411s Wrestler of the Week 03.21.11: Week 51
Posted by Larry Csonka on 03.21.2011
The Miz takes out John Cena again, Eddie Edwards wins the ROH World Title, MVP finds success in Japan and more! Check out 411's Wrestler of the Week for all the details and for an updated look at the Year-End standings!
Welcome to Week 51, Year SIX, of 411's Wrestler of the Week. A quick overview of the rules to kick things off for us as a reminder
Each writer chooses FIVE wrestlers from any promotion and each wrestler gets a point total attached to that ranking. It looks a little like this
Then we tally up the votes and the official 411 Wrestler of the Week is crowned. But wait, there's more! Each week the top SIX vote getters get a points value for their ranking which looks something like this
1st - 15
2nd - 12
3rd - 9
4th - 6
5th - 3
6th - 1
...and they go towards the 411 Wrestler of the Year award to be announced each year around WrestleMania. This will be posted every Monday. Let's see who wins this week
Larry Csonka
1) Eddie Edwards
Eddie Edwards won the ROH World Title on Saturday night in what was a surprise title change. Edwards now has the distinction of winning the ROH Tag, Pure, TV and World Titles.
2) Christian: Christian defeated Alberto Del Rio in a cage match on Smackdown. Could it be a big enough win to get him into the world title match at WrestleMania?
3) Sheamus: Sheamus defeated Daniel Bryan in a very good TV match to win the US Title.
4) Extreme Tiger
5) The Kings of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castignoli)
Michael Bauer
1) Eddie Edwards
No doubt about it. Biggest win of Edwards' career and one of the best I have seen live in some time. The win was a surprise, but the Manhattan Center exploded for the victory.
2) Sheamus: He is the new United States Champ and looked pretty good in doing so.
3) MVP: Gotta give props for making the IWGP champ submit.
4) Roderick Strong
5) Christian
Michael Ornelas
1) Eddie Edwards
Uhh...DUH! The man won the Ring of Honor World Championship in a huge surprise (but not necessarily an upset) this weekend at Manhattan Mayhem IV. It was also his first shot at the belt. It'll be interesting if this evolves into a lengthy feud with Davey Richards. I cannot WAIT to see this show when it comes out on DVD, and Eddie's win is no doubt the highlight.
2) MVP: Tapped Hiroshi Tanahashi out. Any time you beat New Japan's IWGP champion, you're doing well. As the "big foreign star", MVP is doing really well overseas. Hopefully we'll see his game stepped up enough to get another look from WWE in the future and given a serious push.
3) Sheamus: Dethroned former United States Champion Daniel Bryan in a title vs. career match on Monday. Great bout, too. I'm looking forward to a future encounter between the two.
4) Christian/Kings of Wrestling (tie)
5) Yuji Nagata
FRANCISCO RAMIREZ
1) Extreme Tiger
Rey de Reyes came and went and the biggest upset that night was Extreme Tiger winning the final to become the 2011 Rey de Reyes. El Tigre De TJ went through big names like el Mesias, L.A. ParK and Carlito. The former AAA Cruiserweight Champion had the biggest win of his career on that night.
2) Eddie Edwards: Beat Roderick Strong to become the new ROH Champion. What can I say, I always figured it be the other member of the American Wolves to achieve this, Edwards came through and we have ourselves a new champ.
3) Texano Jr. and Terrible: Ended their feud with Maximo and Brazo de Plata by beating them in a Hair VS. Hair match. Both Texano Jr. and Terrible have not lost a Hair VS. Hair match to this day.
4) Sheamus
5) Zorro
Ryan Byers
1) MVP
This week, in a tag team match, MVP tapped out Hiroshi Tanahashi, the holder of the most prestigious world title outside of WWE. This clearly establishes Porter as a force to be reckoned with in New Japan Pro Wrestling and probably sets him up for a title shot within the next several months.
2) Extreme Tiger: I don't follow lucha libre as closely as I should, but I know enough about it to know that AAA's Rey de Reyes tournament is a big deal. This week, Tiger won that tournament, which, as I understand it, is far and away the biggest victory of his career.
3) Sheamus: Nobody looked better than Sheamus in WWE this week. (Some may argue that Miz did until you look at the fact that his main event segment this week lost large numbers of viewers, unheard of for a Raw overrun.) The King of the Ring had the best television match of the week, and he is now your new United States Champion.
4) Yuji Nagata
5) Heavy Metal
Chad Nevett
1) Eddie Edwards
Won the ROH World Heavyweight Championship.
2) King Sheamus: Beat Daniel Bryan to become the new United States Champion as well as beat the Intercontinental Champion Kofi Kingston.
3) MVP: Made the holder of the IWGP championship submit.
4) The Miz
5) Gunner
James Cooke
1) The Miz
Made The Great Khali bleed and wore the best bald-wig ever! Oh, and he owned Cena yet again... AWESOME!
2) Sheamus: Ended the 'King of the Ring Curse' by beating Daniel Bryan for the United States title in a terrific match, and then went to Smackdown where he defeated the current Intercontinental Champion Kofi Kingston.
3) Christian: Defeated the number one contender to the World Heavyweight Championship in a steel cage match. Looks like Captain Charisma could be edgeing his way into the World title match at 'Mania.
4) Eddie Edwards
5) The Corre
Jeremy Thomas
1) Eddie Edwards
The new ROH World Champion takes the belt in a surprise win out of nowhere. It's a huge win, a major feather in Eddie's cap and a big statement for his future. No one else had any level of career advancement.
2) Bully Ray: Am I insane? No, not at all. Last week Bully was stuck in his never-ending feud with Devon. This week (possibly due to Jeff Hardy being a douche, but whatever) he was fighting in a #1 contender's match for the World Title, looked like he could hang with the main eventers during the match and destroyed AJ Styles to end the show. That's quite the confidence step for his singles push.
3) Sheamus: Beat Daniel Bryan in a pretty decent match to become the WWE United States Champion
4) Christian
5) The Miz
Andy Critchell
1) The Miz
All due respect to Eddie Edwards but really this week belonged to The Miz. He continues to look strong on the Road to Wrestlemania and his performance to end Raw was superb. His mimicry of the Rock was dead on and his beat down of Cena felt cathartic and real.
2) Eddie Edwards: I have tremendous respect for ROH and I think that winning their world title is worthy of recognition. And despite the fact that I could not pick the guy out of a lineup, those who follow ROH more closely than I do say that this is a big deal and I am willing to go along with that.
3) Sheamus/Brodus Clay: I thought about throwing Titus O'Neil in here too but since NXT is only available online I decided not to. But Sheamus and Brodus both represented themselves very well on both Raw and Smackdown this week and both made significant steps in their career advancement; Sheamus by winning the US title in a hell of a match and Brodus by having a fun little match with Edge. Sheamus is in the process of being rebuilt and Brodus is in the process of being built up so each event carries its own impact.
4) Titus O'Neil
5) MVP
THE WINNERS~!
Special Mention Bully Ray - 4 Votes
Fifth Place Christian and Extreme Tiger - 11 Votes
Fourth Place The Miz - 13 Votes
Third Place MVP - 16 Votes
MVP tapped out Hiroshi Tanahashi this past week
Second Place Sheamus - 29 Votes
Won the WWE US Title in a very good TV match
Wrestler of the Week Eddie Edwards - 35 Votes
Your new ROH World Champion
Year-End Standings~!
Eddie Edwards won the ROH Title, Sheamus won the US Title, but the Miz's fourth place finish has secured his victory for the year. There's ONE week left to go to see how the final standings will sort out
Let's check out the Year-End Standings!
1. The Miz 133 (Raw)
2. Wade Barrett 111 (Smackdown)
3. Daniel Bryan 107 (Raw)
4. Edge 99 (Smackdown)
5. Randy Orton 87 (Raw)
6. Dolph Ziggler 80 (Raw)
7. Chris Sabin 78 (TNA)
7. Alex Shelley 78 (TNA)
9. AJ Styles 63 (TNA)
10. Jack Swagger 62 (SmackDown)
11. John Morrison 58 (Raw)
12. John Cena 56 (Raw)
13. Rob Van Dam 55 (TNA)
14. Jeff Hardy 54 (TNA)
15. Masato Yoshino 51 (Dragon Gate)
Kane 50 (SmackDown)
Rey Mysterio 46 (Smackdown)
Cody Rhodes 45 (Smackdown)
Sheamus 43 (Raw) Claudio Castagnoli 43 (ROH)
CM Punk 42 (Raw)
Alberto Del Rio 38 (Smackdown) Kurt Angle 38 (TNA)
Satoshia Kojima 35 (All Japan)
Evan Bourne 34 (Raw) {INJURED}
Christopher Daniels 31 (ROH)
Eddie Edwards 30 (ROH) Roderick Strong 30 (ROH)
Mr. Anderson 28 (TNA) Justin Gabriel 28 (Smackdown) Robert Roode 28 (TNA)
Eddie Edwards? LOL. The ROH Title is beyond irrelevant, passing from one vanilla no-name to another vanilla no-name. Only a few fatass virgins care about that shitty dying bingo hall fed. These ROH nobodies couldn't draw flies to shit.
Posted By: Guest#1917 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:13 PM
only to votes for TNA wrestlers??? the anti TNA bias of this column is disgusting
Posted By: samir (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:16 PM
All votes concerning Eddie Edwards winning the ROH title should be dq'ed because ROH is irrelevant.
Posted By: Greg (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:19 PM
So another vanilla midget won the ROH title, big deal. JTG jobbing to Tyler Reks on SuperStars is more of an achievement than Eddie "couldn't draw hippies to woodstock" Edwards winning that worthless, pretend world title.
Posted By: Guest#0053 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:19 PM
This weeks comments should draw a laugh or two.
Posted By: The fuj (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Congrats to the Miz winning Wrestler of the Year. When you look back at his rise over the last year, he is a deserving winner, I'm a big fan of Daniel Bryan but he has been overrated so hard by the IWC, he shouldn't even be in the top 5. Look at all Miz has done in the last year:
- US Title
- Tag Title
- Money in the Bank
- RAW Captain at Bragging Rights
- WWE champion for 100+ days
- Main eventing Wrestlemania
- Holding his own with genuine big stars like Cena and Rock
- Large amounts of mainstream attention
- Featured prominently on all shows
Posted By: Guest#2558 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Edwards is a poor choice for champ, but at least the title is off Roderick Strong. Strong is the definition of a vanilla midget, the worse ROH champ since Xavier. ROH is dying a slow death now that HDNet has pulled the plug.
Posted By: Guest#1072 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:24 PM
Awwwwwesommmmmme.
Posted By: Frie (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:26 PM
Vince purposely jobbed out Bryan so he wouldnt win WOTY. Thank you Vince.
Posted By: Guest#6294 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:37 PM
Well i guess Wai Barrit isnt winning :( -sigh-
Posted By: King Of Diamonds (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:52 PM
Vince purposely jobbed out Bryan so he wouldnt win WOTY. Thank you Vince.
Posted By: Guest#6294 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:37 PM
no 411 writer are just in his pocket.can't vote for daniel brian.can't vote for tna even if someone wins tha tna tittle.
Posted By: miz sucks more (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:06 PM
Sheamus? Miz? Christian? WWE isnt wrestling (their own words). You might as well vote for Justin Bieber as wrestler of the week.
Posted By: Guest#8816 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:15 PM
"Vince purposely jobbed out Bryan so he wouldnt win WOTY. Thank you Vince.
Posted By: Guest#6294 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:37 PM"
All hope isn't gone yet. I'm sure some writers here will list Bryan in all five positions to try to give him a "come from behind" victory!
Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:15 PM
AJ Styles is a poor choice for champ, but at least the title is off Jeff Jarrett. Jarrett is the definition of a vanilla midget, the worse TNA champ since Shamrock. TNA is dying a slow death now that Fox Sports Net has pulled the plug.
Posted By: Post from 2005 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:16 PM
Eddie Edwards as Wrestler of the Week should be right. WWE superstars don't count anymore because they don't want to refer to themselves as wrestlers anymore which means that they shouldn't be considered in the Wrestler of the Week voting.
Posted By: Guest#8515 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:17 PM
This weeks comments should draw a laugh or two.
Posted By: The fuj (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Aye. Lets sit back, eat some popcorn and watch the fanbse of this site validate their reputation for being the pinnacle of ignorance.
Posted By: Guest#7053 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:18 PM
stuffing the ballots for Miz much?
Posted By: KGNine (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:19 PM
I can't disagree with Miz at the top because he has certainly earned it. While I personally favored Bryan, he hasn't had the ongoing momentum that Miz has continually built, especially since his MITB win in July.
Posted By: Michael L (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:34 PM
All of you are wrong. Jon Jones should be Wrestler of the Week for beating Shogun Rua for the UFC Light Heavyweight Championship.
Posted By: Guest#2772 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:47 PM
Alberto Del Rio is a poor choice for champ, but at least the title is off Edge. Edge is the definition of a vanilla midget, the worse WWE champ since Buddy Rogers. WWE is dying a slow death now that WGN has pulled the plug.
Posted By: Post from April 2011 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:48 PM
One word.
AWEEESOME.
Posted By: Guest#8265 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:56 PM
i dont repeat but TNA sucks as its fact they are terrible...
Posted By: Guest#3214 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:57 PM
only to votes for TNA wrestlers??? the anti TNA bias of this column is disgusting
Posted By: samir (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:16 PM
nobody cares about TNA..
Posted By: Guest#5231 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:58 PM
Eddie Edwards? LOL. The ROH Title is beyond irrelevant, passing from one vanilla no-name to another vanilla no-name. Only a few fatass virgins care about that shitty dying bingo hall fed. These ROH nobodies couldn't draw flies to shit.
Posted By: Guest#1917 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:13 PM
You are full of it.
Posted By: Guest#6164 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:59 PM
Eddie Edwards? LOL. The ROH Title is beyond irrelevant, passing from one vanilla no-name to another vanilla no-name. Only a few fatass virgins care about that shitty dying bingo hall fed. These ROH nobodies couldn't draw flies to shit.
Posted By: Guest#1917 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:13 PM
you stupid dude.
Posted By: Guest#0465 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:59 PM
Eddie Edwards? LOL. The ROH Title is beyond irrelevant, passing from one vanilla no-name to another vanilla no-name. Only a few fatass virgins care about that shitty dying bingo hall fed. These ROH nobodies couldn't draw flies to shit.
Posted By: Guest#1917 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:13 PM
1,500 in attendance, which last time I checked is more than TNA could ever do.
Instead of bashing evetything, try getting out of the tunnel and explore the options.
Posted By: Real Truth, not ignorant one (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:02 PM
Alberto Del Rio is a poor choice for champ, but at least the title is off Edge. Edge is the definition of a vanilla midget, the worse WWE champ since Buddy Rogers. WWE is dying a slow death now that WGN has pulled the plug.
Posted By: Post from April 2011 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:48 PM
you seriously have mental problems. so stupid.
Posted By: Guest#0499 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:05 PM
nope. ROH isn't good.
Posted By: Guest#0519 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:07 PM
Eddie Edwards? LOL. The ROH Title is beyond irrelevant, passing from one vanilla no-name to another vanilla no-name. Only a few fatass virgins care about that shitty dying bingo hall fed. These ROH nobodies couldn't draw flies to shit.
Posted By: Guest#1917 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:13 PM
1,500 in attendance, which last time I checked is more than TNA could ever do.
Instead of bashing evetything, try getting out of the tunnel and explore the options.
Posted By: Real Truth, not ignorant one (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:02 PM
How many countries watch ROH each week? Oh wait, they have virtually zero fans outside of the US. TNA, like it or not, is watched all over the world. Stop deluding yourself.
Posted By: Guest#4814 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:10 PM
Nope. JonesTW > TNA.
Posted By: Guest#9788 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:11 PM
Shouldnt this 'award" go to someone who actually "wrestled?" Wow,Miz beat up Khali and cut a good promo.
I thought this was for 'WRESTLER of the Week?
Posted By: Gary (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:20 PM
"Aye. Lets sit back, eat some popcorn and watch the fanbse of this site validate their reputation for being the pinnacle of ignorance.
Posted By: Guest#7053 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:18 PM"
Actually I would say that about half the writers for this column would fit under "the pinnacle of ignorance" remark and not the readers. I mean what other type of person would try to troll his/her own readership?
Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:22 PM
TNA, like it or not, is watched all over the world.
Posted By: Guest#4814 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:10 PM
Thats what TNA's marketing is telling you. The ratings however show that in countries outside of the US only a few thousand people watch. The UK is the only exception, they have about 100.000 viewers there, which is 1/20 of what they draw in the US.
Posted By: Guest#5190 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:23 PM
only to votes for TNA wrestlers??? the anti TNA bias of this column is disgusting
Objectively, what happened in TNA last week that was truly noteworthy?
Jeff Hardy showing up drunk?
Gunnar, previously a Tag Team jobber, winning the (somewhat meaningless) TV Title?
Did anyone in TNA truly distinguish himself last week?
Posted By: Carl (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:30 PM
TNA, like it or not, is watched all over the world.
Posted By: Guest#4814 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:10 PM
Thats what TNA's marketing is telling you. The ratings however show that in countries outside of the US only a few thousand people watch. The UK is the only exception, they have about 100.000 viewers there, which is 1/20 of what they draw in the US.
Posted By: Guest#5190 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:23 PM
And ROH has how many? A few dozen guys on the internet? TNA did a fairly successful tour of europe, which even the most diehard ROH fan knows they couldnt do. Im not a TNA troll by the way. I like ROH, but the two companies have been around a similar amount of time and the different levels of growth should be obvious to everyone.
Posted By: Guest#5615 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:35 PM
"Aye. Lets sit back, eat some popcorn and watch the fanbse of this site validate their reputation for being the pinnacle of ignorance.
Posted By: Guest#7053 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:18 PM"
Actually I would say that about half the writers for this column would fit under "the pinnacle of ignorance" remark and not the readers. I mean what other type of person would try to troll his/her own readership?
Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:22 PM
Yeah...I'm not sure what's worse: wrestling fans who think they actually qualify as writers or wrestling fans who take the opinions of those pseudo writers way too fucking seriously.
Not that it matters though, in the end it all makes for hilarious displays of internet retardation.
Posted By: Guest#2761 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:47 PM
the anti TNA bias of this column is disgusting
Posted By: samir (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:16 PM
The anti-quality wrestling product bias of TNA is far more disgusting.
Posted By: Realistic Fan (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:51 PM
Do the commentors on these posts know a single phrase besides vanilla midget? Develop a vocabulary, please. You're making the rest of us put up with your ignorance when you put the same comment every week. Shut up, sit down and actually think about what you are going to write from week to week.
With that said, Congrats to Miz. He certainly deserves the WOTY. As for this week, I think Sheamus should have received the WOTW for his wins over Bryan and Kingston. Eddie Edwards certianly deserves a nod for #2 for the ROH belt, #3 to Christian for his win over Del Rio, #4 to Bully Ray for inserting himself into the Immortal mix and #5 to Gunner for his TV Title win.
See..a thoughtful post without using vanilla midget forty seven times. :D
Posted By: Kedrix (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 05:09 PM
Eddie Edwards? LOL. The ROH Title is beyond irrelevant, passing from one vanilla no-name to another vanilla no-name. Only a few fatass virgins care about that shitty dying bingo hall fed. These ROH nobodies couldn't draw flies to shit.
Posted By: Guest#1917 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:13 PM
1,500 in attendance, which last time I checked is more than TNA could ever do.
Instead of bashing evetything, try getting out of the tunnel and explore the options.
Posted By: Real Truth, not ignorant one (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:02 PM
How many countries watch ROH each week? Oh wait, they have virtually zero fans outside of the US. TNA, like it or not, is watched all over the world. Stop deluding yourself.
Posted By: Guest#4814 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:10 PM
Uhh....England, Germany, Australia, Japan, Canada, Mexico...all those countries have purchased their DVDs and a few of them have even had title defenses there.
TGB
Posted By: The Green Bastard (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 05:35 PM
Verne Gagne is a poor choice for champ, but at least the title is off Bockwinkle. Bockwinkle is the definition of a vanilla midget, the worse AWA champ since Mad Dog Vachon. AWA is dying a slow death now that ESPN Classic has pulled the plug.
Posted By: Post from 1981 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 05:44 PM
Eddie Edwards as Wrestler of the Week should be right. WWE superstars don't count anymore because they don't want to refer to themselves as wrestlers anymore which means that they shouldn't be considered in the Wrestler of the Week voting.
Posted By: Guest#8515 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:17 PM
Um, last time I checked wrestling was fake, but then again, indy fans live and die by their backyard feds so it doesn't surprise me that you made that comment.
Posted By: Greg (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 05:47 PM
The Miz wrestler of the year? Anybody else know of any wrestling sites? This is disgusting....
Posted By: Guest#4099 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 06:04 PM
Bully Ray should have won this hands down. Just for saying about A.J. what us known kool-aid drinkers of the IWC have been thinking. Plus a reality check to Sting, followed by murding Styles again.
Posted By: MTL (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 06:09 PM
only to votes for TNA wrestlers??? the anti TNA bias of this column is disgusting
Posted By: samir (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:16 PM
I assume you mean 'two' and not 'to', but regardless TNA did jack shit of note this week. Clearly it's YOU who's biased if you think there was anything worthy of points.
Posted By: Frie (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 06:17 PM
Yeah...I'm not sure what's worse: wrestling fans who think they actually qualify as writers or wrestling fans who take the opinions of those pseudo writers way too fucking seriously.
Not that it matters though, in the end it all makes for hilarious displays of internet retardation.
Posted By: Guest#2761 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:47 PM
At times this entire website seems like one big display of "internet retardation", lol.
Posted By: Guest#6154 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 06:20 PM
to be considered a world title wouldn't you have to have shows areound the entire world? not just the eastern tri state area? ring of honor belt might as well just be a paper weight
Posted By: Guest#3944 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 06:25 PM
Congrats to The Miz - nobody has advanced their career as much as he has this year...
Posted By: Guest#1307 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 06:26 PM
"only to votes for TNA wrestlers??? the anti TNA bias of this column is disgusting"
Dude, I'm a TNA fan, and even I can't claim TNA bias this week. TNA had a HORRIBLE week.
About the only person who deserves any WOTW (I guess this would be last week) is Sting, simply for putting up with the Hardy crap, and handling it as best he could.
Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 06:52 PM
Ryan Byers
1) MVP
This week, in a tag team match, MVP tapped out Hiroshi Tanahashi, the holder of the most prestigious world title outside of WWE. This clearly establishes Porter as a force to be reckoned with in New Japan Pro Wrestling and probably sets him up for a title shot within the next several months.
==========
Figures Byers would vote MVP #1 AFTER he leaves WWE. Not that MVP had a good year, but it just goes to show...
Byers is a troll.
Posted By: Hmm (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 07:10 PM
And ROH has how many? A few dozen guys on the internet? TNA did a fairly successful tour of europe, which even the most diehard ROH fan knows they couldnt do. Im not a TNA troll by the way. I like ROH, but the two companies have been around a similar amount of time and the different levels of growth should be obvious to everyone.
Posted By: Guest#5615 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 04:35 PM
Except that they have successfully toured both Great Britain and Japan. Multiple times. Besides, the different levels of growth comparison is kind of pointless when you consider that TNA's "growth" is fuelled entirely by someone whose daddy is willing to spend tens of millions of dollars to get his daughter on TV. Furthermore, in New York, which is still one of the biggest wrestling markets in the United States, ROH consistently outdraws TNA.
Posted By: Skios (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 07:24 PM
Uhh....England, Germany, Australia, Japan, Canada, Mexico...all those countries have purchased their DVDs and a few of them have even had title defenses there.
TGB
Posted By: The Green Bastard (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 05:35 PM
Yeah a couple of dvd sales doesnt mean their an international company. I live in the UK and TNA has adverts in magazines, newspapers, television and their dvds are in stores all over the country. The only reason I know ROH exists is because of the internet. Also, who the hell signs their comments? No one cares dude, get over yourself.
Posted By: Guest#2411 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 08:32 PM
Except that they have successfully toured both Great Britain and Japan. Multiple times. Besides, the different levels of growth comparison is kind of pointless when you consider that TNA's "growth" is fuelled entirely by someone whose daddy is willing to spend tens of millions of dollars to get his daughter on TV. Furthermore, in New York, which is still one of the biggest wrestling markets in the United States, ROH consistently outdraws TNA.
Posted By: Skios (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 07:24 PM
ROH last British tour was when? 2006? And the venues were small civic halls and the like which can hold a few hundred people. TNA has shows at Wembley arena and Manchester Evening News arena which hold thousands. Also, you're saying TNA's growth is less valid because a millionaire decided to invest in the company? Who cares if his reasons are questionable, thats what rich people do, they buy stuff for fun. At least they still have a TV deal and will be in business this time next year.
Posted By: Guest#3713 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 08:44 PM
So, hate to break it to you, but Eddie Edwards never won the Pure Championship...the title was put out of action before he ever debuted.
Posted By: JustAnotherVictim (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 09:00 PM
Impact had over 1.7 million viewers last week. ROH is insignificant compared to that. End of discussion.
Posted By: Guest#5114 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 09:17 PM
Eddie Edwards? LOL. The ROH Title is beyond irrelevant, passing from one vanilla no-name to another vanilla no-name. Only a few fatass virgins care about that shitty dying bingo hall fed. These ROH nobodies couldn't draw flies to shit.
Posted By: Guest#1917 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:13 PM
Your mother is a whore.
Posted By: *Asterisk* (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 09:30 PM
Eddie Edwards? LOL. The ROH Title is beyond irrelevant, passing from one vanilla no-name to another vanilla no-name. Only a few fatass virgins care about that shitty dying bingo hall fed. These ROH nobodies couldn't draw flies to shit.
Posted By: Guest#1917 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:13 PM
I dare you to say that to Eddie Edwards' face. I bet you won't and you will run away like the coward that you are.
Posted By: Guest#8329 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 09:42 PM
Impact had over 1.7 million viewers last week. ROH is insignificant compared to that. End of discussion.
Posted By: Guest#5114 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 09:17 PM
That may be true but TNA is still insignificant. Nobody knows what TNA is. They haven't grown at all despite international deals that mean nothing in the long term growth of TNA.
Posted By: Guest#4161 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 09:49 PM
This weeks comments should draw a laugh or two.
Posted By: The fuj (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Aye. Lets sit back, eat some popcorn and watch the fanbse of this site validate their reputation for being the pinnacle of ignorance.
Posted By: Guest#7053 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 03:18 PM
making these putrid columns worth reading is ignorence? if anything the only reason i go to these is to watch people like guest1917 and truth lay the smackdown on the pathetic state of wrestling
Posted By: Guest#2651 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 10:07 PM
ROH last British tour was when? 2006? And the venues were small civic halls and the like which can hold a few hundred people. TNA has shows at Wembley arena and Manchester Evening News arena which hold thousands. Also, you're saying TNA's growth is less valid because a millionaire decided to invest in the company? Who cares if his reasons are questionable, thats what rich people do, they buy stuff for fun. At least they still have a TV deal and will be in business this time next year.
Posted By: Guest#3713 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 08:44 PM
It doesn't matter if they've been around for the same amount of time. If TNA wasn't bigger than ROH then something would be wrong. Fact is, TNA wasn't turning a profit until around '07 or '08 when they finally started releasing financial info; it's the key reason they started releasing the info. So financially the company was a failure for its first five or so years. How did they survive? Panda.
Meanwhile, ROH starts off as basically a local promotion out of Philly/South Jersey being run by a bunch of video bootleggers who could barely afford their own business let alone a promotion. They slowled added markets as the made more money until now where they are a legitimate national promotions, running shows throughout the country. Meaning to stay in business they've had to at least stay even financially. How did they stay in business? By selling tickets and DVDs, the former of which TNA has never been able to do on a consistent basis. Most of the crowd in the Asylum during their early days didn't pay, and most of the Impact audience doesn't now. The only time TNA sells tickets is overseas, and that's because they're a special attraction. If they ran those areas on a regular basis, they wouldn't keep selling tickets.
To draw a comparison: ROH is the college student that's paying his own way while consistently getting good grades to stay afloat; TNA is the drunk frat boy that keeps failing out but gets chance after chance to return because daddy is bankrolling his partying.
In this case, daddy is both Panda and Spike. Because without Spike putting up a portion of the money for contracts for guys like Sting and Angle, they wouldn't be able to afford that kind of talent. TNA has had every opportunity to succeed and still finds ways to fail (first attempt at signing Hogan, Jeff Hardy, etc.) while ROH has faced set back after set back (Feinstein, talent raids, etc.) but continues to grow as a company.
Posted By: Guest#6340 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 10:30 PM
I can taste the trolls' tears. They taste so delicious. Please. Cry more. It's so amazing.
Posted By: Guest#1562 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 10:33 PM
Impact had over 1.7 million viewers last week. ROH is insignificant compared to that. End of discussion.
Posted By: Guest#5114 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 09:17 PM
That may be true but TNA is still insignificant. Nobody knows what TNA is. They haven't grown at all despite international deals that mean nothing in the long term growth of TNA.
Posted By: Guest#4161 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 09:49 PM
Yeah because reaching more viewers and creating more fans worldwide is the exact opposite of growth? Get a clue.
Posted By: Guest#5755 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 10:48 PM
Who the fuck is Eddie Whathisname and WTF does he matter at all????
Posted By: Guest#1827 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 11:10 PM
How the top 2 places are both guys who got most of the points feuding with Cena, yet Cena is way down the list....Doesn't it take two guys to make a good feud? Barrett feuds with Cena, now Miz, and they get tons of votes, and Cena never gets any. Hilarious.
Posted By: Wondering (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 11:32 PM
if Miz wins Entertainer of the year then who is Wrestler of the year?
Posted By: philburttheturtle (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 11:41 PM
Thought Byers was refusing to write about wrestling until every bad thing in the world went away? Ho hum...
Posted By: Guest#2622 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 11:48 PM
Edge is 6 foot 4. Taller than the entire roh roster and 3/4 of the wwe roster. By that rationale tough to be a midget and vanilla is an awesome flavor
Posted By: Becoolerifyoudid (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 11:54 PM
Yeah because reaching more viewers and creating more fans worldwide is the exact opposite of growth? Get a clue.
Posted By: Guest#5755 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 10:48 PM
They get low ratings there. The international market means nothing because they don't do shows there. Australia TV just canceled TNA Impact. TNA Impact in England doesn't get high ratings. Plus almost every U.S TV show is shown in international markets. Being in international markets means nothing.
Posted By: Guest#3119 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 11:56 PM
In this case, daddy is both Panda and Spike. Because without Spike putting up a portion of the money for contracts for guys like Sting and Angle, they wouldn't be able to afford that kind of talent. TNA has had every opportunity to succeed and still finds ways to fail (first attempt at signing Hogan, Jeff Hardy, etc.) while ROH has faced set back after set back (Feinstein, talent raids, etc.) but continues to grow as a company.
Posted By: Guest#6340 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 10:30 PM
How is ROH growing exactly? By getting cancelled? You know what, it's actually pointless getting into these discussions with ROH fans. They just cover their ears and endless shout 'TNA SUCKS! THEY NEVER HAVE 60 MINUTE DRAWS!' In the hope it will cover up the fact that their favorite fed has been effortlessly raped of all their talent and is quite frankly a bore to watch nowdays.
Posted By: Guest#1012 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 12:03 AM
To draw a comparison: ROH is the college student that's paying his own way while consistently getting good grades to stay afloat; TNA is the drunk frat boy that keeps failing out but gets chance after chance to return because daddy is bankrolling his partying.
Actually, ROH is that annoying friend you have that only watches black and white arthouse movies and only listens to obscure bands no ones ever heard of. TNA is an action movie that you know is stupid but at least you dont feel like an elitest prick for enjoying it.
Posted By: Guest#9319 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 12:06 AM
They get low ratings there. The international market means nothing because they don't do shows there. Australia TV just canceled TNA Impact. TNA Impact in England doesn't get high ratings. Plus almost every U.S TV show is shown in international markets. Being in international markets means nothing.
Posted By: Guest#3119 (Guest) on March 21, 2011 at 11:56 PM
So...what counts as growth? Apparently new tv deals in other countries isnt, neither is successful tours in other continents. I eagerly await your answer. Also, TNA had 150,000 people watching in the UK last week. Considering wrestling is nowhere near mainstream in the uk, thats impressive. ROH will NEVER get half as many people watching a show. EVER.
Posted By: Guest#4228 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 12:10 AM
The Miz will be wrestler of the year? Say it ain't so!
Posted By: Guest#7994 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 12:11 AM
How is ROH growing exactly? By getting cancelled? You know what, it's actually pointless getting into these discussions with ROH fans. They just cover their ears and endless shout 'TNA SUCKS! THEY NEVER HAVE 60 MINUTE DRAWS!' In the hope it will cover up the fact that their favorite fed has been effortlessly raped of all their talent and is quite frankly a bore to watch nowdays.
Posted By: Guest#1012 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 12:03 AM
By HDNet? It has penetration, but hardly anyone even knows that channel exists. The HDNet deal was a step sideways even when they first got it. They don't lose much with it gone, other than the fact that they don't have to spend money on TV tapings.
But here's how you define growth: adding new markets where once there were none. Which ROH is doing. They've expanded into the South and Midwest over the last 3 years. They continue to pull sellout or near sellout crowds in their old markets. They just added iPPVs which are almost entirely profit for the company, and most of their iPPVs keep doing at or above the previous which means new fans are buying the shows each time. Yes, 1,000 to 2,000 may not be seem like a lot but sources like Meltzer have reported in the past that TNA only pulls in 10,000 to 20,000 buys for their "real" PPVs which doesn't place them a hell of a lot higher than ROH. They may have 1.7 million viewers on Spike but how many of those people actually spend money on the company? A fraction of a fraction.
Posted By: Guest#5409 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 01:50 AM
Actually, ROH is that annoying friend you have that only watches black and white arthouse movies and only listens to obscure bands no ones ever heard of. TNA is an action movie that you know is stupid but at least you dont feel like an elitest prick for enjoying it.
Posted By: Guest#9319 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 12:06 AM
No, TNA is the equivalent of Date Movie or Epic Movie where it's a shitty parody of a real genre and you feel genuinely embarrassed to admit you watched it.
Posted By: Guest#8515 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 01:54 AM
LMAO at all the butthurt ROH fanboys, getting ultra-defensive about their beloved fed. This is why indy fanboys are so easy to troll, they ALWAYS take the bait.
Here's the reality - TNA sucks, and with all the names they have signed over the last few years should be doing a LOT better. But TNA is still in a completely different league to ROH, which is an obscure indy fed catering exclusively to a few thousand workrate-obsessed basement dwelling virgins.
Posted By: Guest#0200 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 10:26 AM
By HDNet? It has penetration, but hardly anyone even knows that channel exists. The HDNet deal was a step sideways even when they first got it. They don't lose much with it gone, other than the fact that they don't have to spend money on TV tapings.
But here's how you define growth: adding new markets where once there were none. Which ROH is doing. They've expanded into the South and Midwest over the last 3 years. They continue to pull sellout or near sellout crowds in their old markets. They just added iPPVs which are almost entirely profit for the company, and most of their iPPVs keep doing at or above the previous which means new fans are buying the shows each time. Yes, 1,000 to 2,000 may not be seem like a lot but sources like Meltzer have reported in the past that TNA only pulls in 10,000 to 20,000 buys for their "real" PPVs which doesn't place them a hell of a lot higher than ROH. They may have 1.7 million viewers on Spike but how many of those people actually spend money on the company? A fraction of a fraction.
Posted By: Guest#5409 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 01:50 AM
how is 10,000 and 20,000 not that much more than 1,000 and 2,000? Now you are asking to be ripped on.
also how many PPV buys did ROH do in Canada? 36. 36 buys, which is why they never went back. Sell out crowds of 500 people is not a lot. The Arena is tiny.
I hate TNA, but to say ROH is more relevant is a joke. 1.7 million viewers brings TNA money, you dodo. Advertisers, spike. You just do not know how things work. That is why they were able to claim profit is because they got revenue from TV tapings.
Posted By: ROH (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 01:23 PM
LMAO at all the butthurt ROH fanboys, getting ultra-defensive about their beloved fed. This is why indy fanboys are so easy to troll, they ALWAYS take the bait.
Here's the reality - TNA sucks, and with all the names they have signed over the last few years should be doing a LOT better. But TNA is still in a completely different league to ROH, which is an obscure indy fed catering exclusively to a few thousand workrate-obsessed basement dwelling virgins.
Posted By: Guest#0200 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 10:26 AM
You are the one that is butthurt. The ROH fans are trolling you. Calling people virgins these days is so unoriginal. Come up with something original buddy.
Posted By: Guest#3257 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 01:56 PM
Wow, the comment section here is worse than Youtube's comment sections. There is nothing immature children here.
Posted By: Guest#2598 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 01:59 PM
Wow, the comment section here is worse than Youtube's comment sections. There is nothing immature children here.
Posted By: Guest#2598 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 01:59 PM
Oh yeah? Well my dad's bigger than your dad. SO THERE!
Posted By: Guest#2277 (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 02:49 PM
Just ignore the ROH fanboys, they are just bitter because their indy darling Daniel Bryan has been exposed in the big leagues as a generic vanilla midget with no charisma, promo skills, presence or star quality. Daniel Bryan couldn't draw flies if he was buried up to the neck in shit.
Posted By: Truth (Guest) on March 22, 2011 at 05:51 PM
Damn that ROH and lack of drawing power. Nevermind that a good 25-50% of the known(whether liked or not) workers started or wrestled at one point on ROH.
I think that the NWA championship needs more recognition. Why? Because if it wasn't for the NWA we wouldn't have seen WCW(for what it was worth) or have TNA the little promotion that could. I think ROH, EVOLVE, PWG, DGUSA, Chikara, etc need to band together to put on more NWA territory vs territory style supercards. At least that way they can get their star players some more recognition nationwide and help elevate them to, let's be honest, the big stage. Let them get that contract and go to New York or Florida. Let them get to where the money is right now.
On a final note, don't be so quick to count out ROH. If they could get the solid financial backing they need, they could really start to become a contender. But for now we will have to settle with them being the #3 promotion in the US until something turns around for them and they can begin to get some national recognition and really find out who will be able to cut the mustard in the business.
Posted By: El Marco (Guest) on March 23, 2011 at 06:29 AM
At some point over the last year or 2 "Wrestler of the Week" became "Career Advancement of the Week". Just saying...
Posted By: Guest#0841 (Guest) on March 24, 2011 at 07:49 PM
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