Thoughts From The Top Rope 04.23.08: The Brand Extension
Posted by Daniel Wilcox on 04.23.2008
Should it stay or should it go? It depends. Will it go? Not any time soon, but would the demise of the brand extension benefit the average fan?
The plan was to take a good six-month break. I needed the time to sort out some personal stuff, and then knuckle down and get myself some good exam grades in the summer. I didn't intend to return until September when I would be settled into a new chapter of my life, a new part of my education and overall be in a much better, securer place.
Turns out, education is overrated and there are some things that I can't give up without wild cravings to come back a few months later; this column is apparently one of those things.
I can't believe it's only been two months since I told Larry Csonka I needed an indefinite break. Not just because a bunch of stuff has gone down personally, but the wrestling world seems to have changed a whole lot since the last time I got behind the keyboard and busted out one of these bad boys for you, the readers. Arguably the greatest wrestler that ever lived has retired and in the process, put me and millions of fans through an emotional rollercoaster of a weekend – think how emotional that must've been for Ric. On top of that, Samoa Joe is finally TNA World Champion, Jeff Hardy's career and home have gone up in smoke, TNA somewhere started not sucking so much, and WWE produced one of the best WrestleMania extravaganzas in a long time.
And yet, no matter how much things change, they always stay the same. John Cena and Triple H are contenders for the WWE Championship, Batista is still dressing like a fag and TNA still makes no sense (I think it's suffering from the "so bad, it's good" complex).
There is a plethora of things I'm enjoying in both WWE and TNA at the moment, but most of those things seem to be lurking in the mid-card. Chris Jericho is still a highlight of every show he is on. MVP, John Morrison, Miz and Matt Hardy are still bringing the goods in the ring. Santino manages to nail a couple of good lines each and every week. And hey, no Vince McMahon! So why does shit seem so damn stale?
I give WWE credit for mixing things up. Michaels/Batista has been a very refreshing feud. We've got a couple of fresh main-eventers too and by all accounts there are a few face/heel turns on the horizon. But how long will it take me and the majority of the wrestling audience to get bored of Triple H's heel shtick? My money's on "not long." And even though the likes of The Game, Cena, Edge, Taker, Joe and Angle are all very capable of putting on fantastic matches, there's something about the majority of the biggest names in the business that I'm just not feeling. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Edge and Taker have been feuding for the best part of a year. And some combination of Orton, Cena and Triple H have been feuding since last summer and Joe and Angle have been feuding since 2006.
Meanwhile, I'm marking out on Monday night Raw because I get the chance to see MVP vs. Chris Jericho and CM Punk vs. William Regal. That doesn't quite seem right, does it? Surely I should be more pumped about the Elimination Four-Way this Sunday than the US Championship match that has got pretty much no advertising leading up to the show and yet, I really don't find myself bothered about the big titles matches at Backlash because there's no doubt in my mind that both world champs will be retaining their gold.
I'm as big a John Cena as you will see on this website. My views on him are pretty well documented and provoked something of a verbal war on the comments section just before my break. And yet I find myself not caring when "The Time Is Now" blares through over the PA, though through no fault of Cena's own. The same can be said for Triple H, although he comes out to "The Game", not "The Time Is Now." And when Taker's music hits? Piss break, ‘cause I know he'll only just be emerging from the smokescreen by the time I get back down the stairs. Don't get me wrong, none of these guys are stale. It's creative that's stale.
Everything that comes from WWE's main event scene is so damn cookie-cutter and it is making me not care about the guys at the top of the card. Creative needs a shot in the ass. It seems to me that creative are so piss-poor that nothing they do is going to change the quality of the product because they don't know how to think outside the box, a box which apparently only contains typical "I deserve my title shot" promos and weak number one contender tournaments. Storylines behind title programs? Don't be silly. Hell, how often was it mentioned since Cena's return that Orton kicked the guy's dad in the head. Not many. The frustrating part is that this all so easy. The shit basically writes itself and yet these creative guys can't come up with anything original.
From where I'm sitting, there's only one thing that would vastly improve the quality of the TV product. And though it'll not happen any time soon, it sure is fun to think about.
Thoughts From The Top Rope: End The Brand Extension
If there's one thing that would really help to improve the quality of WWE television, it is the demise of the brand extension. While the brand extension, first introduced in 2002, has helped to give opportunities to many young stars and been key in the rise of the likes of Edge, John Cena, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio and Batista, it has come to a point where separating WWE's talent into multiple brands has become more of a hindrance than a help.
To appreciate what I am trying to get across here, you need to understand that I am not suggesting that ending the brand extension would be a wise business decision for WWE. It might well be, but I'd like to think WWE knows that better than I do and if they don't think the extension should be ended, then it shouldn't be. But as a wrestling fan, the only thing I am concerned with is how entertained I am by watching Raw, SmackDown and ECW week in week out. Surely, what's "good for business" is the best product possible?
Trim The Fat
By dropping the brand extension, WWE would have to cut a whole bunch of wrestlers. Just browsing the Superstar pages, there are a bunch of people who would improve the product by not being a part of it.
Balls Mahoney
Big Daddy V
Boogeyman
Mike Knox
Stevie Richards
Tommy Dreamer (give him a backstage job)
Chuck Palumbo
Dave Taylor
Deuce
Domino
Mark Henry
Charlie Haas
Hardcore Holly
Jim Duggan
Rory McAllister
Robbie McAllister
Snitsky
None of those guys add anything to the product. They're all either not over (despite numerous attempts), too old or too injury prone to deserve a place on the roster with or without a brand extension.
Strength In Depth
I don't think Raw or SmackDown has much depth throughout the card. Well Raw has a stacked main event scene, their mid card is shocking whereas SmackDown has potential for a decent mid card but have only had three or four guys in the main event scene since Batista dethroned King Booker at Survivor Series 2006.
Now without the brand extension, you'd have Finlay, Jericho, Punk, Benjamin, MVP, Matt Hardy, and Mr. Kennedy as all potential IC/US title holders while three or four of those guys can easily make the shift up to the main event. Speaking of which, you're top title contenders would be Triple H, John Cena, Randy Orton, Undertaker, Edge, Big Show, Batista, Shawn Michaels and Jeff Hardy. And again, a couple of those guys could drop down and feud with some mid-card guys. They may sound like the usual subjects, but there's some really possibilities for great feuds there.
Furthermore, look at what you've got left to make a tag team division. Morrison and Miz are the best team going right now. London and Kendrick feuding with those guys would be tremendous. Then you have Moore and Yang, Jesse and Festus and Cryme Tyme as solid face teams, with Cade and Murdoch, and Santino and Carlito filling out the heels. And with three shows to put them on, tag teams could actually get some TV time. People can talk about this tag team renaissance all they want, but it's not happening when the teams are still only having 3/4 minute matches.
And then you have the women's division filled with actual women's wrestlers like Mickie, Beth, Natalya, Melina, Jillian and Victoria. The likes of Maria and Ashley are always going to have a spot on the show because sex sells, but it doesn't have to be as active wrestlers. Remember the lost art of the valet, anyone?
And then you have a lower card consisting of guys like Jamie Noble, Colin Delaney, Elijah Burke, Kofi Kingston, Cody Rhodes and more. They're all very talented and could all do well in other positions on the card.
No More Injury Crisis
This is pretty much an expansion of the last point and pretty self-explanatory. There have been plenty of times in the past couple of years where handfuls of big names have gone down through injury or suspension or whatever other reasons and those absences have left gaping holes in the roster. We've had whole pay-per-view cards altered due to injuries and world titles be forfeited because of injuries. Hell, Great Khali is going down in history as a former World Heavyweight Champion alongside names like Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Triple H and Chris Benoit, uh, Randy Orton.
If any of the top level guys go out, it's not a problem simply due to the sheer mass of big names there at the top of the card and the numerous more already on the brink of main event status. And if guys needed time to heel up or take a break from the ring, then it wouldn't be an issue.
An Element of Surprise
One of the things that the IWC likes to complain about the most is the lack of any sort of surprise element in today's wrestling. Of course, that is largely due to the fact that they're reading spoilers and are aware of all the inside info, but it's still a blame that they place upon the product instead of themselves. Go figure. But with three shows and such a big roster, you wouldn't have to showcase all the talent on all of the shows and so you never know when a particular talent will show up on what show. This can help to advance angles and give performers a break from being on the road for an extra day or two.
Feel the Freshness
Another self-explanatory one here. With no brand extension, everything feels fresh. There are more performers for guys to work with so we don't get the same matches happening week in and week out like we have seen in the past. And just think of some of the potentially huge feuds possible with a lack of brand extension;
Triple H vs. Taker
Cena vs. Batista
Taker vs. Cena
Edge vs. Triple H
HBK vs. Taker
MVP vs. Cena
Hardy vs. Edge
And that's just in the main event. The possibilities are pretty much endless.
Better Ratings Across The Board
If any selection of John Cena, Undertaker, Randy Orton, Triple H or Shawn Michaels are likely to appear on an episode of ECW, then ECW is going to be scoring 2.0s and upwards. SmackDown is going to be competing with Raw and Raw is going to be hitting those 4.0s again. Unpredictability creates interest.
Less Is More
Here, I am referring to title belts. One world title, one mid-card title, one set of tag belts and a women's title are all that is needed. If everyone in the main event is competing over one belt instead of two, that one belt means a hell of a lot more. Don't believe me, ask Jim Ross.
I wonder if ending the brand extension would in fact cost Vince & co. financially. As I said, a better product surely results in more income. But then of course, there are some things I haven't taken into consideration like the fact that they'd be running less house shows and such. So maybe it would and maybe it wouldn't hurt WWE financially, but then again, maybe Vince just thinks it is too big a risk.
And I'm done for today. Having only confirmed my return late Monday night, I didn't have much time to put this together for today, but expect a fuller column next week.
Wrestling is not the only place where I'm back in business. The Greatest Rock News Report is up now over at 411Music, as is my review of (*hangs head in shame*) Bittersweet World by Ashlee Simpson.
I should also be back in the Sports Zone this weekend for any soccer fans out there.
Be sure to check out all the other columns around 411Wrestling today including the Piledriver Report, the Happy-Go-Sucky News and Ask411.
That's me done for today. Be sure to leave a comment so I know that coming back early was worth it. Until next week…
fantastic column,but don't u think if they mixed both the brands,raw and smackdown,1 major champsionship will still become secondary
Posted By: salman (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 09:08 AM
I share the same sentiments you do regarding Cena. I marked out when he came out during the Royal Rumble, but lately, I've found myself not caring at all...
Posted By: ... (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 09:30 AM
Release Stevie Richards? BLASPHEMY!
Posted By: Evil Doink (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 09:57 AM
3 brands is simply spreading the roster way too thin. ECW should go by the end of 2008.
Wrestlers show up on any show they like now anyway (which brand is Big Show actually affiliated with again?)
They dumped single brand PPV's already and Daniel is right about there being a lot of fat they could trim and save money. A lot of those guys mentioned are lucky to even get on house shows. There would be more unpredictability not knowing which show top talent would show up on in any given week. (and top stars should not be overexposed by being on 2/3 shows every week) The number of house shows could still remain the same - the roster is huge and you would only be getting rid of the unover talent taking up space.
But it won't happen anytime soon. It is too big a risk for WWE to take.
Posted By: Cody (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 10:09 AM
I agree with you on the brand extension removal to a point. I liked the idea that originally was with the brand extension, one title defended on both shows. So merge the WWE, WCW [since it just is that title], and ECW titles into one heavyweight belt and defend it on all the shows.
Allow the IC and USA titles to be for each brand, add the European title for ECW but rename it the television title.
Allow the tag belts and womens championship to be defend on all three shows as well.
Hell, if the WWE were smart in booking matches, then Night of Champions would be the perfect chance for multiple titles to get merged into one.
Posted By: MLL (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Good column, but some of these guys you would cut could still serve a purpose.
Big Daddy V-tag team with Mark Henry
Chuck Palumbo-dude could be a good mid card act
Deuce-tag team
Domino-tag team
Mark Henry-team him with Big Daddy V
Charlie Haas-If Shelton doesn't get over, reform World's Greatest Tag Team
Rory McAllister-tag team
Robbie McAllister-tag team
Posted By: Chevy (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Good column, I like the idea of ending the brand extension and your roster division. Although I will say that I think Jeff Hardy's days of being a title contender are probably over.
Welcome back!
Posted By: Keith (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 11:06 AM
I had a comment, but ran out of room, so I sent you an email Daniel.
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 11:10 AM
for all the problems that come from the brand extension. just imagine life without it.
alot of people dont like cena no. no BE means 3 shows/5 hours of cena DOMINATING. mvp,chavo, matt hardy, cm punk, finlay, and miz/morrison would be relegated to heat webisodes.
kane maybe ecw champ, but at least he is champ. under a combined roster, he would be back to treading water.
Posted By: reh629 (Registered) on April 23, 2008 at 11:22 AM
"Batista is still dressing like a fag"
Homophobia = EPIC FAIL!
Also who cares if the fat is trimmed. They are worthless
Posted By: that guy (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM
I agree about the top of the card being stale. I haven't cared about the top guys at all since Royal Rumble when Jeff Hardy lost to Orton. Wrestlemania turned out to be a good show, but not because of any storylines, other than Flair's retirement. Raw's main event sucked. Smackdown's would have if they hadn't put on a good match. The writers have focused so hard on the main event storylines for so long, but now it feels like they just gave up. The only thing worth watching since Wrestlemania has been HBK/Batista and Jericho.
Posted By: Guest#9524 (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Here is how I think the end of the brand extension should go down
Raw and Smackdown should be ONE brand, World Title, IC Title, US Title (European championship belt has some awesome fueds), tag titles and womans title. ECW could still be its own brand since there would be a lot of talent that could go down to ECW that isnt doing much on either Raw or Smackdown
Posted By: natedoggcata (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Vince won't end this brand extendtion
Posted By: Matthew (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Chevy -
No disrespect but all of your suggests have been done before and they are boring!
Posted By: T-Mac (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Out of all 7 of those huge "fresh" feuds, 5 have already been done. 1 of them twice.
Posted By: Guest#6954 (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 12:16 PM
maybe I'm crazy but wouldn't they only have upper midcard/main eventers on tv if they ended the brand expansion? It's stupid to wnat to end it if the midcarders are your favorite part of Raw/ECW/Smackdown. Also, it would mean more injuries since the same people would be having MORE matches each week most likly. Of course, if they had the same people on tv as they do now it would work. But, they wouldn't do that and the midcard would no longer exist outside of Heat.
Posted By: markhenrysquash389 (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Hey, who you saying dressess like a fag? Don't make me Batista Bomb your ass buddy!! Watch your mouth!! The extension would work if the wrestlers stayed on their given brands. Raw could get rid of at least 10 lower-card guys and put them on ECW. Then the talent sharing could end and when someone shows up from another brand,it would mean something.
Posted By: Batista (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM
You are a really whiny guy. They get rid of the brand extension we'll be stuck dealing with the same main event fued 3 times a week and everybody will be pushed down on all shows. The Brand extension allows differnt talent to show off, instead of Monday and Friday Cena vs Triple H!
Also getting rid of all those guys would give them TNA's problem of having a roster so talented that it's hard for anyone to gain momentum without ruining someone elses, Jobbers have a place in Wrestling, you get rid of the Jobbers, you'll get stuck turning midcarders into them.
Also quit the Chris Benoit being contreversal jokes for the sake of them. Let the man rest. Don't bring him up just to say you shouldn't bring him up.
Posted By: Davy (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 02:55 PM
There's no way they're getting rid of the brand extension because of the money they make on the house shows.
WWE has no reason to change anything regarding their booking is still pulling in the buyrates and they are still moving merchandise in record numbers.
The only thing they will need to do is eventually merge the ECW roster with both RAW and Smackdown. This way you can have the greener wrestlers get more seasoning before they get called up.
Posted By: Chikara (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 03:19 PM
one combined roster means:
"tonight's main event on raw will be cena/hhh vs orton/jbl.
tuesday on ecw, will feture cena vs HHH with orton as the guest referee.
friday on smackdown, enemies collide as HHH teams with ex evolution memeber and wwe champ randy orton vs john cena and jbl."
Posted By: jd (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 03:36 PM
Personally, I feel WWE should do the opposite, in actually trying to fix the brand extension, truly defining the lines.
The main event scene in the WWE, on all shows, is pretty stale, so why not just mix them up again, and then really keep them apart, instead of having talent just show up unannounced.
Before I even go into the roster changes I'd make, if I could, to freshen things up, the first thing that should be done is going back to the brand-exclusive PPVs.
One plausible reason of why the main events in the WWE seem so stale is because you see the same guys on PPV every month, burning through the feuds that much more quickly.
By going back to the brand exclusive shows, not only do you help the feuds/characters stay fresh, by not seeing them every month, you also make things that much more special for when all the stars show up for the big WWE shows.
Another way to freshen things up would be to shuffle the main event/upper midcard talent on all three shows. ECW would obviously get bottom priority, things should change.
In my opinion:
Raw's main event/upper midcard:
-Cena, Edge, HHH, Batista, JBL, HBK, MVP, Ken Kennedy, John Morrison, Matt Hardy
Smackdown's main event/upper midcard:
-The Undertaker, Randy Orton, Big Show, Chris Jericho, Umaga, Jeff Hardy, CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, Shelton Benjamin, Santino Marela, Cody Rhodes
ECW's main event/upper midcard:
Kane, TGK, Chavo, Elijah Burke, Tommy Dreamer, The Miz, Hardcore Holly
With those changes, I feel you fix that staleness.
On Raw, you bring back over a guy in Batista, who hadn't really been feaured on Raw in almost 3 years, as well as a talented heel in Edge, who could get "fresh opposition". To add to that, you also bring in a nice group of guys to rebuild the IC title around.
On Smackdown, you have Undertaker and Orton as the core of the show, and a host of solid challengers to the World belt. You also get a platform to finally start making a star out of Rhodes.
For ECW, you still have enough talent, in guys like Kane, TGK, Chavo, Dreamer and Holly, to make a fairly entertaining show without taking much from the two main rosters. Also, you can finally really push Burke and Miz, for their eventual moves away from ECW.
Finally, make the tag titles exclusive to one show, preferably Smackdown.
That way, you have a place to truly feature the talented teams that the WWE has, like WGTT, London/Kendrick, Cryme Tyme, Cade/Murdoch and Jesse/Festus.
Also without having to fawn importance for the tag belts on Raw, more time can go to getting over the angles/storylines in the main event.
Women's championship should stay on Raw, keeping the working ladies, like Mickie, Beth, Jillian, Melina, Candace, Nattie and McCool, on Raw, while moving the valets to SD/ECW.
That's just my opinion
Posted By: scipio2009 (Registered) on April 23, 2008 at 03:47 PM
you forgot JBL man! He's a wrestling GOD!!! What about Gregory Helms!!! The longest reigning Cruiserweight champion in history!!! Speaking of which shouldn't that belt be added!? I certainly think so!
Posted By: Justin (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 04:12 PM
Chikara, what are you talking about? In 2000, there was no brand extension, yet they were doing TWICE the numbers they're doing now.
Posted By: JJ (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 04:33 PM
If you consolidated the Raw and Smackdown rosters, as well as the creative teams, and solidified an exclusive ECW roster with some of the leftovers (Finlay, Stevie Richards, maybe even Rey Mysterio), it would be great for all three shows, no doubt, but as long two WWE tours are making more money than one, McMahon will hold the current status quo, regardless of how many wres- sorry, *sports entertainers* drop like flies from injuries or exhaustion. So, how was THAT for a run-on sentence, fellas?
Posted By: KanyonKreist (Registered) on April 23, 2008 at 04:55 PM
Just rename Smackdown as WCW, and get it over with.
Posted By: Capt. Smooth (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 05:16 PM
If I could be serious for a minute......
The Brand Extension needs to end. If they were serving us wrestling-mainstream on Raw and wrestling-for long-term die hard fans on Smackdown, then yes, the brand split should remain!
However what we are getting is the same style of entertainment on BOTH shows??? It's like Coke saying right we sell Coke as one brand but we can extend are brand because we are getting big enough where we can make more money by having two brands (fair point). However, this second brand will be exactly the same as the other brand...wtf?
Posted By: Luke (Guest) on April 23, 2008 at 06:32 PM
Agreed - Keep the brands separate and it'll work. U need 3 brands to push the undercard. Importantly, the 3 brands should be distinct from each other, ie. Raw = WWE style, Smackdown = WCW Cruiserweight& Tag team style, ECW = TNA Impact / Hardcore style. Only then does the brand extension mean something, otherwise, may as well call each show Monday Nite Raw, Tuesday nite Raw and Friday nite Raw because the only difference is the set.
Posted By: Derek (Guest) on April 24, 2008 at 06:31 AM
Did NOT like this column, I'm guessing youre a very young wrestling fan, or maybe someone my age who just hasnt bothered to look at the WWE in years gone by.
Posted By: KP (Guest) on April 25, 2008 at 12:01 AM