411 PPV Roundtable Preview: WWE Survivor Series 2009
Posted by Stephen Randle on 11.21.2009
The annual Survivor Series PPV is almost here! The Undertaker defends the World Title against Chris Jericho and The Big Show, John Cena defends the WWE Title against HHH and HBK, Team Orton battles Team Kofi under traditional Survivor Series tag team rules and more! Check out 411’s complete WWE Survivor Series Roundtable for all the details and join us Sunday night for live coverage of the show!
Introduction:
With (fake American) Thanksgiving just around the corner, you know it has to be time for WWE's own version of the November tradition, that being the Big Four PPV known as Survivor Series. This year, traditional Survivor Series matches make their return with a vengeance, as three of the multi-man elimination format bouts will be on the card. In addition, on the heels of turning on his best friend Rey Mysterio at Bragging Rights, Batista will look to exercise some lack of restraint against WWE's ultimate underdog. Plus, both World titles are on the line in triple threat matches, as The Undertaker faces the dominant Unified Tag Team champions JeriShow, while John Cena takes on the always dangerous D-Generation X.
And with that said, here's the 411 Staff that hasn't already gone into hibernation for the winter, with their thoughts on the upcoming show.
The Staff
Stephen Randle, The Wrestling News Experience
Ari Berenstein, Column of Honor
Julian Bond, Against the Grain
Chad Nevett, High Road/Low Road
J. Alexander Mitchell, 411Politics' Roundtable
Chris Lansdell, Sparkling Vampire
Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Match
John Morrison, Matt Hardy, Evan Bourne, Shelton Benjamin and Finlay
vs.
The Miz, Drew McIntyre, Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger
Stephen Randle: Frankly, aside from Morrison, Miz, Sheamus and Swagger, these teams are built up of guys who lose more than they win. Looking at that lineup, I'd say Miz's team has a distinct advantage in that regard, and I expect this to be the shortest match, with fast and furious eliminations. I'd look for Sheamus to do something that gets him DQ'd and Miz and Swagger to cost each other the match, leaving Morrison standing tall.
Winner: Team Morrison
Ari Berenstein: I'm glad that WWE scheduled these traditional elimination matches on the pay per view this year--they aren't always a guarantee to be booked, even though it was the original concept of the show dating back to 1987. I really wish the mini-rivalry that was happening during the build to Bragging Rights between Miz and Morrison would have been built up more on the way to this match--they are after all, team captains. That said, both teams are well-built and even, which means I think we're in for more a pinball of eliminations, rather than one team taking a decisive advantage. Let's go with McIntyre and Finlay brawling uncontrollably for a double DQ, Sheamus eliminates Bourne, Hardy rolls up Sheamus from behind, Swagger steals Miz's glory to eliminate Shelton, Miz pushes Swagger into a Twist of Fate for an elimination by Hardy, Ziggler eliminates Hardy and Morrison rallies from 2 against one to eliminate Ziggler and then Miz. Morrison avenges the Bragging Rights loss.
Winner: TEAM MORRISON--Sole Survivor: John Morrison
Julian Bond: This shoud hopefully be good. Assuming that since Morrison lost last month that he and his team picks up a win here.
Winner: Team Morrison
Chad Nevett: Team Morrison definitely looks more impressive than Team Miz with Hardy, Benjamin, and Finlay as veterans against a team populated almost entirely by rookies/newer guys. That said, I think Team Miz will do alright with it eventually coming down to Matt Hardy and John Morrison against the Miz, Dolph Ziggler, and Jack Swagger. After Morrison gets eliminated, Hardy takes out Ziggler, and the Miz and Hardy go at it for a while with Swagger tagging himself in to 'steal' the final pin from the Miz, leaving them as the winners and still rivals.
Winner: Team Miz (Survivors: Miz and Jack Swagger)
J. Alexander Mitchell: Anyone that has played in my Smackdown vs Raw Story Designer stories (which have a thread in the Forums - Cheap Plug Cheap Plug!) knows that I am a HUGE mark for both Miz and Morrison. Toss in a number of the best of the next generation (Bourne, Swagger, Ziggler), and you have a formula for success. Logic and reasoning says to put over your real "young guns" (i.e. Team Miz), but I can't see John Morrison taking the loss to the Miz on consecutive Pay-Per-Views AND dropping the IC belt to Mr. Ziggles. So... I have to go with...
Winner: Team Morrison (Morrison and Finlay survive)
Lansdell, Sparkling Vampire: Of the two men's matches, this has the more impressive workrate lineup...but only just. There's tension throughout it which has been well developed when you consider that it's a match full of midcarders. There's tension between a few different combinations too. The team that wins will likely be the team led by the person NOT in line for the major push. I see it like this: Say Morrison is getting the push. Team Miz takes an early lead and it's 5-2. Morrison and, say, Matt Hardy put up a good fight and eliminate one person. Hardy goes quick, then Morrison takes out everyone but Miz and Ziggler. Ziggler pins him and there you go, Morrison looks strong in defeat and Ziggler gets a pin over his rival, from whom he will likely take the belt.
Winner: Team Miz (Ziggler last pins Morrison with a handful of tights/rope, Miz and Ziggler survive)
Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Match
Mickie James, Eve Torres, Kelly Kelly, Melina, and Gail Kim
vs.
Michelle McCool, Jillian Hall, Beth Phoenix, Layla and Alicia Fox
Stephen Randle: Nobody really cares, so let's pretend we do. This is Beth Phoenix's return to legitimate competition after effortlessly squashing jobbers (and hey, maybe WWE should think about hiring some of those jobbers, since they can actually wrestle), and I'd expect her to do all the heavy lifting here, pretty much running through the face team and re-establishing her total dominance of the division. Of course, McCool will also survive and take all the credit, and there's your title feud.
Winner: Team McCool
Ari Berenstein: It's a woman's match, which overall doesn't affect the WWE landscape either way. So you could have a face win to give the crowd something to be happy about; or the heels the win to push title contention issues. Eve and Kelly are the obvious weak links on the face side and hopefully will be kept limited to their spots and quickly eliminated. Layla is the lone weak diva on the heel side, with everyone else being adequate or better in the ring (Hall has been kept away from the ring, but she can do fine when called upon). Given how horrible Melina has been in the ring as of late, botching her moves left and right, I wouldn't be surprised to see her eliminated first in something of a "shocking" moment. Let's say it comes down to McCool and Phoenix against Mickie James, with both of them squabbling as to who gets to finish her off. McCool waylays Phoenix and tosses her out of the ring and uses the Faith Breaker on James for the win. Then McCool and Phoenix get into a pull-apart, setting up a Phoenix face turn of sorts. Yeah, this is actually an interesting twist, so don't expect it to happen, but that's how I'd do it.
Winner: Team McCool--Survivors: Michelle McCool and Beth Phoenix
Julian Bond: It's silly of me to keep doing this method for the last few women's matches...but they've been seriously lacking in the storyline department with everyone and thus makes me care a little less about watching them. So...with a coin flip...Team McCool
Winner: Team McCool
Chad Nevett: Since the heel Divas won at Bragging Rights, the face Divas win here to make up for that. I don't care enough to predict who survives.
Winner: Team Mickie
J. Alexander Mitchell: I may be the only person looking forward to this, but so be it. I think Kelly Kelly, Alicia Fox, and Eve Torres all have raised specific aspects of their in-ring abilities, so it is fascinating watching all three try to work towards becoming some sort of complete package. More to the point, it is very obvious that Beth Phoenix is being made into the "unstoppable force" in the Women's Division, and an inevitable run as a face against McCool. If I thought for a moment WWE cared about the Women enough to make an angle out of it, I would say that Team Mickie wins after miscommunication between Beth and Michelle. However, as logic and reasoning for the Divas would only play out in Story Designer Fantasy-land and not real life...
Winner: Team McCool (Beth Phoenix and Michelle McCool survive)
Lansdell, Sparkling Vampire: I hope Layla and Kelly Kelly go out early, making the match slightly more watchable. Really this could go either way (That's what she said) and make sense, but with Maryse about to come back she pretty much has to cost either Melina or Michelle a fall. Since Maryse left from Raw, and Raw has a face champ, and Maryse is a natural heel...
Winner: Team Michelle (Beth Phoenix survives, pins Melina via Maryse-ference)
Traditional Survivor Series Match
Kofi Kingston, Mark Henry, MVP, R-Truth and Christian
vs.
Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes, Ted DiBiase, William Regal and CM Punk
Stephen Randle: Well, here's the star-studded match. Again, the face team seems overstocked with guys who lose more than they win, and this time I see the cohesive team of Legacy being too much for an overmatched Kingston to overcome, as we pull the "Shawn Michaels comes from 3-1 down and nearly wins, but falls short" angle.
Winner: Team Orton
Ari Berenstein: Kofi has been handled incredibly well this past month and he has been set up as matching Orton on the "cerebral" game, but this match will be the real test to see if WWE can position Kofi as an equal to Orton in the ring. Everyone else is a backdrop to that story, unfortunately for Christian, Regal and CM Punk, who could have played a better part in setting up their roles in the elimination match. This is the match when I think you can book the huge babyface disadvantage and really push Kofi to make a huge comeback. Also, Orton's Survivor Series matches have come down to a 3-on-1 or greater advantage for his team several times in the past (Batista in '08 and Shawn Michaels in 2003). Christian eliminates William Regal with the KillSwitch. Kozlov and Jackson beatdown Christian, leaving him easy prey for CM Punk. Meanwhile Legacy takes the opportunity to jump Henry and MVP. Orton punts Henry for the elimination, then MVP is taken out as well. Punk gets R-Truth with the GTS and Kofi finds himself in 4 against 1 odds. Kofi gets Punk on a roll up and Rhodes with Trouble in Paradise. Miscommunication between Orton and DiBiase allows Kofi to eliminate DiBiase, bringing it to one-on-one with Orton. Kofi holds his own and kicks out of an RKO. He gets a Trouble in Paradise, but Rhodes and DiBiase for the distraction prevents the 3 count. Orton with a second RKO for the final elimination.
Winner: Team Orton--Sole Survivor: Randy Orton
Julian Bond: This should definitely be a good bout here. Me thinks that Kofi is left in some kind of a handicap situation as sole survivor (probably against Legacy/Orton), almost gets the wins, and then gets dropped by a good RKO.
Winner: Team Orton
Chad Nevett: Looking at both teams, I think Team Orton has a bit of an edge over Team Kingston. After a few eliminations, I predict it will come down to Kofi Kingston and Christian facing off against Randy Orton and CM Punk with Orton eliminating Kingston, Christian eliminating CM Punk, and Christian managing to take out Orton.
Winner: Team Kingston (Sole Survivor: Christian)
J. Alexander Mitchell: The buildup of Kofi Kingston takes precedence above all else. WWE desperately needs fresh Main Event players, and that is exactly what Randy Orton is doing for Kofi. In fact, my main thought is to have Kofi break Orton's version of "The Streak", as he is often the Sole Survivor in these things. As such, I say Kofi takes the win here before doing the eventual final job (during which he will get elevated in either case...)
Winner: Team Kofi (Kofi Kingston is the sole survivor)
Lansdell, Sparkling Vampire: This could be special, given time. Kofi is on a major roll right now and need to look dominant here, even if he loses to Orton in the end. Legacy and Team Kool-Aid will continue their feud here, with each one picking up a fall I reckon, and Regal and R-Truth are making up numbers. In fact, the trade might be Christian for R-Truth and someone else if the plan is to get Christian to SD. In that case look for Truth or Regal to get the pin on the other. I can see this coming down to Orton and Punk vs Kofi and Christian, with Kofi and Orton getting the double countout. Which leaves us with...
Winner: Team Kofi (Christian pins Punk and is sole survivor)
Rey Mysterio vs. Batista
Stephen Randle: Rey apparently needs surgery, and with Batista already threatening to pretty much destroy the smaller man, the angle is ready made for this to be an absolute slaughter for the Animal. Which is really a shame, since this is pretty much only the second angle involving Batista since he first won the World title that he hasn't been feuding over either the title itself or a shot at the title. Which begs the question, what's next for Batista?
Winner: Batista
Ari Berenstein: I expect this to be kept short and brutal. Rumors abound about Mysterio taking time for another knee surgery, so this could be the time to write him out and set up Batista against Taker for next month. I say Mysterio will get some surprisingly close pinfall attempts, but ultimately Batista gets him with the Batista Bomb for the three count. Not willing to settle for just the win, Batista unmercifully injures him post-match.
Winner: Batista
Julian Bond: Oh good lord!!! Batista is FINALLY heel once again...thank god! Bless the guy, but he's been way stale as a face for awhile and definitely is a good direction for him now as a heel. So here I believe he will murder Mysterio to continue their so-far pretty good feud.
Winner: Batista
Chad Nevett: Batista needs to sell his new heel character, Rey needs more surgery, sounds like a quick, violent squash to me, and that would be fantastic. You so rarely see one main eventer utterly dominate another and that's the perfect way to establish Big Dave as a monster heel that everyone should be afraid of.
Winner: Batista
J. Alexander Mitchell: Hmmm... Rey's hurt, and Undertaker will need a feud after dispatching Jerishow. I wonder how this turns out...
Winner: Rey Mysterio by Disqualification, after which Batista beats him into Recovery Time.
Lansdell, Sparkling Vampire: This should be interesting. Rey comes in as the huge underdog, as usual, and for me there's only so long that can go on before it gets tiring. Batista is over as a heel already, but an absolute demolition of Rey will put him in ther stratosphere of heeldom. It probably won't last long, and it will be all Batista with token flurries of speedy offence from Rey.
Stephen Randle: Conventional wisdom suggests that Taker walks out with the belt because there's really no reason to give it to either tag champ. However, the part of me that wants to be happy looks ahead to the next PPV and decides which of these three guys he'd rather see in a TLC match: the 500 pound behemoth, the 45-year old zombie coming off hip surgery, or one of the most versatile pro wrestlers in WWE. Hmmmmmmmm….
Winner: Chris Jericho
Ari Berenstein: Taker and Big Show is a hit-or-miss proposition, so it will be up to Jericho to guide this match through the possibly rough waters. Show and Jericho will likely work together for most of the match, with one miscommunication or two possibly testing their teamwork. Taker will find his way to the win here.
Winner: Undertaker retains the World Heavyweight Title.
Julian Bond: Taker and Show suprisingly tore it up last year in a good series of matches and with Jericho added to the mix, this should be just as good. With my thinking of Show/Jericho retaining the tag belts until Edge returns and Taker probably holding the belt for a few more until Batista takes it back (with myself giving a far FAR ahead prediction of Batista vs Cena II at Wrestlemania...calling it now!!), the result is a given.
Winner and STILL World Champion: The Undertaker
Chad Nevett: When this match was first announced with just the Big Show and the Undertaker, my girlfriend was really upset since that sounded rather bad, and I agreed. Adding Jericho to the mix really alters the dynamic and it's telling that the build up so far has focused on Jericho and the Undertaker with the Big Show only showing up in a way that a teammate/friend might, not someone who's also in the match. I expect this match to serve two purposes: create a divide in JeriShow and set up a Jericho/Undertaker feud, and the best way to do that is by having Jericho win by pinning the Big Show.
Winner and NEW World Heavyweight Champion: Chris Jericho
J. Alexander Mitchell: Notice how I dismissed Jerishow as winning above?
Winner: The Undertaker
Lansdell, Sparkling Vampire: At some point, Taker HAS to realise he's not doing anyone any favours by holding the belt. Sure he's the biggest name in the company (arguably), but he's broken down. The problem becomes, are you really giving the belt to one of the unified tag champs? Seems unlikely at this point, but who else on SmackDown is there? Are they going to hold off a month and let Batista beat Taker for the belt? Heck of a corner into which they have painted themselves, but if Dx-JeriShow IS on the radar, they only have one option. For my scenario to work, this has to be the final match.
Stephen Randle: So many ways to justify it, and I guess we should thank the Chavo-Hornswoggle feud for kickstarting the whole inane "DX vs the copyright infringing leprechaun" stuff that will ultimately cost them the match. Is the heel turn on for one or the other? Who knows at this point, but I've still got HHH vs HBK pencilled in for Mania for some reason, so let's crank up the tension a little. Anyway, Cena wins, but you already knew that.
Winner: John Cena
Ari Berenstein: The interview this past Monday where D-X said they would not turn on each other could mean the obvious axiom of the opposite will happen in pro-wrestling. I think this may have been a red herring though and we'll see more of the typical WWE three-way booking, with one member of D-X being hurt or taken out while the other is left to go head-to-head against Cena. I say Cena retains with the Attitude Adjustment on HBK. Another possibility could be that Jericho and Big Show, miffed that they didn't get their piece of the action, interfere in this match to prevent D-X from succeeding where they failed. That could be used to set up a tag title match at next month's PPV. But who am I kidding? WWE still doesn't like to push their tag division like they ought to--and D-X has always acted like they were above the tag team titles (see 2006 against The Spirit Squad) even though it would be a really cool moment to see them win it against anyone, but most especially Jerishow. Oh yeah, there's also the fact that D-X attacked Hornswogglethemidget, who will likely make his way out during this match (oh I can't wait!!!! (Yes I can)) and do something stupid to exact some revenge. Hooray.
Winner: John Cena retains the WWE Title
Julian Bond: This other Triple Threat should be good as well with the past with all three (despite the 100th combination of Cena vs HHH...again!!!). My crazy brain thinks that Cena is probably going to hold onto the belt for the long haul to set-up some kind of crazy World Title vs World Title match at Wrestlemania against Batista. But even if my crazy prediction doesn't come true, me thinks Cena will retain the belt at least for a couple more months.
Winner and STILL WWE Champion: John Cena
Chad Nevett: Much like the initial announcement of Taker/Big Show, this one was a surprise, but it's grown on me. An all face triple threat match means we should probably expect someone from DX to turn heel here to betray their partner. They've really been pushing the whole DX as a unit angle and that they'll be happy with either one winning the belt, so that seems like a logical point of friction in the match itself at some point. I'm predicting Michaels to betray Trips after the two of them take out Cena. Michaels's second run in the WWE has been almost exclusively a face run, so he's due to turn heel and it could be played as an ego-driven move to stop being the goofy sidekick and reassert himself as the Showstopper while evoking his '90s self.
Winner and NEW WWE Champion: Shawn Michaels
J. Alexander Mitchell: This one is the only toughie. My thought right now is that Randy Orton is the only top-tier heel on Raw. That means someone has to turn. The question is only "Trips or Michaels". And in that... there is no question - HHH and Michaels lose, and the lure of the title is enough to make HHH drop the glow-sticks...
Winner: John Cena
Lansdell, Sparkling Vampire: Despite the fact that the build for this has centered on a leprechaun who is wearing DX merchandise without paying for it despite a legal injunction (man, what happened to fighting because you didn't like the other guy?), this match can be all sorts of awesome. HBK is great, and both Cena and HHH can put on very good matches with the right person or when motivated. If my theory is correct, Cena holds on here.
Winner: John Cena (pins HHH, JeriShow-ference)
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we know you idiots love jericho.. but do you have to undermine taker's capabilities this low?
wake up.. taker is a proven draw unlike Jericho.
Posted By: point of gain (Guest) on November 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM
It's times like this I wish that Ted Dibiase had never put Undertaker on his Survivor Series team 19 years ago.
Posted By: some guy (Guest) on November 20, 2009 at 11:11 PM
I'm actually really looking forward to this PPV, every match looks good and I don't really mind whatever the outcomes are, my only hope is Kofi is made to look strong, anyway, I'll go with:
Cena
Taker
Team Orton
Team Morrison
Batista
Babyface Divas
Posted By: Guest#7573 (Guest) on November 20, 2009 at 11:17 PM
ted jr to end the streak at wm26
Posted By: Guest#4027 (Guest) on November 20, 2009 at 11:36 PM
I liked Chad Nevett's take on Shawn Micheals turning heel and winning the title. That would be a truly shocking swerve that WWE is in dire need of. It might be a little far-fetched though considering Hornswoggle's nonsense has to be involved but I would like to see it happen and nobody would see it coming. Shawn is def. due to turn heel!
Posted By: trollfail (Guest) on November 20, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Ever since the spinnerbelt 3way was announced and with the DX split inevitable, I've had a notion how to end the match. Rather than do the partners turning on eachother or the SuperCena bit, how about this?..
The match could end in a double pin situation, with both DX members having some sort of cover on Cena. If done correctly(big if), the possible scenarios for afterwards are filled with potential. Rather than splitting DX straight away, this could be used as a vehicle to further slow burn the split with the disputed title adding to the intrigue. As for what to do with the title, perhaps Shawn/HHH at the next ppv. Or a better scenario could be they have a match on Raw the next night which Shawn wins. He goes to face Cena at the next ppv and they slowly turn HHH setting up the future DX fued. Shawn could hold the belt through Mania, HHH wins the Rumble and all the pieces just fall into place. Just a thought.
Posted By: gbh1978 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Michaels and Big Show won world titles at Survivor Series 2002. I think the same will happen at Survivor Series 2009.
Posted By: Good Guest (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Wow, only 6 people for one of the WWE's "big 4"? I like Team Morrison, Team McCool, Team Orton (Orton sole-survivor yet again), Batista (though I could see a reversed decision if he keeps beating the tar out of Rey post-match), Taker, Michaels.
While it seems like Batista may be headed for a championship match at TLC, I figure they will want to go for him going over there, and so I won't pick Jericho there, since I don't know that they want to hot-shot the belt around some more.
Posted By: Guest#0125 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 12:37 AM
I make my return at the PPV and will win both World Titles. It will be a one shot deal.
Posted By: Bam Neely (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 01:17 AM
Thank god the writers on this site are smarter than the people that post comments. I know that nobody cares about the divas match, but it's pretty obvious how it should, and hopefully will, go down. Beth Phoenix dominates the match, but somehow McCool will take most of the credit. Beth gets pissed, and there's your babyface turn. She's shown enough personality lately to pull it off.
Anybody that thinks Mickie is going to keep getting pushed needs to realise the only "push" she is in for is a push out the door. Oink oink Piggy, hope the music career treats you well.
Posted By: Guest#9525 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 01:51 AM
You know next month's TLC PPV is in HBK's hometown?
Cena defends against HBK. Nuff said.
Posted By: Obvious (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 01:59 AM
This is a pretty damn strong card. Every match could be really good in its own way (it'll be interesting to see how much Batista will squash Rey on his way out to surgery again, and the divas match is my piss break/food refill), and a lot of team dynamic s in both the SvS and title matches could make for a lot of fun
Posted By: Milkmanv1 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 02:19 AM
I'll go down the list real quick
Team Orton(Orton sole survivor)
Team Miz(Miz/Drew M.)
Heel Divas
Batista
HBK
Taker
I feel pretty good about my picks. I picked team Miz over Morrison because Sheamus/Drew are getting pushed on raw/Smackdown and most of morrison's partners are in career limbo (mainly finlay/benjamin) even though I am a huge fan of theirs
Posted By: Timmy-O (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 02:45 AM
i wish jericho wins the world heavyweight championship because he deserves it (no disrespect to 'Taker. then jericho can brag about holding three championship belts at the same time.
Posted By: Guest#6363 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 05:12 AM
if the WWE want to rebuild their tag division then we already have Hart Dynasty and Cryme Tyme as the real tag teams.
DX, JeriShow and The Brothers of Destruction should all be kept away from the main event scene and help to build up this division. MVP and Mark Henry could also make an appearance too
Posted By: qwerty (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 05:52 AM
and even though there not the best in the world, Kovlov and Zeke too
Posted By: qwerty (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 05:53 AM
Cant see a turn yet from DX. They will take out Cena, do the old "I respect you, you respect me, lets go!" bit, till Cena comes back. I think if one turns it will be a slow burner, really kicking off at the Rumble. Maybe Shawn playing Hogan's role in a rehash of the 1992 Rumble finish to really hammer the point home. If either are going to turn I hope its Shawn.
Posted By: Mentalist (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 06:12 AM
I see Sheamus disqualified for his violence or being one of the two survivors for Team Miz (with Drew or Swagger).
I don't care about the Divas
Team Orton must win to launch Legacy and next month Randy will job to Kofi in a one on one at TLC.
Taker wins and will lose to Batista at TLC or RR, Cena retains and will defend at TLC vs Cody vs Ted in a TLC, DX vs Jerishow at TLC when Hunter will turn on Shawn. HHH wins the belt at the Rumble, Shawn gets the rumble match and the gold at Mania.
Wrestlemania:
HHH-HBK
Cena-Taker
Orton-Batista (Randy turns face next year)
Edge-Y2J
CM Punk-Hardy
Shak vs Show confrontation and much more (Danielson, Christian, Swagger, Legacy, MVP, Morrison, Miz, Finley, Kane)
Posted By: Max (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 08:32 AM
Hey, what ever happened to that face turn that they practically had everyone begging for a few months ago for Ted Jr? Since that night, there hasn't even been an inkling of that situation. Did Kofi get Ted's spot in that fued?
Posted By: Dave 3:16 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 08:42 AM
(fake American) Thanksgiving? What the hell is that?
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM
dx really beats the shite out of cena then shows up at final resolution dec.2o to join the band!
Posted By: vince russo (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM
How about a heel michaels with the returning lance cade by his side? i dont expect a turn tomorrow because its too long before mania. . . but the wheels should be set in motion
Posted By: Legend (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 11:24 AM
I'm totally underwhelmed by this card. The triple threats are stale (HHH vs Cena again? Big Show vs Taker again?), the traditional survivor series matches seem pointless and thrown together for the sake of it. The only thing that interests me is Batista vs Rey.
Posted By: Guest#5441 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Could this be a good PPV??? Don't count on it...My predictions
1. Team Morrison wins--Payback for B. Rights (might steal the show)
2. The popcorn vender will be the real winner here and so will the Raw Divas--Payback for B. Rights
3. Nation of Domination wins--Thus keeps the feud going (Kofi and Orton will continue despite what I have posted below)
4. Batista wins, then goes all Grim-Lock and smashes Rey, decision is overturned....Rey wins and is out again.
5. The Big Slow steals it from Y2J thanks to.....Kane--4 way TLC match with Taker/Kane/Y2J/Slow.
6. Hmmm knowing Vince and the backstage politics, HHH and HBK will win and pin Cena at the same time...yes I am calling it--Cena/HBK/HHH/Orton at TLC for the Title. Orton will say on Raw Monday Night that he has a right to a title shot, because Cena is not the champ anymore (don't look for Orton to win at TLC, because of Kofi).
Posted By: KT (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 12:14 PM
It really sickens me that several writers don't care enough to give predictions. Douche, it's a job.
Posted By: Guest#7043 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Chad if your "girlfriend" likes wrestling she might as well be imaginary.
Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 01:08 PM
Undertaker
HBK
Batista
Morrison
Orton + Punk
McCool + Phoenix
Posted By: hitmanstud (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 01:21 PM
"the divas match is my piss break/food refill"
Just type "Ew, girls, cooties" next time. It'd be much easier.
Posted By: Guest#0932 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 02:29 PM
This is sort of unrelated. But did anybody see the recent clip of Matt Hardy and Mickie James on some New York talk show? That surely should have been posted on this site. The fat jokes would write themselves. I wonder if that was another rib by WWE.
Posted By: Guest#9908 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 02:54 PM
So if Cena and Taker win(what I think wil happen), Who do Jeri-show and Cena face at TLC?
Posted By: Jonah (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 04:30 PM
"Traditional Survivor Series Match
Kofi Kingston, Mark Henry, MVP, R-Truth and Christian
vs.
Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes, Ted DiBiase, William Regal and CM Punk
Stephen Randle: Well, here's the star-studded match."
oh my, Randle, that was the funniest line ever!
Posted By: tully (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 04:43 PM
gonna have a stab at it myself
Cena
Taker
Batista
Team Orton
Team McCool
miz v Morisson is a tough call, by the teams I would think Miz but I'm gonna gamble and say Morrison
Posted By: me (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 06:06 PM
I'm surprised by how many people are completely ignoring next month's PPV. It's been mentioned but not nearly enough. The PPV is called TLC and people are still calling 'Taker vs. Batista for the title next month? Come on. Doesn't the idea of those two trying to climb up ladders together seem silly? 'Taker could barely do it against Edge and he's injured now.
Unless they do a tables match or the stips are saved for the secondary titles there's no way Batista vs. 'Taker is happening at the next PPV.
Posted By: Tom Talker (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 06:32 PM
My picks
John Cena
Undertaker
Batista
Team Kingston
Team Miz
Anyone who studied Economics knows why Shawn Michaels,Big Show and Jericho can't win the World Title.
Since HBK doesn't do heel,Smackdown or jobbing they should give him the World Title and do the final match between him and HHH at Wrestlemania... with the latter as the heel,if the roles are reversed all the better.
Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 06:32 PM
The DX/Hornswoggle angle has pretty much killed off any chance of a WWE Title change at Survivor Series - oh well, maybe someone can 'accidently' injure Cena at TLC and put him out of action forever.
Posted By: JAK (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 06:59 PM
Me thinks the phrase 'me thinks' is completely obnoxious.
Shut the fuck up and quit trying to be cute.
Posted By: Guest#5687 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 08:09 PM
"the divas match is my piss break/food refill"
Just type "Ew, girls, cooties" next time. It'd be much easier.
Posted By: Guest#0932 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 02:29 PM
Yes, because if you can't appreciate divas matches, there must be something wrong with you. I mean, you can see how excited the fans in attendance are every time the girls come out. Literally on the edge of their seats. In fact, they are so loud and enthusiastic that all the noise gets sucked up into a vacuum, giving the illusion that the arena is silent and nobody fucking cares.
Posted By: Guest#0825 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 08:10 PM
This is sort of unrelated. But did anybody see the recent clip of Matt Hardy and Mickie James on some New York talk show? That surely should have been posted on this site. The fat jokes would write themselves. I wonder if that was another rib by WWE.
Posted By: Guest#9908 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 02:54 PM
Ribs? Who said ribs?
Posted By: Fatt Hardy & Piggy James (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 08:11 PM
Man, Landsell helped me realize that it was Hornswoggle who freaking gave Triple H and HBK a title shot in the first place and he gets pedigreed for his troubles. I feel so sad for Hornswoggle :(
Posted By: Phil (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 08:38 PM
Has it been that long since the "HHH lost the belt in a Triple Threat match, but it was a double pin so the title is held up (just long enough for HHH to win it back and add one to his title count without the bother of having somebody else in the spotlight)" match? That seems like a way to get the belt off of Undertaker without putting it on one of the tag champs.
(Here's a thought; announce that the Rumble winner can either wrestle for the WWE or ECW belts at WM, or be given the World belt and defend it at WM.)
Posted By: ThatDonGuy (Registered) on November 21, 2009 at 09:31 PM
Team Miz is interesting, considering all it's members have been in a high profile angles as of late, and will win. Morrison will fight from deficit and barely lose. It's seems he's the next HBK, at least from his push.
Women's Match. That's what TNA is for.
Team Nation of Domination with Christian as Owen Hart will fall, with some surprising domination by Team Orton (and lots of cheating).
Rey in another injury angle. Batista repackaged as heel, which will get old quicker than you think, loses by DQ. But you guys aren't stupid.
Taker retains. Not because JeriShow can't have three belts (the tag belts are really one belt which is worth about zero belts), Show is just no sort of champ and Jericho is better utilized as the MVP of WWE.
Cena wins. Duh. Seriously, I don't think any heel turn, just a tease for tickets. If you split DX, what face tag-team is there? For that matter, what tag team is left? And for that matter, does it matter?
Posted By: ThePants (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM
This show is gonna tank
Posted By: Guest#7124 (Guest) on November 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Cena
Taker
Team Orton
Team Morrison
Batista
Heel Divas
Posted By: Dwayne (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 02:34 AM
Everyone seems to have Orton as the sole survivor. But wouldn't it be better if they set it down to a 4-1 and Kingston pins Punk, and then shockingly pins Orton only to have Dibiase and Rhodes double team him for the victory. That would set up a burn for the Legacy turn along nicely.
Also, if either member of DX are going heel it's Triple H. He's been a face for 3.5 years. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get the win here and then beat the tar out of Shawn after he earns a shot for Mania.
Posted By: G (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 03:03 AM
Let's see.
Team Miz - I'm not 100% on this one, but it just seems after Morrison's Friday night win he'll be losing. They need to get the belt off Undertaker and feud Jericho with Morrison for the World Title.
Team McCool - WWE Divas are nice eye candy with a few who can wrestle. I could care less about this one really. but I had to pick somebody. McCool and Phoenix are two of the best that WWE has, which is probably why they'll end up losing.
Mysterio - I know it seems like Batista will win, but I see Rey pulling a fluke upset. Then Batista beats the hell out of him afterward.
Team Orton - All that jobbing and looking weak is leading to an Orton win and the feud between Orton and Kofi will continue as it should.
Undertaker - If a title changes hands, it will be this one to Jericho, but I don't see it happening. If Jericho wins, get ready for DX as tag team champs.
Cena - Cena won't be losing, nor should he. I'm more interested in knowing who WWE will put against him other than DX or Orton.
I'm getting bored with the WWE title picture. It needs a shakeup, in my opinion. But with ratings holding steady, it probably won't come soon.
Hoping for a good and safe show for all the wrestlers.
Posted By: Guy Incognito (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 05:02 AM
"Team Nation of Domination with Christian as Owen Hart will fall"
Damn that that sentence could have been written better.... 'Owen Hart will fall'.
Posted By: Tim (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 07:15 AM
I LOVE watching HOT girls that CAN wrestle.So i'm looking forward seeing Melina,Beth,Michelle,Gail,Mickie,Alicia,and Layla wrestle.It's going to be a great night.
Posted By: Peter (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 12:22 PM
How about Lance Cade and Brian Danielson interfering on HBKs behalf to turn him AND give him the title?
That's what I would like to see......
Posted By: The Truth of it All (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 01:04 PM
the card is not exciting enough for me to order, especially after the last two TNA ppvs,, i only buy one a month and lately they have been from tna
Posted By: 45 (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 02:38 PM
i say that if tlc is really the next ppv the y2j takes the belt cuz we all kown big show cant do it and taker is a risk factor so u only have 1 other choice the back 2 back superstar of the year yeah im calling it now as for dx cena im going with hbk they been hinting to a possible split for some time while if u read between the lines with the whole trip is batman and hbk is robin jokes they been throwing around and the little argument the had when dusty was raw gm and brought up a possible title match for one of them and it is an all face match and raw has no top leave heels trip is the obvious choice so i say hbk turns and takes the belt
Posted By: Guest#1667 (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 02:39 PM
"Yes, because if you can't appreciate divas matches, there must be something wrong with you. I mean, you can see how excited the fans in attendance are every time the girls come out. Literally on the edge of their seats. In fact, they are so loud and enthusiastic that all the noise gets sucked up into a vacuum, giving the illusion that the arena is silent and nobody fucking cares."
Most of the non-main eventers get the samw treatment for live audiences. Pop for babyface's entrance, not much heat for the heel, pops for good looking spots but no reaction to the rest of the match.
The only difference is that silence from the crowd is used to bash the Divas, while midcarders are often considered to be underappreciated by "ignorant" live audiences when they don't get a reaction.
Posted By: Guest#1938 (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 03:03 PM
I love how the usual cynics are shooting this down already...seriously... I, myself, am quite excited for this PPV, and agree it's a solid card. Not getting my hopes up about anything, just going to enjoy it, and PRAY HBK turns heel...He teases with it so much, just fucking do it...half of us here in canada are still bitter bitches, and will boo him...me, I'll still cheer.
Posted By: CC Fanboy (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 05:11 PM
the return of king booker
team orton
team miz
big show (help from booker)
tlc jericho show
ray via countout
hhh
heel divas
Posted By: parker (Guest) on November 22, 2009 at 07:53 PM
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