411 Fact or Fiction 7.29.10: Sheamus vs. Miz, Khali in Nexus, TNA Extreme Stable Name, More!
Posted by Jeremy Thomas on 07.29.2010
Do Miz and Sheamus have all the tools to make for a great feud? Is the WWE casting call for new Divas another example of how little the company thinks of the division? Will AJ Styles elevate the Global Title? 411's Ari Berenstein and Erik Luers debate these topics and more in this week's 411 Wrestling Fact or Fiction!
Welcome once again to 411 Wrestling Fact or Fiction! It's the fourth week of July, and we've got Nexus developments, teased feuds, a new TNA stable name, Hardcore Justice news and more to discuss! Joining us on the panel this week is Ari Berenstein, the man behind our "Column of Honor" here in the Wrestling Zone. He's taking the Movie Zone's own Erik Luers! There's a lot to get into here, so let's get right down to it!
Questions were sent out Monday.
Participants were told to expect WWE & TNA-related questions.
1. If allowed, the Miz and Sheamus have all the tools to make for a great feud.
Ari Berenstein:FACT. WWE has gone full bore in pushing both Miz and Sheamus in the last few months and I believe they are proving that to be the right decision. Neither are the greatest of all-time inside the ring, but they are more than capable of holding their own in their performance. What has and will continue to make their burgeoning grudge shine is that both are great talkers. The Miz is cocky and proud of it, but can back it up. Sheamus is intimidating and actually makes you hang on to every word he says. Already, both have shown a lot of good dramatic tension in the brief verbal exchanges between them.Throw in the "x-factor" of Miz holding the Money in the Bank briefcase and being able to cash it in at any time and you have plenty of material to cover a feud, or at least continued hostilities between these two over the next few months. Both are heels, but I think they can make it work without either one having to turn face.
Erik Luers:FICTION. Well, they have the tools, but not the right predicament. Both are heels. Miz is much more charismatic than Sheamus, thus making the Irish-bred wrestler look bad in the process. I guess you could say that the feud might work because Miz talks alot and Sheamus just uses his strength to beat people up, but it may lack audience interest. The WWE would also have to be committed to staying with the feud over the course of two months so that people could get invested in it, and these days, any heel-heel feuds are usually nothing more than little side projects, never the main attraction. The last time we got a heel vs heel world title match on PPV was at the Royal Rumble (Sheamus VS Orton), a fine match but one that will most definitely be improved upon (thanks to face-heel dynamics) at Summerslam. So there's that. Maybe Miz and Sheamus would be a good tag team, although I'm as sick of superstar-teaming-up-with-superstar tag teams as much as the next mark. I dunno. I'm just throwing stuff out there. Oh, and can the next WWE Film star Sheamus and Liam Neeson as crime fighters against the IRA? That would be amazing. Anyway, the Miz-Sheamus potential feud could work, but now now. And it's a shame (a shame).......
Score: 0 for 1
2. AJ Styles will elevate the Global Title by virtue of his title reign.
Ari Berenstein:FACT. Simply because after Rob Terry's title run and the way the Global Title has been treated there is nowhere to go but up. Terry and the Global Title had disappeared from television in the past few months, so something needed to be done if anything was to be done with that belt. (SPOILERS AHEAD BEWARE) In fact, TNA has already made a positive change in terms of AJ Styles changing the name of the belt to a TV Title. The name "Global Title" was such a misnomer and an ill fit within the TNA product that just re-purposing the belt could resuscitate its value. AJ Styles has always been a "go-to" guy when TNA needs to get something over, so my guess is that he can and will do what is necessary to elevate its stock, defending the title every week on television and proving himself to be a champion. Now I have no faith in TNA whatsoever that they can maintain good booking around the title (SPOILER X2--it may be Angle vs. Styles next, which means Styles will have to job to move Ange's storyline forward), but I have complete faith that AJ Styles will do his very best while he can to give this new title run a chance to succeed.
Erik Luers:FICTION. Sadly, I'm not sure if the Global Title can be elevated. To be honest, I forgot it was even a title (I thought they gave a plastic belt to Rob Terry as a way of saying "no more steroids as long as you're wearing gold") until reading the above statement. I like AJ Styles alot, but he doesn't need the belt. His presence will elevate the title, but the booking of his reign will be what downgrades it. He is a former Legends champion, which is technically the same title (correct me I'm wrong, and I may be), and not many people cared then. Things will not change now unless TNA takes the gold seriously. I will say this, the company books their world champions well. AJ had a good reign as TNA champion, and RVD is doing fine work as the current title-holder. They also have something good going with the tag titles right now. Their X Division and Global title reigns are lackluster. This is the definition of using the belt as a prop. Sometimes the history of a championship can elevate whoever wins it, but the Global title doesn't even have that on its side. Let AJ hold it a for a year, defending it at every PPV and barely squeaking by victoriously. It couldn't hurt.
Score: 0 for 2
3. Putting the Great Khali within the Nexus would be a terrible booking move.
Ari Berenstein:FACT. Khali and Nexus doesn't fit together at all. Khali is a very limited wrestler and it wouldn't make sense to add him in with limited rookies in the Nexus stable. It would weigh down the group too much, even if he were booked as a total monster. That role should stay with Wade Barrett, who has done a phenomenal job as the leader of the group and its most powerful and intimidating member. My belief is that there really shouldn't be any longstanding WWE wrestler added to the Nexus group--let it be completely composed of rookies who are looking to break through and make their names. If anyone is to be added, it should come from the Season 2 NXT rookies who have been or will be eliminated.
Erik Luers:FICTION. In my opinion, the Nexus as a whole has been a terrible booking move. They are a bunch of unestablished jobbers that the WWE is hoping the WWE "universe" will take seriously. How can we? Who are they as individuals? What individual talents do they possess? NXT was a show much lower-rated than Raw, so they should re-establish who these vicious men are. And their reason for being doesn't make sense. They attack the GM and owners of the company and then get contracts? Well, that's kind of backwards, isn't it? And Wade Barrett had a guaranteed title shot and a WWE contract, and he gave it up for what? To join the NXT losers that couldn't beat him in the main competition? They even attacked Vince McMahon, so shouldn't they all be fired like Stone Cold used to be? Daniel Bryan was fired and then they never explain it! All this group needs now is Mike Enos. Remember Mike Enos? Why the fuck do you remember Mike Enos? The sad thing is that there are seven of them. Nexus members, that is, not Mike Enos. You know deep down that by next spring three or four of them will be future endeavored. And what becomes of NXT season 2 losers? Do they all plan to revolt as well? If they don't, they will look like the biggest morons on the planet. But anyway, oh yeah, the Great Khali. It would make no difference to me, as long as the NXT angle does not drag on to a 20 on 20 elimination match at the Survivor Series. And whoevever created the Nexus t-shirts should be fired on the spot. Seriously, people get paid for that?
Score: 0 for 3
4. The WWE casting call for new Divas is just another example of how little the company thinks of their women's division.
Ari Berenstein:FICTION. WWE shifted its hiring philosophy for its women's division a long time ago, so the new model / actress casting call is just continuing that process.This says nothing about a new kind of "disrespect" they are paying the division, because to them, this is the right paradigm for bringing the girls in. The halcyon days of women wanting to be wrestlers first and getting into the business or at least WWE are over. Nowadays WWE will take the swimsuit models and the like, teach them the basics and go from there. Some will learn on the job and eventually become decent and others will stink up the television with their Botchamania-ready performances. At least they'll look good while doing so.
Erik Luers:FICTION. Well, the first sign that you don't care about your women employees is by labeling them Divas. The second is that instead of hiring actual wrestlers, you hire models and hope they learn how to wrestle (Finlay can't always work miracles, ya know). Hell, twelve years ago somebody working backstage had to tell a group of ladies, "alright girls, tonight you will be playing the role of Godfather's hos. Now get aboard the hooooooooo train! Choot! Choot!" This new casting call just seems pretty standard by now. What will be really offensive is when they start going around back-alleys looking for prostitutes to hire. Then I will admit that the WWE doesn't give a shit. For now, they just can't seem to realize that sometimes valets are best left as valets. For every Trish Stratus, you get a Torrie Wilson. Personally, I wouldn't mind getting either, but you know what I mean. Where's Beth Phoenix been? Why doesn't Natalya wrestle much? Why do questions always seem to be more attractive to me than declarative statements?
Score: 1 for 4
SWITCH!
5. EV2.0 is a lackluster name for TNA's ECW faction.
Erik Luers:FACT. Well, things are tough for TNA. They can't call them the ECW Crew, and I'm pretty sure WWE has copywritten the term term "extremists" as well. I assume TNA didn't want to go with "terrorists" or "anarchists" due to obvious reasons. Maybe call them "unabombers". TNA should be politically correct and identify them as "People You Sometimes See In Chikara And Dragon Gate But Who Always Happen To Be Free When We Tape Our Show On Mondays and Tuesdays", or simply, the P.Y.S.S.C.D.G.A.....ah, the joke's killed. In all seriousness (not really but whatever), they should have just called them the Originals and left it at. If anyone asked what they were the Originals of, umm, give them an evenflow DDT and walk away. I will admit that EV2.0 is a bad name. It makes me think of Tron for some reason. Actually, that sequel is looking pretty cool. Sadly, EV2.0 still sounds shitty. If they can recruit Jeff Bridges, we'll talk. Is Tron sponsored by Midway games? Is that the big twist? Me and my questions again.
Ari Berenstein:FACT. It sounds like a new name for a Dyson Vacuum. Or the acronym for "Extra Virgin Olive Oil". I understand and even agree with the need to have a name that is similar to "ECW" or at least somehow evokes its memory. For me, this new name is way too clunky and vague to get that far.
Score: 2 for 5
6. Having the Big Show dominate the Straight Edge Society and unmask both CM Punk and Joey Mercury with ease has hurt the Society's credibility.
Erik Luers:FICTION. The Big Show is a monster in size, so their credibility isn't hurt by being bitched out by a monster. C'mon, it's Joey Mercury for chrissakes! His credibility took a nose dive (pun intended) when he used to come out with that fur coat with the flashy, electronic scrolling letters that made him look like a human stock exchange. The Straight Edge society will do fine. They're not drinking or doing drugs, remember? That's the first key to success. Don't ask me what the second key is. It was time for an unmasking, in my opinion, and if anything, it will do more to help their overall character progression than stunt it. You will see.
Ari Berenstein:FACT. The last few weeks have been some of the stupider booking decisions regarding the treatment of the Straight Edge Society. Punk couldn't wrestle for a while after his shoulder injury, so instead of keeping him and his group hot through backstage promos or angles where they are attacking the good guys in preparation for future feuds, they book them to look weak. First they show cracks in the foundation with Serena's relapse, and then Punk is repeatedly humiliated by The Big Show. While I would have wanted a "Mask vs. Title" match between Punk and Mysterio at Summerslam to reprise their feud from earlier in the year, there could have just as easily been a Mask match against Big Show. Joey Mercury needed to be unmasked at some point, so I don't think Show unmasking him would have been so horrible so long as it built up to a match with Punk with the mask on the line. The real important thing with Mercury will be to see if WWE books a segment where he explains why he joined S.E.S. Otherwise he is just another goof on the team, whether he is covered up or not. All told, S.E.S. has been greatly hurt with this new program against Big Show, and I don't see it getting any better.
Score: 2 for 6
7. Lance Storm did the right thing by sticking with his convictions and not signing on for Hardcore Justice.
Erik Luers:FACT. It is a proven fact that after you retire from in-ring competition, you must immediately turn on the computer that's been sitting in your apartment for years on Off Mode and start up a blog. I've read this in the Barry Horowitz book, Tips On How to Stay Relevant Years After You Are No Longer Relevant (it's not a real book.......yet). And yet, I think Storm did the right thing by keeping his word. That shows that he means what he types. He's also past his prime, and it's best to sit out any and all reunion shows. There's been some rumors that New Jack may be at Hardcore Justice, which is even more reason for Storm to stay home. New Jack's "fun times" are to blading as fisting is to foreplay. Can't risk any more Mass Transit damage. We need Justin Credible to come back. I don't know why, but we do. Just to hear that X-Factor theme song one more time, I guess. Oh, and bring back Cyrus! Jonah Hill plays him in a new bio-pic, I hear.
Ari Berenstein:FACT. Just because you were once a part of ECW doesn't mean you have to show up for EVERY reunion show--hell, Paul Heyman isn't going to be there (as far as we know right now), so Storm not showing up is fine by me. It shows a great amount of personal fortitude and conviction not to sell out his opinion by appearing on TNA's version of the ECW reunion show. Storm has long been known for his criticisms of the booking direction (or lack of it) in TNA. He has tried several times to follow TNA, only to give up watching the show because of frustrations surround the logic behind the booking. There are plenty of times when wrestlers have complained about a promotion (on shoot interviews or the like), but have gone to work for that company anyway. Storm makes a comfortable living with his wrestling school, enough that he could turn this offer down without hearing anything about money. Now he did this in part because he didn't actually want to be tempted by a good offer. Is there the possibility he would have gone for the right price? Of course. However, Storm didn't let it get that far and in doing so strengthens any future opinion and criticism of TNA, because he didn't ignore his complaints for the sake of the dollar.
Score: 3 for 7
8. Cody Rhodes deserves the push he's getting due to his efforts in getting the "Dashing" gimmick over.
Erik Luers:FACT. That guy has some good line readings. He can say "Dashing Cody Rhodes" in more ways than Vivien Leigh could describe the "kindness of strangers". There's DASHING Cody Rhodes, or Dashing CODY Rhodes, or my personal favorite, DAShing COdy RHOdes (it's best to try this pronunciation as your voice fluctuates while going through puberty). I think his new gimmick is very old school and that's why I like it. It's the arrogantly cocky heel. It's further proof, after The A Team and live action GI Joe movie, that we are actually still living in 1985. What's coming out on Blu Ray soon? WTF? Back To The Future? That's it, I'm done. We are living in 1985, aren't we? Rhodes, while slowly improving in the ring, is finally get a singles push, and I'm hoping for the best. It also helps that he's on Smackdown. DiBiase is gonna have trouble breaking out on Raw, while Rhodes could be a future multiple-time IC champion. On a side note: what's with the WWE, PG rated to a tee, and all their parental bashing as of late? Rhodes says that he's better looking than his Dad, and Jack Swagger allows his "father" to get chokeslammed and says that he deserved it. This isn't what we should be teaching our children! Honor thy parents and Cheat on thy Wellness Program our two commandments all WWE employees should live by.
Ari Berenstein:FACT. I don't know why, but I touched some nerves when I wrote in my column last week that I hated the segment where Rhodes was giving grooming tips. My criticism was never about Cody, but rather about the over-the-top post-production being done for that segment. As far as Rhodes goes, I have no problem with the new gimmick or the push. He is working hard with this "dashing" personality. Its clear he has shown a willingness to be shameless in doing so. He has been shown talking to himself in the mirror, what many would consider embarrassing if caught by someone else. I dig his new entrance, where he poses in front of a digital mirror. It's good stuff. I'd like more of that and less of stock footage of nose hair trimming, thank you. So yes, Cody deserves his push or at least a chance to work with it and elevate himself on the Smackdown roster.
Score: 3 for 7
And there you have it folks…Ari and Erik split the difference for an even 4 for 8! I'd like to thank both of them for their answers and you the readers for checking out their thoughts. For Ari Berenstein and Erik Luers, this is Jeremy Thomas saying join us next week for more Wrestling Fact or Fiction!
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2. Nexus is a great angle. You get 7 no names into the main event angle that has lasted over 2 months and isnt going to end anytime soon.
The IWC complains about not pushing young talent. WWE just pushed SEVEN at once and people complain?
Just cause Morrison and Bourne, internet darlings aren't getting pushed nearly as much as Miz and Sheamus...you complain?
Whiny bitches...
Posted By: Guest#5923 (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM
The SES hasn't been all that powerful since it first started. I understand that heels need to lose time to time, but the SES is borderline useless for Punk.
I know the IWC will instantly accept anything between new guys in the main event scene but honestly I am not interested in a Miz vs. Sheamus. Miz is great on the mic but kind of boring in the ring and Sheamus while perfect for the current WWE style hasn't wowed me personally. But that's just my 2 cents
At least the Dashing gimmick give Cody character.
I heard that McCool has been pushing for more activity for the ladies, but to be honest I don't think anyone outside of diehard wrestling fans care about the divas. So if Vince & Co think its better to have models turn wrestler then wrestler getting a "dream" job (I'd assume a dream job at least) then so be it.
I didn't care for Khali mostly because he's boring as fuck.
AJ won't bring anything to the Global title because its TNA. TNA is the only company I have ever witness to never capitalize on anything. If there is a mistake to be made TNA has made it, twice. Seriously I can't see TNA making it to 2011. It's sad but true. If ROH was in TNA's position I guarentee that word of mouth alone would make it more successful.
Posted By: My 2 Cents (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM
@Guest#5923
THANK YOU! I have been saying that for the longest. We've been begging WWE to make new stars and they finally do in the Miz, Sheamus, and the Nexus 7 and we're still not happy?
So its not Kofi Borston, John Borrinson or Evan Bored but its better then Cena vs. Orton round 203040403
Posted By: Guest#3594 (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:31 PM
"Daniel Bryan was fired and then they never explain it! "
wade barrett did explain it, the RAW immediately following bryans release. albeit a cheap cop-out answer, but still, it did not go unexplained.
Posted By: pat (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:37 PM
"TNA should be politically correct and identify them as "People You Sometimes See In Chikara And Dragon Gate But Who Always Happen To Be Free When We Tape Our Show On Mondays and Tuesdays", or simply, the P.Y.S.S.C.D.G.A.....ah, the joke's killed. "
EPIC JOKE FAIL---Erik, next time, just tell us what you think. Quit trying to be like Dunn.
Posted By: CryptoBiz (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:45 PM
1. Sheamus and the Miz: Don't book it. 2. AJ Styles: My, how the mighty have fallen. 3. Nature's little oopsie: What a waste. 4. The WWE's women's division: Oh, so that's what it is. 5. EV2.0: OMG. 6. The Straight Edge Society: It's now "The Big Show's tricks". 7. Lance Storm: Right call. 8. "Dashing" Cody Rhodes: More like "Dumbass" Cody Rhodes.
Posted By: KnyghtRyder (Registered) on July 29, 2010 at 12:05 AM
So if TNA really renames the Global Title the TV title, will this be the first title ever to be called three different things?
I really doubt the title will get a big elevation even though AJ is holding it. The Legends title got somewhat of a rub for awhile but then eventually it was renamed the Global title and Rob Terry got a hold of it and didn't really stick out much.
As for Nexus, some good points were made but overall I enjoy the angle. Wade Barrett is very good on the mic and has shown that he can work with a couple of the current stars right now (I'm still very impressed with how he lifted Henry over his head even though he came very close to dropping him.) The longevity of this angle will heavily rely on what happens at Summerslam, something big has to happen for Nexus besides a team victory. Either a big name WWE superstar defects to Nexus or the GM gets revealed and begins to show a heavy bias towards Nexus. Adding Khali would be entirely useless, even if he is booked to be a serious monster heel again, he's just not a main event star even though they let him hold the world heavyweight title before.
While most of Erik's jokes didn't really make me laugh, I'm in big agreement of what he said about Miz and Sheamus. Unless one of them turn face (which I don't see/want happening anytime soon) I just don't think they could have a good feud at this time.
Posted By: Guest#3893 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:07 AM
4. The WWE casting call for new Divas is just another example of how little the company thinks of their women's division.
You both said fiction then gave a list of examples of how little the company thinks of their women's division. I think you meant FACT, guys.
Posted By: Guest#1659 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:07 AM
TV title=good
Posted By: Guest#2728 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:15 AM
1. DASHING Cody Rhodes is awesome.
2. Nexus is a great angle. You get 7 no names into the main event angle that has lasted over 2 months and isnt going to end anytime soon.
The IWC complains about not pushing young talent. WWE just pushed SEVEN at once and people complain?
Just cause Morrison and Bourne, internet darlings aren't getting pushed nearly as much as Miz and Sheamus...you complain?
Whiny bitches...
Posted By: Guest#5923 (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM
THIS^
Posted By: Molly (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:17 AM
Terry had been defending the belt on Xplosion which is televised, just not in the United States.
Posted By: Guest#6658 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:20 AM
It's a TV title now? THANK GOD. Right move.
Posted By: berkley jewlz (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:20 AM
All of Nexus aren't stars. Tarver, Young and Slater are NOT stars. I doubt they ever will be.
Posted By: demon (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:23 AM
If handing the newly christened T.V. Title to AJ Styles means more of his matches on Impact and possibly elevating someone like Homicide(which I hope they do) or Suicide(if he ever comes back) then I'm good.
*Has anyone noticed that TNA's roster still includes Daniels, Hall, and Syxx? Is there are reason for that, or are they just slow getting around to changing it?*
Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:24 AM
I'm guest 3893, I forgot to add my two cents on the Divas: they may not put too much thought into them as they do with the male superstars but think about this. If they didn't care about the Divas at all, wouldn't they have just axed the division? Why would they decide that both Smackdown and Raw need their own womens' titles when they went with only one woman's title for six years since the brand extension?
If anything, a Diva's casting call shows they do care just they don't know how to book it. Honestly, now that WWE is PG, shouldn't they stop looking at Supermodels who didn't originally plan on going to WWE and look for women who are actually talented even if they aren't the best looking?
One thing I want to know is if the Divas Division really have any impact on the current WWE's product sales or ratings. Besides perhaps a "Divas Photoshoot in Hawaii" DVD, do they move any merchandise like T-shirts, hats, etc.?
Posted By: 3893 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:25 AM
People still don't like Sheamus for real? I give Sheamus all of the credit in the world for making me a believer. I hated that he got pushed so fast at first but ever since he took out Triply Ahhche, he's taken it to the next level. The thing thats surprising me most about him right now tho is that he can actually talk really well. He sounds believable when he makes threats but at the same time he plays the coward very well too. Now that I think about it, Raw has a shitload of great talkers on the roster:
Jericho
Edge
Miz
Sheamus
HHH when he comes back
Cena, even tho i personally hate his promo style
Barret, who is going to be one of the best promos they have in the future.. man, seeing Barret and Danielson cut angry promos would've been awesome
On the flipside though, they also have some terrible promo guys like:
DiBiase (does he do anything well?)
Bourne
Morrison
The Hart Dynasty (Natalya is the most believable out of the 3.. I would also ravage her if given the chance)
All of the NXT people not named Barret or Tarver
Posted By: Guest#4369 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:28 AM
"2. Nexus is a great angle. You get 7 no names into the main event angle that has lasted over 2 months and isnt going to end anytime soon."
Posted By: Guest#5923 (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM
The Spirit Squad agree that this is a genius idea.
Posted By: Conk (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:30 AM
Eric Luers and Ari made this the most entertaining incarnation of this column I've seen. I don't remember seeing Eric anywhere else on the site, but he really did a great job here.
Posted By: Guest#6480 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:37 AM
AJ won't bring anything to the Global title because its TNA. TNA is the only company I have ever witness to never capitalize on anything. If there is a mistake to be made TNA has made it, twice. Seriously I can't see TNA making it to 2011. It's sad but true. If ROH was in TNA's position I guarentee that word of mouth alone would make it more successful.
Posted By: My 2 Cents (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM
lol Guessing how long TNA will be around seems to be an every year thing with you idiots. You're wrong every year. After 2011 comes and TNA is still around. You morons will move on to 2012, right?
Posted By: Guest#6947 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:38 AM
Tarver is the only other star in Nexus. I don't understand why he gets so much hate. He's the ONLY person besides Barret than can speak more than 3 words and sound believable. He's also the only other person with any charisma in his actions.
Otunga is a joke. Every time he speaks I think I'm being threatened by a 14 year old. He's as believable as Bobby Lashley, except Bobby Lashley actually looked intimidating in the ring to make up for awful mic skills. Skip Sheffield looks intimidating in the ring but he can't speak for shit. They don't let Gabriel speak, EVER, which tells you something right away. He has a nice 450 but I honestly had to look his name up, he's been so irrelevant. Heath Slater is another name I had to look up.
After they let Danielson go, they had to pick between all of those guys to back up Barretts promos. Clearly the only person that's anywhere near capable of saying more than 5 words in a row without sounding like a fool is Tarver. Not only that, sometimes he actually sounds like he believes in the Nexus cause which is always good, considering no one else except Sheffield and Barrett ever look like they're trying to hurt people when they do beat downs in the ring. If they don't let you talk because you have no mic skills, at least make it look like you're angry when you're in the ring.
Posted By: Guest#4853 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:43 AM
Spirit Squad sucked dude.
Posted By: Guest#1229 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:45 AM
Khali in Nexus? Nah, It's Ranjin...
Posted By: D. Young (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:53 AM
I think they should take the NXT losers from this year and have a Nexus faction on Smackdown. COUld make PPVs interesting when both factions show up and join forces. Survivor Series is coming up . It could possibly work there
Posted By: Guest#7981 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:55 AM
EV2>Riot Makers
Posted By: Guest#0816 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:59 AM
Damn you Vince, you cannot take the name I came up with. Dashing, Paul Roma.
Posted By: Paul Roma (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 01:10 AM
The MIZ is going to be turned full babyface.
Posted By: Guest#3177 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 01:17 AM
My two favorite WWE characters as of right now....MIZ and DASHING Cody Rhodes. Cody's gimmick makes me laugh and I say "dashing" in the mirror when i floss my teeth in the morning. And the Miz gets credit for becoming the star that he is and for making me love to hate him. I couldn't say that a few years ago when I just hated him. Now I love to hate him.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 01:31 AM
The guy/girl tht does the Cody Rhodes video with the sound effects should be doing the promos for the PPVs and getting a raise. And Cody should get a title soon, Kofi could stand to lose it right? Is he champ?
Oh and I was going to complain about something but forgot what it was. How about this.... "stop complainin and enjoy the show IWC!" Whenw glad to get that out of my system...
Posted By: Guest#2862 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 01:34 AM
People still don't like Sheamus for real? I give Sheamus all of the credit in the world for making me a believer. I hated that he got pushed so fast at first but ever since he took out Triply Ahhche, he's taken it to the next level. The thing thats surprising me most about him right now tho is that he can actually talk really well. He sounds believable when he makes threats but at the same time he plays the coward very well too. Now that I think about it, Raw has a shitload of great talkers on the roster:
Ok name one good Sheamus match and I will watch it. I've seen the past ppvs up to Wrestlemania and have yet to see anything from Sheamus. Did not like his match with HHH...
Posted By: Guest#4004 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 01:38 AM
To the morons who say "Well i know the IWC....." shut the hell up seriously.
Posted By: Guest#4169 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 01:51 AM
The IWC complains about not pushing young talent. WWE just pushed SEVEN at once and people complain?
Posted By: Guest#5923 (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM
The problem is not w/ the push, but the way theyre pushed. These guys are rookies. They just got out of 'training camp'. And were supposed to believe theyve got the entire roster shaking in their boots?
Posted By: Mark of Excellence (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 01:52 AM
This is the one column I look forward to every week on 411, and I'm never one to bash for the sake of bashing. But Erik Luers, not only do you get your facts mixed up on almost every comment, you also write as if you have ADHD. Very annoying.
On a side note, Dashing Cody Rhodes is phenomenal. That is all.
Posted By: Save_Us_Y2J (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 01:55 AM
MIKE ENOS!
Posted By: sorryimlate.com (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 02:16 AM
Wade Barrett is the only one who has a future in the wwe
Posted By: Guest#3099 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 02:18 AM
I love the idiots praising the Global Title being changed the to TV Title!
ANOTHER re-tread decision from Russo!
It never gets old trying to defend TNA, does it guys?
Posted By: Gregson (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 02:22 AM
Trish Stratus was a prostitute??
Posted By: Confused.com (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 02:50 AM
The tv title? AJ has now truly become Tully Blanchard
Posted By: Joe Louis (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 02:56 AM
1) Fiction: First off: Not the right time. Second: come on, has the Piss or Shitmus really given us a "great one on one match" nah. Morrison and MVP carried Miz, HHH and Cena carried Sheamus.
2) Fiction: AJ needs to be a main-eventer not a mid-carder. Change the Global Title to the TNA TV Title: Give it to the mid-carders and run with it.
3) Fact: The Great Crapli sucks, and the point (be it a small one) of Nexus is to "try to get the future of wrestling over" and the Great Crapli isn't the future of wrestling. But Erik's right: Nexus has been a terrible booking from the start
4) Fact: The real question should be Fact or Fiction: Does the Divas really matter in the WWE today???
5) Fact: Team Xtreme or Xtremists would have been better.
6) Fact: Big Slow dominating an entire stable that was built to be a heel faction on SD? Really? Poor decision.
7) Fact: Storm had no choice, but to say no. He signs with TNA...he's seen as a sell out.
8) Fact: The Model deserves the push and I can't wait for his new cologne called "Arrogance" or his new catchphrase "I'm the reflection of perfection".
Posted By: Al Snow Fan (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 03:05 AM
Erik Luers: "And whoevever created the Nexus t-shirts should be fired on the spot. Seriously, people get paid for that?"
#1 selling shirt in American pro-wrestling is the Nexus shirt.
Posted By: What a prick (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 03:48 AM
Yah they both answered Fiction for the diva's question even though they both ment fact based on their writing afterwords. Neither of them read the question right.
Posted By: Guy (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 03:54 AM
Oh, and can the next WWE Film star Sheamus and Liam Neeson as crime fighters for the IRA?
_______________________________________
You Americans have so weird perspectives of foreign politics.
Palestinians = bad. IRA = good.
Ah, the wonders of ignorance, lobbying and latent racism...
Posted By: Guest#3692 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 04:28 AM
Got to love the fact the same people who are currently wholeheartedly supporting the 'Nexus 7' will be the same ones crapping on them when they're being pushed as singles stars who can't wrestle...
Posted By: Guest#3438 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 04:37 AM
'Oh, and can the next WWE Film star Sheamus and Liam Neeson as crime fighters for the IRA? That would be amazing.'
Yeah! And then we could have Muhammed Hassan & Daivari come back and fly a plane into the Twin Towers again! That'd be awesome too!
Some of use still have family that have had friends and other family members killed by those cowardly pricks. Grow the fuck up, you thick cunt.
Posted By: roy 'The Zebra Kid' Bevis (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 04:43 AM
Why the heck do these always have a score? It's not like there can be a winner since it's all opinion anyway.
Just wondering.
Posted By: Meh (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 05:25 AM
As a Northern Irishman let me say - what the hell is "crime fighters for the IRA" meant to mean?
Posted By: Ryannnnnn (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 05:37 AM
Terry had been defending the belt on Xplosion which is televised, just not in the United States.
Posted By: Guest#6658 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:20 AM
And it was finally making sense as a belt, but TNA just can't sit still on anything (or possibly there's a different booking team for Xplosion & no-one told Hogan et al that Terry was feuding w/ Magnus :roll:)
Posted By: Dave^G (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 05:38 AM
1. DASHING Cody Rhodes is awesome.
2. Nexus is a great angle. You get 7 no names into the main event angle that has lasted over 2 months and isnt going to end anytime soon.
The IWC complains about not pushing young talent. WWE just pushed SEVEN at once and people complain?
Just cause Morrison and Bourne, internet darlings aren't getting pushed nearly as much as Miz and Sheamus...you complain?
Whiny bitches...
Posted By: Guest#5923 (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM
1. You love the cock!
2. They are all 29 - 33. Not exactly young
3. Morrison and Bourne can actually wrestle entertaining matches even thought they suck on the mic.
4. You'll be the whiny bitch once Cody sticks it to you
Posted By: Slave (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 05:53 AM
They weren't TEASING Khali joining Nexus you fucking morons. They were telling the story the Nexus had a match next and didn't want to mess with the giant. They wanted to stay focused on the match. And Khali isn't stupid enough (yeah I said it) to fight all of them. Too bad King & Cole (worst announcers on TV) missed ALL OF THIS!!
Posted By: Guest#7464 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 07:21 AM
1. Fiction. Would love to see it but who turns face? Heel-Heel programs are boring as Hell. The fans seem to WANT to turn Miz face, they got their way with Orton, but Miz wouldn't hold the same cocky value as a face. Sheamus well, he couldn't draw heat in a tanning bed let alone get a face reaction.
2. Fiction. Title is a joke plain and simple. So are the knockout tag titles.
3. Fact. Why, I ask, why?
4. Fact. But then again, did that surprise anyone?
5. Fact. But the truth of the matter is what CAN you call them with the copyrights installed by the E? Not many things work...
6. Fiction. I'm sorry, they had credibility? Could have fooled me...
7. Fact. I applaud Storm for not coming back just for a one off, really I do. Some others should take his lead.
8. Fact. A push as the IC title champion is eminent I believe, unless Rhodes would team with someone to get the tag titles. But he already has held them with Holly/Dibiease so why bother?
Posted By: RJ (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:05 AM
tna has too many titles. changing the name of one wont change how it is treated.
as for miz/shaemus, they shouldnt feud outright. i hope the wwe has miz keep flirting with the idea of cashing in at any moment.(ie. sitting at ringside, standing on the ramp etc).
if tna wants to do an invasion angle of with a defunct company. why not try a WCCW invasion with kamala, kevin von erich, lacey von erich, the midnight express and jimmy garvin?
Posted By: rey (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:14 AM
The spirit squad was different because they were booked as jokes. It tok them months to get the top level guys to take them seriously. Then they were jobbed out and done. (Thank God Dolph Ziggler rose from those ashes at least). The Nexus have been booked to be a serious threat with serious goals from the start.
Posted By: lowe (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:18 AM
WWE should have never hired models, look at what a failure Trish Stratus turned out to be...
Posted By: yep... (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:29 AM
First and foremost, I love the Nexus angle, but some of those guys don't have it, and never will. These are Slater, Tarver, Sheffield, and Otunga. ESPECIALLY Otunga, he's a second rate celebrity with no skill in the ring whatsoever.
As for the Miz and Sheamus angle, I love that, too. I'm Irish, so having Sheamus around was a big boon to me. You also said something to the effect that the Miz and Sheamus aren't good workers? I call bull shit on that, especially when it comes to the Miz. Look back to how that guy started, at how terrible he was, and then look at him now. I think the Miz has one of the strongest work ethics in the WWE, and he'll keep getting better and better with time. He can damn sure put on a better match than Cena any day.
Posted By: Angelus (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:34 AM
This Luers character sounds like a moron. "wah, I don't like the Nexus, thus they aren't getting over! And their t-shirt design sucks, wah!" Listen to their heat, they clearly aren't jobbers any more.
And check out the News Journal today on this very site- their t-shirt is the #1 seller on WWEShop.com right now.
Posted By: Distracto (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:45 AM
Having Khali involved in any angle that places him on my TV is a bad idea. The spectacle is done and over with, and we have Big Show for the oooh's and aaahh's of a giant.
Rhodes is doing well and, with a little more time, will be a hot IC heel. The only thing I can see getting hurt by this is Ziggler. Poor guy. Can't catch a break to save his life. Anyone remember when he choked out Kane? Yeah, Kane has the HW belt now... poor Ziggler.
The Nexus angle is not bad as a whole, but there are parts that don't make sense. The split promos are annoying and seem too staged, if you can have that in a wrestling show. The attack on the HoFers made no sense because they beat up Lawler. All of them should have been fired given the restriction of beating up current talent. But anywho, most of them won't last anyway. They will go the Spirit Squad route. The only survivor is Ziggler... poor Ziggler.
Posted By: MPMoore (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 09:31 AM
Spirit Squad sucked because they were cheerleaders and also made to look weak. When they wrestled, they were actually decent in the ring. Sometimes horrible gimmicks ruin perfectly acceptable talents (hello Red Rooster).
Nexus is being put over as a monster group. If you notice, this is even one of the selling points in the storyline - there is no dissention, there is Barrett as the leader and everyone else in an equal position. As a group, they can hide individual weaknesses (and slowly work on improving those weaknesses). If someone is weak on the mic - give them a line or two each week to get them more comfortable. If they can't carry match, give them 2 minutes and have them hit a finisher.
Nexus is being booked seriously - Spirit Squad was not. Both groups were a bunch a developmental talents - but that's where the similarities end.
Posted By: SpankyHamm (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 09:42 AM
TNA is dying more and more every month. And eventually it's game over for them and i'll have to go back to watching WWE which is so lame while those WWE smarks celebrate.
Posted By: Guest#1480 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 09:57 AM
I hope WWE won't end up screwing up the Miz's Money in the Bank in the long term. That's why I like it when they can cash it in as soon as they can. The Miz has become the new Diamond Dallas Page, a "anomaly" like DDP once said, "that wasn't suppose to happen." Well guess what folks, this "anomaly" could be WWE champion before Wrestlemania. Miz is basically in the same spot that Ken Anderson was a few years ago. Poor Mr. Anderson, if he hadn't been so lazy in the ring during that time and pissed off Cena and Orton. Ken is much better off in TNA anyway. And the Miz is AWESOME!
Posted By: billy (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 09:59 AM
"Oh, and can the next WWE Film star Sheamus and Liam Neeson as crime fighters for the IRA"
Um you do realise the IRA are terrorists? It should be them taking down the IRA.
Posted By: Thejuice (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM
"Oh, and can the next WWE Film star Sheamus and Liam Neeson as crime fighters for the IRA?
_______________________________________
You Americans have so weird perspectives of foreign politics.
Palestinians = bad. IRA = good."
Ah, the wonders of ignorance, lobbying and latent racism... "
Granted this was a retarded comment but i detect some racism in a blanket statement declaring 300 + million people ignorant racists. One day I will teach my European (or wherever you might be from) friends that we are not all the same as our dumb hillbilly minorities that make it onto tv just because they can yell the loudest and say the dumbest things....
Posted By: Punk (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 11:35 AM
"New Jack's 'fun times' are to blading as fisting is to foreplay."
Ooookaaaaay....
Posted By: JMAC (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 11:39 AM
"Sheamus is intimidating and actually makes you hang on to every word he says"
Hahaha!! R u serious? That just shows that people have been beat over the head so much with years of stagnation that Sheamus makes a compelling character. You may as well say the same thing about Drew McIntyre.
Dashing Cody Rhodes rules, Khali sucks ass and should only have matches on international tours, then get released.
Posted By: SS87 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:09 PM
And as for the Nexus, it's obvious that they are high on Barrett, Tarver, and Sheffield, being there the ones who get all the mic time. Otunga is HATED and it isn't just "X-Pac Heat". He could do wonders studying some '93-98 Scott Steiner videos. Heath Slater though is pretty bland, but I could see him being some arrogant kinda heel, like Dolph Ziggler or something. Young should probably team back with Percy Watson a few months from now, and other than the 450, I have no idea what else Gabriel has to offer.
Posted By: SS87 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:15 PM
WWE should have never hired models, look at what a failure Trish Stratus turned out to be...
Posted By: yep... (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:29 AM
And now look at Ashley Massaro, Maria, The Bellas, Candice Michelle, Christy Hemme...
Posted By: SS87 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:26 PM
Poor Mr. Anderson, if he hadn't been so lazy in the ring during that time and pissed off Cena and Orton. Ken is much better off in TNA anyway. And the Miz is AWESOME!
Posted By: billy (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 09:59 AM
It was Anderson's constant injuries that had the company lose faith in him. Orton gets injured alot, but not every 3-6 months like Anderson did.
Posted By: SS87 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:32 PM
First and foremost, I love the Nexus angle, but some of those guys don't have it, and never will. These are Slater, Tarver, Sheffield, and Otunga. ESPECIALLY Otunga, he's a second rate celebrity with no skill in the ring whatsoever.
As for the Miz and Sheamus angle, I love that, too. I'm Irish, so having Sheamus around was a big boon to me. You also said something to the effect that the Miz and Sheamus aren't good workers? I call bull shit on that, especially when it comes to the Miz. Look back to how that guy started, at how terrible he was, and then look at him now. I think the Miz has one of the strongest work ethics in the WWE, and he'll keep getting better and better with time. He can damn sure put on a better match than Cena any day.
Posted By: Angelus (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:34 AM
Um no, while the Miz has improved 10 fold and is constantly getting better, as a singles wrestler he is not that good. He's getting much better working the WWE style but his matches aren't exciting enough to pull it off.
Sheamus was pushed to the moon very, very quickly that's fine everyone wants new blood blah, blah, blah but like Miz he has yet to have that one match to sell him as a champion. Like the Miz he has improved. But watch his longer matches, they tend to be very boring. He works the WWE style pretty well but he definantly needs more improvement before he's really THE heel of the WWE.
And last but not least, the Miz is NOT better then Cena. I know its cool to hate Cena (until he turns heel one day) but let's not forget the awesome year he had in 2007. Let's not forget that he bust his ass and has matches that the crowd is into. Cena is what a lot of WWE should try to become. He's no HBK, that's fine, but to deny that most of his big matches are at least good is being a blind hater.
Posted By: Guest#0134 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:34 PM
Nexus (still hate the name) are neither that young nor that talented, so it is already a contradiction of terms call ing them that. The only thing they are 'young' at is being seen on WWE. And none of the guys left will be there in 18 months. I would say a year, but they might keep a couple of the big guys around as jobbers until they get hurt one too many times.
When the guys dont even read the qestions (obvious by the answers) then it sort of kills what little credibility they might try to lend to this column.
As far as Lance Storm, I think people are giving this guy way too much credit. Although I havent watched this 'story' unfold, has it been confirmed that TNA actually reached out to this guy for real? Or is it just more of his inane ramblings and always trying to throw some backhanded comments about TNA and splatter them all over the internet?
The guy was is and forever wil be a zero, and while some peopelmight claim that makes him 'perfect' for TNA, I still doubt very much they even acknowledge the guy let alone actually reached out to him. But if they did would like to see where they admit/confirm it.
Belts....while they surely mean more in TNA than they do WWE, I am not sure giving a belt to anyone justifies it or makes it mmore legit. The thing was created as a joke, they tried to make it serious before when it was on frogboy, but they turned that into a joke too with al the stipulations put on it. Even if they were part of EY being a scared punk it still demeaned it. Renaming it wont do any good. Basically for it to 'work' they would have to trash that belt altogether and just create a new one. if they want to call it the TV title, whatever.
Posted By: Rich (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:36 PM
I'd like to see Cody Rhodes team with Husky Harris to give another tag team for the WWE
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 12:44 PM
"In my opinion, the Nexus as a whole has been a terrible booking move. They are a bunch of unestablished jobbers that the WWE is hoping the WWE "universe" will take seriously."
How are they jobbers? What "jobs" have they done recently? They're new guys who were treated like jerks on the feeder show so they militantly organized and are executing a vendetta against the company that humiliated them. It's a pretty good angle where the whole point is that they're unestablished.
I love the fact that it's actually a group of new faces. They haven't been jobbed out week after week like all the other midcard heels (Primo, Regal, Ryder). Their freshness allows them to take a shot at an upper-angle without years of misuse baggage holding them back.
It's true that Barrett is the only obvious star, with Gabriel probably coming the closest in terms of ring skill, but I'm open to the possibility that the other guys will prove their worth in this angle. They've been booking the group smartly so that every guy has a chance to find his strengths without being buried by his weaknesses.
Otunga is still too green in the ring, but in big tag matches he can learn from the other wrestlers while only needing to properly execute a few moves at a time.
Sheffield has developed quite a bit since his Cornfed Meathead gimmick. I'm actually liking him in his monster role for the group.
Tarver appeared to be a lost cause on NXT, but now he's the second strongest promo in the group and he's doing the best job of selling the angle. He's also started working a nice gimmick with the muzzle where he pulls it up when it's time to get serious, emphasizing his crazy eyes.
Slater seems like an odd fit for the group with his unintimidating appearance, but he's one of the better workers and he's naturally dislikable. He adds a good arrogant punk element to the aesthetic.
Darren Young is a big guy who can move. He seems to still be finding himself (and his hairstyle), but he adds more physical legitimacy. He makes a good soldier if nothing else.
Gabriel's pre 450 face owns everything and he hits the move perfectly. He is a huge asset to the factions credibility.
The booking has really made the group exceed the sum of its parts in an admirable fashion. I think this is an instance where you need to open up and give these guys a shot rather than crossing your arms and denouncing them all for not having "IT".
Or don't do that and hate the angle and don't enjoy Summerslam. I don't care. As long as I get to be happy with the SS match and it's build, I'm all good.
Posted By: Gorilla Press (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 01:31 PM
"Oh, and can the next WWE Film star Sheamus and Liam Neeson as crime fighters for the IRA"
Um you do realise the IRA are terrorists? It should be them taking down the IRA.
Posted By: Thejuice (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM
You're right. I should have said "against" and not "for". My mistake.
Erik
Posted By: Erik Luers (Registered) on July 29, 2010 at 01:51 PM
1. DASHING Cody Rhodes is awesome.
2. Nexus is a great angle. You get 7 no names into the main event angle that has lasted over 2 months and isnt going to end anytime soon.
The IWC complains about not pushing young talent. WWE just pushed SEVEN at once and people complain?
Just cause Morrison and Bourne, internet darlings aren't getting pushed nearly as much as Miz and Sheamus...you complain?
Whiny bitches...
Posted By: Guest#5923 (Guest) on July 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM
Finally someone gets it! And this also shows that limited ring ability is no match for flow on the mic. Sheamus doesn't do anything in the ring, but damn has he improved on the mic or what?? And the miz is on par (I said ON PAR, not GREATER THAN) with The Rock in his ability to speak and improv on the mic, and he's not a bad wrestler, so it is very believable that he will be world champ sometime in 2 years or less. And look at how Sheamus and Dashing Cody Rhodes took gimmicks that coulda sucked and are really exploring how far they can take their characters, whereas Evan Bourne and Kofi Kingston and Ted Dibiase aren't really going for broke (I think Morrison is on the verge of a great breakthrough with his though, and all it took was a slight beard). There always has to be a gimmick...tomorrow if Evan were to cut a promo about how he hates white people, I would follow his character because that would rule! If Kofi were to bring a parakeet to the ring and use it better than koko b ware, I would follow it. If Ted and Maryse started acting overly dramatic like soap opera characters, I would follow it, because they all need just ONE HOOK. Something that fans will associate with them. I call it THE WARRIOR'S EFFECT. Each gang in THE WARRIORS movie had a gimmick (the baseball players, the blacks, the latinos, etc. WWE is no different.
Posted By: Nate (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 02:38 PM
Sheamus, the Global Title, WWE women's division and Dashing Cody Rhodes are all total embarrassments to wrestling.
Posted By: Guest#3718 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 03:34 PM
Miz has really sucked since he won MITB. He needs to stop cutting comedy promos and start cutting serious promos if he wants to main event. If he doesn't he will be the first person to lose when cashing in MITB.
Posted By: Guest#9325 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 04:16 PM
Anyone else think that Cody Rhodes is basically doing a Patrick Bateman impression?
Posted By: patronsaint21 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 04:54 PM
WAIT. Eric, you say Lance Storm is past his prime and shouldn't be at reunion shows, but you want to see Justin Credible? o_O W. T. F.
Posted By: Yup. (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 05:33 PM
What does Sheamus having good/bad matches have ANYTHING to do with his promo skills? I can't think of one situation where someone was wrestling while giving a promo. It is possible to separate the two and rate each skill.
Plus, Sheamus is on RAW where wrestling ability obviously is not that important anymore, unless you're Jericho or Edge. Everyone else has standard matches. Morrison was having amazing matches on Smackdown a year ago. When's the last time he had a great match? Bourne had a short series of good matches with Jericho (what decent wrestler wouldn't?). What other great matches has he had in the last year? The RAW roster isn't exactly the place to set the world on fire with your WRESTLING anymore.
I guess this is pointless though. A lot of you are probably the same people who thought that the Air Bourne into the RKO looked "weak".
I would not want to have Morrison, Bourne, Truth, Dibiase, The Hart Dynasty, the Usos, or anyone in the Nexus, except Barrett, to have the title over Sheamus (those are pretty much all the "new" people besides the Miz they could push into the main event btw). None of them would be able to speak and make you believe they were Championship material. I mean there's a reason Jeff Hardy was suited better to be a champion on Smackdown than RAW.
Posted By: Guest#8919 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 05:53 PM
pac attack
Posted By: 2pac (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 06:14 PM
Anyone else think that Cody Rhodes is basically doing a Patrick Bateman impression?
Posted By: patronsaint21 (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 04:54 PM
But Matt Striker would have us believe that's Vance Archer's gimmick.
Posted By: Risk Astor (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 06:48 PM
Holy shit, I had to stop reading after Erik's comments regarding the Nexus not making sense. Does that boy even follow WWE at all? Early in their promo time they explained why they were all teaming up and why whoever won didn't matter, and then after Danielson's release, they immediately explained it. I'm not normally won to rip on writers, but this cat needs to get his shit straight.
Posted By: G-Walla (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 06:59 PM
"The IWC complains about not pushing young talent. WWE just pushed SEVEN at once and people complain?"
WWE just pushed 7 young guys. Only 2 of them count as "talent".
Posted By: HeartBurnKid (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 07:29 PM
Wow is Luers ever terrible.
Posted By: Greg (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:25 PM
@ Gregson: People have been calling for months for TNA to change the Global Titlen to a TV title. Now, you want to dump on people for praising a decision they'd already been wanting? Go watch some more WWE, boy, and try not to be quite so stupid when commenting on something you don't watch.
Posted By: the ghost of Gordon Solie (Guest) on July 29, 2010 at 08:43 PM
Bingo on the NEXUS, Erik Luers. Why the F**k would we care about them.
P.S. Wade lifting Henry was terrible.
Posted By: piyush (Guest) on July 31, 2010 at 06:54 AM
the only thing terrible about Wade Barrett lifting mark henry is that mark henry is incapable of letting go of a rope.
don't blame Barrett for henry's own fuck up just because you are to mentally addled to 'get' the Nexus angle.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Guest) on July 31, 2010 at 05:23 PM
Nexus does need more members. This is what ruined the nWo. The Great Khali doesn't need Nexus. What he needs is a manager or at the very least a charismatic tag team partner to do the heavy lifting on promos. What Nexus needs is they need a big win to cement themselves as a serious threat. They need to defeat a champion for a belt not just pull random beatdowns.
Posted By: Guest#7114 (Guest) on August 01, 2010 at 05:57 PM
>> What will be really offensive is when they start going around back-alleys looking for prostitutes to hire.
You are Candice Michelle! Wait a minute, this isn't Ask 411's 'Who Am I?'
Posted By: "Evil" Earl Enos, Septuplet #5 (Guest) on August 02, 2010 at 11:02 PM
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