News From Cook's Corner 12.20.11
Posted by Steve Cook on 12.20.2011
Daniel Bryan wins the big one, Kevin Nash steps aside, John Cena likes Fruity Pebbles, and more!
Hi, hello and welcome to News From Cook's Corner! I'm Steve Cook, and I hope you're having a great week. Not only are we five days away from Christmas, but the winds of change are blowing. Big things are happening, and I'm not going to be one of the people that are left behind. Lots of interesting things happening in the wrestling ring. Outside…eh, not so much. So this column's only ten pages this week. I know, I know. I'll try and make up for it next week.
Not a great fantasy football week. If you had Drew Brees you were winning. I had him in one league and was going against him in two others. So I'm down to one chance at winning a fantasy football championship this season. I realize that I am one of about three people that cares about me winning a fantasy football championship, but this is the stuff I spend most of my time thinking about. Basically, I'm thinking about fantasy football or women 24/7, with the occasional interlude with Louisville basketball or Reds baseball, which only comes up this time of year when they make bad trades or let somebody good leave.
Oh, and one of my losses was to Jeff Small. This is completely and utterly unacceptable, and I hang my head in shame. OK, done with that. On to the column!
lol that woman's wrestling company using an old wwe woman's championship - Guest#0305
At least they're not using a Divas title replica. Indy companies using WWE-inspired title belts is nothing new, I think half of the indy groups out there use a replica of the late 90s-early 00s version of the Winged Eagle title belt as their championship. Most of the ones that aren't WWE replicas look pretty shabby. Considering where WILD is in the scheme of things, I don't have a problem with their title belt. If they start to expand and have success running shows and things like that, perhaps they could change things around then, but for now it's fine.
RE: The Asylum
NBC has signed a deal with boxing promoter Main Events and will be broadcasting at least 4 fights on NBC Sports/Versus at the Asylum in 2012.
So even if there's going to be a focus on concerts, if they can host boxing, they can do wrestling. - King Tonga
The Asylum Arena's website is teasing that the January 21 card will be the final boxing card at the arena. I've seen that NBC was scheduled to have four cards at the arena in 2012, but perhaps that changed when the ownership of the arena changed. I've seen reports of a card being scheduled for March as well. I guess we'll have to stay tuned.
I can tell you from my days of living in Atlanta that it is almost impossible to get pulled over for speeding. I had a job working the SE and drove all over. On the highways around ATL I drove in the 90's and was passed like I was walking. I red lined my engine (sports coupe) driving to other parts of the state and was never pulled over. Lita must have been doing some crazy driving to get a Georgia cop to even blink. - Guest#0185
There's a joke here about women & driving that I probably should stay away from.
Kharma is still pregnant, and would need at LEAST 4-6 weeks of recovery time after having the child. She just left in May, February or March would be her earliest possible return date. And really, anybody that wants Awesome Kong back over Jericho isn't much of a wrestling fan. - Jerichoholic
Kharma makes the Divas division approximately 16 times better. It's not that I don't want Jericho back, I just want his return to actually be a surprise. Sure, he tries really hard on Twitter to act like he's not coming back and he doesn't care about wrestling anymore, but nobody buys it. Jericho's usually great at working people, but his Internet gimmick has totally been exposed. He tries too hard.
Shame you wouldn't think Austin Aries would be a good fit. He's a natural character as a slimy heel. Due to his size he'd be unlikely to break the glass ceiling (wait until Danielson does) but he'd be awesome at the IC/US title level. Samoa Joe also has a friend in a higher place, one John Cena. If Cena couldn't convince McMahon to hire Joe, Punk and Austin would have a negligible effect. - Guest#0532
I forgot about the Cena/Joe connection, which predates Joe's friendship with Punk & Austin's love of him. I honestly expected Joe to go to WWE the last time his TNA contract expired, but I guess he was made an offer that he couldn't refuse. As for Aries, it's basically the height thing and the fact that he was turned down for Tough Enough earlier this year. I still don't get that call, but something tells me that if he couldn't even make it on Tough Enough, WWE won't be beating down his door anytime soon even with the good run he's had in TNA. He is a damn good heel though.
Doctor Who can wear a bow tie and make it cool. Alfalfa can wear a bow tie and make it passible. Otunga...he needs the BA Star campain so the other rasslers' don't pick on his Carlton arse! Seriously, what can this guy do but make everything look bad! He can' wrestle with a darn and rockin the bow tie ain't happening...(Hey Rog & Duane!) Don't ya think that Vinnie is only keeping him around cause he's bangin Hudson? - Lord Keedik
David Otunga's actually been growing on me since he started doing the lawyer gimmick. He's found a personality that works for him and showcases the charisma that everybody insisted he had when he was on NXT. I don't think he'll ever be a tippy-top guy, but he can be a solid mid-card act for the next several years that gets good heat. I also think his in-ring work is getting better, or at least enough so that he doesn't have bad matches with people now.
Of course you didn't expect the Bengals to go the playoffs. No one ever does. - Guest#2763
I can't really argue this. It should be noted that with the Jets & Titans losing this week, the Bengals haven't been eliminated from postseason contention just yet. I think the Jets have the inside track on the bid, but
Hey Cook sorry to bug you about this but it's been six months. Are you any closer to fixing the 2011 Hot 100? - mannik
I completely forgot about this, but I will promise to you guys that I will get the pictures put back into the system within the next week or so. Part of it was waiting for 411's server to stop spitting pictures out like it was doing at the time, and it seems like they've finally got it figured out. So I'll find some time this week to fix that up, though honestly that list is so outdated now it's absurd. Some big names around here not on that list. Weird stuff.
I'm gonna go out of left field with this one...what if the It Begins Again videos aren't for Taker, Jericho, or even Kharma? My pick? Skip Sheffield. You heard it here first. - Jason King
I'm a big Skip fan, but he'd be a bit of a letdown as the mystery man. He did make some interesting tweets over the weekend teasing…something. I'm not sure what. Nevertheless, Skip is on his way back, and if he continues in the direction he was heading before his injury, he'll be a solid addition to whichever show he ends up on.
And now, the fake news!
There are a lot of things I could lead with, but those of you familiar with my work know that I have to start things off with the World Title victory of Daniel Bryan. It was decided that Mark Henry had to lose the title due to physical ailments that have rendered him unable to compete on a regular basis for the time being. He reportedly suffered a severe groin pull during his match with John Cena, and if you saw his match with Big Show on Sunday you saw that he wasn't moving around all that well. So Vince McMahon made the call to take the title off of Mizark, and to move it to Bryan.
Most inside the business that have publicly commented seem happy that Bryan is champion. Gabe Sapolsky was so happy that he took credit for everything that Bryan & CM Punk have done in their wrestling careers. There is one notable exception...Batista:
"excuse me! did i hear that right? Daniel Bryan World Heavyweight Champ. ummmmmmm.....ok."
"so to clear up any misunderstanding about me hating on Daniel Bryan...actually i've been a supporter of his for years,unlike most of you Johnny come lately smart mark supporters. we actually had a hell of a match together that was originally supposed to be a squash match until this old broken down ex bodybuilder who never deserved to be champion and only had it handed to me because HHH was my boy...refused to job the kid out because i knew how good he was and wanted to have a f--king match with him before i left the company. and a hell of a match we had considering where our respective places in the company were at the time. so yes im aware of all of his accomplishments and hard work through out the years and i'm thrilled to death for him....but still...World Heavyweight champ???ummmmmmm...ok. opinions are like assholes. my Twitter account,my opinion. and to all the b---h ass haters who just dogged me out and b---hed about how horrible i was.....i've worked with HHH, the Undertaker,Rey Mysterio,Randy Orton Stone Cold,Edge,John Cena,Chris Benoit,Ric f--king Flair!!etc.etc.. and they all respected me and my work. Eddie Guerrero respected my work. so don't expect your little bulls--t remarks to actually carry any weight. in your b---h ass faces!!"
OK, there's a lot of stuff there. So I'll sum it up in a few bullet points.
-Bryan's too small to be a heavyweight champ
-Internet fans hate Batista and he doesn't like it
-He worked with a bunch of good wrestlers
-What the haters say doesn't matter, even though he spent several tweets complaining about what they were saying
I haven't ruled out the possibility that Batista's working an online feud with Bryan to lead up to his comeback on January 2. John Cena's going to be busy with Kane and then the Rock, so dude needs an opponent! Either Batista's coming back soon or he's one of the most bitter ex-wrestlers that has absolutely no reason to be bitter. I'm hoping he returns to challenge Bryan.
Hell, I have no idea how Bryan's title reign's going to go. He might not even be champ after Tuesday the way WWE likes to book things. All I know is that one of my favorite wrestlers has finally climbed to the top of the mountain, and no matter what happens now he can always say he's a former WWE World Champion. Lots of Bryan's fans from back in the day have whined and complained about how he's been used in WWE, and there were some moments where I wasn't so sure about it. But right now, on December 20, 2011, Daniel Bryan is your World Champion. And I have a hard time caring about what could happen. I'm happy to live in the now, and enjoy the champions we now have.
"If you can't get behind this, you will be left behind." - CM Punk
Trent Howell said it on the Offtheteam.com Forum, and it bears repeating here…this is one of the most IWC-friendly groups of WWE champions ever. Most of us think CM Punk is tremendous. Most of us are rooting for Daniel Bryan. Most of us like how Zack Ryder used social media to get himself over. Most of us think Cody Rhodes is a great heir to the Rhodes legacy. Most of us think Beth Phoenix is the best pick among the Divas to hold that title. Most of us think Air Boom is fun to watch. Basically, WWE has taken all of their championships and given them to people that we like.
So if it doesn't work, it's all out fault. I'm not sure I like having this kind of pressure on me, but whatever. I'll roll with it.
John Cena is being featured on boxes of Fruity Pebbles as part of a contest WWE is running in affiliation with Post Cereals. I hope Cena & WWE are cutting The Rock in on the money they're getting off of this, as you know this probably doesn't go down unless Rock repeatedly calls Cena a Fruity Pebble. I don't think there's a joke left about how Cena's next endorsement deal will involve lady parts, as they've all been used.
WWE is now selling an anti-John Cena t-shirt. Randle couldn‘t find a picture of it yesterday because he‘s a roody poo. I am not a roody poo, so here‘s a picture:
Cena said on Twitter that WWE's been asking him if they could sell an anti-Cena shirt since 2008, and he had resisted until now. He says he feels disrespected by the shirts, but I have a feeling he'll change his tune once the royalty checks start to roll in. It's pretty ingenious by WWE...what better way to stick it to people that don't like Cena than having Cena make money off of shirts proclaiming that he sucks? They'll buy the shirts and chant "Cena Sucks" at the shows without knowing that they're the reason John Cena is WWE's biggest draw.
Kevin Nash's match with Triple H at TLC is expected to be his last with the company. WWE has written him out of storyline with injury, and Nash thanked H on Twitter for his last match. Not a bad match for Nash to go out on...this WWE run didn't live up to peoples' hopes, but expectations may have been a bit high for Big Kev. It'll be interesting to see if this really is Nash's last match, or if we'll see him pop up somewhere else in 2012. I never consider a wrestler fully retired as long as they're physically capable of putting on their gear.
Nash draws a variety of opinions from wrestling fans. Some people think he's the devil incarnate, a lazy SOB that never had good matches. He was WWF Champion for a year, but his reign didn't do anything for business. He got a sweetheart deal with WCW, then helped to slowly kill the company via backstage politics. He came back to WWE and slogged his way through a bad feud with Triple H, then he went to TNA and did nothing to help that company either. Then he finally came back to WWE for this run, where all he did was interfere in CM Punk's title match and cut some bad promos. To these people, Kevin Nash stepping aside is a good thing that should have happened sometime around a decade ago.
Big Sexy also has plenty of fans that think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. He was a funny SOB that provided tons of entertainment wherever he went. He was one of the forces behind the New World Order, a supergroup that helped change wrestling and lead it into its boom period in the late 1990s. He held multiple world championships and main evented countless PPVs that got buyrates that WWE would kill for today. Sure, he didn't do anything for TNA's business, but those Paparazzi Productions videos were hilarious. To these people, Kevin Nash stepping aside is a sad day, and they'll miss seeing his similing face on TV.
The truth is somewhere in the middle of all this. I'll miss Big Kev. He won't make my all-time top 10, or top 20, maybe not even my top 50. But he always kept things interesting on TV, and off TV he did plenty of stuff to give people like me things to talk about. Where would IWC writers have been in the late 90s without Kevin Nash? That will probably be what Kevin Nash is remembered for...he always gave people something to talk about.
Rey Mysterio says he is recovering well from his latest knee surgery and he hopes to be back in action for WrestleMania. I think we all figured Rey would try to be back by then, if for no other reason than to get his biggest payday of the year. There's also been talk of WWE trying to break the record for "Most people wearing wrestling masks in a single place", and if everybody was wearing Mysterio masks that'd be something he'd want to be part of. He had some strong words for Alberto Del Rio, teasing that ADR will be his target upon his return. Unlike Kane, who is a maniac that doesn‘t operate with rhyme or reason, I think Rey would want to exact some revenge against the man that put him out of action. I think Rey makes it back by WrestleMania because that's the type of competitor he is, and he doesn't want to miss out on getting his family some good money.
Kaitlyn's heel turn may have been removed from Smackdown two weeks ago, but booking sheets for future shows still indicate that she'll be making the turn. WWE is advertising a Santa's Little Helpers match with Kaitlyn & Tamina taking on AJ & Alicia Fox. I'd be lying if I said that was a match I'm looking forward to, as I don't think it'll be any better than those AJ/Kaitlyn vs. Alicia/Tamina matches that set women's wrestling back forty years. In any event, putting Kaitlyn with Beth Phoenix & Natalya would be a great help for her career and she'd fit in real well with the Pinup Strong thing.
Speaking of Beth & Natalya, both have been teasing a future feud with Kharma on Twitter. Bad move, girls. Honestly, if beating Kelly Kelly & Eve Torres is such a problem for them, what chance do they have against Kharma once she comes back? Absolutely zero. I dunno, if I was a Diva I'd be trying to get on Kharma's good side. Volunteer to do some babysitting, maybe some laundry if she needs it done. You're not going to beat her, so you might as well avoid getting killed.
Then again, maybe Beth & Natalya aren't as doomed as I originally thought they were. It's not like Kharma's never lost a match. As a matter of fact, I was doing some YouTube research the other day and I found a match featuring the lady formerly known as Awesome Kong against the current OVW Women's Champion, Taeler Hendrix! Perhaps the Divas of Destruction can find some inspiration and learn a thing or two from Ms. Hendrix's quality effort here:
I'll have to ask young Taeler about her experience with the Awesome Kong on the January 6 edition of the 411 on Wrestling. Can't wait!
-I think Tajiri is having some Raw Thoughts in that picture.
-CM Punk fills us in on who retained the WWE title last night. He's helpful like that.
-He's also going to fill us in on who won the US title!
-WOO WOO WOO YOU KNOW IT
-And here comes our new World Champion!
-MURPHY REC!
-Miz, Dolph & Del Rio have no words. Their best promo ever!
-Johnny Ace books the obvious six-man tag for the main event. Good times.
-I remember when Wade Barrett's theme used to suck. After the tenth re-mix or so it's become one of the best themes in WWE. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
-Huh, Barrett got disqualified for the Chuck Liddell thumb to the eye? If that rule was around in Ric Flair's day he never would have won a match.
-Wasteland through the table! So much for Orton being the New Talent Killer, eh?
-A nasal rapture sounds pretty painful.
-That music they play when the Divas walk backstage…I dunno, it doesn't fit.
-Beth vs. Alcia, If this is good, I should have voted Beth higher in the Year-End Awards.
-Alicia wins in a minute. Yeah.
-Then she wishes everybody a Foxy Holiday. The crowd is…well, they haven't left, so that's good.
-Sheamus vs. Mahal. The hits keep coming.
-Apparently the 49ers can't pay their power bill. I wish somebody would have turned the power out here during Beth vs. Alicia, and turned it back on in time for the main event.
-On the bright side, I doubt Mahal will want a rematch after this debacle.
-Philly loves them some Cena!
-Kane chokeslammed Cena to hell…and sure enough, Cena's in Philly!
-Mark Henry walks out like my 89-year old grandmother.
-Some Sexual Chocolate fans in the house!
-Yeah, you bet your ass Lawler's not getting involved in a Kane/Cena melee. He's smarter than that.
-Kane chokes Cena out and steals his shirt. Perhaps he will present it to Papa Shango?
-OK, probably not, but I think it'd be cool.
-Isaac Yankem & Sexual Chocolate are trending on Twitter. Good times.
-Colons vs. Usos! Rosa needs to keep dancing the whole match.
-The Usos are good dancers too.
-I have no idea what Rosa's saying. This doesn't matter.
-Epico wins with the Backstabber. It's really too bad Carlito is so lazy, because he would totally complete this group and be the mouthpiece they need.
-Cody really looks afraid of the Cobra. Well, not really. Not even Cody has the acting chops to pull that off.
-Cody targets Santino's Cobra hand during the match. Yay psychology!
-And he wins with the Alabama Slam! Poor Santino, he doesn't even warrant a finishing move anymore.
-"Coby Rhodes" is trending. This is worse than "Rosa Mendez" trending.
-Oh, apparently Santino called him "Coby". I wasn't paying attention.
-The Bellas kiss Johnny Ace, then Hornswoggle kisses Vickie. I hope this is the extent of the sexual relations going on here.
-At least Big Show remembers that he told Bryan to cash in his MITB briefcase. Foisted by his own canard!
-Oh, Josh. What have you done now?
-The new January 2 video tells us we are prophetless. Which is not even a word. Obviously George W. Bush is the mystery man.
-Ryder, Bryan & Punk enter through the crowd because they are men of the people, by the people and for the people. I dig it.
-Dives all around!
-I think there's a good chance Cole has an aneurysm before this match ends.
-ADR taps to the LeBell Lock!
-Man, these guys are having some fun.
-Apparently ADR suffered a shoulder injury sometime during the main event. I didn't see it, but chatter online and a picture from the venue seems to indicate so. Hope it's nothing serious.
-In other injury news, this happened when Alicia Fox legdropped Beth Phoenix in their match:
-Not good.
It's time for another edition of Total Request Cook! Yup, there was not a whole lot of Impact & other wrestling news this week. If you'd like to request a topic for Total Request Cook, feel free to chime in with one down in the comment section. I have a feeling the next two weeks will be very light with news.
How the internet has turned former fans into current critics. - Penguin
I'd like to think some people give the Internet far more credit than it deserves for shaping opinions…but then I remember being a teenage wrestling fan whose opinions began to change when he started reading wrestling news sites. I was totally one of those kids that thought IWC writers knew everything when it came to wrestling. Once I became one myself I learned that wasn't the case, but these people had opinions that made sense to me. I never liked Hulk Hogan quite as much as WWF & WCW told me I should. I liked quite a few heels that people wanted me to boo. I thought having great matches meant more than having a good look. Even better than all that was finding out all the inside information that I wasn't supposed to know. Yup, those were the days.
There's a pretty obvious reason why wrestling fans co-opt a lot of their opinions from what they read on the web. I know that one of the really cool things about discovering wrestling websites, and has become a really cool part of doing this gig, is getting to talk to other wrestling fans. Anybody that grew up loving wrestling knows what it's like to have most of your peers mock you for watching it. It wasn't easy to find other people in the "real world" that shared a passion for wrestling, unless it happened to be a boom period. I had a few friends in school that watched wrestling, but there weren't many. It wasn't until the Internet took off that I had tons of people to talk wrestling with, and I'm sure most of you would probably say the same thing. Hearing different opinions that the ones I was used to hearing was quite the ear-opening experience.
One of the reasons 411 and other news sites do so well is we're not told what to say by wrestling companies. We're not the WWE Universe, we're not TNA's PR firm, we're not ROHbots…we're just people that like to talk about wrestling. And sure, we complain sometimes, but people like to complain about everything. It's not the exclusive property of Internet wrestling fans. If we just said that everything was great and full of sunshine and butterflies, nobody would read us. They can get that kind of coverage on wwe.com, or impactwrestling.com. 411 appeals to those that don't want to hear the same old thing from people getting paid to toe the company line.
Yeah, we're critical sometimes, but that's what you want. Be a fan first, of course, but you have to have a mind of your own too.
The Fall of the Valet: Why Nobody Can Top Sensational Sherri or Miss Elizabeth - Jis
Most of us have very fond memories of Sherri & Elizabeth. Sherri is still my pick for the greatest valet of all time…no woman has been more effective in getting involved in her men's matches, generating heat from a crowd, or making their men more interesting than they already were. She helped Macho Man become the hated Macho King. She was tremendously influential in helping a young Shawn Michaels become the Heartbreak Kid and get attention as a singles wrestler. Sherri was an effective valet wherever she went, and all of her charges were better off for having her. You'd like to think that the young valets are made to watch Sherri tapes to see what a good valet does, but even if they watch, it doesn't necessarily mean they'll be able to replicate what Sherri did.
Elizabeth was the first valet to get over on a major level. There were valets before her, but none of them rose to the level of the wrestlers like she did. The WWF did a great job in marketing her as the First Lady, and she stood out as a symbol of class on shows typically full of people that lacked it. The fact that she was the first has a lot to do with her enduring popularity. There wasn't a bunch of Divas around doing the same thing that Liz was doing. They had Fabulous Moolah and the lady wrestlers running around, but they weren't all that important in the grand scheme of things, and they weren't sold with the class and dignity Liz was.
In fact, Miss Elizabeth may be the only woman in the history of the WWF/WWE that wasn't booked as a slut. Any other female character in the history of the company would have cheated on Randy with Hulk. It could have been justified, Randy treated Liz like crap most of the time and Hulk was the most popular guy in the WWF Universe. Fans would have been ok with it, but that wasn't Liz's style. She remained loyal to Randy even when Randy cast her aside. She still cared enough about him to attend his retirement match at WrestleMania VII, and to save him when Sherri attacked him. She had loyalty, a character trait that you just don't see the WWE Divas showing a lot of. Liz's character was treated with respect, so the fans respected her.
Today's mainstream wrestling promotions are incapable of repeating that. People writing wrestling shows are so bitter over how they've been treated by women in their own lives that they can't write for a deep, likeable female character. Pretty much the only Impact news this week I saw that was interesting was how the Impact Wrestling writers have Karen Jarrett run Velvet Sky down because they think Velvet's a whore. This is a pretty typical thing within wrestling from people jealous because they can't get with their favorite Diva/Knockout/indy wrestler. It's this negative outlook towards women that keeps them from accomplishing more in the business and keeps us from seeing another Elizabeth.
Another reason for the lack of good valets these days is wrestling companies wanting all of their women to wrestle. Take Rosa Mendes, for example. She's proven to be solid in the valet role in the past alongside Zack Ryder, but they took her away from Zack because they wanted her to wrestle. That wasn't a good idea, and she's been one of the least useful people on the roster for a long time because she was cast in the wrong role. Now that she's managing Primo & Epico, people are starting to notice how attractive she is and how good she is in the role. She isn't a good wrestler, and I think that girls like Rosa, Alicia Fox & even Kelly Kelly that aren't great wrestlers should be used more as valets.
Vickie Guerrero has matches once or twice in a year, and she's the most over female on WWE's roster. Sunny was one of the WWF's most popular women ever, and she might have had five matches at the most. during her time there. There's a lesson to be learned from that…this isn't me hating on women wrestling, as anybody who's read this column in the past knows that I'm a huge fan of it. What I'm saying is that there are girls in the business that should wrestle, and there are girls in the business that are better off being valets. Sara Del Rey is good at being a wrestler. ROH made her a valet, which she was ok at, but not nearly as good as she is at wrestling. Why wouldn't you want to maximize your talent's potential by putting them in a role that suits them? Rosa's not a good wrestler, but she's a good valet. Go with that.
Managers. Can they make a return like the 80s/90s? Captain Lou, Miss Elizabeth, Jimmy Hart, Bobby Heenan, etc. Can they put a cast of characters together like that today? - Jay
Honestly, my guess would be no. It's not for a lack of options, as WWE has plenty of people under Legends contracts that would make fine managers for the next generation of talent. It'd be a great idea to have some of the younger guys not capable of cutting good interviews with managers that can take care of things like that for them. It's just not something that WWE is terribly interested in doing. They started getting rid of managers in the late-90s because valets were more physically appealing, and with a few temporary exceptions like Armando Estrada & Paul Heyman, they've mostly stayed away.
I feel bad for my friend Kenny Bolin, as he had pretty much the worst timing ever as far as getting to a mainstream promotion goes. He was the top manager in OVW when the WWF started using the territory as a developmental league, and there was talk that eventually he would be brought in. Right around that time WWE decided that they wanted hot chicks at ringside instead of fat guys that could talk. So Kenny didn't get to follow his friend Jim Cornette into the WWF. Kenny seems happy anyway, but it's still a shame that he was a few years too late.
There are people within WWE that would like to have managers around. There was a plan a few months ago where Tyson Kidd would run through several managerial candidates, but it was given up on after about a month or so. I don't know why Michael Cole hasn't been turned into a manager. He'd be several thousand times more useful in that role than he is as an announcer. We'll continue to hope that WWE changes their minds on this, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.
The 411 on Wrestling returned last Friday night and featured Larry Csonka & yours truly talking about the latest and greatest wrestling news! Larry had a show with Andy Critchell on Monday night, and we should be back on Friday night to talk about SmackDown, Christmas, football and whatever else happens to be on our minds. It's the best 10 PM EST Friday night wrestling podcast out there!
Speaking of Csonka, he ranked his top ten wrestlers of 2011 and showed the people why he's the best at what he does. Good times.
Calaway presents some Hot Stuff. She's getting better at letting us know how she really feels, and apparently some people don't like it! It's all right, I know some of you aren't used to women that actually have opinions on things.
Wright presents the Heel Report. Nobody tell Wes Kirk about this column that ranked Bobby Roode as the best heel of the week, it'd totally wreck his whole "411 IS BIASED AGAINST TNA" thing.
Sarnecky has a Christmas list for his favorite wrestlers.
Weyer goes over some of the lesser moments of 2011.
Fact or Fiction pitted Trent Howell against Manu Bumb in a battle of 411 contributors. "Contributors" is code for "people that are too busy to write columns".
Well, that's all we have time for this week! Nick Marsico will be in tomorrow with the WedWi, and I'll be back next week with more News From Cook's Corner! Until then…
"These videos are hyping a potential WM28 feud between CM Punk and Chris Jericho and here's why: In the video the little boy is representing Jericho and the little girl is representing Punk. Keep this in mind throughout my explanation. Notice, how the little boy continues to write in his notebook and the little girl keeps trying to look at what he is writing. Once the boy goes into the corner (Jericho's time off from WWE), The girl tries to do the work herself, but can't come up with anything. Keep in mind that she looked at the boy's notebook and this is implying that she has stolen the boy's work, which represents Jericho going to come back and claim that Punk is a fraud and has stolen his ideas and gimmick and what not. Also the ball in the video represents Jericho "dropping the ball" by leaving and Punk "taking the ball and running with it". The ball belonged to the boy and the girl took. At the end the girl, is standing in the spotlight and the boy is in the dark with his head down indicating that we have forgotten about Jericho and that Punk is the new guy we all know and love. This will lead to WM match with Punk and Jericho. Look within the video not what the kid is saying...."
^^^^^^ This!
Posted By: Guest#0774 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 12:52 AM
CM Punk will be WWE champion for a long time.
Posted By: Guest#6419 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 12:52 AM
- "Huh, Barrett got disqualified for the Chuck Liddell thumb to the eye? If that rule was around in Ric Flair's day he never would have won a match."
I thought the exact same thing during the show.
Posted By: Nick M. (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 01:23 AM
I'd just like to say I was pleasantly surprised by a tag team match being featured on Raw. I hope this continues as I think a few guys on the roster would benefit- you bring up Rey Mysterio-I think Rey Mysterio's days as a singles wrestler should come to an end, he needs to segue to a tag team role to extend what little time he has left to compete. Before Air Boom formed, I was hoping for a Rey/ Kofi tag team- there's still time, Vince. I can also see Del Rio teaming up with a heel DiBiase, because their characters are so similar and neither guy has a direction right now. See, WWE? Making tag teams ain't hard.
Posted By: Guest#4135 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 01:45 AM
It's interesting what you said about Sherry, Miss Eliabeth, and writers.
From comments on wrestling boards, what you said about writers seems to apply to many posters. Those who wonder why women usually aren't lifers in the wrestling business need to think about that. Who would want to work in that kind of environment.
If that kind of attitude even subconsciously affects booking, then people in charge need to step in too. The booking is making the product crap in both companies. If you are paying people and giving up the air time, make it profitable.
Finally calling women sluts really doesn't get you any action, not from what I've seen. I've seen the guys huddled up in the corner of a bar or party who are like that and they only get each other's company. I'm also sure that TNA doesn't pay enough to make it worthwhile to sleep around to get ahead.
Posted By: Guest#7915 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 02:23 AM
You know, not only is that the most IWC friendly set of champions for WWE, I believe it is the shortest set of men's champions in WWE.
Maybe HHH did wait until the time of year when ratings are down anyways, but you can't say he doesn't know or care that we exist.
Posted By: Guest#1291 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 02:27 AM
The only way to make that RAW opening more IWC friendly would have been to have Heyman do it and have Cornette bitch about Cole and all the booking leading up to the wins.
My only quibble is that I would have liked to have Bryan go over Mark Henry. Big Show would still be going after Bryan and still be looking at a heel turn. As is the build of having Henry as a strong heel champ is kind of wasted.
I would have had Bryan nail Henry on his bad knee, then put him in a hold that worked that leg. That would have been taking advantage of the damage Big Show did and reinforced that idea that "Everybody Taps".
Posted By: Guest#8794 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 02:32 AM
hese videos are hyping a potential WM28 feud between CM Punk and Chris Jericho and here's why: In the video the little boy is representing Jericho and the little girl is representing Punk. Keep this in mind throughout my explanation. Notice, how the little boy continues to write in his notebook and the little girl keeps trying to look at what he is writing. Once the boy goes into the corner (Jericho's time off from WWE), The girl tries to do the work herself, but can't come up with anything. Keep in mind that she looked at the boy's notebook and this is implying that she has stolen the boy's work, which represents Jericho going to come back and claim that Punk is a fraud and has stolen his ideas and gimmick and what not. Also the ball in the video represents Jericho "dropping the ball" by leaving and Punk "taking the ball and running with it". The ball belonged to the boy and the girl took. At the end the girl, is standing in the spotlight and the boy is in the dark with his head down indicating that we have forgotten about Jericho and that Punk is the new guy we all know and love. This will lead to WM match with Punk and Jericho. Look within the video not what the kid is saying...."
^^^^^^ This!
Posted By: Guest#0774 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 12:52 AM
See that explaination would have made a million times more sense had you said The Miz instead of Punk. Miz basically stole everything Jericho did and is claiming it as his from the suits he now wears, to his facial expressions and the ultra slow talking that he now does.
Posted By: Guest#2088 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 03:03 AM
What are your thoughts on your Reds trading a Volquez and 3 prospects to my Padres for Mat Latos? I'm not sure if this is good for SD because a lot of times, these "great prospects" turn out to be busts. We got a "great prospect" for Agon and he has not been good with the Padres. Do you think the trade is good for your team? You get a great young pitcher. Hope he does well in Cincy unless he plays SD.
That is a great picture of all the champions. Even if half of them lose the belts within a month which would suck, right now the WWE has a great roll call of champions.
That pic of Tajiri and Regal is pretty creepy. Great RAW thoughts to go with it.
"The new January 2 video tells us we are prophetless. Which is not even a word. Obviously George W. Bush is the mystery man."-Steve Cook
Great joke lol.
It would really help if wrestling had more managers and valets. Vickie is a good manager and Rosa is a good valet. It can help people get over you aren't good on the mic. I'd much rather Cole be a manager then be a commentator.
Great column again this week.
Posted By: Still Guest#8287 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 03:32 AM
"^^^^^^ This!
Posted By: Guest#0774 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 12:52 AM"
I hope you meant to say "This is the stupidest interpretation of an artistic piece since Uwe Boll's Alone in the Dark'" because that made like no sense. Punk stealing gimmicks?
Posted By: His Bubbliness (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 06:19 AM
Love that video at the bottom!
Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 06:21 AM
"These videos are hyping a potential WM28 feud between CM Punk and Chris Jericho and here's why: In the video the little boy is representing Jericho and the little girl is representing Punk. Keep this in mind throughout my explanation. Notice, how the little boy continues to write in his notebook and the little girl keeps trying to look at what he is writing. Once the boy goes into the corner (Jericho's time off from WWE), The girl tries to do the work herself, but can't come up with anything. Keep in mind that she looked at the boy's notebook and this is implying that she has stolen the boy's work, which represents Jericho going to come back and claim that Punk is a fraud and has stolen his ideas and gimmick and what not. Also the ball in the video represents Jericho "dropping the ball" by leaving and Punk "taking the ball and running with it". The ball belonged to the boy and the girl took. At the end the girl, is standing in the spotlight and the boy is in the dark with his head down indicating that we have forgotten about Jericho and that Punk is the new guy we all know and love. This will lead to WM match with Punk and Jericho. Look within the video not what the kid is saying...."
^^^^^^ This!
Posted By: Guest#0774 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 12:52 AM
I want Jericho back as much as anyone, but goddamn is that pathetically delusional. That explanation is giving WWE Creative WAY too much credit. I prefer the theory that popped up when the first video with the girl showed up, that it is the return of Undertaker and Michelle McCool. That seems more like something WWE would do, and isn't so damn Freudian.
If it WERE Jericho, I don't think he'd be wrestling Punk. Jericho has already talked about people stealing his gimmicks (especially The Miz), and it'd be a large leap from being serious all the time and dressing nice for promos (Miz) to saying faux-taboo things on the mic (Punk)
Posted By: Cactus (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 06:29 AM
Mystery Meat, which no one can eat
Posted By: Guest#0347 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 07:26 AM
Love him or hate him, I think it's reasonable to say that Kevin Nash earned the right to come back to the company that he helped build in the 90's and have one last retirement grudge feud with one of his best friends. He didn't compete for any titles, he didn't bury anyone, he didn't go over anyone other than Santino and while he did cause CM Punk to lose the belt (for a ~gasp~ whole 3 months!!!!!!1) it was to a first time champ whom the WWE wanted to test out as a main event player. The summer of punk was a success and if the WWE wants to end a summer angle at summerslam, they're going to do it whether Nash is on the roster or not.
Posted By: Hercules Strongs (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 08:56 AM
So great seeing guys like Orton do whats right for business and try and make new guys like Cody,Dolph and Wade. See how it's done Cena?
Posted By: Gary (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 09:19 AM
CM Punk / Daniel Bryan are the champions of WWE. Eerily similar to Benoit and Guerrero being champs in 2004. We ALL know how that ended up!
Posted By: Lase (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 09:24 AM
I feel bad for Ring of Honor. They had both CM Punk and Daniel Bryan and could never achieve any success outside of just being a local independent promotion.
Punk and Bryan go to the WWE, they become stars!
ROH, on the other hand, struggles just to fill up a high school gym with 300 people.
As they say in french, "C'est La Vie!"
Posted By: Jason (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 09:28 AM
Sunny had ZERO matches in WWE.
Posted By: 007 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 09:45 AM
This is my take on Batista's comment.
Since I have the luxury of reading all of his comments together and not as they happened, i don't think that he was attacking Daniel Bryan, but could actually have questioned (as many have) the decision to put the belt on him now.
Now, yes, DB did justify his breaking his promise to not cash in until Wrestlemania, but it doesn't fit with his character.
I questioned why they did it too. I have no idea why they pulled the trigger on it. I am not disappointed, because as a wrestling fan of 35 years, DB is one of the best I have seen. That doesn't mean it makes a lot of sense.
I think that may be where the initial Batista post was coming from. Not questioning putting the belt on Daniel Bryan, but why they felt they had to right now.
As for the rest of his posts...just for context, how many posts shitting on him for his opinion did he get? How many tweets were there disparaging his career?
Context matters, and we have none when it comes to what he was responding to.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 10:16 AM
Man,that is an impressive list of fan favorite champs. maybe HHH has more control than some may realize, and is listening to what the more hardcore fanbase wants.
Posted By: APrince66 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 11:03 AM
I know how it feels to be a big fan and happy when all your guys are champs. The last time I felt that way WAY back after WM4 when Macho Man won the WWF title and Demolition won the tag titles. Sure, I was only a kid then but I had that same feeling of "life is good"
Posted By: Guest#8863 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Nash may well be done...
...but I bet we see Diesel in the Royal Rumble.
Posted By: Guest#4732 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Calaway presents some Hot Stuff. She's getting better at letting us know how she really feels, and apparently some people don't like it! It's all right, I know some of you aren't used to women that actually have opinions on things.
Dont try and turn this into a sexism issue. It's condesending to everyone involved.
Posted By: Guest#4288 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Batista is just the latest in a long line of muscle guys that get handed everything way too fast (Warrior, Goldberg, Lesnar, Lashley). They get bored with the business after a few years and then quit.
Posted By: Guest#5770 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 11:56 AM
"Hell, I have no idea how Bryan's title reign's going to go. He might not even be champ after Tuesday.All I know is that one of my favorite wrestlers has finally climbed to the top of the mountain, and no matter what happens now he can always say he's a former WWE World Champion."
Well put, Steve. I feel the same way. Yeah, WWE is probably going to screw it up but at least Bryan actually did it.
Posted By: Dr. Toboggan (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM
CM Punk / Daniel Bryan are the champions of WWE. Eerily similar to Benoit and Guerrero being champs in 2004. We ALL know how that ended up!
Posted By: Lase (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 09:24 AM
Please stop posting this everywhere, Punk and Bryan havent spent 20 years taking drugs and unprotected chair shots.
Posted By: Guest#7549 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 12:40 PM
hese videos are hyping a potential WM28 feud between CM Punk and Chris Jericho and here's why: In the video the little boy is representing Jericho and the little girl is representing Punk. Keep this in mind throughout my explanation. Notice, how the little boy continues to write in his notebook and the little girl keeps trying to look at what he is writing. Once the boy goes into the corner (Jericho's time off from WWE), The girl tries to do the work herself, but can't come up with anything. Keep in mind that she looked at the boy's notebook and this is implying that she has stolen the boy's work, which represents Jericho going to come back and claim that Punk is a fraud and has stolen his ideas and gimmick and what not. Also the ball in the video represents Jericho "dropping the ball" by leaving and Punk "taking the ball and running with it". The ball belonged to the boy and the girl took. At the end the girl, is standing in the spotlight and the boy is in the dark with his head down indicating that we have forgotten about Jericho and that Punk is the new guy we all know and love. This will lead to WM match with Punk and Jericho. Look within the video not what the kid is saying...."
^^^^^^ This!
Posted By: Guest#0774 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 12:52 AM
See that explaination would have made a million times more sense had you said The Miz instead of Punk. Miz basically stole everything Jericho did and is claiming it as his from the suits he now wears, to his facial expressions and the ultra slow talking that he now does."
I do believe Punk wears a shirt that reads "Best in the World" on the back, no?
And what was Jericho's signature line? "I am the best in the world at what I do."
Not saying this is the meaning behind the videos, but as plausible as anything else so far.
Posted By: Bonerfied (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Small Rules! Cook drools! Fear Great Khali Chop! It's Magical. Look Within.
Posted By: Small (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 01:01 PM
Sunny had ZERO matches in WWE.
Posted By: 007 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 09:45 AM
With the exception of the WrestleMania Divas Battle Royale, I'm pretty sure this is correct.
Posted By: LZ (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 01:21 PM
OK, there's a lot of stuff there. So I'll sum it up in a few bullet points.
-Bryan's too small to be a heavyweight champ
-Internet fans hate Batista and he doesn't like it
-He worked with a bunch of good wrestlers
-What the haters say doesn't matter, even though he spent several tweets complaining about what they were saying
Batista didn't spend "several" tweets responding to haters. He made a comment about Bryan winning the title. Smarks gave him a hard time about it. He responded to *THAT* only ONE time in a long tweet and hasn't had any more to say about it. And what Batista said is all true. He just seems surprised that Daniel Bryan is champion because the wwe *usually* puts the title on bigger guys. He didn't say Bryan is too small or doesn't "deserve" to be champion. People put words in his mouth then "dog him out" for something he didn't say, which is something that people *infered* from what they *assumed* he was implying.
Given Bryan's size, I doubt that he will hold the gold for very long.
Posted By: Chico (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 01:30 PM
I don't think the internet has turned "former" fans into critics. That is, we are critical, but we obviously know and think so much about the product because we follow it.
As opposed to the people who don't like rap or Justin Bieber. They have nothing more to say about Bieber than "Bieber Sux" because they don't care enough to know about him.
But being fans we have things we want to happen. Of course I'm interested in booking that appeals to me, without being concerned about mainstream appeal. Sports fans wish their teams should have drafted another guy, tween girls wanted this or that to happen in Twilight, etc.
The internet just gives everybody a place to vent into the void. Personally I think the rest of you are just 'bots set up to entertain me with responses.
Posted By: Guest#2187 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 02:05 PM
If this was Nash's last match, it was cool to be retired by a friend. I do kind of wish he had done what he had tweeted, coming back as HBK's bodyguard. But TNA offered him a bunch of money instead and HBK didn't want to regress (as a person) to heel Sexy Boy again.
It would have made for an awesome 4 or 5 part series. HBK retires Flair, which leads to the series with Batista. This leads to Taker/HBK I. After failing, this is when bringing back Diesel would have been cool. Then Taker retires HBK, Diesel comes after Undertaker and loses.
This could lead to Nash joining Ace and being retired by 'H. Being the last Kliq member standing, HHH comes after the guy who did in all his friends in the coming WM.
Posted By: Guest#3726 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 02:11 PM
Through the years, we've had Clarence Mason (Shawn Michaels, we're suing you for attempted alienation of affection), Nick Patrick's so-called Lawyer (Mr. Jericho claims he can wrestle my client with one hand behind his back), the nWo's so-called Lawyer (If WCW uses this footage from the PPV last night, the nWo will sue WCW), & a couple of other random characters playing a controversial & corrupt Lawyer Role. Dave Otunga is the latest in the line of said characters. The above ones stank & Unga-Bunga-Dunga-Otunga is no different!
Posted By: Guest#2903 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 03:31 PM
Oh people...Daniel Bryan said he would wait til WM to cash in his shoy because WWE told him to at that point. He cashed it in on Sunday instead because WWE changed their mind and told him to. Do you really think any Superstar makes his own decisions about what happens on-screen?
Posted By: Vito J (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 03:58 PM
Oh people...Daniel Bryan said he would wait til WM to cash in his shoy because WWE told him to at that point. He cashed it in on Sunday instead because WWE changed their mind and told him to. Do you really think any Superstar makes his own decisions about what happens on-screen?
Posted By: Vito J (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 03:58 PM
Yeah... no shit sherlock. I think everybody here is saying that it's inconsistent with his character, and thus the sign of bad writing. Not that Daniel Bryan decided this on his own.
Posted By: HeartBurnKid (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 04:28 PM
CM Punk / Daniel Bryan are the champions of WWE. Eerily similar to Benoit and Guerrero being champs in 2004. We ALL know how that ended up!
Posted By: Lase (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 09:24 AM
There is NO comparing Punk and Danielson to Benoit and Eddie.first of all Benoit was a roided out depressed nut case,Danielson AND Punk are DRUG FREE DICK HEAD.Eddie was also heavy into to painkillers among other things,and are the main reason he is no longer with us despite being clean for a while.You can't un due the destruction drugs cause to your body.So really the only real way to compare them is on in ring ability alone,you can't throw the "we all know how that turned out" bullshit around when personally Punk and Danielson are NOTHING like those two junkies.
Posted By: what!? (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 07:17 PM
In it's infinite wisdom, WCW DID book Miss Elizabeth as a backstabbing slut.
Posted By: Guest#7928 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 08:09 PM
Great column as per usual Cook.
I agree about the valets. Women who are using the WWE as a stepping stone in their modeling career I think using them as valets works a lot better than frequently misusing their talents in the ring. Would you object to Kelly Kelly being a valet for Air Boom? Would you miss her wrestling prowess? Yet she would still be getting a lot of exposure. Then women who are geared towards improving in the ring can do so against each other. The cardinal problem with the 'Pin-Up Strong' gimmick is that the best wrestlers are in the same stable, invariably putting good wrestlers against bad wrestlers constantly, which makes the wins look boring and the losses look terrible. Kelly, Eve and Alicia can all be used as valets on the two shows, leaving room on the roster for 3 or 4 female wrestlers to perform in the ring increasing the quality everywhere.
A total aside but what are your thoughts on making the next 'permanent' Raw GM… wait for it… Michael Cole! While Lauranitis has improved in his role, the next change should be Cole and here's why: A) He is massively over as a heel B) His heel-iness is better served to put the face over as a GM, not as a commentator constantly berating the people we cheer for C) He will not struggle on the mic like Johnny Ace D) It will get him off commentary (THANKFULLY!). Thoughts?
Lastly, the videos are for the forgotten re-debut of Brodus Clay, sorry to disappoint all of you.
Posted By: BJ316 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 08:56 PM
SIMPLE reason why Nash is gone as quick as he arrived. No one cared about him. His ego convinced him he still mattered, and its obvious he doesn't. Period.
Posted By: REALITY (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 09:33 PM
all of this comparing benoit-eddie to dragon-punk needs to stop... there's a reason they are both dead as unfortunate as it all turned out... benoit had no mic skills, dragon has very solid mic skills - especially as a heel... seems to be the reason to compare but that's not even true
Posted By: Guest#3464 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 09:34 PM
"Would you object to Kelly Kelly being a valet for Air Boom?"
Yes, I think somebody in a stable should be able to talk. Kofi can, but only in feuds with Orton and only once.
Posted By: Guest#6037 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 11:11 PM
I'd just like to say I was pleasantly surprised by a tag team match being featured on Raw. I hope this continues as I think a few guys on the roster would benefit- you bring up Rey Mysterio-I think Rey Mysterio's days as a singles wrestler should come to an end, he needs to segue to a tag team role to extend what little time he has left to compete. Before Air Boom formed, I was hoping for a Rey/ Kofi tag team- there's still time, Vince. I can also see Del Rio teaming up with a heel DiBiase, because their characters are so similar and neither guy has a direction right now. See, WWE? Making tag teams ain't hard.
Posted By: Guest#4135 (Guest) on December 20, 2011 at 01:45 AM
I believe that Ted has direction as a face that holds tailgating partys before WWE events, and is getting himself over. I also believe that ADR has direction in that he is a main event heel trying to fullfil his destiny.
Posted By: Guest#2316 (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 11:30 AM
I'll agree about valets and how more wouldn't hurt anybody, but knowing WWE they would go overboard and we would end up with every wrestler having a valet and half the camera time would be on them and then on Jerry Lawler rubbing it out under the announce table.
A few of the divas in recent years did do something before they graduated to wrestler status. K2 was a valet for Mike Knox and didn't get involved for quite some time in ECW. Melina was a was a good mouth piece for MNM and a single Johnny Nitro, but she was a wrestler on the indys that came up and eventually got her time in the ring, people bash her but she was above average for divas in the ring. Maria was just a backstage interviewer before they brought her into the ring. Hell even Ashely Massario managed LonDrick, before she started rolling around on the mat. Didn't it even take a few months for Nattie to get in the ring when she first showed up in the Hart Dynasty? I think now the women actually want to get involved in the ring, just as much as WWE wants them to be wrestlers. They hire these athletic girls and tell them just walk around the ring or do back stage interviews, them being athletic in nature are not going to just want to sit around on the sidelines. Vickie is the biggest exception in the WWE and she has a job for life due to unfortune circumstances. She doesn't want to wrestle because its not been what she has been striving to do and she is well aware of her athletic shortcomings.
And lets face it if anything the WWE is giving the divas a chance to show what they can actually do in the ring and if they can strike gold again like they did with Trish. If you would have at the start of Trish's career with her managing a team called TnA, said she would be the most successful and over womens wrestler in the history of the WWE would have been called mad. Speaking of Rosa, just think she started off as a divas competition contestant with her real name Melina Rouka, she didn't make the cut but went to developemental and from what I read wasn't that shabby in the ring. So yes they wanted her to wrestle, but lets face it, its nice to find out early on if she can wrestle, and be a valet rather than just find out she is a good valet. She finally got the call up, but can't cut it in the ring right now, but she did previously show something in developemental, so they wanted to roll with it. It just took time to figure out what she is good at, and it looks like shaking her ass and shouting in spanish is what she is good at.
Posted By: this was way to long (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM
Managers and valets really are a great idea. Ricardo Rodriguez and Vickie Guerreo have shown that both characters can get over and enhance the talent they work with. Would Del Rio be half as entertaining without Ricardo there as his obedient toady? Nope. Would Ziggler have gotten to where he is now without being attached to Vickie's hip? Nope.
The fact is, not every personality in wrestling is meant to step in the ring. WWE has a lot of talented personalities, but few genuine in-ring talents. A guy like Santino is never going to rise above midcard comedy act as a wrestler, but he's a heat magnet as both a face and a heel when he's on the mic. Why keep forcing him into a role that's only going to keep him treading water? Let him manage a stable of European/foreign wrestlers in a similar manner to Heenan's First Family. Or, pull Michael Cole from out of the commentary booth and let him manage someone. He's a male Vickie Guerreo at this point with nuclear heat from every crowd. Use it to get people over instead of killing TV time.
Posted By: Guest#5928 (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 09:58 PM
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