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Ask 411 Wrestling 12.14.11: Trish Isn’t God, I Suck, Bret’s Crazy, More!
Hi there, this is Ask 411 Wrestling, I’m Mathew Sforcina, and I’m in a bad mood. Mostly due to work, with a dash of a missing column and a couple other minor issues. Not that it’s stopping me doing this column, just that there is a very slight chance that Grumpy Mathew might be in here. I don’t know if you’ll be able to tell the difference since Grumpy Mathew is basically Normal Mathew with less caffeine in him, but if I appear meaner and less tolerant of morons this week, that’s why.
But hey, I’ve got questions about me in here. I love me!
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Backtalking
Cena being ‘The Future’: OK, slightly bad choice of words. Let me clarify:
You cannot put the big name from the past who can only work one-two times a year, maybe, if he feels like it, over the guy who appears on EVERY SINGLE show you put out and who is the current face of the company.
That clearer?
Muhammad Ali: Ah, right, sorry. I’m clearly not a boxing fan.
Stupid questions: I don’t throw out questions because they are stupid. I need something I can answer in-between obscure backstage issues and tedious match counting.
Your Turn, Smart Guy…
Who am I? I held gold one sole time in the company I currently work for, and one sole reign in the other companies I held gold in. I’ve competed under a hood at one point, as well as in a mixed gender match. I’ve won a title off of CM Punk. And I was retired by a Smackdown superstar (although I’ve had at least one match since then with a Raw superstar. Who am I?
The Diz from New Zealand has it.
Well Matthew…
I held gold one sole time in the company I currently work for – WWE cruiserweight champ, currently am a trainer
and one sole reign in the other companies I held gold in – RoH World champ.
I’ve competed under a hood at one point, as well as in a mixed gender match. – Jamie-San in WCW, and v. Nadia at no Way Out 2004
I’ve won a title off of CM Punk – RoH title.
And I was retired by a Smackdown superstar (although I’ve had at least one match since then with a Raw superstar. – Sheamus retired you, and you’ve fought Tyler Reks.
Who am I? you are Jamie Noble
Who am I? I appeared on Raw this week. I’ve been a world champion, albeit of a company not considered world class. I’ve been managed by 3 different women in my career. Of the three tag teams I’m best known for, one of my partners works for TNA, one for WWE, and one’s on the Indies. A man who once had trouble spelling his own name (sorta), a member of a wrestling gamily, and someone known for their music, I am who?
Questions, Questions, Who’s Got The Questions?
We begin with… Well ok, back a week ago, in my last Ask 411 Games a couple of wrestling questions came up. Now, I don’t accept questions from this column section (I have over 150 pages of questions already) but I do over there… But they are quick, so let’s just get them over with. Guest#3136?
I heard somewhere that Hogan owns the rights to his own gimmick, which is why he can appear in anything he wants. Is that true?
We established this part before, yes, he owns the rights. But he also has a contract with TNA, which does limit him slightly. He can still do anything he likes outside of wrestling, but he can’t appear on WWE Raw next week…
Mr Ace Crusher has an interesting question.
This might be more suited to Ask411 wrestling, but after Austin Aries’ stint as ‘Jacob Cass’ in WWE 12, does that help, hinder, or have absolutely no effect on his future employment opportunities with the WWE?
I would say no effect on the basis that Aries has been working with THQ on WWE games for a while now. He and Claudio did motion capture work in the past, indy guys often make some cash doing the tedious motion capture work for the famous wrestler’s moves. There’s a step away from WWE where guys who would never work for WWE can and do work for other people working on WWE products. Like how Warrior has WWE figures, and how Savage is now in the games after All Stars.
Now yes, doing voice work is not the same as doing mocap. And I’m sure if Aries ever gets to WWE, they’ll probably end up calling him Jacob Cass and run a angle out of it, but having done it doesn’t really impact, no pun intended, his chances. THQ hired him. The fact he’s an indy guy was irrelevant to WWE, THQ just provided the talent.
Joshua asks about the original plans.
So I want to ask you about this past Summer of Punk story line. Somehow I do not believe CM Punk becoming the #3 Babyface in WWE was the original plan. During his shoot on Monday Night Raw back in June, he lashed out against the fans as well. Talking about them shoving the programs in his face to sign at the airports and what not. So when did then plans change? Was it the positive reaction he got from this shoot interview, do you think it was the Money in the Bank ppv where he was the hottest thing in the building? I’m thinking originally he was going to be a heel to fight John Cena but ended up becoming a face. Do you think the reason that Alberto the River is the WWE Champion right now is because Punk went face? Had Punk stayed heel do you think he’d be WWE Champion heading into Survivor Series?
This was sent a bit before Survivor Series, obviously.
I can’t find a credible source here, but I would suspect that Punk ending up face was largely due to his return with the Title belt. They knew heading into MITB Punk would be cheered out of the building, given the whole “it’s in Chicago” thing. But then when they felt they had to go with Cena/Punk for Summerslam…
And Punk got a bigger reaction than Cena, they had to make him the Anti-Hero. Of course, it might have been the plan all along, but that requires WWE to realise that by giving Punk an open mic he’d get over like gangbusters. Now, that’s true, but that’s more self-awareness than you’d equate with WWE as a rule. This is the same company that had Cole rip on Howard Finkle at Survivor Series for goodness sake.
So for them to realise that Punk can get over as a face by shooting… Nah, I don’t buy it.
But if anyone has a pinpoint, by all means call me a moron below.
Ron Martin says hi!
Hey Mathew,
Greetings from the red-headed stepchild of Ask411 columns, Ask 411 Music! Hey, I got a handful of questions that have popped into my head. Split them up, answer them a year apart, do what you got to do, but I dont think they’re too strenuous.
Hey, you helped me out with DJ Gregory so I’ll do my best here.
I was watching the four way tag team ladder match where Joey Mercury’s face got ripped off. I think it’s from 2005, but I’m not sure. Obviously that wasn’t planned. It seems like everyone does a pretty good job of improving when Mercury is taken out of the match, but the ending was a little weird with Kendrick (or maybe it was London — I can’t remember off the top of my head) just punching Matt Hardy down and grabbing the titles with Nitro on the next ladder. Any idea of the ending of the match being changed on the fly due to the absence of Mercury? Maybe having experience in the ring you can see something about it I can’t.
Yes the injury is a little gruesome. But then you have JBL on commentary, which is near the top of my mythical “Best uses for a guy in Wrestling history” list. So watch it.
Anyway, as for the match ending being changed, I don’t have any info on MNM winning or anything like that, but it is possible that the finish was set to have a three way climb or something, or some sort of spot with Mercury. However, I honestly have to say that I suspect it was meant to be that way but it just didn’t get pulled off as planned thanks to people being thrown by Mercury. But the basic idea (London gets a few seconds to himself and gets the belts as everyone else closes in) was probably legit, the execution was just a smidge off.
Besides, I think if the ending was radically altered Regal and Taylor, as the vets, would have been involved more.
Why wasn’t there a big storyline when Mercury came back? It seems like if somebody gives up their face for the company they should at least get a decent fued out of it, or am I just remembering incorrectly and there was some sort of blow off?
No, there was an angle.
After a couple weeks, Mercury came back and began to wrestle with a protective mask, as MNM went after the Hardys, trying to injure them, trying to disfigure them as badly as they had done with him. MNM and The Hardyz had a tag match at the 2007 Royal Rumble…
Followed by a 6 man at No Way Out with MVP and Benoit tossed in to end the feud. So there was an angle.
Totally unrelated, Undertaker has defeated the same opponent twice on three different occasions at Wrestlemania (Kane, Shawn Michaels, Triple H). The only other person that’s beat the same guy twice at Wrestlemania that I can even think of is Mr. T, who beat Roddy Piper at I and II. Is there any that I’m missing. Tag and multi person matches count, as well as DQ and CO wins.
Sure there are. Austin and Rock for starters. XV and X-7.
Edge and Christian won both TLC0 at WM2000 and the TLC at WMX-7 over both Hardys and the Dudleys.
Also, by including multi man matches, then you open up the wonders of MITB. And that gives you a bunch. CM Punk holds two wins over MVP and Shelton Benjamin with his two MITB wins. That’s all off the top of my head. Readers?
Axl From Paris has a couple questions.
Hey Mat,
I’ve been reading your column for ages, thanks a lot for your great work! I’m French, and I have a wrestling website here, it’s very popular by French standards, and you have a lot of fans here. You can check it out here: http://www.lescahiersducatch.com/site
Well, yes, it’s in French.
Anyways, I have a question regarding Steel Cage Matches in WWE. When was the last time when a wrestler won a Steel Cage Match by simply walking out the door? It seems that these matches are always won by pinfall, submission or climbing out of the cage, even if the easiest way seems to be to just walk out from the cage once your opponent is down…
Well that was how it was done in the old days, Bob Backlund was the master of it.
That said, I am probably going to be wrong on this, but the last one I recall is cheating slightly since the whole match was built around walking out. Anderson V Angle, TNA Lockdown 2010.
Now, if you want to talk about a cage match where it was just an option that was used… Ah, actually, found it (I hope). And it’s more current. Orton V Barrett V Sheamus, 1/3/11 Raw.
So that’s the one there.
Dan In Maryland has a couple questions.
Hello there. I’m a long time reader and I enjoy your column. I have a few questions that I was wondering if you could help me figure out.
1. In 1991, they had a lot of matches during the summer with Hulk Hogan teaming with the Ultimate Warrior to take on Sgt. Slaughter, General Adnan, and The Undertaker. How come this match wasn’t the main event at Summer Slam ’91? It would have built up the Hogan/Undertaker match at Survivor Series that year and it would have allowed the Warrior some revenge on the Undertaker after the incident on the Funeral Parlor with Paul Bearer.
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A lot? That match happened exactly twice. March 26 and March 27.
And it only happened then as a beginning for the Warrior/Taker feud that really went through most of the Summer. During which Warrior won most of the matches to get his revenge. Besides, having Taker lose, even a tag match, in the lead up to his title match which was being sold on him being undefeated is a little self-contradictory.
Basically the Summerslam match was more to kill the Slaughter/Iraq thing for good, allowing both Hogan and Warrior to move onto Taker and Roberts respectively, and, probably, begin a Megapowers 2.0 idea, wherein they could have the 4 work tag matches all the time. Having Taker in the match just makes his feud with Hogan weaker. Unless you want Taker to go over. Which doesn’t kill off Slaughter.
… I’m not sure if I’m making myself clear here, but suffice to say, it was a one off match early in the year that was more to set up a long term feud that was over by the time Summerslam was around.
2. In Bret Hart’s autobiography, he mentions that he was disappointed that the Ultimate Warrior was fired in November ’92 and that his visions of facing Warrior at WrestleMania IX and putting him into the sharpshooter had vanished. Was Warrior/Bret the original idea for WrestleMania IX?
Not at all. That’s just Bret’s imagination getting away from him. Hart V Warrior was NEVER on the cards.
And last but not least,
3. How come Yokozuna was left off the Summer Slam ’94 card? He was still one of the hottest heels in the WWF at the time. He had only just lost the WWF title to Bret Hart at WrestleMania X and he would have been a great addition to that card in Chicago.
Thanks, as always for taking the time to answer all of our questions.
Because they wanted to sell the fact that Yokozuna was afraid of the Undertaker. On an edition of the Heartbreak Hotel, Cornette came out and said: …the reason Yokozuna had no match signed for Summer Slam was because there was no competition for him – not because the Undertaker was on the card.
And given that there were two of them, no thank you. But yeah, it seems odd now, but they wanted to sell the concept of Yokozuna being scared of Taker, so they removed him from a PPV to sell another.
And support something.
James is all over the shop.
1. Champions have a rematch clause in their contracts however there is a flaw in this system. Example: Cena v HHH for title, Cena wins HHH gets rematch because of rematch clause and he regains the title now doesnt the former champ get a rematch due to the same said clause?
Normally yes. The rules, as they have laid out, say that a champ gets a rematch against the new champion. So, conceivably, you could have two people trading the belt indefinitely. (Which would be an interesting angle, actually. Two heels keep trading the belt to keep it away from everyone else…). But there are ways around it.
You can say that one wrestler, either out of confidence or oversight, does not have this clause (like they did with JBL after Cena won the title). You can say that the rematch occurred at a live event and so is used up (that’s how they avoided having to run Santino/Regal matches outside of Europe). Or you can have the authority figure overrule the clause, stating that X has had too many, or that there is a #1 contender that deserves a crack first. There’s plenty of ways around it.
2. I love it when Autisn or Rock would mess wiht the cameramen it always makes me laugh. My question is are these camermen warned, are all staff put on notice that at any moment then can be picked on or is it rehearsed?
It’s rehearsed. The wrestlers need to know how to handle and use the equipment, and you’ll notice the wrestlers tend to get the cheaper, less nice stuff. Go watch the first Hell in a Cell, and you’ll notice that the video from the camera man who gets nailed is much less nice than the proper video. They aren’t about to risk the high end, expensive equipment to a wrestler. Every camera spot is carefully planned out prior.
3. Cena, Orton, HHH, Rock, the same reasons that you could hate these guys can also be the reason that you like them. Are things like this planned for example I once wrote in and asked about why orton was given so many chances after messing up and the answer I got was that vince wanted you to hate orton so that he could be built up and liked.
Sometimes. You do find that heels end up getting cheered as so end up face, sure. And sometimes it’s planned. But sometimes it’s not. It’s a case of the heel being built up to be a badass usually. JBL was never in danger of ending up a hero. But a guy like Orton, who’s violent and over the top and such, he’s a cool guy, so he gets cheered, and so ends up a face.
Booking wrestling is an art, in that sometimes you can lead the fans to a result you planned, but sometimes you just have to follow them. WWF built up Austin as a heel, but the fans loved him, so they turned him. They never intended for Austin to be a face, the fans forced it.
It’s not a simple rule, it’s more about context and if you can lead or just have to follow the fans.
4. What ever happened to story lines when it comes to introducing new belts or redesigned belts? When TNA split with the NWA the crappy way they introduced the Belt IMO caused it to lose value.
Well to be fair, TNA got blindsided on that one. It was their own fault, given that they were flaunting the rules that they had agreed to when they signed up, they were changing the belt whenever they wanted and they weren’t having the champ travel around, but still, when it happened, TNA wasn’t that prepared for the occurrence, so they had to scramble.
But as for storylines, there’s only so many ways to go. They either begin as a wrestler’s vanity item that becomes legit, or it comes from the office and starts off legit. There’s only so much you can do, there’s not THAT many angles to run.
And don’t get me started on redesigned belts. That should be the prerogative of heels, and even then it shouldn’t be permanent.
*rants silently for hours about the bloody Spinner belt.*
5. This is kind of a continuation from the previous question but what is the deal with striping titles from wrestlers b/c of injury when it could be used as a storyline. Example when Cena tore his peck Vince stripped him and that was that. That was a waste f a great storyline. Not to mention that technically him and Orton never finished that feud but hey what do I know.
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And do what, exactly? What storyline are they missing there? Cena was injured. The guy could not wrestle. Full stop.
Look, I’m the first to rag on a guy for dropping a title to get out of a job, but there’s a difference between HBK’s “Knee Injury” and Cena tearing his muscle off the bone. If a guy is injured, he’s injured, and he should not be forced into a match. That means, if he’s holding a title, he has to be stripped of it. It’s certainly not the ideal solution, sure. But you are limited in these circumstances.
It’s back to wrestling booking again. You can have as many awesome storylines in mind, but Real Life WILL fuck them up. Guys get injured, they quit, fans go the wrong direction, stuff happens. If you’re too rigid and set in your ways, the moment something goes wrong you’re screwed. You have to be flexible, you have to be able to adjust and change if needed. And sometimes, that means a title has to be stripped to keep it active while a guy is out.
Now yes, ideally when the injured guy comes back you have a ready made feud ready. “I want my title back, bitch!” and so forth. But again, felxablity, sometimes by the time the guy comes back, the company has changed, people have turned face or heel, and you have to go another way. It’s not ideal, sure, but it’s what’s gotta happen.
6. Besides her being hot what was it about Trish Stratus that made her get so much props she IMO is/was not on the level of Chyna or Madusa(who I feel is the greatest woman wrestler ever)
Well given that it’s subjective no two answers will be the same. But let’s take a look at the one man to put Trish at the top of his list in 411mania’s Top 5 Women’s Wrestlers…
Julian Bond: Is Trish Stratus the best women’s wrestler based off of her in-ring work? No. Are Trish Stratus’ matches the best amongst all women wrestlers? Probably not. But if one was to take a snapshot of Trish’s overall WWE career to show an example of how women’s wrestling should be done on a good legit basic level (i.e. to the mainstream and not just us crazy fans), with just enough atheletism (diversity of moves, constantly good match pacing) and entertainment (the natural “T&A”, cool looking spots) shown in the ring without sacrificing either one, it would be the perfect shot to take. Trish is to me akin to someone like the Rock or Stone Cold Steve Austin. To many hardcore fans, Rock and Austin may not be able to hold a candle in the ring to more technical and “Match of The Year regular” bad-asses like Bryan Danielson and Nigel McGuinness. But it can be argued that Rock/Austin were able to successfully entertain the masses (which means people like my grandma and dad who do not watch wrestling and not just hardcore fans like ourselves) much more than Danielson and McGuinness could do, while also putting on a great overall match. In comparison, Trish is the same when compared to known “better” women wrestlers like Awesome Kong and Sara Del Ray. Not all of her matches were the best, but Trish always knew how to play to the crowds and you can tell that she was seriously always trying to put on a great show to whomever was watching. She first came in as a true novice in the ring with her work, worked her way up to winning the WWE Women’s Title a whopping 7 times, which is the most in WWE history (!!!), and gained INSANE amounts of popularity from the fans not just for her crazy hot looks but also for her in-ring work, and she succcessfully went out in an excellent way by winning the title one last time in her hometown of Toronto as she retired gracifully in the ring. What other women wrestler can said that about their own career?
Which was not reviewed favourably by some commentators. But then some commentators didn’t spot that I had the same woman in all 5 spots of my list. So whatever.
Anyway, Trish gets the respect, it seems, because she was the woman who was the face of the women wrestlers during the recent era, where women went from being nothing more than eye candy to actually decent wrestlers, on the main stage, to the general public, in the major leagues. And also the fans saw her progression, we saw her evolve from the blonde bimbo…
To a woman who could wrestle.
To the point where her reign as the WWE Women’s Champion lead to her and Lita main eventing Raw.
Now, should she deserve this praise? It’s a question that’s hard to answer. It’s a case of if you believe that ability is more important than achievement or not. Trish Stratus has done more for women’s wrestling than most any other woman in the modern era, in terms of gaining respect and improving people’s attitudes. But she’s not, honestly, the best wrestler around. She achieved a great deal, but she’s not the best ‘wrestler’. So it comes down to which you value more, pure talent or actual achievement? And I can’t answer that for you.
7. Last but not least why when it comes to greatest moonsaults Kurt Angle is never mentioned? I know that the Great Muda was great but I have yet to see someone do it as fluid as Angle.
Thanks
Because he rarely uses it, hits it even more rarely, and has a somewhat bad track record with injuries from it.
Dave has a simple question that isn’t that simple.
I was just wondering how many and which wrestlers have won both the WWF/E title and the Big Gold Belt.
I want to go beyond just the World Heavyweight Championship as it debuted on Raw and was handed to Triple H by Bischoff and I don’t count the 2 times Benoit “won” the title only to have the decisions reversed. I also don’t want to count the “Undisputed” reigns since those were obviously both titles at the same time. Thanks.
Well see now you say that, but the Big Gold Belt has a complicated history.
It debuted in 1985, as created by Jim Crockett Promotions, in order for Flair to hold it as the NWA World Champion.
Then in 1991, it becomes a combined title to represent both the NWA World Title and the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. Well, apart from a couple months where Tatsumi Fujinami was the NWA Champion and the Big Gold Belt only represented the WCW World Title.
And then Ric Flair leaves the NWA to head to WWF, taking the title with him.
And then, eventually, the deal was sorted out, and WCW got the Big Gold Belt back, where it represented the NWA World Title, while the WCW World Title remained the belt that was designed to fill the gap after Flair left.
But then in 1993, the NWA and WCW split up, and WCW kept the title, where it became the WCW International World Heavyweight Championship until it was unified with the WCW Title, at which point Big Gold became the title until WCW went under.
After WWF bought out WCW, it kept going as the WCW World Title, and then was just the ‘World Title’ for a month until it was unified with the WWF Title into the Undisputed.
And then it was revived to become the current World Title.
So in all that… Who has held that title and the WWF Title? Well, let’s go from the top and work down. Who held the title in each time period and was also WWF/WWE Champion?
NWA World Title: 1985-1991
Ric Flair
WCW World Title/NWA World Title: 1991
Ric Flair
NWA World Title: 1991: 1993
Ric Flair
WCW International World Heavyweight Championship: 1993-1994
Ric Flair
WCW World Heavyweight Championship: 1994-2001
Ric Flair
Hulk Hogan
The Giant
Randy Savage
Kevin Nash
Bret Hart
Sid Vicious
(WWF) WCW Championship: 2001
Kurt Angle
The Rock
Chris Jericho *
WWE World Heavyweight Championship: 2002-
Triple H
Shawn Michaels
Randy Orton
Batista
Kurt Angle
Rey Mysterio
The Undertaker
Edge
CM Punk
Chris Jericho *
John Cena
Jeff Hardy
Kane
(Note: * = WWF title reign occurred only as Undisputed Champion.)
So the combined list is…
Batista
Bret Hart
Chris Jericho *
CM Punk
Edge
Hulk Hogan
Jeff Hardy
John Cena
Kane
Kevin Nash
Kurt Angle
Randy Orton
Randy Savage
Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Sid Vicious
The Giant
The Rock
The Undertaker
Triple H
My Damn Opinion
Ron Martin is back.
Last but not least, is it possible to bring back the old Superstars format. You know, mostly jobber showcase matches with maybe one or two featured matches a card to put the emphasis on PPV or specials (Saturday Night Main Event) matches. Would it be possible in this day and age to actually make that format successful again. It would make matches like Ziggler vs. Kofi on a PPV actually mean something because they haven’t already fought 15 times on TV. I’m thinking it may be impossible to retain an audience that radically.
Thanks for the time!!
I’m not sure, to be honest. You’d have to suck it up big time in the short term, as a lot of people would complain, loudly and repeatedly, that the show sucks now, and that you can’t put on a wrestling program like that nowadays. But then, maybe, over time, it’d subside and then, if it was coupled with an improvement in the abilty to sell the PPV, you might see an improvement.
But no one thing is going to magically cure the woes here. Yes, it makes sense to use the WWE roster better (you have all these jobbers floating around the C shows, why not use them for quick jobs rather than book BS endings all the time?), but merely changing the format without addressing the fundamental flaws is deckchair realignment on the Titanic.
If WWE wants to improve it’s PPV sales, it needs to make the PPVs mean something, and that means selling the matches, not the storylines. The matches only happen once, the storylines continue the next night. But that’s easier said than done now…
Axl from Paris is also back.
And for the “Opinion” column: don’t you think that WWE should just lock that damn door from the outside? Just decide that, in order to win, you must either pin or submit your opponent, of climb out, but the door is locked, you just can’t get tell the ref to open it. If they did so, there would not be all these awkward moments when wrestler A stumbles for years instead of just going out. Therefore, we wouldn’t have to suspend our disbelief so high every time…
Thanks a lot in advance, and keep up the great work!
I think that you need consistency. The original logic in WWF, as we discussed, was that you beat your opponent so badly that you could walk out calmly. If they went back to that, then it might make more sense. But they don’t.
Now, yes, if they want to lock the door, fine by me, although you’re then screwed if you have a big fat pussy heel, but then again that’s unlikely. I don’t think the door ruins the match, it’s just that the storylines aren’t used properly. The heel should, the second the bell rings, run for the door. Have the face cut them off and begin the shine, then you either have the heel get cocky (I’ll continue to beat you since you’re dead now) or have the face play desperately (Why is it every time I go to leave you grab my foot you bastard?). Either way, the fact that there’s an easy way to win should be addressed. The whole “God I’m tired” thing can be overdone, certainly. But there’s ways around it, if they put their minds to it.
But I’m sure most people would disagree with me on that.
Oh no, I have another question! I read the article Byers wrote about your show in Australia. I was wondering why your team is called Mass Transit? Is it a nod to the infamous Mass Transit incident, when New Jack almost killed that poor kid?
Thanks!
God no. We have no connection to Eric Kulas. The name’s simply based on the fact that I’m Massive and he’s Traffic. So we’re Mass Transit. Our tag team finisher, the sidewalk slam/elbow drop, that’s called the Rush Hour now, since I just decided that. And I’m working on a submission to be called Gridlock.
Not that anyone will ever notice, but I will find them amusing. That’s the main thing.
Aaron didn’t expect an answer.
Long time reader, first time sender. This question is purely opinion. How did it feel to bump for Chewbaca and get pinned by Fat Mamma? By the way, did some looking back and I loved the whole Jerk stuff you were doing.
And you don’t have to seriously answer this.
I answer everything that won’t get me in legal trouble.
And sadly he’s referring to a very old video of me… Well, I might as well.
Now, to be fair, that was back when I sucked.
You suck now!
Quiet you.
Anyway, that was the day after I turned heel for the first time, and neither the guy in the suit nor Ms. Momma were trained so honestly I was just glad I got out of the match without hurting anyone. Although it was better later on that day when Flash Gordon gave me a bunch of chair shots.
And I liked the Jerk stuff, but had to end it when someone stole the shirt. Bastards.
And on that downer ending, I will say goodbye for now. See you all next week. If you’re good.
