411 PPV Roundtable Preview: WWE Hell in a Cell 2009
Posted by Stephen Randle on 10.03.2009
This Sunday, the WWE and World Heavyweight championships will be decided inside the most intimidating structure WWE has to offer: Hell in a Cell. Inside, the 411 Staff has all their picks for the upcoming PPV!
Introduction:
This Sunday, the PPV formerly known as No Mercy, one of the 411 writers' favourite titles for use in puns, gains new life as the latest gimmick-based show from the geniuses at WWE, as they present WWE Hell in a Cell. Two title matches, plus a featured tag bout, will take place inside the massive cage that has been called "Satan's structure", a "demonic cage", and many other terms combining references to devils and boxes. In addition, four other titles will be on the line in high-profile bouts.
And with a PPV on the horizon, you know the 411 Staff would be lined up to get their picks and predictions out to the public, because we know that you just can't get your full PPV experience without our well-researched insight. Or maybe you just want to prove us wrong. Actually, we're good with whatever gets you to read.
Stephen Randle: I'm not sure why everyone seems to think it's inevitable that Kofi loses the belt here, just because it's another multi-man match. If you think about it, this is actually the smallest multi-man match in which Kingston has had to defend his title on PPV, as he's held onto it in a fatal four-way AND a six-pack challenge. Maybe his weakness is actually one-on-one.
Winner: Kofi Kingston
Mathew Sforcina: There's a difference between "appealing to families and children" and "insulting families and children".
Winner, and NEW WWE United States Champion: The Miz (Skull Crushing Finale on Swagger)
Robert S. Leighty Jr: This should be entertaining, and if given some time this could be a damn fine match. I think it is time to give the title to a heel, but which one? The Miz could probably use the rub of the title a little more, but the All American American carrying the United States Title seems to good to pass by.
Winner: New US Champion: Jack Swagger
Julian Bond: I definitely have to give the WWE play on their recent push with the U.S. Championship. Not only has Kofi had the belt for a good while now, he's been constantly defending it against a good bunch of contenders. Here I think that the Miz's strong push ever since near main-eventing with Cena a few months ago finally pays off here by becoming the new champ.
Winner and NEW United States Champion: The Miz
Ari Berenstein: Kofi is outnumbered two heels to one face, and they both seem to keep stealing his title. This time around, one of the is going to win it outright. His name is The Miz and he is awesome.
Winner: The Miz WINS the United States Championship
Andy Clark: So apparently Kofi is the king of the multiman match. He'd fit right in in TNA. At least Michael Cole tried to turn it into a gimmick on Superstars. I don't see Kofi's luck continuing, and while Swagger would do better with the title, The Miz is the one seemingly be groomed for it. Too bad he's lost almost all the momentum he had when he first came to Raw.
Winner and NEW United States Champion: The Miz
Michael Weyer: The triple threat stuff is interesting and all three guys are able to show some stuff in the ring. For the result, I'll go with the majority here and pick Miz to finally get a major singles push.
Stephen Randle: Morrison has had the upper hand to obviously for this entire short feud, plus Ziggler needs the win to remain a credible threat. I say we go for some sort of sneaky victory, possibly involving Maria, that allows Ziggler to pull one out.
Winner: Dolph Ziggler
Mathew Sforcina: You want to make gimmick PPVs, that's within your rights, hell, it's a decent experiment.
Winner, and STILL WWE Intercontinental Champion: John Morrison (Starship Pain)
Robert S. Leighty Jr: I think this match may depend on what they do with the World Title Match. I can see Morrison being groomed for a run with Punk, but obviously he doesn't need the IC strap if he is moving to Punk's level. I think there is time before that happens, so I think this may be drug out a little longer. Again, given time these two can deliver a high quality match.
Winner: John Morrison
Julian Bond: After months AND months of Ziggler being ever so close to winning the IC belt....I seriously think that his time would finally here. BUT after seeing Morrison on ECW this past week dropping the Miz's name like no tomorrow, I now think that Morrison (in his 1st PPV match in a good while if you think about it) will get a big win to temporarily shut Ziggler's mouth and then go on to the "Bragging Rights" PPV in a few weeks to face the Miz cause supposely it's "Raw vs. Smackdown" wrestlers for this card (i.e. U.S. Champ vs Intercontinental Champ) and the face-off between former partners Miz and Morrison is long overdue. Big Z will get his win one day sooner than later.
Winner and STILL Intercontinental Champion: John Morrison
Ari Berenstein: Dolph is a very strong candidate to win this one, as it has seemingly been in the cards for quite some time. However, I'm going to say that once again, Dolph is duffed in a title match. Morrison wins clean this time around, but if there's a future rematch he won't be so lucky.
Winner: John Morrison RETAINS the Intercontinental Championship
Andy Clark: Ziggler should be the IC Champ by now, but I'm not sure they'll have him go over in his first meeting with Morrison. It seems Ziggler is taking the roundabout way of winning the title, similar to MVP winning hte US strap from Chris Benoit. Mr. Ziggles should have the title by Survivor Series, but until then I think Morrison holds onto the gold.
Winner and STILL Intercontinental Champion: John Morrison
Michael Weyer: WWE did throw a twist on things with Morrison retaining last month. But the plan has been for Ziggler to get the belt for a while before Rey got suspended and I think it's time they pull the trigger at last on it. Should be good but Ziggler finally gets what's been coming to him for a while.
Stephen Randle: I like how our standards for WWE women's wrestling has fallen so far that the fact that Alicia Fox can do a decent axe kick is considered improving as a wrestler. I don't think anyone buys her as a threat.
Winner: Mickie James
Mathew Sforcina: It's limiting your options, sure, but it's also creating more PPV brands, that's good.
Winner, and STILL WWE Divas Champion: Mickie James (DDT)
Robert S. Leighty Jr: I'm not really all that thrilled about this match as Mickie has had some bad matches at times on RAW. If she's not on this may not be any good at all. No real idea of where they go, so I'll just go with the champ.
Winner: Mickie James
Julian Bond: Fox has definitely been looking better in the ring as of late. As remotely good as James? Not really even close. But this should make for a good bathroom break/excuse for dudes to holler at the screen time.
Winner and STILL WWE Divas Champion: Mickie James
Ari Berenstein: If we're lucky, no one will hurt themselves in this match. Actually, if we were really lucky, this match wouldn't be taking place on this Pay Per View. Fox is just not championship material at this point (oh those lofty standards) and James is still one of the more popular WWE Divas that can be the face of the division. She still has life in her title run.
Winner: Mickie James RETAINS the Divas Championship
Andy Clark: ECW gets screwed in favor of a Divas match? Sheesh. I understand wanting to push new faces in the Divas division but this match seems pretty random for a PPV. If Fox ever were to win the title I think it would be on Raw, not PPV.
Winner and STILL Divas Champion: Mickie James
Michael Weyer: Fox has been improving nicely but still don't see her as champ just yet since Mickie can still pull other Divas along in bouts.
Winner and still Divas Champion: Our favorite nutcase
Stephen Randle: As long as Chris Jericho holds these belts, the question will always be: would they rather have him on both brands, or the challengers? I don't see them changing hands anytime soon.
Winner: Jericho and Show
Mathew Sforcina: But see, the name, that's the problem.
Winners, and NEW WWE Unified Tag Team Champions : DAVE and REY (Spinebuster into 619 into Batista Bomb on Jericho)
Robert S. Leighty Jr: JeriShow has been great, and I think they may some more mileage left in the tag title reign. Keeping Batista in a tag title program will keep him out of the World Title scene (which is good for now), but I have a feeling he (instead of Morrison) may be programmed with Punk.
Winner: JeriShow
Julian Bond: I'm a wee bit torn here. I strongly predict that Jericho and Show are in the running for being long-term champions with having the belts until damn near the time of Wrestlemania (well…maybe not that long!) until the Edgester finally recovers and takes out Jericho. But with Batista just coming back on Smackdown, I don't see him losing cleanly here in a title bout. So I will cross my fingers and predict that Jericho/Show retains the titles by DQ to set-up a good ol' rematch between them and Rey/Batista.
Winner and STILL WWE Unified Tag Team Champions: Jericho/Show
Ari Berenstein: Batista has come in a bullied his way through Jericho and Big Show and now he even has his little buddy to help him out. Mysterio in this match adds to the overall quality, as his series with Jericho earlier in the year still stands out as a true highlight of '09. Look for them to revisit the magic of that feud, but I expect Jericho to be the winner this time around, especially with the help and big punch of Big Show.
Winner: Chris Jericho and Big Show RETAIN the WWE Unified Tag Team Championship
Andy Clark: I'm actually quite looking forward to this match. Jericho & Big Show have meshed well as a team, and Batista & Mysterio have always been a fun team. It still amazes me that, considering all the history and one time tag teams they often forget, that they remember the Batista/Rey relationship. Rey has been money all year long and coming off the suspension he'll likely have something to prove. This is the toughest match on the show to call.
Winner and STILL Unified Tag Team Champions: Chris Jericho & Big Show
Michael Weyer: A last moment feud but promising with all four guys able to work well in the ring together. We should get a pretty good match although I see Batista and Rey slower due to obvious reasons. But I don't see a title change just yet as they're no doubt saving Batista up for the main event.
Winners and still Unifed Tag Team Champions: JeriShow
DX vs The Legacy - Hell in a Cell
Stephen Randle: I will accept that DX has done their darndest to make Legacy into big, bad-ass threats, to the point that I wouldn't mind them winning this match. Hopefully Legacy actually goes somewhere after this, and doesn't just regress into Randy Orton's bitches.
Winner: DX
Mathew Sforcina: Calling a PPV 'Hell In A Cell' is not very smart, since you're telling your audience that they are too stupid to know what the PPV is with a normal name, and that's bad business.
Winners: DX (Sweet Chin Music into Pedigree on Cody on Roof of Cell)
Robert S. Leighty Jr: This should be some chaotic fun like the DX vs McMahons/Show Hell in a Cell match for a few years back (minus the Big Show's ass). They WWE really needs to drop the no blading for this one show, and give is something really special. I know every match doesn't need people bleeding all over the match, but Hell in a Cell matches sure do. Legacy has been booked strong in thsi feud, but most feud usually end with the faces going over in the end. DX can go over here and still not bury Legacy, which I think will happen.
Winner: DX
Julian Bond: I for one am hellua impressed with the push they've been giving Legacy recently. While I thought that by them being with Orton, they should've automatically be pushed up to a much higher level. But a few months ago they were simply lackeys that stood around for Orton's bidding instead of showing what they're made of in the ring. But at the last two PPVs, Dibiase and Rhodes have really stepped it up and are finally making a name for themselves against HBK and HHH. Usually in these nice "putting over young talent" feuds, the good guys tend to win the final battle, while the bad guys usually do something later on to "win the war". So I predict that DX gets revenge and takes it here.
Winner: DX
Ari Berenstein: Amazingly, WWE has done just about everything right in building up this match. It actually appears that D-X is in jeopardy and that Legacy has them back on their heels. How about that? There is heat to this match and I actually believe it has a real shot of being the best out of the three Cell matches that will take place on this show. Given HBK and HHH have taken their share of big bumps in this match over the years, I expect Rhodes or DiBiase to make their mark with some spectacular fall or table crash. D-Generation X wins the bout in a very close contest.
Winner: D-Generation X
Andy Clark: I actually have pretty high hopes for this match coming off of there great match last month. With Legacy scoring the win last time I highly doubt we see DX lose here, the question will be if Legacy can look good in defeat.
Winners: DX
Michael Weyer: WWE threw everyone for a loop last month by having DX actually putting Legacy over big time. That's actually helps things out here with DX facing tougher odds. But since this is a match HHH and HBK are experts at, they should be able to get it done here in a wild brawl.
Stephen Randle: I can't help but feel that they gave Cena the title for the same reason they gave it to Batista a few months back: because he hasn't won a title match in a while and they don't want him looking like a choker. That said, I can't help but feel that WWE is planning to do Orton-HHH part seventy-three for WrestleMania, and if DX is done with Legacy, the build could start as soon as the next PPV.
Winner: Randy Orton
Mathew Sforcina: Sure, you can argue that they used to do this with the Rumble and SurSer, but those are good names WITHOUT the attached gimmick match, while HITC is a crappy name for a show.
Winner, and STILL WWE Champion: John Cena (STF with steel chair around throat)
Robert S. Leighty Jr: No reason to take the title off Cena so soon. I'm not sure who his next challenger will be, but this match here should finally end the long running Cena/Orton feud. Again, this is a match that needs someone bleeding (preferably Cena as he has pulled out some good blade jobs in the past), but in the end Cena overcomes all odds again.
Winner: John Cena
Julian Bond: I said it before and I'll say it again. Love Cena. Love Orton. They have good to great matches with each other every other time out…but the déjà vu-ness of their fights have gots to stop. If the guys didn't fight each other in a significant feud like on and off like 4-5 times in the last 3 years I would be fine. But they have to give Orton, Cena, and even HHH a nice loooooooong break from one another. This match here will no doubt be pretty freaking cool, but this HAS TO BE IT….please. Pretty pretty please.
Winner and STILL WWE Champion: John Cena
Ari Berenstein: I honestly don't know how they can top the I Quit match from Breaking Point, or how they can better the big spotlight bump Orton took on Raw (Cena F-U'ed him on top of the Cell). This one has a big chance of a title switch, which is mind boggling because they JUST switched the belt last month and I hate this pattern of short title reigns in WWE during this year. Cena took the advantage on Raw, plus Orton was pinned clean by Undertaker on Smackdown, so where else can you go from here but Orton getting some retribution and winning the match?
Winner: Randy Orton WINS the WWE Championship
Andy Clark: It's kind of appropriate that Cena and Orton are the first men to compete in a Hell in a Cell Match without the HIAC legends (Taker, Triple H, and Foley), even if Cena and Edge should have had that distinction first. I wasn't as enthralled with their I Quit Match as some people but I have faith in these two to have a kickass match. Some of the juice is out of this considering Cena has already won the title, but considering how much Orton has been buried lately we very may well see him win the title back. I'll bet against it though.
Winner and STILL WWE Champion: John Cena
Michael Weyer: This I'm looking forward too. For all the flack they're given by the IWC, put these guys in a major brawl match and they bring their A game. We already know they work great together so adding the Cell should make it even better. I don't see a title change yet but do hope getting the win here can hold over those doubters for Cena once more.
Stephen Randle: You know, it occurred to me, as Shawn Michaels talked about winning the first Hell in a Cell over the Undertaker, just exactly how he won that match. Then I thought about who was once again on the same brand as the Undertaker, and receiving a minor push, including taking out the Great Khali a couple weeks ago. And then I thought about what I would do if I were an evil billionaire who was obsessed with reliving the part, starting with the Montreal Screwjob. And suddenly, the answer was clear.
Winner: CM Punk
Mathew Sforcina: There, you see, I'm fair and balanced.
Winner, and STILL World Heavyweight Champion: CM Punk (27 GTS')
Robert S. Leighty Jr: I have the faces winning the other 2 cell matches, so I got to think a heel wins one of them. I tnink Cena/Orton closes the show, so Punk winning here won't send the crowd home pissed. Taker is a tough bastard and will gut out a decent match here, but I look for this to be the shorter of the 3 cell matches. Somehow, someway, Punk walks out with the title. Perhaps it is time for Taker/Kane: Part 5000, and perhaps Punk leaves this match the winner much like Shawn did 12 years ago (damn, it's been that long since the first Hell in a Cell).
Winner: CM Punk
Julian Bond: Man…I sure hope that the reports of Undertaker being pretty beat-up aren't super-true and that the Phenom will get all old-school American Bad-Ass Psycho on Punk here. Match should be awesome and I pray that it isn't short like last month's twist of a main-event. Punk is just getting started on being the ultimate asshole heel champ, so I don't think that he will be going over here. Me thinks that Batista may be next up to bat to take on Punk after Taker.
Winner and STILL World Heavyweight Champion: CM Punk
Ari Berenstein: Its the end of the road for CM Punk as champion in this match...unless WWE does something completely crazy by deciding to firmly and concretely put over a (relatively) young new talent and its current top heel on Smackdown. Its clear that Taker won't be tapping (if he was he'd have done it last month in that stipulation match) and the Gogoplata / Hell's Gate being legal now gives you a clear and reasonable finish--Take slaps that sucker on and Punk taps. Could Punk win via pinfall? Crazier things have...well, no, they probably haven't happened.
Winner: The Undertaker WINS the World Heavyweight Championship
Andy Clark: I'd like to see Punk get a Brock Lesnar-like Hell in a Cell victory, especially since the face lineup works pretty well with a heel champion, but I just can't see Punk pulling this one out. Maybe he cuts a deal with Jeri-Show or the Hart Dynasty to have his back in the match? Maybe some interpromotional help from Legacy to set up Bragging Rights? Wishful thinking likely. It should be interesting seeing the Deadman with the title again though.
Winner and NEW World Heavyweight Champion: Undertaker
Michael Weyer: I know many are saying Undertaker since it's his match and all and it is tempting to go with the flow. However, it's still early in the feud for a title change and Punk is still great as the champ so I don't think it's happening just yet. What should happen is UT putting Punk over with a major battle and hopefully a cleaner finish.
Winner and still World Champion: CM PUNK, BABY!
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People think Orton is going to win? Sweet jesus that stuff must be potent.... In case you haven't noticed, his opponent is John Cena. You know, can't be damaged, white guy about 6'1 who can't be seen by anyone apparently.
One way to keep Batista out of the World Title picture - The old "turn on partner" thingy later down the track, feud starts at (Whatever the PPV before the Rumble is) then eliminate each other at the Rumble setting up a Wrestlemania match between the two. Kill two birds with one stone - No Main Event for Batista, he turns heel in what seems like forever (isn't that what we want?)
Posted By: Squeak (Guest) on October 02, 2009 at 10:48 PM
you guys have it all wrong. punk's ROH buddies danielson and mcguiness are going to attack undertaker disguised as camera men.
Posted By: Phil (Guest) on October 02, 2009 at 11:23 PM
You honestly think Taker's gonna put over Punk. Taker hasn't put over a younger guy since his Hell in a Cell match w/ Lesnar, which was 7 freakin' years ago. I want Punk to win, but I don't think that there's any chance.
Posted By: FTaker (Guest) on October 02, 2009 at 11:42 PM
I think people believe Orton has a chance to win because hope springs eternal. They have been hyping this match with a video package in which Cena really talks up the fact that this is Orton's last chance to win the title (which doesn't make sense since he just lost it 3 weeks ago but whatever.)
Orton was also buried beyond belief this week. I'd have Cena as 100% lock to win this match if they wouldn't have done the FU on the cell this week. It could have easily been an RKO to make Cena look vulnerable. Cena probably will win but it's nice to have hope.
Besides, who else can Cena feud with as champ? Are they suddenly going to push Swagger?
I'm also amazed that anyone loved the Breaking Point match. It was just 15 minutes of Orton beating the heck out of Cena. Cena gets a couple of moves in and wins the title. Maybe that's it. The Cena match when Cena barely did anything was the Cena match that was considered good. That's telling.
Finally, what have we come to where Legacy getting a 2-on-1 submission involving the ring post to BARELY beat DX counts as DX putting someone over? It took an act of God for Legacy to win.
Get real people. DX will crush Legacy inside the cell and the world will be back to it's normal orbit with DX jobbing out anyone and everyone they can get their hands on.
Oh noes! Legacy got in a couple of beatdowns on DX! DX must be putting them over!
Puh-lease. Raise your standards a tad bit.
Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 12:07 AM
Punk wins when Big Show comes out and punches the Undertaker and costs him the match. That will lead Jerishow vs The Brothers of Destruction on the next PPV. You heard it here first.
Posted By: iomis (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 12:15 AM
"No Main Event for Batista, he turns heel in what seems like forever (isn't that what we want?) "
No
We want Botchista to retire forever
Posted By: Guest#4696 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Kane turns face then huh? JeriShow vs Brothers of Destruction? Where do people get these ideas? Half of these comments are from people who don't watch the product, and the other half are just to type something contrpversial. Wasn't it a few weeks ago there was a roundtable or a prediction column for TNA's PPV, and one write said that Angelina and Velvet were a recent 'thrown together tag team'.....?
Posted By: JUSTINW (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 02:03 AM
Miz is winning the US Title then will face Morrison at Bragging Rights in a champ vs champ match which morrison will win and then miz will interfere later on smackdown costing morrison the ic title to miz
Posted By: Guest#9990 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 02:09 AM
After watching them leave Orton laying in the ring again on Smackdown, I don't see Cena as a solid lock to win his match. In fact, I'm probably crazy, but I have a feeling Orton will be winning this one.
For the record, I have no problem with Cena as champ if it's a choice between that and the weak looking Orton of this year.
I'm thinking Undertaker will win, but I'd rather see Punk keep the belt for a while. Only way Punk wins is with help. Could his ROH buddies show up and form a new stable?
Also, if Undertaker does win, will we be seeing Taker-Batista for the title again in the future, and is that needed now?
DX will win, and I agree with the poster about the DX loss last time. HBK looked like superman until losing at the very end, but it was still a win for Legacy.
After all the Mr. Ziggles crap talk by Morrison, I'd like to see some revenge, but it turns out it happened on Smackdown. Morrison will win.
Kofi has been a good champion. I think it's time to let The Miz have a run at the belt. I can't believe I'm saying this, but The Miz could be big in the company if they gave him a chance to shine. You just want to punch him in the face. Good quality in a heel.
Y2J/Show will win. It's not time for them to lose yet, and I'm kinda hoping when they do lose they "de-unify" the belts.
Mickie James wins, and I try to actually give a damn. Nothing wrong with her, but the WWE Divas situation is just boring in my opinion.
That's the way I see it at the moment anyway. I didn't have high hopes for this one at first, but it could be good. Just hoping for a good and safe show for all the wrestlers.
Posted By: Guy Incognito (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 04:09 AM
We want Botchista to retire forever
Posted By: Guest#4696 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Who's "we", kid? Speak for yourself, not for others.
Posted By: Bimmy (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 05:25 AM
You watch taker is going to win by hell's gate then CM Punk can bitch that he lost to a move that was supposed to be banned which sets up Bragging Rights rematch
Posted By: Randy (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 06:35 AM
"I like how our standards for WWE women's wrestling has fallen so far that the fact that Alicia Fox can do a decent axe kick is considered improving as a wrestler."
You are a cunt.
Does she do OMG SPOTZ~!!!? No. She bumps better than most of the male roster.
Posted By: Guest#1170 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 10:19 AM
I'm going to make an opinion here, heck, maybe it might spark a good conversation.
The opinion is about Legacy. After looking at them from the time they came in, to last week. One thing come to mind, "groupthink".
For anyone who might not know, Groupthink is a Pshycological term designated to a team of people that spends so much time together, that everyone in the group exhibits strong tendancies of the leader (Almost to the point of becoming a facimile of the leader).
I think this is troubling for when Legacy actually DOES break apart, and I might feel like there is a cause for concern here.
The reason why factions worked before is that you had a group of people who united by a common interest, but they were able to exhibit thier own personallities (Old DX, NWO, Hart Foundation). None of them ended up becoming a facimile of the leader (creating a Groupthink scenario).
But with Legacy, you can sense that DiBiase and Rhodes are having tendancies AWFULLY close to Orton here. From mannerisims to now looks, it's almost like there are 3 Ortons instead of 1. And this is where I think that the problem will be for DiBiase and Rhodes in the future.
I feel like as opposed to letting these guys exhibit their own personallities, or given the basic premise of being Orton-like and telling them to mould it anyway they seem fit. It's more like they said, "I want you guys to be just like Orton".
Now, I'm not talking about the INITAL break-up of Legacy, because there will probably be automatic heat, but when that wears off, these guys MIGHT be handicapped due to the fact that they spend so long playing this gimmick (and developing the same, brutally plodding, almost lethargic, Orton stlye of wrestling) that it may be a little more difficult to break them away enough to have them become newer stars for the WWE.
Does anyone have any opinions on this besides me?
Posted By: PJL (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 10:42 AM
I wouldn't be surprised at all if we were treated to Michaels doing a 0.9 on the Muta scale.
Posted By: woody (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 11:07 AM
You honestly think Taker's gonna put over Punk. Taker hasn't put over a younger guy since his Hell in a Cell match w/ Lesnar, which was 7 freakin' years ago. I want Punk to win, but I don't think that there's any chance.
Posted By: FTaker (Guest) on October 02, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Oh yeah than who put over Edge, Randy, Mr Keneddy, Batista, Vladimir Kozlov. Putting over doesn't neccessarily mean letting the other guy beat if the other guys gets close to beating someone of taker's status than they are automatically elevated to a higher level BTW who won the first two matches between taker and punk was it taker no it was punk so atleast try to pass a sensible comment dumb idiot.
Posted By: Guest#1992 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 11:15 AM
The DX-Legacy match. Shawn turns heel on HHH. Remember Shawn tapped out, Shawn has been getting his ass kicked instead of HHH, besides it is time for them to feud again.
Posted By: rich (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 12:44 PM
DX vs Legacy Prediction
Cody takes huge bump early in the match and has to be carted out of the arena. Ted fights DX on his own and looks strong, but ultimately loses.
On Raw, Cody blames Ted for the loss and the team splits. Then, Ted turns face and his movie gets released.
Posted By: Guest#3477 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 01:30 PM
"I'm also amazed that anyone loved the Breaking Point match. It was just 15 minutes of Orton beating the heck out of Cena. Cena gets a couple of moves in and wins the title. Maybe that's it. The Cena match when Cena barely did anything was the Cena match that was considered good. That's telling."
The match at least told a story of how Orton couldn't get Cena to say "I quit", yet Orton said "I quit" the minute he was in jeopardy, it was not only a good story but a good character study on both Cena and Orton.
Posted By: devious (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 01:48 PM
You honestly think Taker's gonna put over Punk. Taker hasn't put over a younger guy since his Hell in a Cell match w/ Lesnar, which was 7 freakin' years ago. I want Punk to win, but I don't think that there's any chance.
Posted By: FTaker (Guest) on October 02, 2009 at 11:42 PM
He put over the Great Khali and Koslov. They may not be the best talents, but he still put them over.
Posted By: Bunkhouse Buck (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 01:49 PM
Lovin' the Sforcina rant!!
Posted By: jayzhoughton (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 02:03 PM
Interesting thought about Kane costing Undertaker the belt again. It would be 1997 all over again! Even though it's been done to death, I do always REALLY enjoy it when Undertaker and Kane feud. Suspend your disbelief and just sit back and enjoy, it's always good fun!
Posted By: Parxy (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 02:34 PM
you guys have it all wrong. punk's ROH buddies danielson and mcguiness are going to attack undertaker disguised as camera men.
Posted By: Phil (Guest) on October 02, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Why would the Undertaker be disguised as a camera man? Use logic.
Posted By: Swole (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 03:21 PM
Punk needs to win. He's like the one thing that has been allowed to grow and develop on its own. Almost a flashback to when the WWE used to let guys add a lot of themselves into their TV personalities, and surprise surprise it works.
Posted By: Frank (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 03:23 PM
"Finally, what have we come to where Legacy getting a 2-on-1 submission involving the ring post to BARELY beat DX counts as DX putting someone over? It took an act of God for Legacy to win."
>Implying that Legacy didn't beat DX clean.
Posted By: Anon (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 04:14 PM
Swagger
Morrison
Mickie
JeriShow
DX
Cena
CM Punk
Posted By: Ojj (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 04:50 PM
We want Botchista to retire forever
Posted By: Guest#4696 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Who's "we", kid? Speak for yourself, not for others.
Posted By: Bimmy (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 05:25 AM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's not alone in that thought.
Posted By: Reality (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 05:14 PM
Hatin' the Sfornica rant. Oh, you don't like the idea of altering the PPV names... wow, that sure is a unique perspective you've offered; haven't read that in every single column on this site for the past few months...
(Love Ask... but the whole novelty of diverting from the concept always makes you look like a douche on here.)
Alica Fox
JoMo
Jerishow
Miz
Legacy
Cena thanks to Legacy, heralding the end of the stable.
Posted By: Chungles (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 06:30 PM
The match at least told a story of how Orton couldn't get Cena to say "I quit", yet Orton said "I quit" the minute he was in jeopardy, it was not only a good story but a good character study on both Cena and Orton.
Posted By: devious (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 01:48 PM
What story did it tell? The story that Cena doesn't quit? Hello. We've had that same story told to us at every PPV for the last five years. Do you not understand it yet?
The bottom line is that - like I said - it was basically 15 minutes of a guy sitting on his ass handcuffed and getting the crap kicked out of him. I'm not sure how that could possibly be entertaining to anyone. I don't care if it's Cena or any wrestler. Seeing a match that completely one-sided until a couple of moves at the end just isn't very appealing.
What's the rest of that story again? Orton is a coward who quits at the first sign of trouble? Again, that's a story that we've been told time and again for years. Neither guy broke any new ground at Breaking Point.
I've got a few more exciting, innovative stories for you. Let me tell you about how water is wet, the sky is blue and Jeff Hardy enjoys drugs.
Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 07:03 PM
We want Botchista to retire forever
Posted By: Guest#4696 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Who's "we", kid? Speak for yourself, not for others.
Posted By: Bimmy (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 05:25 AM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's not alone in that thought.
Posted By: Reality (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 05:14 PM
Agreed.
Posted By: ZZZ (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 07:32 PM
The match at least told a story of how Orton couldn't get Cena to say "I quit", yet Orton said "I quit" the minute he was in jeopardy, it was not only a good story but a good character study on both Cena and Orton.
Posted By: devious (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 01:48 PM
What story did it tell? The story that Cena doesn't quit? Hello. We've had that same story told to us at every PPV for the last five years. Do you not understand it yet?
The bottom line is that - like I said - it was basically 15 minutes of a guy sitting on his ass handcuffed and getting the crap kicked out of him. I'm not sure how that could possibly be entertaining to anyone. I don't care if it's Cena or any wrestler. Seeing a match that completely one-sided until a couple of moves at the end just isn't very appealing.
What's the rest of that story again? Orton is a coward who quits at the first sign of trouble? Again, that's a story that we've been told time and again for years. Neither guy broke any new ground at Breaking Point.
I've got a few more exciting, innovative stories for you. Let me tell you about how water is wet, the sky is blue and Jeff Hardy enjoys drugs.
Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 07:03 PM
You know what else isn't breaking new ground? Ron Mexico making good points in an unnecessarily dickish manner.
*swish*
Posted By: That Guy (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 07:41 PM
The Miz
Ziggler
Mickie
Batista & Mysterio
Legacy
Cena
Taker
after this ppv start fresh
Cena - feud him with some1 new like MVP; turn MVP heel. Other options Swagger, Chris Masters.
DX - feud with each other; HHH realizes HBK is the weak link.
Legacy - Have them get punked by Orton to the point where Dibase has enough and turns face. Dibase vs Orton
Batista & Mysterio - feud with Hart Dynasty, World's greatest tag team-reunion, Cryme Tyme as heels (get the tag division back up), even Kozlov and Ezekiel Jackson, Big Show & Kane after Show ditches Jericho for being too small
Taker - feud with Jericho for @orld title
Punk - feud with Morrison for number 1 contender for world title. u could have morrison vs jericho, morrison vs taker and taker as heel
Posted By: Guest#8135 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 07:45 PM
you guys have it all wrong. punk's ROH buddies danielson and mcguiness are going to attack undertaker disguised as camera men.
Posted By: Phil (Guest) on October 02, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Why would the Undertaker be disguised as a camera man? Use logic.
Posted By: Swole (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 03:21 PM
I knew someone was going to do that. I'll rephrase it then: Punk's ROH buddies
mcGuinness and Danielson, dressed as camera men, will attack undertaker.
Posted By: Phil (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 07:47 PM
The match at least told a story of how Orton couldn't get Cena to say "I quit", yet Orton said "I quit" the minute he was in jeopardy, it was not only a good story but a good character study on both Cena and Orton.
Posted By: devious (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 01:48 PM
What story did it tell? The story that Cena doesn't quit? Hello. We've had that same story told to us at every PPV for the last five years. Do you not understand it yet?
I've got a few more exciting, innovative stories for you. Let me tell you about how water is wet, the sky is blue and Jeff Hardy enjoys drugs.
Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 07:03 PM
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Guest#6657 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 07:51 PM
I highly doubt taker will put over punk seeing as the last time he put over a youngster in Brock Lesnar, lesnar betrayed the company and made taker's rub for naught. unfortunately punk taps like a bitch and is sent packing to the mid-card while a barely mobile taker and an injury prone batista main event another wrestlemania on the SD side while some form of rehash between orton/cena/hhh is the main event of raw.
Posted By: Shio (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 08:39 PM
Miz is winning the US Title then will face Morrison at Bragging Rights in a champ vs champ match which morrison will win and then miz will interfere later on smackdown costing morrison the ic title to miz
Posted By: Guest#9990 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 02:09 AM
Okay......What?
Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 10:29 PM
You know what else isn't breaking new ground? Ron Mexico making good points in an unnecessarily dickish manner.
*swish*
Posted By: That Guy (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 07:41 PM
What can I say, kid? I play to my strengths.
Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Miz is winning the US Title then will face Morrison at Bragging Rights in a champ vs champ match which morrison will win and then miz will interfere later on smackdown costing morrison the ic title to miz
Posted By: Guest#9990 (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 02:09 AM
Okay......What?
Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest) on October 03, 2009 at 10:29 PM
I think hes predicting that the Miz will win the U.S. Title and then engage in a feud setting up a champ vs champ match with Morrison at Bragging Rights.Seeing that Morrison may win that much and the feud will continue until their on opposing teams at Survivor Series, Miz will eventually cost Morrison the IC Title on Smackdown.
Posted By: Reality Check (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 01:55 AM
"What story did it tell? The story that Cena doesn't quit? Hello. We've had that same story told to us at every PPV for the last five years. Do you not understand it yet?
The bottom line is that - like I said - it was basically 15 minutes of a guy sitting on his ass handcuffed and getting the crap kicked out of him. I'm not sure how that could possibly be entertaining to anyone. I don't care if it's Cena or any wrestler. Seeing a match that completely one-sided until a couple of moves at the end just isn't very appealing.
What's the rest of that story again? Orton is a coward who quits at the first sign of trouble? Again, that's a story that we've been told time and again for years. Neither guy broke any new ground at Breaking Point."
Got news for you mr. "my strengths are making points in a dickish manner, so my attitudes are just as one note & homogenized as the wrestling company I criticize".
Nobody broke any new ground at breaking point. But considering the other matches that night, that match at least had a story that stood out & didn't end with wrestlers wrestle match then one of them hits his finisher wins, blah blah blah same homogenized WWE match were used to.
Posted By: devious (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 02:35 AM
great reading. I think most of the face wrestlers will win this time around. I go for a clean sweep according to my resources
Posted By: deanchan (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 02:22 PM
undertaker is definatly going to win now that Hell's Gate is un-banned
Posted By: UndertakerRules!! (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 03:28 PM
So am I the only one predicting a Batista turn on Rey?
Posted By: Chungles (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 03:42 PM
Matthew really would be a blast to hang out with....at a funeral....Jesus, dude, lighten up
Posted By: REALITY (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 05:03 PM
Swagger
Morrison
Mickie
Jericho/Show
DX
Cena
Punk
That being said, I cannot wait for somebody, ANYBODY, to take that damn belt off of Mickie. Some of you still want to act like she's carrying the women's division on her back. That's only because WWE keeps giving her these useless title reigns for some reason. Her matches suck, the crowds don't care about them, she's a shitty champion, and whatever amount of "hotness" she had is long gone. She looks very out of shape nowadays, and her horse face is starting to stand out more and more. Give the belt to somebody that is actually hot. That way, I won't mind so much when they have DUD matches every single week, like Mickie has for the past year and a half.
Posted By: Guest#5665 (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 06:03 PM
Yo, Yo, it's that time and all is well, here is my thoughts on Hell In a Cell.
Miz, Swagger, Kofi these guys won't be a headline-a, Swagger & Miz pin Kofi, it will be like Y2J and Chyna. Tired of seeing Kofi fight with the title in a different way, good thing I will see all these guys next year at TNA.
Fox & James should be a splendor, James will win, while people are at the popcorn vendor. See WWE women's divas are nothing to jump up and down about, watch TNA, they got the real knockouts.
Morrison and Ziggler should be a hoot, Morrison to win cause Ziggles can't do a shoot...Everyone knows Morrison's the stud, Ziggler nothing more then a Spirit Squad dud.
The Tag Titles on the line, this should be in cage, look for Jerishow to lose to team Roid Rage...Nah, I play Dave, don't you trip, here is a better the name for your team...The Gimp and the Shrimp.
DX vs. Legacy, man we haven't seen this before. Look for DX to win, because HHH needs to score. I can see another rematch, man what a pain....next match will be an argument, which one uses the most Rogaine.
Ahhh, my match, I can hear you fans starting to boo. Well get ready to continue it, when I slap Orton with the STFU. See the deal was made with Vince and it is clear, I not going to push anybody, and be the champ for another year.
Last but not least, it's Punk and Taker for the strap. Punk wins, because Taker's hip is crap. The big surprise is not with the in ring action, look for Danielson and McGuinness to show up to form a faction.
Yo, just got wind over the wire, Vince added to Hell in A Cell---R-Truth vs. Drew McIntyre? Who the hell are these two and what do they add the show? McIntyre wins, WWE should have booked another match between Hornswaggle and Chavo.
Those are my picks, need of story, save your money and spend it on Bound for Glory. So hate me writer and fans, let me feel your strife, I going to win all the time.....word life.
Posted By: The Real Cean (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 07:03 PM
I will NEVER buy CM Punk beating the Undertaker in anything remotely close to a clean match. I would accept Rey Mysterio beating Big Show clean before I would buy Punk over UT.
Posted By: Guest#3472 (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 07:18 PM
Punk wins with the Debut of Festus the bodyguard! BAWHAHAHA~
Posted By: Guest (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 07:24 PM
could it be shawn interfers in the undertaker match to set up a match for the bragging rights ppv
Posted By: me (Guest) on October 04, 2009 at 08:42 PM
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