Ask 411 Wrestling 12.05.12: Making Main Eventers, Injuring Chairmen, Walking Away, More!

So I’ve decided. December 19, 2012, I will post my final ever Ask 411 Wrestling. It’s been a hell of a ride, but I just won’t have the time or effort available to do this thing justice. You’ll just have to make do till next year.

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Oh, right, sorry, final ever Ask 411 Wrestling for the year, sorry, my bad. Yeah, the month of January is just impossible for me to do this, with work to pay off the whole ‘Holiday Credit Card debt’ thing. I’ll be leaving you in the capable hands of Ryan Byers, and be back on… Jan 30th.

Huh. I didn’t plan that out right. Ah well, I’ll be at the end by then, that I can handle.

I think.

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Backtalking

Hating Cena: Back when Hulkamania was running wild, truly and undeniably, you saw a Hogan match maybe once a month on TV. He was talked about a lot, may even have an interview/segment each week, but you saw him fight a couple of times a month if you were lucky/went to a house show.

You could see John Cena wrestle three times last week.

You cannot compare Hogan to Cena in terms of exposure. The business is different now, and that requires a different business model. And I’m not at all saying that he has to be fired or anything, just that Cena does not have to be in a program that is front and center and takes up an hour of a three hour show with recaps.

Your Turn, Smart Guy…

Who am I? I’m a former world champion, but I worked as a jobber in two major companies while working the Indies. My first match as a full fledged member of the WWE was a victory over a guy who had been both Cruiserweight and Hardcore Champion. The first guy to make me tap out once I became famous is a guy who now isn’t in the spotlight. I won my feud with Shawn Michaels (technically) and won my last match with the WWE. I’ve dated a former Women’s Champion, held something that isn’t really a title but kinda is, and once feuded with a ring announcer. Who am I?

Jason Alan has the answer.

Who am I? I’m a former world champion (TNA World Heavyweight Championship),
but I worked as a jobber in two major companies (WWF Jakked/WWE Sunday Night Heat/Velocity and TNA Xplosion).
while working the Indies (All-Star Championship Wrestling).
My first match as a full fledged member of the WWE was a victory over a guy who had been both Cruiserweight and Hardcore Champion (Funaki).
The first guy to make me tap out once I became famous is a guy who now isn’t in the spotlight (Chris Benoit).
I won my feud with Shawn Michaels (technically) (eliminated HBK from the Royal Rumble),
and won my last match with the WWE (in a 10-man tag team match with MVP, Jerry Lawler, John Cena, and Batista vs. The Miz, Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase, The Big Show, and Randy Orton).
I’ve dated a former Women’s Champion (ODB, former TNA Knockout’s Champion),
held something that isn’t really a title but kinda is (Money in the Bank),
and once feuded with a ring announcer (Tony Chimel).

Who am I? Ken Kenderson!… uuhhh Annnedy! Asdfghjkl; Mr. Anderson!
(Anderson!)

Alan!

Rob gets to be the first to officially get his YTSG question asked in this column. Apart from me. And the other writers who have done this column. And Gamble…

Just take it away already.

Who am I? The son of stripes, I grew up fascinated by hot rods. One of my nicknames is extremely ironic considering the accusations brought against me early in my career, which cost me my first real big break in the biz. A finishing move I popularized has become a family trademark … of another family. My tag team partner even used that very move to win his first and only world title. I played a “Dead Man” months before Mark Callaway, I’ve wagered away both my mask and my hair, I stole my final show, and my passing made headines in a foreign land. Un Maquina Amor, I am?

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Rob!

Questions, Questions, Who’s Got The Questions?

Brendon starts us off with WWF… In the NWA?

In a recent wwe.com article, they explain that a WWF microphone was at a WCW press conference for NWA tag tournament. wwe.com explains that it is a mystery why it was there. Is there any background knowledge on why it was there other than to make viewers assume WWF would be a part of the tournament? Here is what they wrote and the image:

During the May 2, 1992, edition of WCW Saturday Night, a press conference was held to announce an impending NWA World Tag Team Championship Tournament designed to fill the titles left vacant by The Steiner Brothers. It played out like a press conference would, but something didn’t quite look right in the microphones included on the podium.

That’s because two of the microphones featured flags with the classic WWE block logo on them. WWE did not participate in the tournament and was not aligned with NWA nor WCW, so it’s unclear why the company’s iconic logo appeared on the podium. Did WWE commissioner Jack Tunney intend to send the WWE World Tag Team Champions Money, Inc. to compete? How would they have fared against the likes of “Stunning” Steve Austin & “Ravishing” Rick Rude or Ricky Steamboat & Nikita Koloff?

Well, back at the time, Jim Ross had a radio show as well as his job in WCW, and supposedly, according to my source, someone did ask about that fact. And Ross did spin a tale that WWF was interested in sending a team down.

However, I believe it is fairly safe to say that it was there as an inside joke and/or an attempt to make the press conference and the titles mean that much more. After all, if WWF is there, that must mean this is BIG news, and that it’s a big deal!

Now sure, if TNA tried that today, WWE would sue in a heartbeat, but it was slightly different then, there were less lawsuits. Someone probably just had one of those lying around, and they threw it in for a joke and maybe to get a smidgen more attention from those paying attention.

Moises has a simple enough question.

I was wondering, do you know what the planned idea for Steve Austin was at Wrestlemania 2000 had he been healthy?

Depends on when you are asking.

If you’re asking before Wrestlemania XV, then the answer was “Paul Wight in a Hogan/Andre 2.0 deal”, wherein Austin would fight the giant in the main event of Wrestlemania 2000 to turn him into the true Hogan 2.0.

Of course, when you look at the recaps and see how Austin beat Wight clean in the lead up to WMXV, obviously this plan was scrapped early on.

After that point, what was on the cards appears to be, well, what happened at Wrestlemania X7, just a year earlier. Austin V Rock, with an Austin heel turn. Supposedly. The injury just delayed it a year, and thus arguably ruined it since to get to the point where they did they gave Austin a sort of babyface storyline heading up to it and then they turned Austin in Texas. Had it been in California, after 2 solid years of the Austin Show starring Steve Austin and Steve Austin, maybe it would have gone over better.

Assuming that the turn happened there, it might not have. But yeah, Austin V Rock. Again. Yippie.

Nightwolf has two questions. The second one comes in the opinion section.

1. We’ve all know for a long time that Undertaker has been the locker room leader in the WWE. He has commanded the most respect of all his fellow wrestlers. It’s no secret that Undertaker’s career is coming to a close. My question to you is: Who has become the locker room leader since Undertaker isn’t around much anymore? I mean that’s a big role to fill seeing how Undertaker is the most respected wrestler in the WWE the last 20 years.

Triple H was for a while. He had been doing it slowly but surely even when Taker was still around, especially after the roster split, when they were on different shows, he and Taker shared it.

However, right now there are conflicting reports. JR has gone on record saying that Cena had taken over, but has also said that there’s several guys who have stepped up, guys like Orton, Jericho (when he’s there) and Christian filling in the role. Which I think is indicative of just how much of a force Taker was in the locker room, since no one man is able to match him.

WWE doesn’t have a huge number of wrestlers who have been working for 20 years or whatever, guys who remember the territories as they were and what have you. Basically anyone with a long career, Cena, Orton, Jericho, Christian, Kane, Big Show and so on, is probably respected and is looked up to by the rest of the guys, to some degree. Cena’s the top dog, but rather than one Alpha Male Wolf ruling over all, it’s now a pack of Beta Male Wolves running in a pack.

Do Beta Males even exist?

*Google-Fus this question*

Oh good, they do. My analogy works!

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And it totally fits in with the name of the original question asker!

Ace holds what is, perhaps, an unpopular opinion.

Ace here,

Love the column, especially the ones more geared toward question-answering than opinions. My question is regarding the old In Your House ppv: why were they only 2 hours long from 1995-1997? Also, why was every PPV called “In Your House?” I know in April’96 they started getting cute nick-names, but why did they name every non big-4 or big-5 PPV In Your House? Why not have In Your House every may, and then other named & themed events in other months?

All of these questions basically boil down to the original concept of the IYHs, which was that they were shorter, cheaper PPV offerings put out strictly because WCW had gone to monthly PPVs. At the time, WWF didn’t think people would pay $30 bucks a month for a full fledged PPV. Instead they kept the big 5 PPVs, and then put out 2 hour $15 buck ones (soon $20) in the intervening months. They weren’t the big events, they were smaller, cheaper and less important. And rather than establish 7 brand new individual brand names for shows that weren’t originally intended to be huge, they decided instead to create one over-riding brand name that would encompass all of them, and then later on they decided on subtitles, which slowly began to take over.

I know the concept of WWF worrying about overcharging and over saturation is somewhat hard to comprehend given where they are today, but that was the thinking at the time. We gotta go to 12 PPVs a year, but 12 full fledged PPVs was asking too much, and if we go cheaper, we can undercut the competition…

Nelson has 3 questions.

Hi Mat,

A few questions for you:

1. I just finished watching the Bret Hart-Shawn Michaels DVD, which I thought was very good, but it raised a question for me. If one of the main reasons for the screw job was to prevent Bret Hart from appearing on Nitro and throwing the belt in the trash (ala Madusa), and the superstars have their own copies of the belts, why did it matter? I mean, Bret still could have gone on Nitro and thrown one of his belts in the trash, even though it was not the actual WWF title. I guess it would have more impact if Bret never actually “lost” the title, but either way he didn’t need the “hero” belt to pull this off (which I doubt he would have done anyway). Right?

You’re kinda mixing up ideas here, in that Hero title belts didn’t exist at that point. While yes, some wrestlers did have replicas made, it wasn’t nearly as common as it is now, where seemingly everyone who becomes a champ in WWE gets a replica for their own. Back then, if you wanted a title belt of your own you had to pay for it yourself, whereas today, thanks to John Cena and his personalised belts, title belt replicas are an income stream for the company, and they can easily take one off the production line and send it out to a wrestler. Madusa was able to toss the Women’s Title belt in the trash because it was the only one and no-one remembered to get it off her. Honky Tonk Man changed the course of wrestling history by being this close to signing with Jim Crockett while still holding the IC title, and Montreal happened to make sure Bret didn’t do the same.

However, I will give you that the ‘tossing the belt in the trash’ was more of a secondary concern. The real issue was that Vince didn’t want Eric Bischoff to go live on Nitro 3 minutes before Raw began and say that he just signed the current WWF Champion, he didn’t want to see his current WWF Champion to appear and denigrate him on the competitor’s programming, even if he gave up the title first. He may have trusted Bret, but he didn’t trust Bischoff. So he screwed Bret, to make sure Bischoff didn’t screw him. The belt being tossed in the trash was a real threat, but it was more a symbol of the real issue.

2. You seem to know a lot about US pop culture. Is that due to your own independent interest in the topic, or are we Americans correct in thinking that the whole world revolves around us?

A little from column A, a little from column B. Certainly US pop culture is far more universal than Australian pop culture. More people in my country know about Stephen Colbert…

Than Americans would know about Clarke & Dawe.

(I’d have included a better clip of Stephen, but I can’t access the Colbertnation videos. But I’ll toss in another totally meaningless and unrelated Clarke and Dawe video because I love them.)

But that said, I do take a slightly higher interest in US pop culture than most people, since I consume certain sections of it with great zeal and interact with many people who are based in the US plus, worst of all, I have a trivia focused brain, I can’t remember fellow wrestler’s real names but I can sure as hell quote Archer at you.

3. Have the Undertaker and the Rock ever had a proper feud? I know they’ve wrestled on occasion, but in thinking about both men’s careers, I can’t recall a long, drawn out feud between the two. If I’m correct, any idea why? Was it just timing, or did they not want to work with each other? Something else maybe?

As always, thanks for the column.

Nah, the two never did have a long feud. It was always one month jobs, Rock challenging for the WWF Title at King of the Ring 1999, Rock and Undertaker fighting over disrespect as a backdrop for the Flair/McMahon feud at No Way Out 2002. They never had a giant, multiple PPV spanning feud.

As for the why, it’s mostly timing. Rock and Taker were for a long time on the same side, as they were both faces for long stretches, or both heel at the same time, they didn’t have that many times when they were compatible, and worse, when they were, neither of them were the big stars in the company. KOTR99 was a backdrop to the Austin/McMahon war and Austin had to get the title back the next night anyway, while in 2002 Rock was headed for Hogan, Taker aiming for Flair.

When Taker was on top as a heel, Rock was behind Austin. When Rock was on top as a face, Taker was behind him as a face. They just never lined up right to have a long feud.

Plus, no offence to either man, but Survivor Series 98 and KOTR99 both sucked. NWO02 was just merely OK. So they may well not have that much chemistry with each other.

But it’s not all bad. They still managed to put out one of my all time favorite spots.

James asks a question we can’t ever really be sure about.

Mat,
Why did Stephanie end up as the heir apparent over Shane? Was there a power struggle? I remember during the late 90’s/early 00’s it was just assumed that Shane would eventually take over from Vince and was being groomed for that role. Then the McMahon-Helmsley Era began and Shane seemed to gradually diminish until he eventually left the company altogether. Did Vince choose Steph/Triple H over Shane? Did Shane just want to create his own legacy apart from his father? Love your column.

Steph/Hunter (the two are pretty much one package now, in that even if most people, myself included, believe Hunter’s the guy who will take over, Steph’s not going anywhere) only truly became the heir apparent when Shane left. The idea that they would take over certainly became a possibility when Steph became head of creative, but it was far from a certainty. It was only when Shane left did it truly become clear it was the outcome. There was still a real possibility that there would be a power struggle if/when Vince left the company, Shane V Triple Steph was a real chance.

But that was the real problem. Vince leaving, and how it wasn’t happening. Shane has gone on record saying that the reason he left was that Vince wasn’t. He was tired of working for his father, and since Dad wasn’t leaving, he’d quit instead.

And that is understandable, Shane’s always had his own view of how wrestling should be promotoed, and it’s different from his dad. Shane pushed for Russo, Shane pushed for the WWE Global Domination idea, Shane fell from a great height to put over Steve Blackman.

Well they can’t be all winners.

Point is, Steph didn’t push Shane out, Shane left because he didn’t see his father stepping down and giving him a chance, and he didn’t want to wait any longer waiting for Vince to be forced to step down. So he left to try his hand forming his own legacy, and giving the battle victory to Triple Steph by default.

Which is not to say that if Vince, Hunter and Steph all dropped dead from a bad batch of protein supplement simultaneously transcended their physical bodies and became beings of pure thought, independent from this mortal coil, that Shane wouldn’t return and take over. Just that he was sick and tired of waiting for said poisoning transcending to occur.

Kevin asks a question about Bill Goldberg injuring people.

Mathew, (apologies on name spelling last time, I knew if was unusual, got my wrestling “Matthews” crossed up)

When Goldberg was killing everyone in sight, I was his biggest fan. I was only 9 when he lost to Nash and my parents say I cried and stopped watching WCW that day. Looking back at some of his old matches to see how bad he really was (since my rose colored glasses are off) I realize that he was a pretty dangerous guy to work with. I know he injured La Parka and basically ended Bret Hart’s career, but did he injure or hurt anyone else? From what I’ve read, he had a bit of an ego in the locker room cause of the streak, but I have to think some guys would be more upset about his carelessness for other workers.Thanks!

Well then… He’s injured La Parka…

And he kicked Bret Hart which led to his retirement (although it was partly this, partly the hardcore match with Terry Funk a couple days later that did it, it was part of a series of concussions.)

But apart from his own self inflicted injures, I couldn’t find a record of him injuring anyone else, at least seriously. I think most of the dislike of him came from just working stiff, so that while you may not get a career halting or even career pausing injury, you might well come out of the match with bruises and a sore stomach/back/neck/whatever. He didn’t seriously injure that many people, but he may well have left many, many men sore and bruised.

But that’s just speculation. I’ve never wrestled him myself.

Hey, new Botchamania! Awesome!

… Wait, is that… Bee Boy at 7:33?

BEST BOTCHAMANIA EVER!

I do like Maffew. I also like Sugar Dunkerton (and he follows me on Twitter, so you know I’ve made him laugh a couple of times with stupid jokes he’s a cool dude and I’m also a cool dude, so this is pretty awesome.

And more Art0Donnell!

So… This actually is happening? I uh… Yeah. Wow.

And finally, He’s Hot, He’s Spicy, He’s Curry Man!

memphis b-rad asks a very simple question.

this probably falls in the “you’ve answered this question a million times” category, but I’ll ask anyway. Steamboat & mysterio are noted for working 99% of their career as a face. Is there anyone who has worked almost exclusively as a heel?

Thanks

I thought I had covered this, but was unable to find a record. Anyway, there’s a couple of guys, depending on how you count ‘almost exclusively’. The Iron Sheik was pretty much a heel for the vast majority of his run, outside of facedom for a couple of his more recent appearances. Rick Rude had only a short face run in ECW. Honky Tonk Man only had a couple of short runs as a face, one to establish him in WWF, and the other against Santino. And a few old school guys probably never worked face. I’m sure the readers will have more suggestions.

Venetian Cauliflower Gogglenuts asks a question with many answers.

I’m curious is to how you reporters actually get your inside
information. Is there a main source that all writers take the
information from? Also, have there ever been well known snitches
within the company that leaked information to the dirt sheets? Did
they ever result in firings or de-pushes (please don’t refer to
Lex/Bret. That’s been squashed). Are these snitches texting, calling,
or emailing the dirt sheets?

Thanks for the answer.

411mania culls information from a variety of sources, and is thus your one stop shop for all your wrestling news!

Sorry, got a bit of plug in my throat.

Anyway, there is no one sole source of gossip or knowledge, but rather lots of little ones. Some people high up do have ‘inside guys’ but certainly part of what I rely on is wrestler scuttlebutt, since wrestlers gossip like fishwives. But I use the internet and books and shoots and gossip and, if I have to, logical guesses. What other people is similar, except more sources if they are higher in respect and more guessing if they aren’t.

As for people leaking and being punished for it, surprisingly I know of no major situation where that has happened. Guys getting cocky about their booking getting in trouble backstage and leading to a depush, yes. Guys being caught out by the cops or something and leading to a depush, yes. But leaking information and having that directly lead to a depush… Nope.

And yet again, I’m sure the comment section will have an example I’ve missed.

My Damn Opinion

Wexington Steele has a simple enough question.

Do you think Vince would ever sign a team like Osirian Portal? I thought Vince wants to appeal to kids and these guys are awesome.

They were indeed awesome.

Note the use of the word ‘were’ there. Sadly, Amasis (the dark skinned one, for the record if you didn’t know) had to retire in June 2011 due to what was I believe a car accident, and so the team is no more.

However, the team should have come in for a one off shot on Raw when that video above went viral in March 2011, have them against Santino and Kozlov, who were the champs there, and have them hypnotise them and have them dance and then have the Cobra (… That was around at that point, right?) be immune and have them win.

But as for if Vince would sign them, if they were around… Thing is, Vince is big on getting talent, but not gimmicks. Talent gets you in the door, then HE gives you the gimmick. So while it’s all good to have a funny, kid friendly gimmick on the Indies, Vince isn’t going to let you come in with it. He’ll create a new one for you, and make comedic sock puppet users out of guys who were working as Russian shoot-fighters, or Rugby Players out of Money Makers.

So Vince might well begin to start looking at CHIKARA for talent, especially if they overtake ROH. But he’s not about to take their gimmicks.

Although if he touches even a button on Archibald Peck’s gimmick I will… Uh… Complain loudly on the internet! That’ll show him!

Nightwolf returns.

2. Bruno Sammartino ( Greatest wrestler of the 70’s), Hulk Hogan ( greatest wrestler of the 80’s), Stone Cold Steve Austin( Greatest wrestler of the 90’s), and John Cena (Greatest wrestler today). Who would win in a match between these 4 mega superstars?

Who’s booking, which company, what show, where is it happening, when is it happening, what storyline, which stipulations and what’s the end goal? Every one of those variables changes the result. What Russo would book in Philly at a WM in the late 90’s as a one fall match designed to set Cena up as THE guy will be wildly different to a Memphis 80’s match as a co-main elimination match after Lawler breaks Andy Kaufman’s neck in the other main event.

Shoot would be Bruno, probably. As a general rule… Cena’s the one with the most upswing, unless you know and/or are in the middle of Hulkamania or Austin Fever, so he’d probably win out of the 4 if you were coming in cold.

And if I was booking? Bruno is eliminated when Hogan hulks up out of the bear hug, then eats a Stunner and then an AA for the pin. Then Cena gets hulked up on but he kicks out of the leg drop, Hogan misses the second, Cena locks in the STF, Hogan is passing out, just before he does Austin breaks it up, tosses Cena, pulls Hogan up, stunner, Hogan is pinned. Then Austin beats down Cena, Cena makes the comeback, locks in the STF again… and Brian Pillman is distracting the ref long enough for Debra slides in a steel chair for Austin to waffle Cena with to get the tainted pin and set off the Hollywood Blondes/Cena & Hogan program.

Aaron finishes us off with how to elevate people. Simple enough…

Hello,

Long time listener – first time caller . . . or something like that.

I understand the nature of professional wrestling is designed to have superstars with over the top gimmicks. However, do you think guys like Antonio Cesaro, Brodus Clay, Damien Sandow, Ryback, and Tensai (who are all very gimmick heavy), can elevate themselves past the mid-card?

While looking at wrestling history, I’ve noticed most main-event stars have had more “natural” personalities that have allowed true characteristics to come through. Shawn Michaels, Stone Cold, The Rock, John Cena, Triple H, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Batista, and Eddie Guerrero have all managed to get to the top without having an overpowering gimmick. With the exception of The Undertaker and Kane, I can’t think of recent WWE stars that have managed to get to a main-event level relying on an overriding character motif.

I understand these character molds can fade over time (see: Ziggler, Dolph / Rhodes, Cody / Cena, John / Kingston, Kofi), however do you see guys like Ryback, Sandow, Clay, Tensai, and Cesaro elevating themselves to that level?

Thanks,

It is a good point that while an over the top gimmick is a good hook to get attention and is fine for the midcard, for a main event talent (normally) it is a problem. No-one would believe Deacon Batista main eventing, but Batista (or Leviathan) is fine. However, there is sadly no magic formula, no simple step by step plan. Instead, there are general guidelines and then specific gameplans.

Generally, you need to look at the gimmick and find it’s core, find the heart of the gimmick. Cena’s rapping was the hook, but his attitude to the fans and to giving up were the keys to the main event. You need to find the true defining characteristic that people can relate to, and then focus on that.

It helps if it’s something the talent themselves can relate to, or play convincingly. And coupled with that is actual talent. Frankly, not everyone can or will be main event, some guys are just destined for mid-card at best. That’s not a bad thing as such, as long as you recognize it and deal with it accordingly.

So find the inner truth and focus on that, downplay the gimmick and go from there. For some guys you’ve listed, that’s easy. Others, not so much.

Sandow, for instance, is easy, as I honestly think that, failing a major injury or disaster, he will be a main eventer faster than you can say King Sandow. The crowd interview gimmick will get over (and the day they plant a wrestler who gets it right will be fascinating, if they go the bodyguard/lackey route or the enemy route), and after that, just one solid big win should be enough to elevate him.

Similar with Cesaro, having more quality matches with high class talent where he shows incredible strength and ability should easily take care of him, although a major Raw/SD in Europe would help immensely if he could win a big match there.

The others… Ryback is arguably there now, I suppose, but I’m still out on him. I just… I don’t see it. I’m not saying he’s a Goldberg clone or anything, I just don’t get the attraction or the charisma. I know he’s over (for given towns and values) but I don’t see him sticking around the top of the card too much longer unless, Tara forbid, they put him over for the belt.

Tensai’s a puzzler, as everything they’ve tried has failed here, but a gimmick overhaul while easy (“I’m sick and tired of this Japanese Crap!”) probably wouldn’t help. For him to get over will take a MAJOR miracle, an improvement to his style in some way, or a series of great matches with someone, it’ll be something I can’t predict, as I don’t see how he can get there. Ryback is there now, albeit for a short while, but Tensai, nope.

As for Clay, that’s the hardest one, as he could make it, but it’s very tricky. Well, no, it’s not actually, all you’d have to do is have this Clay-

Come out of him and do that sort of destruction on the Funkadactyls. That’d get him over. But that’s very much non-PG. But as a face, could Clay get over? You need to go to Rikishi, who had a similar gimmick and was on the cusp before they ruined it. And to that end, I think he needs to be paired up with a tag team, or at least a partner. Fandango springs to mind.

Point is, give him 1 or 2 small guys to work with, make them a team, have them chase the titles, have him get the hot tag all the time, and he’ll get over. Then turn the smaller guy, have smaller guy/s steal the Funkadactyls, and the gimmick as Clay has to focus and get his revenge. And once he gets his revenge, he should hopefully be over and now dancing less, and that’s possibly a main event gimmick.

But maybe someone below has a better idea. I sadly am out of them, and must say goodnight now, before I fall onto the keyboard and type a whole bunch of meaningless letters here to act as if I’ve fallen asleep on the keyboard.

Oh dear I’ve gone meta. Ah well. See you next time dear readers!