411Mania's Squared Circle News Report 11.28.09
Posted by Dustin James on 11.28.2009
Discussion of Jim Ross and his contract status, WWE souring on Jack Swagger as a future star, last weekend's Survivor Series show, some guy named "Deacon Batista," the top 10 best WWE DVDs of all-time and much more!
Welcome back inside the Squared Circle! How is everyone doing this week? I'm personally feeling like I put on an extra twenty pounds thanks to the wonderful holiday known as Thanksgiving. I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving. I did, but I usually do! There's just something about a holiday where all that's required to do is eat and gain weight that I just love!. Anyway, I have some good news and some bad news for you this week. The good news is, I'm here to bust out this column for you....even though I had MAYBE two hours of spare time to write this thing out thanks to my family being in town. The bad news is, this column will be extremely shorter than normal thanks to the lack of news this week (seriously....there was NOTHING) and my lack of time. It's all good though as I'm sure I can find something to talk about!
So, there's a HUGE college football game coming up this week for anyone who lives in the state of Oregon. The Civil War game will be played this Thursday and will feature the University of Oregon battling those lowlife Oregon State Beavers for a chance to go to the ROSE BOWL~! This is big for the state of Oregon seeing as it's the first time the winner of the Civil War gets a guaranteed spot in the Rose Bowl! As you can tell, I'm rooting for the Ducks! I'm happy as a clam to finally see USC go down in the Pac-10 and it's about time for the Ducks to fly over the rest of the conference! GO DUCKS~!!!
Anyways.......
LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!
Biggest News Of The Week:
Survivor Series Results......
Who walked away victorious at the WWE's "Thanksgiving Tradition" show?......
Well, another Thanksgiving has passed us by and you know what that means! It means another "Survivor Series" has come and gone and I must say....overall, it was a pretty decent show. The WWE was able to push some new talent and establish some good storylines in the process. We are almost to the "Road To WrestleMania" so it's important for the WWE to catch on fire right now and it seems like they are well on their way to doing just that..........
Traditional Survivor Series Match:
Team Miz: The Miz, Jack Swagger, Drew McIntyre, Sheamus, and Dolph Ziggler
def.
Team Morrison: John Morrison, Matt Hardy, Finlay, Shelton Benjamin, and Evan Bourne
Order of Elimination:
- Evan Bourne eliminated Dolph Ziggler
- Drew McIntyre eliminated Evan Bourne
- Sheamus eliminated Finlay
- John Morrison eliminated Jack Swagger
- The Miz eliminated Shelton Benjamin
- Drew McIntyre eliminated Matt Hardy
- Sheamus eliminated John Morrison
Sole Survivors: Sheamus, The Miz, and Drew McIntyre
Poor Jack Swagger. While it seems the WWE has soured on "The All-American, American", the exact opposite can be said for guys like Drew McIntyre and Sheamus. The thing about McIntyre and Sheamus is this.....they have people with power backing up their pushes (HBK and HHH) and thus they will most likely be on our TV screens for ALONG time. It's all good though considering the WWE is in desperate need of pushing new stars, and it seems like we are well on our way down that path.
Traditional Survivor Series Match:
Team Mickie: Mickie James, Gail Kim, Melina, Kelly Kelly, and Eve Torres
def.
Team McCool: Michelle McCool, Beth Phoenix, Layla, Alicia Fox, and Jillian Hall
Order of Elimination:
- Kelly Kelly eliminated Layla El
- Michelle McCool eliminated Gail Kim
- Eve Torres eliminated Jillian Hall
- Beth Phoenix eliminated Eve Torres
- Beth Phoenix eliminated Kelly Kelly
- Mickie James eliminated Beth Phoenix
- Mickie James eliminated Alicia Fox
- Melina eliminated Michelle McCool
Sole Survivors: Mickie James and Melina
YAAAAAWWNNNNN. Did anyone actually ever care about this match? I didn't care about it when it was announced and I actually cared about it less once I sat down to watch it! NEXT~!
Traditional Survivor Series Match:
Team Kofi: Kofi Kingston, Christian, R-Truth, Mark Henry, and MVP
def.
Team Orton: Randy Orton, Ted DiBiase, Cody Rhodes, CM Punk, and William Regal
Order of Elimination:
- Randy Orton eliminated Mark Henry
- CM Punk eliminated R-Truth
- Christian eliminated Ted DiBiase
- MVP eliminated William Regal
- Cody Rhodes eliminated MVP
- Christian eliminated Cody Rhodes
- Randy Orton eliminated Christian
- Kofi Kingston eliminated CM Punk
- Kofi Kingston eliminated Randy Orton
Sole Survivor: Kofi Kingston
Wow, was I WAY off with my prediction for this one or what? In case you don't remember, I actually picked Randy Orton to be the sole survivor of this match, little did I know that the WWE was actually going to follow through with their little mini push of Kofi Kingston. This was a fun match to watch and easily the best out of the 3 "traditional" Survivor Series matches. Let's hope Kofi can really start to take off this next year as even I have to admit.....I like the dude.
Batista
def.
Rey Mysterio
I couldn't have predicted this match ANY MORE correct than I did. I mentioned that Batista should get a pretty easy victory and then go "BAT SHIT CRAZY" on Rey to extend the storyline until WrestleMania. It looks like they are heading down that road as long as Mysterio's knees can hold up. Seriously, by the time he retires....Mysterio's knees will be worse off than Terry Funk's. MARK MY WORDS!
World Title Match:
The Undertaker
def.
Chris Jericho
&
The Big Show
Another Survivor Series, another victory by The Undertaker. Now, expect Taker to feud with Jericho for the World Title until the WWE decides to kick off the rumored Undertaker/John Cena match for this year's WrestleMania......
WWE Title Match:
John Cena
def.
HHH
&
Shawn Michaels
Was it just me or was anyone else expecting this match to be a little better than it actually was? When you have HHH and HBK squaring off against each other, you are almost ALWAYS guaranteed a great time. Oh well, I guess that's the chance you take with a triple threat match. Either way, the result of this match went down exactly as I expected with Cena getting the win. It looks as though we may be getting the Cena/Undertaker "Title vs. Title" match at this year's WrestleMania and I must say.....put those two in a steel cage match and consider me EXCITED! I'm easy to please sometimes.....
Overall, this year's Survivor Series show wasn't bad by any means. The company is pushing some new stars (Sheamus, Kofi, etc) while slowly moving towards the "Road to WrestleMania". Its almost time for the WWE to turn it up and I can't wait! BRING THE ROYAL RUMBLE ON ALREADY~!!!!!
Remember This Guy???
Deacon Batista
Man, what the heck ever happened to this guy? Remember when the WWE had the "bright" idea of breaking up The Dudley Boys and pushing them as singles competitors? Well, remember when the WWE decided to turn D'Von Dudley into a reverend? Well, remember when Reverend D'Von was "managed" by this really huge dude who went under the name of "Deacon Batsita"? Of course you don't! Why? Because hopefully you have suppressed those memories enough to where you don't remember any of this (LUCKY YOU!).
I really would like to meet the guy who's bright idea it was to have someone with the look of Batista's manage Reverend D'Von. Better yet, I'd like to meet the guy who decided that the idea was good enough to put on television (HI VINCE!)......
Well, I guess the only good thing about the whole "Deacon Batista" thing was the fact that it didn't last all that long to begin with. Perhaps someone in the WWE "creative" offices noticed that maybe this wasn't the best gimmick for someone like Batista. That's probably a good thing to considering Batista is currently one of the most popular superstars on the WWE's roster. Really dodged that bullet didn't ya Vince???
THE DEBUT OF "DEACON BATISTA".......
Random News Bits:
- While the WWE seems to be on another "push new stars" kick, there is one guy who the WWE seems to be souring on. That is none other than "The All-American, American" Jack Swagger! I have no idea why, but the WWE seems to think that Swagger may not have the "it" factor after all and he may end up being just another ordinary mid-card guy in no time. Another guy who the WWE seems to be souring on is Dolph Ziggler. Expect his push to be slowed as well while the WWE concentrates on building up Kofi Kingston, Drew McIntrye, Sheamus, and Ted DiBiase.
- Kip James (aka Billy Gunn for you WWE fans) is out with a weird injury. Apparently he was bitten by his dog and needed ten stitches in his hand. Being the good reporter that I'm known to be, I actually contacted Gunn's dog and asked him why he bit everyone's favorite "Ass Man", and he only had the following to say.....
You know you got it bad when even your own dog hates you.
- Jim Ross' WWE contract is set to expire in about three weeks and contrary to reports, he has yet to sign a new deal. The WWE is reportedly waiting to see how JR's latest battle with bells palsy turns out before churning out a new deal. Once again Jim Ross gets a little bit disrespected by the WWE. Is anyone shocked? Perhaps if the WWE screws him again, Ross will return with a new "Kurt Angle" and a new "Mick Foley"......
- Davey Richards claims that he was offered a contract with the WWE recently and he turned it down. He even claimed that if he was offered another deal with the company he would turn it down AGAIN! Because that's how he rolls bitches! You have to admire someone who can resist the temptation of the WWE. Good for you Davey!
- There's currently a rumor going around that Shane McMahon has sold his stock in the WWE (around $50-$80 million dollars worth) so that he can buy into the UFC. However, those rumors are false considering the WWE would actually have to report the sale on it's WWE SEC Filing Page due to the fact that Shane is an officer of the company. As I said last week, Shane joining the UFC would be a tremendous move by Dana White and company. McMahon has great connections overseas and could really help boost the UFC's International market.
It's Christmas time so let's see how many Christmas-related top 10 lists I can pump out. I'll be starting with the top 10 best WWE DVD's (in my opinion!) of all-time. Why? Because a DVD is the perfect gift for a wrestling fan and these are the DVD's that I truly think are the best you have to offer from the WWE!.....
(PS: I did NOT include any DVD's that I have yet to see. Why? Because that would be stupid for me to rank something that I have never even seen. That will explain why something like Mr Perfect's DVD is not ranked here, just so you know.....)
This list is in a particular order......
Honorable Mention:
Heartbreak & Triumph - The Shawn Michaels Story
RAW 15th Anniversary
The Monday Night Wars
The SummerSlam Anthology
AND NOW.....THE TOP 10!!!!
10) Superstars of the 90's
This DVD is just filled with plenty of delicious goodness from 1990's WWE, do I really have to explain more? If you happened to be a fan of 1990's WWE, then you MUST watch this DVD. It will help remind you of a simpler time when RAW was taped once a month and you knew the results two weeks before the show aired.........
After seeing the commercial again, I actually want to watch the DVD again.......
9) Brian Pillman: Loose Cannon
Brian Pillman had one of the most controversial wrestling careers ever and this DVD reminds us as to how much potential Pillman had at one time. In the late 80's and early 90's, Pillman was widely regarded as one of the best up-and-comers in wrestling. Needless to say, he never fully reached his potential and this DVD helps explain why. I absolutely loved Pillman and I absolutely loved this DVD. Kudos to the WWE for making this treat for us......
Here's a good tribute to Brian Pillman.......
8) Ric Flair & The Four Horsemen
Do I REALLY have to explain this one? It's a DVD featuring plenty of delicious goodness courtesy of Ric Flair and The Four Horsemen. I'm pretty sure you can put two and two together and understand why this DVD is ranked here......
Here's the Horsemen cutting one of their great promos......
7) The Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior
Growing up a WWE fan, I was a massive fan of the Ultimate Warrior. While most people drooled all over that bum Hulk Hogan. I was a Warrior maniac~! As a youngster I could not figure out why the Warrior was never pushed as hard as Hulk Hogan and why the Warrior would disappear for a year....then return....then disappear.....then return. However, this DVD answers all those questions and more! It reminds us that the Warrior is actually not the sharpest knife in the drawer and that he's nuttier than squirrel turds. The WWE did a great job with this DVD as it really answered a lot of questions I had as a kid.
It's THE SELF DESTRUCTION OF THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR.........
6) Ultimate Ric Flair Collection
Ric Flair is one of the greatest performers in wrestling history. The man was due to get his own DVD one day and seeing as the WWE owns the entire WCW video tape library.....they made it happen! My only beef with this DVD is that there are plenty of killer matches that were left off. However, that is bound to happen when you release a DVD full of Flair matches. The man has had enough great matches to fill up 20+ DVD's, but I highly doubt we will ever get to see them all. What a shame too!
Ric Flair addresses the STINGER!.......
5) The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be
If you are a regular reader of this column, then you are more than well aware of my love for "The Hitman" Bret Hart. The man is one of the best EVER to step in a WWE ring and this DVD just reminds everyone of how great he was. While Hart's WWE career ended on a sour note, us "Hitman" fans can relive the good times of Hart's career with this wonderful DVD. THANK YOU WWE~!
The Bret Hart story, in his own words......
4) Cheating Death, Stealing Life, The Eddie Guerrero Story
Eddie Guerrero. The name alone can send chills down some people's spines. Guerrero happens to be one of the greatest performers in wrestling history, who died way before his time. This DVD showcases some of the best moments (as well as some of the worst moments) in the life and times of Eddie. If you happen to be a Guerrero fan who hasn't seen this DVD, go out and get it THIS INSTANT! Eddie remains one of the most popular figures in WWE history, and whenever I need a reminder as to how great he was......I just pop this DVD in.
The gravestone of the great Eddie Guerrero........
3) WrestleMania Anthology
Did you honestly think you would be able to read a "top 10 best WWE DVDs" list and NOT see the WrestleMania anthology listed on it? It's no secret that WrestleMania is the WWE's bread and butter PPV. Well, when the WWE announced that it was going to release every single WrestleMania ever on DVD....wrestling fans all over the world blew a massive load in unison. How could any wrestling fan NOT want a DVD set featuring every WrestleMania ever? YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE CRAZY TO NOT WANT THIS DVD~!
The WrestleMania Anthology would have nabbed the second spot on this list if it wasn't for another "anthology" set the WWE just had to release........
One of the greatest moments in wrestling history, EVER.............
2) Royal Rumble Anthology
Yes, that's right! I ranked the Royal Rumble Anthology ahead of the WrestleMania Anthology. Now, while people can be shot for this sort of thing in a third world country, let me explain myself. You see, I LOVE the Royal Rumble. It's easily my favorite PPV of the year by far. I have always been a sucker for battle royals, and I absolutely look forward to the Royal Rumble every year! Therefore, it should come as no surprise that I rank a collection of the WWE's January bash as the second best WWE DVD of all-time.........
It's THE ROYAL RUMBLE!!!!!............................
1) The Rise & Fall of ECW
In case you didn't know, I use to be a massive fan of ECW back in the day. There was something about this rebel promotion from Philadelphia where wrestlers were getting thrown into barbed wire and lighting themselves on fire that I just HAD TO SEE! The thing was, I had a hard time tracking it down. Back when ECW was really on fire, the Internet was just taking off, therefore it was still extremely hard to find stuff like videos, etc. So basically, keeping track of ECW was extremely hard to do and my only sources were tape traders, Apter mags, and the lovely Intraweb.
However, none of that matters anymore seeing as Vince McMahon has bought the ECW name and changed it into a product that I have absolutely no interest in today. But it's not like Vince totally screwed us old ECW fans though! No, he gave us the "Rise and Fall of ECW" DVD, which in my opinion is the best WWE DVD of all-time. I honestly think the WWE does a great job of telling the history of ECW (who would have thought?) and showcasing some of the promotions best matches. ECW helped usher in the "Attitude Era" in the WWE and it puts a smile on my face knowing that even the WWE can respect the memory of the "OLD" ECW.
Here's Terry Funk vs. Sabu in a BARBED WIRE MATCH! Warning.....this can be sort of hard to watch!
YouTube! Find Of The Week!
Who didn't love FREAKING "Camp Candy"???........
And that's it for me this week. Remember, don't be a stranger to 411! Bookmark the site and visit it countless times a day. Hell, be brave and make it your homepage! Trust me, it will make you a better person......
See you next Saturday back in the Squared Circle! Until then, you can find me on Facebook! .
Also, make sure you follow me on Twitter for plenty of good sports updates, MMA news, and tons of hilarious stuff.
All of 411's zones are also on Twitter, so make sure you check it out.....
Keep in mind that Warrior declined to take part in the "Self-Destruction" DVD so we are getting WWE's version of his story and they just bury him time and again throughout the disc. Despite this I think it's one of the company's best releases.
Posted By: abwiz74 (Guest) on November 27, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Hard Knocks of Chris Benoit was a pretty good dvd..
but i know why you didn't include it
Posted By: baby mickei (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 12:09 AM
There can't be more than one SOLE survivor in a match. Sole means the one and only.
Just saying
Posted By: isaac (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Honestly, if Warrior actually did an interview for that DVD, he might have came off looking even worse than WWE made him look.
Posted By: Guest#5299 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 01:02 AM
Yes, how dare Swagger not become a big star right away. Because WWE has given him good angles, and plenty of time to develop his mic skills and personality out there, right? Oh wait, you mean they haven't done any of those things?
This is why some people think the WWE is dying. They put a guy out there and expect him to catch on fire. And then after two or three months, after giving the guy no direction, they immediatley dub him a "failure", and never use him again. And then they fall back on proven "stars" like Cena, Orton, Batista, and DX, even though attendance, ratings, and buy rates continue to go down with those guys on top.
Now watch them fuck Kofi up as soon as this program with Orton is over. He'll screw up in a match, or cut one bad promo, and WWE will start to panic right away.
If "Ring Master" Steve Austin and Rocky Maivia were around today, they would be in the same situation as guys like Swagger. WWE doesn't know what the fuck they are doing anymore.
Posted By: Guest#8211 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 01:09 AM
Really good list, would have liked more matches on the Warrior DVD though,
i'd swap the 1 & 2 spots on my list & maybe add a couple of HM'S like Ecw's most violent matches, the tagteam dvd (allied powers), Viva la raza(2nd Eddie DVD) & maybe Mr.Perfect but then again i would'nt have been able to resist making it top 15 or more.
The Benoit dvd is excellent too, i watched it again the night i heard he was dead but got pretty creeped out the next day when i heard what really happened.
The E should really put out a Steamboat collection & a 3 disc for Owen Hart with the RAW tribute the next night as disc 3 or a maybe as a bonus disc cause it would be hard to limit Owen to 2 disc's alone.
Posted By: POTTS (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 01:21 AM
Haha, I love that pic of the dog.
ECW (the original) = Awesome
Posted By: Shane (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 01:22 AM
Just forgoT 1,
RVD one of a kind is great too.
Posted By: POTTS (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 01:30 AM
The whole Barbed Wire match is actually on another ECW DVD; whereas, it's only talked about on the Rise and Fall.
Posted By: Guest#0330 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 01:32 AM
I don't have the Wrestlemania & RR anthologies (i have individual videos & disks of all the events tho), but I do own the rest of the top 10, as well as all the honorable mentions.
I'm special like that.
Posted By: Spaz Monkey (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 02:07 AM
i agreewith the list and yeah im thinkin bret hart alsoagreed to do the dvd since he saw what would happen if he didnt. (i.e warrior dvd)
Posted By: I.C (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 02:39 AM
How can you call yourself an Ultimate Warrior fan and then just accept WWE's take on events? I mean, they say he was the WWF Champion in 1996! And remember Bret Hart's DVD was set to be called "Screwed - The Bret Hart story" and feature everyone burying him about Montreal, until he stepped in and agreed to be involved.
Posted By: DS (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 03:30 AM
"While Hart's WWE career ended on a sour note, us "Hitman" fans can relive the good times of Hart's career with this wonderful DVD. THANK YOU WWE~!"
...and Bret~! :-P
Posted By: Guest#5663 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 03:57 AM
what about:
the chris benoit story-eerie now, it was great then.
curt hennig
wrestling families
edge
the definitive ric flair collection?
Posted By: jd (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 05:25 AM
Mick Foley's Greatest Hits and Misses is a fantastic collection
Posted By: mrfish (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 05:50 AM
The Eddie Guerrero DVD is good, but the book is much better.
In fact, someone should do a top ten wrestling autobiographies. I believe Bret Hart would be number one over Foley's first book, but there's all kinds of opinions.
Posted By: Denton56 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 05:58 AM
"You have to admire someone who can resist the temptation of the WWE."
...we do?
Posted By: Ryushinku (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 06:50 AM
How is JR getting disrespected by the WWE if *he* doesn't sign a new contract again? And if his BP limits him, maybe announcing isn't the best thing for him right now.
Posted By: SteveC (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 08:32 AM
I really don't get WWE sometimes. They are losing faith in ziggler after feeding him to rey and morrison 29 times or something like that. A guy has to win to be beleived in. I blame rey, for refusing the job and just cos i hate that guy.
And with swagger, they gave him nothing, he debuted like all the ecw guys extremely well, then jobbed to mvp...fair enough if it was the start of a triple h-rock style star making fued but it wasn't...then he beats primo about a hundred times in an undefeated gimmick that i thought if they worked it they could have had him as undertakers match at mania (i'm serious) then job him out with no fanfare. How is that helping make a star.
Don't even get me started on Bourne...
Still at least scotland legend Drew is getting a push...for now...and not on last nights tv...but still. Go Drew!
Posted By: Guest#8429 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 08:43 AM
I have thought for years now that Pillman looks like Kurt Cobain.
And it has nothing to do with both men's passings,I thought that when Brian was still living.
Posted By: Insane Snake (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 10:31 AM
WWE is souring on Swagger because he sucks.
Posted By: Cactus (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Actually I also was thinking that Jericho and Taker will feud for the title, but after watching smackdown I'm pretty sure it won't happen. This best thing now would be Drew vs Taker program for Wrestlemania, starting at TLC, where Drew will cost Taker's title to Batista. It will be far better decision, because Drew vs Taker feud will take McIntyre to the sky.
One more thing - I love this column! You should take the Wrestling's 4R's at least for one PPV.
Posted By: BPN (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM
"The WWE did a great job with this DVD as it really answered a lot of questions I had as a kid."
Wow, good work swallowing up WWE's revisionist history like an unthinking tool. That DVD was a slanted piece of trash which totally buried the Warrior.
Posted By: Guest#2626 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 11:37 AM
so McIntyre and Sheamus are the future stars. Oh swell. That's great.
Posted By: Hate (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 01:27 PM
Stop calling it "the" WWE. Just call it WWE. You wouldn't call it "the World Wrestling Entertainment" would you? If you want to be taken seriously as a journalist, lose the "the". Hitman's DVD should have been number one.
Posted By: dude11767 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 01:35 PM
It's only "sole survivor" if there is one survivor, you idiot
Posted By: Armbarred (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 02:54 PM
You will NEVER see a greater moment in wrestling history than when Hulk Hogan slammed the 9 foot 1200 pound Andre.
Posted By: Guest#7665 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 06:23 PM
Wow, Batista looked so less-old back then.
Posted By: Guest#5282 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 06:41 PM
It's interesting how Swagger's de-push has coincided with Jim Ross' absence. Just saying.
Posted By: Dr Insanity (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 06:54 PM
seems to me the last time the Civil War was played in Autzen the Beavers won. So dont think for one second that ehy are lowlife. I dont recall seeing Quizz throwin any puches AKA Blount..
Posted By: usmc0311 (Registered) on November 28, 2009 at 08:06 PM
For me Pillmans DVD is the best. It was an amazing documentary that felt like a great look into the psyche of one of the most innovative guys ever in wrestling. It was both thrilling and completely sad. Also the matches on the DVD are awesome including the Jushin Thunder Liger battles, some great Hollywood Blondes stuff and the great Lex Luger US title match from 89'.
Warriors DVD was awesome but a total hack job. Warrior was my fave wrestler growing up and I was completely sad how much they buried him.
Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 08:27 PM
Swagger has been given nothing since coming to Raw, he's just got lost in the shuffle. On ECW he was starting to Pwn it. I still believe he can become a huge star to me he is like a Angle/Brock Hybrid (potentially).
Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 08:29 PM
HOORAY for Davey in pleasing the geeky smarks of the world!
Posted By: Guest#8534 (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 09:43 PM
I totally agree with the Royal Rumble being number 2. I always love battle royals.
Posted By: Blanky (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 10:36 PM
maybe if they actually had a meaningful storyline for swagger, they wouldn't have soured on him. having an 'undefeated streak' gimmick to end after 2 matches is just not how an undefeated streak works. if ziggler was allowed to win every now and then, maybe he wouldn't look like a giant choker.
Posted By: shio (Guest) on November 28, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Who the fuck is Davey Richards? Is he one of those indy "big fish/little pond" assholes?
Posted By: Guest#0757 (Guest) on November 29, 2009 at 09:19 AM
My personal favorite wwe produced dvd was "the monday night war"...can watch that over and over and not get tired of it...surprised it didn't make the list
Posted By: A.G. Pennypacker (Guest) on November 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Not sure what my alter ego A.G. was smoking but obviously it did make the honorable mention section but I personally feel it should be top 10.
Posted By: Cosmo Kramer (Guest) on November 29, 2009 at 12:35 PM
look theres so many wwe dvds why not tna has has come out with quite a few really good dvds like pheonemental the best of aj styles vols 1 and 2 tna year 1 and one of i think 2009's best dvds king of the mountain the jeff jarrett dvd just saying theres alot of wwe why not tna
Posted By: jeff (Guest) on November 29, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Totally agree with rise and fall at number one but u gotta include jake the snake "pick ur poison". That guy is fucked up!
Posted By: Guest#8709 (Guest) on November 29, 2009 at 01:25 PM
The AWA DVD that WWE made was a really good and interesting story that shows that Verne Gange and his AWA would have been number 1 now if Vince Jr. Didn't come along and rape his company back in the day. Also The Rise and Fall of WCW could have been on the list although the DVD was a little disapointing, It skipped alot of important things in the History of WCW and Whoever picked the matches for Disc 2 must have been on something when they did so.
Posted By: blah (Guest) on November 29, 2009 at 02:26 PM
Who the fuck is Davey Richards? Is he one of those indy "big fish/little pond" assholes?
Posted By: Guest#0757 (Guest) on November 29, 2009 at 09:19 AM
Better than an "anonymous poster on a wresting website who wishes he had any talent" asshole. Just sayin.
Posted By: The Coach (Guest) on November 29, 2009 at 03:18 PM
Jack Swagger got depushed casue he doesn't give 100% every time out in the ring. Even JR called him out for being lazy.
Posted By: Guest#4920 (Guest) on November 29, 2009 at 04:57 PM
Terrible order on the top 10 list, but a nice try anyway.
Posted By: Jake G (Registered) on November 29, 2009 at 06:02 PM
The most shocking thing of Batista's debut video isn't the gimmick, its Triple H doin' the J-O-B to D'von!!! Seriously, he'll lay down to him but won't do the J-O-B to Orton???
Posted By: The Truth (Guest) on November 30, 2009 at 12:35 AM
No "From the Vault: Sean Michaels"? I put that ahead of Heartbreak and Triumph for having more of his truly essential pre-back injury matches (eg. the ladder match against Razor, HIAC against Undertaker, Iron Man against Bret Hart)
Posted By: WadeMcG (Guest) on November 30, 2009 at 01:00 AM
Copyright � 2011 411mania.com, LLC. All rights reserved.
Click here for our privacy policy. Please help us serve you better, fill out our survey.
Use of this site signifies your agreement to our terms of use.
