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The 411 Wrestling Top 5 2.10.10: Week 61 – Guest Booker Month - The Invasion of the WWF
Posted by Michael Bauer on 02.10.2010



Hello everyone and welcome to 411 Wrestling's Top 5 List. What we are going to is take a topic each week and all the writers here on 411 wrestling will have the ability to give us their Top 5 on said topic, plus up to three honorable mentions.

So, on to this week's topic…

GUEST BOOKER MONTH – THE INVASION ANGLE


For the month of February, we are doing Guest Booker Month, much like Ring of Honor has with a DVD series. For the four Top 5 lists this month, we will be looking back a specific time period and seeing what the writers would change. The lists will be one through five, chronologically, with no Honorable Mentions. The five items do not have to be related to one another.

For example: Hogan's leaving after Wrestlemania VIII

If you would never had Savage beat Flair for the gold, you can still assume Bret Hart became champion when he did and just have a different result to end Wrestlemania IX.

This week we are going to the end of WCW and WWE, starting on March 26, 2001. Six days before Wrestlemania and Shane McMahon shows up on WCW Nitro's final broadcast to work the WWE angle of him against his father. It ends on November 18, 2001 when Steve Austin eats the final pinfall in the Survivor Series match and the WWE defeats the combined forces of WCW and ECW… or does it? Not only do our writers get the chance to rework those eight months, but they are able to go further to Wrestlemania XVIII or however long they need to properly end the feud.

So what did our group of writers select? Let's find out…



Jeremy Thomas

1. Diamond Dallas Page wins the WWF Heavyweight Championship.



And right off the bat, too. One of the biggest problems with the InVasion was that after WrestleMania, nothing really happened with it. Fans were breathless with anticipation to see what was going on, but the WWF were busy trying to figure out how to establish them as two separate shows. Instead of doing that, they needed to play through the angle and then, AFTERWARD, set them as two distinct brands. So things escalate immediately after WrestleMania in my booking, with the confrontation between Shane and Vince where Booker T comes in to scissor kick the Chairman happening the Raw directly after 'Mania. With that in mind, one of the most important things to do in order to establish the importance of the WCW Invasion was to make their talent seem dangerous. As much as I would like to have said that one of the iconic names comes in to win it, I'm deciding to work with what I have and really, you have two names in WCW that wrestling fans would have accepted as legitimate threats. One of those was Booker T, who was the WCW World Heavyweight Champion. The other was DDP, who had been a champion before and was hugely over with the crowds. This is set up the week after the situation where Booker T scissor kicked Vince. Instead of having Booker take on Buff Bagwell, you have DDP (who would NOT have debuted in the Sara Undertaker stalker crap in this version) come out and apologize to Vince for that. He promises that as one of the WCW locker room leaders, he will deal with it but in return, he wants a shot at the Rock and the WWF Title. (He didn't lose it in my booking because they didn't do the Two-Man Power Group and Austin heel turn. That would just overshadow the InVasion too much and a heel turn for a major star is not as significant as what Vince had on his hands.) Vince reluctantly makes the deal, and through the rest of the show you have DDP talking with people in WCW, arguing that they need to show what they can do as talents, not bullies. Eventually they all agree, including Booker. Page says that he's going to have Booker sit at ringside and watch how a true sportsman behaves. When the match kicks off, things are going well. Booker looks like he's about to interfere a couple of times but Page tells him not to. Finally the end comes when a ref bump happens and Booker comes in. Page tries to hold him off and the Rock about ready to take them both out when Page asks him to back off. Rocky does...right into a belt shot from Shane who's come out of the crowd. The Rock stumbles forward into a Diamond Cutter for the pinfall and bam! Instant credibility for the WCW group. They've just fired a huge shot across the bow, but not in a way that proves they're the better company. Just like that, in the words of Marcus Burnett, "shit just got real."

2. Gang Warfare Escalates: If the WWE would took a hit when DDP won the Heavyweight Title, then things would really start to look bleak when ECW joined in the fray. I would have that whole thing play out exactly how it did (except, again, earlier), with WCW and ECW embracing in the ring. Afterward, the Alliance starts acting like the nWo did to a degree. They're fighting for their careers here and since Vince McMahon won't give them air time, they're going to earn it. Edge and Christian lose the World Tag Team Titles to Undertaker and Kane on the April 19th edition of SmackDown, only to have the Dudley Boys and the Impact Players come down and take them both out. That sets up a four-way match at Backlash for the Tag Team Titles which the Dudleys win. Similar sneak attack methods play out elsewhere; DDP retains his title against the Rock thanks to RVD and Dreamer, while Booker T loses by DQ against Triple H when Shane comes in to interrupt the three count. The WWF starts fighting back using the same tactics and things start to get ugly.

3. Steve Austin's Allegiance is Unknown: Austin's motto was legendary. "DTA: Don't Trust Anybody." In a situation where two sides were lining up, it would make the most sense for Stone Cold to fight as a solo warrior and not take either side. While Shane and Stephanie would try to woo him to the Alliance and Vince tried the same thing with the WWF, Austin would have had good reasons not to trust any of them and would have kept fighting all comers. He ends up as the guest referee in a Judgment Day tag team main event between DDP & Booker on one side and the Rock and Triple H on the other and calls it right down the middle. When a close count doesn't result in a three, Page gets in Austin's face and shoves him, which results in a Stunner to the WWF Heavyweight Champion. The Rock covers for three and the big question is whether Austin has sided with the WWF. However the next night on Raw, Austin is confronted by all three McMahons and told to pick a side. Austin says he's picking his own side and stuns all three of them. While this would result in a slightly diminished role for Stone Cold in-ring, it would keep him in the thick of things and actually let him rest some of the injuries he'd been nursing at the time.

4. The WWF Makes Their Comeback: Building through SummerSlam and toward Survivor Series, the WWF starts to come back in their feud. SummerSlam sees a major defection as RVD gets tired of the crap that Shane and Stephanie are spewing and sides with the WWF. Meanwhile Jericho defects the other direction. Palumbo and O'Haire get tired of the Dudleys holding down the Alliance Tag Teams and denying them a shot, and that dissention starts to play out throughout as the younger guys want their shots. The Rock wins back his WWF Title from Page in a chaotic lumberjack match and the Alliance teams start to get more and more frustrated. The battle lines start to get a bit blurry as people who haven't chosen a side are targeted more intensely; only Austin manages to stay the lone wolf. While the Alliance is still holding their own at this point the 'F is looking competitive again, and that leads to the climax at…

5. Survivor Series 2001: And this plays out more or less as it did, with the exception of no mole. Instead, we have a five-on-five Winner Take All Main Event. On Team WWF are The Rock, The Undertaker, Kane, Rob Van Dam and Kurt Angle; on Team Alliance are Chris Jericho, Booker T, Diamond Dallas Page and the Dudley Boys. While the other inter-promotional matches throughout the show are tallied up in favor of the Alliance or the WWF, this is the tie breaker. They battle it out in a hard-fought match that ends up coming down to two men: The Rock and Page. The Rock is in control until Stephanie comes down and distracts the referee, allowing Shane to take him out from behind. Shane and Page are beating down the Rock until finally, Steve Austin comes out. The Alliance offers him a job in the new alliance once the 'F is out of business, and Austin considers before taking them both out and helping the Rock up. Austin beats Shane up the ramp as Page is Rock Bottomed, allowing for the three-count and a WWF win. Afterward, WCW ends up with SmackDown thanks to the Ric Flair half-owner deal and you have two separate brands that are totally viable. End of InVasion.



Aaron Hubbard

1. Benoit as WWF Champion, Leads ECW:



In this scenario, Chris Benoit was not injured (nor was Triple H, but I'll get to that in a second) and had defeated Austin and Jericho to win the WWF Championship. WCW invades and Benoit and Booker T, the WCW Champion, renew acquaintances, with Booker defeated Benoit to guarantee that WCW takes over half of Monday Night RAW. Austin accuses Benoit of losing on purpose and being a mole for WCW, and Benoit walks out of the company. At Invasion, Angle defeats Jericho and Undertaker to win the vacant WWF Championship. Austin and Triple H battle Booker T and Diamond Dallas Page, but Benoit interrupts the match with The Dudley Boyz, Rob Van Dam, Raven, Rhyno, Taz, Tommy Dreamer, Sabu and Paul Heyman in tow. They declare ECW the dominant company, and Benoit invokes his rematch clause to face Angle at Summer Slam, where he wins with a little help from Heyman. ECW battles both sides as an independent promotion.

2. WCW Takes Over: Leading up to Survivor Series, there are many twists and turns. Triple H and Austin have stopped caring about the war altogether, battling each other and causing a major rift in the WWF's war plan. Undertaker and The Rock take up team responsibility for WWF and Rock beats Booker T for the WCW Title at Summer Slam, while Jericho, fed up with being overlooked, joins WCW. In a shocking upset, Jericho beats The Rock cleanly at No Mercy for the WCW Title, and Booker defeats Benoit to gain the WWF title, leaving the WWF powerless. Going into Survivor Series, Vince, Heyman and Shane go all in, bring back War Games with three teams of three, Winner Takes All. WWF has Rock, 'Taker and Angle, WCW has Booker, DDP and Jericho, and WCW has Benoit, RVD and Sabu. Austin and HHH settle their rivalry in Hell in a Cell, with the stipulation that the winner will be signed by whoever wins. Austin wins that match, and in an absolute shocker, Jericho makes The Rock tap to the Walls of Jericho and WCW wins the war, kicking out WWF.

3. Steve Austin, WCW Champion: Now that WCW has taken over, they face the problem of having Jericho as their World Champion, while Booker T declares that he is World Champion as well, even if the WWF is dead. To settle the issue, WCW brings out Ric Flair as the WCW Commissioner, and Flair decides that they will bring back WCW's traditional December PPV, Starrcade. That at Starrcade, Jericho will face Austin, while Booker will face the newest man to resign with WCW...Bill Goldberg! Austin defeats Jericho, and Goldberg defeats Booker, leading to the epic dream match fans have been waiting for. After a brutal and dramatic contest, three Stone Cold Stunners put Goldberg down, and Austin reigns on top of the world as WCW Champion.

4.The n.W.o. Poisons WCW: Unfortunately, during his celebration on Nitro, Austin is assaulted by Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, and Hollywood Hogan. Hogan says that the n.W.o. Is responsible for WCW becoming the monster that could challenge and bury the WWF, so they have every right to be here. Austin declares that he will fight Hogan as soon as possible, and thanks to heavy interference from Hall and Nash, Hogan defeats Austin to become champion once more. Hogan says that he is in control and he's calling the shots, so he demands that Flair rehire the Rock so Hogan can prove once and for all that he is the biggest star in wrestling. Flair obliges and Hogan and Rock is set for SuperBrawl. In a shocking turn of events, Hogan goes down to a single punch from Rock and Rock hits the People's Elbow to become champion. Suddenly, all of the major WWF and ECW stars flock the ring, and Rock explains that the n.W.o. were sent in by Vince McMahon when Triple H called in a favor to his good buddies. Now the WWF has the belt, and the war is back on.

5. Wrestlemania X8-The Battle to End All Battles:In response to the WWF/ECW/n.W.o. Alliance, Flair desperately scours for any old talent that WCW has. He brings in Rey Mysterio, Eddy Guerrero, Curt Hennig, and most notably Sting. The stage is set for the biggest event in wrestling history at Wrestlemania X8, with Undertaker facing Goldberg, Triple H facing DDP, Angle facing Booker T, The Outsiders facing Flair & Hennig, Benoit facing Jericho, and RVD and Sabu facing Mysterio and Guerrero. The show is headlined by the double whammy dream matches of Hogan vs. Austin and Rock vs. Sting for the Championship. In the end, the WWF wins with Rock delivering the most electrifying move in sports entertainment to the Stinger. All of WCW's top talents are signed to the WWF.



Mathew Sforcina

1.Re-establish WCW.



Clearly, these things don't have to be totally realistic (right Jake?), but I'm keeping out all the huge names they couldn't get for one reason or another (Right JP?). Nor am I having injuries not take place. So, after Wrestlemania, what do you have? A bunch of WCW mid-card acts, with TWO main eventers, neither of whom are known to the WWF audience (in theory). So, what do you do?

Build up what you have, obviously.

After Shane's victory over Vince at WM, Vince is angry, even with Austin in his pocket. So, he issues a challenge to Shane, for a rematch at Backlash. After some back and forth, it becomes a battle for WCW's Future, with Shane putting up his stock in WCW AND the WWF against Smackdown. And, after Austin beats down Shane in a psychotic rage on a Smackdown, and some WCW stars (who get little promo pieces during commercial breaks as WCW 'advertises' on WWF TV. Hey, Shane can buy ad time if he wants to...) murmer about running it, the match is put into a steel cage. Shane wins when Big Show lumbers out and knocks out Austin as he tries to interfere, allowing Shane to jump to escape and win, turning Smackdown into Thursday Nitro. After Big Show's defection, a few other moderate names jump brands when their contracts expire (and one or two switches the other way as well), but WWE and WCW just begin to pretend the others don't exist while going on with business as usual. But on every PPV, which they are forced to share due to Smackdown's right to airtime, the tension is palpable. World Champions have face offs, Divas get into cat fights, the Hardcore Title is briefly held by WCW guys for a few seconds, no major offensive, the two sides are being ordered to hold off. Until...

2.An Extremely Interesting SummerSlam - The Rock returns from his Vince McMahon exile (although Vince tried to get him back earlier, Rock refused) to, shockingly, announce his retirement from WWF. As soon as the ink is dry, he signs onto WCW for a short term contract, on the basis that he wants to punish Booker T for parody AND to get some revenge for killing 'his' show. And in the main event of Summerslam, he defeats Booker T, with an assist from Vince (although was it known to Rock?), Rock holds up his WCW Title... and promptly eats a chairshot from Tommy Dreamer. RVD is kicking away at Booker, before some WCW and WWE guys run out. Wait a moment... Tazz, Raven, Dudleys, Tajiri, Stevie... ECW BEATDOWN! Summerslam ends with Heyman gloating, the feed being cut in mid carnage as ECW brutalises all attempts at run ins from WCW or WWE.

3.Screw You, Screw You, and SCREW YOU. Thank you very much. - Now, ECW (which soon takes another name, thanks to the ECW lawsuit issue. I liked The Lunatic Fringe as was coined by Jed Shaffer, so we'll go with that) is set to bring down BOTH companies. Heyman wants to kill WCW for past slights, and WWF for current ones. The entire summer is taken up with the War, as WCW and WWF are forced to work together to try and stop Heyman and his flunkies. WCW guys are shown on equal footing with their WWF partners as they face off the Fringe, with now the occasional appearance of cross promotions. Austin makes an appearance on Nitro to team with Rock against The Impact Players, Kronik pops up as Enforcers to force The Dudleys to defend their WWF tag titles against The Hardys, stuff like that. Survivor Series sees the Fringe win the special 10 man elimination tag match, with RVD, Raven and Dreamer surviving thanks to Rock and Austin brawling, but The Rumble sees the Fringe fail in BOTH the WWF and WCW Rumbles. Some people join the Fringe (Austin joining after Survivor Series because he wants the Rock), some defect back, and there's still some switching around between WCW and WWF. This all comes to a head at Wrestlemania X8...

4.End of the InVasion, Start of the War. - There are several big matches, but Wrestlemania X8 ends with the biggest one of all. The Rock, representing WWF, and Booker T, representing WCW, managed by Ric Flair, taking on Austin & Chris Jericho of the Fringe, managed by Heyman, both Rock and Booker's WWF and WCW titles on the line, as opposed to the Fringe's existence. WCW and WWF win, the Fringe is defeated and gone, mass celebrations, WCW and WWF all come out to celebrate... And then Hulk Hogan and the nWo pop up on the Tron, and say "Execute Order 66."

Well, OK, not that, but something similar.

And WCW turns, beating down WWF, this Wrestlemania ending in pure chaos as the War kicks off.

5.One Full Year. - The War lasts all year, as WWE, now, and WCW (now run by the nWo after they bought/kicked Shane out) wage war against each other. Both sides use dirty tricks, Fringe members are brought back as weapons, moles, lise, tricks, double crosses, the works. It ends at Wrestlemania XIX, where in a Wargames match, Team WWE defeats Team WCW, killing WCW, giving WWE all their property and rights, bringing back Smackdown and ending the InVasion in huge, bloody style.



Ryan Byers

Note: For purposes of this fantasy booking scenario, I am assuming that all things that would have been beyond my control if I were actually running the promotion are beyond my control here. So, for example, I am not pretending that any injuries which occurred did not occur, and I am assuming that there is no viable outlet for a new WCW television program, much as there was not one in real life.

1.Buildup to the Invasion PPV



One of the complaints that I constantly hear about the invasion is that the WWF didn't fork over the money to buy out the Turner contracts of some of the bigger names in WCW, guys like Bill Goldberg, Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, and Ric Flair. However, I am of the opinion that none of those men would have been necessary in the early going if the WWF actually treated the WCW wrestlers that they did sign as major league stars. Booker T and Dallas Page were both on board for the invasion and were established main event talent, and it wouldn't have been a stretch at all to take the crew of Sean O' Haire, Lance Storm, and Mike Awesome, all of whom were solid upper-midcard guys at the time of WCW's demise, and convince WWF fans that they were competent wrestlers capable of giving guys like Kurt Angle, Kane, Chris Jericho, and the Hardy Boys runs for their money. If I were booking the initial stages of the angle, the entire period of time between WCW's first strike against WWF and the Invasion pay per view would consist of those top five WCW names - Booker, Page, O' Haire, Storm, and Awesome - consistently being booked as the equals if not the superiors of their WWF counterparts. WCW and WWF skirmishes might occasionally end in draws, but the vast majority would end with the WCW wrestlers getting the upper hand, even if it were by cheating or creating situations in which the numbers game played out to their advantage. This would have the secondary effect of keeping ECW out of the early stages of the invasion, as Heyman and crew were really only brought in as a band-aid for the storyline once the WWF had bungled the handling of the WCW wrestlers so badly. I would keep the concept of a ten-man "Inaugural Brawl" for the Invasion pay per view, but with the lineup being Austin, Taker, Kane, Angle, and Jericho vs. Booker, Page, O' Haire, Awesome, and Storm. The finish would be WCW Champion Booker T. pinning WWF Champion Steve Austin after the egos of the WWF stars prevented them from presenting a united front. This would all lead in to . . .

2.Invasion through Summerslam - Though he was an entertaining heel in backstage skits, I wasn't a huge fan of the turn of Steve Austin and his joining WCW. It made the whole angle feel like a story featuring WWF guys going up against other WWF guys, which, of course, killed a lot of novelty of the invasion. Instead, I would keep Steve Austin with Team WWF, maintaining an uneasy alliance with the likes of the Undertaker and Vince McMahon. With Austin having been pinned by Booker T. in the Inaugural Brawl, Summerslam would be built around Austin vs. Booker in a title versus title match. In a move sure to shock the vast majority of WWF fans, Booker would triumph over Stone Cold due to last-minute interference from Shane McMahon, resulting in both the WWF and WCW Titles coming to rest around the waist of Booker, making him the first man to unify those championships. Booker and the entire WCW roster would show up to gloat in the main event slot of the next evening's Monday Night Raw, only to be interrupted by a familiar line of "Do You Smell What the Rock is Cooking . . ."

3.Summerslam through Survivor Series - After sitting on the sidelines for several months due to his prior "suspension" by Vince McMahon, the Rock would return the night after Booker T defeated Steve Austin for the WWF Title, being the first WWF wrestler to successfully lead a charge of the company's locker room to beat WCW in a face-to-face confrontation, clearing them out of the ring to close the first Raw after Summerslam. The result would be a Rock-Booker T. feud, preferably one in which Booker is portrayed as being on the same level as the Rock instead of being his clear subordinate as was the case in the real-life Rock-Booker feud. This would set up a four-way match at Unforgiven for the unified WWF and WCW Titles, with Booker defending against the Rock, Steve Austin, and Shane McMahon. Rocky would be inserted due to his dominance in his return angle, Austin would be exercising his rematch clause, and Shane would be put in at the insistence of Stone Cold so that he could legally get revenge on him for costing him the championship at Summerslam. In the four-way, Austin would pummel Shane for the majority of the match with Rock and Booker going toe-to-toe until the final minutes, where the WWF talent would be neutralized just long enough for Booker T. to steal a pinfall on a battered Shane McMahon to retain the unified championships. A tag match between those four men would follow at No Mercy with Rocky getting a clean pin on Booker, clearly establishing him as the top contender to the WWF and WCW Titles, setting up . . .

4.Survivor Series through Royal Rumble - First of all, I would not choose to end the invasion storyline at the 2001 Survivor Series. The only reason it was ended there was because it had been bungled so badly that it was clear it needed to be put out of its misery. Instead, I would make the Survivor Series just another chapter in the story, with the main event being Booker T defending both the WCW and WWF Titles against the Rock, the man who had pinned him in a tag team match at the immediately prior pay per view. The Rock would win a competitive match, becoming the first WWF wrestler since the invasion began to score a decisive pay per view main event victory over a WCW wrestler. It would appear for a few fleeting moments that WWF had finally won the war until . . . GOLDBERG HITS THE RING. It would be at this moment, seconds after the WWF/WCW Title change, that Bill Goldberg would make his debut as part of the invasion, laying Rocky out with a spear. It would later be revealed that Goldberg was brought in as the ultimate weapon of WCW, the guy who Shane McMahon feels will be able to, once and for all, put the WWF to bed. He would go on to win the 2002 Royal Rumble, which would include both WWF and WCW wrestlers. Of course, this would set up . . .

5.Royal Rumble through Wrestlemania and Epilogue - With Goldberg winning the right to challenge for the WWF/WCW Title at Wrestlemania by virtue of his Royal Rumble win, the bad blood and the violence of the encounters between the two promotions would intensify greatly over the next several weeks, until it becomes clear to both Vince and Shane McMahon that the war needs to be brought to a conclusive end. Wrestlemania XVIII would be built around a best of seven WWF vs. WCW series, headlined by the Rock vs. Goldberg. The losing company would be forced to disband, while the winning company would gain control of all of the existing WWF properties, including Raw, Smackdown, and all pay per views. Of course, the series would be tied three to three at the end of the evening, when the Rock would finally pin Goldberg to retain his titles and bring the invasion storyline to an end. Over the course of the next several weeks on WWF TV, certain WCW wrestlers would show up to humbly acknowledge that the WWF won fair and square, which would turn them babyface and earn them spots on the Fed's roster. Other WCW guys would not do so, with their returns being held back to a later date as part of other angles. The result would be a blended upper card of some WWF and some WCW wrestlers, who would coexist as well as professional wrestlers ever do until being drawn together by a new threat a few months down the road . . . the threat presented by a revived ECW.



Julian Bond

1. WCW/ECW Takes Over, Claims WWE Championship/Retire WCW Titles - The one main thing that have always pissed me off about the booking behind the Invasion was that the WWE never truly made the WCW and ECW ever…EVER…look like a real legit threat. Sure they had strength in numbers and sure they had gotten some "good" wins and sure they were gunning for the top WWE people. But to myself (and to many others), the WWE never gave me the viewer a strong reason why the hell I should really and truly care about the "threat" the Invasion brought. So here I would change it where the WCW folks would take over (via getting some major…not just good…upset wins over the top talent) and would make a major impact by having one of their folks (probably RVD or even Booker T) win the WWE Title, without particularly bringing their tons and tons of former WCW Titles with them, i.e. retiring them with the death of WCW. I think that if WCW didn't come with their defunct title belts, they could have just started picking up the WWE's ones to make a real impact by stealing them away.

2. Austin Betrays WWE, Becomes Main "Advisor" of Alliance



While I am in the minority with saying that I truly love every moment of the Austin heel turn, I had always thought that the storyline in which Austin was suddenly the newly dubbed leader of the Invasion (after his "betrayal" of WWE) was kind of dumb. I loved when Austin was randomly kicking Invasion members' asses…but as a whole it was so damn damaging to the story because it made former bad-asses like Raven and Tazz look like straight-up bitches. So I would change it where Austin would still betray WWE, but instead of being the main leader of the Invasion he could just be their advisor in the background. If Austin was instead a sneaky cowardly bastard helping out the Invasion's cause instead of suddenly becoming their main savior and leader (which totally ruined the illusion of the collaboration between WCW/ECW), it would had made things so much believable.

3. Tides Turn at Unforgiven, WWE gains upper hand - Instead of having the Rock return and various WWE people (like Edge) win the WWE titles back at Summerslam, I would instead save the "turning of the tides" until Unforgiven (to give the Alliance a couple of good months of pure dominating) where WWE would make a significant comeback to start the beginning of the end for the storyline.

4. Alliance Starts Breaking Apart, Austin goes back to WWE side - Everytime I try to remember who turned on who when Austin betrayed WWE to face and then out of nowhere Angle turned on WWE also (only to turn face back again!!), it makes my head hurt really bad cause the shit made no real sense. So I would make it where there would be no stupid ass fake Angle "heel" turn (just wait to have it until after the Alliance story concludes) and have the Alliance group break down (keeping with the good tension between RVD and Austin) only to have Austin eventually go back as a face to return to WWE.

5. WWE "wins" at Survivor Series 2001 - Instead of the weird inclusion of Austin and Angle on the Invasion team, I would have had Jericho do his heel turn before the Vengeance PPV a month later to join the group along with the horribly underrated DDP to make more sense (Jericho making A LOT more sense since he was a long standing WCW star and a still fresh WWE person). And I would have it come down to Shane McMahon and the Rock (or Austin) to finally conclude things with the person who started the war in the first place…which technically was Shane with his buying of WCW.


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Stop this fantasy booking shit on this site, like any of it would really be better than what we got, you know two of WWF's highest buyrates ever during this 'terrible time'.....

Posted By: Please (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:00 PM

 
 
invasion angle was one of the best periods ever. great drama each week of who would jump sides and such. awesome matches and they played it perfectly.

Posted By: prolife (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:01 PM

 
 
X-Pac said it best a few months ago in an interview (crazy thought) - it was something along the lines of "Vince made the angle as big as he wanted, and it was never going to be 'epic'".

I agree. I hate the phrase, but I will use it here- it was what it was, and that's all that it was.

Sting, Nash, Steiner, Goldberg, Hall, Hogan, Bischoff, Benoit, HHH, and countless others were never going to be involved, so you had to play the hand you were dealt, and they did.


Posted By: PWR (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:04 PM

 
 
It really doesn't matter how it was booked. Most of the major stars were still under contract with Time Warner, so WCW would never have been represented properly.

Posted By: Bunkhouse Buck (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:28 PM

 
 
hubbard wins

Posted By: Guest#9713 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:29 PM

 
 
ECW shouldn't have been involved at all. That mix didn't help. People wanted WCW vs WWF period.

ECW should have been included into WWF when WCW was starting come out on top. Vince's ace in the hole. Then WCW gets NWO back to counter.


Posted By: ROH Commish (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:33 PM

 
 
No Chambers this week? Shame...

Posted By: Jonberg (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:43 PM

 
 
I like Jeremy's ideas the best though. Can't believe Aaron rebooked the fingerpoke of doom...

Posted By: Jonberg (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:44 PM

 
 
As shitty as the real invasion angle was i rather re watch that than any of these versions..

Posted By: Guest#7555 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:52 PM

 
 
Stop this fantasy booking shit on this site, like any of it would really be better than what we got, you know two of WWF's highest buyrates ever during this 'terrible time'.....

Posted By: Please (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 11:00 PM

You know that you don't have to read it if it's just going to piss you off, right?


Posted By: Guest#4074 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 12:03 AM

 
 
Not one of you can ever moan about the Invasion again because all of you have rebooked it horrendously.

The Invasion wasn't that bad, it just needed tweaked to take it to the level it could have been.

Points I'd address were:

1. Shane gets 50% of WWF airtime for WCW through his stake in WWF straight after WM17. WCW and WWF wrestlers do not compete against each other on free TV shows.

2. Invasion PPV replaces Judgment Day.

3. Austin does not lead WCW.

4. WCW has an alliance with ECW to bolster its roster, and WWF still has its stake in the show so Austin et all can still appear. Booker T, RVD, Steiner, DDP, Dudleys, Flair, Mysterio etc would have been strong enough to get them through the summer. Arguably recent WCW guys could have bolstered the pack, such as The Radicalz joining WCW.

5. King of the Ring is 50/50 WCW and WWF, Edge still wins.

6. Summerslam has the first big one on one WWF v WCW match with Shane agreeing to let the Rock challenge Booker T for WCW title, but Booker T wins to keep WCW strong.

7. Survivor Series sees the debut of nWo, and they again got WCW the win to keep the brand strong.

8. Goldberg debuts at the Royal Rumble and wins WCW's first shot at the WWF title.

9. No Way Out sees Goldberg beat Booker T for the WCW title.

10. WM18 has a title unification match between Austin and Goldberg, which Austin wins and brings the end of WCW.


Posted By: TenPointInvasionPlan (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 12:07 AM

 
 
i think hubbards sounds the most entertaining

Posted By: Guest#4666 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 12:08 AM

 
 
The Invasion was great the way it was. It was also the last time wrestling was entertaining.

Posted By: MBD (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 12:28 AM

 
 
great column once again. this is becoming one of my fav. articles on 411. i really don't know why any of you or me or we the readers weren't working for wwf at the time b/c we all can obviously shit out better storylines than the ones we got during that year.

Posted By: Csonkamaniac III (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 12:29 AM

 
 
The Invasion would have been better if you had me take Austin's place as the leader of the Alliance.

Posted By: Paul Roma (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 12:56 AM

 
 
The InVasion angle/era is still one of the greatest eras ever. You had all this talent in one place. Face it Rock was making Scorpion King. HHH tore his quad and Benoit screwed up his neck. Those 3 are out until they legit returned. The WCW that appeared on TV was what WCW was at the end. That was their roster the only people missing were Luger Jarrett and Animal. Everyone was gone at that point no nWo no goldberg (retired by steiner) No Sting he only came back for the last episode of Nitro (retired by Steiner). That was legitimately WCW. If you say lets bring back the nWo (hall hadnt been on since early 2000 and Hogan since Bash at the Beach) then WWF would have to have brought back past Superstars like Shamrock Foley Michaels Warrior and guys who were NOT wrestling in 2001. Only one of you realized you had to deal with what you had. WCW legitimately sucked that bad and deserved to be treated like that. It wasnt WWF vs WCW 1998 1992 or 1988. It was 2001 and the rosters had to reflect as such. Also each and everyone of you made Austin a bigger bitch than WWF made him. He would have walked out a year earlier than he did and Benoit being forced to ECW sooner would have resulted in PSYCHO killing everyone alot sooner. HE THOUGHT IT WAS REAL..

Posted By: Radtke (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:05 AM

 
 
Awesome read! Love this rebooking stuff

Hubbards win btw


Posted By: Guest#3201 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:11 AM

 
 
1. I read the first writer and his 'great plan' and just stopped reading the column.

2. Once again, you all do know that this period was a very profitable time for the company (Invasion PPV buyrate through the roof), and that is all that matters at the end of the day.


Posted By: Parish (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 02:08 AM

 
 
Hubbard's was interesting.
But the original backlash over the finger poke was one thing.
But hubbard is proposing putting the fingerpoke as a main event of a PPV. A PPV featuring a dream match of Rock/Hogan.
The crowd would boo, throw trash, and burn down the arena!
Just awful, and I mean that in the nicest way.
No thanks.


Posted By: Mike (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 02:19 AM

 
 
Wow, Hubbard. I wish you kept your crap in your own column. Jesus, that sucked.

Posted By: Guest#0878 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 02:23 AM

 
 
My two cents - I actually did think this through at some point and came up with something like this:
The WCW starts doing run-ins on WWF matches (like Lance Storm and Hugh Morrus did in real life, I recall) and it gets to the point where Vince has to give in. His product is crippled due to the constant interference and to get rid of it, he's demanding Shane will send his troops to fight over the company in a PPV. Shane agrees to do it.

During all this, there are numerous 'power outages' and instances of 'system failures' with the TitanTron, with static filling the screen - static interspersed with tiny, tiny clips of what appear to be wrestling matches. As the PPV gets nearer, these keep getting more and more common.

PPV - call it InVasion if you will. Whichever promotion wins more matches gets everything. A series of hard-fought battles leads to the final match - which WCW is winning. Just as the match is ending, power goes out, TitanTron starts spewing static - which dissolves into highlights of the original ECW with a soundtrack of Joey Styles screaming his head off. The ECW alumni rush the ring, beat down each and everyone in it and the show ends with Paul Heyman cutting a promo on how ECW has returned.

If you thought WWF-WCW war was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet. This time around, nobody knows what they'll see on Mondays and Thursdays. It might be RAW or Smackdown, it might be Nitro or Thunder, it might be ECW. Shows are taken over more often than not and the interference is constant. Finally this forces the owners of all three brands - Vince, Shane and Paul - to agree to a truce with WWF keeping RAW, SmackDown becoming Thunder and ECW getting control of what used to be Heat.


Posted By: woody (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 02:57 AM

 
 
Radtike hits the spot. Working with the talent they had, I don't think the WWE could have done the Invasion any better than they did. It was never ideal, but they needed Austin in the Alliance for the Alliance to carry any sort of weight whatsoever.

Posted By: TheMan (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 03:06 AM

 
 
I liked Huggart's take the best. I would have loved seeing what he wrote come about! Also what he wrote is give each guys the importance they deserve and doesn't force others to become more important than they should. Like what other writers have wrote, Booker T being made too important because "WCW needed to look good" is misguided and fans wouldn't have bought it(winning all the titles? lol).

But you know, if Benoit is injured(as he was) it put a road block in your story. I think the first Invasion pay-per-view should have featured a tag team match of Angle, Austin and Taker(three biggest stars of the WWF at the time) against DDP, Booker T and....Big Show. WCW needed star power and Show was a homegrown WCW guy. Have him turn on the WWF, becoming the Giant again. So you have equal power in both sides. WWF have Taker as big guy, WCW has Giant.

Also I would have include all the WCW mid cards that were featured in WCW at time. You could use the Natural Born Thrillers. Vampiro, some of the luchadores. Think Ray Mysterio and Kidman vs the Hardys. But all the former ECW guys like Awesome and Storm would be separared from WCW, they would be ECW guys.


Posted By: gorgio (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 04:58 AM

 
 
I prefer Jeffery Thomas's one

Posted By: TheCelt (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 06:31 AM

 
 
I hate to admit it, but Hubbard's fantasy booking blew the doors off your other clowns.

Damn, that virgin can book!


Posted By: Big Fat Fag's Dong (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 08:16 AM

 
 
411 i want 10 minutes of my life back for reading this garbage of an article,no-one cares about your opinion and ur self gratification for these angles

Posted By: this is crap (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 08:28 AM

 
 
A tag team match should have main evented Wrestlemania 18? Really Mathew?? Really??

Posted By: Bob (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 09:21 AM

 
 
My favourite one was Mathew Sforcina's. The bit where Hogan returns at Wrestlemania and tells WCW to go nuts is EPIC.

Posted By: Guy (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 10:00 AM

 
 
Realistically here are the ideas I would have made by not altering much of the storyline:

1) DDP gets a clean win over The Undertaker on PPV. He was the biggest WCW name to come over. It should have been booked better and had DDP vs. The Undertaker at SummerSlam instead of tag title crap.

2) Ric Flair obviously was signed with WWE. Bring him in before the Invasion angle ends. However bring him in with Vince. Have Flair say that Shane has ruined the legacy of WCW. In the Invasion big match at the end, instead of Austin turning on WWE, have Flair turn on WWE and re-join the Alliance.

3) Brock Lesnar is new face of extreme. Bring Lesnar during the invasion and have him be an unstoppable monster from ECW. Heyman can claim he would have debuted in ECW had they not gone out of business.

4) Hall would have failed, Nash would have been injured and Hogan being part of the Invasion wouldn't have worked. So no NWO, spend the money to buy out the contract of Goldberg and Rey Mysterio. They would have added enough star power along with Lesnar and Flair to be realistically taken seriously. In fact, fans might have even alligned with the WCW side.

WEll I'm no booker, just a fan but that's what I would have done.


Posted By: Ryan (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 10:06 AM

 
 
The Invasion was great the way it was. It was also the last time wrestling was entertaining.
Posted By: MBD (Guest) on February 10, 2010 at 12:28 AM

Stop following it then, dipshit. Aren't you the same moron who kept saying Jericho sucked and was the worst wrestler ever and should retire, then when JD Dunn totally owned you with statistics proving that he was in fact champion during one of the more sustainable periods of the early part of the decade you totally ignored it? Your opinion is worthless.

Jeremy Thomas wins.


Posted By: Cun\' (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 10:47 AM

 
 
Considering who was available I think the Invasion was pretty good for what we got (considering the "names" werent interested in getting involved til their contracts were up).

Shame so many IWCers have managed to convince the general wrestling populous that it was bad. Seriously, every article Ive read about the Invasion since it happened was "how awful it was". It actually wasnt, just 90% of the marks on this site dont remember it or never watched wrestling during that time period so they just agree with you all like blind sheep.

BTW this fantasy bullshit is getting real old, I didnt even bother reading your mark fantasy garbage.


Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 10:56 AM

 
 
DDP was so horribly underrated by the WWE, and it's a damn shame he got buried by Taker. His story and charisma is just amazing, it would've been very interesting if he was a focal point of the Invasion.

Posted By: Banz (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 11:30 AM

 
 
Interesting article, but I think it's a bit much to put an opinion piece basically reading "WE BOOK BETTER THAN THE WWE" as the top story on your site. Make you guys look like you're full of yourselves and far from professional.

Posted By: MaxGrouper (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM

 
 
"I am not pretending that any injuries which occurred did not occur, and I am assuming that there is no viable outlet for a new WCW television program, much as there was not one in real life."

Thank you!
Fantasy booking that admits some level of reality is so much better.


Posted By: Mike CT (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 12:36 PM

 
 
"Rock vs. Sting for the Championship. In the end, the WWF wins with Rock delivering the most electrifying move in sports entertainment to the Stinger. All of WCW's top talents are signed to the WWF"

Just for

A/ Sting singing with Vince while this very humble born again considers him the "devil" on earth

B/ Even worse having him sign to JOB The F'out in the biggest stage of them all to one of Vince's golden boys AND on his verge of retirement to Hollywood

Just for those two reasons, Hubbard FAILS.

P.S : btw you fail even more cause in the very FANTASY World of the IWC booking things, the ONE Match people would badly PAY to see involving Steven Borden and the WWE IS UNDERTAKER vs STING at MANIA (and no one else).


Posted By: STING >>>> WWF/E (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 12:50 PM

 
 
Stop this fantasy booking shit on this site, like any of it would really be better than what we got, you know two of WWF's highest buyrates ever during this 'terrible time'.....

Posted By: Please (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 11:00 PM



Thats because people wanted to see wcw vs wwf and big shock the buyrates and ratings started going down afterwards. I can't stand these tools that agree with everything VInce and company do when everyone involved in it called it a failure.


Posted By: Guest#9116 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:27 PM

 
 
i have to agree with some of the other commenters. there was no right way to book the invasion. the wwf killed wcw. they spent most of a decade telling their fans wcw was crap. the wwf fans were going to accept anything labeled "wcw".

Posted By: rey (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:29 PM

 
 
The whole "Invasion" angle was successful once, and that's when Hall came out on to WCW TV and gave his infamous monologue. That's because it seemed real. Once people got wise to the fact that, hey this whole nWo thing is just another angle, it lost its appeal, IMO.

Vince's Invasion angle never had that "hey, is this real?" feeling to it, so it was just never going to work as well as most people wanted it to.

The only way that the thing could have been successful is if the entire WCW roster remained intact.


Posted By: Guest#4770 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:32 PM

 
 
Stay away from my book. You smart marks would kill my company.

Posted By: Vince (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:41 PM

 
 
It's funny how everyone complains about how terrible the InVasion was in retrospect, but were huge fans of it at the time. The InVasion PPV did huge numbers and to this day has one of the highest non-Big Four PPV buyrates in history. The episode of RAW where WCW and ECW joined together and Stephanie was revealed as ECW's owner - I remember reading tons of reviews of that episode where people called it the greatest episode of RAW in history. Now everyone just talks about how much it sucked. Typical IWC

Posted By: Bob (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:43 PM

 
 
Jake Chambers?

Posted By: Where is he? (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:54 PM

 
 
I agree that the WWF/E had to play the cards they were dealt. They weren't going to get Hogan, Sting, Nash or Goldberg, which were the four main players (along with possibly Flair in a managerial role) that could have given the invasion angle legitimacy, so they had to stick with the 2000 talent.

However, that does not mean that they couldn't have played an effective angle that could have made the programming interesting enough--and possibly stretched it out enough for some of the sideline players' contracts to get involved.

Given the hand they were dealt, the biggest mistake of the invasion was how they handled ECW. While I did't have a problem with ECW and WCW unifying against the WWF (though a three-fed feud would have been far more interesting), having Stephanie be the new owner of ECW completely undermined the smaller brand and turned the whole thing into yet another part of the McMahon family saga.


Posted By: Michael L (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:54 PM

 
 
I've never been a big fan of fantasy booking in the first place but it can be interesting. At the very least though, I feel like you have to work within realistic parameters.

Benoit and Hunter were injured. You just can't use them. Yes, I understand the logic behind the Butterfly Effect saying that if the invasion started earlier than Austin/HHH vs. Benoit/Jericho would have never happened and Hunter would have never been injured, etc. That's a different ball of wax.

Also, if Flair wasn't going to sign with the WWE until November then you can't use him until November. If Hogan, Hall and Nash weren't ready to come in until February then you have to wait until February to use them in any capacity.

I know, I'm nitpicking since this is all make believe but for some reason working within those parameters makes fantasy booking much more interesting to me.


Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 01:56 PM

 
 
They shoulda brought luger in... Lex Luger was the man!

Posted By: Uncle carmi (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 02:10 PM

 
 
"Sara Undertaker"

You people in the IWC really have no idea how fucking retarded this is every time you type it out, don't you?

I shouldn't be surprised. You're the same people that thought Hunter Hearst Hemlsley was intentionally calling himself "Tripple H" back in 1997.


Posted By: IWC=Douches (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 02:35 PM

 
 
"No Chambers this week? Shame...

Posted By: Jonberg (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 11:43 PM"

Hey, Too Cool for the Room Guy: Nobody wanted to read Chamber's nonsense. That's why he wasn't included this week.


Posted By: Brad B (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 02:43 PM

 
 
Ok here's what I would have done different.

1st Shane was a baby face when the Invasion started. I would have kept him as one.

After WM 17 (Which stays the same for me.) Shane comes out and states how he wants to be different from his father. He says that he was once binded by his father's power and wants to create a company about tradition and competitiveness. He's tired of seening wrestlers get screwed over in this "sportz entertainment era.

Next few months WCW wrestlers interfere with matches. Mike Awesome wins the Hardcore title thanks to the 24/7 rule.

The battle lines are drawn and it's WCW vs. WWF at InVasion. But wait........Shane has brought in Paul Heyman as an adviser to WCW, and of course Paul brings in all his ECW guys with him.

The stipulation for the main event at Invasion is that the team that wins takes control of the Monday night tv slot and also receives one wrestler's contract from the other brand.

The main event at InVasion is Stone Cold, Jericho, Kurt Angle, Undertaker, & Kane vs. Booker T, DDP, RVD, Rhyno, with one mystery spot. That mystery spot is filled by the Rock who aligns with Shane.

The next night Jim Ross announces that it's the end of Monday Night Raw and next week it will become WCW Nitro. The WWF still has Smackdown. Shane and the Rock then come out to cut a promo. The Rock says that he is tried of being screwed with by Vince and that he likes Shanes vision for a wrestling company. He wants to help Shane rebuild WCW from the ground up. He also knows that Shane is a McMahon so he'll be watching him closely. Shane then takes the mic and says that since the Rock was a big factor in them winning at InVasion, he gets a title shot at the WCW title at SummerSlam. He says that it is also in the stipulation contract that the WWF has to allot WCW so many matches per PPV. Shane says that now it is time to take one wrestler from the WWF and bring him into WCW. He wants to bring in some one that has never been in WCW and that will shake the foundation of the wrestling world. Since he's already got the Rock he picks the Undertaker! The Undertaker is pissed.

The next Monday on Nitro the Undertaker is cause havoc because he doesn't want to be in WCW. Shane tells him that he must conform and this starts the UT heel character from late 2001-late 2002.

I'd have the WCW angle run for about a year and a half. I'd bring in Flair as a commissioner. He could then have his feud with the Undertaker. I'd have Hall and Nash come into WCW, but Hogan go to the WWF. Rey Meysterio would return to WCW.

I'd run an angle where Hall and Nash are in the audience at Smackdown and HHH and HBK show up at Nitro. They form a DX/NWO/Clique type group.


Posted By: dean1983 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 02:51 PM

 
 
They then trick Shane into thinking that HHH is a free agent. Hall and Nash win a tag match on Nitro giving HHH a WCW title match at Starrcade which he wins. HHH then goes on to the Royal Rumble and wins that too. Now the WCW Champ gets a shot at the WWF Champ at WM 19.

The Clique states that they run the wrestling industry and that they're taking over both the WWF and WCW. They make frequent run-ins at both shows often getting chased out by security or other wrestlers.


Vince has had it with WCW and wants RAW back. He challenges Shane for all the marbles at WM 19. It's WCW vs. WWF is every match except the main event which is Brock Lesner vs. HHH for the Undisputed Championship.

HBK retains the I.C. over Sting. The Outsiders become the Undisputed Tag champs with a win over the Hardy's.

The matches are all tied up until Stone Cold defeats Goldberg to give the WWF the win. HHH defeats Brock to become the Undisputed Champ. The WWF is the only company left standing and the NWO/DX comes out of WM 19 on top.


Posted By: dean1983 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 03:02 PM

 
 
Stop this fantasy booking shit on this site, like any of it would really be better than what we got, you know two of WWF's highest buyrates ever during this 'terrible time'.....

Posted By: Please (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 11:00 PM

You know that you don't have to read it if it's just going to piss you off, right?

Posted By: Guest#4074 (Guest) on February 10, 2010 at 12:03 AM

NO!! Because then I wouldn't be able to voice my crybaby opinion that noone cares about on here!! I am important!!! :(


Posted By: Please (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 03:10 PM

 
 
Stop following it then, dipshit. Aren't you the same moron who kept saying Jericho sucked and was the worst wrestler ever and should retire, then when JD Dunn totally owned you with statistics proving that he was in fact champion during one of the more sustainable periods of the early part of the decade you totally ignored it? Your opinion is worthless.
Jeremy Thomas wins.
Posted By: Cun\' (Guest) on February 10, 2010 at 10:47 AM

Somebody is a Jericho fan, my comments from 2 weeks ago must have really offended you if you can remember all of that. It's just wrestling, don't take it so seriously.


Posted By: MBD (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 05:42 PM

 
 
Trish Stratus, Torrie Wilson, Stacy Kiebler, and Stephanie McMahon all get into a huge feud which culminates in them posing for Playboy (especially Trish and Steph) as well as releasing a sex tape of the four of them pleasuring one another. Trish will always be hot and Stephanie was pretty damn fine at this time too. Vince really dropped the ball on this one!

Posted By: Zingy (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 06:03 PM

 
 
If you're going to do these fantasy booking columns, at least make them realistic. Some of these ideas are so unrealistic, they're just silly

Posted By: slim (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 06:56 PM

 
 
Each and everyone of you also killed all the comedy of the entire angle. Where is Austin/McMahon? Austin/Angle/McMahon? Moppy? Austin Appreciation night? The birth of the Hurricane? Kanyon's love letter to Lita (he spelled it as LETA)? Spike Dudley and Molly Holly and Austin calling Molly a bimbo. "What did you say to my girlfriend?" I called her a bimbo "You cant talk that way to my girlfriend." Everyone knows it. and the greatest chant ever WHAT?

Posted By: Radtke (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 07:16 PM

 
 
How predictable that Aaron Hubbard would make Benoit the centre piece of his shitty fantasy bullshit. This deluded, religious zealot virgin piece of shit will find any excuse to hero-worship his idol Benoit The Family Murderer.

Posted By: Guest#8440 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 08:10 PM

 
 
I miss DDP. He was so over in WCW too bad WWE fucked up with him.

Posted By: JM (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 08:25 PM

 
 
This goes to Hubbard:

I dont think the finger poke of doom would be necessary in your scenario. What if Hogan and Rock had a straight up dream match where if Rock won the WWF would be allowed to re-enter the war.(Since Flair and Shane have no control over the rogue NWO faction this stip sticks). Rock beats Hogan at Superbrawl,then the next night on Raw Vince exclaims he was the one who sent in the NWO to take the Championship from the WCW and that hes been in cahoots with Hogan all along.

This angers Rock who had no knowledge of this and questions whether Hogan fought him with everything he had(this leads to a rematch down the road), this also effectively keeps Rock face heading into Mania. Cuz everyone would have been booed outta the arena had the fingerpoke been done again.

Other than that i believe your rebooking of the Invasion was clearly above and beyond the best.


Posted By: ripstamps (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 12:01 AM

 
 
X-Pac said it best a few months ago in an interview (crazy thought) - it was something along the lines of "Vince made the angle as big as he wanted, and it was never going to be 'epic'".

I agree. I hate the phrase, but I will use it here- it was what it was, and that's all that it was.

Sting, Nash, Steiner, Goldberg, Hall, Hogan, Bischoff, Benoit, HHH, and countless others were never going to be involved, so you had to play the hand you were dealt, and they did.

Posted By: PWR (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 11:04 PM

Agreed, but even working within those restrictions, I think the scenarios Matt, Jeremy and Ryan put forward were a ton more interesting than what we got.

Bonus points, if played right, you come out with three new main eventers (DDP, Booker T and RVD) to kickstart the brand wars.


Posted By: Ray Church (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 12:02 AM

 
 
1) Make better deals. WCW needed its on show to make the invasion work. Otherwise it'd just be a massive trainwreck. If my memory serves me right this was at the same time that spike tv was trying hard to get the wwf. If I were Vince I would have made a 1 year deal with spike to put wcw on wednesdays and a one year extention with usa to keep raw on usa. It'd put the wwf in a better bargining postion. If that wasn't possible I'd just give WCW Smackdown. I would then make a deal with time warner to allow the WWF to use contracteed employes. Think about it Time warner was paying these guys millions of dollars to do nothing. While time warner may not have wanted wrestling to "tarnish" their networks I doubt they would object to making a little money off of them. Offer time warner 10% of the WCW PPV's gross. They'd be idiotic not to take it and not try to midagate the millions being wasted.

2) After mania have 2 masked men or hooded figures start attacking wrestlers on both wcw and wwf.
Have tazz or raven make it to the finals of the King of the Ring and in the match have Rhino come out and turn on Edge giving the win to Tazz/Raven and have the hooded figures reveal themselves as RVD and Tommy Dreamer. In tazz/raven's victory speech they say it was part of heymans plan all along that ex ecw wrestlers lay low and wait for the right time and the time would be three weeks from then at the frist One Night Stand where ecw wrestlers would challenge wwe/wcw champions for their belts. Edge would then challenge Rhino for the ecw championship, Raven/Tazz would challenge Austin for the wwf championship and RVD would challenge for the wcw championship.

3)Have the ECW insugency storyline concluded in Augest at Summerslam. Now at this point in time make sure there have been no WCW stars on wwf tv or vice versa (cept for mayb the hardcore championship).The war up to that point only being subtle sabotage or maybe a faction of turncoats in both promtions (The nwo was really working for vince all along and have austin turn right before summerslam).After Summerslam depending on if USA out bids spike or vice versa have the promotion on the netowrk that lost out say theyve been canceled, but they are going to challenge the other promtion to a best out of three PPV events and the winner of the three ppvs gets the time slot and the other gose out of buisness. All the matchs at these ppvs will be Champion vs Champion except for the multiman matchs (suvivor series matchs and war games).WCW loses but gets one last Starrcade as the final wcw event with HHH making his return to face off against Austin for the WCW championship.


Posted By: The Apostate (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 01:55 AM

 
 
First off at WM 17 during the 2nd match I would have 8 LWO members(Konnan,LizmarkJr,Silver King,Psicosis,El Dandy, Juventud G,Super Calo & La Parka)run in during the 6 man tag between Tazz/APA vs Right To Censor and just have a pier 6 brawl giving Jim Ross his 1st "BY GAWD" and Vince's 1st "GET THEM OUT OF THE BUILDING"moment of the night.Raven RETAINS the Hardcore Title in the next match when Mike Awesome,Hugh Morris & Lance Storm take out Big Show & Kane with chairs.Vince's 2nd "GET THEM OUT OF HERE!" Eddie G wins the European Title over Test with help from Rey Mysterio.Kurt Angle gets DQ'd in the next match when Booker T runs Benoit into the post on the outside.Vince comes out again but Booker leaves thru the crowd.The women's match btween Chyna & Ivory is stopped when Terry Funk runs out and decks Chyna and grabs a mic and screams "IT'S A MAN,IT'S A GODDAM MAN!!" Vince backs out of the Streetfight with Shane after Dusty Rhodes & Ric Flair attack him in the back.During the 3-way TLC match between The Hardy Boyz,Edge & Christian & The Dudley Boyz...Kronic, Sean O'Hare & Chuck Palumbo & The Steiner Bros come out. Each taking out a team.The Yeti wins the gimmick battle royal.Jeff Jarrett gets HHH DQ'd when he hits the Undertaker over the head with a guitar. Before the main event Jim Ross storms off.Stone Cold beats The Rock with help from DDP who gets a stunner for his trouble.Lights go out.When they come back on Stone Cold is laid out.Sting is standing over him.

Posted By: Michael'sHaze (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 02:07 AM

 
 
Shoutout to Byers for definitely having the best booking on this one...love a good slow burn.

Well, unless it's chlamydia.


Posted By: Jason King (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 06:43 AM

 
 
How predictable that Aaron Hubbard would make Benoit the centre piece of his shitty fantasy bullshit. This deluded, religious zealot virgin piece of shit will find any excuse to hero-worship his idol Benoit The Family Murderer.

Posted By: Guest#8440 (Guest) on February 10, 2010 at 08:10 PM

I thought exactly the same thing. Hubbard is a pathetic, confused hypocrite who pushes his religious conformity on others while jacking off to the cold-blooded murderer Benoit.


Posted By: Guest#6383 (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM

 
 
this fantasy booking shit is terrible! What's next? rebooking the 1st wrestlemania?

rebook this column back into something I would like to read


Posted By: Guest#5181 (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 05:49 PM

 
 
this fantasy booking shit is terrible! What's next? rebooking the 1st wrestlemania?

rebook this column back into something I would like to read


Posted By: Guest#4770 (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 05:54 PM

 
 
Idea: now the death of Survivor Series made me think...what if there was a SurSer *1986*? SummerSlams for '87 and back? These might be cool topics for future fantasy booking Top 5's.

Posted By: James (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM

 
 
Please let the INVASION die. How many times can we go over this failure.

Posted By: US (Guest)  on February 12, 2010 at 10:13 PM

 
 
Anybody that plays any sort of fantasy football/baseball, etc, or books fantasy leagues/pools, is automatically exluded from pissing about 'fantasy booking shit'

Why are you guys so pissed off? Does it hurt you in ANY way that some people find it fun to hypothetically rework the past? Who is pissing in everyones cornflakes this morning?


Posted By: 16s (Guest)  on February 27, 2010 at 02:37 PM

 


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