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The Wrestling 6&1 12.03.11 SUPERSIZED Part #2: Maria Versus Madison!
Posted by Greg De Marco on 12.03.2011




PART TWO

If you haven't already, go back and read Part 1!

I told you a story during the opening of Part 1, remember? Well, there's more to it! You see, this past week (Tuesday to be exact) I was offered my top job choice. The one thing about being jobless is that despite all of the stress & worry that goes along with it, it's kind of exciting! I had a lot of great interviews, and was actually headed to orientation for one position on Tuesday morning when the call came from the other. So my weeks of waiting, knowing we made the right decision, have paid off. I accepted the second position and am very excited to get started, which happens on December 12.

(Yes, I know that providing this type of info feeds the trolls. But I loves me some trolls, remember?)

Thanks to this change, I can happily say that The Greg DeMarco Show is ready to air as normal, each Tuesday evening. The normal time of 10:30 PM is in full effect, unless there is a live Smackdown—we'll start right after Smackdown in those instances. If Smackdown ever moves to Tuesdays, we'll move our show to 10 PM eastern on a permanent basis.

I am also taking on a new responsibility here at 411Mania, but I'll elaborate on that more during my Impact recap. Or at least where the Impact recap should go.



Last Week: After a very valiant effort, , Tiffany finally settled into #4 in the Hall. This is your current Hall right here...



This Week: With Tiffany's position solidified, we're opening door for two new combatants...



Can Maria earn her spot in the Hall?



Or does Madison rain down on her chances?



YOU MAKE THE CALL!



Maria Kanellis vs. Madison Rayne. Take your pick!
Stay tuned as next week as I'll reveal the winner!




(Part 2!)

There's something kinda funny reading a piece that explains that the WWE doesn't want Faby Apache (who is not an unattractive woman) because she's "a little bottom heavy" by WWE standards right after finishing a piece that discusses Kharma. Granted, Kharma isn't a "Diva," but she's popular with the WWE crowds despite not fitting the Diva mold.
Posted By: JJChandler


You bring up a good point, and I've seen that comparison elsewhere on this site and others. There's a big difference between Kharma and Faby Apache, at least in the eyes of WWE brass. Kharma is a special attraction in the division. She eats Barbie dolls for breakfast. Faby Apache wouldn't be treated like that, she'd be a "Diva" that doesn't meet the vision the WWE has for a "diva." Remember, they're not female wrestlers in the WWE...hell, they're not even WWE Superstars. They're Divas, and wrestling is like 4th or 5th on their priority list.

as for Jesse Sorenson, aren't you guys criticizing him pretty harshly, for a rookie? i mean really, he's young, has a great wrestling build, he has sound fundamentals in the ring, good looking guy...if he plays his cards right, he has a bright future ahead! the fact that he hasn't yet mastered ring and crowd psychology, cutting promos, developing a sound character, is not yet important for Jesse Sorenson. you expect every wrestler to be a superstar in the first few years of their wrestling career? unlikely for most, unless you have serious stroke in the business, such as Rocky Maivia. give the kid time to develop his character, fine-tune his skills and ring psychology, you never know --he could end up the next Shawn Michaels, Rick Rude, or...Randy Orton.
Posted By: cerebral_paulzie


Dude, are you talking to me? I'm a supporter of Jesse! I guess you'r etalking about some of the reactions he gets in the Impact Wrestling recap, because others have been less than kind. The only criticism I have for Jesse Sorensen lies with TNA. They haven't given him any backstory—at all. Who is he? Was he a football legend, or did he just play? Does he have some cheerleader in his past that will come back to haunt him (Lizzy Valentine, anyone?)? I just don't TNA has done a good job marketing Jesse Sorensen, and that hurts the kid's push.

Fact: Zack Ryder got more of response than The Rock, and he didn't even have a match!
Posted By: Guest#7731


Is that because they were in NYC, or because Ryder is more over than The Rock? Let's be real here, it‘s because they were in NYC. Don't get me wrong, Ryder is mega over, and is an amazing success story. But he's not The Rock—not yet.

I'm an assman, and I approve this message:
Layla
Posted By: Guest#7206


You're an assman!



I'll never understand why Vince put so much of the focus of Billy's ass. It should have been about his love for ass, and the ass that followed him around.

It's funny how people try to defend being hypocritical toward TNA. Like TNA put on an awesome elimination tag match and thats copying Survivor Series Tag match but WWE didnt copy TNA when they had Beth and Natalya go after Kelly Kelly for being the perky cute diva getting all the attention a few weeks or so after TNA had ODB and Jackie return and attack Velvet Sky for being the perky cute Knockout getting all the attention, sorry but WWE blatantly copied TNA with that. Or how people bitched about Bobby Roode getting huge build then losing at BFG but didnt bitch after Alberto Del Rio was built up huge as well only to lose at WM 27. Or when people stopped complaining after a few days after WWE took the title off Christian after 2 days to let the story progress yet still complain about Storm losing the title to Roode so quick. People love to complain about TNA keeping Jeff Hardy after his mistakes yet WWE also kept him after mistakes as well and currently are keeping Heath Slater who not only violated the wellness policy but also was accused of attempted rape. God there are so many examples of the hypocrisy shown toward TNA it's ridiculous. Just sayin. And before all the hate from the WWE fanboys who love to comment and bash both TNA and it's fans yes I am a TNA fan,and dont bring up TNA's cash seeing as it is a private company it's cash isnt known,do I reconize it's flaws yes I do but unlike the TNA Hater Bandwagoners I also see the positives, and lastly dont even bring up how WWE is better, both are different and are meant for different audiences, dont like it dont watch it, dont be a ignorant fool and watch TNA to bash it. There I'm done, rant over. I know most of the WWE fans will not take this to heart and see the logic in what I'm saying and will hate on me for speaking my mind
Posted By: Jeff DeSilva


Dude, hit the enter button on occasion! Each comparison you made is true. But the WWE often makes up for their issues. Bobby Roode had a huge build, only to lose at Bound For Glory. Alberto Del Rio had a huge build, only to lose at WrestleMania. But Roode's loss closed out Bound For Glory. Del Rio's opened ‘Mania. Big difference on the overall "taste in your mouth" effect. But yes, in so many ways, TNA doesn't get a fair shake.Wow Greg! Cena turning heel, huh? ... Boy, if the other 569,963 other times this was predicted and turned out wrong, surely this must be the time! ... I can't wait for April 2nd, 2012 when once again Cena stays face, and people line up to predict a new "date" for it to occur...
Posted By: Be original!


Right, but if you actually read what I wrote, you'd see that I was starting with the assumption that fans want to see Cena turn heel. I then went at it from a different direction. It wasn't "Hey, I have a great idea! Turn Cena!" It was "if you're going to turn Cena, great! But now is not the time."



My vote goes for Rock to win at Wrestlemania with Cena beating the everloving shit out of the Rock post-match; blood and all, WM17 style. A sissy promo on the RAW after WM won't get it done...
Posted By: mr_wishart


I would love to see that happen (maybe without the blade job). That would in fact be more effective than a promo. And that idea makes you...



"You know plenty. But I think the one thing we're all failing to see is the impact of a Ryder loss. Say the WWE was 100% sure they were keeping the belt on Ziggler at Survivor Series. Considering that a given, what they did was the better option."
Wow... I actually never thought of it that way. You're right - if Ryder lost the crowd would've been taken right out of the rest of the show. What they did really was the best thing they could've done in that situation. It actually worked out well; it's putting even more heat behind Ryder.
Posted By: Franke Sisto


See, I was wrong when I called the commenters idiots. There are plenty of smart ones, just like this guy!



Kharma might not be coming back at all, and Trish won't show her face unless she's got something to sell. Great idea for a dream match, Greg.
Posted By: Guest#4783




Except it wasn't my idea, moron! It was Trish's.



The difference between WWE and TNA is payoff. Both with do horrible booking and angles. Both can start good angles. But WWE gives us a payoff more often. ... Did Frontline ever go over MEM? Did Immortal ever have their asses epically handed to them and implode? Do Abyss or Samoa Joe feuds go anywhere or do they just quietly die somewhere? ... Pushes happen in WWE too. If Zack Ryder were in TNA, he'd be alongside Eric Young. Jay Lethal (if he were tall enough to get in) in WWE could have been in Ryder's current shoes. ... TNA has mostly recycled the same talent in the main event scene. Anderson's pushes die as soon as they start. In the last couple of years, the only other new blood in the championship are Beer Money and we have yet to see how that turns out. ... WWE has the Miz, Christian, and Mark Henry in the last year. Ziggler is soon to join them and Cody Rhodes has been given the time to build himself nicely. ... Fandom sometimes get rewarded in WWE.
Posted By: Guest#2588


Another one! You put it into great perspective, making you the second incarnation of...



LAYLA! LAYLA! LAYLA! Also, Veda Scott makes me sad
Posted By: Crowley


Why does Veda make you mad? Too attractive?



The five - DeMarco pretty much covers the basic differences between SS Henry-Show and 90% of TNA PPV main events, but the other factor for me is that TNA has to be better if they are going to close the gap with WWE! Like fellow #2 Avis, Impact Wrestling has to try harder. Casual fans, lapsed fans, disgruntled 'E fans, indy fans - Impact can't grow their audience by being WWE lite. They need to try different things. Not everything is going to hit, but if the folks coming up with ideas produce more "bullshit" than "holy shit" moments...you probably need to get some new folks to come up with ideas.

The three - There is no reason to "turn" John Cena. He is, for all storytelling purposes, a heel for at last half the audience right now. WWE has the best of both worlds with Cena - he sells merch to kids like no one else, and adults and smarks pay to boo him and for a chance to see him get his ass kicked. Greg's "Ladies Love Cool Cena" idea is interesting, but I can't see that making up for the loss of t-shirt and toy sales to kids. Creative needs to let character alignment develop naturally for the 21st century market, especially for babyfaces. Yeah, you're gonna end up with a handful of tweeners, but booking should adapt to that rather than force crowds to act like it's 1996. Look at Orton and Punk. When the audience was "told" that they were 'faces, they fizzled. After successful heel runs, they were both turned by the audience. Heel Cena could work the same way, but I don't know if you'd ever recapture the kids. I truly believe that a lot of smarks and much of the IWC want a Cena turn so they can feel cool cheering him again. But I don't see how it makes any business sense for the WWE.

The two - I don't look to women in the WWE for anything other than eye candy, so their booking and talent decisions don't surprise or disappoint me at all.

And, you didn't ask, but I'd like to see more of Santana Garrett.

Posted By: s1rude


You need to comment more often. There is a spectrum of commenter for my columns, ranging to horrible troll to smart, well versed wrestling fan. You're on the good side, my friend.

TNA-WWE: You nailed it, and put my own thoughts into words better than I could. TNA has to try harder than the WWE does. EXACTLY. Much harder. They're starting in the hole, purely based on the fact that the WWE has a hugely successful corporation before The Jerry & Jeff Jarrett even thought of the concept of TNA. The WWE does get a pass, and they've earned it. Plus, they make up for their bad decisions, and usually on the same card.

Cena Heel Turn: While I do think LL Cool Cena does have a larger impact, I don't think the male audience that would support heel Cena would make up for the loss of the kids. Could there be an opposite reaction where the kids still cheer for heel Cena? That's a tough one. You'd need a face ready to take over the kid demographic, and the WWE doesn't have that. Here's a big problem I think we have with Cena: we can't cope with a tweener. Despite being "smart," "hardcore," and "in the know," we still need our good vs. evil and face-heel dynamic.

WWE Divas: I like that you can admit that you look at the Divas for simple eye candy. That's what the WWE wants, and more people need to take it for what it is, and turn to SHIMMER and Joshi if they want to see talented women wrestle.

I can't give you the normal victorious graphics—they don't do your comment justice. So I combined my need to recognize your efforts with your request for more Santana Garrett. Enjoy—you earned it!




POINTS 3, 2, and 1.





(If you haven't already, go back and read Part 1!)


The second half of my 2 Point Perspective looks not at what is going on now, but at the future. A big part of the reason for The Rock's return was struggling ratings and declining PPV buyrates. Now, the WWE draws a certain rating and a certain buyrate just for being the WWE. Much like the UFC, the WWE has established a pattern amongst viewers where they'll just watch to watch. That's the core audience (the UFC's is bigger at this time—at least from a PPV perspective) that we're talking about, they'll tune in regardless. It'll take a lot to pull them away from the product (although it's still possible).

So is the booking of The Rock equivalent to the damning of the WWE's creative and development process. Have they failed to create stars engage an audience, leading to the suspension of disbelief that wrestling is founded on?

It's hard to say. In all honesty, I think it's counter productive to look at who in the WWE could fill the void presented by The Rock. No one is The Rock. No one. His track record speaks for itself, and the very thing he uses to describe himself—electricity—is the very reason he is one of a kind in the business.

Whatever the opinions on Rock's number of appearances and programs he involved with, blame the shallow "stars" that are supposed to be headlining WWE now for not being able to get it done. If those "stars" were really getting over, Rock wouldve never been NEEDED for WM. Up and coming wrestlers always bitched about the older guys no getting out of the way for the next crop of "stars" to get their turn. Rock not only got out of the way, Rock got out of the business which left all of these "stars" more than enough opportunity to make a name for themselves.
Posted By: TheR


Also, I want to disagree with you about the CM Punk story and him keeping his mouth shut (for once)about the Rock. I only disagree because of what happened two years ago with him and management about him wearing a suit. I know he is A MUCH bigger star now, but still.
Posted By: Mr. Magnanimous


Just take a look at his return from earlier this year. Has there been a reaction like this since?



You might argue that similar reactions were achieved with CM Punk winning the WWE Championship at Money in the Bank, or with Zack Ryder's Survivor Series appearance. While those were two of the best pops of the year, but they don't compare to what The Rock got. I remember the text I got from Patrick O'Dowd (who was unaware that I hadn't watched the show, thus spoiling it for me!) that read exactly like this: BIGGEST POP EVER. Now while that is a knee-jerk reaction, it's the biggest pop in recent history, and does in fact belong in the argument for biggest pop ever.

Now go back above and watch the promo again, focusing on the promo, not the pop. The Rock does in fact ooze electricity. No one in the current WWE, and possibly in history, has that much electricity. The WWE couldn't possibly have created anyone to the level of The Rock, thus negating the chance of bringing him back. Look at the five men I pictured above, who are in all likelihood the future of the company. Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, Wade Barrett and Zack Ryder. All are talented in the ring. All can cut a promo. All are great at eliciting a reaction. All are nothing compared to The Rock. Look at the stars at the top of the roster today. John Cena. Randy Orton. CM Punk. Alberto Del Rio. Mark Henry. All of them—nothing compared to The Rock.

I get what CM Punk's beef w/ the Rock showing up a few times to a huge payday, while he busts his ass 90% of the year, but I feel this is a 'kayfabe'/ 'angle' type thing (I might be using the terms wrong) I think it doesn't bother him. ... CM Punk is no dope, Wrestlers finally have a future if they work hard enough, get over & depending on the right time & place, become a star. WWE always goes back to the nostalgia barrel. That being said, CM Punk is on the track for a Rock type deal once he's done, he's probably already a lock for a Undertaker, HBK, HHH, Y2J, Foley schedule when he decides to tone it down & not do it full time. ... A feud w/ the Rock ( or Stone Cold) could be his ticket to continued revenue when he decides he'll show up when needed. And doing so via twitter and the media is pretty smart (worked for Ryder). ... He's past the point of a 'Legacy Contract' like Hacksaw & Gold-dust, Tatanka and others thrown our way. (Santino has that retirement package in the bag, and maybe Ryder also if he keeps going) ... It's good that these guys have a solid future. 10-20 years ago, their futures would be working gym shows in North Dakota for gas money, now they stand to make a mint for 3 weeks of work when past their prime. That's awesome. Rock deserves it & so will Punk.
Posted By: Pant Log


I do think it bothers CM Punk, John Cena and Randy Orton that Vince McMahon had to bring in The Rock to boost ratings. In today's WWE, it's Cena, Orton & Punk who should be delivering the huge buyrates and leading the company into bigger and better things for 2012 and beyond. But they have shown they can't be counted on to provide that for Vince. Some of the blame does lie with creative. But is there anyone on the roster, that had creative not screwed things up, would be a Rock-level star? I just don't see it. Some of the blame also lies with the economy. Discretionary money—the money we spend on pro wrestling, UFC, movies, etc.—is at an all-time low. There is greater competition for that money, and it's what the WWE lives off of. But some things just transcend the economy—mega movies like the final installment of Harry Potter and the most recent Twilight film immediately come to mind. The Rock is for pro wrestling what Harry Potter is for the film industry. He can bring them back.

It does make me worry for the future. Wrestling needs a star like The Rock. Like "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. Like Shawn Michaels. Like The Undertaker. Like Hulk Hogan. Like Ric Flair. The stars of today aren't getting to that level. There is no one that can claim they are "the _______ of this generation" with that blank being filled by one of the names I just listed.

So what's the point?



The Rock (and the WWE) used the phrase "Never Before. Never Again." in promoting Survivor Series. The Rock is a one of a kind superstar in the business. He's a one of a kind individual in the world of sports & entertainment. The best way to describe The Rock is "Never Before. Never Again." He's at the top of a class of individuals that captured the hearts and imagination of fans worldwide in ways that today's stars only wish they could. But The Rock isn't doing the WWE any favors in his own commentary, both on stage and off stage. The Rock needs to be putting over the stars of today, so they can take the lead once The Rock is gone (again). But is he going away? Maybe there are already plans for The Rock to compete at WrestleMania 29, and WrestleMania 30. The Rock will be a month away from turning 40 when he wrestled John Cena in the main event of WrestleMania 28. The shape that he's in, the drive he has and the electricity he possesses can easily carry him well into his 40's before he needs to hang up his wrestling boots for good. So it's very possible that this "problem" will be trending on Twitter for several years to come.

You Decide: Is the WWE failing at creating new stars to the level that the entire company is outclassed by one man—The Rock?





According to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Kaitlyn might be joining Pin-Up Strong's Divas of Doom Beth Phoenix and Natalya. Accoridng to Meltzer "There is talk of putting Kaitlyn in the group with Phoenix and Natalya because now that she's gained weight they see her as fitting in with the thicker body type."

Now, Kaitlyn has always had some thickness to her. She was a body builder before ever entering the WWE. Management is obviously high on her, as she was brought into NXT after only a few months in FCW, and was ultimately given the NXT3 victory. Now, I clarify that because I'm not sure any of you outside of Tony Acero saw the second half of that season.

The move to Pin-Up Strong could be an interesting one. For starters, it's completely believable. One or two weeks focusing on Kaitlyn's physical training to be a Diva and the comparison will be easy for even the most casual of fan. Plus, it's not like there's a shortage of possible opposition that can be paired with Kelly Kelly in facing three members of Pin-Up Strong instead of two.

But if this story is true, then the WWE has a greater benefit—intentional or not. Kaitlyn could get a huge push out of the partnership. She's be elevated to the top Divas storyline (or, if you prefer, the only Divas storyline), and if the fans take to her, a possible face turn down the road in 2012.

Another benefit is her in-ring work. Working with Beth & Natalya can easily boost her workrate, as she's paired with the only two Divas who have any workrate. She can work tag and 6-Diva matches where any shortcomings she has are concealed as she continues to improve.

Like I said, management is obviously high on Kaitlyn based on how quickly she progressed to the main roster. Could a spot in Pin-Up Strong keep her on the fast-track to success?

You Decide: What do you think of the possibility of Kaitlyn in Pin-Up Strong?





Black Friday saw a monumental announcement come from Gabe Sapolsky. It wasn't quite as big as when he announced the formation of Dragon Gate USA, but it was still pretty big. Gabe announced this his other promotion—EVOLVE Wrestling—was being folded into Dragon Gate USA. EVOLVE shows would continue, but will now serve as a bridge between the DGUSA events. EVOLVE would still have storylines and a focus on win-loss records, and possibly a championship. And the EVOLVE events will help build the DGUSA events. And...well, that's pretty much it. We didn't get a whole lot else.

That is until a website got some key info from the man himself—Gabe Sapolsky. That site wasn't The Insider, The Observer or even ourselves. It was actually a wrestling writer for The Bleacher Report! Darryn Simmons spoke with Gabe and produced this gem, which I highly recommend you go and read. Seriously, go and read it, then come back.

In the article, Gabe provides the main purpose for the merger: "We're going to be able to keep the continuity going and everything won't die off." And he makes a great point. There is such a layoff between shows in DGUSA that all is typically forgotten, and needs to be reintroduced. With a show or two in between, challenges can be laid, title shots can be earned and cards can be developed through more than a website. Plus, Dragon Gate USA is no longer solely about the Japanese talent. Per Gabe in Darren's column, "It's something we couldn't do a year ago, but Dragon Gate USA shows are a lot more than just the Japanese talent now. The American talent has come such a long way." Johnny Gargano is the first American born Open The Freedom Gate champion, and is a member of Ronin with Chuck Taylor and Rich Swann, a stable whose popularity rivals that of the Dragon Gate factions.

This new move gives Gabe the chance to try out new markets, and he shared some details on that front in the article as well. "We get a lot of requests for Detroit for example ... now we can have an EVOLVE show there and, if we get a good reaction, we can come back with a DGUSA. It opens a lot of possibilities."

Gabe also indicated that we can expect the number of shows between DGUSA & EVOLVE to increase. 2011 saw 15 shows between both promotions, and about 20 are expected for 2012. Now, many might say that's not a huge jump, but it actually represents a 33% increase over the 2011 schedule.

Personally, I think this move can lead to some more success. Attendance was down for most of the year, but it went up with Dragon Gate USA's last weekend of competition. EVOLVE's draw has been atrocious, but the DGUSA connection will likely help that.
Mergers normally don't go well in wrestling, it's normally just a buyout (see the marriage of Vince McMahon and WCW, for example). Other mergers are normally between indies that need to join up for survival. While this merger might be rooted in that, it's a merger that has me more excited about the product, and where they go with it.

You Deicde: Is a DGUSA & EVOLVE merger a good thing for both promotions?



So this is where the Impact Review normally lives. Or, used to live. I haven't stopped watching Impact Wrestling, nor have I given up on TNA. Quite the contrary, I am the new contributor for the 4R's of TNA Impact Wrestling, which Jeremy Thomas publishes on Sundays. So be on the look-out for it, and let me know what you think. I promise to continue on as your only fair & balanced writer when it comes to TNA.







Our own Buggy Nova is in action this weekend, as she has a big rematch with Savannah Riley for Pro Wrestling Bushido. The event takes place at the Fat Cat Music House & Lounge in Modesto, CA.

Here we have dueling promos, as Savannah talks about her first bout with Buggy, and then we get reactions following that bout from Buggy.



Here's a look at her full schedule:

12/4 – Pro Wrestling Bushido (Buggy Nova vs. Savannah Riley), Stockton, CA
12/16 – Insane Wrestling League, Chino, CA
12/18 – Viva La Lucha, San Diego, CA

Find Buggy Nova on Facebook here, here, and here.



Here is Barbi's updated schedule.

12/3 – Texas Wrestling Federation, Seguin, TX
12/4 – Mighty Max Memorial, Taylor, TX (click that link and check it out!)
12/8 – SWWA, Grandview, TX
12/9 – NWA Houston, Cypress, TX
12/11 – Anarchy Championship Wrestling, Austin, TX
12/16 – Texoma Pride Wrestling, Sherman, TX

Barbi's weekend takes her to the TWF, followed by the Mighty Max Memorial, which is a really cool cause. Click the link above for more info. And if you're at those shows, she's bringing merchandise with her!

Find Barbi on Facebook here, and here.



This week on The Greg DeMarco Show, presented by 411Mania.com, Greg and Patrick O'Dowd returned to Tuesday nights to follow-up on the live WWE Smackdown!

The fellas discussed the results of Daniel Bryan's steel cage challenge of World Heavyweight Champion Mark Henry, the remainder of Smackdown's results, follow-up from RAW, and more. Justin Freemyer joined the program to discuss old school wrestling figures (in time for the holidays!). Listen in for 411Mania staff members Tony Acero, Steve Cook, Andy Critchell and a special JoshiMania preview from Ryan Byers.

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In Part One, I shared with you the story of Lingerie Football League player, and recent WWE signee Danielle Moinet. Now, she makes her first appearance as the "&1" Model of the Week!



Get reading!

If you haven't already, go back and read Part 1!


Randle's Wrestling News Experience!
The News from Cook's Corner!
Marsico presents The Wednesday Wire!
Fact or Fiction!
The Wrestling Framework is BACK!
Terra Calaway brings The Hot Stuff!
Kirk's Wrestling Sandwich!

Thus ends an insanely busy week. Thoughts on The Rock, WWE Divas, the Dragon Gate USA-Evolve merger and more! Vote for Maria or Madison in Versus, drop a comment and have a great week! Make sure you're voting for Maria vs. Madison in this section, not in part one.

Until next time...




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Maria

Posted By: Guest#2613 (Guest)  on December 02, 2011 at 11:38 PM

 
 
They're both hot, but I'll go with Maria.

Kaitlyn definitely has the look for Pin-Up Strong. So does Tamina.


Posted By: Dubhagan (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 12:03 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: BenPiper (Registered)  on December 03, 2011 at 12:12 AM

 
 
Kaitlyn will fit in with the Divas of Doom perfectly because she looks like a dude too. In fact she looks more like a dude than both Natalya and Beth combined.

Posted By: Guest#4367 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 12:18 AM

 
 
Madison Rayne, if only because she's such a great heel.

See you at the Rs 8^)


Posted By: the ghost of Buddy Rogers (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 12:44 AM

 
 
Maria
The WWE hasn't built up new stars as well as they could, but that isn't why they are out-classed by the Rock. You have to be born with that kind of charisma.
The booking doesn't help though. As it stands there is one king of the mountain and all others lose to him or at least can't get a clean win. That means that Cena is a cap to any wrestler's popularity. The audience has been told there is one big fish - period.
Hiring low end tv writers doesn't help. Those guys only rehash old storylines anyways. If they had creativity they would be writing for the earlier seasons of a popular show.
I think the smart outside of wrestling hires would be guy who have written for ensemble shows and Marvel (or other superhero teams) comics.
The combination of not allowing wrestlers to show their personalities, low risk tolerance, and iffy writers drags it all down.


Posted By: Guest#2112 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 12:56 AM

 
 
Maria,Danielle,Barbi,Buggy,Kaitlyn,and Santana Garrett FTW!!

Posted By: Mutatron101 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:07 AM

 
 
Maria.

Posted By: armchair theologian (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:11 AM

 
 
maria

Posted By: ojmendez (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:11 AM

 
 
Maria all day long

Posted By: ramone (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:20 AM

 
 
Maria. And two thumbs up for Katie

Posted By: J-Mo (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:21 AM

 
 
Madison

Posted By: mikecheck (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:22 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Ben (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:25 AM

 
 
Madison

Posted By: Guest#1334 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:25 AM

 
 
Maria!

Posted By: Guest#8306 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:30 AM

 
 
WWE has a problem building up new big stars mainly because, in my opinion, they control too many aspects of how their wrestlers look, act, dress, do promos etc. They wanted to make their "superstars" interchangable for various reasons but what that is doing is making none of them truly stand above the rest. Those big stars u mentioned, Austin, Rock, Flair, had personalities that the new group of stars seemingly arent allowed to develop. The one guy who recently has been able to let his character personality develop is Punk and ya see how that turned out. But truthfully this is just a continuation of what he was developing since his indy days. Thats the problem. With the days of instant gratification no one has time to really develop themselves in the WWE and they arent really able to deviate from what theyre told to be.

Maria all day... And thanks for always including non wwe/tna items in your column. Some of us arent just wwe/tna fanboys and actually truly love the sport of professional wrestling. Btw, i say when the demarcettes reach 8, there should be some type of VS to crown the top. They're too damn hot not to do battle


Posted By: SuperCorky (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:35 AM

 
 
VS#2: Both are very hot but I'm going to pick Maria barely over Madison.

Well that was uncalled for.: Good Santana Garrett pics.

3: The Rock outclassed the Rock because his promos are on another level and he is a bigger star than any of them. It doesn't have to do with how WWE built up their stars. I think in the past WWE could have been a lot better in building up stars, but this year it seems like they are more focused on building up the young stars. Dolph, Ryder, Sheamus, Rhodes, and Barrett are just 5 of the younger stars they are have been building up.

2: I think Katlin would be good for the Pin-Up Strong team, and if they needed a 4th member then they can have Tamina join.

1: I think it helps both companies.

IWR: Good to know, it's good to give you more space in your column.

BC#2: Good coverage of Buggy and Barbi and good episode of the SD version of the GDS.

Video-A-Go-Go: Great video, but not as great as the last video he made when they played scrabble.

And 1: Danielle is hot, but not as hot as Kelly Kelly.

LOBSTER HEAD FTW!

Great SUPERSIZED column this week.


Posted By: Still Guest#8287 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:46 AM

 
 
Maria, and it's not even close.

Posted By: Michael (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 02:06 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: frogf (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 02:24 AM

 
 
You say that you're worried that the stars of today aren't getting to the level of people like the Rock, Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, etc. But remember that there were times when these guys were on top and things weren't always that good. Taker was rarely the top guy in the company, Flair became a joke during certain parts of his career, Michaels was on top during a business slump for WWE, etc. I think it is too soon to judge how the current crop of wrestlers will be viewed.

I do think WWE is doing a better job building heels than faces. Most of the guys from Orton to Sheamus to Ziggler were, at least initially, built up as heels. I don't know if this has any long-term implications or not...but it might explain the lack of legitimate faces in the company.


Posted By: JDW (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 02:37 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Vote! (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 03:03 AM

 
 
Madison Rayne all the way, she's fine!

And I'd welcome Kaitlyn to go Pinup Strong. It seems like its Beth & Natalya vs the rest of the Divas division anyway. Hopefully she can learn from those too and start putting on some decent matches.

More 2 part columns & Santana Garrett!


Posted By: SilentOx (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 03:23 AM

 
 
Maria by miles...

Posted By: Bob (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 03:23 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#2189 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 03:42 AM

 
 
I think more than a "little" of the blame lays on creative. If you put Orton, Cena, or Punk in the attitude era, with attitude roles and characters...they draw just as much as anyone.

Posted By: Curtis (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 04:48 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#5552 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 05:24 AM

 
 
Maria ... with legs like that

Posted By: ummm (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 05:26 AM

 
 
Dubhagan: dude, Tamina doesn't have the look of a too pretty man with huge fake breasts...Tamina is just a man. Tamina reminds me more of Chyna.

Posted By: Guest#4247 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 06:19 AM

 
 
FYI: DGUSA and Evolve had 18 combined shows in 2011

Posted By: TJ Hawke (Registered)  on December 03, 2011 at 06:28 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: guest (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 07:18 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#3461 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 07:19 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: General Commenter (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 07:55 AM

 
 
CM Punk, would you please Shut the hell up.

Posted By: Y2J (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 08:17 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#5479 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 08:17 AM

 
 
TNA has more wrestlers I like to watch work, when the insane writer monkeys there let them work. But WWE does a much better job of cycling new people up the card and giving them a chance to get over. Ryder's self-propelled push would never have happened in TNA. Punk would still be in the X-Division.

Kaitlyn would be nice to see teamed with Nattie and Beth. She has a great look, and seems to be learning to wrestle. A nice break from the barbies.

On, and definitely Maria. Easy on the eyes, and I always liked her character. Don't understand the love for Madison.


Posted By: Paul Roma's Uncarriable Jock (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 08:20 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#7862 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 08:35 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Phobia (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 08:53 AM

 
 
Maria.

Kaitlyn fits the pinup strong thing perfectly.


Posted By: Ryan Haseldine (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 09:10 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#2189 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 09:18 AM

 
 
"You'd need a face ready to take over the kid demographic, and the WWE doesn't have that."
If only there was a large Irishman with a surplus of limes getting pushed to the top of the card...


Posted By: Howard (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 09:39 AM

 
 
It's ridiculous Maria isn't already in. Maria.

Posted By: Bobby (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 09:58 AM

 
 
Maria, and it's not even close.

Posted By: The S-Man (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 10:01 AM

 
 
Sort of in a rush posting, so I'll come back, but LOL Maria vs Madison??
I've never really even paid much attention to Maria, but Madison is pretty fugly by any standards.

Also, not sure about Kaitlyn's "weight gain", her, Nattie, and Beth are all hot, just not bone skinny like Kelly Kelly.


Posted By: SS87 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 11:04 AM

 
 
First off, Maria...she's a Chi-town girl and I love me my Chicago area women!

Now to get to the meat of the equation...your two parter regarding the Rock.

Part 1...Are the recent criticisms against the Rock accurate? And that's a bit of a toughie, because it's yes and no here. Yes because he's good for the business bottom line for bringing in more viewers. That's plain enough to see. But at the same time...it's also NO because the Rock does a fanatastic job at burying the rest of the talent. Instead of coming back and being humble, the Rock has gone into "ROCK-mode", so to speak, and pimps up himself making him look like he's still the best damn entertainer out there, and the rest of the talent roster can suck his balls because they're not worthy. There's no humility in the Rock. He's not here to be a part of the talent. He's here to whoop John Cena's ass at WrestleMania 28 and when he's done, that's it, he's gone, unless they pair him off against maybe Orton or Punk for a PPV later. He's not there to help teach, he's there to help promote WM 28, whoop Cena's ass, and then see ya! Not I might be a bit unfair in that assessment, but I'm not, because take Punk's quote from a while ago regarding Rocky...

"It would be great to say the Rock is back, but I haven't met the guy yet as soon as Rock arrives, he goes straight to his dressing room. He's never stopped to say hello or shake my hand." Now I'm not sure if that EXACTLY what CM Punk has said, but that was the jist of it from what I can remember. It's not word for word but it's the thought from Punk in which I'm trying to convey here. So ultimately, the first part of the question, I'd have to say NO to because Rock isn't there to help the talent...it's to get paid.

Now for your part two...Is the WWE failing to create stars of the level of the Rock's magnitude to where they are getting outclassed by the Rock alone? Absolutely they are...and that falls on the heads of the WWE Creative and management for the most part, but it also fails on the talent as well somewhat. Mostly because Creative and management restrict a lot of what the talent can do because they are overscripting the talent to where there is no freedom for the talent to break out and do their own thing or portray themselves the way talent can feel comfortable. Also it's talent's fault for letting them get it that way. And once again, it's the Rock's fault for burying talent. Instead of being humble or talking to talent, teaching them, taking the time out to help instruct the younger guys on how to help get over, he's just seems not even concerned about helping the talent that's there. It's about Rocky getting that glory back.

Bottom line, the Rock might be good in the short run, but long run...no.


Posted By: AGNJoe (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 11:24 AM

 
 
Maria

Personally I think she's hotter than the current batch of divas put together, going from the distinctly average(kelly kelly), the plain bad(eve toress) and the downright ugly(Alicia Fox)

The last one is simply because I think Rihanna is a dog


Posted By: Guest#8248 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 11:31 AM

 
 
Maria ftw.

Posted By: Tom (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 11:31 AM

 
 
Maria....and Danielle looks really nice.

Posted By: Guest#5214 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 11:49 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Daffo (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 12:00 PM

 
 
I don't care what WWE management thinks of kaitlyn, I just need more of her and her sexy thighs on my TV

Posted By: destro (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 12:13 PM

 
 
Maria for certain.

I think Aksana is a better fit for Pin Up Strong. Kaitlyn just has that "goofy good guy" quality that makes her an unbelievable heel.


Posted By: Guest#1766 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 12:33 PM

 
 
Maria!

Posted By: Guest#0124 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:15 PM

 
 
Maria, by a lot

Posted By: Guest#8545 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 01:51 PM

 
 
Awww, shucks, man. Thanks. Glad to be a part of the conversation. As even just an occasional commenter, I know that feedback and confirmation that someone is paying attention can be huge for a writer. Congrats on the new job, and thanks for a consistent, professional column...and for the Santana Garrett pics. That is my kind of dark, natural cutie.

Chalk up a vote for Maria in this Versus. I liked Madison when she was Ashley Lane, but she's become less appealing to me in recent years, for reasons I can't quite put my finger on.

The 3 - there will never be another Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. The will never be another Attitude Era, and WWE and wrestling/sports entertainment may never reach the peaks of the late 90s in terms of ratings, buy rates, ticket or merch sales. Some of that can be attributed to characters & personalities, but not all of it. Can that level of popularity occur in a time of reality shows, DVRs, MMA in the mainstream, streaming video, smart phones, blah, blah, blah, rah-ta-ta-ta? Hell, it was message boards & dial-up the last time wrestling was "cool". Who's the next _____ or declaring new eras are fun exercises for fans, but that's about it. Those guys and days are gone. But the landscape isn't barren. The guys in your graphic, wrestlers coming up like Claudio, Moxley, STEEN...keep letting people who love the business and entertaining do what they do, and if another perfect storm of factors come together as they did during Rock n' Wrestling or the Attitude Era, who knows?

But Vince, or whoever is in charge, will never hesitate to bring a Rock, SCSA or even Hogan back if they think it's good for business. Would you tell a guy, doesn't matter if it's Rocky or Big Sexy, "no thanks", if you thought it would put another dollar in your pocket? I mean, they brought the Hulkster back with Rock, Austin, Angle, HHH and Taker on the roster.

The 2 - more like Pin-up FINE! Really though, as we've already discussed, I don't trust the 'E to give me a cohesive storyline or 3+ star match that features women. So if it gets the uber-sexy Kaitlyn on my TV more often, I'm cool with it. But I'd rather see her (and Nattie, for that matter) wrestling Death Rey, Hamada or Melissa in Shimmer.

The 1 - sure. I find what I've seen of the Sapolsky-booked promotions to be enjoyable (below Chikara and PWG, but about the same or a little ahead of RoH in my personal indy rankings), so if it keeps them more reliably in the public eye, it can't hurt. Narrative cohesion and giving Evolve W-L records some importance (a la the point system to challenge for the Campeonatos de Parejos in Chikara) could also help DGUSA break away from the pack.


Posted By: s1rude (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 02:09 PM

 
 
People are probably gonna flame me for this, but John Cena was well on his way to being able to fill that "void", that Rock is now being brought in to fill, if it hadn't been for WWE Creative.

From "Ruthless Aggression" to the "Doctor of Thugganomics", and even into the initial run on top, Cena's progression was going quite well; he'd developed a real connection with the audience, and his character was evolving at about the pace the audience was taking it.

And then the "Super Cena" nonsense started. Johm Cena went from a organic character that the WWE audience was developing imto WWE Creative's attempt to recreate 1980's "Real American" Hulk Hogan. John Cena was no longer the star that the fans had the "buy in" for, and it's been downhill since.

Not sure about any date, to say that this was the exact point where the WWE lost out on the "next Rock", but June 2005, with the hotshotted move to Raw, is about as good a date as any.

Cena lost all of the nuance and character traits/flaws that the audience loved him for, and folks haven't forgiven the WWE since.

John Cena got his "Rocky Maivia"-moment, just as his star was about to launch, and he's been stuck ever since.


Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 02:14 PM

 
 
also ..... Madison.

Can't stand it when a chic comes off as nothing more than a vapid fish, and that's the vibe I get from Maria.


Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 02:16 PM

 
 
Madison.

Posted By: Guest#1254 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 02:50 PM

 
 
Maria Maria!!!

Also, that Kaitlyn girl looks awesome....you know, for a women's wrestler.


Posted By: GoGoGadget (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 03:00 PM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Elevenseven (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 03:48 PM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#8394 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 04:38 PM

 
 
People are probably gonna flame me for this, but John Cena was well on his way to being able to fill that "void", that Rock is now being brought in to fill, if it hadn't been for WWE Creative.

From "Ruthless Aggression" to the "Doctor of Thugganomics", and even into the initial run on top, Cena's progression was going quite well; he'd developed a real connection with the audience, and his character was evolving at about the pace the audience was taking it.

And then the "Super Cena" nonsense started. Johm Cena went from a organic character that the WWE audience was developing imto WWE Creative's attempt to recreate 1980's "Real American" Hulk Hogan. John Cena was no longer the star that the fans had the "buy in" for, and it's been downhill since.

Not sure about any date, to say that this was the exact point where the WWE lost out on the "next Rock", but June 2005, with the hotshotted move to Raw, is about as good a date as any.

Cena lost all of the nuance and character traits/flaws that the audience loved him for, and folks haven't forgiven the WWE since.

John Cena got his "Rocky Maivia"-moment, just as his star was about to launch, and he's been stuck ever since.

Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on December 03, 2011 at 02:14 PM

Completely agree with that. From Mid 02 to early 04, POSSIBLY mid 05, Cena was really the man, and I actually loved cheering him, but my god they stripped every good compelling aspect of his character away.


Posted By: SS87 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 07:13 PM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: JDMPJM (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 09:21 PM

 
 
Gotta go with the Killa Queen, Madison.

Posted By: Rallo (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 09:53 PM

 
 
Madison Rayne!

Posted By: Guest#4589 (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 09:54 PM

 
 
Madison > Maria

Posted By: JD Nash (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 09:55 PM

 
 
Ave Maria

Posted By: Thrasher (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 11:15 PM

 
 
What, I watched all of that season of NXT. Actually, every episode of the seasons that actually ended. Kaitlyn has a lot of upside, but I'm still pissed off Naomi, who was the best in ring performer, is the one chick they never brought back (aside from the little boy robot that they released). Still, Kaitlyn fits in with the buff broads by nature of a similar build. And lord knows, she needs some direction (and a change in outfits).

Oh, and Maria a thousand times over. She might not have had much in ring skill, but she had personality, and she was cute as a button.


Posted By: G-Walla (Guest)  on December 03, 2011 at 11:16 PM

 
 
Maria, without a doubt.

Posted By: Steve (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 01:21 AM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Haffy (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 02:46 AM

 
 
I like that look of Kaitlyn but I think WWE will have her slim down a bit. Either way she looks good.

The Rock simply is iconic in every aspect in entertainment as a whole. Rock is just able to do something others cannot and while being able to have him do a couple of shows and PPVs, you also run the risk of being counter prouctive to the other "talent". But those other "stars" have had their chance and the result is sagging ratings and less PPV buyrates. The next headliner is out there WWE just has to keep an eye for it.


Posted By: TheR (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 03:03 AM

 
 
Can we put Maria's face on Madisons body?
Think about it....


Posted By: Guest#5338 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 04:45 AM

 
 
maria

Posted By: slicer1997 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 08:29 AM

 
 
Madison. Both hot but Madison has the attitutde thing going

Posted By: Guest#9113 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 08:48 AM

 
 
Madison

Posted By: Jason (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 09:34 AM

 
 
Maria & Kaitlyn.

Posted By: Guest#7794 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 10:12 AM

 
 
Madison Rayne

Posted By: Bros (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 01:13 PM

 
 
madison!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted By: hudpbup (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 03:18 PM

 
 
maria!

Posted By: Guest#0139 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 04:00 PM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#9964 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 04:05 PM

 
 
Maria!!!!!

Posted By: Roberto from Austin (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 04:53 PM

 
 
Madison. And for God's sake, Greg, get off the Rock's dick!

Posted By: Christopher (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 05:28 PM

 
 
Kaitlyn for Pin Up Strong? Maybe.

Kaitlyn for Hall of Bang? FUCK YES!


Posted By: WooHoo (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 05:52 PM

 
 
Madison!!

Posted By: Guest#8226 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 07:38 PM

 
 
I don't like the idea of Kaitlyn being in the Divas of Doom at all. She's nowhere near as good and I like it just being Beth Phoenix and Natalya.

Posted By: WWWYKI17 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 09:26 PM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Velvet Sky (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 09:28 PM

 
 
Marias getting into the hall of bang? Really? Gotta vote for Madison just so it doesn't happen.

I think much of the hate with how Dwayne acts behind the scenes before he becomes The Rock on camera is because other guys come back and don't seem to be douchebags. Lets be honest would The Rock have been so popular without Austin? We will never know but you have to think no, just because they feed off of each other. As fun as his rivalys with HHH were, they were not on the level that Rock and Austin were. We all debate about who was bigger Rock or Austin, and when people think back they always talk about Austin, hell even the deluded WWE put his as the number one star of all time. How does Austin seem to get along with everybody when he is around? How does he act on twitter? Like a normal guy, that isn't posting dumbass "dominate this, dominate that" crap first thing in the morning. He talks with Punk and JR via twitter, even comments on up and comers. The Rock sounds like a douchebag in the back, sure it can be his gimmick, but backstage? On a public twitter? The Rock just continously feeds his own ego, and nobody likes that. And I find it hard to believe a guy out of work is defending The Rocks vigorous work schedule where he is probably being felated in his trailer in between takes for the cinamatic masterpiece that will be G.I. Joe 2. The Rock for all his start power has been in shit movies, and even for action movies most of them have been shit the last few years. In the start Scorpion King, Walking Tall and The Rundown were okay, but since then he hasn't carried a movie by himself, but he acts and talks like he is the greatest thing in Hollywood. How was Faster? Atleast Austin knows he makes shit direct to dvd movies. The guy is a fraud and the current guys don't appriciate it. He may be a legend and all that crap, but when other ledgends show up I get the impression they are happy to be back in the environment, and environment that is actually rather privilaged, not just getting pops to boost their own ego.


Posted By: Guest#5057 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 10:11 PM

 
 
Here's the problem with today's WWE product - the wrestlers are not given any freedom to be themselves.

We look at The Rock as this incredible success story, a man who became a legitimate Hollywood player and transcended the wrestling business itself with his popularity. But The Rock was able to achieve this level of success in part because he was being pushed during a time when things were less controlled, less scripted. One of the things that made the Attitude Era so great was that the talent were basically allowed to make their own characters. If it got over, great. If it didn't, Russo and McMahon would tweak and repackage and figure out some way to use the talent effectively.

Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, Sheamus, etc. are great talents in their own right, and they have gotten over well enough, but they got over in an environment where gimmicks are completely developed by WWE creative and scripts are read word-for-word from cue cards. These guys have no opportunity to be themselves, to find that spark, that diamond in the rough characteristic that creates the next megastar.

Was Steve Austin originally booked to be a star on the level of Hulk Hogan? No, he was a solid midcard hand as The Ringmaster until an unscripted promo at KOTR 96 launched him into the stratosphere. Was The Rock destined to be the star he became? No. He was bland babyface Rocky Maivia who makes today's John Cena seem popular with adult male fans. But they loosened the reigns and let Rocky be himself and *poof*, biggest star ever. If The Rock debuted today, he would be Flex Kavana on NXT Season 5. Think anybody would give a damn?


Posted By: The TradeMark Experience (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 10:19 PM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#7734 (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 10:58 PM

 
 
Maria!!!

Posted By: SC Guy (Guest)  on December 04, 2011 at 11:14 PM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#5291 (Guest)  on December 05, 2011 at 01:25 AM

 
 
Whats kinda depressing is the WWE wants the next Rock, not the next Ric Flair. I'm sure as wrestling fans we would love to see a new Ric Flair, somebody that stays around for years but doesn't get stale, helps redefine wrestling, puts on five star matches(ones that people actually see), gets other guys over while staying popular, and won't jump ship. I see two guys like this CM Punk(duh) and Dolph Ziggler.

Yes there is Dolph bandwagon getting full, but the guy has been in beast mode most of the year. Let him cut some more fastly delivered #heel promos on TV. Remember when he cut his hair early this year and became created wrestler number 5? They almost crushed the guy but he fought it and got it back. I just hope he doesn't get Morrisoned.


Posted By: Guest#0184 (Guest)  on December 05, 2011 at 03:37 AM

 
 
MARIA~!

Posted By: Mark (Guest)  on December 05, 2011 at 04:50 AM

 
 
Mr. De Marco, you are wrong on TNA / WWE. Here's why:

1 - ODB and Jackie attack the pretty women of TNA. Beth and Nataly does the same. Nothing.

2 - Albert Del Rio wins the Rumble loses to Edge at Mania. Nothing. But Robert Rode losing at BFG people we are ready to write TNA off for good.

3 - How about Christian's week long title reign vs James Storm 3 week title reign?

Hell imagine if TNA had the finish to Henry vs Show from the last 2 PPVs? My God the iWC would'implode on itself.

You are being unfair, Mr. De Marco. WWE should not get a free pass. That's unethical.


Posted By: Mike Rodriguez (Guest)  on December 05, 2011 at 09:21 AM

 
 
"It's ridiculous Maria isn't already in. Maria."

Posted By: Bobby (Guest) on December 03, 2011 at 09:58 AM
_________

It's ridiculous I'm not already in Maria.


Posted By: Seriously (Guest)  on December 05, 2011 at 11:28 AM

 
 
MARIA!

Posted By: Guest#5490 (Guest)  on December 05, 2011 at 02:03 PM

 
 
Maria

Posted By: Guest#5450 (Guest)  on December 05, 2011 at 06:48 PM

 
 
Maria!

Posted By: Zig Zag Zach (Guest)  on December 05, 2011 at 06:56 PM

 
 
maria

Posted By: shaggy.canada (Guest)  on December 06, 2011 at 04:44 PM

 


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