The Piledriver Report 11.04.09: Survivor Series - From Surviving To Just Another Pay Per View
Posted by Ronny Sarnecky on 11.04.2009
When the Survivor Series was first created, the WWF presented a unique pay per view to the fans. Two teams of five would compete against each other in an elimination match. Over the years, the WWF has moved away from focusing on these elimination matches, and instead more of the focus goes to the non-traditional Survivor Series matches. The Piledriver Report looks back at the beginnings of the Survivor Series pay per view, and yearns for the days when the November pay per view featured “teams of five striving to survive.”
Thursday, November 26th, 1987 will go down in history as the day that Jim Crockett Promotions took its first steps towards the realization that they could not compete with Vince McMahon's World Wrestling Federation.
Leading towards Thanksgiving Day of 1987, the holiday was looked at as a celebration of Crockett's Mid-Atlantic promotion. The NWA's top promotion was heading into their first foray into the world of pay per view television. Pay per view was supposed to be the golden goose that gave Jim Crockett Promotions an added revenue stream that would allow them to compete with the WWF. Unfortunately, they didn't count on one thing.
THEBEGINNINGS
Coming off of a hugely successful WrestleMania III pay per view broadcast, the WWF decided to create a new pay per view show scheduled for Thanksgiving night called the Survivor Series. This new supercard wasn't just used to compete with the NWA's Starrcade event. The WWF used the first Survivor Series to help drive the first nail in Crockett Promotions' coffin.
Cable companies were thrilled to add the WWF's new show to their pay per view line-up. They had vision of making Thanksgiving an annual wrestling holiday. Many were going to offer a special combination deal to those fans that purchased both wrestling super shows. This was not to be. The World Wrestling Federation threatened all of the cable companies that whichever companies carried Starrcade, the WWF would not offer them the Survivor Series, nor next year's WrestleMania IV to broadcast. Needless to say, most cable companies decided to go with the WWF, due to their previous success over the NWA's inaugural pay per view telecast.
When the WWF introduced the concept of the Survivor Series to the fans, the tag line was "teams of five strive to survive." I remember being in high school looking forward to this new event, while also wondering what the WWF was trying to sell us.
The first Survivor Series event was held at the Richfield Coliseum in Richfield, Ohio. When the broadcast being, the rules were finally explained. Each match was to be held under elimination rules. The match would end once one team had all five members eliminated from the match. Therefore, as team members are eliminated, your team could find themselves at 3-1, 4-2, or even a 5-1 disadvantage. It was a unique concept that seemed to click immediately, at least for me.
The very first match in Survivor Series history featured team captain Randy Savage, along with Ricky Steamboat, Jim Duggan, Brutus Beefcake, and Jake Roberts against Hercules, Danny Davis, Ron Bass, and Harley Race being led by their team captain the WWF Intercontinental champion the Honky Tonk Man. The second match on the card featured a Ladies Survivor Series match at a time when the ladies were wrestlers, and not "divas." The Fabulous Moolah led Rockin' Robin, Velvet McIntyre and The Jumping Bomb Angels (Itsuki Yamazaki and Noriyo Tateno) against the WWF Women's Champion Sensational Sherri, WWF Women's Tag Team Champions The Glamour Girls (Leilani Kai and Judy Martin), Donna Christanello and Dawn Marie. The third match was a tag team variation of the Survivor Series match with 10 tag teams. If a person from a tag team was eliminated, their partner was also eliminated. The match featured WWF Tag Team Champions Strike Force (Tito Santana and Rick Martel), The Young Stallions (Paul Roma and Jim Powers), The Fabulous Rougeaus (Jacques and Raymond), The Killer Bees (Jim Brunzell and Brian Blair) and British Bulldogs (Davey Boy Smith and Dynamite Kid) against The Hart Foundation (Bret Hart and Jim Neidhart), The Islanders (Haku and Tama), Demolition (Ax and Smash), The Bolsheviks (Nikolai Volkoff and Boris Zhukov) and The New Dream Team (Greg Valentine and Dino Bravo). In the main event, Hulk Hogan captained Paul Orndorff, Don Muraco, Bam Bam Bigelow, and Ken Patera against captain Andre the Giant, Rick Rude, King Kong Bundy, One Man Gang, and Butch Reed.
After the show, I was hooked. The Survivor Series was extremely unique. The Series gave the fans several different scenarios that you do not see everyday. In the beginning of 1987, Randy Savage and Ricky Steamboat were waging an all-out war against each other. After turning into a babyface in October, Randy Savage was now on the same side of the fence as "The Dragon." How would Savage coexist being teammates with the man that beat him for the WWF Intercontinental championship eight months earlier?
The second match-up featured the awesome work rate of the Jumping Bomb Angels. Watching Itsuki Yamazaki and Noriyo Tateno battle Leilani Kai and Judy Martin in a tag team match once every other wrestler on their teams were eliminated was incredible. These four women put on a display that made you forget that women's matches are usually bathroom break matches.
My favorite Survivor Series match was the Survivor Series match featuring all of the tag teams in the WWF. I'm a huge fan of tag team wrestling, and to see each team on display in one match was a great sight. Look at all of the tag team talent in that match. Santana/Martel, the Rougeaus, the Killer Bees, the British Bulldogs, the Hart Foundation, the Islanders, Demolition, and Valentine/Bravo (the Young Stallions and the Bolsheviks were the lone "scrub" teams in the match). Can you imagine at tag team Survivor Series match in 2009? I don't think the WWE has enough teams to complete the match. Let's see, there would be Big Show/Chris Jericho, the Hart Dynasty, Rhodes/DiBiase vs. DeGeneration X, Cryme Tyme, Mark Henry/MVP. That's it. Six total teams, with three of those teams normally competing on the singles scene. There aren't even enough teams to compete in the 1989 Survivor Series tag team match when the WWF changed the matches to four on four elimination matches.
TWEAKINGTHECONCEPT
While the WWF tweaked the card in 1989 to four on four matches, it allowed the WWF to add an additional Survivor Series match to the card. In 1990, the WWF added a new element. To capitalize on the popularity of Hulk Hogan and the WWF World Champion the Ultimate Warrior, the WWF created a Grand Finale Match of Survival. This match feature all of the survivors from the previous matches on the card to compete in one final match. The face survivors Tito Santana, Hulk Hogan, and the Ultimate Warrior faced off against the heel survivors Ted DiBiase, Rik Martel, the Warlord, Paul Roma, and Hercules. The underlying reason for this "grand finale" match was to get both Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior in the main event of the evening. Despite this behind the scenes reason, I loved the idea of a grand finale match. The grand finale match gave the fans the survivors of survivors. It was a cool concept, that unfortunately only lasted that year.
In 1991, the WWF presented its first traditional non-elimination match during a Survivor Series event when the Undertaker captured his first WWF World title in a singles contest against Hulk Hogan. This Survivor Series also provided us with our first three on three elimination match. It was three on three, as Psycho Sid was injured, and his replacement Randy Savage was "healing" from a "snakebite" along with Jake Roberts being removed from the heel side to make the match even.
In 1992, the WWF loaded the card with non-elimination matches. Only The Nasty Boys (Brian Knobbs and Jerry Sags) and The Natural Disasters (Earthquake and Typhoon) vs. Money Inc. (Ted DiBiase and Irwin R. Schyster) and The Beverly Brothers (Beau and Blake) (with Jimmy Hart and The Genius) match was a traditional Survivor Series match.
While the 1993 show went back to mostly team elimination matches, each pay per view until 1998 had non-elimination matches sprinkled in. The 1998 show featured a one-night tournament to name a new WWF World Heavyweight Champion. Since 1998, the traditional Survivor Series matches have taken a back seat to the non-elimination matches for the most part.
SURVIVORSERIESTODAY
Survivor Series 2009 takes place on November 22nd at the Verizon Center in Washington D.C. Currently, there have only been two matches announced. John Cena will be defending the WWE World title in a Triple Threat match against Shawn Michaels and Triple H. The Undertaker defends the World Heavyweight championship against the Big Show and Chris Jericho, also under Triple Threat rules.
So far, the WWE hasn't announced any traditional Survivor Series elimination matches. They probably will announce one or two shortly. At least, they should. Especially if they are looking for RAW vs. SmackDown! matches that will help them capitalize on the RAW vs. SmackDown! video game, as was the rumor as to why they held the RAW vs. SmackDown! Bragging Rights pay per view.
Despite the Survivor Series being one of the "Big Four" pay per views, I no longer get excited as the Survivor Series draws near. With the WWE looking at revamping their "B" level pay per view shows by adding gimmicks like Hell in a Cell, Submission Only, Tables, Ladders, and Chairs, and Extreme Rules, now is the perfect time for the WWE to revamp the Survivor Series.
The Survivor Series started out as a unique concept. Over the years, they have lost their way. It's time for the WWE to go back to their original format. Five on five, or four vs. four match-ups featuring competitors that rarely wrestle one another going up against each other for one night only. Teammates who once feuded are now partners, or they can twist things up by having men who are feuding being forced to team with each other. This would spark the Survivor Series from becoming just another pay per view. Now, if we can only get enough tag teams to bring back the 10-team tag team elimination match.
Im hoping & expecting a couple of Survior Series style matches to be made soon, i love watching them as its just such fun seeing people try to survive until the end.
Posted By: jbardo (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 12:22 PM
my favorite SS moment was a match with irs was the sole member of his team left taking on LOD. they beat him mercilessly for some 10 minutes. even though LOD won, i had a new found respect for mr. rotunda.
i wished they had kept randy orton's streak in tact. what wrestlemania is to taker, survivor series was looking to be randy's ppv. he was the sole survivor of winning team 3 consecutive years.
Posted By: rey (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Remember back in '95 when they had the wild card Survivor Series match? They mixed heels and faces on the same team. HBK, Ahmed Johnson, Bulldog, and Sid vs. Yoko, Owen, Razor, and Dean Douglas. Boy that was a great idea.
This article was a good piece of nostalgia and a reminder that the WWE needs to keep this PPV unique with it's Survivor Series match being a focal point of the the show.
Posted By: Justin (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 12:38 PM
That would be great... it would be great if WWE got away from having a title match at EVERY PPV...a traditional survivor series ppv could help build feuds (just look how they used it for Hogan/Savage and Hogan/Warrior)
Posted By: M:-X (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 12:39 PM
I miss the elimination-style matches, as well.
Personally, my favourite Survivor Series was 1990 and I miss the Sole Survivor main event. It gave a real survivor feeling to the event and made the wins of each match something special. The odds were stacked against Warrior/Hogan/Tito going into the main event, which made it a little more exciting. And then you had Tito take out their biggest, dominating gun (Warlord) right out of the gate.
I doubt it'll happen, but what if they used the old ECW triple-threat rules and include elimination rules?
Posted By: ThatNickGuy78 (Registered) on November 04, 2009 at 01:00 PM
Last year there were 3 elimination matches, so they haven't totally strayed from tradition
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 01:34 PM
I think the Survivor Series concept died for me the night The Big Show beat Triple H for the WWF Championship - the card was full of throw away SS teams such as The British Bulldog and The Mean Street Posse. They also had a Big Show team of Funaki, Taka Michinuku and The Blue Meanie (which never made it into the match after TBS trashed them).
Posted By: JAK (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 01:38 PM
My favorite moment was in 89 with Hogan's team vs Dibiase's team. The Dibiase team gets totally screwed with bs DQ's and Jesse Ventura absolutely rips into Hogan and points out that the referee was blatantly bias, horrible match, but I love hearing The Body rip into the face team with Gorilla having no real comeback.
Other than that I'd say the two tag team Survivor Series matches in 87 & 88 are by far the best. I'd be all for going back to the traditional style, it would give the title matches a rest. It would be hard to build a feud between ten or even eight guys in three weeks though. They need to eliminate the ppv's before Summerslam and Survivor Series to give a bigger build to them and make them have that "big event" feel again. The Rumble and Wrestlemania have that feel for me, and a big part of it is not having a blow off PPV two weeks before. I think this "gimmick per PPV" approach will hurt the big 4 also in that a HITC or TLC match doesn't mean shit anymore to blow a feud off b/c they are wasted on meaningless one shot PPV's.
Posted By: kingave66 (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 02:24 PM
Wrestling has changed. It used to be important to win. Now - it's more important to advance a storyline and look good doing it.
So in the 90's, when your team won, it was important. That was what we talked about. But today - you "win" by not looking bad.
Chris Jericho, John Morrison, Rey Misterio - they get praise because they put on good matches, even when they lose. John Cena, Randy Orton and HHH - they get derided because they put on mediocre matches, even though they win most of their matches.
And how weird is it to say that Cena, Orton and HHH win most of their matches when so many of their matches are against each other and they are fairly even in wins and losses against each other. Well - it's because they ONLY lose to each other. When was the last time any of them lost to someone outside of this group (exclude tag team matches).
A little off track - but my point is - Survivor Series used to work because it was about winning. If you want to bring back some luster to these matches - make them mean something. Get guaranteed title shots - get "banished" from the show - something other than simply winning. Because winning is not enough.
Posted By: SpankyHamm (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 03:18 PM
We need team Kofi vs. team Orton.
Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 05:01 PM
Remember back in '95 when they had the wild card Survivor Series match? They mixed heels and faces on the same team. HBK, Ahmed Johnson, Bulldog, and Sid vs. Yoko, Owen, Razor, and Dean Douglas. Boy that was a great idea.
That was my favourite too, great match
Posted By: the juice (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 05:17 PM
Back in the late '80,s and early '90,s being on a 'Survivor Series' team was really a statement about where you were on the pecking order; unfortunately the business has changed so much that if an R-Truth or Mike Knox were to be placed in an elimination match it would say more about how much the WWE cared about those matches, as opposed to how much they cared about Knox and Truth.
Posted By: Guest#7464 (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 05:20 PM
how about this match up
Randy Orton, Ted Dibase, Cody Rhodes, David Hart Smith & Tyson Kidd vs Kofi Kingston, MVP, Mark Henry, JTG & Shad Gaspard
Posted By: Tom (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 06:35 PM
I have one other match too
John Morrisson, Finlay, R-Truth, Santino & Evan Bourne vs Dolph Ziggler, Mike Knox, Drew Mclntrye, Chavo & The Miz
Posted By: Tom (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 06:45 PM
Forget the title matches and add these three other matches:
Michelle McCool, Beth, Alicia Fox, Natayla & Jillian Hall vs Mickie James, Maria, Kelly Kelly, Melina & Layla
Christian, Goldust, Tommy Dreamer, Tyler Reks & Yoshi Tatsu vs William Regal, Paul Burchill, Ezekial Jackson, Valdmir Kozlov & Zack Ryder
and your main event
Triple H, Shawn Michaels, John Cena, Undertaker & Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho, Big Show, CM Punk, Batista & Kane
Posted By: Tom (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 07:22 PM
The problem with elimination matches is that there usually isn't enough time to make them realistic. If you have a 5 on 5 match you're gonna have anywhere from 5 to 9 eliminations. Even if the match goes 20 minutes, you'll have eliminations roughly every 2-4 minutes.
Posted By: Bob (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 08:33 PM
I think that the elimination matches go on too long for today's wrestling fans. One of two things have to happen.... you either have to have really quick unbelievable eliminations to get the match done within a reasonable amount of time, or the match goes on too long for today's ADD wrestling audience. Even though they have done a lot of gimmick ppv's lately, I don't think the WWE wants to stack an entire card with the same type of match all the way through. Also, I think people are more likely to pay for an event if there are title matches. Personally, I would like to see an event that consisted of all elimination tag matches. I don't think most people would want to see it though.
Posted By: Brach McRae (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 10:24 PM
The show lost its luster when they started moving away from the team-oriented aspect of the show and adding singles matches. If they geared the entire show around tag team elimination matches then it might regain what made it special and even draw better. One of the biggest problems WWE has is that its PPVs all look and play out the same since they use the same format for every show. Deviating from that format occasionally not only helps the one-off show you're doing stand out, but it also helps to keep your normal formula fresh since the audience isn't getting burned out on it. It also helps stretch out feuds and keep guys away from each other long enough that you don't waste fresh match-ups simply because you've run through every alternative.
Posted By: Guest#5351 (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 10:51 PM
The Survivor Series evolution is a reason why WWE as a whole needs to go back to some of the old school way of doing things, to freshen the product up.
Posted By: gwpbrian (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 10:57 PM
SS sucks Bragging Rights sounds better to me and easier to brand..its raw vs smackdown.
SS is mega old school and so is the Royal Rumble.
They should make the MITB a seperate event and get rid of the royal rumble.
KOTR should be bough back as a one night tourney.MMA fans could get into that.
But is SS/RR is old news.I wanna see starcade and halloween havoc brought back.
Posted By: MacDollarz. (Guest) on November 05, 2009 at 02:47 AM
the wwf/e wasn't always the steaming pile of shit it is today. the Rumble and the Survivor Series were my favorite matches. no Wargames could touch them. one of my greatest dissapointments about wrestling came with Survivor Series 92 (although I loved Perfect kicking Flairs and Ramons asses...)
Flair/DiBiase/Mountie/Warlord vs Hitman/Piper/Virgil/Bulldog is still one of my favorite matches
- that match could have gone for 3 hours and it would have been still awesome
- all the faces were GREAT babyfaces (Virgil too, yeah) and all the heels deserved to be hated
- The Mountie was having the time of his life
- Warlord and Bulldog could only be eliminated by cheating
- Piper got to beat up Flair
- Virgil got to beat up DiBiase
- Bret Hart outwrestled everybody
- Flairs shitty win put him over the top as a chickenshit and made him ready to win the Rumble
good wrestlers, good booking, good times.
Posted By: tully (Guest) on November 05, 2009 at 08:27 AM
I was SO pissed when they put that tournament for the WWF title at the Survivor Series in 98, because I knew that was the end of the classic format we saw.
Having the traditional survival tag matches is such a positive thing, because it gives more time to each match, and on top of that can create new feuds and face/heel turns (ya know, 2 teammates have a miscommunication and fight it out, etc.)
They could bring it back this year if they're smart about it, even with the triple threat matches. They can say that since it's Survivor Series, they're going to have the 2 Triple Threats for the main event titles be Elimination Triple Threat matches, and have their be 2 pinfalls in the Triple Threat instead of 1. At least it makes sense with the whole theme of the PPV...or at least the theme it used to be.
Posted By: Jason King (Guest) on November 05, 2009 at 08:47 AM
I don't think quick eliminations are necessarily unbelievable, providing there are some mismatches on the team. This is why the old matches would include someone like Koko B Ware in the main event. Sure, he was popular, but you knew he would be the first eliminated when he ran into a Dino Bravo, but you also knew Dino Bravo was no match for Hulk or the Warrior.
The early eliminations gave a chance for the lower card to showcase what they could do, but also build the mystique of the main eventers. Blue Blazer would go for a couple of minutes against Mr Perfect, showing off the lucha moves NOONE was doing back then, but a perfectplex later and Hennig looked a million dollars.
Throw a Santino, Zac Ryder or Chavo on a team and you have a good worker who can take a few moves before you move onto the big boys...
Posted By: Ray Church (Guest) on November 05, 2009 at 10:31 AM
i think they should take the survivors of the elimination matches and the winners of the other matches and have them in some sort of bunkhouse stampede in the main event so one wrsetler can be named the Survivor of the night. Sort of like how king of the ring used to be.
Posted By: Guest#4905 (Guest) on November 05, 2009 at 04:00 PM
how about this match up
Randy Orton, Ted Dibase, Cody Rhodes, David Hart Smith & Tyson Kidd vs Kofi Kingston, MVP, Mark Henry, JTG & Shad Gaspard
Posted By: Tom (Guest) on November 04, 2009 at 06:35 PM
So Team Orton against Kofi and the entire black roster minus R-Truth?
Posted By: Steve (Guest) on November 05, 2009 at 08:59 PM
No way. R-truth could lead team afro to the ring with that catchy little song WHATS UP WHATS UP...PEOPLE OVER THERE WHATS UP...PEOPLE EVEYR WHERE WHATS UP.
Posted By: Old School Fan (Guest) on November 06, 2009 at 02:31 PM
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