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The Contentious Ten 11.02.09: The Top Ten Most Important WWE Title Changes
Posted by John Peters on 11.02.2009



I was going to start doing Survivor Series lists this week, but the results of Bragging Rights pushed me in another direction. John Cena's WWE Championship victory marked the tenth WWE Title Change within the span of one year (November to November), that's bad, but when you factor in the ten World Heavyweight Title changes, it becomes pretty clear that the decision makers at WWE are swapping their world titles around with little regard for how that makes the titles look too easy to win. For comparisons sake the ECW Title has only changed hands four times in the last year, the Intercontinental Title has changed hands seven times, and the United States Title has changed hands only three times. The point is, that while the two world tiles are clearly more important than the secondary titles, the bookers have made it so that world title changes are not special occasions anymore.

This is not the first time that a WWE world title has been tossed around like a hot potato, in 1999 (from January 4th 1999 to January 3rd 2000) the WWF Title changed hands thirteen times; the most WWF Title changes within the span of a year. When you have two world tiles that are being booked in such a cavalier fashion it results in inflation in world title changes, meaning that along with a greater number of world title changes the changes have also lost their significance. You see, I just don't care that John Cena won the WWE Title (it's his fourth world title within a year) because, given the current rate of title changes, he'll probably lose it within a month or two. With this in mind I've decided to look at what I would consider to be The Top Ten Most Important WWE Title Changes. I'm not doing World Heavyweight Title Changes on this list because, in my opinion there haven't really been any truly significant, promotion changing, World Heavyweight Title changes since the WCW Title became the WWE's World Heavyweight Title. Which by the way, as the WWE's History of the World Heavyweight Title DVD seems to indicate, is now how they look it. I guess the argument I put forward a few weeks ago holds water after all.






The Top Ten Most Important WWE Title Changes



Honorable Mentions


Since there have been nearly one-hundred WWE Title changes since 1963, and a lot of them have been pretty important, I'm going to go a little crazy on the honorable mentions, which are listed in chronologic order.

Pedro Morales defeats Ivan Koloff, February 8, 1971: Anytime a wrestler kicks off a three year title reign it's pretty important. This didn't make the list because Morales never escaped the shadow of Bruno Sammartino.

Bruno Sammartino defeats Stan Stasiak, December 1, 1973: Bruno's second title reign officially reestablished him as the WWWF's top dog (even though he never really stopped being it). This reign wasn't as successful as his first, this one ONLY lasted THREE YEARS!

Billy Graham defeats Bruno Sammartino, April 30, 1977: Like the title of his DVD says, Graham was twenty years too soon. His colorful character was a tremendous inspiration to countless other wrestlers, and this title reign helped him showcase it. It doesn't make my list because Graham would have been influential regardless.

Randy Savage defeats Ted DiBiase, March 27, 1988: Savage became the first man in over five years other than Hulk Hogan to officially hold the WWF Title longer than a few minutes. It's not on the list because despite not holding the title Hogan was still the WWF's biggest star.

Yokozuna defeats Hulk Hogan, June 13, 1993: The fact that Yokozuna practically squashed Hogan and sent him packing out of the WWF was certainly an important result of this title change. The fact that Yokozuna enjoyed the longest heel title reign since Billy Graham is pretty important too. However, it just didn't seem important enough to make the list.

Diesel defeats Bob Backlund, November 26, 1994: The Diesel era began in practically the blink of an eye when Diesel beat Backlund in only eight seconds, and his reign was the focal point of the WWF for a year. It didn't make the list because the year was one of the shittiest in the promotion's history (which in and of itself is pretty important too).

Shawn Michaels defeats Bret Hart, March 30, 1996: It was a tremendous changing of the guard moment, but the two would have a far more significant match a year-and-a-half later.

Sid defeats Shawn Michaels, November 17, 1996: The rabid MSG crowd cheered the "Sycho" one on, even as he sent Jose Lothario into cardiac arrest by hitting him with a television camera. I would argue that this match marked the unofficial beginning of the Attitude Era.

Chris Jericho defeats Steve Austin, December 9, 2001: Jericho became the first Undisputed Champion in over fifty years. That's as important as it gets. But, it doesn't make the list because Jericho's reign was anything but game-changing.

Brock Lesnar defeats the Rock, August 25, 2002: The "Next Big Thing" arrived. He may have made the list if he didn't depart less than two years later.

John Cena defeats John Bradshaw Layfield, April 3, 2005: Cena's victory ushered in the modern period in WWE. While important, it remains to be seen how significant this era will be.


X



Mankind defeats The Rock
December 29, 1998



Mick Foley's first title victory comes in at number ten because as far as title reigns go there wasn't much to it. In fact, Foley's victory was more of a speed bump in the road toward the showdown between the "Corporate Champion," The Rock and Steve Austin at WrestleMania XV. Furthermore, it might seem like almost any of my Honorable Mentions deserve this spot more. However, Foley's victory was one of the greatest moments in the history of Monday Night Raw, and was a wonderful and emotional victory, as the man who just never seemed like real championship material realized his life long dream of becoming WWF Champion. It didn't mater that he had DX in his corner, or that Steve Austin essentially won the match for him. When the referee counted to three the arena exploded with jubilation.

What makes this particular title change so important is that along with the emotional aspect of the victory, and the fact that it was the career zenith for Foley, is that it was a pivotal moment in the Monday Night War between WWF and WCW. This particular episode of Raw was filled on December 29, 1998, but aired on January 4, 1999. WCW had a habit of reporting Raw's taped results on Nitro, and even though the WWF announced Foley's victory on WWF.com, WCW snidely reported that Mankind was going to win the WWF Title with the intention that fans would stick with Nitro's live showdown between Hulk Hogan and Kevin Nash. Tony Schiavone ironically quipped "That'll put a lot of butts in the seats," but in this instance the irony wasn't just the tone of his voice, as reporting the match outcome backfired and caused droves of fans to switch over to Raw because they did, in fact, want to see Foley win the belt.


IX



Ultimate Warrior defeats Hulk Hogan
April 1, 1990



When you bring up WrestleMania to people of my generation, inevitably this match quickly finds its way into the conversation. While Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant may have been the biggest match of all time, Hulk Hogan vs. The Ultimate Warrior is one of the most fondly remembered matches of all time. And for good reason, as the match is with out a doubt a classic battle between two seemingly unstoppable forces and two of the most popular wrestlers in the country at the time. When you remove the match from its epic context, it is really only a decent match at best, that simply attempts to pass the torch from Hogan to Warrior. That changing of the guard may have been enough for this entry to have made it on the list, but what makes this such an important title change is the very thing I mentioned above. How many title matches do you hear people talk about today? There are a few (some of the others on this list), but Hogan vs. Warrior has taken on a life of its own; it transcends the concept of a wrestling match and has somehow become greater than the sum of its parts.

Ultimately this match comes in at number nine because despite the huge push, victory, and passing of the torch moment, Warrior ultimately failed to change the game. Instead of becoming the next Hulk Hogan he merely drifted along until the Warrior as WWF Champion experiment came to an end. The fact that Warrior was at best a just barely above average champion and didn't/couldn't live up to the promise that the match made, really hurt this title change's ranking on my list. Because, despite how important the match seemed at the time Warrior's failure to become the next iconic flag bearer for the WWF made the title change significantly less important.


VIII



Ric Flair wins the Royal Rumble
January 19, 1992



When Ric Flair came to the WWF in the fall of 1991, it seemed like only a matter of time before he would face off with Hulk Hogan for the WWF Title. After helping The Undertaker defeat Hogan for the WWF Title, and interfering in Hogan's rematch it seemed certain that Flair would get his shot against Hogan. However, WWF President Jack Tunney declared the WWF Title vacant due to the controversial title changes and put the belt up for grabs in the 1992 Royal Rumble match. The match featured a who's who of WWF talent including former champions Hulk Hogan, The Undertaker, Sgt. Slaughter, Randy Savage, The Iron Sheik (as Col. Mustafa), and other greats like Roddy Pipper, Jimmy Snuka, Sid Justice, and of course Ric Flair. Flair drew the rather unlucky number three entrance position, but managed to keep himself in the match all the way to the final five (Piper, Savage, Hogan, and Justice). After Savage and Piper were eliminated, Hogan thought he had an ally in Sid, but Sid betrayed him and helped Flair eliminate him. Angered by the betrayal Hogan grabbed Sid's arm and pulled as Flair pushed, making Flair the new WWF Champion.

Flair's title victory was important for several reasons. First, by having him win the hour long Royal Rumble Flair essentially defeated the WWF's entire roster, and unquestionably earned the championship. Second, Flair became the first former NWA Champion since Buddy Rogers to win the WWF Title, which is an important feat unto itself. Third, Flair's victory kicked off the WWF's post Hogan era. Although Hogan would wrestle at WrestleMania VIII, and would win the WWF Title at WrestleMania IX, Hogan really wasn't much of factor in the WWF after losing the Rumble. The reason this entry only comes in at number eight is because Flair wasn't really the one who ushered in the new era, but his victory signaled the start of it.


VII



Bob Backlund defeats Billy Graham
February 20, 1978


Since I'm writing about ushering in new eras in WWF history, it's important not to forget about some of the older ones. Since the WWWF's inception its fifteen year had been largely dominated by Bruno Sammartino who had been the promotion's champion for eleven years. In 1977 Sammartino lost the title for the last time to "Superstar" Billy Graham. Graham enjoyed a particularly long title reign for a rule breaker in the WWWF, and may have even enjoyed a longer reign if Vince McMahon, Sr. hadn't already promised the championship to Bob Backlund. Backlund defeated Graham with his trademark Atomic Drop (even though Graham got his foot on the rope) and kicked off a brand new era in WWF history. Aside from a few controversial and debated title changes Backlund reigned for five years as champion.

This title change comes in at number seven because it marks a significant change in direction for the WWWF. Graham's reign bridged the gap between Sammartino and Backlund, and Backlund represented this new direction away from Sammartino as the main attraction. The success of Backlund's reign both within the ring and financially helps this particular title change make the list. Ultimately, however, Backlund's era was still sandwiched between the incredible success of the Sammartino and Hogan eras, and takes a back seat to both of them.


VI



Steve Austin defeats The Rock
April 1, 2001



My reasoning for choosing this match is similar to my reasoning for choosing Hogan vs. Warrior. The showdown between the WWF Champion The Rock and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin was as big a match as they could possibly promote. Both men were arguably the single most popular wrestler not just in the WWF, but in the whole country. While the two had been in the main event of WrestleMania XV, two years later both had only become bigger stars. However, there was more to this match than just the WWF Title. Austin was fighting to regain his place on top of the wrestling world, The Rock was trying to establish himself as the best in the world, and surrounding it all was the demise of WCW and the end of the massively successful Monday Night War era. So, in a way this match was sort of the WWF's grand finale of that period. The match is also significant because it opened a new chapter in the McMahon/Austin saga, as Austin turned heel and aligned himself with his former enemy.

Unlike Hogan vs. Warrior, Rock vs. Austin was a superb match, and just as dramatic, yet, the two had faced each other several times and big matches like this one (thanks to the Monday Night War) were a fairly regular occurrence, so the legend of the match didn't become bigger than the match itself. However, in a kind of sad way, the match represented a huge change in the WWF. The star (Austin) and the storyline (Austin vs. McMahon) that had won the Monday Night War for the WWF were permanently altered after WrestleMania XVII. Austin flopped as a heel, and the WWF, without competition, started a long slide back to mediocrity. Because I view this title change as a very important I've placed it at number six. However, because I view this title change as signaling the transition to a negative period in the WWF, I've only placed this title change at number six.


V



Bret Hart defeats Yokozuna
March 20, 1994



I wrote earlier how when Ric Flair won the WWF Title in the Royal Rumble it signaled the beginning of the post-Hogan era, but that Flair would not be that era's flag bearer. I would argue that it took the WWF two years to figure out that flag bearer would be Bret "The Hitman" Hart. Although Hart defeated Flair for the WWF Title in 1992, he didn't really seem like the champion. His victory just sort of happened. There was no hype, no push, and the title change happened at an un-televised house show. Hart would lose the title to Yokozuna at WrestleMania IX, and Yokozuna immediately lost the belt to Hulk Hogan. Hart and Hogan were supposed to have a match at the King of the Ring, but politics got in the way, and instead Yokozuna crushed Hogan and recaptured the belt. For nine months Yokozuna appeared unstoppable, defeating men like Lex Luger and the Undertaker in the process, but at WrestleMania X the WWF Championship would be defended twice. Yokozuna made it past Lex Luger the first challenger, but came up short in his match with Hart, who avenged his loss from the year before.

The match wasn't very good, but the build up to the match couldn't have been any better, as Hart was painted as a major underdog to both Luger and Yokozuna. He only co-won the Royal Rumble and then lost to his brother Owen in the opening match of WrestleMania X. The reason I placed this title change at a fairly high number five, is because it marked the official beginning of the New Generation. For the first time since Hogan's initial departure after WrestleMania VIII the WWF finally seemed to have a real sense of direction. Hart's victory also established himself as the real top star (despite a number of pretenders to the thronein the company, for several years to come.


IV



Steve Austin defeats Shawn Michaels
March 29, 1998



While there are arguably several potential kick off points of the Attitude Era, the Attitude Era was kicked into high gear at WrestleMania XIV when Steve Austin defeated Shawn Michaels to win the WWF Title. In the wake of a highly tumultuous 1997, Shawn Michaels was unquestionably the most established wrestler in the WWF and Steve Austin, despite a near crippling neck injury, was on the fast track to the top. Although Michaels was the leader of the bad-attitude laden D-generation X, he was still symbolic of the WWF's New Generation, and Austin was representative of the unstoppable force of change. To many fans, the outcome of the match was a bit of a foregone conclusion, as the WWF seemed set to explode out of the near dark ages of the last few years into a renaissance led by Steve Austin.

There is only one title change on this list that I would say is more representative of a dramatic shift in the WWF's direction than this one and I've placed it at number one. With Austin's ascension to the top of the WWF and Michaels's departure from it came a colossal transformation that, despite months of build, happened almost overnight. Austin's victory kicked off the McMahon/Austin feud, Michael's departure led to the recreation of DX with Triple H as the leader, and within a matter of a few weeks the WWF had caught up to WCW in the ratings war. The reason I only placed this title change at number four is because as important as it was the seeds of change (the Attitude Era) had been planted as far back as the Sid vs. Shawn Michaels match at the 1996 Survivor Series when the crowd turned on Michaels.


III



Bruno Sammartino defeats Buddy Rogers
May 17, 1963



In my debut column I ranked Bruno Sammartino as the greatest WWWF Champion, a statement I still stand by today. I've documented the history of both Rogers and Sammartino in my Ten Greatest and Ten Worst Champions lists, so I'm going to forgo reiterating what I wrote in those columns. What I will discuss is just how important this title change was to the WWWF. For several years Buddy Rogers had been NWA Champion, but he preferred the New York to Washington D.C. market (Capitol Wrestling) because he made the most money there. So, even after losing the NWA Title it was simply a matter of Capitol Wrestling disputing the loss so that they could continue to promote Rogers as their champion. Capitol Wrestling became the WWWF, and Rogers was their first champion (despite not actually being officially declared WWWF Champion until several months after the renaming of the promotion). Rogers in many ways represented the NWA, as fans still associated him with the NWA Title, and Sammartino represented a new era of wrestling. In fact, Sammartino's popularity in the New York to Washington D.C. market was so massive that he was one of the primary reasons for the WWWF's split from the NWA. The NWA would have been unlikely to crown Sammartino champion, so the promoters of the WWWF decided to do it themselves.

The match between the two was less than a minute long and Rogers submitted to an over the shoulder backbreaker, but its brevity only severed as a precursor to Sammartino's impending dominance. Sammartino would hold the WWWF Title for more than seven years, and worked like a dog the entire time. Even when he wasn't champion his legacy overshadowed Pedro Morales's highly successful title reign so much that after a few years the belt was transitioned back to him. As I wrote above, the first fifteen years of the WWE's history were dominated by Sammartino. His dedication to the promotion and his fans at the expense of himself and his family set the WWWF on the path to success in a way no one else at the time could. Sammartino is probably the very reason there is a WWE today, as without his drawing power Capitol Wrestling probably never would have broken away from the NWA in the first place. Much of the promotions subsequent success was set in motion by Sammartino's victory over Rogers.


II



Shawn Michaels defeats Bret Hart
November 9, 1997



You knew the Montreal Screwjob had to make it onto this list. Here is a title change that, to this day, is still frequently referenced and emulated. In fact WWE just revisited the plot of it at Breaking Point when the Undertaker "submitted" to CM Punk. I really don't feel the need to go into many details about this match, as if you're unfamiliar with it I'm not sure what you are doing reading a wrestling column in the first place. What makes this title change deserving of the number two spot is that it truly changed the rules of the game. Prior to 1997 Vince McMahon was known to most fans as just an (in my opinion an almost unbearably annoying) announcer (seriously, if you think Michael Cole has some over used phrases go back and listen to McMahon "Unbelievable," "Whadda maneuver," "One, two, hegothim,nohedidn't," ugh). In 1997, however, the secret came out in the storylines that McMahon was in fact the owner of the WWF, and McMahon started playing an increased role in the narrative.

When McMahon told the time keeper to "ring the fucking bell," as Michaels had Hart locked in Hart's own Sharpshooter submission hold, a scheme that Hart (I believe) had legitimately not been aware of, McMahon went from being a passive announcer to real-life business man protecting his investment. In this sense this title change is more significant for the career of Vince McMahon than anyone else involved as it laid the foundation for the Mr. McMahon character. Of course, Hart's career quickly went down the tubes and Michaels would transition the belt to Steve Austin a few months later, but the importance and the ramifications of the Montreal Screwjob can still be seen today over a decade later.


I



Hulk Hogan defeats The Iron Sheik
January 23, 1984



I feel entirely comfortable stating that no title change in the history of pro wrestling is more important that Hulk Hogan's victory over the Iron Sheik. Hogan's victory forever changed the very nature of professional wrestling. Prior to his win wrestling was still treated very much like a sport. While some people were aware of the fixed match outcomes wrestling was still taken more at face value. Results were printed in newspapers, and state athletic commissions regulated matches and events. After Hogan won the WWF all of that started to change. "Wrestling" was slowly phased out, and "Sports Entertainment" was slowly phased in. The changes in the wrestling business after Hogan's victory weren't just style changes. The audience's familiarity with Hulk Hogan (due to his appearance in Rocky III) made him, and the WWF, into a nationally recognized brand. "Hulkamania," did in fact run wild and created a new legion of fans, spawned the pop-culture connection known as "Rock 'n Wrestling," and led to the creation of WrestleMania. Most importantly Hogan's title victory was the vehicle through which Vince McMahon was able to promote his brand of wrestling throughout the entire country, and ultimately led to the demise of the territory system. Whether these changes were good or not are a matter of opinion.

Aside from the business aspects of the title change, Hogan's victory, like Backlund's before, and Austin's later marked a shift in the direction for the WWF. This shift, however, changed not just the WWF but the entire face of professional wrestling and that's why it is the most important WWF Title change of all time. And I feel comfortable saying that it will always be the most important.


Conclusion


So what's the point of this list? Part of it is just a trip down memory lane, but it's also an indictment of the current state of affairs in the WWE. If you look at the Top Ten, the most recent match is Austin vs. Rock at WrestleMania XVII. I'm not saying that there haven't been important title changes since then, but the addition of a second world title and the brand extension really left WWE unfocused as a promotion. Currently, witnessing an important title change while watching WWE is an impossibility, because when they are swapping world titles around on an average of nearly twice monthly, no champion has the ability to make a real impact.


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He went to the well once to often Brain...

Posted By: Gorilla Monsoon (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:00 AM

 
 
"Prior to 1997 Vince McMahon was known to most fans as just an (in my opinion an almost unbearably annoying) announcer "

Heh, not just you. Back in late 80s and early 90s I would watch the WWF and cringe hearing all annoying, repetitive crap from McMahon and wonder wtf does this guys still have a job - doesn't his employer listen to how bad he sucks as an announcer?


Posted By: Sarcastro (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:01 AM

 
 
Bret Hart's victory over Yokozuna was the 5th most important title change in WWE history?? Are you kidding me? Is that why Bret played second fiddle to Undertaker for the rest of the year as Taker's matches got top billing and went on last at the PPVs? Is that why Bret went back to the midcard by the end of the year while Diesel got a nearly year-long title reign?

Posted By: Bob (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:04 AM

 
 
Swap the Foley win with the Savage Mania 4 win.

Also, I give Austin 3:16 promo the unofficial beginning of Attitude era much moreso than the Sid vs HBK SS title match.


Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:27 AM

 
 
Great article. Only thing I would have added somewhere (maybe just an honorable mention was Eddie's victory over Brock.

Posted By: kid (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:35 AM

 
 
Agreed. I think WWE just got so nervous at the thought of receiving the same backlash they got when Cena dominated the title for two and a half years, that now they're reluctant to keep the belt on anyone. How I'd love to see Michaels and Jericho both win at Survivor Series, have a unification match at the Royal Rumble, and keep the belts together for the next year or so before finally breaking them apart again, hopefully with no more than two changes in the meantime.

Posted By: Bimmy (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:36 AM

 
 
I am so damn sick of hearing about the Montreal Screwjob!

BRET was leaving the company in a time that Vince actually gave a damn if someone was leaving the company. Especially if that someone was a big star going to WCW. Boo f'n hoo that Bret wouldn't win his last WWF match. Go cry an Canadian river and get on with your lives Canadia!


Posted By: Eboney (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:55 AM

 
 
While I don't think I'd put it in the top 10, I think an honorable mention should also go to Edge's win over Cena at Rumble 2006. First, it established Edge as a main event player, but more importantly, it justified the MITB gimmick, and it is one that is still felt to this day.

If events had gone in a different direction, we could also have been including Guerrero over Lesner and Benoit over HHH & HBK as well, but sad to say those title wins and their subsequent reigns will be footnotes to wrestling history.


Posted By: Michael L (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:58 AM

 
 
If this was a WCW version, I see Davi Arquette's being number 1.

Oh and HHH isn't on the list. The insignificant bastard!


Posted By: Singaporean Fan (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:05 AM

 
 
Wow, you missed completely what is EASILY the number one moment: Ivan Koloff beating Bruno Sammartino to end his almost 8 year run as champ! Damn, that's one of the top changes of all time..how'd you leave it out?!?!?

Posted By: thedevilbunny (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:07 AM

 
 
you forget "nicely done" with regard to your vince mcmahon bingo card

Posted By: DaJ (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:08 AM

 
 
GREAT list. Nicely done, man.

Posted By: AGM (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:10 AM

 
 
To be fair, I think Yoko/Hogan deserves a spot on here and not just as an honorable mention if only because it was Vince finally realizing Hulkamania was dead (for a few years). The fact that Yoko basically squashed Hogan also was kind of a big deal given that no one had really done that up to that point. Guys like Earthquake would hurt Hogan but no one did what Yokozuna did to him. That was a pretty insane thing to happen at the time. I remember how deflated everyone in elementary school was.

Posted By: Guest#1324 (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:14 AM

 
 
Ya ya ya, Hogan beating Shiek first put wrestling in the mainstrea, but Austin beating Michaels and the era it ushered in actually made it cool and hip to be a wrestling fan, making it a far more profitable and rememberable era. If its not number 1, then Austin/Michaels should be number 2.

Posted By: TheTruth (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:39 AM

 
 
Awesome list! I never knew it was Sid who ended the boyhood dream until now ^_^

Posted By: Phil (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:50 AM

 
 
enjoyable article. I have to agree with all these picks (and their positions). Although I haven't seen all of them, Hogan v Sheik was HUGE. it was on the opening and closing credits of 80's WWF programming for a while, and those few seconds always wowed me with the explosion from the audience as the Tehran Terror was defeated. Since then I have seen the match, and it's pretty much bleh. The changing of the guard was what made it huge, and I never looked at Wrestling the same way again.

Posted By: educated savage (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:59 AM

 
 
edge's first wwe title win.

he ended cena's long title run. it shocked everyone. it cemented edge's status as a main event player. it is also the beginning of the decade's best rivalry.


Posted By: rey (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 12:00 PM

 
 
Sorry "kid", but Eddie over Brick doesn't deserve even an honourable mention.

This isn't a list of great title matches, its a list of ones which changed the business forever. I love the Eddie / Brock match, but the harsh truth is that Eddie went on to fued with JBL and then die, and Brock went on to become the next big thing for Dana White.

If Eddie's reign had resulted in a change in the WWE main event style or had forced Vince to respect his hispanic fans and drop the racist sterotypes then maybe you would have a point. But I don't see how that match changed anything.

On the list itself, I'm pretty sure the top four are correct, but once you get below those four I think it becomes a LOT more subjective.

I think Superstar Billy Graham's win deserves to be in there as it moved the WWWF (as was) towards more sports enterainment characters and away from the likes of Bruno. It was also the start of the whole era when you needed to be a rioded freak to win the title.


Posted By: bemused brit (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 12:02 PM

 
 
I am so damn sick of hearing about the Montreal Screwjob!

BRET was leaving the company in a time that Vince actually gave a damn if someone was leaving the company. Especially if that someone was a big star going to WCW. Boo f'n hoo that Bret wouldn't win his last WWF match. Go cry an Canadian river and get on with your lives Canadia!

Posted By: Eboney (Guest)
Wow, you really are a stupid idiot aren't you? Don't comment on something if you know nothing about it you fucking retard.


Posted By: paco smith (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 12:27 PM

 
 
John Cena defeating JBL?

Posted By: Guest#6131 (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 12:32 PM

 
 
Go cry an Canadian river and get on with your lives Canadia! Posted By: Eboney (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:55 AM okay pal they will get over it when Americans like you start spelling and using proper grammar. Its embarrassing that you can talk shit about another country and make a mistake like using "an" instead of "a". The word "an" is used mostly when the next word begins with a vowel, or words like "hour" for example. And its Canada not canadia like you spelled it. It also gets a capital "C" because its the name of a place. I failed english but even I know that simple shit. Now please don't make use Americans look dumber with your slowness.

Posted By: hateman (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 12:36 PM

 
 
"While I don't think I'd put it in the top 10, I think an honorable mention should also go to Edge's win over Cena at Rumble 2006."
It wasn't a Royal Rumble. It was New Year's Revolution.


Posted By: Nitpick (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 12:36 PM

 
 
Great list

Posted By: puffykilled2pac (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 12:38 PM

 
 
besides bret hart over yokozuna i like the list!!!

Posted By: James T. (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 01:05 PM

 
 
9 years since an important title change..... See what happens when you have the same 4 wrestlers in every main event.?

Posted By: Guest#1141 (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 01:08 PM

 
 
This is by far the best Contentious Ten I've read - I don't agree with every pick and the ordering of them, but the thought that has gone into it and the way in which that thought comes out through the writing is great.

Posted By: Dave_W (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 01:26 PM

 
 
To be fair, I think Yoko/Hogan deserves a spot on here and not just as an honorable mention if only because it was Vince finally realizing Hulkamania was dead (for a few years). The fact that Yoko basically squashed Hogan also was kind of a big deal given that no one had really done that up to that point. Guys like Earthquake would hurt Hogan but no one did what Yokozuna did to him. That was a pretty insane thing to happen at the time. I remember how deflated everyone in elementary school was.

Posted By: Guest#1324 (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 11:14 AM


So true. I remember being heart-broken, always hoping for Hulk Hogan to make his WWF return. I was okay with Lex and Bret Hart being world champion, but still hoped Hulk would come back and really take care of Yokozuna and get even on that camera man who's camera exploded in his face (over 15 years later and we never found out who he was! lol. Maybe the same guy running GTV.) Eventually, I got over Hogan as people like Undertaker, Diesel, and Shawn Michaels held my interest.


Posted By: Guest#9424 (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 01:40 PM

 
 
I'm suprised Kurt Angle's win over Steve Austin in September of 2001 didn't make the list. Granted, the win was controversial and the reign was less than mediocre, but the significance of the American Hero triumphing over his enemy just weeks after the 9/11 attacks to lift the American spirit should bear some significance as an important title win.

Posted By: Kristian (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 01:46 PM

 
 
Putting Eddie Gurrero's win over Brock Lesnar would just be a pointless tribute to a great wrestler that happend to die. Lots of people die every day and they are not listed in this contentious 10. get over Eddie already dude. his win was an asterix

Posted By: Old School Fan (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 01:54 PM

 
 
Nice work, man. The only way it could've been better is if it was an all-around "Top Ten Most Important Title Changes in Wrestling History" kinda deal. Hogan debuting in WCW by taking the world title, Shane Douglas throwing down the NWA belt, and so on....

Posted By: KanyonKreist (Registered)  on November 02, 2009 at 01:56 PM

 
 
Go cry an Canadian river and get on with your lives Canadia!

Posted By: Eboney (Guest)on November 02, 2009 at 10:55 AM

okay pal they will get over it when Americans like you start spelling and using proper grammar. Its embarrassing that you can talk shit about another country and make a mistake like using "an" instead of "a". The word "an" is used mostly when the next word begins with a vowel, or words like "hour" for example. And its Canada not canadia like you spelled it. It also gets a capital "C" because its the name of a place. I failed english but even I know that simple shit. Now please don't make use Americans look dumber with your slowness.

Posted By: hateman (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Ok pal you pretty much set yourself up for this. "English" is supposed to be capitalized. You said, "Don't make USE Americans" instead of US Americans...

Oh and you forgot the apostrophe in "it's" multiple times. Probably a good idea to use spell check before posting something meant to attack another based on spelling and grammar.


Posted By: hmmm (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 02:38 PM

 
 
With the title changing hands at every PPV now(and on sometimes the following night's Raw), it's like seeing a successful title defense (especially a non-screwy one) has become more memorable than seeing a switch. I hope the WWE gets over this constant hot-shot strategies and stabilizes the titles soon, because title changes have been completely devalued by the current environment. At least Christian looks good for being able to hold his title for more than three weeks at a time.

Posted By: Guest#9242 (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 03:08 PM

 
 
IMO, the unofficial start of the Attitude Era was when the "Goldust" character debuted in late 1995. Austin's KOTR promo and HBK getting booed out of MSG against Sid moved things along, but when Goldust started sending love letters to Razor Ramon, the WW(F) wasn't just for kids anymore.

Posted By: Tom (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 04:00 PM

 
 
hhh's 2nd title win. not many bought him as a top star after the debacle that was summerslam 99. his win at unforgiven over 5 other superstars established hunter as who he is today.

Posted By: jd (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 04:29 PM

 
 
"but still hoped Hulk would come back and really take care of Yokozuna and get even on that camera man who's camera exploded in his face (over 15 years later and we never found out who he was! lol."

I always thought the camera man was Jim Cornette in disguise since didn't he start working with Yoko and Mr. Fuji shortly after?


Posted By: poof! (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 05:05 PM

 
 
In my opinion, the Attitude Era began when I first beat off while imagining myself doing dirty, disgusting things with Terri Runnels.

Posted By: Zingy (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 05:41 PM

 
 
I admitted to failing english which is no ones fault but mine. I typed mine while shitting in a port o potty on my phone, not at a computer. If I failed English and I could find those errors that quit while shitting and on a phone that's pretty bad. And if you are gonna defend him and attack me you need your fact straight as well for spell check only checks spelling my friend, not which word you use in a sentance. Nor does it check grammar nice try though!

Posted By: hateman (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 05:45 PM

 
 
Bret Hart winning the title for the fifth time at Summerslam 97 (the beginning of the reign that would end via the Screwjob) is pretty important because it sparked: Kane's debut, the first HIAC match, DX, and the Screwjob.

And the Austin 3:16 speech started the Attitude Era.


Posted By: Guest#6482 (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 06:03 PM

 
 
The Iron Man titlematch win in 1996 less important than a win via superfast pinfall counted by Roddy Piper (if I remember correctly) after a lame titlematch? I strongly disagree. The Benoit win had to be included, and honorable mention goes also to the Batista win over HHH.

Posted By: Max (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 06:05 PM

 
 
Putting Eddie Gurrero's win over Brock Lesnar would just be a pointless tribute to a great wrestler that happend to die. Lots of people die every day and they are not listed in this contentious 10. get over Eddie already dude. his win was an asterix

Posted By: Old School Fan (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 01:54 PM

I can understand not feeling like it belongs in the top ten, but how was Eddie's win over Brock an asterisk? Do you understand how an asterisk is used in sports records? No matter what the political motivations were behind the booking decision, Eddie won the title cleanly in a one-on-one match. There are no tarnishing footnotes necessary to explain the result.

The great thing about Eddie's win was his post match celebration really communicated how much it means to hold the title. Mick Foley is the only other title celebration that felt as joyous as Eddie's. I think there is plenty of reason to remember Eddie's victory besides his unforunate passing. It was a great title change because it was an instance of an unlikely but deserving candidate--Eddie was a great wrestler but he definately didn't fit the traditional WWE champion mold-- getting the big win on the basis of his remarkable spirit.


Posted By: Lance O' Leary (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 06:21 PM

 
 
I am so damn sick of hearing about the Montreal Screwjob!

BRET was leaving the company in a time that Vince actually gave a damn if someone was leaving the company. Especially if that someone was a big star going to WCW. Boo f'n hoo that Bret wouldn't win his last WWF match. Go cry an Canadian river and get on with your lives Canadia!

Posted By: Eboney (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Who are you even talking to? The article mentions it as an important title change, which it was. The article doesn't take a stand on whether it was right or wrong, it just states its importance. I think maybe you're the one who needs to get on with his/her life, by the sound of it. Also, it's hard to take you seriously when you can't even spell the word you chose as your username correctly.


Posted By: Oh Internet (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 06:48 PM

 
 
you left out one important note to the mick foley title win...wcw had made fun of him all night but their main event was the epic finger poke of doom match...man that put some butts in the seat

Posted By: jwhat (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 07:33 PM

 
 
Great list...I really enjoy your top 10's.

I would have included Jericho's win only because it was so historic. I know his reign didn't amount to a whole lot, but it did change the face of wrestling by finally putting WCW to bed.


Posted By: cpbasil (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 07:39 PM

 
 
you know what? I agree that people need to get the fuck over the montreal screwjob. News Flash: wrestling is predetermined! How did vince's "screwing" Bret hurt Bret in any way whatsoever. If anything its the best thing that ever happened to both parties. Vince McMahon won the Monday Night war, and Bret has made an entire career out of bitching and complaining about being screwed over.

Also, i agree that Eddie Vs. Brock does not deserve to be on the list. Yeah Eddie had some great matches, but he was a TERRIBLE draw as champion. I would go so far as to say that they only put the belt on him so that they could have a memorable moment to close out WM20.


Posted By: Jlevysan (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 08:11 PM

 
 
Ultimate Warrior vs Hulk Hogan was a really GOOD match... it had some awesome psychology and told a brilliant story between two giant superstars. If only most wrestlers of today could tell a story like they did that day, we wouldn't see such a reliant on over the top big flashy moves.

Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 10:30 PM

 
 
Putting Eddie Gurrero's win over Brock Lesnar would just be a pointless tribute to a great wrestler that happend to die. Lots of people die every day and they are not listed in this contentious 10. get over Eddie already dude. his win was an asterix

you're so right, eddie's victory doesn't deserve a mention because his reign was a damn flop. benoit had a good title run, but it didn't have any effect on the business.


Posted By: Guest#8702 (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:28 PM

 
 
The Iron Man titlematch win in 1996 less important than a win via superfast pinfall counted by Roddy Piper (if I remember correctly) after a lame titlematch? I strongly disagree. The Benoit win had to be included, and honorable mention goes also to the Batista win over HHH.

Posted By: Max (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 06:05 PM

actually roddy piper was the special ref for wm x match between yokozuna and bret not the iron man match. chris benoit's and batista's win don't make the list because they won the world heavyweight championship. anyways their title reigns were not very special. benoit had great matches, but not anything that brought change.


Posted By: Guest#3853 (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:41 PM

 
 
Edge's cashing in of MITB to win the title from Cena should get an honourable mention at least. Sure he lost the belt 3 weeks later, but that win kickstarted his road to superstardom and introduced us to the ultimate opportunist. PLus Cena's win over JBL at mania, while cringeworthy, kickstarted the new Cena era in WWE. Wats there to wait and see? it should easily be in the top 10. I hate Cena and think he's boring, but its no doubt to me that that win kickstarted his career and sent WWE in a new direction. Kick out one of the stone cold matches.

Posted By: Heel (Guest)  on November 02, 2009 at 11:57 PM

 
 
Yeah Eddie had some great matches, but he was a TERRIBLE draw as champion.

Posted By: Jlevysan (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 08:11 PM

you're so right, eddie's victory doesn't deserve a mention because his reign was a damn flop. benoit had a good title run, but it didn't have any effect on the business.

Posted By: Guest#8702 (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 11:28 PM

I just watch the shows and enjoy the matches. I really don't care about attendance or gates since a champion's "draw" doesn't benefit me in anyway. Eddie winning the title was awesome, but maybe you guys were too busy with your noses buried in the business section of the Conneticut times to notice.


Posted By: Guest#4830 (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 12:19 AM

 
 
I just watch the shows and enjoy the matches. I really don't care about attendance or gates since a champion's "draw" doesn't benefit me in anyway. Eddie winning the title was awesome, but maybe you guys were too busy with your noses buried in the business section of the Conneticut times to notice.

Posted By: Guest#4830 (Guest) on November 03, 2009 at 12:19 AM

this article isn't about "awesome" victories, its about how a wwe title change had an impact and what direction did it take. eddie's win was memorable but his reign was not. he didn't take the wwe by storm like guys like austin and bret did. same thing stands for chris benoit, whose title win at wm was brilliant, but his reign was was not memorable. No disrespect to eddie or benoit.


Posted By: Guest#9444 (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 12:54 AM

 
 
Very nice list. I don't agree with everything, but very well written article.

As for everyone bitching about the hotshotting of the titles, have you forgotten that from September 2006 to November 2008 we had a total of 5 title changes?
Cena beat Edge, held it for nearly 54 weeks, forfeited it to Orton who lost it to HHH that night then re-won it 2hrs later, then held it for nearly 30 weeks, then lost it to HHH who held it for nearly 34 weeks before they started this hot-potato. And before Cena's 54 week reign we had Edge's 11 week reign, RVD's 1 month reign, Cena's few month reign, Edge's 3 week reign, Cena's 40 week reign, JBL's 40 week reign, then Eddie, etc.

It goes it spurts. Granted this hotshotting is nearly a year old for the WWE Title and going on 3 years for the World Title..

But if you bitch about this hot shotting don't bitch next time HHH has the belt for 40 weeks.


Posted By: Johnny Rock (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 01:34 AM

 
 
great list, Im glad u included bret vs yoko.........but ill put hogan vs warrior #1..............bret rules

Posted By: REBEL (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 02:10 AM

 
 
"Austin flopped as a heel"
How did he flop as a heel?
He completely reinvented his character...twice! He did some of the best character work of his career, and he had the crowd against him - that sounds like a good heel to me.
The fact that buyrates went down seems to simply indicate that the WWE had no real marquee face to work off Austin (Kurt Angle's push was rather forced.)

That doesn't mean Austin flopped at all.


Posted By: Quimby (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 08:14 AM

 
 
Agree with all the choices but here's a few I thought of
1. Kurt Angle - 2000 - for me the fact that he won the belt so quickly after his debut and that subtly he (with Jericho and Benoit) started to change wrestling making it a lot more technical than the brawling styles of HHH, Rock and Austin.

2. Edge - this is a no-brainer - beat the top face using MITB (which has become quite the gimmick)and started his main-event run.

3. Jeff Hardy - for me he was one of the last players of the Attitude Era to go through the roster (jobber, tag team. mid card, main-event) and end up as champion (along with Edge). Now I would be tempted to put in the Extreme Rules change just because it led to the awesome heel turn of CM Punk, great matches and a great feud. Whether it changes things though we'll have to wait and see.


Posted By: AH (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 08:53 AM

 
 
Putting Eddie Gurrero's win over Brock Lesnar would just be a pointless tribute to a great wrestler that happend to die. Lots of people die every day and they are not listed in this contentious 10. get over Eddie already dude. his win was an asterix

Posted By: Old School Fan (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 01:54 PM

I can understand not feeling like it belongs in the top ten, but how was Eddie's win over Brock an asterisk? Do you understand how an asterisk is used in sports records? No matter what the political motivations were behind the booking decision, Eddie won the title cleanly in a one-on-one match. There are no tarnishing footnotes necessary to explain the result.

The great thing about Eddie's win was his post match celebration really communicated how much it means to hold the title. Mick Foley is the only other title celebration that felt as joyous as Eddie's. I think there is plenty of reason to remember Eddie's victory besides his unforunate passing. It was a great title change because it was an instance of an unlikely but deserving candidate--Eddie was a great wrestler but he definately didn't fit the traditional WWE champion mold-- getting the big win on the basis of his remarkable spirit.

Posted By: Lance O' Leary (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 06:21 PM



Cleanly? Dude, you got to go back and watch that match, I'm pretty sure Goldberg interfered in that match causing Eddie to win. Before Goldberg jumped Lesnar, Eddie was being dominated. It was a big win, but it wasn't exactly clean.


Posted By: Guest 420 (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 09:23 AM

 
 
Interesting list. I guess it all qualifies as to what you consider "important" Hogan/Shiek certainly should be #1 as it clearly was a gamble (taking the tile off Backlund) and putting it on Hogan that put the WWF into steamroll mode for about 6 years. You can't really say that for any other title change on this list. For example, while you could argue that Austin/Michaels "started a new era" in similar fashion, I think that's overstating it's importance as by that point it was pretty much already underway and wasn't much of a gamble, it was more of a formality than anything. I would argue that Mankind/Rock was the bigger title change.

Hogan/Warrior should probably be higher too -- because it was also a huge shift in ideology, although I don't think it should be ranked higher then some others because it was mostly a bust.


Posted By: nwa88 (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 10:13 AM

 
 
"Yokozuna defeats Hulk Hogan, June 13, 1993: The fact that Yokozuna practically squashed Hogan and sent him packing out of the WWF was certainly an important result of this title change. The fact that Yokozuna enjoyed the longest heel title reign since Billy Graham is pretty important too. However, it just didn't seem important enough to make the list."

This whole paragraph/statement doesn't make sense. you keep praising the importance...and then at the end it doesn't seem important enough? uh, yeah cause EVERYONE beats hogan huh?


Posted By: Hogan Still Sucks (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 02:11 PM

 
 
Great column. WHen I saw the title, but before reading the article, I wrote my own Top 10, which were -
1. Hogan-Sheik
2. Austin-Michaels
3. Sammartino-Rogers
4. Michaels-Hart
5. Flair @ RR92
6. Austin-Rock 01
7. Warrior-Hogan
8. Jericho-Austin
9. Cena-JBL
10. Rock-Mankind RR 99

After reading your article, I can see the logic of placing Backlund-Graham and Bret-Yoko on the list. However, I am still convinced that Jericho-Austin was such a historic event that it needs to be in the Top 10.

And with all the Honorable Mentions, I think Rock-Mankind @ the 1999 Rumble deserves at least that. IMO, that is the match where The Rock arrived as a big-time player, it's brutality was breathtaking, and that brutality was immortalized in Beyond The Mat.

Again, though, outstanding column. It makes it fun to debate your points.


Posted By: HBK's Smile (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 02:32 PM

 
 
WTF..Mick Foley is a loser he doesnt even belong in wrestling.

Posted By: MacDollarz. (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 02:56 PM

 
 
Why must you people always try to find a place for John Cena. Especially in this column, you had to put him as an honorable mention. This guy will never ever atain the heights of even Chris Jericho's undisputed title win. He beat the Rock and Stone Cold in the same night. That is pretty much the equivalent to beating Hulk Hogan and The Ultimate Warrior in their primes on the same night. Cena has never ever been in a big money title match. He's just not a draw bottom line. He may move the merch, but he doesn't put asses in the seats.

Posted By: Guest#1596 (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 04:33 PM

 
 
Just wanted to comment to the guy that said you can't check grammar in spell check. Have you used a computer in the last 10 years? lol...

The option is called spelling and grammar.


Posted By: yaythesnowmelted (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 04:56 PM

 
 
edge's first wwe title win.

he ended cena's long title run. it shocked everyone. it cemented edge's status as a main event player. it is also the beginning of the decade's best rivalry.

Posted By: rey (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 12:00 PM

No way in hell. Edge losing the belt back a couple of weeks later made him look like an even bigger bitch than before. It wasn't until the summer that he started to catch on as a main eventer. And Edge/Cena is the single most overrated feud this decade. Lots of decent, but not great matches, and it was the same thing over and over again: Edge screws Cena, Cena then makes Edge look like a punk, rinse and repeat. Best feud this decade was Rock/Austin, even though it simply carried over from the late 90's. It produced two of the most emotional Wrestlemania matches in recent memory, at 17 and 19.

And Cena's first title win doesn't qualify either. He was still just treading water for a long time. It was his win over HHH at Mania 22 that started the era we know now.

I'd bump Flair's Royal Rumble win. Bad period for WWF in general, and he was gone within a year. I'd replace it with Savage's win at Mania 4, one of the greatest moments of the Hulkamania era in my opinion.


Posted By: Guest#6409 (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 04:59 PM

 
 
you know what? I agree that people need to get the fuck over the montreal screwjob. News Flash: wrestling is predetermined! How did vince's "screwing" Bret hurt Bret in any way whatsoever. If anything its the best thing that ever happened to both parties. Vince McMahon won the Monday Night war, and Bret has made an entire career out of bitching and complaining about being screwed over.

Posted By: Jlevysan (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 08:11 PM

Hey! Good job on commenting on something that has nothing to do with the article!


Posted By: har (Guest)  on November 03, 2009 at 06:11 PM

 
 
The Iron Man titlematch win in 1996 less important than a win via superfast pinfall counted by Roddy Piper (if I remember correctly) after a lame titlematch? I strongly disagree. The Benoit win had to be included, and honorable mention goes also to the Batista win over HHH.

Posted By: Max (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 06:05 PM

actually roddy piper was the special ref for wm x match between yokozuna and bret not the iron man match. chris benoit's and batista's win don't make the list because they won the world heavyweight championship. anyways their title reigns were not very special. benoit had great matches, but not anything that brought change.

Posted By: Guest#3853 (Guest) on November 02, 2009 at 11:41 PM


Actually, if you read correctly what I've written one of my points was exactly the fact that the Iron Man win from WM XII has been considered less than a bad titlematch refereed in a poor way by Roddy Piper and I was obviously referring to the Yoko-Bret match, nobody could say that the Iron Man match was bad, it wasn't the greatest match bit it was a really solid effort.


Posted By: Max (Guest)  on November 04, 2009 at 05:44 AM

 
 
When you have the same 4 guys vying for the title ppv after ppv , it gets boring !!! Punk was a breath of fresh air but as for the rest (HHH, Undertaker, Cena, Orton ) this shit gets boring When the WWE will not create any new talent to vie for any titles , what do you expect . Same old Same old (especially when one guy is the owners brother -in -law (who by the way , wants to best Flairs record) and the other guy cannot and willnot elevate any new talent and is so old he needs to be helped to & from the ring (taker) you get what you pay for boring, stale title runs & matches.

Posted By: Cct3stii (Guest)  on November 04, 2009 at 06:09 PM

 
 
The most important title change [key word here is change, not WIN] is when Vince and the two homo's in DX [Michaels and Hunter] STOLE the belt from Bret Hart in Montreal. This truly marked an end of an era, and WWF/WWE programming has suffered because of it.

Posted By: Guest (Guest)  on November 05, 2009 at 10:14 PM

 
 
some of the title changes from the late 80's and early 90's aren't getting enough cred.

Randy Savage wins vacant title: Let's just face facts: the favorite was whoever won the Andre/Hogan match and when they were both disqualified, it blew the whole tournament open wide and created a whole new ballgame. And Savage scored a couple somewhat-upsets against wrestlers who received byes and sat out a round, and won 4 matches in 4 hours to win the title, making him look really damn impressive. The title reign was supposed to have been shortlived as the original plan was to give it to Dibiase, and who was supposed to defeat Savage for the title, but Savage was so over and so talented, that he ended up holding the title for a year. The only other face to take the world title during the peak of Hulkamania was the Ultimate Warrior.

Ric Flair wins the vacant title: Watch the ending. Hulk was going for his 3rd Rumble win in a row and 5th title reign and people were starting to think it was getting stale. Hogan is in the final 3 and is prompting to eliminate Flair, who has been in there an hour. Sid does the smart thing by figuring Flair is easier to get rid of at this point and is a better person to face against in the final 2 and eliminiates Hogan. Watch the crowd and notice those cheers for Hogan's elimination. Hogan can't accept being failry eliminated and causes someone else's unfair elimination (sound familiar? happened in 89 with the Bossman as well). Only that idiot Hogan doesn't realize that when he did that, he created a new world champion in one of his main enemies at the time, Ric Flair. Flair leaves to celebrate with Perfect and Heenan, while Sid and Hogan have the showdown. Are those loud boos I hear for Hogan? Yup. Ooh, that's not what was supposed to happen, so they redubbed it when it appeared on a Coliseum Video release to make it appear that fans were pissed at Hogan's departure. This is noteable for the fans turning on Hogan and realizing his act was getting stale at this point.

Bret Hart defeats Ric Flair. It wasn't supposed to happen. Ric Flair wasn't supposed to lose the title again this quick, but he acquired an injury of sorts and they had to take the title off him. Who to but the belt on? UT was in an angle at the time, Savage just lost the belt. That pretty much left Bret to take it. And Bret's victory proved that you could get over on your God-given wrestling talent and not have to be big or have the biggest muscles. Look at the shocked fans in the crowd.


Posted By: mike (Guest)  on November 07, 2009 at 06:49 AM

 
 
just a correction, they didn't overdub the cheers with boos on the Coliseum Video, they are intact on there. They only did it on the syndicated airings of clips of the Rumble match and on all the pre-mania preview show packages.

Posted By: nwa88 (Guest)  on November 08, 2009 at 07:11 PM

 


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