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The Contentious Ten 03.01.10: Undertaker's Streak Matches
Posted by Aaron Hubbard on 03.01.2010



Not a lot of comments worth mentioning this week, as most of them were either affirmation of what I said, or a misunderstanding of what a disappointing match is. It is a match where you expected something special, either a quality main event, an all time classic, or a spectacle, and it just failed to deliver. However, here's a few that peaked my interest.

How thick are some of the commenters - it's not worst, it's most disappointing. Big difference!!!

I actually think Lesnar v Angle might deserve to go on there. Those two had phenomenal matches, but WM 19 was not their night, although there were obviously circumstances around that.

Although Hubbard was only 13 at the time, so he won't really understand.

Posted By: Guest#1447


Well, I actually thought Wrestlemania 19 was their best match, but to each his own. HOWEVER, this does rank as one of my personally most disappointing matches. At the time, I was part of the Rose Hill Middle School Wrestling Team (GO ROCKETS!), and well, REAL wrestlers don't exactly care for pro wrestlers. I was hoping that Angle, the Olympic Gold Medalist, and Lesnar, the two-time NCAA champion, would have a mat-wrestling clinic that evoked the amatuer style, so that I could shove it in their faces. Instead, they had a very WWE-ish pro wrestling match with some suplexes thrown in. It's a great pro wrestling match, but it's one of those things that just made it clear how different the two worlds are.

So yeah, I actually had more investment in that match because I was a middle-school amatuer wrestler. I didn't think it really deserved to be on the list, I just had more personal investment in it.

Most disappointing?
Money in the Bank, all of them.

Posted By: Shelton Benjamin Fan


I feel your pain. Maybe this year, since the whole thing seems to be losing it's purpose.

I think you would enjoy matches better if you lost the elitist smark attitude towards wrestling. Forget the psychologies, the work rate, the whtever that makes a match good even if 2 vanilla midgets go at it..
Just enjoy it unadulterated entertainment. Loosen up a little.

Posted By: smarky mark


No amount of mark-washing could make me enjoy a Sid match. No amount of loosening up could fix the fact that Orton vs. Triple H was one of the worst booked matches in Wrestlemania history. And by the way, I DID enjoy that match and have it sitting at ***1/2. I am probably the biggest mark on this site (Double checks: Nope, Wilcox is still writing for the music session).

I enjoy pro-wrestling and have very few biases. I don't like when wrestlers who have two minutes worth of work in them get twenty minutes. I don't like watching Luchadors throw meaningless flips, dives and armdrags out only to win on some random roll-up. And I don't like watching blood feuds settled with "wrestling". Oh, and I don't like inane storylines that make zero sense and insult my intelligence. That's about it. Other than that, if it's wrestling, I enjoy it.

Remember, you're talking to a guy who almost died laughing watching the Jerry Springer segment. I'm loose enough.

hogan/warrior II-halloween havoc
hogan/sting-starcade
HHH vs scott steiner-royal rumble
hogan vs flair-for the very first time

Posted By: rey


None of those matches happened at Wrestlemania, and thus would have a very difficult time being on the Most Disappointing Wrestlemania Matches.

Orton vs HHH last year wasn't too bad of a match. It's just people want 5 star classics every second of every show, and that just wasn't going to happen.

Posted By: Miz says Really?


I can't think of anyone who expects or wants a show where the matches are consistently higher than ***. Honestly, all a show would have to do to get a perfect ten from me is have a ***** match, two **** matches, two ***1/2 matches, and no crap. Just the thought of watching three hours of ***** matches is exhausting.

HOWEVER, we do have the right to expect a ****+ match in the main event of the biggest show of the year. And Triple H vs. Orton was slow, uninspired, poorly booked, the wrong man went over, and there was nothing at all special or Wrestlemania worthy about the match. Unacceptable for a Wrestlemania Main Event. If it had happened at Judgment Day, people wouldn't have cared as much.



No honorable mentions this week, because let's face it, the rest of the matches pretty much all suck.

X
Undertaker vs. Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Wrestlemania VIII, 2-0



While I certainly view The Streak as something important to wrestling and worth highlighting, the truth of the matter is that Undertaker has only had eight good matches at Wrestlemania, and most of them have been fairly recent. Of course, when you have to face duds like King Kong Bundy, Psycho Sid, and The Giant Gonzales, that's understandable. So basically, I had to pick the best of the other nine and put them here in the first two slots. This was Undertaker's first real challenge and Jake Roberts' last hurrah as a major star. The match wasn't particular amazing, as the Phenom's offense was anything but phenomenal at this point in time. The most significant parts of the match is Taker doing the Zombie Sit-Up after a DDT, and hitting a Tombstone on the floor, a spot which I'm surprised he hasn't used much since then (this year would be a great year to bust it out).

Perhaps more importantly, this was Undertaker's first major match as a babyface after over a year of playing the unfeeling, unstoppable monster heel. Taker was over with the audience from day one, but this was the point where they really embraced him. He went from being a scary guy with a cool gimmick to arguably the top draw in the company within a few years time. Almost since this point, the big selling points for fans has been the champion and Undertaker. You can trace that all back here to this very important match.

IX
Undertaker vs. Kane
Wrestlemania XX, 12-0



If there was ever more of a foregone conclusion than Undertaker beating Kane at Wrestlemania XX, I've yet to see it. Oh, and this match is pretty freaking bad, outside of Kane countering Old School with a Chokeslam in a cool spot. Really, the whole thing didn't even need to be an official match, as Undertaker could have just returned and beat Kane down, hit the Tombstone and left and the crowd would have gone nuts for it. And that's kind of why the quality of the match and obviousness of the result don't really matter all that much. It's Undertaker coming back as the Deadman, with the smoke, the music, the druids, the trenchcoat, Paul Bearer, the whole nine, in Madison Square Garden, hitting all his big spots and getting his revenge on Kane at the twentieth Wrestlemania. Things truly all began again here for Taker and the match makes the list for pure sentimental value.

In case you've ever wondered what goes through my head in a typical day, I compared this match and the Undertaker's entrance to Darth Vader's first breath in Revenge of the Sith to my friend Kenneth Uphoff. Sure, pretty much everything surrounding it sucks, but it's the freaking Undertaker/Darth Vader. This then lead to a question of who would win in a fight between the two, and we decided that Vader, being a lovesick podracer at heart, would flee in terror and ask Shawn Michaels if he was an angel. This led to a bizarre conversation in my head between Vader and Kane at a "Burn Victims Anonymous" meeting, that went something like this:

Kane: So, why are you here?
Darth: My best friend cut off three of my limbs and left me to burn alive on a gigantic volcanic planet. Then I became an asthmatic who wears a bucket on my head who can't use the Force as well as I could.
Kane: That's rough man.
Darth: So, what about you?
Kane: My brother set my house on fire, burning my parents alive and I spent the next twenty years of my life wearing a mask because a fat mortician told me I had burned my face to a crisp. But I also took time to kill a cheerleader in my wild college party days because I couldn't drive stick shift. Then I boned her.
Darth: Hah, I boned Natalie Portman.
Kane: You got me beat then.
Darth: I miss Padme.
Kane: I miss Katie Vick.
Darth: You're the only one.

VIII
Undertaker vs. Ric Flair
Wrestlemania X-8, 10-0



All due respect to the rest of the match, and I will give it, but my favorite part of that match happens at about 1:40 in that video when Taker rams Flair into the apron and the lead pipe ROLLS across almost to the other side of the ring and Taker and Flair just STOP what they are doing and watch it roll away. Priceless stuff that always leaves me in stitches. The whole match is great sports entertainment, with the Demon of Death Valley and the Dirtiest Player in the Game wildly brawling with each other. There were a ton of mark-out moments in this match, from Ric Flair bleeding like a stuck pig, to Taker doing the Zombie Sit-Up out of the Figure-Four, to Arn Anderson showing up to drill Undertaker with his signature spinebuster, and finally Undertaker hitting the Tombstone Piledriver to put Flair down, the whole match was just good old fashioned entertainment and one of the highlights of a rather boring Wrestlemania.

The match bears significance in that Flair cited the match as one that helped him regain his confidence in the ring, which would lead to him producing more classics with Triple H, Randy Orton, Edge and Shawn Michaels in later years. Undertaker got his tenth Wrestlemania victory, and it was after this match that the winning streak became THE STREAK. One of Taker's best efforts on the big stage and proof that Taker should get to pick his 'Mania opponent every year. Hogan vs. Rock gets most of the Dream Match Hype on this show, and deservedly so, but this was also a great battle of legends.

VII
Undertaker vs. Diesel
Wrestlemania XII, 5-0



I think the coolest part of this match was that it was the first, and to my knowledge only, major one on one match between Nash and Taker. Thanks to Taker being out with an injury for most of 1994 and then both guys playing on the face side of things in 1995, this fairly obvious money match was saved and when it happened, it was a big deal. Diesel had held the WWF Championship for a year, and Undertaker was, well, The Undertaker. Diesel showed no fear, and was actually very confidant going into the match. Both men were so powerful and so dominant that the audience would have bought either man winning, and were it not for Nash heading to WCW, I believe he would have beaten Undertaker to get a major push into his program with Shawn Michaels. We can speculate, but my point is that this match was a fairly big deal.

This match always seems to be polarizing amongst fans. Some people love it, some people hate it, and I guess it comes down to personal taste, and some folks just don't like power matches. I happen to like almost any style of wrestling as long as it's done well, and I think this is one of the better power matches in 'Mania history, with tons of effort from Taker and creative spots thrown in, character psychology and booking that makes it clear Diesel could have beaten Undertaker if he took the match more seriously. I also think it works well going on just before Bret-Michaels, where you were going to see everything BUT power offense, and helps makes Mania XII one of the better editions of the yearly extravaganza.

VI
Undertaker vs. Randy Orton
Wrestlemania 21, 13-0





Up until this point, Undertaker's matches at Wrestlemania had simply been grudge matches against guys he had personal issues with. However, now that Undertaker was back under the legendary Deadman persona and had a stellar 12-0 win loss record, simply facing Undertaker and getting a chance to end the streak became something important. Two matches have epitomized this search for the Unholy Grail of the WWE, a win over the Phenom at Wrestlemania, but this one is the one most purely built on someone facing Undertaker, not for a personal grudge and not to defend a title, but to end The Streak. Naturally, it was The Legend Killer Randy Orton, who seven months prior had defeated Chris Benoit to become the youngest World Champion in WWE history. After a failed babyface turn, Orton was back to his brash, arrogant and glory hungry persona that fans loved to hate.

The match was part of a stacked Wrestlemania 21, and was a very good match for both men, Orton's best in-ring performance at The Big Dance and one of 'Taker's best. This was one of those rare matches in The Streak where there was about a 50-50 chance that Undertaker could actually lose. Orton was pretty much handpicked to be the future of the company, and made his name off of beating legends, and he was white-hot at this point. A victory over Undertaker would have put him over the top. There was even a bit of karma with this being 'Taker's unlucky thirteenth 'Mania match. When Orton countered the Chokeslam into the RKO, people believed that Undertaker had fallen, but it was not to be. In the end, Orton's arrogance got the best of him, and he attempted the Tombstone Piledriver only for Taker to reverse it and go 13-0.

V
Undertaker vs. Triple H
Wrestlemania X-SEVEN, 9-0



I love the premise for this match. Triple H beats Stone Cold Steve Austin at No Way Out, and then says he's defeated all of our heroes and pretty much declares himself the greatest thing ever. Then Undertaker comes out and points out that he hadn't beaten Undertaker. Voila, huge Wrestlemania match made. These guys had a great brawl that the crowd was very into. 'Taker has gone on record saying that this match was special to him because he hadn't exactly "felt it" in the ring in a while, and this match brought those feelings back. They pretty much followed the Ric Flair-Sting formula where the unstoppable babyface beats the crap out of the conniving heel for the whole match, but the heel is tough and resourceful and manages to get ahead of him at times. There was also the benefit of doubt, as many believed that Undertaker's career would be winding down, while Triple H was the top heel in the company. Taker also brought back the Tombstone after not using it since returning, and got a big pop out of it before finishing the match with The Last Ride.

One of the more intriguing things about this match is how opposite things were back then. Triple H was a great wrestler, an internet darling who was having great matches with everyone, wrestling all different styles and rarely having a predictable match. People were calling him the next Ric Flair and he was the 2000 Wrestler of the Year. Undertaker was considered past his prime, no longer relevant, and lacking in passion. In 2010, 'Taker can always be counted on for a good match against a variety of opponents and is generally considered one of the all-time greats, and Triple H is considered a guy who never goes out of his comfort zone and is generally despised. My what a difference a decade makes.

IV
Undertaker vs. Edge
Wrestlemania XXIV, World Heavyweight Championship, 16-0



I have a love-hate relationship with this match. Edge's choices in moves, like the neckbreaker on the ropes that looks awful and his grapevine that attacks the legs when he was focusing on Taker's back just irked me. Also, some spots like Undertaker's knee in the corner that sends him flying to the floor for no real reason, and the dive that was pretty much cliched at this point, also bothered me. Oh, and the commentary from Michael Cole and Jonathan Coachman makes me want to learn Spanish. Overall, I was underwhelmed with most of the early going of the match. Also, as awesome as Edge is, there really wasn't any doubt going into the match who was going to win, unlike Batista, Orton or even Taker's most recent mania outing. However, they did a great job of making you forget about that down the awesome finishing stretch.

Amazingly, the main event of Wrestlemania XXIV featured actual WRESTLING psychology; the story of the match was based on counters. Edge had perhaps the most unusual reaction to facing Undertaker of anyone; unlike Kane or Mark Henry, who showed no fear, Edge clearly was intimidated by the Undertaker. Unlike Orton and Diesel, who were confidant to the point of arrogance, Edge showed great respect for 'Taker's toughness and power; he was going to out-think and out-wrestle the Deadman. It was a bizarre mixture of desperation and determination, as Edge busted out all the stops, but still believed he could win. He was rarely frustrated. When Undertaker tried his signature offense like the Chokeslam, Last Ride and Tombstone, Edge had well-thought out counters for them. Remarkably, he also had the toughness to take those moves and survive, although the Tombstone was through rather exceptional circumstances. He also used a camera, which told the story of the match and was a call back to when Edge cost Taker a shot at the World Title months prior, and had his cronies Ryder and Hawkins come in, but that was only after his great counter game. In the end, the match ended, ironically enough, with a counter from the Undertaker as he took Edge's Spear and turned it into the Gogoplata for what was definitely an unexpected but very satisfying ending.

III
Undertaker vs. Kane
Wrestlemania XIV, 7-0



If there was ever a match in The Streak when Undertaker should have lost, it was this one. Kane was a monster heel and the whole match was about how he was just as powerful as The Undertaker and maybe more. Kane dominated the match and unlike other matches where an opponent like Bret Hart would spend twenty minutes working on his leg and it would barely phase him, Taker was exhausted by the end of this match. Kane also had the psychological edge as the brother who Undertaker had burned as a child, now getting his revenge. Even with Undertaker's grandiose entrance, Kane was in 'Taker's head, more than anyone. Not even Mankind and his mind games had the mental and emotional effect on The Phenom that Kane had. Even with all of the supernatural fluff, this was basic wrestling storytelling. The unstoppable monster runs into an even greater monster, someone from his past. After years of terrorizing and dominating the competition, he is afraid and he is dominated.

The match doesn't have a lot of crazy, insane, complicated moves. The offense is simple, but it's the context they are used in that make them special. Undertaker left the no-selling zombie in the locker room this night, as he sells every blow, every move and every hold that Kane does; the look of exhaustion is entirely convincing, but it's even more amazing because of 'Taker's character. Kane has turned the monster into a man. And a desperate man; Taker spends considerable time covering his face up to protect himself from Kane's punches, something that he had never done before and has rarely done since. He leaps on top of Kane's shoulders and unleashes a flurry of punches and dives out onto him to get an advantage, and both times the risks don't pay off, as Kane drops him to the mat with an electric chair drop and Taker crashes and burns on the announce table. Kane did not win, but the reason was logical; he was more concerned about hurting his opponent than beating him, as shown when he hits a chokeslam, and instead of covering him tries to choke the life out of him with a sleeper hold. In the end, it takes THREE Tombstones from the Deadman to win, and Taker even forgoes his usual cover for a traditional cover on the last one, and still barely gets the three. I still say that Kane should have won, but this was certainly the best possible way of that not happening. GREAT storytelling in this one.

II
Undertaker vs. Batista
Wrestlemania 23, World Heavyweight Championship, 15-0



Generally speaking, I'm not a Batista fan. I do think he's an underrated power wrestler, when he wants to be. I just think he's lazy. However, after this, you can never say I've never given him his due. This is one of my favorite Wrestlemania matches, easily my favorite Batista match and one of my favorite Undertaker matches as well. Both men busted their rear ends to steal the show at Wrestlemania 23, and I think they did. I know I'd rather watch this than Shawn Michaels vs. John Cena from the same show any day. Unlike a lot of people, I did not have low expectations; I had a feeling this would be special and it was. I was mega-hyped for it and the match delivered. I watched it at a party and with the exception of one guy, everybody was cheering the Undertaker, so I was literally hanging on every move. I've never enjoyed watching a wrestling match more than watching this one on Pay-Per-View.

Part of me wondered if I had rose-colored glasses and if the atmosphere at my house was what I truly enjoyed. However, the match holds up well on DVD and proved worthy of my admiration. At around fourteen minutes, the match flies by. More importantly, there is a big fight atmosphere and they gave us a fight. There was no posturing, no feeling out process, no rest holds. Batista speared Undertaker and took the fight to him the whole time. From his flying shoulder tackle off of the top to his belly-to-belly suplex to his falling powerslam through the table, Batista was going all out to win this. And Undertaker responded in kind, hitting all of his best moves and even busting out the no-hands plancha in a beautiful dive. When Batista hit the Batista Bomb, I was convinced the streak was over, and when Undertaker hit the Tombstone, I half expected him to kick-out. That's the sign of a match built up right and executed correctly. This was exactly what it should have been, and I have no problem putting this at the #2 spot.

I
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels
Wrestlemania XXV, 17-0



"You must accept suffering and redeem yourself by it; that is what you must do." - Fyodor Dostoevsky, Crime & Punishment

Let me preface this by saying that this is not the greatest match ever, and if I wanted to, I could nitpick and talk about all of the problems that riddle this match. But this is not the place and I don't want to do it. Instead, I will simply say that this is one of the best matches in Wrestlemania history, and Undertaker's best Wrestlemania match by a long shot. Undertaker certainly gave a great performance in this match, he was on point with the counters to the Tombstone and gave the prettiest Last Ride and Chokeslam I've ever seen him deliver. He showed more emotion in this than he usually does, which showed just how much Michaels had gotten into his head. He also deserves a TON of credit for performing at the level he did after nearly killing himself with the missed dive.

However, the match is really about Shawn Michaels, both in the in-ring work and the story as a whole. Shawn had just had a roller-coaster year in 2008 where nothing seemed to go right for him. First, Ric Flair asked him to be his Wrestlemania opponent in a match where Shawn winning meant the end of Flair's career (I know, just go with me for now) and then he had to pull the trigger because that's what Ric wanted. Then he spent two months having to deal with a vengeful Batista, who punished him for doing the right thing. Then he had to deal with Chris Jericho, who injured his eye, punched his wife, beat him to a pulp, nearly cost him his sanity and his soul, and still came out of it a World Champion. Then it was revealed that he was bankrupt and he became JBL's employee. Shawn was a broken man heading into 2009, and even called a match with John Cena on RAW "his Wrestlemania". Keep in mind, that's coming from MR. Wrestlemania.

Then, Undertaker comes in and says "Sometimes it's Hell trying to get to Heaven." It was like a lightening bolt struck Shawn and he remembered who he was. He defied JBL and won back his freedom. But he still needed redemption, and there was only one way to do it. World Titles wouldn't suffice. Stealing the show wouldn't cut it. He had to do something that had never been done; beat The Undertaker at Wrestlemania. He went off the deep in with his mind games, showing no fear in face to face confrontations, superkicking him at every turn, and even bringing in his religious beliefs. So the stage was set for an epic battle, and they delivered. Undertaker won and went 17-0 after an awesome thirty-minute battle that proved worthy of the hype.

*****


I'm short on time, so let me say that next week is The Top Ten Greatest Wrestlemania Moments.


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Great list and a pretty decent ordering, although I'd have moved the Flair match up the list a bit, but that's just nitpicking.

I do have to comment on the Batista/Edge situation. I never understood how people though Batista had a chance to win and then dismissed Edge. To me, since this was the first Mania where they promoted Title vs. Streak (they didn't hype it for Sid) and Batista really didn't have the mark of "the future" I never thought he stood a chance. Edge on the other hand did seem to be the kind of wrestler they'd give the big win too, plus Taker had won the title just the year prior. Smart money both years was obviously on Taker, I just feel most folks thoughts on who had a better chance at winning were a bit skewed.

Unfortunately the streak ends this year.


Posted By: Master of the Posse (Guest)  on February 28, 2010 at 11:32 PM

 
 
My rankings:

10. Kane I
9. Big Show & A-Train
8. Jake Roberts
7. Diesel
6. Randy Orton
5. Batista
4. Triple H
3. Edge
2. Ric Flair
1. Shawn Michaels


Posted By: DocSarpolis (Guest)  on February 28, 2010 at 11:33 PM

 
 
Did I like this column? Oh Shell Yeah.

Posted By: Shark Boy (Guest)  on February 28, 2010 at 11:34 PM

 
 
I remember watching the Taker-Orton match and when Randy hit the RKO near the end, my entire house filled with people just exploded!

Taker kicked out, and we all just screamed "Yeah!!!!!!"


Posted By: WOW (Guest)  on February 28, 2010 at 11:39 PM

 
 
UnderTaker Will Never Lose At A Mania. Next Please.

Posted By: Fact (Guest)  on February 28, 2010 at 11:40 PM

 
 
Most important match and victory was over Jake. First big victory and probably was his most significant victory until Triple H. The Kane victory is greatly diminished by the rematch and the rest of Kane's career.

Looking back at the Streak the list of names is not overly impressive. It is not like he beat Stone Cold, Rock, Bret Hart etc and if it is broken, at least do it to alter the gimmick or turn him heel etc.


Posted By: ROH Commish (Guest)  on February 28, 2010 at 11:48 PM

 
 
Good list! Hard to argue except I think you ranked Kane WM14 a little too high. When I watched it live back then, we were mostly bored until about half way in. I agree that he has had only about 8 good Wrestlemania matches (and hopefully 9 come WM XXVI)

Here is my rankings:

I have watched all of Taker's streak matches live except the one against Snuka, so my ranks are based on just the level of excitement amongst those watching it live.

10. The Big Show & A-Train
9. Kane (WMXX)
8. Kane (WMXIV)
7. Diesel
6. Ric Flair
5. Randy Orton
4. Edge
3. Triple H
2. Batista
1. Shawn Michaels


Posted By: RJ45 (Guest)  on February 28, 2010 at 11:51 PM

 
 
Yeah and most of his matches SUCK! He is either in the ring with someone who WORKS HARD(Michaels, HHH, Orton, Edge) or he is in the ring with guys who range from Mediocre(A-Train and Big Show) to Horrible(Kane and Gonzales) and it show that he CAN'T CARRY A MATCH! HBK carried their match last year and its RIDICULOUS how much credit everyone gives Taker for "Being along for the ride." Truthfully? Michaels could have had that same quality of a match with a Paraplegic! Everyone needs to realize that if it wasnt for guys like HBK, HHH, Orton, Flair, and Edge all of Taker's Mania matches would BLOW!

Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:02 AM

 
 
I must be in the minority but his match with HBK was a bit boring. Everyone with half a brain knew Taker was going to win. At least with Edge, Orton, and Batista they had a chance at winning. I think this match gets so much praise because the rest of show was god awful.

I put Batista vs Undertaker as number 1.

Undertaker vs HBK II will not be as good because Edge vs Jericho will be better. I think it will be as good as Cena vs Batista unless they decide to throw Sheamus into that match. I hope this years match does not go longer than they want so Edge vs Jericho end the show with Edge as the champ. I dont see Batista dropping the title to Cena yet.


Posted By: Morgan Fisher (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:16 AM

 
 
I thought his match with Edge and HHH woulda replaced 2 and 3

Posted By: Guest#0226 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:18 AM

 
 
10. Ric Flair
9. Jake Roberts
8. Kane (Wrestlemania 20)
7. Edge
6. Diesel
5. HHH
4. Kane (Wrestlemania 14)
3. Batista
2. Randy Orton
1. Shawn Michaels

Obviously HBK's #1 spot is untouchable, but Orton's match is as close as any of them are gonna get. Taker's streak was never in more jeopardy, and up until this year's build vs. HBK for their rematch, it's never made more sense for someone to end the streak. That match had EVERYTHING going for it, and even though Orton didn't win (I remember reading that he refused the win, legit, because he didn't want to be the guy to end the streak) it was still a hell of a match, and really seemed to be the start of Undertaker's resurgence in the ring for all of his big matches.

Everything else is on personal taste alone, since I didn't think anyone else would beat him.


Posted By: All Around Wrestling Fan (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:19 AM

 
 
What about UT v. Giant Gonzales? :)

Actually, although the WM 8 match overall was pretty mediocre, the second DDT Jake put on UT was simply quite sick, and that alone is enough to propel it ahead of the UT/Kane II encounter. All the other rankings I'd probably agree with, although UT/Diesel could have been ranked one or two spots higher.


Posted By: Michael L (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:30 AM

 
 
5. Randy Orton
4. Triple H
3. Batista
2. Edge
1. Shawn Michaels


Posted By: Guest#5127 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:37 AM

 
 
I would've put the Snuka match on there simply because he crushed an original WWE phenom.

Posted By: Spinebuster's Rule (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:51 AM

 
 
Top 10 Wrestlemania moments? Hogan slamming Andre has to be #1

Posted By: Puff (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:58 AM

 
 
Taker's match with Ric Flair was great, I just wish the feud wasn't so one-sided.

Posted By: A King (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 01:03 AM

 
 
Geez, why bother reading the comments when you know there will be too cool for the room fuckfaces who will talk about how "overrated Taker-HBK was?"

It's like wondering if there's going to be an annoying meme on 411, right VINTAGE - Paul Roma - RVD - Tiffany New York Pollard - Do Your Fucking Job - Undertaker's Dong?


Posted By: Brad B (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 01:17 AM

 
 
For the first time in this column's history, I agree with the entire list. When I saw Batista at 2, I started to facepalm, but after rewatching it on YouTube, I'm in total agreement. I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that Batista looked like WM21 Batista again, where he actually looked invested in his match and was working hard to get things to go his way. Hmm... Face Batista is awesome going into 21, looks incredible fighting Taker at 23, has a HORRIFIC MATCH with Umaga at 24, and is now looking awesome as a douche heel going against John Cena. So basically if McMahon wants to keep making money off of him, he has to keep him in the main event, other wise Batista won't care and will suck ass.

Posted By: Cactus (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 01:25 AM

 
 
Top 10 Wrestlemania moments? Hogan slamming Andre has to be #1

Posted By: Puff (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 12:58 AM


Exactly no other moment defines Wrestlemania then this moment,if this isn't number one next week then Aaron Jew Boy You have issues. If you can defy logic and come up then a better Wrestemania moment with reasonable hearing then I look forward to reading it.


Posted By: ChrisA (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 01:47 AM

 
 
Undertaker vs. Giant Gonzalez is still the greatest match in WrestleMania history.

Posted By: Paul London (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 01:47 AM

 
 
Kane never had sex with Katie Vick after she died. That was just HHH using it to make fun of her.

Posted By: Michael (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 02:07 AM

 
 
@ JWestmoreland: Then explain his matches with Nash and DAVE~!

Taker isn't quite on the level of awesome that peak Flair and HBK were/are where they can have a classic with any old stiff, but he can certainly hold his own so long as his opponent is at least competent.


Posted By: BringTheNoise (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 02:11 AM

 
 
HHH was an internet darling in 2000? I must've had a different internet back then. I remember it almost imploding after he was murdered at SS2000 and showed up on RAW the next night with just a band aid on his head.

Posted By: robm (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 02:15 AM

 
 
Part of me is impressed with the streak, and part of me just thinks it's kind of an accident and series of coincidences that led to them discovering plutonium by accident.

His first half dozen or so wins were in either his early days or giant/freak slaying days where WM was the stage to have him overcome the odds or shocase his stuff. And most of his first few main events were at another point in the year. It's also worth noting that he barely lost much at all in his no selling zombie days. Hell, I remember when Foley was like the 3rd or 4th person to beat him on TV, and that was like 6 years into his run! Couple that with the fact that he missed a few WMs in his run as well.

I don't think it was until the Triple H match that the fed started to take notice. Let's face it, they were never ones to keep stats. But at this point 1) the net was coming on and those geeks DID keep stats for stuff like this, and 2) It was probably his first WM match where they could have booked it either way, as it was farily obvious he was going over in all previous encounters. So at this point, the streak was officially born, and the game was on. And let's face it, this couldn't have come at a better time, because creatively, they started a slump they are still mired in today. And "the streak" is one way to give the fans a reason to care about a match.

But knowing this company, they will probably piss it all away by having someone like HBK or HHH end it because they are selfish. Or turn it into some stupid angle where an evil GM/commish/owner will retroactively reverse the decision in every WM match making his streak 0 and whatever. Oh crap, I shouldn't be giving them any ideas in case someone from the WWE reads this for ideas. :)


Posted By: Michael (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 02:22 AM

 
 
That Batista/Undertaker match has always been overrated, just because of how much of a stinker Batista had been on since returning at GAB 2006 to Wrestlemania. He was having terrible matches, then has one decent match which is heralded as a classic.

I like Batista and all, but they had MUCH better matches in their feud. Their match also didn't even touch the Shawn Michaels/John Cena match later in the night which was, IMO, one of the best closing matches in Wrestlemania history (behind only WM XVII, XIX, XX, XXIV).

Your list is a bit messed up. The first Kane match is an average match at best, and while I can see the historical significance, I just couldn't put it ahead of Edge, HHH, Orton or even Flair in terms of quality.


Posted By: Guest#8831 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 02:29 AM

 
 
Also, as for top ten WM moments, I do wonder if you'll have the balls to put Eddie and Benoit in. If that horrible weekend in 2007 hadn't happened, it would have been a shoo-in obviously.

Posted By: Guest#1827 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 02:31 AM

 
 
5. Mark Henry Casket Match
4. King Kong Bundy
3. Big Bossman Hell in a Cell
2. Giant Gonzales

And, next year at Wrestlemania 27, he'll have the honor of doing the job to.....

1. Me, in an I Quit Match


Posted By: Paul Roma (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 02:57 AM

 
 
1. HBK
2. Orton
3. Triple H
4. Kane at 14
5. Batista


Posted By: Guest#7448 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 04:41 AM

 
 
I gotta say, that's the first time I've ever seen a Dostoevsky quote used in the context of a wrestling match.

A good list. I would've put Batista at 4, Edge at 3 and Kane at 2, personally, but they're in the ballpark at least.

"Edge had perhaps the most unusual reaction to facing Undertaker of anyone; unlike Kane or Mark Henry, who showed no fear, Edge clearly was intimidated by the Undertaker."

I think Henry was quite intimidated by 'Taker. This was nicely illustrated when Taker took a step forward, and Henry took a step backwards. Perhaps someone like Giant Gonzalez would've been a better choice, since he didn't show any fear.


Posted By: The Tortoise King (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 05:02 AM

 
 
I watched the Shawn Michaels match while it was happening live and I was underwhelmed. I still can't understand all the fuss.

Posted By: a guy with a computer (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 05:40 AM

 
 
Geez, why bother reading the comments when you know there will be too cool for the room fuckfaces who will talk about how "overrated Taker-HBK was?"

It's like wondering if there's going to be an annoying meme on 411, right VINTAGE - Paul Roma - RVD - Tiffany New York Pollard - Do Your Fucking Job - Undertaker's Dong?

Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 01:17 AM

I am NOT a meme, whatever a meme may be!


Posted By: Paul Roma (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 06:56 AM

 
 
UnderTaker Will Never Lose At A Mania. Next Please.

Posted By: Fact (Guest) on February 28, 2010 at 11:40 PM

Sure he will. It'll just likely be his last match (if he ever fuckin' retires, already.)


Posted By: Joe (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 06:57 AM

 
 
The undetaker vs HBK match WMXXV has to be the most overrated match in pro wrestling history.I still wonder what people saw that i didnt see in this match. ve watched the match over and over again and all i see is botched moves, laying on the ground 4ver and lots of kickouts to make the match seem good. I dont get it and will never get it, that match was ok but not what most fans make it out to be. personally , the Taker vs Batista match was way better

Posted By: legend (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 07:01 AM

 
 
Agree with most of the list, but I don't think HHH-Taker can be outside the top 3, that match could have main-evented any PPV since WMX7 and still be considered one of the best.

Posted By: Bruno (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 07:57 AM

 
 
IS that really the music Taker was using at WM17? I thought he was in a Limp Bizkit phase.

Posted By: Guest#2300 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 07:58 AM

 
 
Not only was Taker/HHH rubbish, it was also completely pointless.

To this day I have no idea why people like that match


Posted By: Guest#1856 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:05 AM

 
 
randy orton was the only person i thought was going to end undertaker's streak. rest were not even close.

Posted By: Guest#1291 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:14 AM

 
 
Nice to see love for Taker/Flair - that was MOTN for me. Hogan/Rock was a huge deal, but it was sub-par in the ring.

"Edge's choices in moves, like the neckbreaker on the ropes that looks awful and his grapevine that attacks the legs when he was focusing on Taker's back just irked me."
The neckbreaker looked like it hurt, and going after the legs AND the back make it hard to be piledriven - sounds like good psychology rather than bad moves.

I'd forgotten how well booked Taker/Orton was. To thing they almost did Taker/Kane vs Heidenreich and Snitsky.


Posted By: Loki (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:15 AM

 
 
Know what'd be good for a column? Top 10 WrestleMania Matches That Weren't. You choose 10 matches that should've happened at WrestleMania but, for whatever reason, didn't.

Just off the top of my head, I can think of Mankind/'Taker, Lesnar/Benoit, and Austin/HHH.


Posted By: AndrewCrow (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:19 AM

 
 
wow, these are some pretty shitty matches.

Posted By: tully (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:27 AM

 
 
What about Bossman vs. Taker?? Best match EVER!!!

Posted By: Ray (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:45 AM

 
 
Cool, list can't see any problem with the ranking of it.

I will say that I always liked the Jake match just because to me Jake was one of the most over heels and or face character to never win a title. Putting Taker over at that point helped seal the deal as Taker being the next biggest I guess enigmatic character that could be heel or face no matter what and have the crowd respond. Plus it was almost like Jake was getting karma visited back to him for how he just out of no where DDT'd Steamboat on the floor for one of their matches. And hear is Taker dropping Jake on his head and neck almost same fashion, just to prove his character didn't care.


Posted By: Guest#9162 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:47 AM

 
 
Oddly and don't take it as a shot at you but you listed just about every bias that a regular fan has with wrestling. How the fans deal with it is what I guess gets on some other persons nerves. Hell I agree with damn near every (lack of a better word) "bias" you listed but hell its pro wrestling so some how I let it go. Problem with that is everyone is different so someone will get at you for your bias just cause "they" think you should lighten up. I say do you it keeps you writing week in and week out. Just don't become one of the fans that take it so seriously that you cause a vessel in your brain to burst because you can't figure out why a storyline went this way or that way.

I only say that because once these supposed Monday night wars start up again, I got the feeling there will be storylines like that; which will cause your next column to be top ten dumbass current storylines


Posted By: Guest#9444 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:58 AM

 
 
Geez, why bother reading the comments when you know there will be too cool for the room fuckfaces who will talk about how "overrated Taker-HBK was?"

It's like wondering if there's going to be an annoying meme on 411, right VINTAGE - Paul Roma - RVD - Tiffany New York Pollard - Do Your Fucking Job - Undertaker's Dong?

Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 01:17 AM

I have only seen the Tiffany New York Pollard in action a few times.


Posted By: That (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 09:41 AM

 
 
Yeah and most of his matches SUCK! He is either in the ring with someone who WORKS HARD(Michaels, HHH, Orton, Edge) or he is in the ring with guys who range from Mediocre(A-Train and Big Show) to Horrible(Kane and Gonzales) and it show that he CAN'T CARRY A MATCH! HBK carried their match last year and its RIDICULOUS how much credit everyone gives Taker for "Being along for the ride." Truthfully? Michaels could have had that same quality of a match with a Paraplegic! Everyone needs to realize that if it wasnt for guys like HBK, HHH, Orton, Flair, and Edge all of Taker's Mania matches would BLOW!

Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 12:02 AM


And your idiot award goes to....


Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 09:51 AM

 
 
Yeah and most of his matches SUCK! He is either in the ring with someone who WORKS HARD(Michaels, HHH, Orton, Edge) or he is in the ring with guys who range from Mediocre(A-Train and Big Show) to Horrible(Kane and Gonzales) and it show that he CAN'T CARRY A MATCH! HBK carried their match last year and its RIDICULOUS how much credit everyone gives Taker for "Being along for the ride." Truthfully? Michaels could have had that same quality of a match with a Paraplegic! Everyone needs to realize that if it wasnt for guys like HBK, HHH, Orton, Flair, and Edge all of Taker's Mania matches would BLOW!

Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 12:02 AM

you sir are a moron,if taker couldnt carry a match they wouldnt have him wrestle every year at mania,and if he couldnt carry a match they wouldnt let him work with the younger talent to get them over.


Posted By: guest (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 10:06 AM

 
 
Not only was Taker/HHH rubbish, it was also completely pointless.

To this day I have no idea why people like that match

Posted By: Guest#1856 (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 08:05 AM

because they were the two most dominant forces in wwe at the time,triple h being a mega heel and taker being a mega face,its called making money.
people like this match because it was an awesome grudge match.


Posted By: guest (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 10:08 AM

 
 
It's like wondering if there's going to be an annoying meme on 411, right VINTAGE - Paul Roma - RVD - Tiffany New York Pollard - Do Your Fucking Job - Undertaker's Dong?

Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 01:17 AM

I resemble that remark...oh wait was that an insult? You have made the Undertaker's Dong angry...VERY ANGRY


Posted By: Undertaker's Dong (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 10:36 AM

 
 
Why would someone destroy a great match like HBK VS Undertaker with the the noise pollution called Metallica?

Posted By: Guest#8362 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 10:50 AM

 
 
"my favorite part of that match happens at about 1:50 in that video when Taker rams Flair into the apron and the lead pipe ROLLS across almost to the other side of the ring and Taker and Flair just STOP what they are doing and watch it roll away. "

any exact time? i watched around the 1.50 mark and saw no such thing.


Posted By: hmm (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 11:04 AM

 
 
Great list! good order

Posted By: Fundertaker (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 11:08 AM

 
 
The undetaker vs HBK match WMXXV has to be the most overrated match in pro wrestling history.I still wonder what people saw that i didnt see in this match. ve watched the match over and over again and all i see is botched moves, laying on the ground 4ver and lots of kickouts to make the match seem good. I dont get it and will never get it, that match was ok but not what most fans make it out to be. personally , the Taker vs Batista match was way better

Posted By: legend (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 07:01 AM

This one is very easy for me to answer...your an idiot!


Posted By: The Anvil (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 11:16 AM

 
 
"IS that really the music Taker was using at WM17? I thought he was in a Limp Bizkit phase."

UT was using Limp Bizkit's "Rollin'" as his entrance theme at the time of WMX7. WWE, being the cheap bastards that they are, however, altered the DVD / On-Demand copy of this match to remove all entrance themes that they don't already own (to avoid paying Limp Bizkit the rights fees for their song). WWE has done the same thing with other wrestlers' matches, most notably Edge (who used to use Rob Zombie's "Never Gonna Stop" from 2001-03) and Ric Flair (the actual version of "Also Sprach Zarathustra" has been replaced on DVDs by their cheesy 1991 synth knock-off). It's just the way that WWE does business, like it or not. Anyway, you would think that, if WWE was going to replace "Rollin'" with one of their house-made UT themes, they would have used "You're Gonna Pay," as that fit his "American Bad Ass" persona better than the "Ministry" theme.


Posted By: rk349097 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 11:19 AM

 
 
"Remember, you're talking to a guy who almost died laughing watching the Jerry Springer segment. I'm loose enough." - Hubbard, talking about enjoying pro-wrestling...

That isn't professional wrestling, that's theatre. The entire thing was even scripted, just like theatre, and could be done by anyone.


Posted By: Battlebowl 92 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 11:23 AM

 
 
Since you mentioned Judgement Day in your opening, it should be mentioned that no event disappointment can ever stand up with every single Judgment Day since the Rock/HHH Iron Man match... what a crap ppv, right up there with WWE Great American Bash events (Dudley Boys vs Undertaker main eventing)

Posted By: Guest#9305 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 11:26 AM

 
 
Undertaker vs Jimmy Snuka at WrestleMania 7, complete with Monsoon and Heenan putting him and Paul Bearer hugely over, is what -CREATED- The Undertaker...

Posted By: Guest#4668 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 11:49 AM

 
 
Top 10 Wrestlemania moments? Hogan slamming Andre has to be #1

Posted By: Puff (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 12:58 AM


Exactly no other moment defines Wrestlemania then this moment,if this isn't number one next week then Aaron Jew Boy You have issues. If you can defy logic and come up then a better Wrestemania moment with reasonable hearing then I look forward to reading it.

Posted By: ChrisA (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 01:47 AM

It's obvious that Aaron Hubbard will name Benoit winning the title at WM20 as his top wrestlemania moment. This deluded, religious zealot virgin will find any excuse to hero-worship his idol, Chris "The Family Murderer" Benoit.


Posted By: Guest#3329 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 11:52 AM

 
 
UT/HBK was a great match, but the buildup for it was poorly booked. If there's ever a thought that someone could beat UT in WM, it's over as soon as the challenger shows "(number of UT's WM wins) - 1". It's the equivalent of a title challenger standing over the champ right before the PPV and raising the belt to the audience.

Posted By: guest (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:40 PM

 
 
Thank you to the one guy who put the HBK match at #5, where it more likely belongs. I am pretty sick of the current WWE main event style where guys spend a lot of the time trying to hit their finishers out of nowhere, and swapping finishers. This match is a shining example of that.

I might also put the SOOPERFLY~ match on here, for sentimental reasons.


Posted By: chris (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 12:50 PM

 
 
"my favorite part of that match happens at about 1:50 in that video when Taker rams Flair into the apron and the lead pipe ROLLS across almost to the other side of the ring and Taker and Flair just STOP what they are doing and watch it roll away. "

any exact time? i watched around the 1.50 mark and saw no such thing.

Posted By: hmm

*****

No, you wouldn't, because I meant to type 1:40. D'OH!


Posted By: Who Needs Personality? (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 01:08 PM

 
 
"The undetaker vs HBK match WMXXV has to be the most overrated match in pro wrestling history.I still wonder what people saw that i didnt see in this match. ve watched the match over and over again and all i see is botched moves, laying on the ground 4ver and lots of kickouts to make the match seem good. I dont get it and will never get it, that match was ok but not what most fans make it out to be. personally , the Taker vs Batista match was way better

Posted By: legend (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 07:01 AM"

Keep telling yourself that.


Posted By: Brad B (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 01:41 PM

 
 
As a self-professed Star Wars geek who, *gasp!*, LIKED the Prequels, I found the Vader/Kane conversation quite high-larious.

I remembering marking my fucking brains out when Double A ran down at X8 and SPINEBUSTERED~! the Dead Man.

I always enjoyed Taker/Diesel, too. Shows that even a Cliquester jobs to the Undertaker. And who doesn't love his, "I'm the shit, I'm tellin ya!" at the beginning.

True story about Taker and Hunter. Within three months of X-Seven Triple H was out, and when he returned he's yet to regularly have great, memorable matches with anyone not named Shawn Michaels, unlike 99-01 when he was, quite literally, The Game. And inside a year Taker turned heel, seemingly found his passion, and began rocking the house with everyone from Kurt Angle to a motivated-only-when-I-wanna-be Jeff Hardy.


Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 02:34 PM

 
 
Great column.

I loved the abriged Taker/Batista match.

Thanks again!


Posted By: Wrestling Fan (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 02:49 PM

 
 
It's obvious that Aaron Hubbard will name Benoit winning the title at WM20 as his top wrestlemania moment. This deluded, religious zealot virgin will find any excuse to hero-worship his idol, Chris "The Family Murderer" Benoit.

Posted By: Guest#3329 (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 11:52 AM

Lol - I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that. This Hubbard guy is a fucking douchebag, we're lucky Taker and Benoit never had a match at 'Mania, or he would have been putting that at No.1 this week. Hubbard is a confused little bitch who needs to get out more and get laid.


Posted By: Guest#1600 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 04:28 PM

 
 
I HATE THE STREAK!! IT'S NOT REAL!!!!!!

That being said, I will be fine with the streak once it ends. In my opinion, no young talent WWE has is worthy of ending the streak, so I say give it to HBK this year. I think it would be outstanding. HBK jobs to UT two years in a row at WM? I dont like that at all. Plus, the career stipulation is an insult to our intelligence if HBK actually loses.


Posted By: Joe Mastronardo (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 04:31 PM

 
 
need to do Top 10 WM entrances...

Posted By: Guest#8131 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 04:33 PM

 
 
The fact that I knew, and everyone else should have known, that UT would beat HBK at WM25 took away from the match for me. It was a phenomenal match...I just wish I had some doubt as to who would win, which I did not. At this point, I have some doubt as to who will win this year. That is when I truly enjoy wrestling.

Posted By: Joe Mastronardo (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 04:38 PM

 
 
Waaaaait a minute...somebody called you JEW BOY???

Aaron Hubbard and I have had our differences, and I don't know the man personally. But I can guarantee you he's more likely to fold up a yarmulke and use it as a bookmark for his family Bible than to actually wear it on his head.

Anyone miss the old days of 411, when trolls actually pissed you off instead of made you laugh at how stupid they are? Darth Mortis is digging a grave to roll over in.


Posted By: The REAL MP (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 04:40 PM

 
 
"WWE has done the same thing with other wrestlers' matches, most notably Edge (who used to use Rob Zombie's "Never Gonna Stop" from 2001-03) and Ric Flair (the actual version of "Also Sprach Zarathustra" has been replaced on DVDs by their cheesy 1991 synth knock-off). It's just the way that WWE does business, like it or not."

...as do a lot of other companies, so you can't single WWE out. There's few DVD producing companies now that cave in to music rights issues. (CBS being the worst...as they went as far as replacing BACKGROUND MUSIC on some of their releases. And let's not forget the epic WKRP fail)


Posted By: Guest#7691 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 04:50 PM

 
 
...correction on IV Undertaker vs. Edge.
It isnt a gogoplata that Taker hits, its an triangle choke...pretty weird he thought it was a more advanced submission...but yeh it wasnt. Plain old Triangle choke


Posted By: Jamie (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 04:57 PM

 
 
I'm a hall of famer....Taker needs to give me my win back next year from Survivor Series, OH YEAHHHHHHH BAAAAAAAAAABYYYY!

Posted By: Koko B Ware (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 05:19 PM

 
 
'Piqued' your interest, L. Ron, 'piqued'.

Posted By: Chungles (Registered)  on March 01, 2010 at 06:16 PM

 
 
I meant "that DON'T cave in..."

Posted By: Guest#4368 (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 06:16 PM

 
 
What about Bossman vs. Taker?? Best match EVER!!!

Posted By: Ray (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 08:45 AM

There is no arguing this fact.


Posted By: Jason (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 06:23 PM

 
 
The pipe clip is so awesomely funny. I remember a pwg first blood match where a bartender walked up and borrowed a pair of scissors that were supposed to be used to finish it, and the look on Kaz and Scorpios faces were pretty closed to that.

Posted By: Amp (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 07:47 PM

 
 
Good list. quite enjoyed reading the 10 worst 'Mania matches.

Posted By: Rekjavik (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:00 PM

 
 
Yeah and most of his matches SUCK! He is either in the ring with someone who WORKS HARD(Michaels, HHH, Orton, Edge) or he is in the ring with guys who range from Mediocre(A-Train and Big Show) to Horrible(Kane and Gonzales) and it show that he CAN'T CARRY A MATCH! HBK carried their match last year and its RIDICULOUS how much credit everyone gives Taker for "Being along for the ride." Truthfully? Michaels could have had that same quality of a match with a Paraplegic! Everyone needs to realize that if it wasnt for guys like HBK, HHH, Orton, Flair, and Edge all of Taker's Mania matches would BLOW!

Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest) on March 01, 2010 at 12:02 AM

your an idiot.


Posted By: guest (Guest)  on March 01, 2010 at 08:26 PM

 
 
Undertaker vs. King Kong Bundy, best mania match ever!!!

Posted By: please (Guest)  on March 02, 2010 at 04:45 AM

 
 
Good to see the WMXIV Kane match getting some love. I love that match, but I am biased, being a huge Kane and Taker mark.

Posted By: Keith (Guest)  on March 02, 2010 at 10:26 AM

 
 
So you had his second match with Kane on the list,but not his match with Sid? More like Pretentious Ten.

Posted By: murph (Guest)  on March 02, 2010 at 04:43 PM

 
 
So you had his second match with Kane on the list,but not his match with Sid? More like Pretentious Ten.

Posted By: murph (Guest) on March 02, 2010 at 04:43 PM

Don't mention Sid....it brings out his bad side.....the "REAL wrestlers don't exactly care about pro wrestlers" side of him. Seems mentioning Sid is like nails to a chalkboard. All be it that second match with Kane is a few steps above the SId match given Taker took enough time off to heal up before it.


Posted By: Guest#7199 (Guest)  on March 03, 2010 at 08:50 AM

 
 
wouldnt change a thing!!!!!!!!!!!!! except maybe you oversold the hhh/taker deal.. it was a bullshit slap together match that turned out rather good, but it was put together cuz niether one of them had shit to that year

Posted By: pjl (Guest)  on March 07, 2010 at 07:22 PM

 
 
My rankings:
1.) Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels, Wrestlemania 25
2.) Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels, Wrestlemania 26
3.) Undertaker vs. Batista, Wrestlemania 23
4.) Undertaker vs. Edge, Wrestlemania 24
5.) Undertaker vs. Triple H, Wrestlemania X-Seven
6.) Undertaker vs. Diesel, Wrestlemania XII
7.) Undertaker vs. Kane, Wrestlemania XIV (was a lot better in the moment--not knowing who would win/after a phenomenal 10-month build
8.) Undertaker vs. Ric Flair, Wrestlemania X-8
9.) Undertaker vs. Jake "The Snake" Roberts, Wrestlemania VIII
10.) Undertaker vs. "Superfly" Jimmy Snuka, Wrestlemania VII


Posted By: Chuck (Guest)  on March 14, 2011 at 04:59 AM

 


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