Shining a Spotlight 12.10.09: Stars of the Decade
Posted by Michael Weyer on 12.10.2009
My picks for the stars who made the biggest impact and popularity over the last ten years.
I know that technically, the decade doesn't truly end until 2010. But, bowing to the trend, joining in the list of people who are looking back at the last ten years. For wrestling, it's a huge endeavor. This was a decade of massive change with WCW going under, TNA and ROH rising and the death toll of wrestlers making a troublingly dramatic rise. Looking back and trying to pick out "best" of the last ten years can be a pretty tricky proposition for the most level-headed of people. And let's face it, a great majority of folks in the IWC aren't known for level heads.
Of course, I'm sure other "Best of the Decade" lists and recaps will do similar things. I just got Entertainment Weekly's special issue where they make some pretty odd picks for their "Entertainers of the Decade" list (like Will Smith on but George Clooney not). And when it comes to their TV and movie lists…Look, I love Gladiator but number three of the decade? And who else honestly thinks that the failed HBO "comedy" The Comeback deserves a place on the top 10 list while 24 and Battlestar Galactica are left off?
For wrestling, where opinions vary wildly, ranking "the best" is almost a futile proposition. Which is why I made the decision not to do an actual ranking system with my picks. I did have a few criteria. First, with a couple of exceptions, picking guys who either began or broke out big in the last ten years. I know Shawn Michaels had some great matches and moments and appreciate the guy still being so fantastic but his best years were in the ‘90's. I'm also picking guys not so much for their athletic abilities but their overall impact over the last decade. Third is that folks will no doubt notice two names missing: Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit. For Eddie, as great as he was, he was limited in 2000-2002 by injuries and his personal demons and while his remaining three years were great, not quite enough to impact the whole decade. As for Benoit…as brilliant as he was in the ring, I was never too huge a fan of the guy when he was alive and I am still unable to separate him from the monster he became in those last few days.
A quick note on a few who came close but didn't quite make the list:
*Matt and Jeff Hardy: Close on both as they are great in the ring but, and I realize I'm in a minority, I never really bought into either as a strong singles superstar. Yes, Jeff was terrific but just could never get behind him and sadly, he showed he wasn't quite ready for the responsibility of carrying a company as champion.
*Batista: I've never understood the rush of love toward Big Dave as he has shown good work given the right opponent (HHH or Undertaker) but just hasn't impressed me as more than a jacked-up muscle man who's rough on the mic.
*Nigel McGuiness: I'm sure ROH fans will trash me for leaving him off as he is great in the ring but frankly, between him and Bryan Danielson, the latter really had a bigger impact on things.
*Brock Lesner: He was a phenomenon to be sure but the fact he only spent three years in WWE pretty much disqualifies him. He was a great worker in that time and easy to see why he was given the big shots so fast but turning his back to embrace football, followed by MMA does mar his legacy.
*Due to the fact I'm not as learned as others on Japanese wrestling, will be leaving off some of the Far East stars.
Also, this is mainly wrestlers but do have to give shout-outs to others who affected us over the decade:
*Vince McMahon of course, who finally got the victory over WCW and while he stumbled (the XFL), has continued to maintain WWE as the giant in the business and seen it succeed more despite the dips the industry has gone through.
*Dixie Carter, whose financial support of TNA saved the company from total bankruptcy and has boosted it big-time for fans with the deal with Spike TV and given it true hope for the future.
*Gabe Sapolsky, whose wonderful booking style helped ROH stand apart as true wrestling and aided the company in achieving its reputation.
So here we go with my list, again, in no particular order. I'm sure some will argue my picks but then, that's true for any "best of" listing from anyone. But I'd like to think my choices are pretty sound overall. My picks:
AJ Styles: A key reason TNA has managed to succeed as well as it has is The Phenomenal One. His record speaks for itself: 3 time NWA Champion, 4-time NWA tag team champion, TNA World Champion, TNA Legends Champion, TNA tag-team champion and of course, not only the first-ever X-Division Champion but holder of the belt a record six times. That's not to mention his runs as Pure and tag-team champ in ROH. Styles set the bar for the division that put TNA on the map with his incredible style of technical wrestling and high-flying maneuvers. The man has done stuff I have literally never seen before, taking some fantastic bumps and a great seller. He's also loyal to TNA, doing whatever it takes to help the company out. He had a rough patch with the period where he was portrayed as a comic relief moron but TNA now realizes how much of a superstar he is. He's been the face of the company since it started and as long as he's around, TNA can still call itself something truly special.
John Cena: A brilliant example of how a worker can blossom when he lets himself loose. He was okay as the Prototype in OVW but came off just too bland as a rookie face in WWF. But when he latched onto his rap persona, it unleashed his true spirit, giving birth to a major star. He's underrated majorly for his ability to sell injuries and brings a lot to the table in big battles. I remember his 45-minute classic with Michaels where Cena still looked fresh at the half hour mark as he never gets blown up, a testament to actual conditioning. On the mic, he's a wonder with great lines and humor and commands a camera better than anyone since the Rock left. He is has been caught between being cheered and booed but carries those off well (witness how he was able to handle the incredibly hostile crowd at One Night Stand ‘06) and continues to put out great matches. Like him or not but you have to give props to his amazing rise and ability to carry the company on his shoulders and prove how the right guy can still rule the wrestling world despite his detractors.
Kurt Angle: Even with his Olympic background, the idea that Angle could excel at wrestling so well was doubtful. But he surpassed every expectation, winning pretty much every title available in WWE. The man's technical skills are a marvel, even more impressive now given how most thought his career would be over in 2003 with a neck injury but continues to impress. Better is how Angle mixed that with a great character, a guy convinced he's respected and loved despite the "you suck" chants and even when playing a goofball, he comes off brilliantly on the mic. His move to TNA has shifted things up and his personal antics have gotten some poor press in the IWC. But when he wants to be, Angle can still be one of the best workers on the planet and has left a legacy of some of the decade's best bouts, winning huge respect. And that is true.
Edge: I never thought he had it in him. I knew he was good in the ring and he and Christian made a wonderful heel team as the decade started out. But I really did not expect the man to blossom into one of the biggest heel stars in years. The man just has instant charisma on the mic and can pull fans along with him. It's true his real heel status was achieved by his affair with Lita which boosted him to the main event. But he's proven he belongs there, able to carry the title for either brand and if not for his tendency to get injured at the wrong times, he'd be a lot more dominant. But he's able to still put in great matches, especially with ladders or cages and solidified himself as one of the best heels of the decade, a status that's led to one of the best stars of the last ten years.
Samoa Joe: It's still amazing how a man of his size is able to move across the ring so well with the speed and agility of men much smaller. That's matched by brilliant technical skill as he's a master of submission moves and some great ring psychology that made him a force in both ROH and TNA. He's improved majorly on the mic, coming off mostly silent but deadly and carries the crowds well with that great attitude. It took a while for TNA to finally pull the trigger on him as champion but he's held his own well and proven how you don't need a sleek physique to make it big in the wrestling world.
Trish Stratus: Back in 2000, if you'd said that Trish Stratus would be regarded as one of the best female wrestlers of her generation, you'd have been laughed at. Back then, she was just very ample eye candy in skimpy outfits, albeit one who could take great bumps. But a bit of training unlocked a talent in the ring no one expected, able to rise above the "diva" label and be a truly great wrestler. Her moves were amazing and could hold her own from costume fights to hardcore battles against the likes of Lita and Victoria among many more. Her choice to get out at the top of her game was smart and she stands as a great example of how you can't judge by looks alone as some women really can bring the A game to the mat better than a lot of guys.
HHH: I'll get some heat on this one but it's hard to ignore the impact Hunter has had on WWE in the last decade. Most will say it's negative, pointing to his hogging the title and spotlight so much from 02-05. However, HHH really did his best in the ring, putting on great matches and feuds and has such charisma that you kept watching. He was slowed by injuries and I think fatherhood may have him shuffling priorities. Witness how he put Batista over big-time in their ‘05 feud and shifted away from the title scene for a long while afterward. The thing is, HHH is still capable of good matches and some great promo work that has solidified him as one of the decade's biggest.
Christopher Daniels: I admit, this one's more of a personal pick as I've always liked the guy. He's another "TNA original" who's done great work in the company as he and Elix Skipper helped make the tag team division of the company hot with their feud with America's Most Wanted. But in singles competition, he was fantastic, still the longest-reigning X-Division champion ever with his plethora of fantastic moves, mixed with his great arrogant charisma. He didn't resort to the easy heel cheating but won a lot of his bouts clean, showcasing his great talent. His pairing with Styles as tag champions remains a highlight of TNA's run and while he was marred a bit with the "Curry Man" gimmick, he looks ready to rise again with his own name. However he goes in the future, the Fallen Angel certainly took off in this decade.
Randy Orton: He was always going to make it, that's obvious. Even his early work in OVW showed the great potential he had although it took a while to click in WWE. They made a few mistakes (his ill-advised face turn in ‘04) but Orton has gotten over by basically being himself: A cocky, arrogant jerk convinced he's the best around and doesn't care who he hurts along the way. The man's backstage attitude and actions aren't pleasant but he is a fantastic heel wrestler and his reigns as champion in WWE show they have faith in him making it work. He's still able to carry that belt and be a huge star and is able to use people's hatred to his advantage as few can.
CM Punk: One of the architects of ROH as we know it, Punk's act is brilliant: A guy with tattoos and piercing who preaches a clean-cut image of no drugs or drinking. In the ring, he's a marvel, able to go from brawling to technical brilliance with ease. His feud with Joe for the ROH title remains arguably the best series of matches in North America in the last decade. There were doubts he'd be able to conform to WWE but he overcame those brilliantly with first OVW and then making ECW really watchable. He's proven he can be a worthy World champion as well and his heel turn was wonderfully done thanks to his charisma. Whether side he's on, he's truly straight-edge when it comes to being one of the most original and hard-working figures of the last ten years.
Chris Jericho: Another guy who started in the ‘90's, Jericho was lost in WCW due to its politics. Some might argue that continued in WWE but Jericho did get his chances at the big time several times and showed he could carry things wonderful. His ariel moves are good along with his technical style but of course, it's his amazing presence on the mic that's made him a true favorite. The guy is funny as hell and able to dominate the camera whenever he's on, always providing a good show. Whether a funny face or a cocky heel, you can't help but root for him and enjoy the great show he puts on. A decade after the arrival of Y2J, Jericho continues to spread his influence and give fans some fine entertainment.
Bryan Danielson: The Founding Father of ROH, one of the main-eventers of their very first show and a driving force for their success afterward. One of the single most talented wrestler you've ever seen, the man racked up slews of titles along the independent circuit from Memphis to Japan. But ROH is where the Dragon made his name, engaging in brilliant battles with pretty much everyone the company could offer, mixing styles in an amazing manner. Danielson's loyalty to the company was strong and helped ROH out majorly but he's likely to succeed in WWE as well. However, it works out, the Dragon certainly fired things up for the past decade and helped make ROH the go-to promotion it is.
I'm sure there'll be some arguments about my choices but I stand by them. Next week I continue with my look at the decade's most memorable matches. For now, the spotlight is off.
Even though both are long gone Austin and Rock in 2000 and 2001 are still part of this decade and even 2002 and 2003 for Rock. Undertaker deserves a mention for still going strong.
Posted By: Radtke (Guest) on December 09, 2009 at 11:11 PM
the undertaker desrves to be on there more than cena...
triple h/taker wm 17
lesnar/taker no mercy 02
cena/taker vengeance 03
buildup to his return at wm 20
jbl/taker no mercy 04
orton/taker armageddon 05
angle/taker no way out 06
batista/taker wm 23
batista/taker smackdown 06
edge/taker wm 24
edge/taker extreme rules 08
edge/taker summerslam 08
hbk/taker wm 25
Posted By: Guest#2167 (Guest) on December 09, 2009 at 11:16 PM
It's not that the choices were no good (everyone you mentioned is valid in his or her own way), but you missed out on a couple. I would've thought you'd also mention wrestlers like Batista, Eddie Guerrero, Booker T, Brock Lesnar, Jeff Hardy, Jeff Jarrett, Shelton Benjamin and Legacy just to name a few. They all had their own impact in the last 10 years of the WWE. And with Chris Jericho, I'm suprised you didn't mention the fact that in this past decade he unified the WWF and WCW Championships to become the first ever Undisputed Champion.
Posted By: Kristian (Guest) on December 09, 2009 at 11:20 PM
@Guest#2167: Yes, Undertaker headlined a lot of pay-per-views but that's pretty much where you catch him the most, rarely did you catch him on Smackdown or defending his title.
I like to think of the Undertake as a DH hitter, limited on the field but great off the bench when you need him. Just like baseball, it's hard to justify giving a spot as top wrestlers of the decade when he hasn't been up as much as other guys on the roster.
Posted By: Rawr (Guest) on December 09, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Hasnt Shawn Michaels had more 5-star matches in WWE since 2002 than any other wrestler this decade?
Posted By: Guest#7251 (Guest) on December 09, 2009 at 11:29 PM
John Cena;
"He's underrated majorly for his ability to sell injuries"
You're fucking kidding, right?
Posted By: AngryTas (Guest) on December 09, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Oh, and way to not include Shawn Michaels.
Posted By: AngryTas (Guest) on December 09, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Trish should've been an honorable mention, with Eddie taking her spot. He was an awesome (in every sense of the word) talent and even better person. To say he didn't have *enough* impact on this decade is borderline blasphemous; Smackdown Six, WMXX celebration, making BRADSHAW into a mostly credible ME'er (which also helped build Cena in the long run), made the entire IWC cry, got Rey Mysterio a WHC win over Angle AND Orton, gave us one of the best heat-getters of the decade in the lovely Vickie, which in turn helped push Edge over the top into the certifiable main event position he is in.
Eddie, both in life AND death, had a significant effect on the advancement of the careers of at least 4 of the wrestlers on this list, and dozens of others as well.
I sympathize with you on Benoit, and even on the majority of the wrestlers you included, but Eddie certainly deserves to be on this list.
Posted By: Cactus (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:02 AM
I agree that Undertaker should have been nominated, he's had solid feuds, remains one of the biggest draws in the WWE, and is one of the most respected figures in the wrestling industry.
Plus his body of work for the last decade is easily some of his best work, and some of the best in the industry.
Posted By: Last_Rider (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Eddie Guerrero battled and beat his demons to become WWE champion in 2004... off the list. Shawn Michaels overcame a career/life threatening injury to return in 2002 and give us even more memories to remember him by... off the list. To me, that guarantees a spot. Then again, it's your opinion and I must respect that. Just dropping my two cents.
Posted By: yeah...no (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Knew people would whine about Taker and Michaels being excluded.
This was a great list.
Posted By: Guest#8237 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Looking at roughly 50% of the list, it's no wonder wrestling has gone in the shitter this last decade.
Here's to hoping the young guys of today can turn things around.
Posted By: Ronnie (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:53 AM
John Cena;
"He's underrated majorly for his ability to sell injuries"
You're fucking kidding, right?
Posted By: AngryTas (Guest) on December 09, 2009 at 11:47 PM
lol i know rememebr WM23.
Didn't Michaels work his knee a lot, and in the middle of the match Cena's knee magically healed.
Posted By: 2 frsh 37 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:55 AM
nice list. but i feel like its only a good list for the pass 5 yrs.. ur missing the other 5 yrs.. the rock and stone cold part of the end of the attitude era in early 2000.. if im right.. i could be wrong tho ...
but ya edge is definately up there he stepped up big time
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 01:00 AM
Seriously?
Wow.
I agree with those on the list, but wrestlers of the decade should be impact total, not longevity.
Lesnar had two years yes, but those two years had some major impact.
Benoit had more impact then just being a "monster." Rating the guy on what he did in his personal life isn't fair. You don't go to the movies and go "Man, Brad Pitt rules in this movie but I can't enjoy it because he beats his wife."
Benoit's impact was HUGE. He & Angle & The Radicalz put technical wrestling back into the WWE. His feud with The Rock in 2000 & feuds with Angle/Jericho/Booker/HHH made WWE watchable for years. Even his worst moment had an impact, we wouldn't have had Morrison as ECW champion had he not.
Posted By: Johnny Rock (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 01:36 AM
Instead of bitching about his list. Why don't some of you children just make your own?
Posted By: Guest#7925 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 01:50 AM
I'm not sure Daniels was such a good choice. I like him, but he's never gotten the push he deserves. Thus, he hasn't gotten to play as many big roles in TNA. And I think Rey Mysterio should have at least gotten a mention.
Great job overall though.
Posted By: Guest#8817 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 02:02 AM
lol i know rememebr WM23.
Didn't Michaels work his knee a lot, and in the middle of the match Cena's knee magically healed.
Posted By: 2 frsh 37 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:55 AM
HBK worked his leg for like half a minute, and then never went back to it
not cena's fault
Posted By: hound89 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 02:13 AM
I know that in 411mania almost all of you are Taker-haters,but this is JUST STUPID.Ok Undertaker not deserves to be on top 10 ,but Batista is nominated as honorable mention and Undertaker no.WHY?
Posted By: Pavel (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 04:48 AM
Christian, nuff said.
Posted By: Guest#3845 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 04:54 AM
Taker & HBK should be on this list as both have had so many great matches, with Taker his run between 2006-2008 were full of good matches.
For wrestler of the decade its a toss up between Angle & Jericho for me, both have worked through most of it & both have not only put on good matches quite often but they have also been as good as anyone on the mic.
Posted By: jbardo (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 06:06 AM
I seem to remember that The Undertaker was pretty awful for most of the early part of the decade...
Posted By: Guest#8568 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 06:25 AM
Kristian - Legacy? Are you out of your freaking mind?
Posted By: Guest#3090 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 07:34 AM
Clearly you went for longevity instead of impact, and I agree with who you do have on the list, but you still should have put HBK and Taker on there. HBK had some of his best stuff in the 90s but he also had some amazing work on the 2000's. And for 8 years he has! Counting injuries etc, Id say he wrestled more than Angle or Edge this decade.
And taker, his best 10 years are surely in the 2000s compared to the 90s
Anyways, a nice read :-)
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 07:38 AM
Perfect list!
Posted By: Guest#9885 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 08:05 AM
Shawn Michaels - Returned after 4 years of what was expected to be a career ending back injury. Raised the bar and out performed 95% of the much younger talent. He was the show stoppa back in the 90s, and I never wanted to see him return as half the man he was. He came back however and has been twice the man he was. Constantly putting on five star matches and putting over talent. He could easily have had multiple lengthy reigns as champion between being a solid worker and having a good deal of pull but we've only seen him hold the title once for a month if that since his return in 2002 because he's out to help the business, not his ego. HBK is by far, the star of the decade and to leave him out of this is the biggest oversight by a 411 writer to date. I'm sure you'll realize this next week when HBK is the star of most of your most memorable matches of the decades decisions. You fail, sir.
Posted By: I lost my smile reading this (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 08:10 AM
No HBK?
Posted By: SJay (Registered) on December 10, 2009 at 08:32 AM
Trish should've been an honorable mention, with Eddie taking her spot. He was an awesome (in every sense of the word) talent and even better person. To say he didn't have *enough* impact on this decade is borderline blasphemous; Smackdown Six, WMXX celebration, making BRADSHAW into a mostly credible ME'er (which also helped build Cena in the long run), made the entire IWC cry, got Rey Mysterio a WHC win over Angle AND Orton, gave us one of the best heat-getters of the decade in the lovely Vickie, which in turn helped push Edge over the top into the certifiable main event position he is in.
Eddie, both in life AND death, had a significant effect on the advancement of the careers of at least 4 of the wrestlers on this list, and dozens of others as well.
I sympathize with you on Benoit, and even on the majority of the wrestlers you included, but Eddie certainly deserves to be on this list.
Posted By: Cactus (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:02 AM
dude, get over the eddie sentiment. he died in 2005, didn't even complete the decade. same for benoit.
Posted By: Guest#7368 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 09:09 AM
I think Shawn Michaels deserves a spot on the list, infact he definetly does, The ammount of 5 star classics he's had
Posted By: KnowYourRole (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 09:27 AM
Shawn absolutely should be on this list his second run from a work rate perspective has outdone his first run in which at the time he was being considered the best inring performer ever.
Since 2002 I'd say by the time he done.. he will go down in most people's eyes as the best wrestler of all time and that even includes Flair.
Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 09:35 AM
Shawn and Taker are GLARING omissions. This list is more of a what have you done for me recently and not an actual look at the best of the decade. If that were the case, Batista would replace Samoa Joe. Christian would replace Daniels.
Posted By: AGM (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 09:41 AM
HBK vs Y2J(03,08), HBK vs HHH vs Benoit(04), HBK vs Angle(05)x2, HBK vs Hogan(05) and HBK vs Taker in 09. Those are just a few of HBKs classics this decade. You could make a case that Shawn Michaels is the pro wrestler of the decade.
Posted By: Guest#9596 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 10:37 AM
You're missing two of the best...
Undertaker for his legacy
Shawn Michaels, because he's had more 5 star matches and feuds than anyone on your list.
These two are way above Punk or Cena.
Posted By: Randy M. (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 10:54 AM
daniels,joe? i don`t think so
Posted By: duhh (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM
"I know Shawn Michaels had some great matches and moments and appreciate the guy still being so fantastic but his best years were in the ‘90's."
Shawn has had more great matches and moments this decade than in the 90s.
Posted By: JP (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Excuse me, could you please tell me why Snitsky isn't on the list?
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Punk is borderline... Taker is a gimme. And Shawn should be #1 on top right next to Cena/Orton/HHH. Who has delivered more phenomenal matches or better feuds and promos across the board?
Posted By: DUDE (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I agree with all of them except Danielson. He's a great worker but he hasn't achieved anywhere near the same as any of your other choices, and for him to make the list ahead of Michaels is somewhat questionable (and no, I don't agree that Michaels's best years were in the nineties - and I think you'll struggle to find many who do).
Posted By: Bimmy (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM
What the hell? No love for Christian? How did Michaels also not make it into the list...
Posted By: CC Fanboy (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:40 PM
wwe stars of the 00s
1.cena
2. edge
3. hhh
4. hbk
5. angle
6. taker
7. brock
8. orton
9. jericho
10.batista/trish
Posted By: rey (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM
"I know Shawn Michaels had some great matches and moments and appreciate the guy still being so fantastic but his best years were in the ‘90's."
Shawn has had more great matches and moments this decade than in the 90s.
Posted By: JP (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Have you seen shawn michaels when he was wrestling in prime? He was phenomenal. He was really the most charismatic, controversial, and taltented wrestler. Not to say that he is no longer those things, its that Shawn is way past his prime, he is mostly definately embarking his retirement phase.
Posted By: Guest#9539 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Kristian - Legacy? Are you out of your freaking mind?
Posted By: Guest#3090 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 07:34 AM
No, I am not. Their recent feud w/ DX and the semi-tension between Randy Orton really made these two shine. They may not have been the big superstars that ruled wrestling in this past decade, but they certainly established themselves as the future these last couple years. That oughta count for something.
Excuse me, could you please tell me why Snitsky isn't on the list?
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Snitky didn't make that big of an impact in wrestling unless you count being responsible for a "miscarriage" a big impact. As for overlooking him, it wasn't Weyer's fault.
Posted By: Kristian (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Triple H owned this decade, and we all know why he has that top spot. But based on pure talent and ability, Kurt Angle has been the best wrestler of this decade. Jericho was great up until 2002 when HHH returned. I'm not sure why he returned after his 2005 loss to Cena. Maybe he didn't save his money, or he just likes being a tag champion with the Big Slow. Undertaker should've stayed retired in 1999. HBK was awesome the first half of this decade, but lately he looks like a cross eyed turtle. He moves very slow and can hardly walk. Hopefully him and the Deadman call it quits after this year's Mania. It's very pathetic watching the two of them in the ring these days. I'm a fan of both of them but they look like shit.
Posted By: MBD (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 01:11 PM
Off the list - Trish, Daniels.
On the list - HBK, Undertaker.
In order:
Honorable Mention: Danielson, Daniels, Lesnar, Guerrero, Batista, Jeff Hardy
10 AJ Styles/CM Punk (tie)
9 Undertaker
8 HHH
7 Edge
6 HBK
5 Angle
4 Samoa Joe
3 Jericho
2 Orton
1 Cena
Posted By: SpankyHamm (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 01:18 PM
Shawn Michaels missed the first 2 and a half years of the decade and regularly takes 6 months off at a time, despite this, he's still had more great matches this decade than any other wrestler, if that's not greatness, I don't know what is, he's been wrestler of the decade and arguaby the greatest of all time.
Posted By: Guest#6151 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 01:26 PM
HBK vs Y2J(03,08), HBK vs HHH vs Benoit(04), HBK vs Angle(05)x2, HBK vs Hogan(05) and HBK vs Taker in 09. Those are just a few of HBKs classics this decade. You could make a case that Shawn Michaels is the pro wrestler of the decade.
Shhhhh, we're not allowed to mention that guy...(Benoit)...
Posted By: CC Fanboy (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 01:31 PM
Are u absolutely joking about excluding HBK?! The guy wrestled in possibly the best match ever with Taker at WM..puts over new talent (falling to Morrison to his own finisher for example!) And is a CONSTANT believable contender in every title match he's put in! Ridiculous.
Posted By: McStunna (Registered) on December 10, 2009 at 01:43 PM
The Snitski line was sarcasm, moron.
Posted By: McStunna (Registered) on December 10, 2009 at 01:48 PM
where is Waltman? Syxx? X-Pac? 123 Kidd?
All 4 of those guys were awesome!
Esse rios? Surely he should have been concidered?
Taka and Funaki possibly the best tag team ever!
What about Shark Boy? El Generico? Greeced up fat guy that danced?
Uh I reject your list for my own thanx!
Posted By: dbagmcbagison (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 02:04 PM
There's two lists. Kurt Angle on one, everyone else on another one. If Kurt was still with WWE, fans would realize this. Maybe, just maybe, you could make a mini list with Edge, Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho.
Posted By: BH (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 02:47 PM
I know that you're getting heat for not including Eddie, but I think that you're right. He was sadly only alive for half of the decade, and a good portion of that time was spent in rehab. Of course he was amazing, but including him on any "Best of the 00s" list would have been a sympathy thing because it's cool for the IWC to seem classy.
HBK on the other hand should have been there, no question. The man owned.
Posted By: G (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 02:57 PM
wow.........kinda disrespectful to undertaker and shawn michales......were their matcher not as good as others???tell you what....take out cena and edge and put undertaker and shawn michales and the list is perfect.......
Posted By: Guest#4725 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 02:59 PM
First off, I guess some folks missed the fact that this isn't a "1-10" ranking, it's just put out at random.
For Michaels, yes, I do agree he made a great impact with some terrific matches but his impact to the industry wasn't as big as it was in the '90's. That's what I was going for but I do ackowledge him as a great star for this decade, just not the dominant one he once was.
Posted By: M A Weyer (Registered) on December 10, 2009 at 03:06 PM
I'm not the biggest TNA fan, but I would put Jeff Jarrett up there too. He created the #2 promotion in the country!
Posted By: Guest#5038 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 03:15 PM
The fact Undertaker is not on here is clearly a mistake. I hope. Other than that I would agree with everyone on here.
Posted By: Parxy (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 04:21 PM
Weyer, HBK isn't "as dominant" this decade as he was in the last one because he now works for the company and not himself.
Posted By: AngryTas (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 04:42 PM
Stone Cold FREAKING Steve Austin was more over, and made a bigger impact in pro wrestling than ANYONE else has, period. The Rock, as well, should be on here, along with the other HBK and Taker necessities. Trish, Daniels, Joe, AJ, and Danielson don't belong on this list yet. Hell, guys like Eddie, Benoit, The Big Show, Rey, Batista, Christian all have done much more than them. Christian especially has been about as consistant a performer in wrestling.
Posted By: Guest#4471 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 05:09 PM
No to Danielson. Being one of the top guys in basically an indy promotion means squat.
Posted By: Greg (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 05:09 PM
Not really sure how significant the impact of the indy guys (Styles, Daniels, Joe, Danielson) have been compared to guys you left off. I think you can say the Rock "broke out big in the last 10 years." He was in his first Wrestlemania main event in 2000. Your list is pretty heavy toward the last half of the decade and not the first.
Posted By: bill (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 07:46 PM
The Rock's career was from 98-04. Surely he belonged to the 2000s decade. He was the single most entertaining wrestler to watch both on the the mic and in the ring. He deserved a spot on that list. Otherwise, great list!
Posted By: Taha (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 07:47 PM
I think so and so deserved to be in it.
WRITE YOUR OWN FUCKING LIST THEN !!!!
Posted By: Guest#5713 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 07:51 PM
You said the following about John Cena "On the mic, he's a wonder with great lines and humor and commands a camera better than anyone since the Rock left."
Are you high? His humor is funny if you're 7 years old, and his promos are one of 3 options. I think he just picks out of hat each night to see which kind of promo hes gonna deliver....
Its either A, B, or C
A.) Comes out and plays the funny loveable face from the beginning with bad jokes that will make any person above the age of 12 cringe when they hear them
B.) Comes out, tries to be funny for a little but then gets serious blah blah blah and says the champ is here at the end.
C.) Comes out playing serious Cena, starts quiet and gets progressively louder, talking about how he never backs down blah blah blah and says if you want some come get some.
His promos are awful, Im sorry. Ive tried to like this guy. If you wanna say that his old rap promos were good thats fine, but unless your a child (or your as stupid as one) his promos fucking suck.
And oh yeah, he never ever ever ever ever sells an injury and if you don't think that, you've never seen one of his matches.
Posted By: daddyO (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 08:23 PM
Putting Joe, Daniels & Danielson on this list is ridiculous, and I'm a huge fan of all three. The fact is, none of them have done anything to warrant being called a "star of the decade". AJ does because he is the true heart of TNA. Leaving off Taker & Michaels is shocking.
Posted By: Guest#8543 (Guest) on December 10, 2009 at 09:31 PM
1. John Cena
2. Triple H
3. Shawn Michaels
4. Kurt Angle
5. Randy Orton
6. The Rock
7. Chris Benoit
8. Edge
9. The Undertaker
10. AJ Styles
HM: Joe, Daniels, Jeff Hardy, Hogan, Goldberg
Posted By: Johnny Rock (Guest) on December 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM
NON WWE STARS OF THE 2000s
jeff jarrett
aj styles
samoa joe
bryan danielson
KENTA
cm punk (spent most of the deacde not in the wwe)
nigel mcguiness
scott steiner
Posted By: rey (Guest) on December 12, 2009 at 07:27 PM
You could have pointed out how Jericho's been helping make titles matter again.
Posted By: Y2J fan (Guest) on December 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM
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