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The Importance of...5.18.08: The I Quit Match
Posted by Mike Chin on 05.18.2008



Chincredible Thoughts
Quick notes on the past week in wrestling

-It's easy to hate on TNA, and trust me when I say that I am not among the company's staunchest supporters. Nonetheless, the last two PPVs have given me a lot of reason for optimism, as the promotion seems to be embracing an old school style of booking that is really different. Sure, there's the absurdity of random draw tag teams and title shot v.s hair ladder/battle royal matches. But at heart, the right things are happening. For two consecutive PPVs there have been solid world title matches, with very little BS, in which the right guy went over. You can certainly contend that the egotistical eight proved pointless in the Deuces Wild tournament, but at the same time, you're hard pressed to argue against the point that the right guys went over at just about every turn. I was worried. Super Eric would end up one half of the tag champions. I was worried Nash would create a clusterf*ck in the main event. Maybe this was swerving the fans by not swerving the fans, but if so, what the hell, I'll take it. These were the right decisions.

-One of my biggest problems with the Randy Orton-Triple H match at Judgement Day is that the steel cage gimmick feels so 'thrown-in.' There's no real storyline involving someone trying to interfere in their matches, who they have to keep out, and no story about one guy running away from the other, and having to be held in. They've hardly even mentioned the cage in the build-up, aside from having it descend on the ring randomly (and quite briefly) on Monday night. All in all, it seems like a gimmick for the sake of the gimmick, which isn't great. It's especially lame given that these guys, specifically in their current feud, haven't had many one on one encounters. Think about it--there was the match on Raw that Regal cut off. Aside from that, they haven't gone one on one since last October, and even that wasn't very decisive, as Trips went over in an impromptu match, then Orton won an impromptu Last Man Standing match. Prior to that, they haven't squared off one-on-one since the 2005 Royal Rumble show. There's still value in a conventional match between the two, and that could have given the room to build, more organically, to a gimmick match. Alas, it's not to be.

-Speaking of the steel cage, I was writing about the importance of it a few weeks ago. But to be honest, this style of match just doesn't seem important enough to be headlining a WWE pay per view in this day and age. In recent years, cages have succeeded for regular TV main events, and hot mid-card feuds. But now-a-days, when it comes to a big time PPV main event, I think the Hell in a Cell, Elimination Chamber and Punjabi Prison have all but rendered the conventional cage obsolete.

And now, on to our regular column...

"Five letters. Two words."

It's every bit as simple as Gordon Solie described years ago. It's still every bit as profound.

There are few specialty matches as important to the wrestling industry as the "I Quit" match. The rules are among the simplest of any match in the business. No holds barred. Falls count anywhere. No time limit. There must be a winner, and that we can only arrive at that winner when one of the competitors says "I quit."

For my money, there is no more exciting and decisive way to resolve a feud than with an I Quit match. Sure, the Last Man Standing Match has its dramatic flair, and lends itself well to brawlers. And yes, the steel cage match lends a match fantastic visual drama. A traditional, one fall to a finish bout tests what wrestling is all about—winning according to the standard rules of the game. Each of these matches has its place, and each is certainly valuable in blowing off a feud. Nonetheless, the I Quit match remains at least equally important in the grand scheme of things.

You can't win an I Quit match by just knocking out your opponent. On the contrary, the I Quit match is about beating your opponent, and humiliating him. Making an opponent tap out demonstrates dominance in its own right. But forcing a man to actually speak the words—to orally concede that he is the loser of the match—that is the ultimate victory.

There have been some epic I Quit matches in the history of wrestling. A classic example of the I Quit match appeared in the Wrestlemania XI showdown between Bret Hart and Bob Backlund. It made sense. The two men had a long and heated feud behind them. What's more, each was a superb technical wrestler, with a trademark submission move highlighting each man's offensive repertoire. The match was a classic blow-off, featuring Hart using Backlund's own crossface chickenwing to secure the submission.

Royal Rumble '99 saw one of the great modern I Quit matches in a Rock-Mankind showdown. Again, it was blood feud in which the score could only be settled by one man giving it up. Of course, this was the Attitude era—a time of innovation, and a time of swerves. Mankind didn't really submit, but the crowd was led to believe that he did, leading to much confusion and controversy, and feud that wasn't quite over after all.

Perhaps the most important I Quit match of the last two decades came when Bret Hart returned to this match at Wrestlemania XIII, for this iconic battle with Steve Austin. Like the Rock-Mankind match, while this seemed to be climax of a hot feud. In reality, it was really just getting the ball rolling, with a different kind of swerve. Stone Cold never quit, but when he passed out from the pain of Hart's sharpshooter, there was no way he could continue, and so the match came to a close. The feud raged on, essentially up through Hart's departure from the company.

In recent memory, John Cena built some credibility early in his main event days when he pulled off an I Quit victory against JBL. This contest was anything but conventional—the very anti-thesis of the Hart-Backlund contest in that neither of these men were much for grappling, and neither had a trademark submission hold (this was, of course, prior to the STFU days). This one saw Cena defy tradition, not using a hold to make The Wrestling God give, instead just beating the guy, and then threatening to beat him some more, until he gave it up in classic chickensh*t heel fashion.

I would be remiss, of course, not to acknowledge the importance of perhaps the highest profile I Quit match of all time—the contest about which Gordon Solie was speaking in the quote to open this column. It was at a Clash of the Champions in 1989 that Ric Flair achieved ultimate victory over his arch-nemesis of the day, Terry Funk, in a dramatic contest that established the I Quit match as the way to blow off a meaningful program.

Admittedly, the I Quit match does have its limitations. It doesn't work for every performer. Can you imagine Hulk Hogan working I Quit matches in the ‘80s? Same goes for Cena today. Despite the STFU getting somewhat over—his style and personality lend themselves far better to a knock down brawl than a more a technically grounded bout.

The I Quit match seems to have slipped from the mainstream wrestling scene. The match seems a natural fit Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe in TNA. You could alternate in Sting, or maybe Christian Cage or AJ Styles for that matter. In the WWE, an I Quit match could be a good proving ground for Shawn Michaels' variation on the figure four. Chris Jericho and CM Punk also stand out as capable submission wrestlers. This sort of match could have a lot of potential to blow off a feud with a guy like MVP. Such a match could function in a number of different ways—giving the heel the ultimate bragging rights, or giving the baddy his comeuppance in humiliating fashion.

Whoever the competitors may be, there's plenty of room for the I Quit contests to make a high profile return. It's not time to throw in the towel on this specialty match.

That's all for this column. Next week, we move to a topic that's much larger in scale, as we take a look at the importance of kayfabe. See you in seven.


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Not a bad column, I guess. But it makes me feel bad for you that you can mention I Quit matches and not mention the greatest I Quit Match, and one of the greatest Cage Matches of all-time...

Steel Cage I Quit Match
Tully Blanchard .vs. Magnum T.A.

If you haven't seen it, do yourself a HUGE favor and track it down, watch it, enjoy immensely, and then write an updated version of this column. ;-) I'm pretty sure it was part of Starrcade '85.


Posted By: Josh (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 10:18 AM

 
 
Common misconception, but Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart at WM13 was not an I Quit match.

Posted By: Guest#3009 (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 10:26 AM

 
 
You forgot one of the classic examples of the "I Quit" match. The Tully Blanchard / Magnum T.A. bout at Starrcade 85. Bloody and violent, with a great face and heel, doing battle. It's one of those matches that I watch and makes me realize why I still like pro wrestling. The ending was awesome. Jabbing him in the face with a peice of broken chair. Listening to them scream in the mic when asked if they quit. Your right, the I Quit match, when done right, is still one of the most exciting matches in wrestling.

Posted By: ghost of Marlon Brando (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 10:58 AM

 
 
Good column. Disappointed you left out the Tully Blanchard/Magnum TA match, though.

Posted By: Ryan (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 11:37 AM

 
 
You totally missed 2 of the greatest I Quit matches ever. Flair vs Funk and Magnum TA vs Tully Blanchard. If youre gunna show how important I Quit matches are, how grueling they are and the importance of them in a feud, these are much more necessary than what you mentioned. Sure the ones you mentioned helped to mold careers, but they werent on the same level. Much more drama and story telling on the WCW side of things.

Posted By: JohnnyPark360 (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 12:34 PM

 
 
Not a bad article...but to not mention Magnum T.A. vs Tully Blanchard is a crime, I say.

Posted By: Tommy (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 12:47 PM

 
 
I can't believe you posted classic I Quit matches and no mention of WM 13 Hart vs. Austin.

Posted By: Vic (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 01:02 PM

 
 
Where's Tully Blanchard vs Magnum TA in a steel cage I Quit match. That's the one that I remember the most!

Posted By: Ceelo Brown (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 01:21 PM

 
 
hey guys did he forget about Tully Blanchard vs. Magnum T.A.?

Posted By: markhenrysquash9229 (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 01:48 PM

 
 
I Quit matches are supposed to be brawls. That's why 'Submission match' and 'I Quit match' are different concepts. One is a one-on-one match that can only end on a tap-out, the other requires the verbal 'I Quit' before it's over (and, for the record, Hart/Austin was a Submission match, not an I Quit match.)

Posted By: mr_wishart (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 02:34 PM

 
 
Oh, and I can't believe you forgot the classic Vince vs. Steph 'I Quit' match!!!

Posted By: mr_wishart (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 02:45 PM

 
 
Bret Hart and Steve Austin from WM 13 was a Submission match which is basicly an I quit match.

Posted By: FDF (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 02:59 PM

 
 
Unlike usual, I'm not trying to be a dick here, because I liked the column. But I have to join the chorus and give you shit for leaving off Tully/Magnum. That was my favorite I Quit match other than Bret/Austin (which is technically a submission match, but I don't see how it's any different). It also came years before Flair/Funk, so it deserves more of the credit for making this kind of match popular. For shame, Mr. Chin.

Posted By: The REAL MP (Registered)  on May 18, 2008 at 03:04 PM

 
 
JohnnyPark, he did mention Flair/Funk.

And Vic, he also mentioned Austin/Hart, although that was not an I Quit match, it was a submission Match.


Posted By: Bobby (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 03:15 PM

 
 
"Falls count anywhere."

LOL


Posted By: Bobby (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 03:16 PM

 
 
Vic and JohnnyPark,

Did you not read the article? He mentioned both the Funker/Flair match as well as the Austin/Heart WM13 match (which, as stated previously, was a SUBMISSIONS match with Ken Shamrock as the SGR). Gotta read through the whole way, boys, that skim read doesn't work out too well in most cases.

Wonderful article, Agreed in saying the "I Quit" match is one of the best specialty gimmicks out there.

And yea...Magnum/Blanchard was a bloodbath and should of been included.


Posted By: Guest#2557 (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 03:20 PM

 
 
I could of swore he forgot Magnum/Blanchard I quit match. I dunno guys, can you help me out?!?!?!

Anyways, I won't completely rip into your article, but it was lame. Not "Top 10" Lame, but lame enough. We'll see how you bounce back in 7.

But right now, You are the Mike Adamle of 411.


Posted By: The Fuj (Registered)  on May 18, 2008 at 03:57 PM

 
 
the reson theres a cage match for the title is so orton can get hurt be out until after draft and he goes to smackdown

Posted By: Guest#0082 (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 04:00 PM

 
 
If memory serves, there was once an I Quit match between Tully Blanchard and Magnum TA. I believe it was in a cage. I remember it being pretty entertaining.

Posted By: David (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 04:08 PM

 
 
Dude, WTF? Did you forget Tully and TA?

Posted By: CenaHater5646 (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 04:10 PM

 
 
How could you do an I QUIT article and not touch TA and Tully? I became a man watching that match.

Posted By: HardySucks (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 04:11 PM

 
 
If you've never seen it, there was an I quit, cage match back in NWA between Magnum Terry Allen and Tully Blanchard. That was sweet. You should look that up and see it sometime.

Posted By: Warrior (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 04:12 PM

 
 
Where the hell's Tully, TA?

Posted By: DrMcDreamy (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 04:13 PM

 
 
Yeah, but what about Magnum TA/Tully Blanchard?

Let's see how long we can keep this joke running.


Posted By: somecoolname (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 04:38 PM

 
 
Where was Magnum PI vs Terry Garvin in the I quit timebomb match from Slamboree 85?!

Posted By: ButchReedMark (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 05:18 PM

 
 
How can you do an article on I Quit matches and not mention Tully Blanchard vs. Magnum TA?

Posted By: JJ (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 06:24 PM

 
 
I take it that the Tully/Magnum match wasn't the most popular I Quit Match you are likely to find out there.

Then again, when the Backlund/Hart one is mentioned as a "classic" blowoff and the cage one is ignored, people have a right to be annoyed.


Posted By: DomDom (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 07:06 PM

 
 
Austin, Bret from Wrestle Mania 13 was NOT an I Quit match it was a submission match

Posted By: natedoggcata (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 07:41 PM

 
 
LOL @ All the comments either asking why he didn't mention TA-Blanchard or saying that Bret-Austin was a submission match, not an I Quit match.

Posted By: Mista Grimm (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 07:54 PM

 
 
I know that Bret Hart vs. Austin was called a submission match, but several times during the match on commentary, they made reference to how somebody can win by having the other person say I Quit, and during the brawl in the crowd, Jerry Lawler said that it was going to be hard for Ken Shamrock to hear one of them say I Quit.

Posted By: JJ (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 07:58 PM

 
 
Mike, good column, obvious misses aside...

To those who think that Hart / Austin was an I Quit match, or consider a Submission Match the same thing... one can end at any time, from any move, as long as the guy says "I Quit."

The other needs a SUBMISSION move to be executed.

Thus: Magnum TA digs spike into Tully's eye- I QUIT.

Cena beats JBL's ass all over the place- I QUIT.

Sharpshooter in the middle of the ring- SUBMISSION.

I know it's tough, but together, we can educate each other.


Posted By: Oswald (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 08:26 PM

 
 
Still no love for Steph vs. Vince???

Posted By: mr_wishart (Guest)  on May 18, 2008 at 09:06 PM

 
 
Not that they were great matches, but evryone seems to have forgot the Rey/Chavo had a couple of I Quit matches

Posted By: Jay (Guest)  on May 19, 2008 at 06:25 AM

 
 
Flair/Foley?

Posted By: Ricky (Guest)  on June 12, 2008 at 11:22 PM

 


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