Brooklyn Brawlin 4.09.08: Re-Writing the Book on Flair's First WrestleMania Experience
Posted by Dan Torkel on 04.09.2008
Could Ric Flair carry Hulk Hogan's ego to a *** match? Find out inside...
Opening Monologue:
Thanks to everyone who commented on my first column last week. And yes, I made a ridiculous error saying that Edge was the only one to kick out of a Tombstone at Wrestlemania as Kane kicked out of 2 at WM 14. Kudos to the correctors on that one.
My star ratings came into question a bit especially the Edge/Taker ****3/4 rating. My reasoning as I stated was because a) the crowd was dead and tired and they managed to wake everyone up, and b) no one gave Edge a hope in hell of retaining and the storytelling of the match made me actually believe he could. So huzzah to them for their effort.
Raw Notes:
That might have been the most ass-backwards way of getting a ppv main event I have ever seen. Regal announces a #1 contender (JBL) but Triple H disagrees. So we get a handicap match (yes another handicap match). The WWE Champ, and #1 contender and who jobs clean...You guessed it, RANDY ORTON, your WWE Champion. Then in the most blatant booking in a long time, I mean it was only half way through the show, John Cena comes out looking for a spot. And we get ANOTHER HANDICAP MATCH! Then Orton stands around watching and costs JBL the pin and thus himself another match where he can lose the belt without being pinned. Why didn't Orton just hit JBL and get Cena DQ'ed? The easy solution would've been for JBL to be announced #1 contender, Cena and Triple H argue, Regal announces a Fatal 4-Way and we have a long tag match main event. That way the Champ and # 1 Contender don't job in the same night.
On the better side, I like the re-emergence of tag teams and the build towards Shawn/Batista so call it thumbs in the middle.
Re-Writing the Book: Flair vs. Hogan at Wrestlemania VIII
So we all said goodbye to Ric Flair this week and it got me thinking about Flair at Wrestlemania. It is sad to me that his lone win came in a 3-2 Handicap Tag Match where he never even got the pin. He has lost to Randy Savage (WM 8), Undertaker (WM 18), MITB (WM 22) and of course HBK (WM 24). So lets travel back to 1992 and set the stage for what should've been the single most anticipated match in WWE history: Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan for the WWF(E) Title.
At the end of 1991 the top line feuds in the WWE were Hogan/Undertaker, Macho Man/Jake the Snake, and Ric Flair/everyone. Flair was carrying around his NWA World Title claiming to be the Real World's Champ. After the controversy surrounding the two Hogan/Taker title matches, the 1992 Royal Rumble would produce an undisputed Champ. In the Rumble match, Flair enters #3 to the screams of Bobby Heenan. He survives down to the Final Four, which includes Hulk Hogan, Sid Justice and Undertaker. In the original 1992 Rumble, Macho Man leaps over the top to chase an eliminated Jake the Snake so we will consider that his elimination because it keeps their feud alive. Sid and Hogan team up and double clothesline Taker out and they turn their attention to Flair. A double big boot puts Flair out through the middle ropes. Hogan and Sid begin to slug it out and get near the ropes when a returning Flair lunges and dumps both men to stand tall as WWE Champion leaving Sid and Hogan to ponder what happened.
The months between the Rumble and Wrestlemania would see a series of Dream Matches pitting the faces; Hogan, Sid and Savage against the heels; Flair, Taker and Jake. Macho Man and Jake usually wind up brawling throughout arenas and or getting DQ'ed or COTR. This leads to Jack Tunney booking a No DQ/CO match at Wrestlemania. Sid and Taker are at a stand off and get booked into a match at Wrestlemania. This leaves Flair, the greatest wrestler of the 1980's and undisputed Champion against Hulk Hogan, the greatest entertainer of the 1990's and former champ screwed out of it by Flair. This was prime time, this was a truly historic main event.
Wrestlemania VIII - Indiana Hoosier Dome - The card outside of the main event remains the same. Bret and Piper still have their classic IC Title match, and yes, don't worry Tatanka and Rick Martel still have their ***** match. In the No DQ match, Savage and Elizabeth gain a measure of revenge as Elizabeth in a rare showing of aggression (pre WCW) delivers a low blow to Jake as he goes for the DDT allowing Macho to hit the Flying Elbow and score the pinfall. Undertaker; whose pops from the fans have been building since his brief title win, has a decent power match with Sid. Sid hits the Powerbomb but stops to get praise from the fans and Taker sits up. Taker goes for the Tombstone but Sid slips out and grabs the urn from Paul Bearer and uses it to deck Taker for the blatant DQ. The crowd is shocked by the heel-like actions of the favorite Sid. Sid waves his arms in disgust and walks off to a chorus of boos. Taker does the zombie sit-up again as Sid leaves. This leaves Flair and Hogan. They rock the house for nearly 20 minutes. Flair is bleeding and working the leg, Hogan is popping the crowd on the comebacks. Flair gets the Figure 4 but Hogan hulks up. As he seems ready to regain the World Title, Sid stalks back down to ringside and trips Hogan up as he goes for the leg drop. Hogan looks stunned as his friend stands there mocking him. The dirtiest player in the game hits a low blow and rolls up Hogan (of course with a handful of tights) for the pin. Flair becomes the first heel to win at Wrestlemania. Sid and Flair begin a beat down but Undertaker runs out to even things up. Papa Shango (late as usual) runs out to counter Taker and its 3 on 2 for the heels. Suddenly the music hits the Ultimate Warrior makes his grand return to chase off the heels as the show ends with Warrior, Hogan and Taker standing strong.
With Warrior returning, having a heel win would be overlooked and it could set the stage for the summer. The only one screwed from this booking was Savage, but you add him to the face side and have a another heel (Perfect or Razor Ramon) equal things out. I just never made sense to me why the WWE and Vince did not exploit Flair/Hogan for its true money potential. Sadly if given the opportunity they would probably do it now.
Next week we continue to re-write the book as we look at what could've been the original "AGE OF ORTON" way back in 2004 when Orton won the title from that guy who used to be my favorite wrestler before he killed his wife and son. Thanks again for reading and make sure to hit up EVERY other column here!
Till we meet again and the case is solv-ed.
Dan Torkel
Hey, great little column here. The only thing that I'm not so big on is the low blows that you were using. Don't get me wrong, but, it was 1992, there was no way that Liz would low blow Jake in order for Savage to win. That makes it seem like 1998, Liz, at the time was innocent, if you had her slap Jake it might work.
The low blow from Flair is plausible but I think just the simple roll up with a handful of tights works best.
Posted By: Kirk (Guest) on April 09, 2008 at 05:09 PM
It's intriguing concept with Flair winning over Hogan but there's no way that Flair could pin early 90s Hogan without using three Sid powerbombs (one on a steel chair), the ring bell, brass knux and maybe a shotgun...and you know it wouldnt be enough to keep the bald bastard down as he'd kick out just a hair after the three.
Posted By: Jay (Guest) on April 09, 2008 at 05:22 PM
The strangest thing is in the early build toward WM8 I distinctly remember a graphic during Superstars where they actually promoted Flair vs Hogan but then it got changed. You know it was Hogan's ego that killed it. Add to that his jobbing to Yokozuna the following year and my head hurts. It's also surreal that Flair would have gone over had it happened, but in reality when they faced off in WCW Hogan won.
Posted By: Jason (Guest) on April 09, 2008 at 06:13 PM
Why can't you just say he won the title from Chris Benoit. We all know what happened. It was horrific. We don't need to be reminded daily.
Posted By: Jeremy (Guest) on April 09, 2008 at 07:20 PM
good ideas for the fued, but you know lary would hate all them run ins on a PPV tikle main event especially flair vs hogan! no $$$
Posted By: Ian (Guest) on April 09, 2008 at 07:55 PM
Well a Hogan/Flair match would have been awesome back when they were both in their primes. If I remember correctly Orton only held the belt for only 1 month when he won it from Benoit. It was a pretty decent match at, I think it was SS.
Posted By: Richie (Guest) on April 09, 2008 at 09:19 PM
Nice concept, and nice execution also. Those changes to the WM VIII card would have made the show more important and featured more logical booking than the head-spinning events between the '92 Rumble and 'Mania itself, but I sure would hate to lose that Flair/Savage match. Macho's feud with Roberts never really was resolved in a satisfying way though, and Savage's feud with Flair in WCW in '95 seemed stale due to their prior history in WWF. I'll go out on a limb and say that your Hogan/Flair card could have made the event a bigger, better and more memorable WrestleMania, even if Hogan got the win over Flair, which he would have, or at least it would've been the same kind of DQ finish that closed the actual WM VIII show. Two things I wouldn't want to live without seeing, however, were Flair's and Savage's promos following their WM VIII title match. They were two of my all-time favorites.
Posted By: KanyonKreist (Guest) on April 09, 2008 at 11:01 PM
WrestleMania VIII could have had Flair go over Hogan, Savage over Roberts, Sid/Taker to a no finish DQ. Then the IC title, I would have had Bret face the Mountie and win in a squash. Tag titles, I would have turned Nasty Boys face and have them win over Money Inc. I also would have had Marty Jannety face Shawn Michaels instead of HBK vs. Tito Santana. This Mania could have been more than it was and WM VIII was one of the best with all of the matches that happened.
Posted By: Dan (Guest) on April 09, 2008 at 11:19 PM
I don't know about this column. I mean, you just used a lot of words to say "wouldn't it have been awesome if Flair had beat Hogan at 'mania?"
And besides which, you're booking '92 like its 98. There's no way in hell the heel is winning the main event at 'mania, especially against Hogan. The only possible way that would work out is if the Warrior run-in afterwards led to Flair playing Yokozuna to Warrior's Hogan (ala WMIX), and that's even worse that Flair just losing to Hogan.
Anyway, I hope you come up with something more interesting for the Orton article than "what if HHH hadn't squashed him."
Posted By: Hawkeye (Guest) on April 10, 2008 at 08:29 AM
Its CHRIS BENOIT!!!
Im sick of this crap, his name is Chris Benoit!! Lets all move on please.
Posted By: steven719 (Registered) on April 10, 2008 at 09:18 AM
I agree about the low blows.
How about Liz comes in from behind and claws at Jake's eyes. He's temporarily blinded then turns to get her only to get a high knee to the back. Savage then puts him away with the elbow.
I also don't agree with Flair winning.
Posted By: Jason (Guest) on June 11, 2008 at 01:28 PM