Friday Sports Entertainment 02.10.12: Divas Division...D.O.A.
Posted by Sean Kelly on 02.10.2012
Where we explore the sad state of the Diva's Division, check out some Sports Entertainer mug shots, learn our Twitter #FF and get Funky with the Art Contest!
From Guest#2918
Wes Kirk has another column? Cool.
Who?
From Guest#8870
First off, Dolph Ziggler called and he wants his catchphrase from Z True Long Island Story (later marks) back. It works for him, not so much you.
Oh jeez, you're right. I totally didn't realize that. The "Marks" thing is officially gone. Dead. Promise.
And I found Ziggler 10 times more interesting on ZTLIS over anything he's done on TV. Am I alone in that?
Second off, until Bryan's heel turn I would have agreed with you 100%. The guy had a few good moments as a face but I didn't think he was nearly as good as the IWC proclaimed him to be.
Yeah, I know. Maybe people skimmed over the part where I explained that most of my column was an audition piece written 7 weeks ago -- before the heel turn? And that I was cautiously optimistic about where Bryan was headed as a heel?
You're column wasn't bad except you come of like kind of a douche with all the "screwheads" and "later marks" and "that's what I thought" and other things you seem to be trying to make into catchphrases. Tone that down a tad and I think you'll be alright.
"Marks" is dead. Can't be ripping off The Zig Zag Man, not even unintentionally. "Screwheads" stays, because it's Bruce Campbell, dammit!
Thank you for the honest feedback Guest#8770. As a sign of appreciation, I will name my next child after you
. From Guest #1037
So anybody have a prediction on when Sean Kelly and Wes Kirk have a blow off to this pseudo-feud?
Who??
From RC:
Allow me to clarify that I meant why do I care about their [casual fans'] opinion is on who looks like a champion. I'm well aware its their money that drives the company..
Clearly you aren't a WWE shareholder. Just imagine Joe Six-Pack flipping through the channels, stopping on WWE, and seeing a small guy holding the "Heavyweight" championship. My guess is his reaction will be "ah, it's fake" and keep on flipping (to UFC!). I've seen it happen.
A publicly traded company's mission is to grow, and that's why they care about the casual fan's opinion on who looks like a champion. Casual fans do, after all, drive the company with their money.
P.S. I love your cola.
From Guest#9657
wes kirk wanna be, your a dweeb
WHO???
Greetings Marks Folks, and welcome to the one and only Friday Sports Entertainment! Yeah!
Lots of great conversation on the Daniel Bryan piece last week. I love a good debate. I know I'm new here, so let me explain how I operate:
I'm confident, but I have zero ego. I am open-minded enough where I can be convinced otherwise on any opinion I have. I'm not pig headed enough to cling to my beliefs in the face of a really good counter-argument. So please use the comments section to your heart's content. As a famous mass-murderer used to say: "Prove me wrong!"
As far as sports entertainment goes, I'm more of a "Watch RAW on a 30 min DVR Delay and read SmackDown spoilers" kinda guy. I don't watch NXT or Superstars at all. The new Tough Enough is great, and I haven't missed an episode. I couldn't be bothered with Impact, though. There I said it.
Anyway, what are your viewing habits? I'd imagine many of you do something similar.
DIVAS D.O.A.
This week, I'll be discussing the sorry state of the WWE Divas division. With a few notable exceptions, the Divas division has been lacking any true Sports Entertainment talent. The running gag seems to be that the obligatory Divas match is the "piss break" match, when it's time to go relieve yourself or grab a snack. And you know what? That's a damn shame.
Women's wrestling, when it's done right, can be a very entertaining and lucrative endeavor. The key phrase there being "when it's done right." The WWE seems to be going through the motions with the Divas division, to the point where it's essentially useless to even have one.
Who remembers the Trish vs. Mickie James match from WrestleMania 22? That night, I had a bunch of non-fans over to watch the big event, and that match got some of the biggest reactions of the night – especially this part:
How many memorable Divas matches have there been in the last 2-3 years? (Save Melina vs. Alicia Fox, of course).
I can't think of any. Granted, my DVR is usually on Fast Forward during a Divas match, but these days they last all of 2-3 minutes, so it's not like I'm missing anything substantial. Most of the time it's a series of botched moves, and the Divas tend to run the ropes like they're afraid the ropes will break. Pay attention next time you watch a Divas match. Chances are, they'll do a sad little bounce off the ropes, followed by a run that looks more like Peggy Bundy walking.
STARTING POSITIVE
Right now, there are only three divas that stand out to me. Those Divas are Kharma, Beth Phoenix, and Natalya. These three ladies are great in the ring, they look good, and they have great gimmicks that resonate with fans. (Well, not so much lately with Natalya, but we'll get to that later.) They bring both the Sports and the Entertainment to the product. I have nothing but praise for them, and I hope history will look upon them as some of the all-time great female wrestlers – they certainly have the skills necessary to have long, successful careers.
Also, to be fair, I haven't seen much of Tamina, Kaitlyn, AJ and Aksana. They're involved in a lot of backstage or ringside stuff, but it's hard to judge their performances since they are relatively new to the Diva scene. So let's exclude them from the scope of this column, shall we? (For now). Readers, if you can share your take on these four ladies, I'd be happy to hear it.
Now, onto the bile spewing.
Here's the number of good matches I've had!
NO RELATION, I SWEAR
Personally, I feel that the worst offender of all the Divas is Kelly Kelly, the John Cena of the Divas division. This smiling blonde is the feel-good wholesome chick of the WWE, pulling out crazy wins with her nigh unstoppable Rollup of Doom. She's always so happy and upbeat! Too bad she can't wrestle worth a damn. And her gimmick, much like John Cena's, is cheesy even by WWE standards. But while it works for Cena to some degree, it doesn't work so much for Kelly Kelly. She's eye candy at best, a shining example of what's wrong with the Divas division at worst. No Sports + No Entertainment = No Thanks.
This woman has no talent: not in the ring, not on the mic, not even when she was pretending to be a stripper back in ECW. She's one of those dime-a-dozen blondes that traipses through the WWE, but she's somehow managed to overstay her welcome. It's like people cheer for her because they're told to. What is it about Kelly Kelly that's worth cheering for? Anybody? Please, enlighten me.
In a perfect world, Team WWE UniverseNationArmy would respond to her in the same way they respond to Cena. I'd love nothing more to see her booed out of an arena, especially from a "smart" crowd like New York or Chicago. I'd be elated to see the "yay/boo" cheers take place when Beth Phoenix and Kelly Kelly trade punches. After all, why should Kelly Kelly be spared the ire of the fans when she's a much worse offender than Cena? At least Cena has a charisma about him and can wrestle well when he needs to. Kelly comes across as a vapid empty vessel, both in the ring and on the mic. I don't know if it's political correctness or what, but people who don't like the untalented Divas tend to just stay quiet or applaud politely. Or maybe it's hard to voice your opinion as part of the audience while you're taking a leak.
Speaking of which, did you see the crowd reaction after the Divas match this past RAW? The faces won a decisive victory after Tamina hit her father's signature "Superfly" splash. And this is how the crowd reacted:
And the crowd goes wild!
You'd think they were at a funeral. I particularly enjoy the body language of the lady on the right, desperately trying to stay awake. Remember this pic took place RIGHT AFTER THE FACES WON BY EXECUTING ONE OF THE MOST MEMORABLE MOVES IN SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT!
HARD WORK ISN'T ENOUGH
The most common defense of the Divas, to paraphrase, is "leave them alone! They work hard!" So freaking what? Lots of people try hard and still suck, that doesn't mean they deserve a push to the moon. With hard work should come improvement, but if you're still shitty after nearly six years, you're not likely going to get much better. Trying hard isn't enough. You have to be able to GET BETTER.
With Kelly, I'm thinking that the WWE was hoping for another Trish Stratus. Trish came in as a fitness model – a pretty face with no in-ring experience. But the difference with Trish is that you actually saw improvement year over year. She got a lot more comfortable in the ring, on the mic, and as a champion. With Kelly, I can't say I've seen a significant improvement over the years. A little maybe, but not much.
And it's not just Kelly Kelly. Eve, the Bellas, and Alicia Fox all have the same problems. Who here doesn't cringe when watching Eve "act" with Zack Ryder or Kane? And I get genuinely concerned for the welfare of anyone who steps into the ring with Alicia Fox. All these women are bland, interchangeable T&A. That's it. Maybe the WWE needed some eye candy back in the day, but this is 2012. I can watch RAW and look for better eye candy on the internet if I want to. Just please, give me some talented eye candy!
Double the sexy, half the talent!
DEVIL'S DIVA'S ADVOCATE
Lack of talent is only part of the equation, though. Sometimes I'm convinced that the Powers-That-Be in the WWE feel the same way I do. There's a reason why the Divas are only given a single 2-3 minute match every week. If the WWE had any faith in them, the Divas would get more air time to show off their skills and display a little personality. If the Divas aren't being booked with any sense of faith, how are they supposed to entertain anyone? How are these ladies supposed to improve when they're rarely given any compelling storylines? Why should we care when it's implied that the company doesn't? So it's not like the fault lies entirely on the shoulders of the ladies.
OFFERING SOLUTIONS, NOT PROBLEMS
One thing that drives me crazy is when some nitwit at work drops bombs on everyone – telling folks what they're doing wrong while having no idea on how to do it better. After all, it's super easy to armchair quarterback. Well, I have a few notions on how to improve the Divas division. Here's how I would fix things if I were in charge of the Divas:
END THE FIFTH GRADE DANCE
The current WWE product is a lot like a fifth grade dance. There's a bunch of boys standing on the left side of the gym, a bunch of girls standing on the right, and an empty dance floor in between. There are dozens of muscle-bound guys touring all over the country with over a dozen attractive women, and we're supposed to believe that there's nothing going on between them?
90% of songs on the radio are about love in some way, shape or form. There's a massive amounts of romance novels sold every year. People like Jennifer Aniston and Meg Ryan have had lucrative careers starring in romantic comedies. So where's the romance in World Wrestling Entertainment? At one time, Spike freaking Dudley was main eventing RAW with the crowd firmly behind him, because he was the dweeb that got the girl (Molly Holly). At that time, Spike Dudley was one of the most over guys on the roster because people wanted to see him succeed with the ladies. Why aren't they doing that today? Programs like that elevate the boy, elevate the girl, and elevate the villain that tries to come between them.
Recent romantic angles, like Zack Ryder and Eve, seem forced and have no logic to them. Eve gave Zack a pity date, but he was attacked by Kane, and Eve reacts (overacts) like she just lost her soulmate. Come on. That's not how you do romance, WWE. I'm not talking about a half-assed romance angle, but something like an unspoken, heartstring-pulling crush like the Jim & Pam saga from the Office. Or the smoldering sexual tension between Bruce Willis and Cybill Shepherd in Moonlighting. Something subtle and long term that has a big payoff. Just imagine if a Diva dated and then unceremoniously dumped John Cena on camera. What kind of impact do you think that would have on her career?
BETTER CHARACTERIZATION
Similar to my criticism of Babyface Daniel Bryan, I have the same problem with most of the Diva roster. I have no idea what these ladies are about. The faces smile, the heels sneer, and they put on a crappy match. Why should I care again?
We all get what Vickie Guerrero is about – she's the cougar trying to build a power-base in the WWE. She's the most over female on the roster, but isn't included as a Diva on WWE.com's Divas section. She has more of an interesting backstory than the rest of the Divas combined, and it shows. What are the major differences between Alicia, Eve, and Kelly Kelly? I sure can't think of any. Can you?
The ladies need better characterization. Where's the prude? Where's the hot country bumpkin who's new to the big city? Where's the classy, Miss Elizabeth type? Where's the man-stealer? Where's the gossipy "Mean Girl?" I just thought of these off of the top of my head. Surely WWE's Creative department can come up with something interesting for the ladies.
The best Divas gimmicks going today are Pinup Strong and Kharma killing bitches. Of course, the WWE had to go ahead and kill whatever momentum Pinup Strong had by making Natalya into the Diva-Who-Farts. This just boggles the mind. Why take someone who has a perfectly good thing going and undermine it by sticking her with a stupid flatulence problem? Yes, it made me laugh, but why not make it Rosa Mendes who farts? Then at least she'd have something distinctive about her. Poor Nattie. For what it's worth, she's doing a good job selling the thing. (Maybe too good of a job.)
DIFFERENT RECRUITING
This is just speculation on my part, but I'm convinced that the WWE mainly recruits their Divas from modeling agencies. A few, like Tamina and Nattie, are the offspring of former Sports Entertainers, but most of the others seem to be hired for their looks first, and talent second.
If they're going to go that route, why not hit up some acting majors instead? Get some recent graduates who were drama majors that have some acting talent and good looks. I'm sure many of them would jump at the chance to get a steady gig right out of college. Send them to developmental for 2-3 years and have them debut when they're 23 or 24 years old. This would give the company a steady stream of good looking ladies with acting chops that have learned the basics. I'm sure that the results would be much better than what we're seeing today.
That, or just raid the Knockouts Division.
YOUR TURN, SCREWHEADS
What do you think, Team 411 UniverseNationArmy? Does Kelly Kelly suck as much as I think she does? How would you improve the Divas division? Does writing an article like this make me a misogynist? Let me know in the comments section below, or drop me a line.
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SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT ART CONTEST
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You make a sound argument and your writing isn't bad but what is the point of trying to sound like a douche?
It looks like you're just trying to add a personality to the column but in my opinion you are failing. You sound fake.
Anyways this is what I wrote for the Wednesday Wire and thankfully I can reuse it here:
The Divas Division of the WWE should be something like this:
Top
Kharma - H
Beth Phoenix - H
Natalya - F
Sara Del Rey - F
Middle
K2 - F
The Bellas - H
Eve - F
Layla - F
Michelle McCool - H
Tanima - F
Bottom
Kaytlin - F
AJ - H
Saraya Knight - F
Lingerie Football Chick - H
Posted By: Dr Wiki (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM
...and never reading again.
Posted By: Guest#6260 (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 12:50 AM
You're over use of sports entertainment and sports entertainers is really gonna make my head explode. I don't care how u twist it turn it and describe it its still wrestling and they're still wrestlers. With that being said, I did enjoy the column this week. I really can't say that the wwe is dropping the ball bcuz I just don't think they care. They had momentum with The Divas of Destruction thing and could have really built off that but I guess they figured it wasn't worth putting too much time into. They have marketable women but it seems like they're just like "eh". Its sad really because its the same thing with the tag division. Don't seems they care bout that either.
My viewing habits are basically if I'm home and a wake ill pretty much watch it. I dvr raw and smackdown every week, ill watch TNA if I'm up in time to catch some (work graveyard shift), I faithfully watch roh every Thurs morning and I try to catch FCW, NXT, and superstars online when I'm at work bored. But I guess that's the difference between "sports entertainment" fans and "wrestling" fans. I love wrestling and as long as it entertains me ill watch it
Posted By: SuperCorky (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 02:17 AM
Here's my question:
If I'm a baseball fan, why would I read a column by a guy who can't be bothered to pay attention to the American League?
If I'm a football fan, why would I read a column by a guy who can't be bothered to pay attention to the NFC?
If I'm a basketball fan, why would I read a column by a guy who can't be bothered to pay attention to the Western Conference?
If I'm an MMA fan, why would I read a column by a guy who can't be bothered to pay attention to Bellator?
So as a wrestling fan, why should I read a column by a guy who can't be bothered to pay attention to TNA?
Posted By: Freddie Prince Jr. (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 02:21 AM
This is what happens when WWE fanboys who refuse to acknowledge any non-WWE wrestling are given a column.
We get a entire column devoted to fucking Divas!
You write that women's wrestling can be lucrative. Name me one goddamn woman wrestler who'e ever drawn a dime or been anything other than material for a teenagers spank bank?
It's fitting that you used the Mickie James-finger bang-palm lick clip as an example of when the divas were "good".
Face it: For adults in the PG era, the Divas are like Playboy. Sure they're all gorgeous, but it's just airbrushed tits and pubic hair, and that's just not going to get the job done. We miss the graphic internet porn that was the Divas in the Attitude Era.
Posted By: Douchy McDouchebag (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 02:34 AM
I don't know if Kelly is as bad ad you think because she is one of the better wrestling Divas they have but being above average in a bad lot doesn't make her good, either. The biggest way to fix the division is to care. The WWE has constantly shown through who it employs and how it runs the division that they don't care and it shows. If they don't care no one else will.
Regarding your viewing habits you should dvr Impact and Smackdown and catch them when you can. Impact has improved to the point that it is sometimes the best wrestling show of the week and Smackdown is where the WWE tried different things. That can be good, Sheamus face turn, Bryan heel turn and push, and Henry push. It can also be bad, Natalya farting and lowrider bicycles. Its always interesting though.
Posted By: gpjunk (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 03:51 AM
Womens wrestling can work if they can actually wrestle get a regular amount of tv time...
Posted By: MacDollarz. (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 05:03 AM
A few weeks ago the main event on Raw was Beth vs Eve which lasted thirty seconds. This was just after Gail Kim and Mickie James had a very good match in the Main Event on Impact with over ten minutes and many here applauded it. As if Vince and WWE was saying that women can't wrestle and don't deserve time. You could put all the diva matches in a month period and combine the match time and still they'd be shorter than the average weekly KO match.
Posted By: Michael (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 01:09 PM
You're right on about Kelly. They want to make another Trish, but she doesn't have enough athletic discipline and the E doesn't want to make her "too big" that she'll ditch wrestling.
I think they're missing the boat with Eve. She's pretty enough, does not look frail, and has some MMA training. A poor man's Gina Carano.
I remember the division was thriving while Finlay was booking it. They need him back.
Posted By: Guest#3022 (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 01:28 PM
The number one problem the Divas division faces is that they are booked as physically and emotionally weak. The WWE has refused to book any woman wrestler to look strong/badass except Chyna and perhaps Kharma. And tellingly, they both get a better reaction than most anyone else... Chyna legitimately was a draw and made money for the WWE (and even Playboy, somehow).
The knockouts were for a long time booked to look tough as nails, and garnered the highest rated segments on the show. Their division nosedived when classic misogynist Hogan took over, and sold that inane radio DJ to be stronger than Kharma (who, lets be honest, would rip that skinny desk jockey to shreds in a shoot fight), after she punched him backstage.
It drives me nuts to see skinny refs overpower, say, Beth Phoenix. Not only is she actually more muscular and athletic then them--it shouldn't matter. If you don't book your wrestlers--male or female--to look strong, the audience will not care about them. WWE refs *should ref bump for the divas*. And they should stop calling them divas.
Posted By: Joe Schmoe (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 01:44 PM
i doubt they would be able to raid much from the knockouts division after Gail Kim. she has tons of talent and if given a story can show the ladies how its done. she went back for the paycheck and was not happy with the fact she pretty much wasn't allowed to wrestle. kinda bs for her. if you want good women's wrestling do check out TNA. Kelly has gotten better in the last few years, and i don't dislike Eve. I think that Eve can semi go in the ring and if she and Kelly keep getting better than we may hopefully have a resugence in a few years. if we don't lose the few truly talented Divas we have. WWE has, Beth, Natalya, Tamina, Kharma and if Eve and Kelly can bring their game up just a few more notches we could see a decent Diva's division for a couple of years. Layla should be back soon and that will only help things, she was pretty good. Fox does look like she's gonna hurt someone every time out. Ashly Massaro may have sucked something awful but she at least took the hit to her over all presentation to maintain safety.
Posted By: the mecca. (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 03:15 PM
Showing Mickie James grabbing Trish Stratus's cootch only proves how useless they women are as wrestlers. The only reason the divas aren't over anymore is because they can't do the raunchy stuff they could years ago. Now that they can't act like sluts anymore, nobody cares. Trish showed up last year, minus the bleach blonde hair and fake tits, and nobody cheered for her. Nuff said.
Womens wrestling has never drawn, and never will. TNA Knockouts doing 1.2 ratings and getting pops in a Universal Studios soundstage, or Shimmer selling out a high school gym doesn't count, for the morons that might try and go there.
Posted By: Guest#7319 (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 06:59 PM
A few weeks ago the main event on Raw was Beth vs Eve which lasted thirty seconds. This was just after Gail Kim and Mickie James had a very good match in the Main Event on Impact with over ten minutes and many here applauded it. As if Vince and WWE was saying that women can't wrestle and don't deserve time. You could put all the diva matches in a month period and combine the match time and still they'd be shorter than the average weekly KO match.
Posted By: Michael (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 01:09 PM
Well, Eve and Beth had a match for the biggest wrestling company in the world. Gail and Mickie wrestled in a theme park soundstage and drew a 1.0 rating. I'd say McMahon is right.
Posted By: Guest#5026 (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 07:01 PM
The question is not whether Kelly Kelly sucks. It is "does she swallow?". That would certainly give us an answer why she even is on the show.
Posted By: Guest#5201 (Guest) on February 10, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Show me one example of Women's Wrestling being "lucrative". SHIMMER is a DVD company. That's the definition of limited market. TNA doesn't get the ratings WWE does.
The Trish/Lita era was full of bra & panties matches, "live sex shows", barking like a dog, etc.
Posted By: Carl (Guest) on February 11, 2012 at 01:49 AM
Show me one example of Women's Wrestling being "lucrative". SHIMMER is a DVD company. That's the definition of limited market. TNA doesn't get the ratings WWE does.
The Trish/Lita era was full of bra & panties matches, "live sex shows", barking like a dog, etc.
Posted By: Carl (Guest) on February 11, 2012 at 01:49 AM
The only reason Trish and Lita were popular is because they were around in an era when you still had Rock, Austin, Angle, Lesnar, Jericho, HHH and Undertaker in their primes, rising stars like Cena, Batista, Orton, the McMahons were still regular characters, etc. They were also allowed to interact with these male stars much more than they are now. And of course all the slutty stuff you mentioned already.
Point is, womens wrestling has never drawn. Trish, Lita, Stacy, Sable, Torrie were right place, right time.
Posted By: Guest#9423 (Guest) on February 11, 2012 at 03:09 PM
Problem is WWE's policy of hiring bikini models & trying to teach them to wrestle instead of good looking female wrestlers like some of the SHIMMER girls. Kelly's been around since 2006 but she still runs the ropes like it's her first week in the business. Girls like Fox, Eve & the Bella's maybe hot as hell but they haven't got a damn clue in the ring. Outside of Beth, Tamina & Natalya none of them "know a wristlock from a wristwatch".
Until WWE changes their policy on who they hire & why things are never gonna change.
Posted By: Scottish_Dave (Guest) on February 11, 2012 at 11:20 PM
I must tell you that you are 100% correct. I do remember a time when women's wrestling was good, and should be like that again. Unfortuneatly, as long as HHH and Steph are in charge, women's wrestling will continue to suck, Kelly Kelly clones will continue to waste 2 minutes of my life every week, and talented competitors will have bad gimmicks and made to look foolish.
Posted By: awsome69 (Guest) on February 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM
The divas as you stated suffer from a lack of personality more than anything. WWE has proven for years that you don't have to be good or barely even carryable in the ring to find success. We have no reason to give a shit about them and the company could seem to care less. Lita and Trish being draws is debatable but I really don't see a reason to argue about mid-carders being draws in the first place, WWE sells itself as the draw, then performers like Cena, 'taker, HHH and Mysterio, not Kofi not Cody not the divas. The divas could add a lot to the product as match filler and as a boost to the male performers as valets/managers. As long as shows like "tuff enuff" are around and Johnny Ace keeps using his Macy's catalog to find talent the divas division is screwed.
Posted By: K. Bett (Guest) on February 16, 2012 at 12:31 AM
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