411mania.com: Wrestling - 411 Fact or Fiction 3.11.10: Impact, Sting's Heel Turn, Christian's Money in the Bank Odds, Cena vs. Batista and more!

It's time for the latest edition of 411 Wrestling Fact or Fiction, so come on down! I'm your host as always, Jeremy Thomas, and coming off the re-renewal of the Monday Night Wars we have plenty of TNA and WWE news to discuss! Our panel this week consists of our Raw and Superstars recapper Rob McNew taking on the one and only Andy Critchell! The questions are ready and the panelists are rearing to go, so let's get it on!

Questions were sent out Monday.

Participants were told to expect WWE & TNA-related questions.

1. Rob Van Dam and Jeff Hardy were both poorly utilized on in their respective debut and return on Impact.

Rob McNew: FACT. Monday's Impact was basically a two hour long face-palm, and these two were near the top of the list. Rob Van Dam being Sting's mystery opponent was a great idea (except for Taz ruining the surprise), but having him win the match in 15 seconds with a transition move only to be destroyed by the freshly heel turned Sting made less sense than most things TNA does which is really saying something. As for Hardy he makes his big triumphant return to make the save for Hogan and Abyss, but as he's headed to the top rope to hit his finisher we get a finish straight out of Nitro as they fade out before he connects. I half expected Tenay to yell that we had run out of time but could tune into Thunder to see what happened.

Andy Critchell: FACT. RVD not so much but Jeff Hardy's return was TOTALLY wasted. They didn't even show his finisher! It was less than a year ago where Hardy was one of the biggest stars in WWE. He had the belt, he was doing main events, he was selling merch like crazy. He pretty much MADE CM Punk into the uber-heel that he is today. It had appeared that Jeff had FINALLY realized his vast potential. We all know what happened next and how much it sucked. But hey, now he's with TNA and he's still super over and super charismatic. He made an appearance on January and TNA has slow played his big return until tonight. But you only knew it was coming if you read some spoilers. There are sometimes where a shocking appearance is good but people already knew Hardy was with TNA so why not pump up his big return? Of course, what they actually did makes me think that either TNA has no faith in him (which is REALLY saying something) or they don't know how to use him. Either way, an opportunity for a big moment was wasted.

Score: 1 for 1

2. Randy Orton will be able to succeed just as well as an "anti-face" as he did when he was a heel.

Rob McNew: FACT. Orton will work as a babyface provided that the WWE does not make the same mistakes that they made in 2004. He MUST keep the characteristics that made him so popular in the first place. While he has a completely different type of charisma his character is very similar to Steve Austin around the time of his face turn in 1997. Maybe a better example is Jake The Snake around 1987. If Orton starts shaking hands and smiling this will fail miserably. If he remains the viper, but only out for himself and taking out heels instead of faces he could be huge.

Andy Critchell: FACT. Orton has truly reached rarified air, he is one of the few wrestlers working today who doesn't have to change his character in order to play either heel or face. And it's not that Orton has changed, it's just that the crowd has suddenly grown to appreciate just how great he is. Now he's at the point where the fans are rabid to see him bust out the RKO in any match he's in. And if he ever does bust out the pose again, I am convinced the crowd will go MOLTEN. As long as he is allowed to continue doing what he's been doing, Orton will continue to succeed in his new role.

Score: 2 for 2

3. Sting's apparent heel turn on Monday Night will revitalize his character and work to his and TNA's benefit.

Rob McNew: FICTION. Quite the opposite. Sting has reached that "legend who you can't boo" status, and this completely nonsensical heel turn will only serve to prove that. It goes against everything Sting's character has been for 25 years, and just does not feel natural at all. This is not Hogan in 1996. While it makes sense that he would still harbor some ill will towards Hogan it makes no sense that he would align himself with Ric Flair who has turned on him roughly 713 times in his career. Just another in the line of dumb moves by TNA as they make a poor effort to go to war with WWE.

Andy Critchell: FICTION. Sting has never had success in his career as a heel. The crowd just doesn't want to root against him. Unless he can deliver some super strong heel promos, and I'm talking Jericho type levels here, then this heel turn will fizzle out just like the others in the past. As far as working to TNA's benefit, it puts the focus on yet another old man which is the last thing TNA should be doing.

Score: 3 for 3

4. Despite his legendary career, the Undertaker doesn't need another DVD set.

Rob McNew: FICTION. Couldn't disagree with this one more. Undertaker's legendary 20 year career is in need of a really thorough non-kayfabe documentary. After they complete that they can fill in the remainder of the DVD with matches similar to what they did with Shawn and Hogan's third DVD. Just fill them in with rare never before released matches. There's never enough wrestling on the DVD market.

Andy Critchell: FACT. Taker doesn't NEED another DVD set but that doesn't mean I am opposed to the idea. Taker is one of the few guys that can always move merchandise and another DVD set with just add to WWE's coffers.

Score: 3 for 4

SWITCH!

5. The new Impact opening is a significant improvement over its predecessor.

Andy Critchell: FICTION. It's new and it's flashy but it is not without its flaws; the most obvious being that it cycles through the roster just way too fast. If I'm watching TNA for the first time I would like to have an idea of what the new guys I am seeing are all about instead of everyone just standing around looking various degrees of menacing. I think that in this case less can be more but in typical TNA fashion they decided to try and squeeze as many people in as they could.

Rob McNew: FICTION. I always liked the old opening, and this one seems pretty generic. I usually wouldn't give it much thought though and in the grand scheme of things the opening song and video are the least of TNA's troubles.

Score: 4 for 5

6. With the Money in the Bank match now set, Christian is the odds-on favorite to win.

Andy Critchell: FICTION. I think there are reasons for any of the other participants to win MITB that are just as compelling as Christian's. Hardy & Shelton are in the same boat as Christian in that a win at MITB would help legitimize them above the mid-card. Ziggler, Bourne, and Swagger can use the MITB win to reinvigorate what has been a stalled push up the card. Kane could win and thus set up his yearly main-event run. I would venture to say that this year's MITB field is the widest open of them all.

Rob McNew: FACT. In fact Christian is easily the biggest favorite since this match's inception. There is absolutely no one else who I could picture holding the briefcase except maybe MVP. Although even that is a long shot. I don't mind the lineup at all, because between Bourne and Shelton we should get some memorable spots but the result will never be in doubt. The only shred of drama would be on the off chance that WWE has decided this is the year someone cashes in and loses. In which case they may go with someone else. .

Score: 4 for 6

7. If TNA wants to get the X-Division more credibility, Shannon Moore is not the right person to face Doug Williams at Destination X.

Andy Critchell: FACT. If TNA wants to get the X-Division more credibility then it should have a pretty big star holding the belt or at least trying to get the belt. Shannon Moore doesn't fit the bill as the kind of star that can bring credibility. Mostly since he has never really done anything of note his entire career aside from being a Hardy flunky. He's the Brian Knobbs to Jeff Hardy's Hulk Hogan.

Rob McNew: FACT. Seriously, who has ever at any point cared at all about Shannon Moore? I don't even think Shannon Moore cares about Shannon Moore. Why TNA insists on trotting this guy out there as if he's some big star when while in WWE he was probably somewhere between Jimmy Wang Yang and Kung Fu Naki on the importance scale is beyond me. If you really wanted to have people take the X-Division seriously then Daniels should have won the title on Impact and defended against Jeff Hardy.

Score: 5 for 7

8. The Batista/John Cena feud is succeeding far better than could have been expected.

Andy Critchell: FICTION. were people seriously expecting this to fail? On one hand you've got Cena who is the most over superstar since The Rock so you know that just about any feud he is in will draw. On the other hand you have Batista who at one point was almost at the same level as Cena in terms of popularity and who has now so fully embraced this heel turn that he looks as fearsome as he has ever looked in his career. So you have two super talented and popular main event level guys who the crowd is heavily invested in. Of course they are having a great feud! if you expected otherwise then you are a moron.

Rob McNew: FACT. I actually thought with clearly defined heel and face elements this would be far better than most anticipated, but I had no idea it would be quite this good. Dave has settled into his role of douchebag heel, and is playing it to perfection. The heel turn has revitalized his career. One thing that different about this feud, and this heel turn is that Dave is playing a different type of heel than we've seen in recent years. He is in no way scared of Cena. Quite the opposite. He's a cocky, arrogant heel who is convinced he's not only going to win, but dominate. It's a role he was born to play. Cena actually looks like the underdog (to the marks anyway) and there is actually some doubt on if this is a hill he can overcome. Just brilliant booking all around.

Final Score: 5 for 8

A second week in a row around the .500 mark, as Andy and Rob go five for eight! My only regret is that I had no good opportunity for questions about the Divas, because that would have come out with a very interesting couple of responses here. I'd like to thank both men for their answers, and you guys for clicking and seeing what they had to say! For Rob McNew and Andy Critchell, this is Jeremy Thomas saying join us next week for another edition of 411 Fact or Fiction!

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RVD may have had the worst debut for any company in the history of pro wrestling....pure burial job, and then never seen again!

Posted By: Hindu Friend (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 11:52 PM

stings heel turn didnt work the first five time, and it wont work this time.

shannon moore? i loved bischoff coming out and giving kaz's shot tonight, but hey another 'wwe reject' gets his at the ppv....only in tna...

Posted By: perez (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 11:53 PM

Cena/Batista could talk about how big their shits were over the weekend, and their match at Mania would draw huge

Posted By: Industry (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 11:54 PM

impact was just like january 4th's show.

once all the hoopla wears off, people will realize the show accomplished nothing at all and was a typical tna run of the mill fuckshow.

Posted By: gomer (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM

The fact is the Pope should be challenging for the X division belt while Hardy gets AJ at Lockdown. And if it takes Shannon Moore to get Jeff Hardy, TNA made the right decision.

I feel that there will be some screw job in the MITB match. Orton steals the case. It is not legitimate thus the PPV. Quite obvious storyline and spares the fans another legacy match that has no heat.

Posted By: ROH Commish (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:10 AM

are these guys on the WWE payroll? Andy.........of course Cena/Batista are having a great fued? If Batista hadn't recently found some charisma, the whole program would be brutal.

Posted By: seriously (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:13 AM

All TNA questions were negative with negative answers. Even the question about the theme was negative. That company can't to ANYTHING right.

It ain't lasting til 2011 that's for sure

Posted By: Guest#3101 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:34 AM

"While it makes sense that he would still harbor some ill will towards Hogan it makes no sense that he would align himself with Ric Flair
who has turned on him roughly 713 times in his career."

It is statements like these that make people wonder if you guys actually watched the show. It was pointed out about 100times that Flair and AJ looked shocked at what Sting did. He did not celebrate with them, they did not come out with him during his match. He did not join them later. Simply put STING DID NOT ALIGN HIMSELF WITH FLAIR.
or saying things like "Sting has never had success in his career as a heel. The crowd just doesn't want to root against him". again, did you watch? They were clearly booing like crazy when he was beating up RVD. They cheered Sting when he came out for the match but he was being booed heavily by the end of the segment.
Please watch the shows you do Fact or Fiction on.

Posted By: Peter (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:42 AM

Agree that Batista/Cena has been awesome so far...as much as I want to see Shawn/Taker go on last at Mania, I have a feeling that this is going to be THE main event.

It's funny that the parallels between Orton '10 and Austin '97 were brought up, because I had been thinking the same thing for quite a while now. This could get huge, if creative just let's Randy keep doing what he's doing.

I don't mind the TNA opening vid, other than the final image is of Hulk Hogan. Don't get me wrong...I am an avid watcher of TNA, I actually like alot of the workers and want to see them succeed and become a viable alternative. But the more I see, I really think that when people say, 'Vince paid Hogan to go to TNA and destroy', maybe there is some truth to that. I have a hard time following storylines and characters while watching TNA, because there's not alot of definition. People changing from heel to face all of a sudden (Beer Money), 15 second debuts (RVD), people being on tv for week and then there's no sign of or mention of them for weeks...TNA just seems really un-organized right now.

Christian must win MITB...there's no other quality choice for my money.

Thanks 411 for letting me rant a bit...

Posted By: mr_carpenter1982 (Registered) on March 11, 2010 at 12:46 AM

Even Flair, who's doing a decent job at getting heat, shouldn't be heeling it up. But Sting, who's never had a credible heel run in his career, as a heel is stupid. And RVD winning after two signatures and getting hit by a bat 30 some times? Wasn't his problem with WWE being that he wasn't "showcased" properly? What does he call that? Is this Sting turn just a way for Hogan to stay face? It seems like every time I watch Impact, I leave with more questions and less answers. Sometimes they never bother answer a question. I NEED a non-kayfabe Taker DVD. I've seen like three interviews his entire career that weren't kayfabe. Good read and right on point.

Posted By: ThePants (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:47 AM

I definitely miss the Orton pose with firework rain behind him. I hope they pull that out on Wrestlemania since he is getting more a pop than Kofi now.

Posted By: Morgan Fisher (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:48 AM

If you didn't read any of the backstage stuff and just watch tv shows for the last few months Christian would be the only one who could possibly win and make any sense. He's the only one of those guys who has even been on tv regularly in the last year, even MVP hasn't done anything since his mini-fued with Randy Orton last year.

Posted By: SolidCPlus (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:49 AM

If you're going to have Sting turn heel. Why not have him destroy someone the ppl love? I heard booing toward him. Don't think it'll last long, but its a start

Posted By: Guest#7246 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:59 AM

I wouldn't say nobody cares about Shannon Moore. I know he has fans out there, and i'm one of them. But, is he a big name to help rebuild the X-division? No. He definitely need to prove himself in the ring first.

Posted By: johnnydiamond (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:02 AM

I care about Shannon Moore, and I really like his in-ring work and personality. But go ahead and tell me that I don't matter and that your point is still valid or something like that.

Posted By: SeanAltly (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:21 AM

I am a wrestling fan. Have been since before I could even remember. I watched and still do watch it all. WWF/E, WCW, ECW, TNA, and ROH. But I will focus my rant on TNA and to a lesser extent WWE. Last Monday, I have never been so embarrassed to be a wrestling fan. RAW was again its same uninspired and boring self so that was no surprise. On the other hand, you had TNA and what truly was the most important night in the history of the company! And it was god awful. I have suffered through bad TNA before. In fact, I have ordered every PPV from TNA since October 2006 (Bound for Glory 2)- December 2009 (Final Resolution). Bound For Glory 2 is quite possibly one of my favorite PPV's of all-time and from there (not surprisingly when Russo came in), TNA went down the toilet. But I suffered through it and ordered every PPV and watched every Impact not because I truly enjoyed it, but because I wanted TNA to do well and to be honest without the bad booking, TNA could put on some great matches. But anyway I was a loyal fan through all of that bullshit that was TNA 2007-2008. Then came 2009 which was an improvement over the previous 2 years. However by late 2009, TNA hit their stride. From September 2009-December 2009, I loved TNA. I felt like things were on the right track. A.J was the world beater champion and face of the company who was putting on classic MOTYC's, Christopher Daniels was a main eventer, Kurt Angle and Desmond Wolfe were putting on classics, Pope was becoming a star, the tag division was built nicely around the British Invasion, and Amazing Red was leading the X-Division nicely. Then, Hogan and Bischoff show up on live TNA television and from there, we all know very well what has happened.

So here and now I am admitting that I am a fucking moron for ever supporting TNA and believing that TNA could ever fulfill its potential. And I'd also like to take the time to say FUCK YOU TNA for treating any and all wrestling fans in the way that you have treated us. I will not watch another episode of Impact or order any PPV's from here on out.

I now rarely watch WWE and haven't since after Wrestlemania 24 because I can't take the repetition. I do however order every Wrestlemania and will be tuning into see Steve Austin.

As for anybody else as frusterated with wrestling and embarrassed as I am to be a fan, I strongly encourage you to watch ROH. I have rarely if ever been disappointed by them. If you have a spare $15, order their Internet PPV, The BIG BANG on April 3rd. You won't be disappointed unlike what the other companies have offered us the past few years.

So to sum up, WWE needs to step up their game all the time, not just at Wrestlemania. ROH is what wrestling should be. And most of all... FUCK YOU TNA!!!!

Posted By: Greatest Man That Ever Lived (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:29 AM

Sting as a Heel is like Rey as a heel. RVD used as a bat target, nah Jeff Hardy used right? Swanto-- oh end of the show. Heck no he wasnt used right!

Posted By: Guest#7366 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:29 AM

Moore's Prince of Punk skits on ECW are legendary. Worlds worst gimmick ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egm5qOxo1vE

Posted By: Morgan Fisher (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:39 AM

I disagree with the argument that Sting is too legendary to boo. People said the same thing about Flair and he's getting boos. On the other hand tho, I don't trust the TNA cast members. It's probably like WCW where they are told to cheer and boo.

Posted By: Max Maverick (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:48 AM

Question 9: TNA... (said in a positive tone)?

Smarks: Fiction.

Question 10: TNA... (said in a negative tone)?

Smarks: FACT! FACT! FACT!

Pathetic.

Posted By: Chungles (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:59 AM

Am i wrong, or isnt there only one undertaker dvd set? that came out five years ago, right? He doesnt deserve more then one? Really?....Really?

Posted By: Guest#9028 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:23 AM

Question 9: TNA... (said in a positive tone)?

Smarks: Fiction.

Question 10: TNA... (said in a negative tone)?

Smarks: FACT! FACT! FACT!

Pathetic.

Posted By: Chungles (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:59 AM

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

Posted By: Please don't reply (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:45 AM

Sting was getting heavily booed from the moment he turned on Hulk & Abyss. The problem is how the fans are portrayed on TV.

I've been to just about every TNA taping here in Orlando in the last year, and the one thing I really wish they would stop doing is muting out the crowd on TV. I've watched tapings I've attended and what seemed like a rowdy crowd in person comes across as tame and silent on TV.

Who cares if the marks in the front row are going to cheer for or against whoever they feel like? I'd rather have the Impact Zone sounding like a madhouse than an old folks home. It's usually so loud in that place that backstage vignettes and in-ring interviews can't be heard, but watching it on TV sure looks different.

Oh well, the nWo was sent to TNA to kill it anyway. I'm just counting down.

Posted By: Street Teamer (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:37 AM

If I ran Spike TV (god forbid), I would mute you guys too! Worst fans in the history of pro wrestling.

Continue going to TNA by paying the large sum of zero dollars and zero cents to come up with all your great chants and 'mosh pits' that look embarrassing on TV. Cast member.

Posted By: Do you wear a suit? (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:47 AM

Best ForF ever. Agree with you guys almost spot on word for word on all the topics.....

Posted By: Barney (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:48 AM

RVD may have had the worst debut for any company in the history of pro wrestling....pure burial job, and then never seen again!

Posted By: Hindu Friend (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 11:52 PM

Until he gets his revenge next week. It's called patience.

Posted By: Guest#2357 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:49 AM

Can we have Csonka, or someone who reviews TNA objectively, while dialing down their exaggerations?

"Rob McNew: FACT. Monday's Impact was basically a two hour long face-palm.."

Yes, I was pulling my hair out when the X Division title was on the line. We can't have this sort of wrestling on free TV.

Posted By: Hoodoo91 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:49 AM

Why would you bother asking a question about the divas? This is the only one I could think of:

Are the WWE divas really as fucking awful as most people think?

FACT!!!!

Posted By: Guest#4017 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:50 AM

Jesus, WWE marks are stupid.

Posted By: Guest#0998 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:55 AM

Prince of punk was in TNA years ago and Vince brought him out of TNA! People TNA has come a long way in a short time. Give them credit they already are on Monday Nights and beat out superstars and ecw!NXT is next on the hit list.. I bet if they caught up to Smackdown you WWE fans would still not man up! just sayin

Posted By: 3rd Degree (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 03:27 AM

MONEY IN THE BANK- Christian has to win! With Edge winning the World Title, the summer main event program is set, even if Christian loses. Besides, the briefcase serves as Christian's severance for the defunct ECW title.

Posted By: Guest#3064 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 03:40 AM

Without even looking at the comments, I'm guessing there will be a few pissed off TNA fans...

Posted By: Ryushinku (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 03:49 AM

[i]I am suprised that no one has brought up the idea that Christian wins MITB and then when Edge wins that night, he comes in and cashes in on Edge. Christian ends Mania as champ which would be amazing in my opinion.[/i]

Actually it's been considered over on the forums. I think the better way to do it would be to have Edge and Christian bump into each other earlier in the evening and have them go off for a private chat. Then later on Jericho retains against Edge only for his Little Bro to cash in the MITB there and then.

Posted By: RockerDropper (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 04:56 AM

Ugh, I'm already sick of hearing about the fucking Swanton that was missed by TV. Is it REALLY that big a deal? Did Jeff Hardy not hit a Twist of Fate before the fade out? You guys are WAY too butt-hurt over something most people watching probably didn't notice or give a shit about.

And can we wait a week or two to see how the Sting/RVD thing plays out before we completely bury that segment? Why on earth would RVD have come back for the main event? Sting kicked the shit out of him. He was in no (kayfabe) condition to return.

The anti-TNA bias from this entire site (minus Larry) annoys me to no end. Impact could be two nonstop hours of a Daniels, AJ, Joe, and RVD match, and you'd still bitch like little girls. It's really, really getting old.

/rant

Posted By: Steve307 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 05:53 AM

6 seconds into the new TNA intro, I think this is the greatest opening ever. OMFG!

Posted By: Helms (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 06:43 AM

Totally agree on Orton

People need to remember when they were kids, how much they liked Luke Skywalker, Superman, Batman and all those heroes (Cena like) but at some point something happend, you started liking Vader, The Joker alot more.

Thats why the anti hero persona has so much potential, as the WWE crowd slowly goes up in age, those Cena kids will become Orton fanboys if they arent allready.

Nobody likes a goody good dorky character, which Orton was in 2004, similar to Angle, however the Angle stuff was on purpose, him drinking milk etc was suppose to be heelish.

-Every Character- will fail if they run around, smile and act cooky and are suppose to be a face, thats why it failed before.

Posted By: Nightz (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 06:47 AM

Nobody should win the MITB match other then Christian, hes clearly the best performer & most over in the match & deserves a shot at one of the big titles.

Posted By: jbardo (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:21 AM

I was at Impact and Jeff did not even hit the Swanton so yeah

Posted By: JP (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:27 AM

It is obvious TNA has a lot of problems that TNA nuthugger are too damn blind to see.

WWE phoned it in with Raw for good reason. Because they are just waiting for TNA to be the threat that they claim to be. Why should WWE play their hand right now?

TNA's problems: What are they going to do against the WWE after all of the "surprises" have been used up?

Why do they always wait until the last minute to hype their PPVs? This is the third time they are waiting until the last minute to hype their PPV.

And by looking at the Destination X card, they are treating it like a throwaway show. People will say that the reason for that is because this PPV is competing against what is and always will be the biggest event of the year in Wrestlemania. TNA didn't bother to load it up to compete with Wrestlemania. I mean Shannon Moore fighting for the X Division title on PPV? That shows that for all of the shit they talk, TNA is still intimidated by the WWE. They should have loaded Destination X better than that to show WWE they mean business.

This is why TNA will never put the WWE out of business.

Posted By: Guest#9017 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:31 AM

What I don't get is I thought the complaint was every WWE castoff was given the belt or treated better then current TNA talent.

So instead of TNA bringing in RVD and using his status to propel him the title day one. They use him to further a story line and bury him (well after a win.)

And I don't get the complaint. It helped sell Sting as a heel. Gives Sting an over face to feud with. And anyways if RVD was shown more on tv the complaint would have been that the wwe castoff was overshadowing established talent.

Can't have it both ways.

Posted By: Doughboy (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:31 AM

" Rob Van Dam
being Sting's mystery opponent was a great idea (except for Taz ruining the surprise), but having him win the match in 15 seconds with a transition move only to be destroyed by the freshly heel turned Sting made less sense than most things TNA does"

Are there really that many clueless sheep among the IWC? I've been hearing this comment since Monday night and am surprised nobody understands what they did with RVD and why his debut made PLENTY of sense.

His return alone provided plenty of shock value for fans of both brands who have been waiting for RVD to return to wrestling. Sting disrespected Dixie backstage so Dixie set up a match versus a mystery opponent. She tried to one up Sting by having it be RVD and him coming through the crowd to catch Sting off guard. It worked and he got a quick victory. The crowd went nuts but was quickly silenced when Sting gave RVD an epic beat down.

So, RVD got his return, shocking the fans and getting people talking amongst their social circles all week long while Sting was able to fully transition into a heel as nobody was actually buying the turn until he destroyed everyones poster boy in RVD.

Makes plenty of sense to those of us with half a brain.

Posted By: DaTruth (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:38 AM

I would love to see Christian win the MITB, and cash it in on Edge later in the night against Edge. Or if Jericho gets by Edge, cash it on him.

Posted By: T-Mac (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:39 AM

I have an eerie feeling they are setting up Drew McIntire to win MITB.

Posted By: Dragon (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:52 AM

You can't compare Sting with Flair, Flair has always been successfull mainly in his heel persona, arrogant and able to win matches via heel tactics, Sting is the opposite, he's always been the good guy wearing black. Btw one of the great things about Sting is the fact he's the fact that almost all the time he's dead serious when he talks and he's such a phenomenal talker when he has to deliver a tense promo, so it's up to him, if he's fine in being a heel he can cut great heel promos and draw some serious heat. People say Jericho is maybe the best in the biz with the mic but I disagree, Y2J is fantastic but he doesn't get to the level of intensity of guys like Shawn Michaels or Sting, a true dream feud for me would be Sting-HBK, that could make for some of the best wrestling tv we've ever seen, especially with superior writing. I would love to see Jericho losing a bit of his humour-kinda parody that is always attached to his caracter, but unfortunately that's become part of him or the way the WWE sees his role, I think one day we'll see Jericho in that kind of character I have in mind for him, even as face, probably when HBK's career will be over (for real). I agree that Morrison is more similar to RVS than HBK, especially in the way both are way better as spot guys than in role of storytellers that can sell a match in all ways (even cutting promos) or just with facial acting.

Posted By: Max (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:56 AM

Christian = biggest favourite ever? I agree he's favourite, but he's not on the same level of expectancy as Van Dam was in 2006, or Jeff Hardy was in 2008 before his suspension. The big surprise is that Kofi's currently not involved, but since McIntyre is going to qualify for it on Smackdown and make it a nine-man match, it wouldn't surprise me if Kofi finds his way into it as well. In which case, it really is too close to call because they're dying to push Kofi.

Posted By: Cun\' (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:01 AM

I'm buying the Sting heel turn.

Look at it this way. He sees Hogan, the man who helped to destroy WCW, the company Sting helped make, come in to TNA, and he sees the same old thing: happening: Hogan's bringing in his friends, etc.

Sting allied with Flair because, while Flair has turned on him before, he still respects Flair as both the other face of WCW, and opponent, and a man.

Granted, fans will still cheer for Sting because he's Sting... but him turning on the "fan favorite" wrestlers works.

Posted By: Rant Casey (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:13 AM

hey....here's an idea...don't read spoilers jackass

Posted By: Greg (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:14 AM

Kane will win MITB at Mania. He will then become the first MITB winner to fail at cashing it in, causing him to snap and brutally attack Cena or Edge... Relaunching the monster heel Kane for the 342nd time

Posted By: Michael Hayes (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:18 AM

Cena most over superstar since Rock? LOL!!.. apparently someone hasnt been to the live events where almost half the corwd boos him...he is over with Children and teenage girls...smart marks cant stand this guys character

Posted By: Die Cena Die (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:33 AM

I agree with chuckles, almost every Fact or Fiction is a burial of TNA and a BJ to WWE.

Posted By: AFan (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:35 AM

According to the SD spoilers, McIntire wins a ninth spot in MiTB. One guy who's getting a big push with eight lifetime mid-carders. I wonder who will win it now?

Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:38 AM

Christian should win the MITB match, and should use the briefcase after the Edge/Jericho match. These are two guys he's had great matches with, in the past. This feud, plus one against CM Punk on Smackdown will reignite "The Instant Classic" persona & reputation Christian had years back.

Posted By: Damian (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:53 AM

wow you guys are great, pretty awesome , whatever wwe does is great, whatever TNA does is shit, I will make sure I never ever touch your dirty column again, 2 plain stupid, jobless dub bastards who think its cool to bash TNA, well FYI Stings heel turn worked this time, because he was clearly booed you dumb idiots, both you part time job seekers,get lost

Posted By: AHM (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:56 AM

Posted By: Greatest Man That Ever Lived (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:29 AM

Dude, couldn't agree more with your post. Since Hogan et al I've switched to ROH, Fuck TNA - and I've already started giving ROH my money, and I feel happy about it. It's a nice feeling not caring about TNA anymore.

Posted By: Guest#5460 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 09:22 AM

TNA has a good number of young talent, but what do we get on their "big show"? Old guys (Hogan, Flair) stumbling around, old guys (Nash, Hall) staring at each other, old guy (Sting) burying an almost-old guy (RVD) into one-shot-deal oblivion. If they were smart, which they are not, the TV time for these old guys would be limited to, say 20 minutes a week at most. Let MCMG, AJ, Daniels, Joe, etc go out and put on a GOOD show instead of letting the fossils put on a hokey, sad show.

Posted By: MPMoore (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 09:42 AM

Considering both Batista and Cena are incredibly limited all-rounders it's nothing short of a miracle that their programme so far hasn't been completely unwatchable but the second they have to step in the ring it will immediately go from mediocre to one of the worst feuds of the year.

Posted By: Guest#2678 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 09:50 AM

my god people don't want tna to succeed. Shut up you wwe universe a** lickers...watch your wrestlemania where we all know what is going to happen and leave tna alone. at least they are trying something unlike mcmahon who is stucking with the same old sh*t for the last 20 years...you guys just don't have any vision of wrestling's need of evolution. wow batista and cena are so cool...these guys can't wrestle wake up! I'm tired of their dumbass storylines. rvd is simply the best...like he said at the first one night stand...he doesn't need any storyline to showcase his talent...be patient with him and he will deliver I'm sure of it. 3d vs nasty world at lockdown wow simply great lol. by the way vince still sucks!!!

Posted By: dalpe (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 09:56 AM

"Sting has reached that "legend who you can't boo" status, and this completely nonsensical heel turn will only serve to prove that."

Except for the fact that he got the shit booed out of him.

Posted By: D-Steak (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 09:57 AM

1. FICTION - they were not pushed down the throats of the viewers, they were the spice added. RVD will be over, he BEAT Sting who is an Icon... he took a beatdown to advance Sting and add fuel to a feud... you guys are too picky. This works for the casual viewer - they are not catering to the IWC

2. FACT - Orton is money

3. FACT - Sting has been about respect for over a year now. This fits in perfectly. Give it time before you pass judgment.

4. FICTION - UT could have dozens of DVD's - people love him. He makes money.

5. FACT - it was much better. Just like everyone pooped on new music for Hardy and Orton etc. This will grow on you... again, GIVE IT TIME.

6. FACT - Christian has proved he would be a company man by staying in ECW and doing a good job. He gets the case and a push in the E, finally.

7. FICTION - I think Shannon Moore is under rated and fits the mold of what the X-Division should be. Talented smaller guys who don't need to talk much and let their actions in the ring speak for them. He has suffered from bad gimmicks, 3 Count was ok, but not great. His WWE stuff, same.. GIVE IT TIME.

8. FACT - it's the only thing besides UT/HBK that makes Mania something I want to see.

Posted By: Guest#1460 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 10:06 AM

RVD and Jeff Hardy's debuts were both handled poorly by TNA. These guys are both major stars and have been multi time World Champions. Why not just air video packages out the wazoo to hype their debuts? I guess the 47 Hogan backstage segments per show don't allow the time.

Posted By: Jake Fury (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 10:21 AM

Re:Greatest Man that Ever Lived

Also been watching supporting since the Weekly PPV days (however I admit to bootlegging the ones i knew were going to be ass) and you took the words out of my mouth, 2009 was looking great and then... this...

Posted By: PUNK (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 10:40 AM

There is absolutely no one else who I could picture holding the briefcase except maybe MVP.
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Umm hello, Kane. I mean the guy is one of the major stars and his career will probably come to an end in a year or 2. On top of that he's never had a real run with a world title. (No having it for a day doesn't count and the ECW title doesn't count either.) I'd expect they'd give the veteran a decent championship as a big slap on the back before he does retire.

Posted By: Dave (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 11:14 AM

You guys jumped the gun on the MITB question. A new entrant will be added on Friday...

Posted By: drn (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Hogan being the first and last thing you see in the TNA opening... *facepalm.jpg*

However I will say Daffneys scream in the middle of the opening is awesome

Posted By: Guest#0562 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 11:24 AM

You just know that if, for question one, the exact same thing happened on RAW, you guys would be raving about it.

Posted By: Vince McMoron (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM

Christian will not win MITB. Look at the talent involved. Of everyone in the match, he and Kane are the only two who don't need it to be perceived as World Title threats within the year. But imagine if Dolph or Swagger pulled that case down. That would only launch a huge push and create a new star, much like they have (thus far successfully) done with Sheamus.

Posted By: Guest#4627 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM

When in the world did Randy Orton become an Internet darling?

To me, his "viper" character was created to mask the fact that he is a slow, plodding and simply boring wrestler AND character. Brilliant marketing by whomever created the character, but not a testament to any ability Randy has. They simply covered up pure crap with something to hide it's flaws. They've done it to so many guys with looks but little talent before, like The Rock, Ultimate Warrior and John Cena and their legacies turned out fine so it's not unprecedented. I just think it's so strange that people on here mark out for Orton so much. He's one of the absolute worst in-ring performers of the past decade. Hell, I think Great Khali has more moves than Randy.

And while I know in-ring performance isn't everything, I just don't see Randy having enough ability promo-wise or character-wise to make up for it. And plus he's a legit douchebag. Remember when he put feces in a diva's bag? Hell, a couple years ago he was close to getting canned because of all of his backstage issues. At least Cena can cut a promo, and he's a genuinely decent guy, AND he's improved in the ring. I'll still fast forward through his matches...especially against Batista, but at least I'll feel bad about it whereas if I fast forward an Orton match, I'm doing myself a favor because when you've seen one, you've seen them all.

So seriously folks, I'd just love to know WHY you all love Orton so much. And I don't think he's the biggest overrated waste of a WWE superstar in recent memory. That prize went to Mr. Kennedy.

Oh, and a quick note about the fact/fiction regarding RVD and Hardy's debuts...the fact is they were both botched beyond belief. These are two of the most popular wrestlers of the last decade and with RVD, they may very well have killed his momentum entirely. Another commenter said to be patient because he'll get his revenge next week, and that's true. But did they have to bury him so hard first? That makes no sense.

Posted By: Scott (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 11:59 AM

i always found Batista to be boring and overrated. so yes, i'm surprised the fued looks as good as it does...even if he still is overrated.

Posted By: Huh? (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM

It's almost like Vince McMahon is booking TNA. Booking it to fail, that is.

What a waste of Hardy and RVD. RVD especially. And the Sting turn makes little sense. At least do a build to the turn, like have Sting hide in the rafters for a few weeks and maybe make a few run-ins on to save Hogan/whoever. Then turn on him when it matters.

It really does look like WCW in the pre-nWo days when everything sucked. I'm surprised that Sting doesn't come out with Robocop, go play beach volleyball with the British Bulldog then crash through a wall with the Shockmaster.

Posted By: Chico Whoretiz (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM

The WWE needs to put on Michaels/Taker last at WM. They should have learned last year that you cannot follow this match.

Posted By: SeatsPro (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:34 PM

2. Randy Orton will be able to succeed just as well as an "anti-face" as he did when he was a heel.

Fact, simply because there are dumbasses in this world that actually think he has talent and a right to exist.

Posted By: Comment Board Poster (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Jesus, WWE marks are stupid.

Posted By: Guest#0998 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:55 AM

Who the heck let you comment here? I am neither I am a wrestling and entertainment mark so act normal and stop complaining!

Posted By: Guest#5277 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Sting's heel turn will not be successful because people don't want to see his jurassic ass wrestle anymore,not because they don't want to boo him.

Posted By: NWO Sting (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM

"Jesus, WWE marks are stupid"

And TNA marks are ignorant, arrogant and annoying assholes.

Posted By: Guest#2072 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM

I am suprised that no one has brought up the idea that Christian wins MITB and then when Edge wins that night, he comes in and cashes in on Edge. Christian ends Mania as champ which would be amazing in my opinion.

Posted By: Guest#7461 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 12:28 AM

I like Christian but this scenario would be very disappointing and anti-climactic. He really isn't World Championship material at this point. Drew McIntyre is winning MITB and won't cash in that night but later in the year.

Posted By: Tbone3771 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:02 PM

Posted By: Guest#5460 (Guest)

"Dude, couldn't agree more with your post. Since Hogan et al I've switched to ROH, Fuck TNA - and I've already started giving ROH my money, and I feel happy about it. It's a nice feeling not caring about TNA anymore."

ROH sucks. And this is from a ROH fan. It's like watching paint dry.

Rob McNew, TNA had the better how Monday. Heel Sting. If you are not intelligent enough to understand how they turned him heel, then that isn't TNA's problem. Fans were booing him becuase how took out RVD. It worked. Your opinions don't.

And yeah this was two WWE marks crapping on TNA. I guess having the better show pissed them off.

Posted By: Nas (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:13 PM

Sting was getting heavily booed from the moment he turned on Hulk & Abyss. The problem is how the fans are portrayed on TV.

I've been to just about every TNA taping here in Orlando in the last year, and the one thing I really wish they would stop doing is muting out the crowd on TV. I've watched tapings I've attended and what seemed like a rowdy crowd in person comes across as tame and silent on TV.

Who cares if the marks in the front row are going to cheer for or against whoever they feel like? I'd rather have the Impact Zone sounding like a madhouse than an old folks home. It's usually so loud in that place that backstage vignettes and in-ring interviews can't be heard, but watching it on TV sure looks different.

Oh well, the nWo was sent to TNA to kill it anyway. I'm just counting down.

Posted By: Street Teamer (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:37 AM

If I ran Spike TV (god forbid), I would mute you guys too! Worst fans in the history of pro wrestling.

Continue going to TNA by paying the large sum of zero dollars and zero cents to come up with all your great chants and 'mosh pits' that look embarrassing on TV. Cast member.

Posted By: Do you wear a suit? (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:47 AM

Guess you haven't heard of CZW then

Posted By: oh really now? (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:37 PM

@Greatest Man That Ever Lived

I had a very identicle rant on the last Thursday edition of Impact. even the part about loving TNA from Sept-December of last year.

Posted By: Guest#0682 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:46 PM

I'm going to have to disagree on RVD and Jeff Hardy return.

RVD's return to wrestling got a huge pop from the crowd. They went nuts almost as nuts as when Jeff Hardy came out in the main event. AND it got the crowd to boo Sting. Remember when MEM storyline started? TNA pretty much kept Sting face because the crowd couldn't boo him. This wasn't the case here.

And while I think TNA should have hype Hardy's TNA return, it was still a big surprise and the crowd went NUTS (as already mentioned).

Posted By: Guest#4098 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:51 PM

"All TNA questions were negative with negative answers. Even the question about the theme was negative."

Exactly, quit bitching about them all of the time. I agree at times it's deserved but I thought they did a pretty good show this week & hopefully it's their last "reset" for awhile. I was much more enjoyable that all of the in ring interviews, backstage skits, and completely predictable bullshit Raw gave this week.

Oh, and what's next weeks big draw? A contract signing? Come on.

At least iMpact is trying some stuff out, granted they got a little carried away with all of the beat downs Monday. Attacks on Hogan, Abyss, RVD, and Wolfe's attack on the Pope, Daphney's run in, etc, etc. I'm sure there were more

Posted By: Byzdalmyt (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:53 PM

1. Rob Van Dam and Jeff Hardy were both poorly utilized on in their respective debut and return on Impact. (Negative question)

Rob McNew: FACT.
Andy Critchell: FACT.

3. Sting's apparent heel turn on Monday Night will revitalize his character and work to his and TNA's benefit. (Positive question)

Rob McNew: FICTION.
Andy Critchell: FICTION.

5. The new Impact opening is a significant improvement over its predecessor. (Positive question)

Andy Critchell: FICTION.
Rob McNew: FICTION

7. If TNA wants to get the X-Division more credibility, Shannon Moore is not the right person to face Doug Williams at Destination X. (Negative question)

Andy Critchell: FACT
Rob McNew: FACT.

I agree with Chungles

Posted By: Fuck 411 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:53 PM

"Cena/Batista could talk about how big their shits were over the weekend, and their match at Mania would draw huge

Posted By: Industry (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 11:54 PM"

I would pay to see that.

Posted By: Guest#7731 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 01:57 PM

It's irritating that Orton has had to spend so much time with those losers Dibiase and Rhodes (imagine saying that 25 years ago, ha). It's a testament to Orton that he's been able to stay so strong with those two succubi near him. I hate to see guys get buried, but I would love nothing more than to see Orton stick them both in the ground for good. Buried Alive Match at WM!

Posted By: Pat M (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:09 PM

I liked the RVD and Sting interaction and I think it could make a great feud if they wish to do so. My problem was that Hulk Hogan got involved. Yeah I understand he wants revenge on him for attacking him and Abyss earlier, but I thought if it was just between Sting and RVD, then things would be more interesting and considered less of a burial for RVD. Something more like let Sting/RVD get a couple of minutes to fight each other (instead of the 5 second victory), RVD is just beating Sting and then finally Sting hits RVD with the bat for the DQ. After that, let Sting go wild on RVD and have security and others come down to try to stop Sting but have him beat them down. Build a monster heel and not bury RVD. As a first-time TNA watcher, from the bad they do have at least they seem more focused on wrestling than WWE Raw is (note I didn't say Smackdown or NXT.) Whenever I flipped to Raw, I'd see those lame Criss Angel segments, especially that brutal Santino one....

Posted By: Guest#4203 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 02:51 PM

TNA has to stop trying to do so much fucking shit at once. I think that's the biggest problem. All the elements of what went on between RVD and Sting would be fine in and of themselves. But they ran through a month's worth of feud in five minutes. Debut RVD, then have him catch a win on Sting, then have the beatdown, then move forward to the next PPV with a pissed off RVD looking for revenge.

Posted By: Hawkeye (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 03:07 PM

First you get WWE fanboys to do this, then you have them talk about how great Orton is?!

Orton is without a doubt the worst wrestler in any promotion in the world today. Hornswaggle has a better move set and is better on the mic than that black hole of charisma and talent.

I hope god has mercy on the sheep that pretend to enjoy Orton. Especially their inane cheering when he does something lame then reacts like he just pooped in his pants...

Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 10:26 AM

What a hater orton has one of the best movesets on raw now he turnin face he;ll do dem alot faster then wen he was hell orton has been my fav wrestler since he was in evolution john cena is the one who sucks does 4 moves then the attitude ajustment or stf and he is the biggest suck up to fans i ever seen in my life nobody likes that shit he gets on the mic like he reading a 5 paragraph essay why we should cheer him he such a douche

Posted By: twitter/robjhump (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 04:54 PM

RVD may have had the worst debut for any company in the history of pro wrestling....pure burial job, and then never seen again!

Posted By: Hindu Friend (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 11:52 PM

yeah you gotta wonder how he felt when they told him " you will beat sting in 20 sec but he gets to hit you with a bat for like 10 minutes. ..... thanks for signing with us

Posted By: CJ (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 04:58 PM

About the new TNH, I mean, TNA Promo: it says EVERYTHING about the state of TNA. How many times does Hogan appear? How many times do the other wrestlers appear? Count and you'll know.

Posted By: mr_wonderful (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 05:01 PM

Welcome to 411! Everything TNA does is retarded and everything WWE does is great/you're an idiot if you don't think everything WWE is great.

I love this one line though: "And it's not that Orton has changed, it's just that the crowd has suddenly grown to appreciate just how great he is. "

I can't wait for his next turn so we can watch you blame Creative when he fails again.

Posted By: Guest#2508 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 05:13 PM

So just as I'm cleaning up the load I blew when RVD appeared on my screen I have to get my head around a Sting heel turn three seconds later. Great booking numbnuts. Does Batista go dancing at The Blue Oyster on his nights off? The muscle-queen look really suits him, maybe he wants to dominate Cena's ass in the showers after the show...

Posted By: analysis stupido (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 05:23 PM

I'm not sure why they have R-Truth/Morrison vs Big Show/Miz. R-truth and Morrison added to MITB would make it far more interesting. Put Kane/MVP with Show/Miz in the tag titles (and it wouldn't be difficult to book too because the previous hate between Miz and MVP) and have R-truth/Morrison in the MITB would make the ladder match far more interesting because the legit briefcase holders go from one (Christian) to 3. As it stands right now, MITB is looking underwhelming lineup wise.

Posted By: Bleh (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 05:58 PM

this critchell character is such a joke. he managed to call orton "great" and batista "super talented" in one text. what is he on? orton is only great to move with the speed of yokozuna and throw punches, kicks and garvin stomps for 15 minutes. and batista is super talented only to get injured, botch moves, and bore the shit out of anyone who is not a hopeless wwe mark.

Posted By: Guest#9872 (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:33 PM

Have to disagree-if you are going to have anyone in TNA beat down RVD-it needs to be a strong heel, Sting fits that role. TNA has issues but to make a strong heel turn-what do you do? Make Sting a badass, RVD got the win and Sting beat him-simple as that. Everyone is focusing too much on this-look at that Bon Jovi wannabee in WWE-Edge, WWE trying to make him look like Goldberg and it has failed-Jericho complains about RVD? That guy has been buried year after year and made to look like the weakest champ in years. Meanwhile 411 here is humping the BeJesus out of the WWE with their God-awful shows-ShoMiz, Morrison-Truth, same main event week after week, same mix of matches and terrible guest hosts. RAW is not wrestling plain and simple. TNA has many issues but it is a better show and 411 apparently wants the monopoly continue and the terrible crap they have put on since March 26 2001-Get a clue, I could do your job and do it a Hell of a lot better

Posted By: guest (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 07:34 PM

WWE storytellin sucks
Vince cannot afford to lose HBK
HBK ends Takers streak
After Mania Vince winds up losing Taker because of outcome

Posted By: Its me BMT (Guest) on March 11, 2010 at 08:12 PM

How many times does hOgan have to appear in that opening video?

Posted By: nanoman (Guest) on March 12, 2010 at 12:07 AM

"3. Sting's apparent heel turn on Monday Night will revitalize his character and work to his and TNA's benefit."

Sorry Andy and Rob I must disagree.

Fact: While everyone had seen Sting as a face for the longest time, Sting has never been able to properly transition a heel role. He has always been "babyface-heel". Never in the way it was booked but just the way the fans saw it. Monday for the first time I actually heard a very strong boo towards Sting. He took out the man who is supposevley revitalizing TNA. The top gun, and while it may appear that he is aligning himself with Flair that was never set in stone, there was no handshake just Sting coming out and dropping Hogan and Abyss with a bat. So with that said I personally think that Sting, if given the proper role, will make a fantastic heel. If he shows he doesn't care about the fans and what they want then they will boo him. Nuff said in my opinion.

Posted By: Lucid (Guest) on March 12, 2010 at 12:27 AM

"I would venture to say that this year's MITB field is the widest open of them all."Are you kidding me Andy Critchell?If this was the Summer of last year, I would of said "Yeah Dolph Ziggler has a chance."But they depushed him in favor of Drew McIntyre.Same thing goes for Jack Swagger and MVP who early last year and in 2007 they were pushing respectively.Fucking Kane, Shelton, and Matt all unfortunately will never be anything more than what they are now.Mid carders forever doomed to be mid carders.Bourne could win and get the Rey Mysterio treatment but I doubt it.So that leaves Christian who's coming off the longest title reign of '09 and Drew who they went through so much to get into the Money in the Bank and who looks like he will do whatever he has to to win it.Even if he has to beat the winner for it ala Edge beating Kennedy for it in 2007.Hell each and every Money in the Bank before this had a much open field then this one.This is the smallest open field EVER.Don't believe me look at each and every Money in the Bank lineup and look at what each guys who were in those was doing at the time.MITB 1:Benoit, Christian, Edge, Benjamin, Kane, Jericho
2: Lashley, RVD, Finlay, Flair, Hardy, Benjamin
3:Both Hardys, Edge, Orton, Finlay, Booker, Punk, Kennedy
4: Jericho, Punk, Kennedy, Benjamin, Carlito, MVP, Morrison
5: Christian, Kane, Henry, Punk, Benjamin, Finlay, Kofi, MVP

Posted By: Ted (Guest) on March 12, 2010 at 12:29 AM

I'm a TNA fan but what's with all the hate on Orton.I hear the same thing all the time."Oh his run in 2004 sucked."What is everyone talking about.It was because of that run he became my favorite wrestler at the time.I mean I was a groupie for him.Doing his pose and singing his theme song everyday in school (And I was a freshman in high school so imagine how that must of looked.Yeah that was really going to get me alot of girls:)He was the first and only person who theme song I ever got downloaded and put on a CD for me.And the RKO was an orgasm for me.I've grown out of him since but being once a RKO groupie it pains me to see people call him one of the worst wrestlers in the World and to see people say his run in 2004 fail.Maybe to internet fans but then again EVERYTHING fails to internet fans so...And by the way he doesn't suck.His recent gimick held him back.It was to more about the character and not the wrestler.Go watch his match with Christian from Raw in 2005.Great match between 2 great wrestlers.He reminded me of AJ Styles at the time of the run.Face, great wrestler, young, but you knew he could run with the big names.

Posted By: Ted (Guest) on March 12, 2010 at 01:49 AM

i like all of them. but tna is my fave. cops don't like me and i don't like cops.

Posted By: RavishingBillyRude (Guest) on March 12, 2010 at 05:22 AM

This is the stupidity of the IWC: The MITB ladder match. If somebody like say Dolph, Bourne or Swagger (who people would have whined and cried if they got left off the card) won (which would be a surprise), People will bitch about "not being believable because they were on losing streaks", if Christian wins, people will bitch about WWE "being predictable".

Either way, people are going to whine and cry like little fucking crybaby bitches.

And what I love about these TNA fanboys, they will blast anybody for bashing "god's gift to wrestling" that is TNA and yet turns around and does the exact same damn thing to the WWE making TNA fanboys not only ignorant, arrogant and annoying, but also fucking hypocrites.

Bottomline: Fuck the whiny bastards in the IWC.

Posted By: Guest#4735 (Guest) on March 12, 2010 at 05:56 AM

Everyone keeps jumpin on the boos that Sting supposedly got. If you looked at that audience the boos didn't seem that damn genuine more so in that the "cast" was doing what was told. Hell some of the people further back in the crowd can still be seen cheering. In essence more of this Sting trying to be a heel has to play out. A beat down of RVD just doesn't cut it and I want RVD to succeed but as we saw the beat down Sting gave him was more so a way to instigate Hogan than to give RVD someone to fued with. RVD is going to have to make it a fight between he and Sting and while it might seem easy to do, as of this episode that aired, RVD is nothing more than second fiddle to Hogan and Sting. TNA will have to let RVD get back on Sting preferably without Hogan's help.

I think thats the problem TNA will face......Hogan seems to want to have his hand or name mentioned in all the top and or main event angles...hell he is mentioned in The Band vs Nash/Young, Flair/Styles vs Abyss, now Sting vs Hogan(w/ RVD interaction), He initially buried Jarrett and turned that over to Eric B., seems none of their main event is going to go without him touching it and that is getting frustrating......because we see that every week on the other show that being WWE. At some point in WWE some how we always see one person/tag or group be the main focus...that got boring we get the fact TNA might jam pack the show with quick storylines as times but it was still variety. And now they are essentially copying WWE and thats not needed.

Hogan isn't TNA and he is starting to make it seem that way.

Posted By: Guest#3082 (Guest) on March 12, 2010 at 08:50 AM

"When in the world did Randy Orton become an Internet darling?"

About 5 seconds after IWC writers realised he couldn't get shitcanned or depushed no matter what he does. Guaranteed Main Eventer = Guaranteed Fans.

Posted By: Guest#9831 (Guest) on March 12, 2010 at 03:41 PM

McIntyre wins MITB. I thot it would be Christian until McIntyre joined at the thrid time of asking.

Posted By: Heel (Guest) on March 13, 2010 at 09:20 AM

Maybe the reason there's so much anti-TNA sentiment on here is because their current programming absolutely BLOWS. The March 8th main event was the single worst wrestling match I have ever seen, and that's up against some pretty stiff competition as you can imagine. Why did Flair feel the need to blade himself 45 seconds into the match...probably because WWE has put a stop to it, so both Flair and Hogan now spend the whole of each show covered in blood to give the fans 'something different'...total garbage. AJ was completely embarrased in this match and since when did he ever need the two grandad's to get over? RVD - BURIAL...Styles - BURIAL...Jeff Hardy (cut off just before he's about to deliver the pop-spot of the night) - BURIAL.

Ah well, at least Shannon Moore's back eh?

Posted By: dremples (Guest) on March 14, 2010 at 10:27 AM

sting isnt quite a the legends you cant boo" yet, altho he's close. that spot is filled by hogan, flair, taker, rock and austin. the real question is< does it fuckin matter? cux this is the hogan show and guys will be changing from heel to face all the time with noexplanation, other than hogan thinks its 1985 and every match has to be heel vs face. anybody want to come over and watch my old nitro tapes....

Posted By: pjl32 (Guest) on March 16, 2010 at 10:58 PM

Sting makes a poor heel. His whole backstory and career have always centred around him as "the icon" the guy always on the side of right... Everytime some nutcase writter thinks this idea will work it backfires... there is no momentum in Sting as a heel.

Posted By: Chris (Guest) on March 26, 2010 at 12:38 AM