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Your Regular R's will continue as normal, but first…a word on a very special occasion by the inestimable Larry Csonka. I was going to write something myself, but I don't think I could top what Larry says here, so I simply sit back in awe of the original and true Master of the R's once again.

~And So We Hit 500~

And so this is the 500th edition of the "Wrestling R's" here on 411Mania. To say that the column hitting 500 is a surprise would be correct. You see, before I came to 411, I wrote for a little place called "TWTF," and the proprietors of that site were Lino and Trent (aka the Penguin). I started doing TNA recaps there in LATE 2003, and as 2004 began I started venturing into columns. I felt that I needed a hook to review the shows, and along with my wife, we came up with the R's concept. The initial editions of the R's are HORRENDOUS to say the least. I hadn't found my voice, I relied on clichés and well, they sucked. But they eventually became a good read, and something I enjoyed.

On May 26th 2004 I joined the 411 family, recapping TNA, and the R's went on hiatus. But in August of 2004, when the GRAND EXODUS HAPPENED here at 411, I became wrestling editor. Ashish said, "write whatever," and so the 3R's of Wrestling came to 411. It started with me, and when I lost Smackdown Nick Marsico joined the family. When he left the column, longtime friend Geoff Eubanks took over the SD coverage. The R's were a weekly labor of love, and eventually PPV editions came, special editions, the R's of the WrestleManias and so on and so forth.

When I took over administrative duties here at 411, Jeremy Thomas who had been helping with the column when Geoff left took over the mantle, and along with Michael Bauer, Aaron Hubbard, Steve Cook, Daniel Wilcox and Chad Nevett have carried on the column. But then, in the tradition of 411, when a concept takes off it migrates. My baby that started back in 2003 is started running wild in Movies, Music, MMA and Games, and like a proud father, I sat back with a big grin on my face.

Today's edition of the R's is the 500th edition in wrestling, and I sit behind my computer proud of that fact. It would never have happened without you, the loyal 411 family. We may not always agree, but you always clicked and shared your opinion, and YOU made this column the success it has become. And for that, I humbly thank you.

Sincerely,

Larry Csonka

In HD where available…

By: Aaron Hubbard

ROH on HDNet 08.09.10:

QUICK RESULTS:
Rhett Titus def. Jerry Lynn [**1/2]
El Generico vs. Erick Stevens was thrown out [**3/4]
The House of Truth def. Mike Sydal & Aden Chambers [*]
ROH World Title #1 Contender's Match: Roderick Strong def. Davey Richards [***3/4]

THE RIGHT:

STRONG VS. RICHARDS: This is the second time these two have battled on television this year, and I enjoyed this considerably more than their first outing, which never seemed to kick into third gear. This one was a bit tedious in the early going but did not stop getting better down the stretch. Richards is awesome, Strong is awesome, the match was excellent, but I really hope they get a chance to outdo themselves before Davey's probable retirement. Also of note is that Richards continued to show disdain for Shane Hagadorn's involvement in his matches, a theme carried over from Death Before Dishonor's main event with Tyler Black. This time, Davey pretty much cost himself the match by shoving Hagadorn down when he tried to help Davey. Obviously this is leading to the full face turn, which is fine but not needed since most ROH fans love him anyway. Good main event.

GENERICO VS. STEVENS: This turned out better than I expected. I'm probably one of the few remaining fans of Erick Stevens, and Generico is good. This wasn't a blow-away match by any measure, but it looked like they could easily approach show-stealing category if given the chance. The interference from Kevin Steen and Steve Corino was expected and fine. I've personally been enjoying the feud every step of the way and have no problem with it continuing, so long as the promos and matches continue to live up to the standard they've been setting.

CORINO & STEEN ON CHAINS: Oh, I loved this. This was a great money promo, with Corino and Steen both using the chain as a metaphor in different ways. Corino used it to symbolize the bond he has with Steen that makes them strong, while Steen used it to explain how his career was chained to El Generico. This was all building up to the double-chain match at Glory By Honor IX, which is shaping up to be another tremendous Internet PPV.

HOUSE OF TRUTH SQUASH: This wasn't a particularly good match, and clearly the natural grace of Evan Bourne does not run in the family, as Mike Sydal did nothing to impress me here. The reason this is in the right is that it gave Josh Raymond and Christian Able a platform to show off their talents and get some momentum. I've enjoyed their work thus far in ROH and think they have a lot to offer in the tag team division, so anything that gets them something of a push is good in my book.

PURGATORY:

TITUS VS. LYNN: This was the usual solid opener I've come to expect from this show. Lynn doesn't quite look as good as he did last year, but Titus is quickly becoming one of my favorite acts to watch because of his improvement. His dropkick is one of the most perfectly executed moves in all of wrestling today. I was not a big fan of the finish, as I feel that Titus is in sore need of a win over an established talent to boost his singles credibility, and Lynn wouldn't have lost anything from Aries blowing smoke in his eyes and Rhett hitting a finisher to defeat him. This felt a little counter-productive to me, but was entertaining for what it was.

THE WRONG:

NOTHING OF NOTE.

THE RIDICULOUS:

NOTHING OF NOTE.

The 411

Hey, what do you know, I actually enjoyed everything that was on the show this week! Richards vs. Strong was another solid TV main event, not quite as good as last week's match between Tyler Black and Christopher Daniels, but it was supported by a stronger undercard and one tremendous promo from Misters Wrestling Steen and Corino. A very, very solid hour of wrestling programming this week.

SHOW RATING: 8.0

By: Chad Nevett

iMpact! 08.19.10:

QUICK RESULTS
- Jeff Hardy defeated Rob Terry in the first round of the TNA World Heavyweight Championship Tournament [*]
- Mr. Anderson defeated Jay Lethal in the first round of the TNA World Heavyweight Championship Tournament [*3/4]
- Angelina Love (C) defeated Madison Rayne for the TNA Knockouts Championship [1/2*]
- Kurt Angle defeated Douglas Williams in the first round of the TNA World Heavyweight Championship Tournament [**1/4]
- The Pope defeated Matt Morgan in the first round of the TNA World Heavyweight Championship Tournament [**]
- AJ Styles defeated Tommy Dreamer [*]

THE RIGHT:

TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT FIRST ROUND MATCH - KURT ANGLE vs. DOUGLAS WILLIAMS: Prior to this match, there was a little backstage bit with Angle discussing his history participating in tournaments and how that gives him the edge. The pairing of him and Douglas Williams was a smart one, since their styles complement one another quite well. They didn't get a lot of time, but Angle is one of the best at packing short matches with as much as he possibly can to make the best use of his time. Williams got a good amount of offense and looked good against Angle, but there was no doubt who was winning this match. With every match a ‘win-or-retire' match for Angle right now, he's the easy favorite to win the tournament and the title. And that's just fine with me since Angle's matches are always good and worth watching even if the conclusion is foregone.

TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT FIRST ROUND MATCH - THE POPE vs. MATT MORGAN: The final match of the tournament's first round had somewhat obvious participants, but that's a good thing since out of the possible guys to take these last two spots, the Pope and Matt Morgan were the ones that fit best. This match was surprisingly entertaining with Matt Morgan playing the dominant, cocky heel better than ever before. He's really developing that element of his performance in the ring, not just in promos, and that really elevates his matches. His strong character helps hide some of his shortcomings and limited moveset in the ring, and makes him look better than he actually is. He tossed the Pope around like a rag doll and took every chance to preen and pose for the audience. He taunted the Pope, disrespected him, and lost the match by not going for the win when he had the chance. While four faces in the semi-finals is an interesting idea, part of me was hoping for Morgan to make it through as the only heel. But, after his dominance over the Pope, him going over would have buried the Pope, so it was the right call.

PURGATORY:

TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT FIRST ROUND MATCH - MR. ANDERSON vs. JAY LETHAL: This looked like it could be a decent match without an obvious finish. Either of these men would benefit from advancing in the tournament. Anderson has been pushed consistently despite not actually winning matches, while Lethal has been almost unstoppable (aside from Flair cheating). They put on a decent show for the time given. Both men looked like they had a chance throughout and worked together well. There was nothing that really stood out as amazing, but nothing that stood out as bad. Anderson going over was probably for the best since he needs to look like a contender, while Lethal has time to build himself still.

MOTOR CITY MACHINE GUNS VIDEO: While I would have preferred a regular promo instead of a breathless, murky Reaction video package, this was still good. It put over the Guns as a big deal, used some great clips, and gave them a week off to recover a bit after their series of matches with Beer Money. Better this than nothing at all.

THE WRONG:

ABYSS AND JEFF HARDY BRAWL BEFORE THE SHOW: The show began with the extremely long and dull showing of Abyss and Jeff Hardy brawling throughout the Impact Zone before the show actually began. I wouldn't have hated this if they'd cut it down to a few clips, but it kept going on and on and on and on. It wasn't innovative or engrossing. It was kind of funny to see Hardy's ass blurred from time to time. Listening to Mike Tenay and Taz act ‘real' by discussing their monitors and mics seems good in theory, but failed miserably on execution. I applaud trying something different, but a traditional series of 10-15-second clips giving us the highlights would have did the job.

ERIC BISCHOFF VACATES THE WORLD BELT: Easy E came out to address Rob Van Dam's injuries and the TNA World Heavyweight Championship. He oversold RVD's injuries (about as much as the shot at the end of Impact did last week) to the point where his offer of allowing RVD to return to the ring whenever he wants sound ludicrous. The picture he painted was of a man so broken and destroyed that his return to the ring within two years seems impossible unless he looks like Frankenstein's monster. But, whatever. He then set up a tournament for the title that would involve the top eight contenders (sorry, numbers nine and ten... whoever you are) with the four quarter-final matches that night. Yes, another tournament in TNA. I love tournaments as much as the next guy, but this is the fifth tournament I've written about for the Rs and I've been doing this for less than a year. They could try something new from time to time. That Bischoff didn't tell us the top ten at the time also stood out. All in all, a sad, depressing promo full of obvious hyperbole that didn't do the job of selling the tournament, which it really should have done.

TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT FIRST ROUND MATCH - JEFF HARDY vs. ROB TERRY: Yes, Rob Terry makes the top eight despite losing the Global Championship and the rematch to AJ Styles. Somehow, that warrants moving up at least two spots in the rankings. Don't ask me how. This match was typical Big Rob fare with him no selling while his opponent tries to drag the match to quality. The Twist of Fate Hardy performed on him at the end was the worst Twist of Fate I've ever seen. Add in Rob lying down too far from the corner for Hardy to hit the Swanton Bomb properly and this was just bad. Hardy advances like we all knew he would and the match wasn't entertaining enough to warrant watching.

TNA KNOCKOUTS CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH - ANGELINA LOVE (C) vs. MADISON RAYNE: Last week, a commenter asked why the Knockouts keep winding up in the Wrong (though, go back four weeks and there's a Knockouts match that's not in the Wrong...) and it could be matches like this. It could be the continued use of the same performers in the same story. While some performers and stories have ups and downs in quality, I've found this story to be relatively consistent in bad matches and bad booking. I almost put this in Purgatory because they kept the actual match mercifully short, but the reunion of Angelina Love and Velvet Sky doesn't feel organic yet, while the continued teasing of Tara as Madison Rayne's biker enforcer is just sad. Everyone knows it's Tara, so prolonging the ‘surprise' decreases whatever impact it will have. The real mystery is why she's helping Rayne. Anyway, Sky stood ringside to back up Love and counter Tara. Love retained the belt and she and Sky seemed friendly enough in the ring, but were attacked after the match by Rayne and Tara. It continues...

FORTUNE ADDRESS THE IMPACT ZONE: Ric Flair began the Fortune segment by introducing the two newest members of the group: Douglas Williams and Matt Morgan. I do like that they're not limiting it to just four members since Williams and Morgan fit in well with the group. Flair then went on to trash EV2.0 for doing things that anyone can do, arguing that they can't wrestle. What Flair and Fortune do is wrestle, but anyone can use kendo sticks, tables, and garbage cans. That's freak show circus crap. He handed the mic over to AJ Styles and Styles was greeted with cheers from the fans. He bashed EV2.0 for not being able to just have their night and leave, that they had to stick around for that one more moment of glory and distract from those that really matter, like Fortune. After all, TNA is the house that AJ Styles built, and the crowd agrees. That prompted Dixie Carter to come out and acknowledge that AJ may have helped build the house, but she owns it. The EV2.0 guys came out looking like hell and Carter said that, because of last week, she's given them all TNA contracts (even the guys who had ones!). Dreamer took over and said how Flair is a living legend and would rush the ring, except Carter asked them to show restraint. Foley got on the mic and talked about a phone call with Flair in December that supposedly led to Flair coming to TNA and how it's the one thing he regrets, while Flair suggests they roll in the thumbtacks some more. Foley said he doesn't work for Flair, he works for Dixie Carter, while Flair said he works for Fortune. Dreamer ended things by saying he respected AJ until last week, so, later that night, it would be Styles versus Dreamer. I liked the beginning with Fortune, but the minute Carter came out, the whole thing went downhill as the crowd seemed to be with Styles and Fortune (or Styles at least). EV2.0 is meant to be the faces, but it's not working out that way. I wonder if that's planned or if TNA will adjust accordingly or if they'll press ahead, oblivious...

~~NASH & STING vs. JARRETT & HOGAN~~ IT'S FORTUNE AGAIN, MOTHERFUCKERS!: This segment nearly had me turn off my TV. Nash and Sting came out, and Nash said nothing of any value. Actually, I did like him demanding that anyone who wants his spot needs to take it from him, because no one can just tell him his time is over. Jeff Jarrett came out and said even less. He moved to go down and take on both Nash and Sting, but, then, Hulk Hogan came out to help him, taunting Sting into dropping the baseball bat. They hit the ring and the lights went out. When they came back up, Fortune was kicking the shit out of all four men and this segment moved from the Ridiculous into the Wrong. I love Fortune beating up the old guys, but I had to suffer through promos that made me want to turn off the TV — and I would have if I weren't reviewing the show here. So, if I were watching just for pleasure, I wouldn't have even seen the payoff. Not a good strategy: first, hit them with the awful bullshit and, then, just when they want to walk out, bring out the quality!

AJ STYLES vs. TOMMY DREAMER: Yes, AJ Styles isn't in the World Title Tournament. Yes, the TV Title wasn't on the line. Yes, this furthers the god-awful feud between Fortune and EV2.0 that should have ended last week with the old men broken and shattered under the might of wrestlers that can actually wrestle. Watching this match was brutal. Dreamer moved like an elderly woman, while Styles noticeably slowed down so Grandpa Hardcore could keep up. You see the reverse Irish whip near the beginning? Styles is moving at a speed that you expect and, suddenly, Dreamer is running and... he's running... he's running... he's running... he hits the ropes... he pauses... he turns around... he bounces off the ropes... he's running... he's running... he's running... They tried to work a match where Dreamer's experience was meant to give him the edge, but AJ Styles isn't some young rookie new to the business. He's one of the top performers in the world and, I'm sorry, but I'm not buying Dreamer outsmarting him in the ring. This should have been an ugly dissection of Dreamer that made women weep in horror and men shake their heads in pity at the terrible wrath of a pissed off AJ Styles, but, instead, it was an ugly, terrible match that ended in a clusterfuck finish that suggested that Styles needed outside interference and help to beat Dreamer. And, of course, Impact ends with a brawl. Again.

THE RIDICULOUS:

HULK HOGAN WANTS TO QUIT?: There was a short segment with Hogan on a cell phone, discussing how horrible Rob Van Dam's injuries are and how he's thinking of quitting over it. Man, fuck you, TNA... Do not tease Hogan leaving unless you're willing to pull the trigger. Otherwise, that's just cruel.

TOP TEN RANKINGS?: So, anyone know what the actual top ten rankings are? We know who are in the top eight, but what about their actual positioning? What about numbers nine and ten? The top ten rankings were introduced on the May 20 episode of Impact and, three months later, they've already crapped out on them. I shouldn't mind since they have no real place in logic. Mr. Anderson remained near the top despite rarely winning matches, while, in this group, Rob Terry somehow ranked higher than AJ Styles, a guy who beat him twice this past month and took the ~~Global~~ Television Title from him. (And, you know, if they announced the top ten officially on that Reaction show, I don't care. Call me when Reaction becomes a wrestling show instead of faux reality TV bullshit. I do love how the company that's called Total Non-Stop Action and positions itself as the ‘wrestling promotion' has the show that's just talking and no wrestling.)

The 411

There were at least three times during this show where I simply wanted to turn it off (and I would have were I not reviewing it here). I would say that any new fans that tuned into last week's Whole F'N Show must have been thrown by the piece of crap Impact this week, but considering the show was built around last week's god-awful finish, that probably isn't likely (plus, the ratings suggest that new viewers weren't exactly likely either). I enjoyed the World Title Tournament matches, but they were all pretty short. Another week where AJ Styles didn't defend his TV Title in a match... This episode was overbooked and booked poorly. If I could have, I would have created a new R for a lot of this show: Really Fucking Bad.

SHOW RATING: 3.0

By: Steve Cook

Superstars 08.12.10:

QUICK RESULTS:
Primo d. Yoshi Tatsu (**¼)
Vance Archer & MVP went to a no-contest
Curt Hawkins & Vance Archer d. MVP & JTG (**)
Jack Swagger d. Chris Masters (**)

THE RIGHT:

JACK SWAGGER vs. CHRIS MASTERS: Chris Masters is the ultimate example of how a bad first impression can relegate you to relative obscurity. He's been one of the more consistent workers in WWE this year, but you still hear people saying that he's no good. Why? I think a large reason is because when he debuted in WWE a few years back he was absolutely craptastic. Csonka harps on this in his Superstars recaps, and I think he too has fallen victim to the idea that once you suck you always suck. This is why you don't run wrestlers onto television until they're absolutely ready to make an impact. Maybe Jackie Gayda could have become a decent wrestler if she didn't have the worst match in Raw history when she had less business being in the ring than 18 year old me would have. Jack Swagger was ready when he made his debut on the ECW show, and he's never looked back…well, at least from a performance standpoint anyway. He's seemingly got other problems that I'd love to know more about, so I'd know why he wasn't on SummerSlam, is main eventing Superstars and has started feuding with MVP for the fifteenth time on SmackDown. This had the potential of being very good, but you just can't do a whole lot in five minutes. I loved the ankle lock finish though, so it belongs in this section.

PURGATORY:

PRIMO vs. YOSHI TATSU: Primo & Yoshi have good matches. They've had a lot of them. So why is this in Purgatory? I have no idea why they're wrestling each other over and over again. There seems to be no reason why they'd dislike each other. They're not in contention for any titles. I have no idea what Primo's goal is, and I don't know what Yoshi's aspirations are either. It's nice to have good matches, but without a reason, you're just wasting your time. And it's not like they're MOTYCs either, they're just good matches thrown out on Superstars. They're spinning their wheels here.

CURT HAWKINS & VANCE ARCHER vs. MVP & JTG: The booking with Teddy Long coming out and making a singles match into a tag team match was interesting, and it's nice to see that Teddy knows that this show exists. The right team went over, since Hawkins & Archer are actually a tag team. This goes into Purgatory because the in-ring action was just kinda there. It wasn't good, it wasn't bad., so I don't really know where I should put it.

THE WRONG:

Nothing of note.

THE RIDICULOUS:

Nothing of note.

The 411

Another place holding show for Superstars. Decent matches, but if you missed them it's not exactly the end of the world.

SHOW RATING: 6.0

By: Jeremy Thomas

WWE SmackDown 08.13.10

QUICK RESULTS:
Kofi Kingston def. Dolph Ziggler by DQ [** ¼]
Serena & Luke Gallows def. Kelly Kelly & The Big Show [* ¾]
Christian def. Drew McIntyre [** ½]
Alberto Del Rio def. Rey Mysterio [** ¾]

THE RIGHT:

REY, MEET ALBERTO: SmackDown kicked off with Rey Rey coming down to the ring, much to the crowd's pleasure. He did some pointing to the crowd on his way down to the ring and climbed in with a mic to talk about SummerSlam and Kane. Rey Rey thanked everyone for helping him through SummerSlam and such. He said that he may not have won, but he didn't end up in the casket and said Kane had just been looking for a way to mask his own guilt. Rey had the crowd interested, and then out of nowhere…

Yes, it's the long-awaited debut of Alberto del Rio! Long-awaited mostly because that means the vignettes have stopped, but whichever works. He came down to the ring, interrupting Rey with no thought to it until he hit the ring, upon which he said it was an honor to stand in the ring with Rey Rey. Alberto said that his bloodline came from kings while Rey's came from the horrible streets of Tijuana. I will certainly admit that Alberto did a great job here of trashing Rey with glee and arrogance. Rey Rey turned it around nicely and said he'd seen people like Del Rio a thousand times and that he didn't deserve respect for the way he dresses. Things turned ugly and this led into a match tonight. I have to say, I've crapped on the vignettes and I have no regrets for doing so, but now that he's come to deliver he started off very well here.

CHRISTIAN vs. DREW McINTYRE: So, this was a rematch from a few weeks ago, and was one I was looking forward to. Cody Rhodes came down to sit at commentary and he did a very good job there talking trash about Christian while Christian and Drew had a very solid, surprisingly intense match for TV. I think that they focused too the camera a wee too much on the announcer's booth instead of the match, but that's a minor flaw and it didn't go too overboard. Drew continues to impress as he looked very much like he belonged in there against Christian and with a good amount of time, they put on a very good TV match. Christian got the win which was done in a way that didn't hurt Drew much at all, and the post-match assault on both Christian and Matt by the heels did some nice work in building them up. I'm interested to see where this goes, and I haven't yet been disappointed by these four since they started wrestling each other.

ALBERTO DEL RIO vs. REY MYSTERIO: So, this was pretty damned awesome. Del Rio has the JBL entrance with his own car…he even has his own damned ring announcer in Ricardo Rodriguez. It's over the top and I love it. Del Rio's little grin says a lot about his character and again, he gets a lot of credit from me for doing some good character work here. He also did some damn good wrestling work too. See, this is what I was talking about when I complained about the vignettes. We needed a reason to care about him in a pro wrestling context, and tonight that's exactly what he did. So we had weeks of vignettes why? Anyway, enough of that. Del Rio didn't put on a five-star match with Rey or anything, but he showed very clearly that he has no problem working the WWE style and stay in character while doing so. For some guys, that's harder than it sounds to do both. Obviously Rey had a good amount of offense, but this was far from a fluke win by Alberto; he looked very good here and he got a legitimate win against a WWE main eventer in his debut match. I'm sure I'm missing someone, but I can't remember the last time that happened. And more to the point, he made Rey tap. That's freaking huge. It's clear that the WWE expects very good things out of Alberto, and now so do I. Great freaking debut.

PURGATORY:

KOFI KINGSTON vs. DOLPH ZIGGLER: This was Kofi's rematch for the Intercontinental Championship since they had that FUBAR of a finish at SummerSlam. Now, these guys have been working well together for a while now, so I had some very solid hopes for this match. Did this deliver? Not quite as much as I think they could have on a stage like SummerSlam given the proper amount of time, but for a TV match it was perfectly fine. They played the story as they have for the past few weeks, with Kofi battling both Dolph and to a lesser degree, Vickie being her annoying, stick-her-nose-in self on the outside. Vickie factored into the ending and cost Kofi the title by giving him a DQ, and Kofi nearly lost it on Vickie post-march. I think the DQ ending hurt things just a touch, but that's fine in that it ended the opposite way Dolph's win did; Dolph ended up looking strong post-match and that's enough for me to forgive the finish. Not a great or even a particularly good opening match, but it accomplished what it needed to. What they could have done with more, though.

LUKE GALLOWS & SERENA vs. THE BIG SHOW & KELLY KELLY KELLY: This match was set by a segment beforehand, where Joey and Luke were complaining about Punk leaving them at SummerSlam and Serena saying that they were going to earn Punk's admiration by facing off against Kelly and Show. Punk came in, put them all down and said that if Luke and Serena lost they were out of the Society. I have to say that Serena was more wooden than usual here and that hurt the segment, but overall I liked this because it's advancing the storyline of the SES.

As for the match, I have to admit that I was looking forward to seeing what Serena would finally do in the ring after all her FCW development time and no wrestling since. And she did impress. While Show and Gallows had a little short amount of offense in there, it quickly transitioned to Triple K and Serena. Serena looked good, at least compared to what we usually see from Diva matches and Kelly was less bad than we usually see from here. Things turned chaotic and then Serena hit the fireman's carry gutbuster. I love that Serena's finisher is close in style to Punk's G2S. This was an encouraging match, but too short for me to really give a Thumbs Up to. We'll see how things go from here.

BROTHER KANE EXPLAINS IT ALL (AGAIN): So, let's start off with one thing I hated about this. We came back from commercial right into this segment and frankly, it was more than a bit jarring. Especially with the tacky demon-voice effects to the laugh. It didn't start it off well, but Kane had a great speech that recovered well. He gave a talk about the Seven Deadly Sins, Pride and how it allowed Taker to weaken and Kane to put him down and then drop him on his head at SummerSlam. Kane was speaking directly to Taker as he gave him a tale about how it started. This went through the entire history of the Kane feud and while again the flashbacks bugged me, I'm starting to get vaguely used to them. Kane talked about his master plan that had stretched over years, allowing Taker to win for years and years and how the loss of his mask created the monster he needed to be. Et cetera, et cetera. I will give them credit for some creative retcon work, but it lacks a bit of credibility. "I decided to get my revenge…by letting you win for years!" Um, okay. Also, ripping on Pulp Fiction (and yes, the Bible) with the Great Vengeance and Furious Anger line was tacky. No one does cheesy as well as Kane, but he only had limited success here. Not one of my favorites of his.

JACK SWAGGER = MATT HARDY?: Actually, I think that's an apt equation. Jack's become sort of a solid upper-midcarder who can put over the lower-card guys these days. The only difference between the two is Swagger's actually been World Champion. Anyway, Swagger was complaining to Rosa about how he'd been robbed out of being at SummerSlam and robbed by MVP last week. Unfortunately, Rosa was joking in place and listening to her iPod. So instead Swagger got to come face-to-face with MVP. They had a little back and forth sniping where they made fun of each other and MVP even put Swagger over a bit. Swagger invited MVP to the Jack Swagger Senior Invitational, which was an "old school shootout." If they're playing with BB Guns, I mark. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if this turns into a Matt vs. MVP "one-up the other" situation, which at least gives them something to do but will waste our time. Remember Matt vs. MVP, eating contest? Yeah, wastes of time.

THE WRONG:

DIVA PLANS AND HIDDEN LEPRECHAUNS: Backstage early, Layla and Michelle were laughing about what they did to Melina at SummerSlam. Layla noted that that Teddy Long was planning on punishing them, though. There was some reference to a plan they had that was super-secret and that Teddy couldn't know, and they wandered off—only for us to see that Hornswoggle was dressed as a plant. Okay, that was weird. Obviously they have a plan here and that's fine, but anything involving Hornswoggle has me worried from the get-go. I'm giving this a tentative wRong for now because of the many ways I can see this going wrong and the very few ways it could work.

THE RIDICULOUS:

DID YOU KNOW?: Nope. And, as always, I don't care.

The 411

This was exactly what I was hoping for out of SmackDown coming out of SummerSlam. They got dealt a serious short end of the stick and when that happens, the Blue Brand usually seems to get some fire and comes back with a vengeance. Alberto Del Rio's debut was handled perfectly, the match and continuing angle with Cody, Drew, Christian and Matt was good and we had a lot of storyline advancement even if a couple matches suffered. I can't complain much about this one at all and am interested to see where things go from here.

SHOW RATING: 7.5

Until Friday, keep on kickin' it!

…and remember to stay grounded!

~500~

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1. MCMG's once again mean jackshit.

2. Flair isn't entertaining. He is sad.

3. Angle's journey storyline is now fucked up/wasted, as expected.

4. iMPACT=pointless brawls

Posted By: Points (Guest) on August 22, 2010 at 11:09 PM

All four faces advance in TNA's tourney? Angle will retire, if he loses a match? The guys featured are all former WWE names? Yep, this is TNA!

Posted By: Max (Guest) on August 22, 2010 at 11:10 PM

the top ten ranking was always a failure. not breaking news.

aj's tv title means nothing now. never defends it, thus still pointless belt.

jeff hardy is just so brutal to watch, since he has come to tna. that brawl with abyss was just heartwrenching to watch, thinking about jeffs 2009.

Posted By: Guest#5041 (Guest) on August 22, 2010 at 11:13 PM

smackdown was great, as usual. i really hope the move to cable gets that show some respect around here. kane is doing 'career work' nowadays.

Posted By: Guest#1684 (Guest) on August 22, 2010 at 11:15 PM

Congrats on calling Kane being the attacker from the beginning, but he has fought Undertaker TWO TIMES in the past decade, so why the hell not again?

Posted By: Vic (Guest) on August 22, 2010 at 11:17 PM

So Angle how's that run through all top 10 ranks going for you?

Posted By: Guest#6877 (Guest) on August 22, 2010 at 11:34 PM

Del Rio is awesome. And he killed the pussy Mysterio. Mysterio is old news and old five year olds like to watch the "Little Bitch".

By the way everyone I found a link to a screen cap of the Del Rio botch on wwe.com:

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4411/vczae8.png

Damn right he's gonna be a big deal. The biggest debut of a new star since the Rock.

Posted By: Guest#1776 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:58 AM

Jeremy: Nice backtracking on Albert Del Rio. Just man up and admit you were wrong. WRONG! WRONG! WROOOONNGGG!

Posted By: 99% of the internet (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:35 AM

impact:5
superstars:6
smackdown:7

Posted By: Guest#0383 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:35 AM

AJ never promised to defend TV title. Just think about it. Only Face can say that anyway. And AJ never said that.

Posted By: Guest#1438 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:39 AM

Wow. That Impact was pretty weak, except for two matches and Fortune beating down Hogan, Jarrett, Nash and Sting, which was anything BUT wrong.

I know its different writers, but its kinda strange to see the Erick Stevens vs. El Generico match which was a throwaway match due to the finish get a higher star rating than Angle vs. Williams.

Posted By: No (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:40 AM

4.5 for impact

Posted By: Guest#7090 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:41 AM

FORTUNE FTW!

Posted By: Bill (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:50 AM

impact was awesome. thats all

Posted By: Guest#5050 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:53 AM

Also, ripping on Pulp Fiction (and yes, the Bible) with the Great Vengeance and Furious Anger line was tacky.
*****

Actually, just Pulp Fiction. They took poetic license with a verse and made it sound much more epic than it actually is.

King of like, "Frankly, Miss Scarlet, I don't give a damn," which is a famous line that never actually happened.

Posted By: Fire Lord Hubbard (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 02:17 AM

Congrats on calling Kane being the attacker from the beginning, but he has fought Undertaker TWO TIMES in the past decade, so why the hell not again?

Posted By: Vic (Guest) on August 22, 2010 at 11:17 PM+

because the two times he fought the undertaker in the last decade mean nothing compared to the extensive feuds that they had in the three or so years before that.

you see, the only periods in wrestling history to the IWC are the Attitude Era and the PG era. all things before Attitude only count when someone dies and then it is all 'You were great, you were awesome, i grew up watching you', and all things PG apparently suck.

Undertaker and Kane fueded extensively during Attitude, and to the whiny bitch contingent of the IWC, that only happened yesterday.

you see, to this sad, pathetic fraction of the IWC, time is so relative around here that it is its own mother and son.

to them, Taker and Kane have been battling each other on every WWE show, PPV included, in the longest string of matches ever conceived.

I am sure some of the mouthbreathers juts assume that Kane and Taker are fighting each other right now, on a street somewhere, taking only momentary pauses to evacuate their bowels on a homeless man or baby.

because they are both evil creations from the evil depths of evil hell.

Posted By: It's still really real to them (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 02:21 AM

Wrestling purist reviewing impact? Not correct.

Posted By: Jack (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 02:22 AM

4. iMPACT=pointless brawls

Posted By: Points (Guest) on August 22, 2010 at 11:09 PM

LMFAO at this comment, especially given the WWE crap that has been going on lately where they don't really even have matches anymore, just brawls. And, yes, pointless ones at that.

Posted By: Michael (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 02:42 AM

Kanes promo was AWESOME..how can u put it in Purgatory? He made one of the oldest fueds in wwe history feel fresh and new. Kane feels like a true main eventer now with clean wins over Kofi (yes..I know he's a midcarder, but upper) and Rey..the damage done from undertakers vegetative state could keep Kane having the upperhand for months in this fued (hopefully with a few CLEAN wins over Taker) Let Kane have his moment..this Promo was delivered VERY WELL!

Posted By: KoryMcStunna (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 02:42 AM

You know, ROH has some great f'n talent. I think any company in the WORLD would want wrestlers as great as Davey Richards or Roderick Strong. These two guys are at the top of a very short list of wrestlers who can still get it done in the ring. Of course Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan is also on that list, as is Austin Aries and Tyler Black. Weird, huh, that some of the best wrestlers in the world come from ROH, and none of the fucking WWE and TNA marks give them any credit.

Posted By: Michael (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 02:44 AM

Ah, you're crazy man. That Kane promo was absolute gold. Whatever, difference of opinions i guess.

And in what universe can you claim that Kane has fought the Undertaker twice in one decade, Vic?

Posted By: the danger stranger (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 03:04 AM

I just didn't buy Del Rio beating Rey like that. Congrats on #500!

Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 05:51 AM

Can yall do more analysis under each segment and less recap. I've already 1) watched Smackdown, 2) read the recap. It guess kind of boring to read a paraphrase of a promo, match, or storyline that I saw, again.

Posted By: leno (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 07:27 AM

If Alberto Del Rio had showed up with no vignettes the exact same way as he did people would be shitting on it, putting some unknown (to the American audience) over a main eventer who last month was champion, cleanly! It would have been madness.

The vignettes did their job perfectly, because everyone watching now knew who Alberto was, that he was a heel and that he was a rich, elite, snob. So when he came out, it wasn't an unknown jobber, it was a guy who might be able to hang with Rey and then that elevated allowing him to beat him. It was great work by all involved.

Jeremy Thomas, you're R's for Smackdown are always the worst each week. From your pointless shitting on the vignettes (which as I've pointed out worked perfectly and elevated Alberto Del Rio something you said they wouldn't) to putting something in the wRong section for what might happen in the future. Please use this amazing crystal ball to send me on next weeks lottery numbers and I'll split it 60/40. As for MVP/Matt being a waste of time, that feud was a great, fun one, the oneupsmanship and the buddy actions of MVP while he was trying to distract Matt from taking his US title were funny, entertaining and produced good matches. Not really a waste of time...

The Kane promo was brilliant, don't know why you shit on the effects. Just because something is different doesn't mean its bad, yes it was a huge retcon but it did well. And Kane didn't get revenge by having Taker win, Taker would have won anyway, Kane helped feed his ego, build his pride, and pride comes before a fall. My only real problem was the claim Taker unmasked Kane... While technically he did, we never saw Kane's face and his real unmasking was much later (due to HHH).

And Serena looked jut as bad as any other diva out there, maybe it was Kelly Kelly's fault but she was god awful.

So yeah, you missed the mark on pretty much everything. The other three were good reads though

One thing, Chad Nevett, you said three months to crap on the rankings, literally it was done after a couple of weeks. From the Doug Williams debacle, to the triple threat top three to the strange placings of people who are losing... Even this tournament is another knife into it, why have a top eight when being number one is the same advantage of being number eight. One vs. Two should be the title match...

Posted By: loughie21 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 08:07 AM

Angelina Love is the most disgustingly thin woman I think I have ever seen

Posted By: Guest#6094 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 08:09 AM

The "Great Vengeance and Furious Anger" line was used to copy what Taker had said to Kane way back in '98 before their WrestleMania match. Yes, it's from Pulp Fiction, but there was a point to it for this specific feud as opposed to a random movie reference.

Posted By: Ryushinku (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 08:16 AM

How was that not a good promo by Kane? At least it didn't end with the cliched "there's nothing you can do about it" line that Miz or Jericho end most of their promos with.

Posted By: Averoho (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 09:20 AM

I know this is random, but did you ever notice how there are no Asian wrestlers in WWE? Does Vince have something against Asians? I can only think of Ricky Steamboat and Taka... am I missing anyone?

Posted By: Guest#0255 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:51 AM

Funaki (and Kaientai), Tajiri, Kenzo Suzuki, Yoshi Tatsu, Último Dragón, Jinsei Shinzaki, Jimmy Wang Yang, Gail Kim... Does Mr. Fuji Count?

Posted By: Guest#2611 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 09:55 AM

AJ never promised to defend TV title. Just think about it. Only Face can say that anyway. And AJ never said that.

Posted By: Guest#1438 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:39 AM

This is what Styles said when he changed the title's name: "So, starting next week and every week after that on every TV and every pay-per-view, I will honor this title and it starts with you, Rob Terry." That sounds to me like he would be defending it every week, but I can understand that the word 'honor' could possibly lead to different interpretations.

Posted By: Sat & Chad Nevett (Registered) on August 23, 2010 at 10:58 AM

We needed a reason to care about him in a pro wrestling context, and tonight that's exactly what he did. So we had weeks of vignettes why? Anyway, enough of that.

Posted By: Jeremy Thomas

We had weeks of vignettes to establish his character in a strong way before debuting it. We would have been thinking, "who the hell is this guy--some Mexican JBL? And why is he making a main eventer tap?"

Instead, he has a well developed persona somewhere between the "Million Peso Man" and "The Demotivational Speaker." There's a lot more nuance to him already than just being wealthy and having a cocky smile, and they are already able to do playful things with his character like Rey's sarcastic wink.

Posted By: Joe Schmoe (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 11:14 AM

And more to the point, he made Rey tap. That's freaking huge. It's clear that the WWE expects very good things out of Alberto, and now so do I. Great freaking debut.

You COULD say...he's going to be a big deal, fairly quick.

Posted By: Ebo (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 11:35 AM

"I know this is random, but did you ever notice how there are no Asian wrestlers in WWE? Does Vince have something against Asians? I can only think of Ricky Steamboat and Taka... am I missing anyone?

Posted By: Guest#0255 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:51 AM"

Yoshi Tatsu is mentioned in the Superstars review. I assume by "Asian" you mean the silly ethnic connotation, not people from the Asian continent (Vladimir Kozlov) Yoshihiro Tajiri comes to mind. Killer Khan, Mr. Fuji, Pat Tanaka, Yokozuna (billed as being from Japan) off the top of my head. Inoki was inducted into the Hall of Fame this year.

As far as winning your first match against a main eventer, if you count Yoo-Manga as one, Santino beat him.

Carlito beat Cena in his first match, but Cena wasn't a main-eventer yet.

The Kane character beat Mankind upon debut.

Again, top 'o my head.

Posted By: Ryan W. (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:03 PM

I know this is random, but did you ever notice how there are no Asian wrestlers in WWE? Does Vince have something against Asians? I can only think of Ricky Steamboat and Taka... am I missing anyone?

Posted By: Guest#0255 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:51 AM

Yoshi Tatsu
Great Khali (India is in Asia)
Gail Kim (Even though she's Canadian)

Posted By: Guest#8179 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM

And so this is the 500th edition of the 4Rs. I have to say, I didn't expect I'd still be coming here bitching about everything under the comfort of anonymity, but alas, I don't have much of a life...

I lost my mom when I was 9. She said she couldn't take living with such a doucher so killed herself. Totally Russorific. I came on to this site soon after, back when columns weren't as well-produced, YouTube-heavy, and there wasn't a comments section. I have to admit, I could never have imagined how much 411 would change over such a short period.

Without a comments section, I was pretty optimistic about wrestling. These were the good ol' days of the mid-2000s, back before everything went PG and we were given comments sections to bitch about the business. I liked to hear about backstage stuff, and 411 was a great place to read it. But there was always something missing - endless bitching about the business.

So when the comments section arrived, my life changed. I was now able to bitch whenever I wanted. I'd read other people's bitch-rants and I'd make sure my opinions were aligned to the majority opinion of bitch-consensus: screw HHH, fuck Cena, Rey's over-rated, Michael Cole blows and most importantly, TNA sucks.

That one there provided me with endless days of bitching. It was the number two company - the loser. What did I want to do with a company that wasn't number one? Plus they had Russo, who fat guys on internet sites and disgruntled old-timers told me was the devil. They were just asking for my anonymous bitching.

Then came Hogan and Bischoff. My god, did I bitch! By this point, the battle between TNA vs WWE had been cemented by the influx of 12-year-olds bitching about the former in complete support of the latter - we must uphold the integrity of the Universe! We'd bitch and bitch, without even watching the show (we're not losers, y'know!), and our lives would seem complete.

Of course, we didn't want to look like we were pathetic losers who could be doing something better with our time, so we started to pretend to be TNA marks in full support of the company. I created like 12 guys myself just bitching about WWE, it was hilarious! I could now point to these people to justify my endless bitching about anything and everything TNA did!

And 411, you were there for me! It was almost like you knew exactly what I wanted. Every day we'd have an article specifically aimed at baiting us into bitching about TNA. I dropped out of school, I only pounded my meat about 4 times a day now, all to be able to anonymously bitch about a wrestling company so as to feel better about myself - I'm on the winning side, mom, screw you!

So as the 4R's reaches its 500th edition, all I can say is thanks. To 4Rs and to 411. Being a doucher is cool if you're anonymous!

Posted By: IWC Doucher #9138 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Dear guest 2055, what about Tajiri, yoshi tatsu, gail Kim, Mr. Fuji, jimmy Wang Yang, and yokozuna just off the top of my head. Not arguing with you, but you definitely missed a few.

Posted By: Guest#9702 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Damn right he's gonna be a big deal. The biggest debut of a new star since the Rock.

Posted By: Guest#1776 (Guest)

the Rocks debut was nothing, he was great later on. A debut that started huge was Carlito & we all see what happened there.

Posted By: Oily Nerd (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:47 PM

happy 500th for the R's

Posted By: guest (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:36 PM

Jeremy: Nice backtracking on Albert Del Rio. Just man up and admit you were wrong. WRONG! WRONG! WROOOONNGGG!

Posted By: 99% of the internet (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:35 AM

he wasn't wrong. the vignettes were shite. he admitted that they introduced Del Rio properly. that is probably the best you can get when talking about the WWE introducing a wrestler anymore.

Posted By: Guest#5299 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:49 PM

FORTUNE FTW!

Posted By: Bill (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:50 AM

it was better when it was Evolution in the WWE a few years ago.

Posted By: Guest#3888 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 01:51 PM

Congrats on 500, larry. Found this site in March and I haven't missed a column since, great work!

Posted By: Hercules Strongs (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 03:19 PM

the ranking system didnt work in the NWA and now now working for TNA come on!

Posted By: guest (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 03:35 PM

This place is so biased.

First, Kane delivers a damn good promo. Probably the best of the year, and it gets no sold. Had CM Punk, Jericho or even the Miz delivered, you would have creamed on your pants, and would have praised it "OMG PROMO OF THE DECADE"..

AJ Styles delivered a good promo. Granted he's never been good on the shtick.. but he did what he can and he had some good points. And it's in wrong section??

Brilliant and keep up your good work.

Can't wait for the RAW column when you are going to praise Danielson and Miz as the greatest things happened t0 wrestling since Savage/Steamboat.

Posted By: Mocky Raivia (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 12:17 AM

I was thinkin' the same thing. Kane has, uh...been on fire lately, and basically got a "meh", from the writer. And AJ Styles' promo was the first one i felt was legit, prety much ever. I actually bought into what he was saying instead of wantin' to laugh, or roll my eyes. I'll be waiting on Miz and Bryan too to see what he says next time.

Posted By: SS87 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 03:58 PM

This has been driving me nuts on all of the impact recaps. Nobody seems to mention that fortune never touched Hogan or Jarret during the beatdown. The lights went out and they were already on the ground when they came back on. Fortune beat on Nash and Sting and didn't do anything to Hogan and Jarret once the lights came back on. People always complain about TNA not being subtle and now when they do something subtle no one even notices. Sorry but this has seriously been driving me nuts.

Posted By: Boogieman (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 04:57 PM

Even though the love of the mediocre to terrible heels on Smackdown is becoming laughable I still love this column. The 4Rs are great, long may they continue.

Posted By: Guest#6165 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 05:02 PM

Weird, huh, that some of the best wrestlers in the world come from ROH, and none of the fucking WWE and TNA marks give them any credit.

Posted By: Michael (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 02:44 AM

Hey dummy, did you ever consider that people possibly just haven't SEEN ROH matches much, if at all? I'm a huge wrestling fan, but I've seen very few ROH matches (4), not because I don't like it, but because I haven't got around to watching many, nor do I read many of the reviews for this site on ROH. I don't order things off the net, and local stores don't have many (if at all) ROH dvds. I'm sure there are some phenomenal wrestling in dragon gate or all japan that you probably don't recognize. Getover it.

Posted By: SS87 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 06:24 PM

What's with all the love for Alberto del Rio? He was lost on the mic and then he was boring in the ring up until he hit the arm bar at which point he and the match threatened to become interesting at which point of course it was over. Total failure from beginning to end.

Posted By: Guest#3700 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 05:03 PM

You should have taken off your blindfold, took out your earplugs and turned your tv on.

Posted By: SS87 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 06:29 PM

I just wanna say, this was the funniest & most accurate review of TNA.

I mean, i am one of the biggest defender of TNA, & have been known to defend them on other websites. But lately TNA is pure shite.

Instead of getting rid of EV2.0 fast, they gave them contracts. WTF ??
Now we have to watch THESE OLD GUYS on TNA on WEEKLY BASIS.

I agree with Chad Nevett.
"MAN, FUCK YOU, TNA "

Posted By: piyush (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 06:31 PM

Okay this is just ridiculous:

"EV2.0 is meant to be the faces, but it's not working out that way. I wonder if that's planned or if TNA will adjust accordingly or if they'll press ahead, oblivious..."

So I guess you were complaining when they turned Hogan came to the WWE and was getting cheers during the NWO Rock angle when Rock was clearly being booked as the face.

I hear time and time again that TNA is promoting the old guys and now there is an angle where the young guys are in a main event stable that wants to eradicate the old guys. The fact that there is complaints that they beat up Nash and Sting just proves no matter what TNA does they can never be right.

Bischoff runs his mouth way too much but this is the kind of logic that makes me agree with him.

I think it's time to just play along with the stupidity and complain that until WWE pulls 6's they're just another crap wrestling company.

Great logic right?

Posted By: Doughboy (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 06:49 PM

Actually Serena calls the gut buster, her finisher, the OTP (Ode to Punk).

Posted By: mastamynd09 (Guest) on August 23, 2010 at 09:27 PM

While Impact wasn't a good show, I didn't think it was 3.0 bad.

Of course to be fair, there are a lot of shit that bothers most of the IWC that I don't think is as bad as they make it seem.

I stand behind the fact that if Flair stays on the mic. I have no problem with him as the head of Fortune. Yes he and Lethal had a hell of a match, but I have no interest in Flair wrestling.

Fortune is a fucking dream team for TNA fans. Which is why I think they should win in the end.

Posted By: Guest#7821 (Guest) on August 24, 2010 at 01:50 PM

Anybody notice the physical changes in Jeff Hardy lately? Not only does he look to be bulked up, but man, during and right after his match with Rob Terry, looking directly at him, I really believe Hardy was spaced out on something. He just didn't seem right, and even his movements were off. If you pause the video at where the referee is raising Hardy's arm after the victory over Terry, he just looks messed. Just an observation.

Posted By: Devin (Guest) on August 25, 2010 at 08:45 AM