The 8-Ball 02.02.12: Top 8 Gimmicks That Should be Relaunched
Posted by Ryan Byers on 02.02.2012
From the Road Warriors and Jake "The Snake" Roberts to LAX, 411's Ryan Byers takes a look at the top 8 gimmicks that need to make a comeback!
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the 8-Ball. My name is Ryan Byers, and I have recently been asked to take over this here column by the 411mania powers that be after its former author flew the coop.
The column, for those of you who may not have read it before today, is essentially a straightforward "Top 8" style column. Some of you may be asking why the site needs another countdown column when we've already got Nick Bazar's Contentious Ten that runs on Mondays and the staff-wide Top 5 that runs at mid-week. To be honest, when I first heard about the opportunity to write this, I thought the same thing. However, the more that I thought about it, the more that I came to the conclusion that there were some things that we could do in order to make this column into something that stands out. They are the following:
1) My opinions. I've been writing for 411mania since 2004, and I think that, in my time here, I've developed a reputation as being a fairly opinionated guy. In writing this column, I'm not going to worry about trying to be objective or taking the feelings of the majority into account. These will be strictly my opinions.
2) Unique topics. Though I can't promise that we're going to be completely without crossover, I am going to do my best to make sure that I'm covering topics that have not and will not be covered by either the Contentious Ten or the staff Top 5. In addition to coming up with my own topics, I want YOU, the readers, to come up with some ideas. I'll try to cover anything that is submitted, within reason.
3) International and historical scope. I don't mean this as a knock, but, from what I can gather, a lot of 411 writers these days are guys who are fairly young and have only been following wrestling for eight or so years and have only been following U.S. wrestling on top of that. My goal with this column is to make sure that this column's lists hit as much of wrestling's history and geographic scope as is applicable to the topic.
So, that's a quick overview of my thoughts on how this column will operate. Your feedback and topic suggestions are welcome. It's time to move on from housekeeping, though, and into the meat of the column.
And, because this is essentially a relaunch of the 8-Ball column, it is only appropriate that our topic for today is . . .
Top 8 Gimmicks that Should be Relaunched
There are very few original concepts in professional wrestling. Everybody steals everything from everybody else, with many moves, characters, and looks that are familiar to fans today having been inherited from a wrestler who was in action ten, twenty, thirty, or even many more years ago. And all this theft is a good thing, because the new versions of a gimmick oftentimes eclipse the old one and give a younger generation their own set of memorable moments. However, it seems like there are several gimmicks which, even though they were successful in their early incarnation(s) still haven't gotten a chance to flourish in the modern environment. Thus, this is my list of the eight gimmicks that should be relaunched with new wrestlers in 2012 . . .
8. Bourne Again: Sick of Being a Joke
One of the things that we can all agree on in professional wrestling is that, like them or not, there are a lot of goofy characters running around. I don't mind the occasional oddball in the ring, but they do need to be balanced out by more serious characters in order for the "sport" to be something that I truly enjoy. One of the big problems with those goofy characters is that, when you've got somebody underneath one of them who turns out to be talented and who you want to use in a serious role, it can be difficult for fans to accept them as anything other than the comedy character that they once were. If you would like to see some examples, take a look at Val Venis, who was hurriedly repackaged into his porn star character when the more serious "Chief Morley" didn't get over and Shane Helms who, once he gained notoriety as the Hurricane, wasn't really of value in any other role. (There's part of me that thinks this same fate will befall Zack Ryder sooner rather than later, too . . . but that's another topic for another day.)
Perhaps the most successful attempt at taking a cornball gimmick and turning the wrestler underneath it back into something that could be taken seriously was Paul Heyman and ECW's reinvention of Doink the Clown, played in the WWF by Matt Borne, as "Borne Again," a man driven off the deep end by the fact that he was forced to portray a clown in the World Wrestling Federation. Borne, in addition to acting like a complete lunatic on the microphone, adopted the practice of wearing a ratty, tattered version of the Doink costume and half his facepaint, and he would follow up on some matches by dressing his downed opponent as the clown that the Fed had forced him to become.
Imagine how successful this character could be if applied to the current wrestling landscape. There's so much comedy and wackiness in pro wrestling and so many guys that need to be elevated beyond it (Jack Swagger, I'm looking at you) that a character the type of Borne Again, frustrated to the point of insanity by being made into a clown, would be a natural fit for somebody looking to become a main eventer.
7. Hippy Jimmy: Political Counterculture
From the 1960s through the 1980s, one of the most popular wrestling promotions in the world was based not in the United States, in Mexico, in Japan, or even in Europe but actually in Argentina. The promotion, referred to as "Titanes in el Ring," featured a variety of nutty characters that would have made the early 1990s WWF with its garbage men, plumbers, and hockey players seem tame by comparison. One of the promotion's acts was a tag team consisting of two hippies, wrestling under the creative names of "Hippy Jimmy" and "Hippy Hair," based on and dressing like they just stepped straight out of the 1960s flower power movement.
Of course, there are now probably some people out there who are saying, "Ryan wants to recreate a hippy gimmick in 2012? He's completely gone off the deep end." I'm not talking about a hippy gimmick, though. I'm talking about a gimmick that would essentially be the modern day equivalent. In the 1960s, hippies were young men and women fed up with conventional politics and societal norms who, in extreme cases, "dropped out" of mainstream culture and lived in a communal environment to protest what they perceived as in injustice in the world. Some people romanticize them as being a movement that lead to meaningful social change. Other people, particularly those who were part of the older generation at the time that the movement was ongoing, found them to be obnoxious young twerps who had unrealistic expectations of the world and who were going to fall in line as soon as they grew up. Sound familiar? Well, if it doesn't, perhaps this image will help you figure out what I'm driving at . . .
The "Occupy" movement has become one of the most polarizing news stories of the last several years, with the conservative end of American politics absolutely loathing these "kids," who they see as nothing more than money grubbers looking for a handout from hard-working Americans. (And, for the record, I'm not saying that's what my opinion is . . . I'm just reporting what the perception of folks like Wes Kirk happens to be.) In other words, the Occupy protestor is essentially the modern day equivalent of the hippy, if not in terms of what their actual goals are then in terms of how popular culture perceives them. Thus, imagine what wrestling could accomplish if it created a character that, even if not an Occupy protestor in name, adopted the ideals of what the movement is perceived as being by the mainstream. Given that wrestling audiences tend to be on the opposite end of the spectrum from those who are protesting, I imagine that it could be a real lightning rod for heel heat.
6. Jake Roberts: Trust Me
Though we can all agree that he's got his problems outside of the ring, who doesn't love Jake Roberts' performances as a professional wrestler? Perhaps some of Jake's greatest work on the microphone came when he turned heel in the early 1990s, urging the Ultimate Warrior to "trust me." It was here that Jake built on his earlier reputation and established himself as a true master manipulator, a man who played mind games with his opponents to the point that they had no idea what to expect from the snake man next.
Sadly, this sort of cerebral heel seems to have all but died out in professional wrestling. Bad guys these days all seem to be monsters (Mark Henry), Honky Tonk Man-esque undeserving champions (Daniel Bryan), or outright unthreatening jobbers (The Miz). There's nobody left who gets the upper hand over the good guys. They either come out on the winning end of things as a result of physical dominance or they don't come out on the winning end at all. As a result, somebody like Jake the Snake, who could get heat by outsmarting and manipulating fan favorites, would be a breath of fresh air. It seemed that WWE was going to attempt the launch of a similar character in 2003 when Sean O' Haire appeared in a series of vignettes telling us things that we didn't already know, but, sadly, the gimmick was quickly dropped and wound up going nowhere.
The only problem with launching a gimmick of this nature is finding somebody who has the talent on the mic to actually pull it off. Many of WWE's wrestlers coming out of developmental these days aren't seasoned enough to give the sort of nuanced performances that Roberts did, so you would probably need to pull a veteran out of the mothballs in order to do it . . . but there really aren't that many veterans out there who aren't either already under contract to a major promotion who the major promotions are willing to do business with. Perhaps we will have to wait for some younger wrestlers to gain a bit of seasoning before this gimmick takes shape again, but, when and if it does, it will be worth the wait.
5. LAX: Revolutionaries
It's been a long time since I watched any TNA wrestling on a regular basis, but, when I was regularly watching the show, my favorite act hands down was the Latin American X-Change or LAX. For the record, I'm not talking about the later, lamer babyface version of the group with Hector Guerrero and Ariel the Vampire running around, nor am I talking about the proto-LAX that included such luminaries as El Gran Apollo and the horrific Machete. I'm talking about the heel tag team of Homicide and Hernandez, managed by the criminally underrated Konnan.
The premise behind LAX was simple. Konnan and company were under the impression that they and their Latin American brethren were being discriminated against throughout the United States and that the discrimination was trickling down to the wrestling promotion that they were a part of. This was all occurring despite the fact that the Latino population is on the rise in the United States and despite the fact that some current projections see them becoming the largest ethnic group in the United States within a few years' time. A lot of wrestlers or wrestling promotions could take similar concepts and turn them into something horribly racially insensitive or otherwise offensive. The folks who put together the segments, however, were able to walk a fine line and prevent things from going too far over the edge.
Some people might find it odd for me to include such a recent gimmick on a list like this one, given that it was occurring in TNA within the past five years. However, when you look at the overall number of professional wrestling fans in the United States, TNA is viewed by a fairly small proportion of them (one and a half million versus Raw's four and a half million) so, even though the gimmick is a recent one, it would still be new material to the vast majority of wrestling fans. Plus, this one has the added benefit of having a group of people right there to do the gimmick, as there's an established grouping of Hunico, Primo, and Epico just waiting for a mouthpiece to come in and play the Konnan role.
4. Kevin Sullivan: Satanic Cult Leader
As noted earlier, wrestling, despite including a ton of violence and sometimes a bit of sexual content, tends to attract audiences who are fairly socially conservative. That's one of the big reasons that Kevin Sullivan was able to so easily freak the hell out of people when he portrayed a Satan worshipper in Championship Wrestling from Florida during the 1980s. In fact, Sullivan's performances with the gimmick were so convincing that, when Chris Benoit murdered his wife and child almost thirty years later, conspiracy theorists who were looking for some explanation as to how Benoit could have been "framed" turned to Kevin Sullivan as the "real killer" and in cited to his supposed past as a Satanist in building their case.
(And, no, I don't believe any of those theories, just for the record. Benoit did it and acted alone.)
Any storyline involving an actual, god's honest follower of Lucifer touches at a cord within the hearts of those who are religious in a way that few other things can. If you want an example, go watch The Exorcist or some similar fare with a hardcore Christian friend. It petrifies them. However, aside from Kevin Sullivan playing with this gimmick in Florida, I honestly cannot think of another person attempting to recreate this schtick at any point in time or in any wrestling promotion. That strikes me as being just flat-out wrong. This character worked so well that SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE should have pulled it off again by now.
The only thing that I can think of which would have prevented this character from being relaunched is that, even by the standards of professional wrestling, it can be a little bit too controversial. Though non-Christians tend to have no problem with the supreme evil of Christianity being incorporated into an entertainment genre, some Christians really take offense and would more than likely shut things down. I don't mind subversive content, though, so I would be glad to see a Kevin Sullivan-esque character ride again.
3. Adrian Street: Effeminate Badass
Adrian Street (not to be confused with Adrian Adonis) was not your stereotypical gay pro wrestling character. First of all, he was clearly heterosexual per his relationship with the vivacious Miss Linda. Second of all, while most of the gay stereotypes running around in pro wrestling are portrayed as weasly heels who cheat their way to victory, Adrian was usually seen as one of the toughest guys on any given roster. However, he was still EXTREMELEY effeminate, wearing skin tight, questionable clothing and loads of makeup, which got him all of the homophobic heat that a gay character would while simultaneously allowing him to come across as a legitimate in-ring threat. It was the best of all worlds, and Street turned it into a hell of a career, wrestling as recently as 2005 despite beginning his career in 1957.
It is true that various elements of Adrian Street have been incorporated into various other wrestling characters over the years. However, there hasn't really been anybody who has hit the gimmick dead on with all of the same elements. Rico Constantino claimed that he watched videos of Street when he was developing his over the top gay babyface character for WWE, but in the ring Rico played things up like a comedic stereotype more than he did an Adrian-esque tough guy. There were some parallels with Goldust as well, but, at the end of the day, Goldust was far more overtly sexual than Street ever was, which tended to limit the character's ascension into the main event.
And you know the other great thing about Adrian Street? He SANG. Just watch that music video up above and tell me you wouldn't mark out hard if a modern wrestler adopted that persona and had something similar run for him on Monday Night Raw.
2. The Great Muta: Threat from Abroad
Yes, I know, there are people out there rolling their eyes right now and saying, "Oh, of course, Byers has to pick the Japanese guy." Give me a second, though, and allow me to explain myself. First of all, I'm not talking about anything that Muta has done in Japan. I'm talking exclusively about what he did when he was wrestling in the territories of the United States in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
And I'm not even necessarily talking about somebody doing an exact clone of the Muta gimmick with the facepaint, the elaborate robes, and the mist. That's been attempted, and, typically, nobody does it any better than the original. Instead, I'm talking about a major promotion in the United States employing a heavyweight wrestler from Japan and using him in a role in which he is treated like a serious threat. I'm talking about one guy and only one guy, not an entire roster. Why? Because, instead of having a roster full of wrestlers who all look, act, and wrestle the same, it gives you something that's a little bit DIFFERENT. Even when they're reprogrammed in a different style, Japanese wrestlers in the United States wrestle a little bit differently. Due to cultural differences between the countries, they tend to carry themselves a little bit differently. And, believe it or not, there are plenty of talented guys out there who could work a style that would get over in the United States. Sure, there aren't a ton of them who speak English fluently, but that's one of the reasons that managers exist.
Perhaps one of the biggest reasons why I would want to see this gimmick revisited is that there have been so many blown opportunities with it in recent years. WWE currently has Yoshi Tatsu under contract, but I literally cannot remember the last time I saw him television. Allegedly he's on Superstars and NXT, but I don't get the channel those shows are on. TNA recently had Kazuchika Okada for a year, but he did nothing . . . and, hell, I can't even remember if Akira Raijin/Kiyoshi still has a deal with them. He might even be wrestling on NXT for all I know. So much talent has been squandered, and it's a shame, whether you want to call me a Japanophile or not.
1. The Road Warriors: People Who, You Know, Win Matches
One thing that drives me crazy about wrestling these days is that there are way too many performers who are locked in vicious parity booking cycles or who are losing more than they're winning despite the fact that they are supposed to be major stars. (For example, I just saw one source for this sort of thing post that Miz's record in televised matches since he lost the WWE Title is fifteen wins and THIRTY-TWO losses.) It used to be that, when somebody was going to be a star, it meant you almost never saw another person get the upper hand on him and, when you did, it was either part of the setup to a major angle or part of the blowoff to a major angle. With the exception of John Cena and, until a month or so ago, Randy Orton, there just aren't that many people who win and win consistently anywhere in American professional wrestling.
There aren't any more Road Warriors. Most of the time, the Road Warriors weren't quite the main event, but they, and just about everybody else at their level on the card, were protected to the extreme. If you saw the Roadies lose . . . for that matter, if you even saw the Roadies doing anything less than absolutely kicking ass . . . you knew that you were seeing something special. It created a more emotionally compelling wrestling product overall, because the majority of a promotion regulars were viewed as stars and, when two of those stars started to feud, it was much more meaningful than what we usually see today, when two regular members of the WWE roster have a rivalry with each other and nobody cares because it's a battle of two guys who previously looked like geeks week in and week out for years.
Simply put, we need more Road Warriors and fewer Mizes. We need people who are booked like superstars, not chumps. We need the big names to win more than they lose, and we need people to not constantly trade wins back and forth. That's the ultimate gimmick that needs to be relaunched.
Posted By: Poi (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Road Warriors type thing will never happen. These wrestling companies don't know a good thing. They're going for entertainment but the funny thing is the product ain't entertaining.
Saw the Rumble, I was pretty much bored. (Good thing I didn't buy it). Only thing that interested me was the fat black Irish guy who brought out the eye candy. 'Bout it.
Vince lost touch years ago, who knows what TNA is doing, all the others... eh.
Byers, you should start your own federation.
Posted By: Lucifer (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:28 PM
Interestingly enough these are all heel gimmicks.
Posted By: Guest#4327 (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Byers, you lost all credibility when you said that Daniel Bryan was an undeserving champion. Go back to your mother's basement.
Posted By: Guest#9586 (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:33 PM
no love for the kizarny?
Posted By: Guest#5939 (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:37 PM
WTF? What we really need is a new Stan Hansen-esque wild redneck.
Posted By: Trashy (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:38 PM
I can go along with the first two pics..
Posted By: Sephiroth (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Waylon Mercy.
Posted By: EmpireJoN (Registered) on February 01, 2012 at 11:51 PM
WWE could use a Cactus Jack/Sabu like character. A wildman who can put on crazy matches and get people over.Their aren't too many guys in wrestling today to fill that void. Guys like Abyss has lost his aura and Necro Butcher just doesn't do it for me.
Also the "snapped" angle ala Ken Shamrock/Meng.
I also think of why hasn't the major 3 used the "evil foreigner whos proud of their country" to be a top heel. Those guys are natural heat machines.
Posted By: Don (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:02 AM
Yeah thats what wrestling needs, another bullshit stereotypical Mexican stable.
Posted By: Guest#0506 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:06 AM
Erm...isnt Cena basically a solo version of the Road Warriors?
Posted By: Guest#5655 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:11 AM
My name is Ryan Byers, and I have recently been asked to take over this here column by the 411mania powers that be after its former author flew the coop.
Not Byer's biggest fan but at least he's reliable. The previous writer flaked out on record time.
Posted By: Guest#3128 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:32 AM
How did you Miss the "Dungeon of Doom"?
How about "Managers"?
How about "Tag Teams"?
Or "Big Fat Guys" ala King Kong Bundy?
Posted By: Poi (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:20 PM
You don't know what 'gimmicks' are, do you?
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:39 AM
John Cena
Giant? Check.
Limited move set? Check.
No sells? Check.
Wins every match? Check.
Little personality? Check.
Screamy promos? Check.
Overrated because of all of the above? Check.
He doesn't just win a lot like the Road Warriors. He IS the Road Warriors.
Posted By: Realistic Fan (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:41 AM
Wow! You must have read my mind about guys like the Road Warriors. I was just thinking about the time on RAW when the New Age Outlaws (with the help of HHH and HBK) dismamtaled the L.O.D, shaving Hawk's reverse mo hawk. I was just watching the screen with my jaw dropped. I'd never seen anyone do that to the Road Warriors before. It really helped put NAO over.
The same with Hulk beating Andre at WresleMania 3. I never thought Hogan was gonna win that match. Andre was unbeatable in my eyes.
I just saw a match between Roddy Piper and Jake Roberts on WWE Classics On Demand from Mid-Altlantic, I think it was about 1982. Jake and Roddy put on a really good match and Jake was a good wrestler but he was nothing compared to what he became when he had the snake gimmick.
Good read.
And bye the by, although it was short the psychology in that video from Argentina was off the charts.
Posted By: Andre the Midget (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:45 AM
I stopped reading when you claimed no one has done a Satan worshiping angle. The first thing that popped in my head (a second after reading that angle) was James Mitchell, indy manager and last seen on TNA managing Abyss.
Posted By: MAniac (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:47 AM
Demolition
Posted By: Charles (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:47 AM
Gimmicks that need to come back, IMO:
-Sports Entertainment Xtreme (in WWE):
(At Wrestlemania, Dolph Ziggler wrestles in, and wins, MiTB. Later on, in the show, Punk faces Jericho, in a grueling match, and wins. With Punk exhausted, Ziggler comes to the ring, smashes Punk with the briefcase, hits the ZigZag, becoming WWE Champion. Crowd is trashing Ziggler, with Vickie relishing it, and Ziggler not even reacting, with his focus squarely on the championship. Vickie reaches, to raise Ziggler's hand, but she gets a ZigZag instead. Ziggler walks out, with his eyes still on the belt, and Vickie gets the stretcher job out of Mania, and off of TV, for a while. The actions are then explained on the following Monday Night Raw.)
The premise behind this entire idea, as far as I see it, is a pretty simple one; the WWE product is stale, the audience can sense that the product is stale, and the WWE needs a real truthteller, to break this staleness.
Ziggler's ready for a shot on top, Swagger/Ryder can work, the audience has a buy-in with Kelly Kelly, and Heyman is one of the best mouthpieces in the history of wrestling, and here, you give him some real talent to work with.
The key point for the angle, and the entire reason for running this, is that Dolph Ziggler, with Heyman as his muse, seeks to re-create wrestling, in HIS image.
There's no way that Rock doesn't end the night, looking at the stars, so the top feud following Mania is likely to be Cena vs WWE Champion. With that in the offing, you make the "battle for the soul of the WWE" right here. Cena stands for, in essence, the current vision of the WWE, so you have S.E.X. push things as close to the edge of PG, because that's the range where WWE expects to make their money, as possible.
Ziggler gets a decent run with the WWE title, Cena eventually wins, but Cena then flirts with joining this "new vision of WWE".
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:53 AM
Jason Sensation.
A guy who can do accurate impersonations would be cool funny. Even better if he could wrestle.
Posted By: Guest#4719 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 01:04 AM
"Simply put, we need more Road Warriors and fewer Mizes. We need people who are booked like superstars, not chumps. We need the big names to win more than they lose, and we need people to not constantly trade wins back and forth."
Sheamus wanted me to tell you, "Hello, fella."
Posted By: Johnny Kinard (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 01:06 AM
Totally agree with the Matt Bourne entry. I actually think that would have made a great gimmick for Nick Dinsmore.
Posted By: Cody (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 01:08 AM
"We need the big names to win more than they lose"
like John Cena? we already have one of those...
Posted By: psh (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 01:11 AM
i'm a big muta fan
Posted By: Bryan (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 01:21 AM
In late 2008 early 2009 the WWE booked Randy Orton to be like Jake the Snake. Watch the segment where Orton handcuffed Triple H and ddt'd Steph then kissed her. That's pure Jake the Snake. I just wish they would have consistently booked him like that.
Posted By: Guest#8200 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 01:23 AM
Dean Ambrose could EASILY pull off the "Trust me" gimmick. He's just a psychotic, weird kind of guy. And he has a Brian Pillman flare to him (it probably helps that they are both from Cincinnati).
Posted By: Kevin (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 01:59 AM
One thing they (WWE) should bring back are folks that actually know how to write wrestling.
Posted By: Guest#1707 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 02:00 AM
Before Randy Orton turned babyface, his heel persona reminded me a lot of Jake The Snake.
Posted By: Jeep (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 02:07 AM
What's the deal with Tag Teams?
Vince basically tore every team apart in favor of Super Cena.
Seriously, during the SmackDown! 6 era, Tag teams were monsters on two different brands.
Now, it's BS. I should email him.
I have money, I am willing to see tag team matches.
Posted By: Ant-LOX (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 02:08 AM
"Simply put, we need more Road Warriors and fewer Mizes. We need people who are booked like superstars, not chumps. We need the big names to win more than they lose, and we need people to not constantly trade wins back and forth. That's the ultimate gimmick that needs to be relaunched."
And then you will complain that person is getting pushed down our throats a la John Cena.
Posted By: ausjimmy (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 02:24 AM
Randy Orton already does Jake Roberts gimmick, complete with Serpent-nickname and flash finisher with unknown 3-letter acronym. And it has worked!
Posted By: sp1 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 02:29 AM
Relaunch? So in other words, there are no more original ideas so old ones have to be recycled? While youre at it, why not "relaunch" album titles. Get the next black pop singer and name his first album "Thriller" it will sell millions.
Posted By: TheR (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 03:13 AM
2) Muhammad Hassan (for WWE)
This time, you go full bore with it, likely the way it was intended before the xenophobia kicked in.
Muhammad Hassan was supposed to be, in my opinion, the example of a proud Arab American, finally fed up with how he was being treated as a second-class citizen, for no other reason than the color of his skin and the faith that he puts his belief in.
To make the point as clear as possible, you even go as far as have the only reason that he's even in wrestling is that his brother always dreamed of the shot, but lost his life, fighting for this country.
You let him seeth with this righteous fury, all the while winning his matches, and you hope, to Jeebus, that the WWE audience doesn't turn on another Arab American, who's now wrestling in memory of a fallen soldier.
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 03:14 AM
3) Doink The Clown (original concept)/Synn Bowdee
Simply put, you bring back the "evil jester", but, this time, you focus on bringing the spectacle of the old carny into the modern era.
You have him come to the ring, playing all types of wretched tricks on the audiences; passing out candies that taste horrid, oodling the female fans, stealing drinks from folks, tearing up signs he doesn't like, abusing the ring announcers, etc. All interviews are done in quasi-"carny" and he always comes to the ring with some type of whiskey.
You have him work a slower, plodding-"old heel" style, and you have the setup for the finish be spitting the whiskey in his opponents face.
Not sure how far the gimmick would go, but it'd be interesting to see, in my opinion.
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 03:27 AM
The Kevin Sullivan satanic heel was great in Florida, but the Dungeon of Doom should be brought back as well.
Posted By: Moonajuana (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 03:58 AM
4) 3Count/ Honky Tonk Man (for WWE)
For all the folks who missed out on the last 16 months of WCW, regardless of what Vinnie Mac's revisionist history is conjuring up, you truly missed out on some great gimmicks, this being one of them.
The gimmick was so hilariously awful, it could've turned into something solid, if not for WCW's mistake of playing it straight. Oh well.
The gimmick came about, if memory serves me right, as the "boy-band backup dancers" for "Sugar" Shane Helms, eventually known as The Hurricane and a guy with so much straight wrestling talent that the Cruiserweight division was primed to be rebuilt around him. Anyway eventually Helms outgrew the need for 3Count, went his own way, and that shouldv'e been the end of it. It wasn't, but that's another story.
In this return of the gimmick, you play things the way that they ought to have been, IMO, played in the first place, as the bumbling three-man tag team that crooks its way out of defeat.
You go to FCW, take the three best bump-takers in the developmental territory, who aren't on the fast track to the main roster, and you give them the shot.
Hype their debut with 4-6 weeks of build up, with the cheesiest "boy band"-related spots Creative can come up with, you debut them with a squash win over a jobber team, complete with off-beat, off-key dance performance, and you have them talk their way into a title shot, which they win, by crook, and follow with another awful dance performance.
From here, the gimmick really takes off; since the WWE tag belts already don't mean that much to begin with, you give 3Count an extended run, past the near-year of London/Kendrick and almost to the point where they begin teasing the longest reign as tag team champions, without having 3Count pick up a single clean victory.
Assuming the "Honky Tonk Man" formula still works, when the WWE ever does get the talent together, to push an actual tag division again, you hotshot the belts off of 3Count, you kill the gimmick, and you hope there's enough talent in that group, for a couple of those guys to break through, on their own.
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 03:59 AM
Byers, you lost all credibility when you said that Daniel Bryan was an undeserving champion. Go back to your mother's basement.
Posted By: Guest#9586 (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:33 PM
He obviously wasn't saying "Bryan Danielson doesn't deserve to be a top guy because he's not a fantastic wrestler and hasn't worked hard nor long enough", dummy; he was saying the World Champion Daniel Bryan gimmick is that of an "undeserving, lucky goof-vegan who was on a massive losing streak for most of last year against EVERYONE other than Tyson Kidd and Heath Slater and never got a win against rookies on NXT even though he's a grizzled vet-submission specialist who's been all over the world", which probably won't make Bryan a money-making heel in 2012 like Honky was in the 80s with a midcard belt and a LOT less in-ring ability.
Posted By: Guest#0280 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 04:32 AM
6) The Patriot
I don't care what anyone says; there's no better embodiment of a childhood hero than a gimmick drawn from our best wishes and natures.
Simply put, The Patriot, as a gimmick, works because the world can honestly be treated as being "black and white", since The Patriot doesn't represent a man, but the ideals of mankind.
He will always do what is right, for the simple fact that representing our ideals gives him no other option.
It'd be a throwback to a simpler time in wrestling, and i couldn't be more excited.
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 04:36 AM
Gimmicks I'd like to see back in the WWE, since the need the help:
- Sports Entertainment Xtreme
- Muhammad Hassan
- Doink The Clown(original)/Synn Bowdee
- 3Count/Honky Tonk Man
- Barry Horowitz/Brad Armstrong
- The Patriot
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 04:41 AM
There needs to be more heel Russian tag-teams. Like the Koloffs. I like the idea of more Road Warriors types and another Muta would be awesome. Managers should brought back for sure. There are way too many wrestlers these days with no mic skills.
The guy that wrote"
Erm...isnt Cena basically a solo version of the Road Warriors?"
Posted By: Guest#5655 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:11 AM
The answer is fuck no he's not! Not even close!
Posted By: Go back to 80's and 90's stuff (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 04:51 AM
"Erm...isnt Cena basically a solo version of the Road Warriors?"
Ive been reading this site for about 10 years now and this above comment ranks up the top as one of the most stupid comments ive read. Well done.
Posted By: Guest#0978 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 04:55 AM
WWE tried to get Tajiri back with the "Threat from Japan"-gimmick but he turned down the deal several times, so eventually they looked under every stone and finally found Yoshi Tatsu.
Eventually they found out that all he does is a bad kick to the face that CM Punk does regularly and since then he has mostly been jobbing in NXT/Superstars.
Not even Yoshi's new half face mask can save his career in America.
Posted By: Guest#5067 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 04:58 AM
WWE could use a Cactus Jack/Sabu like character. A wildman who can put on crazy matches and get people over.Their aren't too many guys in wrestling today to fill that void. Guys like Abyss has lost his aura and Necro Butcher just doesn't do it for me.
Posted By: Don (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:02 AM
It's impossible to do in WWE now when they aren't allowed to bleed anymore. It limits the hardcore matches too much because they have to avoid doing dangerous stuff that can give injuries.
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Or "Big Fat Guys" ala King Kong Bundy?
Posted By: Poi (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:20 PM
They got Brodus Clay and Kharma now. But if you mean fat as in Vicera-fat then it was doomed a long time ago when Umaga died of bad health when WWE tried numerous times to put Umaga on diet and he declined.
Posted By: Guest#4893 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 05:06 AM
The only idea that I'd agree would nice to see, from your list, is a redux of "Snake" Roberts. There's a guy in FCW, Dean Ambrose, that folks on this seem to think can pull it off, but I've never really seen his work. The one other guy, who I'd like to see get that shot is Eddie Kingston.
I think the rest of the ideas are pretty weak, for the simple fact that they don't speak to the wrestling audience in a sensible way.
-Nobody's gonna believe being force to be a clown, only to have a nervous breakdown, is the makings of a star.
-Spoofing something into a gimmick, especially before the general audience, let alone the wrestling audience, has been able to make an assessment of the "movement" is jumping the shark.
-LAX got over, as far as I'm concerned, because of the chemistry of Homicide/Hernande, but mainly because their mouthpiece, Konnan, was speaking on behalf of a feeling/grievance/sentiment that he seemed to believe in his spirit. That's not something you just throw together.
-Worshipping the Devil is simply not something that audiences, especially wrestling audiences, find all that entertaining.
-The notion that an effeminant gay man can be considered "tough", in wrestling, is about as likely as that same audience dabbling in Devil-worship.
-Foreign attractions will always have a hard time translating in this country's wrestling audience, as long as the English language stands as a barrier.
Outside of being a "mastado" with someone to talk for you, forewign talents aren't gonna get over if they can't speak the language.
-If the old "Road Warrior formula" came back, everyone pushed that way, especially from the start, would likely end up with "Cena heat", simply having a good amount of the boos, coming in, simply from folks tired of seeing you win all the time
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 05:19 AM
The thing about big names winning more than they lose, is unlike in the Road Warriors day, the big names face each other all the time and someone has to lose.
Unless you bring back jobber matches, which isn't going to happen, you can't have every big name winning all the time because it's impossible to do it with more than 1 or 2 guys at a time.
Posted By: Robin (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 05:25 AM
Part of the problem with protecting wrestlers to the level that the Road Warriors were is that it really only worked back in the old days where you could get away with stuffing the TV product full of squash matches to get arses in seats for the house shows.
Nowadays, with TV being the main vehicle, you can't show a whole bunch of jobbers getting the crap kicked out of them as your network exposure. You need actual compelling matches and feud setups, which means people have to take a dive (with national exposure, at least. You could lose 80% of your house show matches when running a feud and basically no-one would know or care when you came to town as the big badass from TV) more often to keep people watching.
Its a problem. You either let people lose and only protect the very upper echelons (which can make building people up a major PITA, especially making them look like threats to the established top guys) or you protect your uppercarders as well and pay the price in more matches that the fans don't really get involved in. Or you go the Dusty route, which can be fine in small doses but antagonises damn near everyone when its used consistently.
Posted By: Sark (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 05:39 AM
Rellik
Posted By: Stylo112 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 06:02 AM
Back in the EWR days, we used to that that gimmick Power And Paint.
Posted By: Aging Mark (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 07:03 AM
Evil Foreigners - Have always been apart o wrestling, i would use muslims.
Abdullah The Butcher - I dont know how, but somehow.
Dungeon Of Doom - Why is TNA not using this now.
Freebirds - A group of guys who are together for years and never turn on each other.
Million Dollar Man - Now it would work better than it did in the 80s.
Dick Murdoch - !!!
Posted By: Zip (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 07:39 AM
"Waylon Mercy.
Posted By: EmpireJoN (Registered) on February 01, 2012 at 11:51 PM"
Bingo. Was going to mention him and Sean O'Haire when he did the devils advocate gimmick.
Posted By: DB (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 07:52 AM
would prefer Demolition than Road Warriors... Vince even had Smash's son under contract for a while
Posted By: Guest#5437 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 07:56 AM
I would also like to see the return of the over-protective wrestler type with a female manager. More along the lines of the Macho Man, and NOT Mike Knox.
Posted By: MrFrEEz33 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 08:17 AM
1st Good idea for a colum.
2nd Totaly agree with having the Muhammad Hassan character returning and being used as scipio2009.
3rd LAX should get a shot in WWE, Homicide has main event writen all over him.
4th Create a Tim Tebow charachter (maybe Alex Riley) have him say a prayer before and after the match, myabe say God likes him more than everyone else after he wins if he's a heel. If Vince can wrestle God Im sure they try this.
5th Make a Occupy Raw Protestor, the modern hippie who brings a back pack to the ring and uses his iPad as a weapon, he hates the 1% who have and anyone who doesnt share.
6th Big Bossman charachter? He can be listed as being a former cop with a ton of awards but he snapped and now he wants to enforce all the WWE rules and when there is a DQ or cheating he gets upset and trys to fix things cause he cant tolerate rules being broken.
Posted By: UcantCLA (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 08:35 AM
Life's a bowl of beans....in Waylon Mercy's hand!
Posted By: Guest#7458 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 08:53 AM
"I'm not telling you anything you dont already know"
Posted By: Sean o' Haire (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 08:54 AM
I miss the vain, egotistical heel gimmick, ala Rick Rude or Rick "The Model" Martel. Someone who only cares about his own image, but is tough enough to win matches on a regular basis. They haven't had a really good version of that since the Narcissist in 1993, which was aborted since the WWF needed a top face to go against Yokozuna. The WWE tried with Chris Masters, but he sucked.
The WWE could also use a good heel stable, which they haven't had since Evolution broke up. They looked like they were going to have won with Nexus in 2010, but since Summerslam, they became Cena's bitches, even when they won.
Right now, the WWE has a core of a potential stable with Vickie Guerrero's union of Swagger and Ziggler. All she would need is a decent tag team.
I also wouldn't mind seeing a decent foreigner heel gimmick, provided it's done right. Based on some of his ROH promos, I think Claudio Castignoli would fit well in this role, as he can reprise the "Very European" gimmick and just be a prick heel, superior to US wrestlers just because of where he comes from.
I also wouldn't mind a modern version of the Nation of Domination (circa 1997). They could call the group something different, but at its core it would feature a number of black wrestlers who are tired of waiting while so many other, weaker wrestlers get many more opportunies. R Truth would be the spokesperson, as his stuff about conspiracies would fit in. They could also include Kofi Kingston, angry about his stop-start pushes and Mark Henry, pissed off about losing the WHC title. And if they wanted to rehire him, Shelton Benjamin would fit in as well, as the athletic wrestler who always steals the show but rarely gets the opportunities. Needless to say, John Cena would be a prime target for the rage of this group.
Posted By: Michael L (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 09:00 AM
Anyone who shits on Muta is a fucking idiot. When I first saw him in NWA he immediately became my favorite. And I'm not a weaboo. So you're right this time, Byers.
Posted By: Guest#2357 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 09:23 AM
Erm...isnt Cena basically a solo version of the Road Warriors?
Posted By: Guest#5655 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:11 AM
No. Try Stone Cold or Warrior.
As 'The Ultimate Warrior' - Hellwig never ate a clean televised pin on ONE SINGLE OCCASION in his entire career. Did not happen. Ever. And it didn't get shit on, the fans loved it.
If you're a crazy bad ass the fans love, you can pretty much win every week. Cena is more this era's Hogan except not as good a character & with a more cynical audience to play to. There's no mystique to Cena due to (as he keeps reminding us) he's out there busting his arse 'every week' - Hogan wasn't. He was the top guy so he didn't need to. I fear the damage is already done for 'face' Cena, he's never going to be universally loved by the masses like Hogan was.
Anyway jeez I'm totally fucking rambling. Cena & the Road Warriors share hardly any similarities.
Posted By: The Hitcher (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 09:51 AM
The reason you never saw a star lose back then is because they wrestled jobbers. Look at any wrestling show before the 90's. You'd have a big name against a guy with no gimmick. Feuds were done with promos and at house shows that didn't count so far as TV was concerned.
Posted By: Carl (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 09:59 AM
I agree with all of these but the main problem is almost all take some one with really good mic skills as a heel, and those are few and far between. While not a gimmick, the manager needs to make a comeback in a big way since most guys can't talk any more or are cut from the same cloth. Mark henry in his most recent main event role is great because he's not only physically intimidating as he always been, but he's finally intimidating on the mic. Or maybe its just the need for more VARIED promos. We all want more matches and less talking segment main events but in general, when has there been any explanation for stuff with lower guys that aren't comedy. These all come down to mic skills that just aren't being done now a days. The Miz's win-loss record is atrocious, but you wouldn't know it from the few seconds he gets to talk. Its a classic heel move. Its all about the lost art of the promo and the truly lost are of storylines for EVERYONE not just the main event guys.
And also, while it was only the developmentals, OVW ran the Kevin Sullivan satanic thing a few years back....well, maybe more than a few with the Disciples of Synn. Hell, Batista made his debut as Leviathan in almost the same segment as your clip but coming out of the Ohio River rather than the Atlantic/Gulf of Mexico that Purple Haze did.
Posted By: adnomad (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Great list, yet one minor flaw really stands out in my mind. You mentioned that you do not get the channel that NXT and Superstars air on. They air online in their entirety currently. It's ironic that you post various youtube videos than mention that you do not get the channels that NXT and Superstars air on.
Posted By: Cannonite (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:15 AM
The Bourne again Gimmick has Brodus Clay Written all over it. Have him be the dancingfool most of the summer then in a tag match have him turn on someone like Cena. He can then get on the mic and say the only way he could get on tv was dancing like a fool and he doesnt have to do it for the fans, he can act like the monster that he is
Posted By: Guest#2113 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Whoa!!!!
Argentina's Titanes en el Ring was THE Chikara of its time.
Posted By: Martin Karadagian FTW (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:33 AM
"Allegedly he's on Superstars and NXT, but I don't get the channel those shows are on"
It's a channel called "The Internet". Perhaps you've heard of it?
Posted By: Dr. Jones (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Byers didn't say Danielson was underserving. He said his gimmick was as an undeserving champ, like the Honky Tonk Man.
I think a group of hispanic wrestler pissed off about being cast as stereotypical mexicans would be good.
I'd also like to see the old Power and Glory gimmick given to Mason Ryan and Justin Gabriel. Bring back the ring gear too!
Posted By: The Big Fat F*g (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Vince hates the whole "Occupy" movement and everything like it. If he made a character based on a protestor, he would make the character a bumbling, uneducated idiot and an unsympathetic coward who constantly contradicts himself.
The character would definitely be a heel, but people would shit over it because of it being done in poor taste, not because they disagree with the philosophy. It would be like Michael Cole - fans will see it's a mouthpiece for what Vince himself thinks and react accordingly.
Just my 2 cents. The column was a good read.
Posted By: Franke Sisto (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:49 AM
This article is gold, sir. As much as I love workrate the heart of wrestling to me are the characters and storylines. WWE is way too mainstream to take a risk with a lot of these gimmicks, though. But we need some guys who have a personality other than "I wear black tights and want to win".
Posted By: Guest#2777 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Is it just me, or is Matt Bourne in that video very like Roddy Piper?
Posted By: SR Punk (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:58 AM
I was hoping Kizarny could have stuck around and formed a psycho circus kind of stable.
Posted By: APrince66 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 10:58 AM
We need another Ultimate Warrior.
Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 11:10 AM
"Only thing that interested me was the fat black Irish guy who brought out the eye candy. 'Bout it."
...what?
Posted By: Umm (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 11:24 AM
LAX had the chance to be one of the greatest tag teams of all-time. They had the theme, the mic skills, and above all, were amazing in the ring. As usual, TNA fucks it up.
Posted By: Cassie Laraway (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Tna could benifet from these gimmicks.Have Eric young take doink's fed up character. Crimson and morgan as road warriors with joe given the solo warriors push and have them join together destroying tna. Bring back lax with konnan to go after tna again. Money. Then have roode lead them all with aj,sting,angle,hardy,storm going against them.
Posted By: dam (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:38 PM
decent article... not going to so much comment on it as a bigger idea i have to help all wrestlers seem more important and interesting...
we had a tv program up here called stampede wrestling that was able to show the top stars against each other {better then star vrs jobber} without having to give away so many loses that we got bored cause the matches were never shown in their entirety
the matchs of the top stars were always joined in progress... we only got the highlights or important parts of the story for free... it was done to sell the rematches in the next arena show...
in my mind how id do this on a show like raw... is have 2-3 matches that would be old style exhibition matches or squash matches with a superstar that needs building putting on a 5 min performance of his top offense. his opponent would be a jobber... so its not a road warrior thing... its simply very honestly explained to the audience as a mis match designed by the promoters to tease someone we are meant to become interested in. this would be live and maybe packed into the first hour of the show...
then there would be a package of highligh matches that would be aimed at selling the next ppv or whatever the top feuds going on were... and these could be used to get almost any 'gimmick' over. cause ultimately its not the gimmick that matters, its the matchups that result... the desire to see someone win or lose...
winning and losing are what have lost their meaning in this age of sports entertainment
and then to finish off my 2 hour raw, i would rejoin the live show and have a main event payoff to reward the audience. if you give away only 2 superstar match per week instead of 10-12 of them, they mean way more to the fans. there was a day that i used to mark out big time to see a paul orndorff vrs tito santana on a weekly show.
take the old style 'wrestling' and the modern day promo work... and you can get any gimmick over imho..
Posted By: michael from alberta (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Damien Sandow in FCW sort of has an effeminate tough guy gimmick going on. He's not an overtly gay character, but he prances around in hot pink tights and the crowd chants "You're a Diva" to him, which he reacts brilliantly to.
Posted By: John (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Road Warriors type thing will never happen. These wrestling companies don't know a good thing. They're going for entertainment but the funny thing is the product ain't entertaining.
Saw the Rumble, I was pretty much bored. (Good thing I didn't buy it). Only thing that interested me was the fat black Irish guy who brought out the eye candy. 'Bout it.
Vince lost touch years ago, who knows what TNA is doing, all the others... eh.
Byers, you should start your own federation.
Posted By: Lucifer (Guest) on February 01, 2012 at 11:28 PM
Well, Lucy, you can't complain if you didn't pay.
Posted By: Guest#7613 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 02:19 PM
The idea of an Occupy wrestler fighting against the corporate regime of WWE would be a great idea, although it would have to be handled delicately, because it has the potential to easily slip into a strawman political caricature. Punk is close but we need someone a bit more specific and countercultural. The only problem is that WWE's conservative leanings would probably get in the way...they tend to shut out left-wing ideas really quick and don't let them be faces. Supposedly the whole Raw walk-out thing was supposed to mirror the Occupy protests but we saw how that turned out. WWE seems to shy away from political gimmicks, possibly because they're so charged, and it's hard to put them into the face/heel dynamic because there's a lot of room for disagreements. But all in all, the idea of a protestor/young freedom fighter wrestler is interesting, and could be given to a young guy to both give him a push and to connect with a new young audience...
Posted By: Guest#2679 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 02:29 PM
"Erm...isnt Cena basically a solo version of the Road Warriors?"
Ive been reading this site for about 10 years now and this above comment ranks up the top as one of the most stupid comments ive read. Well done.
Posted By: Guest#0978 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 04:55 AM
Lets see, they both no-sell everything, both win all the time, both are booked like unstoppable badasses. If Road Warriors were around now the IWC would shit all over them.
Posted By: Guest#7428 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Yeah, I was one of the ones who hoped Nick Dinsmore was going to go Borne Again-style.
Randy Orton was certainly channelling Jake Roberts in his last heel run. The thing is, that kinda schtick gets you cheered, nowadays. So he became a face, and has turned into a combination of Roberts, DDP and Jim Duggan.
A Sullivan gimmick couldn't work in WWE, not until Kane and Undertaker are long gone. Not sure about elsewhere.
Yoshi Tatsu was on Smackdown last week. Wrestled for the tag-titles. But I still kin your meaning. I, too, hoped they were going to do something when Yoshi Tatsu came back with the new look. But he had the same music (which is admittedly awesome) which didn't fit anything but a happy go lucky guy (ie: jobber). But it doesn't even need to be a Japanese guy, just an awesome foreigner (and by foreign I mean from a non-English or Spanish speaking country) They had this with Kozlov for a while, and Khali, though he was obviously more of a spectacle than a badass. Hell, even Umanga.
Shaemus is pretty much the modern day Road Warrior. He goes out and whips ass and people cheer him for it. Has he even lost a match clean since becomeing a face? Sure, he doesn't talk like the Road Warriors, but as far as between the ropes goes. Also, I'd compare the Briscoes with the Road Warriors.
I agree with the commenters talking about a Wildman gimmick. Not necessarily wildman in the vein of like a Umanga, but more of a deranged individual that you don't know what he's willing to do to win.
Posted By: G-Walal (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 02:41 PM
Waylon Mercy! ya'know wut I mean?.. lol Bastion Booger!!! and of course, a gimmick I think should be "re-invented" Man Mountain Rock!!! hells yea!
Posted By: Jason (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Cult like gimmicks have been done
The Flock, RTC , The straight edge society. Have been done an I think the RTC was actually the most intresting.
The E needs a Gimmick/characters like the Dudleys (not the stuttering one either) a TEAM focused on being the best TEAM their entire carere was based off that & they were hardcore.
The million $ man Gimmick I mean you have his son an creative got lazy & fucked up an easy gimmick. In a time where no one has $ he's this silver spoon fed rich guy with wealth. You could even tweak his character a bit an have him hire people to take out the champ or even a Dvia who's turned him down.
Someone mentioned Ziggler going extreme an pairing with paul heyman that's a great idea. An even if he doesn't go that route make him the leader of a solid stable.
The E needs a Heel that's not afraid to fight back like triple H was in early 2000 when he basscially ran shit.
They need a no nonsense character like Benoit could brawl and go toe to toe with anyone at any given time.
I say give vickie a REAL stable Zigler & throw in rhodes he's been on a roll. An give swagger a partner.
Posted By: watever87 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 03:45 PM
Are you kidding me? You want there to be someone who constantly wins? The reason I HATE Orton is because he always comes out on top. He never loses clean and when he does lose, he RKO's (stupidest move name ever) the guy and everyone cheers. It gets old very quickly.
Posted By: Guest#5579 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Jake The Snake Roberts.....The Rattle Snake Stone Cold Steve Austin....The Viper Randy Orton
Posted By: Guest#5617 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 05:32 PM
The two that I'd love to see are the Muhammad Hassan and Sean O'Haire re-done.
O'Haire's vignettes and look sold the character so well you wanted to see what he was going to say. The semi evangelical preacher, trying to get faces give into their sins is a really strong gimmick and one with a lot of legs.
With Hassan, the amount of heat that drew was insane considering apart from one stunt where the E got it completely wrong he never really did anything. Who couldn't help but cheer whatever face went up against him.
Posted By: g (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Paul "The Pirate" Burchill.
End of discussion.
Posted By: Texas Kelly (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 05:47 PM
D'uh! There's NO counterculture since 2001.
9/11 dude!
Posted By: No Counterculture. (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 06:14 PM
John Cena
Giant? Check.
Limited move set? Check.
No sells? Check.
Wins every match? Check.
Little personality? Check.
Screamy promos? Check.
Overrated because of all of the above? Check.
He doesn't just win a lot like the Road Warriors. He IS the Road Warriors.
Posted By: Realistic Fan (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 12:41 AM
And yet despite all that, the Road Warriors never came on TV dressed like Billy Madison.
Posted By: Think again (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 06:46 PM
They got Brodus Clay and Kharma now. But if you mean fat as in Vicera-fat then it was doomed a long time ago when Umaga died of bad health when WWE tried numerous times to put Umaga on diet and he declined.
Posted By: Guest#4893 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 05:06 AM
You are thinking Yokozuna, Umaga died of a drug overdose sadly. To the people who are saying Cena is the Road Warriors, go check out a Warriors match then compare to a Cena match. The difference is Cena gets beat down then makes a comeback ala Hogan. The Road Warriors dominate then win.
Posted By: Guest#7374 (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 07:01 PM
I don't comment very often (or at all) on 411 since the comment section is like the Mos Eisley of the internet, but this was one of the most entertaining articles I've read on this web-site.
Thank you for writing this. It let me re-live some of my favorite gimmicks from childhood. I remember the first time seeing Great Muta and Jushin Liger and how well WCW/NWA was at selling the importance of these athletes from abroad. As a young mark, it really made me think the NWA/WCW was the 'real' world title since the whole friggin' world was going after it, as opposed to WWF which was much more contained in the US/Canada.
Great article. Again, thank you for writing it.
Posted By: Gog (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 07:27 PM
The only thing I REALLY want to see is a new Road Warrior team! I'm looking @ you Mason Ryan/Brodus Clay!
Posted By: TylerMorganWPG (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 08:07 PM
Why don't we combine all these things?
Take a legit bad ass guy from Japan bring him over to WWE, dress him in pink lace and glitter. He wrestles like this for about a year, beating guys conviningly but never breaking out of the mid-card. People see the talent and wonder why he has to look like that and why he's stuck in that postion on the card. Slowly but surely he starts to break away from that character until one day he snaps, cursing Vince for turning him in to a joke. So he starts raging aganist the machine so to speak, trading in the lace gloves and eye liner for a red hood and black face paint. By harnessing the power of Satan he, through his cerebral promo work, begings to amass a following. This group goes on to be an unstopable force which never loses for almost an entire year until a phoniex rises from the ashes and saves the WWE from it's darkest days!
Book It!!
Posted By: Andre the Midget (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Why not combine two of these suggestions from the list? Bring back Roberts, who despite his personal issues, still could manage to pull off an on-camera "evil" persona. Then use him to manage a stable of young impressionable heels, a la Raven' Flock. This would manage to recreate the Sullivan thing, without necessarily spelling out the satanic aspect. Eventually, I would see a feud between Robert's top star, whoever that might be, and Punk: the antithesis to Roberts notorious lifestyle, but the heir apparent to his brand of slippery manipulation.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 08:24 PM
My gimmick needs to return!
Posted By: Sexual Chocolate (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 09:15 PM
On your last point about the Road Warriors: One of the problems is that there are too many star versus star matches on free tv today. If they scaled back and did some jobber squashes on Raw, Smackdown, or Impact, it would eliminate some of the need for the wishy-washy booking we have now.
Star vs. star matches are a by-product of the Monday Night War anyway. Since neither promotion is programming against the other, there really is no need for it. Squash matches would allow guys to look strong and not at the expense of another superstar. Miz could look strong and it wouldn't have to be at R-Truth's expense every week.
The other thing is too many PPVs, but that's a whole other issue right there.
Posted By: The Ethnic Squirrel (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Star vs. star matches are a by-product of the Monday Night War anyway. Since neither promotion is programming against the other, there really is no need for it. Squash matches would allow guys to look strong and not at the expense of another superstar.
Posted By: The Ethnic Squirrel (Guest) on February 02, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Incorrect. The lack of squash matches is the direct result of a growing industry. This isn't the 70s or 80s where PPVs were few and far between while live TV happened once a week if that. Back then, the business was built around house shows. We saw squashes on TV so that we'd pay to see that big face finally get his hands on the slimey heel.
Nowadays house shows are supplimentary to live TV. That's why bigger matches are on TV. That's the draw.
Posted By: Realistic Fan (Guest) on February 03, 2012 at 01:24 PM
With all the foreign talent the WWE has they could make a stable of guys like Alberto Del Rio, Mason Ryan, Wade Barrett, the Great Kali, Justin Gabriel, even Canadian guys like Christian and Jericho, Claudio, bring back Vladimir Kosloff, Shameus, Kofi Kingston,and the Scotish dude I forget his name have them be managed by Steven Regal. You can have them be fed up with Americans. They can say the rest of the world hates the United States. They can all subtlety turn heel and back-stab the top guys in the company.
Posted By: New World Elite (Guest) on February 03, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Justin Gabriel & Alberto Del Rio = Strike Force 2k12
Posted By: MrFrEEz33 (Guest) on February 03, 2012 at 09:51 PM
My gimmick was supposed to work. That damn Davey Crockett, as Dusty eloquently put it, sabotaged the whole thing.
Posted By: The Shockmaster (Guest) on February 04, 2012 at 01:41 PM
TNA already did a copy of LAX. It was called Mexican America and it wasn't any good. We don't need this gimmick to be done yet again.
Posted By: Guest#5204 (Guest) on February 05, 2012 at 12:09 PM
I nominate Cody Rhodes for the Jake Roberts role.
Posted By: Guest#9726 (Guest) on February 13, 2012 at 03:14 PM
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