i lol'd hard at fuj's comment

fuj = pure comedy


Posted By: loves the fuj (Guest)  on July 24, 2009 at 01:05 AM

 
 
No love for the Owen Hart suicided. Hell mentioning Benoit's name gets heat. Rutherford's name gets heat. Benoit should be number 1, but I still say the Owen Hart suicide is number 1.

Posted By: Blue Blazer Jumps Off Roofs (Guest)  on July 24, 2009 at 02:18 AM

 
 
Trish was one of the top heels ever in the company, imo.

Posted By: Eboney (Guest) on July 22, 2009 at 10:13 AM

I dont normally say opinions are wrong, but this one is.

And Scott Rutherford punked all ya'll. HAHA


Posted By: Guest#3778 (Guest)  on July 24, 2009 at 03:43 PM

 
 
How about a column with the top 5 heat moments that backfired for one reason or another.

One of my favs was the Dudleys powerbombing women through tables. It was going real well in getting them heat, until they did it to Mae Young, and it essentially turned them face.

Or how about Jim Cornette turning on the Dynamic Dudes to rejoin with the Midnight Express in late 89, which got one of the loudest face pops of the year.


Posted By: Michael L (Guest)  on July 24, 2009 at 08:30 PM

 
 
Nobody mentioned HBK beating Bulldog in England at One Night Only after Bulldog had dedicated the match to his dying sister?

I still hate HBK for that.


Posted By: Tim (Guest)  on July 26, 2009 at 06:10 AM

 


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