The MeeThinks Friday FreeThinks: 08.07.09
Posted by John Meehan on 08.07.2009
Back with a vengeance, and a few surprises you've just gotta' see to believe!
Hey all, and welcome back to your regularly scheduled week-end dose of intrawebz 'rasslin optimism. After my second one week hiatus in the past month, I owe some serious thanks to Matt Sforcina for stepping it up big time and delivering the Friday FreeThinks in a way that only he can. Bravo and thanks again, Matt!
So where was I?
Some buddies and I took a week-long trip to Tampa, Florida to spend a few days catching up with old college friends and kicking back in the sweet Florida sunshine. Coming off of a pretty nasty knee injury (MRI results are saying "dislocated patella," which is about as painful as it sounds), I enjoyed the hell out of a whole week of sitting around with nothing more to worry about than reapplying sunblock every two hours.
And since news is relatively light this week -- I'll even throw in a handful of video highlights from the trip for your viewing pleasure.
Like so...
THE TAMPA ADVENTURE: DAY ONE The Road Trip Begins
Oh right -- wrestling news!
The SELL of the week goes to Chavo Guerrero, who gave the "celebrity guest host" forumla a taste of its own medicine when he made it clear that he had no real idea just who, exactly, this guy "Jeremy Piven" (the host of Fear Factor?) and his little Asian buddy (that guy from Heroes?) actually were. For weeks, WWE has trotted out "C"-lebs whose wrestling fandom and cultural relevance have ranged from spot-on to suspect, and Chavo did a great job of indicating that he knew just as little about this week's guest host as Jeremy Piven himself knew about the WWE product.
The TELL of the week goes to Jeremy Piven, who made it abundantly clear that he really didn't have much of a pre-existing familiarity with or interest in professional wrestling whatsoever. For a guy who claimed that hosting RAW was "a dream" come true, you'd think he'd be something of a WRESTLING fan, right? Silly rabbit. The second that the phrase "Summerfest" escaped his lips, Piven made it staggeringly obvious that he was only there to shill his latest movie. And while I can appreciate the whole "smartassed heel out to exploit the industry as a stepping stone" gimmick (it certainly worked for early Double J and post-Scorpion King Dwayne Johnson), it's really not that much to ask an Emmy-winning actor to remember ONE FREAKING LINE.
THE TAMPA ADVENTURE: DAY TWO Mini Golf Madness
Jeremy Piven and Dr. Ken Jeong - Hollywood actors Jeremy Piven and Dr. Ken Jeong served as the guest hosts of this week's Monday Night RAW. A more detailed breakdown of their actions as guest hosts (particularly as it relates to The Miz) is covered in detail in "the developments" section below.
Danny Danger - local talent Danny Danger made his one-off debut with World Wrestling Entertainment on Tuesday's ECW on SyFy broadcast in a losing effort against Ezekiel Jackson. Danger is not believed to have signed a long-term WWE contract at this time.
THE TAMPA ADVENTURE: DAY THREE Just Like Livin' in Paradise
Marty Elias - this seldom-seen WWE referee was released from his contract with World Wrestling Entertainment this week. Elias' spot appears to have been filled by Justin King, a 25-year-old referee from WWE's developmental system.
Tony Atlas - the online profile for WWE Hall of Famer Tony Atlas was removed this week, lending further credence to the notion that he has been (or will very soon be) released by World Wrestling Entertainment. Atlas has not been seen on WWE programming since Mark Henry was traded to RAW several months ago.
THE Brian Kendrick - WWE came to terms with the release of RAW superstar THE Brian Kendrick late last week, thus confirming the long-held suspicion that the former tag team champion had long been on "thin ice" with company management as a result of his continued violations of WWE's banned substance policy (word has it that Kendrick had something of a fondness for the herb, if you catch my drift).
We first addressed Kendrick's run-ins with WWE's Wellness policy way back in January, but the bottom line is that Kendrick refused to conform with the company's stance on controlled substances, and it ultimately ended up costing him his job.
Regardless of your personal stance on marijuana use, this case is really quite cut and dry -- as a publicly held company, WWE needs to issue some sort of equally PUBLIC stance against drug use among their employees (Wal Mart does it, as does Ford, Pepsi, and countless others). They issue similar statements on appropriate codes of conduct, dress, and media correspondence. And when an employee REPEATEDLY violates a public policy (even if the policy is kinda' silly), then they leave their employer no choice but to discipline them accordingly.
Same as if Kendrick acted unprofessionally in a public area (sorry, Rhyno).
Same as if he spilled the beans about upcoming storylines ('sup, Lex Express?).
And same as if he insisted on using "banned" maneuvers in spite of repeated warnings not to do so (ala Paul London).
Bottom line -- Brian Kendrick's behaviors made it strikingly clear that he'd much rather do "his own thing" than "the company thing" -- even if it ended up costing him his job. WWE granted him his release accordingly, and now he's free to come and go as he pleases, smoke all of the pot he can afford and use all of the in-ring maneuvers that his little heart desires in independent wrestling venues all across the globe. Heck, he might even manage to live a happier life and make MORE money for himself that way in the long run.
Savio Vega - Savio Vega was released from his role as a backstage agent & booker by TNA Wrestling this week alongside longtime TNA booking committee member Dutch Mantell as part of a "cost-cutting measure" (More on that immediately below)
Dutch Mantell - For years, TNA's booking committee had included some combination of Dutch Mantell, Jeff Jarrett, and Vince Russo. While other bookers were cycled through on occassion (Abyss, Jeremy Borash, and Mike Tenay have each taken part in booking committee decisions in the past) -- the trio of Mantell, Jarrett, and Russo have pretty much been the cornerstones of the company's "creative" department.
That all changed this week, when Jeff Jarrett's longtime associate in Dutch Mantell was given his walking papers -- along with fellow King of the Mountain friendly Savio Vega. Jarrett, you may recall, is currently riding out a "self-imposed" sabbatical from his backstage duties with TNA as a result of his real-life relationship with the ex-wife of TNA World Heavyweight Champion Kurt Angle. Jarrett's "sabbatical" from the company came on the heels of a backstage blowup with TNA President Dixie Carter, who is reportedly looking to buy Jarrett out of his ownership shares of the company in order to ensure its long-term survival.
In short --
"The times, they are a changin'."
Jeff Jarrett is the TNA Founder and still owns a considerable chunk of the company's assets. In return, he gets a pretty big say in what all goes on in terms of TNA booking decisions, programming, business investments, and the like.
However --
Due to the volatile nature between TNA's founder and its top star (Kurt Angle), Dixie Carter needs to choose which of these two performers is a better long-term investment for TNA Wrestling in the future (both in and OUT of the ring). Given the fact that Dixie and her people have (effectively) suspended Jarrett and canned his two biggest backstage supporters, one has to believe that this all is further proof of the eroding nature of Jeff Jarrett's backstage role within the TNA ranks.
By removing Jarrett's two closest allies from the booking committee, Dixie Carter has pretty much begun the process of phasing the TNA Founder out of his backstage duties. If he's suspended, he's not calling the shots. And when (if) he returns from suspension to find that his booking committee no longer is populated with his biggest supporters, Jarrett will quickly find himself powerless to affect any real change in the company he'd worked so hard to found in the first place.
THE TAMPA ADVENTURE: DAY FOUR Universal Studios Shenanigans
None - In a welcome development, there are no major injuries to report over the past seven days.
Sting - TNA mainstay Sting appears to be nearing the end of his in-ring tenure as an active member of the TNA roster, as local media reports have begun circulating that The Icon's October appearance with the company at their Bound For Glory pay per view will mark the end of his twenty-plus year career in the squared circle. Details are still emerging, but it looks as if TNA will soon be booking some form of "retirement" angle for the Stinger in order to coincide with this milestone in his career.
With Jeff Jarrett inching ever closer to "the outs" with TNA management, and with Sting seemingly on his way toward retirement (not to mention Kurt Angle's TNA contract expiring this fall), MeeThinks that big things will soon be in store for this "little company that could" once the leaves begin to turn. With at least one (if not two) major veteran players seemingly reaching the end of their days as an active performer on the TNA roster, one has got to believe that a sizable void will soon be opening at the top of the company's card.
The question now, of course, is just WHO exactly they'll be looking towards to fill it.
And while the optimist in Mee says "AJ Styles" or "Samoa Joe" (and the idealist in Mee cries "Matt Morgan!" or "The Motor City Machineguns!"), the realist in Mee can't help but think that TNA will soon be turning all sorts of attention toward folks like Bobby Lashley, Mick Foley, and Mr. Anderson...
(,,, Anderson).
While each of these performers are certainly talented in their own right, TNA is sitting on a golden opportunity to create NEW stars rather than simply recycling OLD stars just because they happen to come with a WWE pedigree to their credit. The coming months will teach fans a LOT about TNA's long-term strategy -- if Sting's (and Jarrett/Angle's) place is filled by AJ, Joe or Morgan? Then the company is probably quite serious about positioning themselves as a viable ALTERNATIVE to WWE programming -- which could set them up to make HUGE gains as those alternative strategies take hold in the months to follow.
If Stinger's spot is given to Foley, Lashley, or Anderson?
Then regardless of who's running the TNA ship (Jarrett, Angle, Dixie or whomever) -- it's pretty clear that TNA's long-term goals are only to feed off of the WWE castaways in order to make themselves into little more than an independently owned "fourth brand" of a wrestling organization that's already made it clear that they have little use for each of these guys in the first place.
In which case, the Motor City Machineguns might as well start booking their flights to Japan today.
Jeff Hardy - the World Heavyweight Champion once again finds himself at the center of WWE's backstage controversy this week, as Jeff Hardy is rumored to be wrapping up his latest stint with World Wrestling Entertainment in the coming weeks. According to industry sources, Hardy has been looking to take a break from the WWE touring schedule for several months now, and he has not yet re-signed a new contract with WWE at this time. Unless Hardy commits to a contract extension in the next three weeks, he is expected to stop working for the company immediately following this year's SummerSlam pay-per-view on Aug. 23.
MeeThinks?
Jeff Hardy's decision NOT to re-sign with WWE (at this time) is probably not the worst idea in the world at this stage of his career. Hardy is one strike away from a WWE pink slip the way it is, and he has long been plagued with a history of alcohol and substance abuse which one can only imagine must be incredibly magified by the added pressures of a WWE touring schedule (and a CHAMPION's touring schedule at that -- just ask Eddie Guerrero).
As such, if the rumors are true and Jeff Hardy really is considering taking a break from WWE, then more power to him. As a big fan of his in-ring work since his WWE return several years ago, I would MUCH rather see him "know when to say when" and step away from the spotlight on his own terms rather than lose his job or succumb to the same career-threatening "demons" that have haunted his personal life and professional efforts for the better part of a decade.
If Hardy steps away on his own terms, then the doors are always open for him to return when he's ready and able to perform once again. But if he sticks out a new contract simply because the money is good -- there is a very real (and very dangerous) temptation to resent his employer (and its rigorous schedule of touring and performance) in short order, which could end up with him falling victim to a lot of the same problems that have plagued him for years.
So if I'm Jeff Hardy?
Walk away on top with your head held high, and leave the door open for a return. Much better to go out on a high note than on a "high" one.
All that said, however --
Jeff Hardy's pending departure may not necessarily telegraph the conclusion to his SummerSlam encounter with CM Punk quite as obviously as many have suggested. Though all signs point to Hardy leaving the company immediately following his August 23 title defense (which, presumably, will end with him dropping the gold on his way out the door), WWE has been known to "work the smarts" from time to time by making questionable and/or controversial booking decisions at the last minute simply to keep fans on their toes (as was the case when Batista defeated Randy Orton for the WWE Championship only to forfeit the belt due to injury the very next night).
Bottom line --
All eyes now turn squarely towards the younger Hardy brother, as his offscreen life decisions will undoubtedly cause a dramatic change to the onscreen landscape of WWE's most engaging top-level title program.
THE TAMPA ADVENTURE: DAY SIX I Like the Night Life, Baby
The Miz Banished From RAW for All Eternity Real World Alumus Gets a Reality Check from Jeremy Piven
The Miz - RAW's smartmouthed superstar lost a match against John Cena this week that will result in him being "banished from RAW for all of eternity" (or until the next tri-branded supershow, of course). Presumably, this high-level departure will be used as an onscreen springboard to send The Miz on over to one of WWE's two remaining brands. The question for now, of course, is where.
Here's our options:
ECW - WWE's "third brand" is short on credible top-level heels that can actually cut a promo. Though they've got more than their fair share of rule-breakers, the roster's resident crop of baddies are still either very new to the brand (Seamus, Zack Ryder) or not all that great on the microphone (Kozlov, Zeke, Shelton). As a result, the show could definitely benefit from the injection of an easily-recognizable top-level heel who can talk AND wrestle a match and still manage to keep an audience's attention throughout.
If Miz moves to ECW, he'd be a great addition to the main event picture. Miz has been on "the A-show" long enough to bring a decent injection of star power with him upon his arrival, and he is the perfect character to play the "fish out of water" newcomer who feels that he's bigger (and better) than the roster he's been forced to join.
The problem, of course, is that he might just be right.
ECW only gets one hour of television time each week -- and it's already struggling to cram in each of the performers from its "new superstar initiative" the way it is. As a result, more Miz = less time for Seamus, Yoshi Tatsu, Zack Ryder, Tyler Reks and the rest of the gang. And that's not even including fellow "veteran" heels who can wrestle AND talk (like William Regal) who are currently assigned to the roster and still doing a sum total of ZERO along the way.
Verdict: An ECW Move would be GREAT for The Miz, but not so great for ECW.
Smackdown - WWE's Friday Night show has been on a roll, of late, and new stars like John Morrison and Dolph Ziggler seem destined for some serious main-event exposure in short order. The problem with Smackdown, however, is that injuries and contract expirations have made the show notoriously light on certifiable "headliners" for the time being (no Undertaker, no Edge, and perhaps no Jeff Hardy in the near future). As a result -- it's got a kickass midcard, but top-level "A-listers" are much harder to come by.
(Sure there's Jericho, but he's effectively a three-show performer).
Bearing this in mind --
Rey Mysterio probably won't be spending too much longer feuding over the brand's secondary title. With all of those injuries, CM Punk turning full-blown heel, and Jeff Hardy (presumably) headed out (for now), the masked superstar pretty much elevates to the brand's de-facto number one babyface... which means that it's hardly out of the question that we'll soon be seeing him back in the title hunt for the Big Gold Belt.
Hey cool! That frees up a new slot in the Smackdown midcard, right?
You betcha. And that's where John Morrison will likely step up to the plate. Morrison's latest flirtation with main event superstardom showed that he can more than hold up his end of the action IN the ring (the Jeff Hardy match from last week's Smackdown was tremendous), but he's still very new to the babyface waters (and his promos reflect that) -- so WWE management might seriously be considering plugging him into a high-profile feud in the brand's midcard just to ensure that he's ready to run with the big dogs on a full time basis.
So if Rey Rey heads to the main event and Morrison goes midcard (where Ziggler is there waiting for him) -- where does this leave The Miz?
Presumably, right alongside John Morrison in a war over the Intercontinental Championship. And that's a great thing for the brand, as it bolsters the midcard for a wide array of options in their midcard ranks (and really, one could do MUCH worse than an extended program of Morrison vs. Miz over the IC gold).
Unfortunately for Miz --
Dolph Ziggler has really been on a roll as Smackdown's resident smartass, which could mean that he and The Miz would effectively be duking it out for the exact same space on the card should both men be assigned to the same brand. And given the nature of each of their respective characters? It's hard to believe that either Dolph Ziggler or The Miz will be turning babyface any time soon, which means that there can only be one Highlander between them (as the old saying goes).
And given how much Ziggler has impressed (and improved)?
That could be terrible news for The Chick Magnet.
Verdict: A move to Smackdown! would be GREAT for the brand, but not so great for The Miz.
Triple H Teases a dX Reunion WWE Universe: Are you ready?
This week on RAW, Triple H found himself on the losing end of a two-on-one handicap match against Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase. After the match, The Game grabbed the microphone and told audiences that he might just have to call in for reinforcements in order to even the odds in his ongoing war against Randy Orton and his also-rans.
Minutes later, Hunter was seen making a phone call to an old friend who "doesn't do jobs." And with that, Shawn Michaels appears to be headed back to a WWE ring.
While this is good news for WWE fans (as Shawn Michaels is arguably the greatest active professional wrestler alive today), one can't help but notice that WWE's flagship broadcast now seems even MORE dominated by yet ANOTHER veteran performer who will soon be clogging up the main event picture and preventing anyone NOT named "Orton," "Cena," "Michaels" or "Triple H" from ever battling for the brand's top prize.
Well, that is until Batista comes back, of course.
Given how crowded RAW's main event is to begin with, the smartest answer in the short-term seems to be programming at least one or two of RAW's veteran stars in a program with or against one another where they are kept as far away from the WWE Championship as possible (as was the original plan with Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels not so long ago). Should a Shawn Michaels return be imminent, this means that WWE would be well-served to put The Heartbreak Kid into a program alongside Triple H -- presumably against Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase.
By autumn, DiBiase will be gearing up for a full-blown babyface turn (gotta' shill those DVDs, after all), which means that he'll probably find himself warring with some combination of Cody Rhodes and/or Randy Orton by December. Unfortunately, this leaves HBK and Triple H with little else to do but return to the title chase -- and that's pretty much bad news for anyone hoping to see some "new blood" in RAW's title hunt.
Solution?
Pull the trigger on the dX "farewell tour" this summer and through the fall, milk that cash cow for all that it's worth, but then pit Hunter and Shawn against one another in one last "war to settle the score" as WWE rolls into WrestleMania 26. Heck, if Shawn Michaels really is thinking of calling it a career sooner than later -- there's really no greater rival for him on a WWE roster than the Connecticut Blueblood who used to carry his bags.
Let's face it --
Regardless of whether one guy's a full-blown heel or not (Triple H is certainly due for a heel turn), a singles feud between these two men hasn't been done in years, and Michaels and Triple H have never had the opportunity to battle one-on-one on the grandest stage of them all. And if last year's Michaels vs. Jericho program taught us anything, it's that WWE's audience is happy to be served up a rehash of an old rivalry provided that it's presented to them with a clever new twist (lest we forget, HBK and Y2J at WrestleMania XIX).
Pairing Triple H with Shawn Michaels keeps BOTH men out of the title picture AND gives them something meaningful to do through next March. WWE has eight pay-per-views to go before WrestleMania 26 (and three of them are freebies since you've got the Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, and No Way Out in which HBK and The Game can mix it up in multi-man matches). That gives you five PPVs to build to and blow off their feud with Legacy and one another -- plenty of time to tell a compelling story and give every man involved a chance to shine. And if WWE starts planning for a Michaels vs. Triple H showdown on the Grandest Stage of Them All NOW? Fans will be more than thrilled to watch these two legends go at it one last time on March 28 of next year.
RAW Roster Getting Increasingly Top-Heavy WWE's Flagship Show Has Nowhere for Talent to Go But Down
The pending return of Shawn Michaels (as well as the recent criticism from Paul Heyman) seems like as good an opportunity as any to address the ever-growing concern that RAW will soon be even MORE dominated by top-level talent than it currently is. And that's saying something -- because the brand's main events for the past three years have pretty much consisted of a pretty standard reshuffling of the same five guys.
My 411 colleague Jeff Small did an outstanding job of covering in Tuesday's Small-For-All News Report) -- but in short?
As Small said (and as Yeats said before him), "This is no country for old men."
The professional wrestling landscape has always been dominated by established stars. But back in the territory days, these established stars worked territories unique from one another so that the industry didn't seem so crowded and stale when these veteran acts commanded top billing at countless shows all across the country:
Superstar Billy Graham and Bruno Sammartino worked the northeast. Dusty Rhodes packed houses in the American south. Terry Funk and The Von Erich family headlined in Texas. Jerry Lawler and his crew sold out the Memphis stadiums. And the Great Lakes had Verne Gagne, Nick Bockwinkle, and the rest of the Minnesota Wrecking Crew.
Once wrestling went NATIONAL, however -- these top-level stars were forced to compete for the very same airtime. Thankfully (for most of the 80s and 90s, at least), there were at least two (or three) major North American professional wrestling promotions in which these performers could ply their respective trade. And when they'd overstayed their welcome with one company, they could simply hop on over to the rival organization and rinse-and-repeat the cycle again in front of a brand new audience who were more than willing to plunk down their hard-earned cash to watch these same stars headline once more.
Hulk Hogan did it in the WWF before jumping to WCW, as did Randy Savage, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and countless others. Ric Flair made crazy money in WCW before hopping to the WWF and immediately finding himself in a title program ("Cactus Jack" did much the same -- though it took him a few years longer than many). And other stars like Lex Luger, Bret Hart, Rick Rude, and (yes, even) The Ultimate Warrior were pretty much bounty hunters by the end of the Monday Night Wars -- each of whom would cap out at the highest level of success available to them in any one organization before making the jump to its competitor.
And for the better part of two decades, that model worked to perfection.
Unfortunately for wrestling fans, the World Wrestling Federation gobbled up every major wrestling promotion by the time that WCW closed its doors in 2001, and once again ALL of the top-level talent were forced to squabble over the same television time in order to ply their trade on the biggest stage available.
Suddenly, former World Champions were reduced to curtain-jerking comedy acts (Booker T, Diamond Dallas Page). Previously unstoppable monsters were lost in the shuffle of meaningless midcard programs (Scott Steiner, Bill Goldberg). And certifiable headliners watched as some of the most dominant factions in wrestling history virtually disappeared (Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan).
But such is life, right?
The problem, however, is that in the eight years since WWE's buyout of WCW, no one has quite figured out what to do with this massive influx of top-level talent who just can't seem to fade off into the sunset. As a result, former world champions assigned to any show but WWE's flagship instantly view the move as a demotion or a sign that the company is "putting them out to pasture" -- and a good number of those "demoted" stars typically end up jumping ship to TNA (where they can continue to trade off of nostalgia as they dominate the Main Event Mafia).
This poses a serious problem for the future of the industry on all sides...
In TNA --
Veteran performers and recent WWE releases command virtually ALL of the promotion's television time. Virtually every second pay-per-view ends with TNA announcing a "shocking new free agent signing," and all homegrown momentum is lost whenever a new star is brought into the fold.
In WWE?
While Smackdown and ECW continue to breed new stars, neither show commands the same television exposure (or ratings, or revenue) that Monday Night RAW is able to garner on a weekly basis. That means that the big stars wanna' go where the big ratings (and the big money) are, and RAW continues to be clogged with the same faces we've been seeing for years.
John Cena, Randy Orton, Triple H, Batista, Shawn Michaels -- though each of these guys are among the best in the business (well okay, maybe not Batista), the bottom line is that they have a veritable stranglehold on RAW's main event picture, and aside from the occassional multi-man main-event mixup, nobody except the five of them will ever be getting their hands on the show's top prize.
Solution?
There's really no easy one, to tell you the truth. Cycling top stars between brands would help to alleviate SOME of the problem, but then you're really just bumping every one else on down the ladder in order to appease the drawing power (ego?) of your established talent. Jeff made a great point about transitioning certain performers to a backstage role from time to time -- but the simple fact of the matter is that most stars are in the business TO MAKE MONEY, not to make sure that the business can survive long after their in-ring days are through.
And backstage agents don't make NEARLY the same kind of money as onscreen talent.
Bottom line?
WWE has to do a much better job of giving their audiences a reason to root for (or against!) their top-level stars WITHOUT hinging so much of these performers' appeal on the fact that they happen to be challenging for the company's top prize. A feud like the Michaels vs. Triple H showdown (outlined above) is most definitely a step in the right direction -- but WWE (and its performers) will need to commit wholeheartedly to programs of this nature and more if they are ever going to ensure the long-term survival and success of the next generation of main event performers.
Otherwise --
One day all of the John Cenas, Undertakers, Triple H's and Rany Ortons of the world will be retired, and there won't be a strong enough crop of main-event talent to carry the torch and pick up the momentum where this last round of performers left off.
THE TAMPA ADVENTURE: DAY SEVEN The Week in Review
And With That, I'm Outta' Here
That'll do it for Mee this week. Thanks for reading (and for checking out my YouTube shenanigans). Can't wait to see the comments section explode with all manner of personal attacks. Yes, I'm a pale and scrawny bitch. Yes, I haven't had a full head of hair since I was 18. And yes, that is a Guinness. And a Jägerbomb. And an Irish Car Bomb. And a...
"Straightedge?" Ha. I drink like a fish. SWERVE, bitchez!
'Till next time, enjoy the weekend, live it up over these last few days of summer. And always stay positive.
1. No chance in hell anyone can honestly tell me that THE Brian Kendrick earns more on the Indy scene than he would in WWE
2. Miz has al lot waiting for him on Smackdown for it NOT to happen, so I expect to see him on Friday nights.
3. With a DX Tour planned for the Fall/Winter months, I do forsee a Triple H heel turn against his buddy around that time, leading to the big HHH/HBK match at WM26, with it possibly being built up as Triple H wanting to end his career once and for all; speculation being HBK taking a long leave of absence following WM26.
Posted By: JUSTINW (Guest) on August 06, 2009 at 11:25 PM
I've been thinking exactly the same thing as to DX/HBK-HHH feud through to WM26. I'd make one addition to your scenario though. A feud with the Hart Dynasty at Survivor Series. It'd be perfect for planting the seeds of the break-up of DX and would really elevate two talented young guys. I also think it would be cool for WM26 to be a Flair-type career threatening scenario, but to have the swerve that HBK actually wins it, but then says he is taking a long time off, and then only comes back for big time dream matches - ie if an opportunity ever opens up with The Rock.
Posted By: Guest#0363 (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 12:19 AM
good luck with the knee. just had to get my acl replaced after a tear, wasn't fun but what can ya do? great article.
Posted By: Guest#5978 (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 12:20 AM
@mikethemiz You better not think about coming back to ECW...it's my show now. Woo Woo...wait for it...WOO!4:15 PM Aug 5th from Tweetie
Posted By: Possibility on Ryder's Twitter (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 12:28 AM
I'd Love for wwe to go a different route with The Miz. One Other option is for him to declare himself as having no brand affiliation and to have him head up Superstars.
Taking on any opposition from any brand enables him to build himself as a more credible threat in the wwe. While its true that Superstars has low ratings and is watched by less people than the other shows, having the Miz be on a hot Streak and winning all his call-out challenges for a few months before moving to Smackdown or ECW could clear a decent upper-/midcard spot for him.
Posted By: Leon (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 01:01 AM
I think that it should be HBK turning on HHH. He could be annoyed about HH making him come back...or something. Okay, I just wanna see heel HBK one last time. Sue me.
Posted By: Crazy8 (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 01:05 AM
"Marty Elias - this seldom-seen WWE referee"
The dude has been reffing high profile John Cena matches since the beginning of 2008!!
Posted By: Guest#2484 (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 01:19 AM
heck w/hbk vs hhh at WM.. bring in American Dragon!!! Best in the World vs The Showstoppa. Wrestlemania 26.. anything less, will be a dissappointment
Posted By: sdmcc (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 01:44 AM
you know what i don't care that much about? The Tampa Adventure: Day Anything.
Posted By: Guest#0913 (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 03:51 AM
There can only be a small amount of perceived certifiable 'main event level' stars. Usually these 'stars' are feuding for the world title, and not doing so takes away the perception of the talent being a 'main eventer' in the eyes of common fans. If we took orton away from the title screen to freshen it up, what will he be doing in the meantime? most likely midcard feuds based on 'hate', 'revenge' or other abstract concepts that don't serve to further someone being a title threat. the logic being that the world title is the most prestigious prize and in theory everybody should be gunning for it, and by not fighting or trying to get into title contention, it shows that the wrestler either isn't good enough to take it from the champ or think they are above the title, both options hurt either the individual or the prestige value of the championship/champion. Booking certainly helps certain wrestlers keep their main event mystique, but only if the person doesn't show up every week all the time. Undertaker is fresh as a non-title main event attraction by having him appear sporadically instead of all the goddamn time, like triple h. after awhile of having taker on tv consistently, he'll have to go after the world title or else diminish his 'main event mystique' or fall into one of the two pitfalls listed above. Undertaker's sporadic appearances mimic having top talent rotate in the territory days, both keeping the title scene fresh, while maintaining a large roster of ready to go talent at a main event level. People went apeshit when Bruiser Brody was in town precisely because he wasn't in town all the time. If this system is emulated again, not only will it increase the shelf life of talent while maintaining their marketability, but also serve to create or at least give opportunity to create new stars.
Posted By: Shio (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 03:52 AM
Anyone else notice that Savio Vega was released just in time to be Shawn Michaels' surprise replacement in the tag match at Summerslam?
Posted By: Lenny Carlson (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 03:57 AM
I always enjoy your columns and I'm glad you added the vacation videos, it looked hella fun. But it occured to me watching the first one that this would lead into a bad 80's or 90's horror movie. A group of young white guys leaving their small town to go enjoy a nice fun-filled vacation in Florida, only to fall victim to a psychotic killer! The only question is: where will he strike? Will it be the mini golf course? The bar? Possibly the alligator show? Only time will tell! Tune into Nitro next week to find out! Lol I'm too fuckin tired...
Posted By: amusing comments (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 04:07 AM
Leon, didn't Stevie Richards take the "only on the b-brand" route with heat and call himself Stevie Night Heat? How did that do for him?
Oh, right. He's wrestling for the opposition now.
Posted By: Ray Church (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 05:09 AM
I'd love to see HHH v HBK at Mania, and give them 30 mins. HBK as the heel would be immense.
Posted By: Probes (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 06:27 AM
I'd Love for wwe to go a different route with The Miz. One Other option is for him to declare himself as having no brand affiliation and to have him head up Superstars.
Taking on any opposition from any brand enables him to build himself as a more credible threat in the wwe. While its true that Superstars has low ratings and is watched by less people than the other shows, having the Miz be on a hot Streak and winning all his call-out challenges for a few months before moving to Smackdown or ECW could clear a decent upper-/midcard spot for him.
Posted By: Leon (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 01:01 AM
NICE IDEA
Posted By: who cares (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 07:28 AM
It would make more sense to turn HBK heel for a DX re-fued because a) we've never seen heel HBK vs face HHH, but we've seem the inverse MANY times
and
b) he's a much better heel than HHH. Look at his work with the Undertaker - the guy got heat by DANCING for fuck's sake. He doesn't need a sledgehammer, he just needs a smirk and a microphone
It's quite funny actually, the way that the talent abandons HBK when he's wacky DX Shawn - he wrestles bad matches and his promos are painful to listen to.
This tendency to reduce the quality of everything you touch is what I call "The Triple H Effect."
Titles, tag team partners, heck entire brands rendered unwatchable just by adding one man with a big nose.
Posted By: Loki (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 08:13 AM
You're absolutely right, TNA shouldn't be pushing WWE rejects they should be pushing 'home grown' talent like M-M-Matt M-M-Morgan.
Posted By: Dumbass (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 08:42 AM
Actually - I'm expecting HBK to come back and turn on HHH (since last time I believe HHH was the heel who turned on HBK). At Summerslam, have HBK superkick HHH and then leave. The following Monday on Raw, he comes out to make the following speech.
In the months that I've been out, I;ve been able to think about a lot of things. One of the things that he thought about was what Chris Jericho said about wrestlers staying too long. Now while I didn't like what he was saying, and I didn't like how he was saying it, I think that he had a point.
Look at what the Undertaker and I did at Wrestlemania. We tore the house down. We gave everything we could. And you know what happened. Neither of us could wrestle for the next 4 months.
And while I'm sitting at home, I see HHH and Orton beating each other up week after week. All the while, there were great young wrestlers who didn't get a chance to shine because so much time was spent on showcasing the same guys every week. Cena, Orton, HHH or Batista. But then you switch it up a little and feed some of the young talent to them - burying guys like Miz, Rhodes and DiBiase.
So this leads me back to HHH. Buddy - you didn't call to check up on me, find out how's the rehab going. When did you finally call me? When you needed help in beating up some young guys? And why - to feed your ego, your need to be on top? Well guess what Hunter - your time at the top is over. While I can tear up any show, any time, I can't do it at every show. And neither can you.
I want to do what's right for the industry, what's right for the WWE and what's right for the future of wrestling. And buddy - if that means that I've got to take you out - then so be it. I know there's a lot of time to go before Wrestlemania 26 - but if I'm still walking, and you're still walking - here's a simple request. You and me, center of the ring - one man wins, and the other man leaves - forever.
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I hate doing this at work and not being able to see the entire comment to see if it makes sense - but you get the picture.
Posted By: BobbyC (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 09:18 AM
love the literary references and all but it's
"THAT is no country for old men"
...I'm just sayin'!
Posted By: lilboosie (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 09:48 AM
"1. No chance in hell anyone can honestly tell me that THE Brian Kendrick earns more on the Indy scene than he would in WWE"
I went to a ROH show maybe 5 years ago, they had just announced that tickets for the next "boston" show were available up front. We went up to buy tickets to extend our streak of front row seats.
Gabe was at the desk sorting out envelopes and selling tickets. He was putting money into an envelope marked Spanky. It looked like it had maybe 200 dollars in it. If ROH was doing 3 shows a week, that's barely 30,000 a year, and it could have been less or for the weekend.
Posted By: just-al (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Shio - absolutely on the money. They need far more enforced disappearances. Thinking about WWE right now though, an even bigger problem seems to be nobody has an purpose or motive.
Posted By: Guest#3782 (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Jeff Hardy to retire Sting? If not or that 90 day rule Vince imposes.
Posted By: BA (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 11:08 AM
"1. No chance in hell anyone can honestly tell me that THE Brian Kendrick earns more on the Indy scene than he would in WWE"
Well, let's see. Kendrick has enough name value to main event most indies he'd work for. If he can set up a steady circuit of work to keep himself busy that's a decent paycheck.
Now, based on salary info that was leaked (which could be suspect, but it's all we have to go on http://www.wrestlescoop.com/info/salaries.shtml) I expect Kendrick would have been making, at the most, $200,000 a year. Factor in his travel and accommodation expenses from being on the road all year, and that takes a significant chunk out.
So, if he's able to sell himself well and get consistent work, I think Kendrick could easily make, if not more, at least a comparable amount to what he made in the WWE. And he'll certainly be happier, as Meehan noted, so more power to him.
Posted By: Hawkeye (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 12:25 PM
It's funny, everyone hates HHH so they say he "needs a heel turn" but you know-- heel hbk (if they could get people to boo him) would be a LOT fresher. Also that rivalry has never played out with HHH as the face and HBK the heel. Sure, the inevitable HHH ending would be pretty much what you assume, but the build would be great w/Michaels laying HHH out week after week (since HHH will sell for Michaels)
Posted By: M:-X (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Anyone else notice that Savio Vega was released just in time to be Shawn Michaels' surprise replacement in the tag match at Summerslam?
Posted By: Lenny Carlson (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 03:57 AM
:)) 1998 all over again eh...
Posted By: Guest#7533 (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Hey sdmcc i think i speak for everyone when i say....Who? American what? wasnt that a martial arts movie from the 80's. Keep dreaming, the only way anyone from roh headlines a Wrestlemania is if they hold it in someones backyard devoid of any fans or pay per view audience...wrestlemania 30 comming to Billy thompson's house on elm street..Meet the roh "superstars" and happy the clown...save room for cake...
Posted By: old school fan (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 01:04 PM
Hey sdmcc i think i speak for everyone when i say....Who? American what? wasnt that a martial arts movie from the 80's. Keep dreaming, the only way anyone from roh headlines a Wrestlemania is if they hold it in someones backyard devoid of any fans or pay per view audience...wrestlemania 30 comming to Billy thompson's house on elm street..Meet the roh "superstars" and happy the clown...save room for cake...
Posted By: old school fan (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 01:04 PM
You definately don't speak for me. I would love to see American Dragon vs HBK. I've got two words for anyone who doubts Bryan Danielson's potential for success in WWE: Cattle Mutilation. That move would be over like crazy and makes him an ideal guys for them to bring in if they really want to do this all submission ppv. He has, after all, been training in Randy Couture's dojo.
It does not take appearing in a backyard for an ROHer to main event 'Mania. Randy Orton has appeared in ROH and he has headlined a Wrestlemania. CM Punk was an ROH guy and he is definately a future Wrestlemania headliner. So there.
Posted By: The Fax (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 04:55 PM
Cattle Mutilation is an average move. Orton was in roh but bores the crap out of me. CM PUNK is TEN times worse. I've yet to see any ROH action that's made me glad I didn't watch wwe or tna instead
Posted By: bored (Guest) on August 07, 2009 at 09:17 PM
"It does not take appearing in a backyard for an ROHer to main event 'Mania. Randy Orton has appeared in ROH and he has headlined a Wrestlemania. CM Punk was an ROH guy and he is definately a future Wrestlemania headliner. So there."
uhm. Come back with that argument when Randy Orton has actually participated with Ring of Honor, and when CM Punk actually headlines a Wrestlemania.
Posted By: Jeff (Guest) on August 08, 2009 at 01:39 AM
If they can't get american dragon and put on a seriously fresh teacher vs student storyline that could lead to the greatest WM match of all-times, then HBK should possibly face someone he hasn't faced before.. since he's on borrowed time, why have him continue his 15 yr love/hate relationship with HHH, when he could face cm punk, matt hardy, john morrison, rey mysterio (i think they faced once on the eddie tribute, but its be too fresh to pass), or swagger, or mvp.. have him face someone that could be considered a dream match in the future.. but by then, it'd be too late.. HBK is on borrowed time... hopefully, they will take advantage and have him face someone fresh/new so that down the road, they don't run into many "What If's" that they constantly run into regarding Hogan and Austin.
and as for HBK being the heel.. unless WM is held in Montreal.. then its not happening..
I'm still thinking Michaels/Danielson with the right storyline and 30 mins would make the greatest WM match of all time.
Posted By: sdmcc (Guest) on August 08, 2009 at 03:17 AM
uhm. Come back with that argument when Randy Orton has actually participated with Ring of Honor, and when CM Punk actually headlines a Wrestlemania.
Posted By: Jeff (Guest) on August 08, 2009 at 01:39 AM
Ummm...Randy Orton has participated in ROH. He was one of the Special K guys and he wrestled under the name Hypno. He was only there for Special K's first few appearances and I'm not sure if he was ever technically a legal participant in any of their matches, but still, he was there so he was an ROH guy.
And no, I'm not going to pull up this page in a year or two to leave a comment after Punk has headlined a Wrestlemania. That's why I made my statement in the future tense.
Here's something that will blow your mind though--Edge started out in the indies. Oh my God, I know right. Good wrestlers aren't made in a WWE factory. Right now CM Punk is using a gimmick that he honed in the indies and it's working. He's got everything it takes to get where Edge is and he's actually years ahead of the curve. I'll just predict right now that Punk vs Cena is going to headline Wrestlemania 27 and it's going to be awesome.
Posted By: The Fax (Guest) on August 08, 2009 at 03:40 AM
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