411mania.com: Wrestling - 411 Fact or Fiction 02.09.12: Punk vs. Jericho, Rock & Cena Tweet, HBK at WM, More

Hi, hello & welcome to 411 Wrestling Fact or Fiction! I'm Steve Cook, and it's been a busy week in the world of wrestling. CM Punk & Chris Jericho seem bound for WrestleMania and spent the week trolling each other. The Rock & John Cena did the same, but on Twitter. Shawn Michaels will be appearing on Raw next week and people are wondering what role he'll play in the ongoing Triple H/Undertaker saga. The Miz appears to be in the WWE doghouse these days, and losing a diving R-Truth in the lights didn't help his cause. Natalya has a new gimmick, while Chris Hero officially signed with WWE. Sting revealed he was close to coming to WWE last year, and TNA's success in England left people wondering if they'd be best served to get out of the Impact Zone.

We have two 411 veterans to discuss these topics. Our first contestant is currently the man behind Raw's Instant Analysis, and he's one of the few people in the world that was brave enough to listen to the Lou Reed/Metallica album. Say hello to Chad Nevett!

His opponent is making his 411 return…he left the site in November 2010 after providing many quality editions of The Hamilton Ave. Journal, In Defense Of… & Hidden Highlights! He's a consultant, entrepreneur, businessman, journalist, and wrestling fan that pops up occasionally when I need some business coverage in News From Cook‘s Corner…welcome back the distinguished JP Prag!

Questions were sent out Tuesday morning. I spaced on it Monday night.

Participants were told to expect wrestling-related questions.

1. CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho is the most interesting feud heading into WrestleMania.

Chad Nevett: FACT. I'm torn between this and Triple H/Undertaker. This wins out because it's something I haven't seen before. Jericho coming back to, rightfully to a degree, call out various performers on aping his style is an interesting idea and plays well into some of the arguments wrestlers get into about who came up with what idea or move. I am a little concerned that their match at WrestleMania could be another Jericho/Edge, though, which dampens my enthusiasm. Jericho's feuds tend to work best over the course of months and multiple matches with the first match being the weakest. I kind of wish that WrestleMania was the culmination of the feud, the blowoff... but, as it stands, it's what I'm looking forward to most out of the three feuds that are pretty much guaranteed heading into 'Mania.

JP Prag: FICTION. While Jericho has a... different... interpretation of his character this time around, it is hardly a compelling story that makes me say, "Oh, this match will be the culmination of many great things!" Sure, I'll be glad to watch the match live in Miami at WrestleMania with Jeff Small (retirees unite!) from a workrate and interest in CM Punk and Chris Jericho in general, but nothing makes me feel like this is the emotional match that is going to be interesting from that perspective.

What match am I most interested in? Actually, I'm not sure of that yet, either. Perhaps we'll see when I get closer, but I'm sure I'll enjoy the vast majority of it live in house!

Score: 0 for 1

2.John Cena & The Rock feuding on Twitter interests you.

Chad Nevett: FICTION. I can see how the social media stuff would appeal to some people, but it doesn't for me. I like to watch wrestling not just for the stories, but also for the actual wrestling. The combination of the two. And Twitter feuds takes only a small part of what I care about and does it in a medium that seems a little silly. It doesn't help matters that I don't generally care about the Cena/Rock feud considering there isn't much else to do. We get it, they don't like each other... the Rock left wrestling, Cena is lame to adult men... what else is there? Maybe if they did something close to original, I'd change my mind. But, I'd also hope they did that on TV rather than Twitter.

JP Prag: FICTION. Nothing on Twitter interests me at all, especially people pretending to act like petulant children. There is some underlying truth from what both John Cena and The Rock have been saying about each other over the fast year, which makes their feud believable, but we all know they are still working together and will follow the planned finish in the end. Because of that, this so-called Twitter war is just another work with some kernels of actual feelings. That hardly makes it that amazing and groundbreaking and I'd rather see it on TV than read about it with terrible spelling and grammar.

Score: 1 for 2

3. Shawn Michaels will be involved in the Triple H vs. Undertaker match at WrestleMania.

Chad Nevett: FACT. The way they look to be building that match is to put it in continuity with the Michaels/Flair match and everything that followed. How do you make it even bigger than last year's match while also reminding everyone of all that came before? Get Michaels involved somehow. Maybe it will be as a ref, maybe it will be as the special guest enforcer, maybe it will be standing in the corner of one of the men... who knows. It's possible he'll only be involved in the build to the match, but I think they'll go a step beyond last year and have him play a greater part.

JP Prag: FACT. Assuming that is the match that is going to happen, sure. In what fashion is another question entirely. Guest referee, timekeeper, outside enforcer, in Triple H's corner--these are all options. Could it be a three-way dance? I suppose anything is possible. Of course, I wish a few years ago instead of doing Shawn Michael vs. Undertaker II that they did DX vs. The Brothers of Destruction. Shawn couldn't get the Undertaker to agree to a match, so DX should have won the tag titles and challenged Kane and the Undertaker and got the match that way. But now I'm retroactively fantasy booking, and who wants to read that?

Score: 2 for 3

4. The Miz deserves the heat he's getting from WWE management for the Survivor Series buyrate & not catching R-Truth on a dive on Raw.

Chad Nevett: FICTION. He deserves the heat for the dive. I wasn't entirely sure at first, but I went back and watched it and he was clearly in position to catch R-Truth and looked to have sidestepped it. That's on him. But blaming him for Survivor Series' buyrate when he was, at best, the third-most important man in that main event and probably less of a factor in people buying than guys from other matches like CM Punk or Randy Orton? That's insane. Clearly, the WWE sold that show on the strength of the Rock and John Cena teaming up -- they didn't seem to care who their opponents would be and that showed in the build. In the weeks leading up to Survivor Series, Miz and R-Truth continually looked weak and ineffective, unable to gain the upperhand on Cena. So, why would anyone take them seriously as a threat to Cena and the Rock? The result was obvious. I know that there's more pressure on the Miz to show results because of the amount of media he does, but, at the end of the day, he plays the role of an obnoxious heel and was booked in a way where there wasn't even the joy of finally seeing an obnoxious heel get his comeuppance. No, the WWE dropped the ball there.

JP Prag: FICTION. Nor the abuse he regularly gets from the commentary crowd down below. First off, how could the Miz get all the blame for Survivor Series when there were four people involved in the main event (including John Cena and the Rock) along with other matches on the card that were supposed to sell it. I think Cook said it best on Tuesday: you cannot just sell a show based on names; there actually has to be a compelling reason. Miz and Truth together could not take out John Cena, so why would Cena even need The Rock? There was just no reason to care because of what the writers did, not because of the Miz.

As for the dive with Truth, as of this time I have not seen it yet so I cannot say for sure, but I'm going with it takes two to tango. Miz would have the same amount of blame of catching someone as Truth would have of jumping correctly and the agents would have of figuring out the spot.

And as for the commentators below, just because someone was once something in the past, it does not take away from what they are now and how successful they can be. You don't hear people going, "Oh that Hulk Hogan, he's just some bouncer who shouldn't have been wrestling. He should have gone back to watching a door instead of wrestling Andrea the Giant." I used to work a register at a retail store, but none of my clients complain about my ability to get the job done today that is totally unrelated. Why can't you do multiple things in your life well? Miz is a certain type of wrestler who works very well in the Sports Entertainment realm and I personally enjoy the work he does and that is where it ends for me.

Score: 3 for 4

SWITCH!

5. Natalya's farting gimmick will help her get over with the WWE Universe.

JP Prag: FICTION. Although I haven't been privy to SmackDown in some months, I only have to ask a few questions: What's the payoff? Where does this go? Who does she feud with because of this? I don't mind silly gimmicks if there seems to be a plan to go along with it, but this just screams of, "Let's throw this stupid thing on screen and see what happens!" Without a plan of any kind, how could this amount too much?

Chad Nevett: FICTION. How would this get anyone over? I'm puzzled by the idea and would think that the sheer stupidity of this gimmick is so obvious that nothing more need be said.

Score: 4 for 5

6. Chris Hero will be a star in WWE.

JP Prag: FACT. Star? Sure. Superstar? That's another story entirely. At some point he'll be called up to the main roster and will appear on SmackDown for a while. Some people will know who he is and he'll get some semblance of a chance. Will that chance amount to much is another story, but he'll be more well known just by his appearances on SmackDown than his years in other circuits, and that makes him some type of star.

Chad Nevett: FICTION. I honestly have no idea. It's a crapshoot when it comes to the WWE. I think he has just as good a chance as anyone else in developmental, possibly a little better given his in-ring and mic abilities. But, so much will depend on how the WWE sees him. I know a lot of people want to see the Kings of Wrestling reunite, but look at how the WWE treats its tag teams. That could be a quick ride to the eternal midcard. I'm saying fiction, because, most likely, he won't be a star in the WWE. Not many people are -- and those that become stars do so because of luck more than anything. Talent is a factor, but it's luck that matters most.

Score: 4 for 6

7. Sting should have went to WWE last year instead of remaining with Impact Wrestling.

JP Prag: FICTION. This was one of the toughest questions for me. For those who don't know, I was a huge WCW mark and therefore my loyalties do not lie with WWE. Part of me would have loved to see Sting do a match in WWE, especially at WrestleMania, even knowing that he'd lose to the Undertaker and WCW would be buried again. But the other part of me likes this: Sting will always be the biggest name to have never worked for WWE in any capacity. That is an amazing story unto itself and speaks volumes of how someone can be a great success in this industry without WWE or Vince McMahon. There's almost a romance to being able to say he never did it and always went with the option that worked best for him and his loyalties, and that is something I respect.

Chad Nevett: FICTION. Sure, he would have gotten to wrestle at 'Mania and made lots of fans cream their jeans... but it wasn't what Sting wanted. I try not to second-guess personal decisions made by others. I know, that's avoiding the point of the question, but that's how it is. Sting thought TNA was a better fit for him and maybe he's right. If it made him happy and satisfied, then who am I to say that it was a mistake?

Score: 5 for 7

8. TNA needs to hold more Impact tapings on the road.

JP Prag: FACT. This was another tough one for me. The businessman side of me says staying at home is the best option because it is cheaper, people work for TNA because they get to travel less, and they don't have to move any equipment. But watching that show from England last week made me realize how different the product can be in other locations. Honestly, I have nothing against the iMPACT Zone crowd or the size of the arena; all of that works fine to me. But seeing and hearing a different crowd creates another type of product and forces TNA wrestlers and writers and work outside what they are used to. So if they can turn more house shows in to television tapings, all the better.

Will it suddenly increase ratings and give them that huge boost they are looking for? No, of course not. However, it will force them to create new presentations and listen to other audiences, and hopefully that will be one of the elements that will work in their favor to move the product into another stratosphere. As Eric Bischoff said before he came to TNA, they need to have a unique value proposition to make the product be something people want to invest their time and interest in. Well, I'm still waiting for that unique value proposition, so perhaps this will force their hand a little bit more.

Chad Nevett: FACT. One of the things that drove me away from TNA was the atmosphere of Impact. Holding tapings in the same venue all of the time for the same fans clearly develops reactions that don't make sense and don't present the show in the best light. They don't always seem like they want to be there. When TNA goes on the road, it draws fans that genuinely want to see the show, that want to support it... and that makes a difference. A mixture of regulars and tourists isn't the best environment for a wrestling show to exist in, particularly if that's the public face of the company.

Final Score: 6 for 8

It's always great to have JP & Chad around, and they've given us a lot to think about this week. Feel free to chime in down in the comment section with what you think about the various topics, who you agreed with more, or who you thought was completely off their rocker. Thanks to JP & Chad for their contributions, and we'll be back here next week with more Wrestling Fact or Fiction!

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evan bourne wont be fired by WWE, FACT..

Posted By: Guest#0959 (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 11:20 PM

i see people wearing CM Punk shirts all over WWE and other wrestling organizations, Punk is very popular. as for sting, he is a idiot. have fun in that 2nd rate company down in florida where the old people are, Sting..

Posted By: Guest#1377 (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 11:26 PM

JP... Resurrect Hidden Highlights!!!

Posted By: Neuce6 (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 11:30 PM

If they can't do more shows on the road, the very least TNA should do is have every PPV outside of the impact zone.

Take a look back at 2008, they had eight PPVs held outside of Orlando and each one did draw a reasonable good crowd averaging about three or four thousand per show, Lockdown with Joe and Angle had about six thousand. Except for Lockdown and BFG now, none seem to be held out of Orlando anymore.

Watch the crowd in the london show, they where excited and rooting and cheering everything that went on and I could tell the roster had more energy wrestling there. It's easier to perform and work in front of people who want to be there and have paid to see a show than it is with people who are always there or aren't interested in the show and are just hanging out not really caring what's going on in the ring.

Posted By: Michael (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Like I said in another article, Miz was left holding the bag for Survivor Series's low buyrate because R-Truth was about to be sent packing for a one-month vacation, and they sure as hell weren't going to call out John Cena and The Rock for it (since they're about to headline a PPV with a match booked almost a year ago). Is it unfair to lay all the blame on Miz's doorstep instead of including anyone else on the card or the creative team? Absolutely. But fairness is not always a word that describes WWE's business practices or politics.

On the dive...yes, Miz absolutely deserves the heat for the botch. He clearly sidestepped Truth and let him splat to the ground instead of helping to protect his opponent on the way down, and the locker room has every right to be mad at him for that.

Posted By: Nick M. (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Here is my biggest fear of the Natalya farting gimmick. Imagine if it gets in the way of matches. Fucking fart jokes IN the two minute matches.

Hell I can see WWE "creative" acutally having Natalya's matches be longer than normal diva matches BECAUSE they want to drive home the gimmick.

That bothers me. This gimmick is like the Hornswaggle bullshit in 09 where I felt insult because WWE "creative" was writing down to me.

I know WWE is PG and shit but it depends on the writing/booking not the rating and this is one of those times where I just feel insulted as a long time viewer. But I know my era is a dying one and I can definatly see myself watching mostly YouTube videos of wrestling I liked over the modern stuff in the next couple of years because I genuinly don't like too much wrestling any more. Mostly the build up to Mania for the WWE and the Lockdon (mostly Lethal Lockdown match) for TNA.

Posted By: Guest#9214 (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 11:55 PM

I can truly understand why Stinger didn't go to the E, because he wants control over his character, more than anything else. Sting v. Taker would've been gold, but that's something I'd like to see at Summerslam, where Sting has a better chance. I was never big into WCW, although I love watching the early years, and Sting has always been a favourite of mine.

Posted By: OpTimistic (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Wow, Prag, you have been MISSED! Consider coming back. There is some serious misrepresentation going on around here and The Hamilton Avenue Journal could set some people straight on a regular basis.

Posted By: We Want Prag! (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 12:30 AM

How would Sting losing to the Undertaker at Wrestlemania be a burial of WCW? Sting has buried himself and WCW by association by ducking the opportunity to give his fans a match they always wanted in favor of collecting a paycheck in a third rate promotion like TNA. Even Goldberg gave his fans one more run.

Posted By: Guest#0531 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Sting should have gone to WWE and ended the streak of the UT, FACT.
Although....
UT streak should have been ended a couple WM ago, FACT. This streak business used to hold weight when it was gripping, exciting, and something to look forward to (Goldberg streak). So, this so-called WM streak doesn't seem that relevant as it COULD be, FACT.

Posted By: Guest#2066 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 01:19 AM

If TNA wants to improve their ratings they need to go live. Unless something changes this week, going on the road does nothing for the ratings. It would also get rid of the annoying piped in crowd noise that taped shows have.

Posted By: Guest#4991 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 01:45 AM

One thing I don't understand is this: I always hear people say that Sting is smart to not come to WWE because they'd bury him by having him lose to Undertaker at WrestleMania. How is losing to one of the hardest to beat stars at an event where he's never LOST, getting buried? He would lose yes, but he'd put up a great fight, and Lose to someone who rarely loses, and do it in front of 70,000 people and 500,000-1,000,000 people on PPV then how many more on DVD. That's not getting buried. That's losing to the Undertaker at Mania. Triple H did it twice. As did Shawn.

Posted By: Guest#7406 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 02:35 AM

Nor the abuse he regularly gets from the commentary crowd down below
=======================================
Good shout.

Posted By: Guest#6629 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 03:03 AM

the kings of wrestling are heading to WWE.. and did you know Chikara Pro claimed Claudio Castagnoli set the all-time holding a guy up for a vertical suplex record with 70 seconds..
They claim he broke the record set by Kenta Kobashi of 54 seconds, which happened in Japan...

Posted By: Guest#7472 (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 11:23 PM

I'm fairly sure Kobashi or Claudio could have held the suplex longer but i don't think the crowd would stand for a spot that took over 2-3 minutes.

Posted By: Guest#7278 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 03:25 AM

Chads dead on target with his views on Miz. Blaming SS buys on him is pretty stupid. The Rocks the one expected to be the selling point! Why would the Miz?

A farting gimmick? Thats bullshit and pretty demeaning to Natalya. Although she could always team up with RVD and his ass sweat stains!

Posted By: Earl (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 03:38 AM

I deeply dislike the Miz character. I don't watch him. He did sidestep Truth. Like flinching I guess? It is a habit he does not want to continue. As for Survivor series. Though he is not credible the whole damn thing sure is not on him. The Royal Rumble was shit. NOMORE FUCKING ANNOUCERS IN RING AND PLEASE GET RID OF COLE NOW. The farting thing. Sorry, but it makes me laugh and it will lead to fued with Santino lol. Someone like Kelly Kelly who cant wrestle for a shit should be stuck with this not Nat who is a fantastic wrestler. Again, sorry this stupidity makes me laugh.

Posted By: bull666 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 03:41 AM

Sting has stayed with TNA i beleive because he still has the hope for trying to make the company grow and possibly trying to keep building a company is more interesting for him than the lure of a one-off big match.

Remember people, yes it sucked, but Sting was involved with the Starrcade 97 match which is one of the biggest built/hyped matches in Wrestling History, he as such doesn't need the buzz of a big match he's had them before.

Mind he is superb in his GM role which maybe something WWE could use him for if he did ever move over.

Posted By: BigDaveJ (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 03:56 AM

Any kind of Twitter feud=the 21st century version of talking shit about someone and having ti get back to that person.

Posted By: Guest#5889 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 04:52 AM

Guys like Miz as maineventers is the reason so many people took wrestling as a joke.

Posted By: ermacermac (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 07:14 AM

except for some nerds nobody will care about the items discussed in this column, fact!

Posted By: Guest#1208 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 07:19 AM

"...Sting has buried himself and WCW by association by ducking the opportunity to give his fans a match they always wanted in favor of collecting a paycheck in a third rate promotion like TNA...

Posted By: Guest#0531 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 12:52 AM"

This is an idiotic statement. There's a good chance Vince would have paid him more for a couple month buildup to the WM match and the match itself than he makes all year in TNA. This renders your argument invalid.

Oh, and it should be Sting should have gone to WWE last year instead of remaining with Impact Wrestling, not went to.

Posted By: DB (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 07:33 AM

Save us Y2JP Prag... Seriously... This site needs you back. The vast majority of the current writers knowledge of wrestling dates back to 1999. Its sickening.

Posted By: Guest#9203 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 07:46 AM

1.Fact, if it's what it seems it is
2.Fiction...the match sells itself
3.Fact...whatever
4.Fiction
5.Fiction....Just gotta stick it to the Harts, right?
6.Fact
7.Fiction...Would've been cool, but there's still time
8.Fact...And the product needs to improve

Posted By: BoogsNYG (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 07:47 AM

That awesome custom wrestlemania poster is proof enough that Sting should have gone to the 'E and wrestled Undertaker.

Posted By: Parxy (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 08:11 AM

I see HBK in the role of special referee... and I'm going to spoil the finish...

Undertaker down and out.... Will HHH end the STREAK??? Sweet Chin Music by Shawn to Hunter BAAAAMMM lights out... Shawn drags Taker onto HHH... Oh the suspense.. 1... 2... 3...

Taker is 20-0... and Shawn walks out of there with his cross-eyed I'm trying to be serious for the camera face amongst all the boos staring at both competitors...

Posted By: Earl Hebner (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 08:19 AM

Here is my biggest fear of the Natalya farting gimmick. Imagine if it gets in the way of matches. Fucking fart jokes IN the two minute matches.

Hell I can see WWE "creative" acutally having Natalya's matches be longer than normal diva matches BECAUSE they want to drive home the gimmick.

That bothers me. This gimmick is like the Hornswaggle bullshit in 09 where I felt insult because WWE "creative" was writing down to me.

I know WWE is PG and shit but it depends on the writing/booking not the rating and this is one of those times where I just feel insulted as a long time viewer. But I know my era is a dying one and I can definatly see myself watching mostly YouTube videos of wrestling I liked over the modern stuff in the next couple of years because I genuinly don't like too much wrestling any more. Mostly the build up to Mania for the WWE and the Lockdon (mostly Lethal Lockdown match) for TNA.

Posted By: Guest#9214 (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 11:55 PM

^^^^^^

This. This x100000.

Posted By: boXley (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 08:35 AM

Sting not coming to WWE last year will go down as one of the biggest mistakes in his career. He could have ended up with a fantastic sendoff and a spot in the hall of fame. Instead he wastes away in TNA because he doesn't want to work for Vince. What a missed opportunity.

Posted By: Mr. America (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 08:35 AM

Saying Punk/Jericho isn't the most entertaining feud going into Wrestlemania is retarded. What is better? Taker/HHH for the 3rd time? Cena/Rock that we all already know the outcome of? Some mid card match that the WWE doesn't give a shit about and will be less than 15 minutes?

And Sting resigning with TNA is stupid because TNA sucks now, if being retardedly booked makes Sting happy then good for him, no wonder he's only wrestled in WCW and TNA.

Posted By: 420 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 08:49 AM

Fact or fiction: You continue to watch WWE, because you remember better times and hope these times should return one day, while the current product pretty much sucks and bore you. ?

Posted By: ermacermac (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 08:58 AM

Sting and UT should happen next year HOF both dont announce the match just have it happen at the end of the show and after 30 minutes the lights go out and they Hebner from the building lights come up ref is alone in the ring awesome match everyone gets to see the various moves they want and no one gets a win then they both retire both get a WM spot and they can play it up on raw and show videos of both careers and then mention nothing more about them other than it was a no contest and they vanished.

Posted By: Guest (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 01:25 AM

This comment highlights two things.

1. The deplorable state of the American education system,

and

2, why 99% of the IWC should never be allowed to be part of any wrestling company's creative team.

Ever.

I hope that, after Sting's TNA career ends, that he signs a Legends contract with the WWE.

Undoubtedly, the money he would make from the DVDs alone would likely make him more money than he is making now, and as a plus, the fans whom he supposedly cares about would finally get the compilations they want.

Posted By: Darth Mortis (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 09:51 AM

Does Miz deserve heat for the fuck up with Truth and the SS buyrate. Maybe on the first one, no on the second. But if it leads to a lower profile for him I'm all for it.

Miz's positive qualities - he's has a decent heel persona and he seems to do good PR work for the company.

His negative qualities - most of his offense is terrible, his selling is worse than anyone in that company who isn't seven foot tall and from India, he can't seem to cut a promo without tripping over his words somewhere, all his little taunts and actions look retarded and he looks like a 12 year old boy.

Fuck Miz. The sooner he's off my TV the better.

Posted By: Distracto (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Face Undertaker in front of 70,000... or work with Jeff Hardy at Universal Studios in front of 300 non-paying fans. Hmmm... yea, ask Sting again once he's out of TNA and doesn't have to worry about pissing off his employers.

Posted By: Guest#1638 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 10:44 AM

4. The Miz deserves the heat he's getting from WWE management for the Survivor Series buyrate & not catching R-Truth on a dive on Raw.

FACT, FACT, FACT!!!

guys like miz being part of the heavyweight division in pro wrestling is exactly why many people dont care and wont pay to see bad main events!

in ring hes average at best, his promos are bad and his taunts look retarded...

also he is terrible at selling moves!

and as far as the truth spot... miz is 100% at fault, i hope he gets the morrison treatment!!!

make him lose a ton of matches then part ways with his useless ass!!!

Posted By: Guest#9521 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 01:05 PM

The only reason why Sting is well known and makes good money is because he was in WCW. If he was starting out tody, he wouldn't get any kind of fame or fortune unless he was in WWE. There is no way to become well known and make really big money in North America without having worked at least one time in WWE. Sad, but true.

And good to see you back Prag! How about answering this question for me. You said a few years ago when people were saying that WWE should cut back on ppv's that it didn't make fiscal sense. Yet WWE has cut back from 14 to 13 and now to a 12 ppv schedule. What can you say to all of us who said that this is what should have happened? I guess WWE doesn't know that more ppv's equal more money.

Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 01:52 PM

Jericho-Punk will be the show at Mania. Cena-Rock is what it is. Taker-HHH does nothing for me (Trips is 0-2 anyway, so it's not a rubber match). Tag match = whatever. Divas = snooze.
The only hope of combating Jericho-Punk is Bryan-Sheamus (if that holds over) and that, for me, would be a compelling thing just because last year's Mania had a dark match between the two since it got bumped. It was a good match and they both have grown since, in character and performance.

Posted By: MPMoore (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 02:37 PM

"I hope that, after Sting's TNA career ends, that he signs a Legends contract with the WWE.

Undoubtedly, the money he would make from the DVDs alone would likely make him more money than he is making now, and as a plus, the fans whom he supposedly cares about would finally get the compilations they want.

Posted By: Darth Mortis (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 09:51 AM"

I too would like to see this happen, but I bet it won't. I feel that Sting wants to show the world that he can do it by never stepping foot in a WWE ring. I think his pride is much bigger than his feelings toward his fans.

IMO, I really think he couldn't care less about his fans.

Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 03:31 PM

1) Fiction

Acknowledging the fact, that this is looking to be one of the weakest Wrestlemania cards in recent history, the only "feud" that has any rhyme or reason, it pains me to say, is Undertaker vs. HHH. Undertaker is still Undertaker and he wants the match, HHH, is arrogant enough to want to "do the deed", though now gun-shy, and you have HBK, sitting in the wings, to be that comprade, who wholeheartedly expects HHH to win, even with HHH not fully believing that himself. There's still time to build that up, and that makes the match.

What reason is there, for anyone to pay to see Punk vs. Jericho? Because Jericho thinks the world is apeing his style? Seriously?

The same type of critique can be said, pretty much, for every other match, sans Swagger(c) vs. Ryder, if it happens, and a potential Phoenix(c) vs. Natalya. Not sure why anyone, in their right mind, would pay $70 for this card, but clowns are gonna pay for it anyway.

2) Fiction

I don't have a Twitter, I don't follow Twitter, and I have no plans to follow Twitter.

3) Fact

The only way you make Taker vs. HHH 3 compelling is to add a significant wrinkle to the storyline; what better way than bring Michaels in? And frankly, he wouldn't even be needed to do all that much; Undertaker wants the match, HHH wants the match, but doesn't think he has enough left to put down Taker.

Enter HBK, whose role would be to convince HHH, that he could take down The Streak. You have Michaels stir up the competitive juices in HHH, and you have him 2nd his best friend, in "the biggest match of his career". You make the match 'Last Man Standing', as you use HBK's energy, on the outside of the ring, to add even more drama to the showdown. Would actually have a feud that folks could be happy paying for.

4) Fact

Still don't see why Miz should even be in the upper midcard.

5) Fiction

Unless she, somehow, farts her way into a title showdown against Beth Phoenix, using a fart to secure the championship.

6) Fact

Not saying that the guy will ever main event for Vinnie Mac, but he's developed a solid look, he can promo, and there's enough WWE-style work, in his repetoire, to give his ring skills a shot.

7) Fiction

Vinnie Mac would've paid him top dollar ands promoted a massive Sting DVD, only to have Taker squash him in 5 minutes, to finally crush any and all remnants of WCW. Screw vince.

8) Fiction

TNA ought to hold more tapings on the road but, frankly, they don't NEED to do anything. Prep the ground, for a fuller road tapings schedule, and understand that the deal with Universal has them taping their program, in essence, for free.

Continue to build the touring business for a future taping schedule, and take the shows to the hot areas.

Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 04:14 PM

Sting is an absolute moron or the stupidest man in the history of wrestling or the biggest hypocrite ever.

Posted By: FCT in 3D (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 04:26 PM

I wouldn't worry about the WWE reuniting the Kings-several reputable sites have reported that the WWE is only interested in pushing Claudio and Hero as singles.

Posted By: Guest#1010 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 05:17 PM

JP Prag: FACT. Assuming that is the match that is going to happen, sure. In what fashion is another question entirely. Guest referee, timekeeper, outside enforcer, in Triple H's corner--these are all options. Could it be a three-way dance? I suppose anything is possible. Of course, I wish a few years ago instead of doing Shawn Michael vs. Undertaker II that they did DX vs. The Brothers of Destruction. Shawn couldn't get the Undertaker to agree to a match, so DX should have won the tag titles and challenged Kane and the Undertaker and got the match that way. But now I'm retroactively fantasy booking, and who wants to read that?

EVERYTHING about this statement shows how stupid JP is. Really? My god, do you even know this business?

Posted By: Jimbo Slice (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 08:03 PM

And Sting resigning with TNA is stupid because TNA sucks now, if being retardedly booked makes Sting happy then good for him, no wonder he's only wrestled in WCW and TNA.

Posted By: 420 (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 08:49 AM

No its not, what is retarded is making asinine statements about a wrestling show you CLEARLY dont watch.

TNA has been putting out a great product since October complete with TNA Originals and veterans that can still go doing all the wrestling. Of course you dont know that since you dont watch TNA at all.

Posted By: Actually Watch TNA (Guest) on February 09, 2012 at 10:18 PM

"JP Prag: FICTION. Nothing on Twitter interests me at all, especially people pretending to act like petulant children. There is some underlying truth from what both John Cena and The Rock have been saying about each other over the fast year, which makes their feud believable, but we all know they are still working together and will follow the planned finish in the end. Because of that, this so-called Twitter war is just another work with some kernels of actual feelings. That hardly makes it that amazing and groundbreaking and I'd rather see it on TV than read about it with terrible spelling and grammar."

I'm sorry, but doesn't this apply for ALL professional wrestling at the end of the day?

Posted By: Candy Bottocks (Guest) on February 11, 2012 at 01:23 AM

JP... Resurrect Hidden Highlights!!!

Posted By: Neuce6 (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 11:30 PM

NO! DEAR GOD NO!!!! It started out REALLY good, but before long, people were giving credit for wrestlers doing their job, in the middle of an arena filled with thousands of people, when they didn't know for a fact that a camera was pointed at them.

THAT'S A HIDDEN HIGHLIGHT????

RIP HH

Posted By: MB (Guest) on February 11, 2012 at 02:44 AM

RE: "As for the dive with Truth, as of this time I have not seen it yet so I cannot say for sure, but I'm going with it takes two to tango. Miz would have the same amount of blame of catching someone as Truth would have of jumping correctly and the agents would have of figuring out the spot." - JP Prag

Miz was 100% to blame. He moved out of the way and Truth could've been badly injured. If you haven't seen it why would you assume Truth was partially to blame?

Posted By: Baron Skinny (Guest) on February 12, 2012 at 11:56 AM