411s Wrestler of the Week 02.15.10: Week 46
Posted by Jeremy Thomas on 02.15.2010
The Pope and AJ Styles win big at Against All Odds, Show-Miz win the Unified Tag Team Titles, Tyler Black reaches the top of the ROH Mountain and more! Check out the latest edition of 411's Wrestler of the Week for all the details and for an updated look at the Year-End standings!
Welcome to Week 46, Year FIVE, of 411's Wrestler of the Week. A quick overview of the rules to kick things off for us as a reminder
Each writer chooses FIVE wrestlers from any promotion and each wrestler gets a point total attached to that ranking. It looks a little like this
Then we tally up the votes and the official 411 Wrestler of the Week is crowned. But wait, there's more! Each week the top SIX vote getters get a points value for their ranking which looks something like this
1st - 15
2nd - 12
3rd - 9
4th - 6
5th - 3
6th - 1
...and they go towards the 411 Wrestler of the Year award to be announced each year at WrestleMania. This will be posted every Monday. Let's see who wins this week
The Voting~! Chad Nevett
1) "The Pope" D'Angelo Dinero
After earning a shot in the 8-Card Stud Tournament by beating Orlando Jordan on Impact, the Pope went on to win the tournament by beating Desmond Wolfe, Matt Morgan, and Mr. Anderson to earn a shot against AJ Styles for the world belt. Definitely impressive.
2) Tyler Black: Won the ROH World Title from Austin Aries in a match that people didn't hate nearly as much as expected.
3) Mr. Anderson: Made it to the finals of the 8-Card Stud Tournament.
4) Big Show / Miz (tie)
5) AJ Styles
Aaron Hubbard
1) Tyler Black
We have a new Ring of Honor World Champion as Black finally wins the big one. The expected Backlash from ROH's ever-fickle audience has already started, but Black is the champion of the third largest wrestling company in America, and won back the adoration of the New York City Crowd in the process. Congratulations Mr. Black.
2) D'Angelo Dinero: He's a the freaking Pope! And now, he main evented a TNA PPV, upsetting Mr. Anderson to win the 8-Card Stud or some random lame name. Anyway, three big wins and the #1 contender position would be enough to put Dinero at #1 if it weren't for Black's win.
3) The Miz & Big Show: Defeated D-Generation X and The Straight-Edge Society to become new unified tag team champions, likely giving them something to do at 'Mania (MVP-Henry perhaps?) and making Miz a double champion.
4) Davey Richards
5) Rey Mysterio
ARI
1) The MizShow
Big Show found a new tag partner after losing the ability to team with Chris Jericho. Turns out he and The Miz are just as AWESOME together as his former partnership. This week they win the WWE Unified Tag Team championship in a three way elimination match on Raw and unseat DeGeneration-X, which is a very big deal in and of itself.
2) Tyler Black: Wins the ROH World Title in one hell of a main event battle during Eighth Anniversary Show in New York. Black shut up or converted many detractors that night and had the crowd in a frenzy for his championship win. That's a successful night and a taste of redemption for Black AND Ring of Honor.
3) The Pope D'Angelo Dinero: Goes over four mid-carders (one on iMPACT, three last night on PPV) and wins the 8-Card Stud Tournament. Main eventing Against All Odds PPV and a guaranteed main event title match against AJ Styles (or whomever is TNA Champion) in April shows that TNA has a serious desire to feature The Pope as a superstar for their product.
4) CM Punk / Rey Mysterio (tie)
5) Chris Jericho
Larry Csonka
1) Pope D'Angelo Dinero
Pope D'Angelo Dinero takes the top spot from me this week. He got his win back over Orlando Jordan, and then went into Against All Odds and defeated Desmond Wolfe, Matt Morgan and Ken Anderson to earn a shot at the TNA World Title. That's one hell of a week, and as we all know, POPE IS PIMPIN!
2) Show-Miz: The Big Show and The Miz won the Unified Tag Team Titles on Raw, defeating The Straight Edge Society and DX. Can they become as good as Jeri-Show? Time will tell
3) Tyler Black: Tyler Black finally won the ROH Title at the company's eighth anniversary show over the weekend. It has been a long time coming, and now Black has the ball and will have the chance to run with it.
4) AJ Styles
5) Rey Mysterio
JT
1) AJ Styles
Sorry but AJ had a big night himself. He continues to capture interest with his apparent transition into the next "Nature Boy". Tonight he successfully defended his title against a red hot (and unimpressed) Samoe Joe in a pretty long MOTN candidate. He is still the TNA champ and this gimmick has sparked more interest than several of its predecessors.
2) Pope D'Angelo Dinero: As its been said, he had a great night to finish out his week and grabbed a main event win at a PPV to earn a shot at the aforementioned AJ Styles' title.
3) Mr. Anderson: He basically had the exact same night Dinero did only he came up on the losing side of the main event.
4) Tyler Black
5) The Miz Show or however you'd like to word it.
Samuel Berman
1) Tyler Black
Defeats Austin Aries to become the thirteenth Ring of Honor World Champion.
2) D'Angelo Dinero: Won the 8-Card Stud Tournament.
3) Shinsuke Nakamura: Retained the IWGP Heavyweight Title over Manabu Nakanishi.
4) AJ Styles
5) CIMA & Gamma
Shawn S. Lealos
1) D'Angelo Dinero
He beat one half of the World Tag Team Champions, avenged his losses to Orlando Jordan and Desmond Wolfe, and gave Mr. Anderson his first loss since coming to TNA. He is now the number one contender to A.J. Styles' world title - a man he beat two weeks ago. This is how you build a star.
2) Tyler Black: Too little, too late? Who cares. He is the new ROH Champion.
3) A.J. Styles: People bitch about the "old guys" in TNA but in the first two PPVs of 2010, the main events saw A.J. Styles beat Christopher Daniels and now Samoa Joe. They are pushing the right guys.
4) ShowMiz
5) Davey Richards/El Generico
1) Tyler Black
No question here for me. That crowd was ballistic when Tyler Black won, but it was in the best way possible as Black did everything right in New York City. Seriously, when you can get the NYC crowd from split down the middle to 100% behind you in the last two minutes of a match, you are doing something right.
2) Show-Miz: Um, did everyone else forget that these guys pinned DX clean to win the Unified Tag Titles and make The Miz a double champion?
3) D'Angelo Dinero: Hey, the Pope went 4-0 this week and is now #1 contender to the TNA World Title. I have to give respect there.
4) AJ Styles
5) Davey Richards / El Generico (tie)
Ryan Byers
1) The Miz & The Big Show
With the way that they've been pushed ever since Edge & Chris Jericho won them almost a year ago, the WWE Tag Team Titles really have been elevated to the point that they're a legitimate, main event level championship, perhaps even being a notch higher than the WWE Title given how that belt has been positioned lately. Now, winning those Tag Team Championships clean in the middle of the ring are the Miz and the Big Show, one guy who I thought I would never see coming anywhere close to beating either member of DX and one guy who I thought was sure to flounder for the next several months without Chris Jericho by his side. Kudos to the new champions, and may they have a long and successful reign.
2) CM Punk: Punk didn't really accomplish that much in storyline terms this week, but, if you look at his performances from a non-kayfabe standpoint, he continued his role of great mic work and had some pretty damn in-ring performances as well. If his program with Misterio continues through Wrestlemania as rumored, it could be one of the most entertaining feuds on the card.
3) Shinsuke Nakamura: Nakamura earned his forth successful defense of the IWGP Heavyweight Title this past weekend by defeating a very game Manabu Nakanishi.
4) Tyler Black
5) TARU & Rene Dupree
Jasper Gerretsen
1) Tyler Black
Sure, it should've happened months, if not a year ago, but at the same time it seems like they've actually managed to get a positive crowd response out of the New York crowd, which is a huge achievement.
2) D'Angelo Dinero: The Pope has been on fire since coming to TNA, and his tournament win on Sunday was the icing on the cake.
3) AJ Styles: Sure, beating Joe isn't nearly as big a deal as it was two years ago, but it's still a great achievement.
4) The Miz/Big Show
5) Davey Richards
Jeremy Thomas
1) Tyler Black
Tyler Black, after long last, has become the ROH World Champion. Some say that it's happened too late, some say it shouldn't have happened at all, but regardless Black is at the top of the mountain and now that he has the ball, he has an opportunity to prove those people wrong. His win was one that galvanized the crowd and whatever happens from this point, he can say with certainty that he has finally arrived, and deservedly so in my book.
2) D'Angelo Dinero: Dinero had the best week out of the Big Two by winning the 8-Card Stud tournament to become the man who will challenge for the TNA World Title at Lockdown. It couldn't have happened to a better guy, and he's got the chance to show Vinnie Mac how much of a mistake it was in letting him go.
3) Show Miz: They may not have been the expected winners, but that makes Miz and Show's Unified Tag Title wins that much sweeter. Miz is now a double champion and I'm betting he's going to have a lot of fun with that.
4) A.J. Styles
5) Rey Mysterio/CM Punk
THE WINNERS~!
Special Mention Ken Anderson & Shinsuke Nakamura - 6 Votes
Fifth Place CM Punk - 7 Votes
Fourth Place AJ Styles - 21 Votes
Third Place The Big Show & Miz - 31 Votes
A big win over D-Generation X passes the Unified Tag Team Title into this new team's hands and makes Miz a double-champion.
Second Place D'Angelo Dinero - 41 Votes
Dinero beats Orlando Jordan to get into the 8-Card Stud Tournament on Impact and then makes it through Desmond Wolfe, Matt Morgan and Mr. Anderson to become the number one contender to the TNA World Title.
Wrestler of the Week Tyler Black - 44 Votes
After a lengthy chase, Tyler Black defeats Austin Aries to become the Ring of Honor World Champion and our Wrestler of the Week!
Year-End Standings~!
The two front-runners, CM Punk and AJ Styles, both gain points this week, with the TNA World Champion gaining a few more than the Straight Edge Savior to close the gap to seventeen. Tyler Black hops into the top ten with his first place finish and the Pope D'Angelo Dinero is just a few short points outside of the top fifteen, and with the Miz now right behind him. The Big Show, Mr. Anderson and Nakaumura all get a little bit higher in the rankings, but with six weeks left to go this has become a two horse race. Who will pick up the big prize come WrestleMania weekend? Only one way to find out!
Let's check out the Year-End Standings!
1. CM Punk 137 (SmackDown)
2. AJ Styles 120 (TNA)
3. Rey Mysterio 86 (SmackDown)
4. Jeff Hardy 85 (TNA)
5. John Morrison 70 (SmackDown)
6. Edge 67 (SmackDown)
7. Randy Orton 59 (RAW)
8. Chris Jericho 55 (SmackDown)
9. John Cena 53 (RAW)
10. Kurt Angle 46 (TNA)
10. Tyler Black 46 (ROH)
12. The Undertaker 42 (SmackDown)
12. Naruki Doi - 42 (Dragon Gate)
Posted By: Cole Slaw (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 12:32 PM
BERMANN!!!!
Posted By: Jamal (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Fuck Tyler Black and fuck ROH. I may not be a Dinero fan, but he deserves #1.
Posted By: Former ROH Fan (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Ryan Byers:
"CM Punk didn't really do anything out of the ordinary this week, but I hate TNA so bad I'm going to stuff the voting box and hope he doesn't catch up."
Posted By: Scotty Flamingo (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 12:55 PM
Well, this should be good...
Posted By: The REAL MP (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 01:05 PM
Byers screwed the Pope!!!
Posted By: Guest#0458 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 01:09 PM
lol Byers and Berman.
I would have thought Pope would be #1 but winning the ROH belt is still a pretty big deal, Black deserves a lot of props.
Anderson should have gotten a little more love though, making it to the finals is still pretty good. At least more love than CM Punk of all people.
Posted By: Deathpool (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 01:23 PM
Wait a minute, Punk gets #2 this week for being adequate at his job? For real? 'cause there's a whole host of people in the wrestleverse who didn't eff up this week.
Posted By: Norway (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 01:24 PM
This was an eventful week. In a lesser week, AJ Styles could've gotten #2 and would've been a lot closer to dethroning Punk. I think this fact alone might have cinched in Punk's chances as Wrestler of the Year.
Posted By: Veej (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 01:32 PM
Ryan Byers: "the WWE Tag Team Titles really have been elevated to the point that they're a legitimate, main event level championship, perhaps even being a notch higher than the WWE Title given how that belt has been positioned lately."
Wow - it's funny how you like to think of yourself as some insider smark when you are probably the biggest WWE mark of them all. The tag titles may mean more now than they did a year ago, but that is only because they were less than worthless a year ago. They are still just shiny props to be chucked around at will - wait until after Mania and they will be back to meaning nothing again.
To say that they are "a notch higher than the WWE Title" has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on this site, no wonder you are ridiculed here on a weekly basis. If they are a notch higher than the WWE title, why are they not even being defended at the next PPV? Where is the six team elimination chamber match for the tag titles? Oh that's right, there isn't even six credible teams in the entire promotion, and the current champions are a thrown-together team who only began interacting with each other a few weeks ago. The tag titles obviously mattered so much to HHH and HBK...
Posted By: Truth (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 01:41 PM
WHAT?
Posted By: Stone Cold Steve Austin (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 01:48 PM
To Ryan Byers: If you can't be objective, ur ass need to stop voting
Posted By: J. Marquis Mack (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 01:58 PM
I hope everyone on here who bad mouths Tyler Black and ROH dies as soon as they hit enter on their limited edition "Hulkster" keyboards........
Posted By: kingave66 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:03 PM
AJ Styles sucks. Please stop voting for him.
Posted By: Guest#6248 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:09 PM
That JT guy is a complete joke.
Styles first after that horrible match? Seriously?
Posted By: Guest#0452 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:11 PM
JT you sir are an idiot. Styles as #1 over Pope, Show Miz, and Black is a travesty. Oh and SMH at Styles 'capturing interest' when his Neo Nature Boy is god awful with some seriously embarraing promos.
Posted By: Guest#1202 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:18 PM
Dear 411 writers,
No one cares about ROH or watches it. Not even the 200 nerds who show up at their tiny events.
Thanks,
The Rest of the World who thought the former Elijah Burke should have won.
P.S. Get rid of Ryan Byers. He is a joke who doesn't even watch wrestling. How can you vote when you have no clue what is happening?
Posted By: wwefan12 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:20 PM
Love CM punk, but give the fanboy shit a rest guys. He didn't do anything this week. The integrity of this thing goes down the toilet if you are just trying to make sure to give him votes to pad his year end total
Posted By: Hercules Strongs (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:24 PM
Wow. So, Punk gets votes basically just for being a wrestler? He didn't actually accomplish anything.
Can you say "We just don't want a TNA guy to win this 'contest', so we'll find any reason we can to keep him from gaining a lead"?
Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:32 PM
A.J. Styles didn't get much love this week, in spite of retaining his title at a PPV. Some people didn't even vote for him at all. I hope we're not freezing him out so your hero Punk can win Wrestler of the Year....
Posted By: MikeyCovs (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:47 PM
"The Big Show and The Miz won the Unified Tag Team Titles on Raw, defeating The Straight Edge Society and DX. Can they become as good as Jeri-Show? Time will tell "
No, but they can get remotely close.
"Nakamura earned his forth successful defense of the IWGP Heavyweight Title this past weekend by defeating a very game Manabu Nakanishi."
Fifth, actually.
Posted By: B.W.G. (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:55 PM
Ryan Byers: "the WWE Tag Team Titles really have been elevated to the point that they're a legitimate, main event level championship, perhaps even being a notch higher than the WWE Title given how that belt has been positioned lately."
Wow - it's funny how you like to think of yourself as some insider smark when you are probably the biggest WWE mark of them all. The tag titles may mean more now than they did a year ago, but that is only because they were less than worthless a year ago. They are still just shiny props to be chucked around at will - wait until after Mania and they will be back to meaning nothing again.
To say that they are "a notch higher than the WWE Title" has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on this site, no wonder you are ridiculed here on a weekly basis. If they are a notch higher than the WWE title, why are they not even being defended at the next PPV? Where is the six team elimination chamber match for the tag titles? Oh that's right, there isn't even six credible teams in the entire promotion, and the current champions are a thrown-together team who only began interacting with each other a few weeks ago. The tag titles obviously mattered so much to HHH and HBK...
Posted By: Truth (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 01:41 PM
Damn, that's some ruthless ether. Yeah everyone on here knows Byers is a moron, this is the same guy that once voted Lance Cade at No.1 for hanging out with Chris Jericho for a few weeks, and then last year voted Eric "future endeavoured" Escobar at No.1 because he beat Matt Hardy to qualify for the Bragging Rights 5v5 match... a week later he lost his spot in the match...
Posted By: Guest#0505 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 03:09 PM
You know It would be interesting to see what Wrestler got the most points of all time.
Posted By: Guest#6940 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 03:29 PM
Okay seriously you people who voted for CM Punk, he lost twice this week and was also the first one eliminated on Monday. I know most of the internet has a hard on for him but give me a break.
Also The Pope was robbed plain and simple this week. The Biggest week and Biggest wins of his career should have made him an easy number one pick.
Posted By: Michael (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 03:29 PM
to the CM Punk Haters in the comment section:
CM Punk should have been #1 on this list this week SIMPLY for the "Go get me Jared from Subway" promo.
Posted By: Jamal (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 03:39 PM
Ryan Biased needs to stop voting if he can't be objective!
Seriously he never gives TNA any vote, although the pope or aj should have at least been in the top 5 (i'm not demanding a number 1´, but honestly some of the TNA workers deserve a spot in the top 5 this week)
Posted By: Ryan Biased (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 03:49 PM
P-O-P-E
Posted By: Reichou (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 04:14 PM
Y'all need to get off CM Punk's dick.
Also...
"I hope everyone on here who bad mouths Tyler Black and ROH dies as soon as they hit enter on their limited edition "Hulkster" keyboards........
Posted By: kingave66 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:03 PM"
I would kill for such a keyboard.
Posted By: Yeppers (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 04:42 PM
Some of your votes are laughable. Miz and Show got a #1 spot? They won the MEANINGLESS WWE TAG TITLES! That means nothing! Black, like him or not, won the ROH, WORLD TITLE! Pope won a big touney, much bigger a deal than winning the tag titles. You guys are crazy and I question your ability to determine what means something in wrestling.
Posted By: THE TRUTH (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 05:10 PM
You people act like winning Wrestler of the Week on 411 is the most important title in the industry or something. I'm sure Pope is really upset he didn't win because a few WWE fans don't watch/pay attention to TNA and happen to get a vote. Might even kill himself.
Posted By: Acid (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 05:15 PM
Csonka, please Pope Slap Byers.
Posted By: Guest#1658 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 05:53 PM
"People bitch about the "old guys" in TNA but in the first two PPVs of 2010, the main events saw A.J. Styles beat Christopher Daniels and now Samoa Joe. They are pushing the right guys."
I know they're both bald, but I suspect you are thinking of Angle rather than Daniels. Besides, last I checked, Daniels was in his late 30s
Posted By: Donners (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 06:10 PM
1. Pope D'Angelo Dinero
2. Tyler Black
3. Chris Jericho
4. AJ Styles
5. The Miz & Big Show
This is how this week should look. Can't believe Jericho didn't get anything other than a token 5th place vote from ARI. He pinned the Undertaker! The World Champion! CM Punk jobbed out twice yet still gets the misplaced fanboy love votes.
Posted By: Guest#5794 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 06:14 PM
The Mizshow? Really?
Posted By: Guest#4421 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 06:20 PM
"Wow. So, Punk gets votes basically just for being a wrestler? He didn't actually accomplish anything.
Can you say "We just don't want a TNA guy to win this 'contest', so we'll find any reason we can to keep him from gaining a lead"?
Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 02:32 PM"
^^This.
Posted By: Some Guy (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 06:30 PM
The Unified Tag Team Championships are at this moment in time highly coveted and extremely valuable. When Edge and Chris Jericho captured the belts they elevated the worth of the titles establishing them in the main event scene. When Jerishow was formed Jericho and Big Show proved to be at the center of every program battling an array of superstars. What other belt guarantees appearances on both Raw and Smackdown? The belts have been so strongly promoted in the past year. New tag teams like MVP/Mark Henry and the Hart Foundation have been given the spotlight thanks in part to the Unified Tag Team Titles. Whichever team holds these belts are given instant credibility.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 07:01 PM
Why is Byers still allowed a vote? TARU and Rene Dupree? Whatever it is they did wasn't important enough to even write a blurb about, but he really thinks they made a better showing this week than The Pope?
Posted By: saneiac (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 07:51 PM
Jericho pinned The Undertaker and he only got ONE mention?
TNA bias confirmed.
Posted By: Guest#9768 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 07:56 PM
to the CM Punk Haters in the comment section:
CM Punk should have been #1 on this list this week SIMPLY for the "Go get me Jared from Subway" promo.
Posted By: Jamal (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 03:39 PM
Agreed. And to the people saying TNA's being deliberately held down...Joe won WOTY previously, so that idea is shot.
Posted By: Jason (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 08:06 PM
jericho beats the undertaker almost cleanly and is shown NO love? wow, just wow.
Posted By: hiro (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 08:39 PM
Can't argue there, i knew it would either be Tyler Black or The Pope. Both accomplished something big in their respective companies.
Tyler has finally been given the ball (albeit late) and we shall see if he can carry it.
Meanwhile it looks like TNA has put some heavy stock into Pope after AAO. It's one thing to simply give Pope a random title shot, but TNA put Pope in that "Stone Cold/King of the Ring 96" type position and had him earn it through a tournament and still go "against all odds" to win it.
I don't mean to sound bias, but I woulda gone with Pope. I expected TNA to have Angle win the tourney, but instead they set up a future star in Pope. Meanwhile ROH has had Tyler Black in the future star position for sooo long that his title win almost seemed anti-climactic from where was sitting (unfortunately couldn't be there to see the live reaction). Still a huge accomplishment for Tyler Black though.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 08:52 PM
Shouldn't someone has obviously biased against an organization not be allowed to vote? Byers is absolutely ridiculous.
Posted By: August (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 09:00 PM
Fire Ant got screwed.
Posted By: Sink (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 09:06 PM
Ya know, i respect Byers opinion cus he's entitled to it just like the rest of us are entitled to ours. and I like that he usually goes out of his way to give some indy feds and japanese promotions a nod...
BUT...to completely overlook The Pope's week just screams...I HATE TNA. THAT I don't like. TNA get's a lotta shit thrown at them by the IWC (some of which they deserve), but they did a phenomenal job of building D'Angelo Dinero and put him over huge at the ppv. This is how you push a young star; it's the essence of what makes this "competition" between WWE and TNA so great. The ball gets dropped with a talented young prospect in one company. That young prospect gets the opportunity to pick up the ball in another company and runs it all the way in for a touchdown. Pope is sooo madly over right now with the TNA audience and TNA has allowed him to be madly over with their audience.
How can he not even be on your list, Ryan Byers???
please respond.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 09:10 PM
The Unified Tag Team Championships are at this moment in time highly coveted and extremely valuable.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 07:01 PM
Right on the latter (people actually care about title matches; they, and by extension the tag division, are contributing to the 'E's drawing power for the first time in at least five years), wrong on the former (you notice how the Colons have been the only champs who actually seemed to genuinely kayfabe care about being champs?)If they keep up the momentum the division has gained, though, they get to that "coveted" point.
Posted By: B.W.G. (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 10:00 PM
How can he not even be on your list, Ryan Byers???
please respond.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 09:10 PM
Since you asked nicely:
I don't watch or follow TNA. I don't feel comfortable voting for guys from a certain promotion when half the time I have no clue what is going on in that promotion.
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM
How can he not even be on your list, Ryan Byers???
please respond.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 09:10 PM
Since you asked nicely:
I don't watch or follow TNA. I don't feel comfortable voting for guys from a certain promotion when half the time I have no clue what is going on in that promotion.
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM
Wow. That has to be the lamest justification I have ever seen in my life. As bad as TNA is, it's hardly rocket science to explain certain things. For example - AJ/Joe/Daniels recently had a ***** match. Therefore, they warrant votes. Last night, The Pope/Elijah Burke won a tournament to crown a new No.1 contender, beating 3 men in one night, by far the biggest moment of his career to date. The only reason you refuse to acknowledge TNA is because it's your pathetic writer "gimmick" and you love the attention it brings, you sad, sad little man. Can Csonka or Ashish please get this tool the fuck off this website now please?
Posted By: Guest#7409 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 10:43 PM
Wow. That has to be the lamest justification I have ever seen in my life. As bad as TNA is, it's hardly rocket science to explain certain things. For example - AJ/Joe/Daniels recently had a ***** match. Therefore, they warrant votes. Last night, The Pope/Elijah Burke won a tournament to crown a new No.1 contender, beating 3 men in one night, by far the biggest moment of his career to date.
Posted By: Guest#7409 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 10:43 PM
Okay, in that case, I'll start voting for TNA when people who don't pay attention for New Japan start voting for New Japan . . . because they should be able to understand why something is important there even if they don't follow it.
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 10:57 PM
Byers' picks > JT's picks
Posted By: Guest#4568 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM
This week is pretty easy to me. All things considered:
Volador, Jr.
Posted By: DocSarpolis (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 11:12 PM
Okay, in that case, I'll start voting for TNA when people who don't pay attention for New Japan start voting for New Japan . . . because they should be able to understand why something is important there even if they don't follow it.
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 10:57 PM
That's a flawed argument; nothing in Japan is important.
Posted By: poffo316 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 11:34 PM
Okay, in that case, I'll start voting for TNA when people who don't pay attention for New Japan start voting for New Japan . . . because they should be able to understand why something is important there even if they don't follow it.
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 10:57 PM
That's a flawed argument; nothing in Japan is important.
Posted By: poffo316 (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 11:34 PM
There are at least two (and arguably three) Japanese promotions that are more popular in Japan than TNA is in the United States.
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 11:55 PM
wrong on the former (you notice how the Colons have been the only champs who actually seemed to genuinely kayfabe care about being champs?)
Posted By: B.W.G. (Guest) on February 15, 2010 at 10:00 PM
Not true. Jericho bragged about being a tag team champ constantly, and reveled in being able to appear on any show he chose, ECW included. I expect Miz to behave the same way.
Posted By: saneiac (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 12:31 AM
Can 411 writers start voting for guys from Japan without a hassle now that Antonio Inoki is being inducted into the Hall of Fame and New Japan Pro Wrestling was mentioned by name on Raw this week?
Posted By: Berenstein Von Raschke (Registered) on February 16, 2010 at 12:32 AM
Why the FUCK isn't my boy Cena #1? He's better than all these lame ass indie wannabes put together!
Posted By: ICP Juggalo 4 Lyfe (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 02:46 AM
Ryan Byers, as usual can't pick squat.
Posted By: Hoodoo91 (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 05:23 AM
Okay, in that case, I'll start voting for TNA when people who don't pay attention for New Japan start voting for New Japan .
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 10:57 PM
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so you are screwing talented workers for your own private agenda?
Posted By: Guest#0320 (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 07:43 AM
BOTH POPE AND ANDERSON GOT ROBBED BIG TIME !
So Pope wins THREE Straight Matches on a row CLEAN against Wolfe, Morgan and Anderson to earn a TITLE SHOT to the next PPV of the second biggest promo in the country and he is NUMBER TWO ONLY ?
Mr Anderson won Three Matches out of four this week (impact included) and delivered golden promos the whole night on a PPV this sunday and is NOWHERE to be seen ?
411 mania staff = YES WE Fail at putting OVER the RIGHT GUYS (but talking about Tequila and Kardashian crap lives you succeed.....)
Posted By: Epic Fail for 411 Staff (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 08:17 AM
Okay, in that case, I'll start voting for TNA when people who don't pay attention for New Japan start voting for New Japan . . . because they should be able to understand why something is important there even if they don't follow it.
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 15, 2010 at 10:57 PM
Shows how much attention you pay to this column, as Japan guys often get votes when a major win happens.
Posted By: August (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 10:14 AM
Its a long fall from the top of a montain.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 12:38 PM
tyler black?i didn`t even know he won smth this is ridiculious
Posted By: ds (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 05:04 PM
Can 411 writers start voting for guys from Japan without a hassle now that Antonio Inoki is being inducted into the Hall of Fame and New Japan Pro Wrestling was mentioned by name on Raw this week?
Posted By: Berenstein Von Raschke (Registered) on February 16, 2010 at 12:32 AM
Hahahahahahahaha
Oh wait you're serious?
Posted By: Guest#0155 (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 08:19 PM
First off, let's all get this straight; The Pope deserves placement at the top 2 spots hands down, along with The Phenomenal One. Next, congrats to Black on his win. From what I've heard he had a Rocky-like moment when he won the ROH Title. Next, Mr. Mizanin has come a LONG way from hosting SmackDown. Who would've thought he'd get such a push as he's gotten? I mean really, current reigning US and Unified tag champion? Very impressive. I also enjoyed the AJ/Joe title match and the tourney TNA put on this month. Good work by them. Let's all remember TNA is still a baby company, and babies constantly mess up before they learn better.
Posted By: supershock360 (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 08:55 PM
I gotta also give a big shout out to Mr. Anderson for the great run he's been having, including the highlight of his run so far, the AAO 8-Card Stud Tournament. Even though he lost for the first time in TNA, it was still a strong loss for him against another newcomer like he should.
Posted By: supershock360 (Guest) on February 16, 2010 at 09:04 PM
Bryan Danielson a.k.a. Daniel Bryan made his debut on ECW by being shown in a picture! He's MY SHOE-IN for number one wrestler of the week next week yay!
Posted By: Berenstein Von Raschke (Registered) on February 16, 2010 at 10:39 PM
I'll be voting for CM Punk because he was announced as a mentor for NXT.
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 16, 2010 at 11:32 PM
Chris Jericho deserved to be in the top 5, his first ever win in a 1 on 1 match against the current World Champion The Undertaker!
Posted By: Latex (Guest) on February 17, 2010 at 06:21 AM
Byers is the only guy that actually makes you feel like a loser for reading this site. It used to also be westerfield, or whatever that guys name was
Posted By: Harsh (Guest) on February 17, 2010 at 08:34 AM
I'll be voting for CM Punk because he was announced as a mentor for NXT.
Posted By: Ryan Bias (Registered) on February 16, 2010 at 11:32 PM
You're so funny... or not. Seriously, I don't really care about this Wrestler Of The Week stuff, seems like everyone takes it too seriously, but I gotta say - you come across as a complete tool. It seems pretty obvious that you are a complete douchebag in real life.
Posted By: Guest#8665 (Guest) on February 17, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Aaron Hubbard said about Miz & Big Show winning that it will "likely giving them something to do at 'Mania (MVP-Henry perhaps?)"
Sorry Aaron, but I would be stunned if they did that match at Mania. More likely MizShow will get their win back on RAW in a few weeks in a meaningless match. MVP & Henry aren't over. In fact, no teams are really over now that DX look to have split (notice HHH didn't have any DX merchandise on this week on RAW?) and Punk looks to be heading for a singles feud with Rey Mysterio. What is much more likely is that both Show & Miz will end up in the MITB Ladder Match, along with everyone else who has nothing to do (take your pick from Kofi, Morrisson, Christian, Swagger, MVP, Shelton, Bourne, Carlito, Matt Hardy, Ziggler, McIntyre, Tatsu, Kozlov, Ezekiel Jackson, Regal, plus even Henry, Kane or Khali for the token big-man entry). To be fair, there is so much mid-card talent around now with the end of ECW that there is the potential for a really good MITB match - I'd quite like to see something like Christian v Miz v Morrisson v Kofi v Swagger v Bourne v Shelton v Khali. Lots of high flyers, with Khali in there for the jokes. I predict Miz or Morrisson will win the MITB this year. Of course, this would leave out Big Show, MVP & McIntyre however - none of the other names I've listed really warrant a place on the Mania card IMO.
Posted By: Guest#4314 (Guest) on February 17, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Byers is the only guy that actually makes you feel like a loser for reading this site. It used to also be westerfield, or whatever that guys name was
Posted By: Harsh (Guest) on February 17, 2010 at 08:34 AM
LOL!! I totally remember that guy! Jared Westerfeld I think (not totally sure about that tho.) Whatever his name was, that guy was a fucking pompous douche! Yes he was very similar to Byers now you mention it - he also thought he was above everyone else on the site, used a really pretentious, I'm-better-than-you writing style, and generally acted like a complete dick. Didn't that Westerfeld guy pretty much get run off here by all the readers turning on him?
Posted By: Guest#7387 (Guest) on February 17, 2010 at 10:50 AM
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