411’s Wrestler of the Week 06.02.08: Week 9
Posted by Larry Csonka on 06.02.2008
Edge wins big, Batista takes out HBK, The Big Show is a monster again, Scotty II Hotty makes a big impact at the weekend FIP shows and the Undertaker is banished. But who had the goods to take home the WOTW award? Check out the latest edition of 411's Wrestler of the Week for all the details!
Welcome to Week 9, Year-FOUR, of 411's Wrestler of the Week. A quick overview to kick things off as we have some new rules for year four…
Each writer chooses FIVE wrestlers from any promotion and each wrestler gets a point total attached to that ranking. It looks a little like this…
1st - 5
2nd - 4
3rd - 3
4th - 2
5th - 1
Then we tally up the votes and the official 411 Wrestler of the Week is crowned. But wait, there's more! Each week the top SIX vote getters get a points value for their ranking which looks something like this…
1st - 15
2nd - 12
3rd - 9
4th - 6
5th - 3
6th - 1
...and they go towards the 411 Wrestler of the Year award to be announced each year at WrestleMania. This will be posted every Monday. Let's see who wins this week…
The Voting! Andy Clark
1) Undertaker
OK, award me mark points, but since I have no idea when (or if) he's coming back and they did such a great job of putting the match over that I'm giving Taker the "end of career" love that I gave Ric Flair. Sure, he'll probably be back but he busted his ass in that match and took more bumps (and some awful unprotected chair shots) then a guy of his age and stature needed too. This is one of those rare weeks where the guy that lost his title match is getting the props. Suck on it, comment guys.
2) Edge- Edge won the World Heavyweight Title in a great main event, "ending" the career of Undertaker. Plus he had a fun Cutting Edge on Friday. All in all a pretty good week.
3) Batista- Finally have Shawn Michaels the ass kicking he's needed for the last three months. "I DON'T love you and I'm NOT sorry."
4) Big Show
5) Randy Orton
Jeff Small
1) Undertaker
The Undertaker came off looking pretty invincible tonight fending off La Familia before succumbing to a vicious fall. Throw in the fact that La-Z-Boy would never hire him due to his lack of selling chairs and he was at the top of his game. While I do not think this is the last time we see the Undertaker in action, if it is, it's a fitting way to go out.
2) Edge - Retired our #1 wrestler of the week. Plus he won the World Heavyweight Title! Not too shabby for someone who has been booked very weak against the Undertaker since February.
3) Batista - Gave HBK quite a lashing in their Stretcher Match. The "I don't love you and I'm not sorry" line was epic too.
4) Big Show
5) Randy Orton
Ryan Byers
1) Edge
Even with a WWE pay per view on Sunday, this was a fairly uninspiring week in terms of wrestlers accomplishing anything that I feel makes them strong WOTW candidates. In that case, I may as well give top honors to Edge, since he had probably the biggest kayfabe accomplishment of the week, i.e. winning the main event of One Night Stand and supposedly "ending the Undertaker's career." Of course, I know the Deadman will be back in less than a month. You know the Deadman will be back in less than a month. That diminishes Edge's accomplishment significantly, but he's still probably the best we can do this phenomenally weak voting cycle.
2) mc KZ - He may be the low man on the totem pole in Dragon Gate's newly formed WORLD-1 stable, but the fact that he's in a unit at all signifies the final step in KZ's growth from NEX young boy to full-fledged DG roster member. Good for him.
3) Scotty II Hotty - Scotty was victorious in back-to-back main events in FIP. Hey, if he were an ROH regular, that would be enough to at least get him a vote from Berman. Let's not create a double standard in which ex-WWE comedy guys don't get some love for doing the same things that No Remorse Corps members get votes for.
4) Nick & Matt Jackson
5) Melina Perez & Beth Phoenix
Michael Bauer
1) Edge
The TLC match is Edge's specialty and we saw why once again here. Yes, he needed the Edge-heads, Chavo, and Bam to distract the Undertaker, but in the end, it was Edge pushing the Taker threw the tower of tables and getting the title while all of his help had been disposed of. Bottom line: He's the champ of Smackdown again and The Undertaker is no more.
2) Batista: Great match with HBK that saw Big Dave getting his big win.
3) HHH: Would have been #2 if the match was not need to be ended like that.
4) Big Show
5) Melina/Beth Pheonix
Matt Short
1) Edge
Won a great TLC match and captured the World Heavyweight Championship again. He's on top of the heap on Smackdown now having eliminated his chief rival the Undertaker. "Permanently."
2) Batista: Bested Shawn Michaels in a dramatic stretcher match. Love the ending line to the match by the way.
3) Jimmy Rave: I'm one of the biggest Jimmy Rave detractors out there, but even I'm impressed that he not only won his opening match in the New Japan Best of Super Juniors but he did it against AKIRA, a superstar in New Japan.
4) Randy Orton
5) Big Show
Robert S. Leighty Jr
1) Edge
He wins his fifth World Title and "banishes" the Undertaker from the WWE all in 1 night. That is a lock for Wrestler of the Week in my book.
2) Batista: The match wasn't as good as I hoped, but Big Dave went over strong. He also looks like a bad ass now after killing Shawn dead. I also appreciated the "I don't love you, and I'm not sorry."
3) The Undertaker: It's a slow week, and figured he deserved a nod for taking those bumps on TLC. Still kind of shocked he took the bump through the 4 tables.
4) The Big Show
5) Randy Orton
Jerome Cusson
1) Edge
He FINALLY gets to beat 'Taker. I know it was pretty much his signature match, but at least he gets his long-deserved world title. Winning such a prominent world title equals the number one spot on this list if you ask me. So we have a fairly easy decision.
2) Undertaker: His career is not actually over, but he certainly worked his ass off yet again in a losing effort.
3) Beth Phoenix/Melina: This was one of the most impressive efforts I've seen from the women in quite some time. I knew how much better Melina had gotten, but to see her perform this well shocked me. We all knew Beth was winning, but props to the girls for managing to steal the show and prove the WWE might have just as good a women's division as TNA.
4) Scotty 2 Hotty
5) Batista
JT
1) The Undertaker
With his status unknown at this point combined with the "sendoff" that the WWE gave him (kayfabe or not), I too am have to go with the Undertaker. Just in case a sendoff for another Taker hiatus wasn't enough, he also happened to fall off a ladder through a double stack of tables after receiving 27 direct chair shots. Throw in the fact that he basically had to overcome Edge, Chavo, Bam Neely & the Edge guys, and he still ALMOST won the match. To me that is far more impressive.
2) Batista: DOMINATED Shawn Michaels, furthered the HBK/Dave/Jericho angle, and got the pin in tag action on SmackDown.
3) Edge: Yeah, he won the World Heavyweight Championship, but it was how. You have heard me say before that I think Vickie and Co. hurt Edge in a major way. In no way is he anyway near as credible a threat in my eyes as he was at the height of his solo heel act. Yippee, he's the champ; just took four other guys to do it.
4) Big Show
5) Randy Orton
ARI
1) Edge and the Undertaker
main event the WWE pay per view and have a great match that lives up to high expectations for a TLC match. It's been a while since WWE went out and put on just a wild and out there main event attraction with tons of bumps, chair shots and the big 4-table break and this one was well done and great.
2) HHH: Retains the WWE title to come full circle on the HHH vs. Orton saga.
3) Randy Orton: Gives it his all in the title match, has a cool spot with the DDT on the table and manages to gut through the likely broken collarbone to finish his match.
4) Scotty II Hotty
5) Jerry Lynn
Jarrod Westerfeld
1) Edge & Undertaker
All the cool kids are voting for them, so I'm going to as well. Edge wins back a World Title that he probably shouldn't have lost, as it now appears that Undertaker's Mania streak was protected for the sake of appeasing fans, and Undertaker goes and shows us all that old people really are more useful than being that rotting piece in the corner of a nursing home. Seriously, Taker goes and does some over the top things, and Edge gets a big title win – I can't separate the two accomplishments, as Edge's title win comes with some controversy, and Undertaker can't win the award as he came off a losing effort.
2) Batista: Gets back a win over Shawn, and delivers unto us all the anti-moment to counter the popular Mania feeling. Don't you feel all warm and fuzzy now?
3) Randy Orton: God this week is so light, but I'm going with the more popular votes, again. What more do you want? Apparently Orton may be injured thanks to his match, and will probably be out of the picture for a while, but still finished out his bout? That's gutsy, and earns him some kudo points. Oh, and only because, apparently, Gina Carano doesn't qualify as a wrestler…how does that work out?
4) Scotty II Hotty
5) Nick & Matt Jackson (Tag Team)
Samuel Berman
1) Ryo Saito & Susumu Yokosuka
The duo successfully retained their Open the Twin Gate Championships against stablemates Dragon Kid & PAC, showing that despite all of the press for the newly formed Real Hazard and WORLD-1 stables, Typhoon is still a force to be reckoned with. Saito & Yokosuka have actually developed into one of the more consistent teams worldwide lately, and are helping Typhoon to stay afloat while CIMA is on the shelf.
2) Scott Taylor and Roderick Strong (tie): A pair of FIP main event victories makes for an impressive week (and FIP debut) for the former WWF star, while Strong holds onto his FIP World Heavyweight Title in a Three Way Dance against former partner Austin Aries and ECW legend Jerry Lynn. (NOTE: Byers, you're absolutely right, it would be wrong for me to discriminate in this case.)
3) Nick & Matt Jackson: The PWG stars are making the most of their first Dragon Gate tour, racking up a surprising number of wins over veteran teams.
4) Jimmy Rave
5) Edge
Chris Lasdell
1) Edge
Slim week. My personal philosophy is that title win beats title retention, and with no other title wins, this is the easiest pick of the bunch. The match was great, despite all the outside help, and he "ended the career" of the Undertaker in the process.
2) Beth Phoenix/Melina: Finally, a woman's match gets some good time on pay per view, and they showed what they can do with it. I didn't see the match until about 10 minutes ago, but if I had my Instant Analysis (which can be seen today, RIGHT HERE, on 411mania.com!!!) of the PPV would have been a lot more favorable. See, it's not just the TNA women who can wrestle...they just got the time to show it.
3) Big Show: He made me laugh and kick the asses of 4 other guys. In a week where not even a relevant INDY title changed hands, that's good enough.
4) Batista
5) Scotty 2 Hotty
Ryan Merholz
1) Edge/The Undertaker
Put on an amazing TLC match at One Night Stand which more than made up for a cut-short WWE Title match. These guys have been having the feud of the year and their match at ONS was no exception to the trend. Sick bumps, intense drama, and stellar action = awesome feud culmination.
2) Batista: Demolished HBK and left him lying on a stretcher. This was a definitive win for Big Dave, who has largely been floundering since ending his feud with The Undertaker prior to Wrestlemania. Oh, and he doesn't love you.
3) The Big Show: Went berserk and destroyed a bunch of former champions on his way to a #1 contendership. Big Show has been on a tear since returning to WWE prior to Wrestlemania and he continued to dominate at ONS.
4) Beth Phoenix
5) Randy Orton
Daniel Wilcox
1) Edge/Undertaker
Usually Edge would get the lone vote for number one this week, but the fact that Taker took some of the bumps that he did means we've got a tie. Edge regain the World Championship and for now, ended the career of the Undertaker; not a bad night's work.
2) Big Show: Show was awesome at One Night Stand and is on his way to a ECW Championship match with Kane.
3) Triple H: Retained the WWE Championship against Randy Orton, albeit in dubious circumstances.
4) Batista
5) Jeff Hardy
Stuart James
1) Edge & Undertaker
Gotta give them props. Awesome main event. It was pretty much everything I hoped it would be and more, and Taker even took the four tables bump that Bubba Dudley made oh-so famous. Great main event, and an ending which adds so much intrigue, especially with the draft coming up.
2) Dave Batista: Oh yeah, I liked this! Batista went out there and killed Shawn Michaels for our viewing pleasure in an awesome way, as this angle continues to build in favorable directions.
3) Big Show: Big Show proved last night: it doesn't matter how many guys have Singapore Canes - when you're 7 foot tall, he's just going to sit on you all.
4) Beth Phoenix
5) HHH
SAT
1) Edge/Undertaker
Edge gets the top slot for winning the World Heavyweight Title in a TLC Match and ending the Undertaker's career and I also have to give the Undertaker props for almost winning this match with everything stacked against him.
2) Batista: Batista gets the second slot for winning the stretcher match against Shawn Michaels.
3) Big Show: Big Show gets the third slot for winning the number one contender ship match against four other world champions.
4) Triple H
5) Randy Orton
Andy Critchell
1) Edge
Retired the Undertaker (at least for now) and bumped his ass off the whole time. Add another WHT reign to the Rated R Superstar as he builds one hell of a resume.
2. Beth Phoenix - There was no title on the line, this was all about establishing Beth as THE dominant diva in WWE. Mission accomplished. Her submission hold on Melina to end the match was one of the sickest things I have seen in a long time.
3. Batista – Few times has someone beat up HBK as completely as Big Dave did on Sunday. It seems like booking is behind him once again and now that Taker is "retired" maybe he's in line for another program with Edge or maybe he continues on with HBK and Y2J. In either case, Big Dave is going to be featured quite a bit.
4. Big Show
5. Mike Adamle
Larry Csonka
1) Edge
He defeated the Undertaker (with a little help from his friends) and by doing that won the world title and BANISHED the Undertaker from the WWE. That's a good week.
2) The Undertaker: The man put in an awesome performance this weekend at One Night Stand, and deserves some respect for that.
3) Christian Cage, Rhino and The Big Show: Both qualified for the KOTM match, which seems to have gone largely forgotten. Also Show earns himself an ECW title shot after a dominating performance.
4) Batista
5) Beth Phoenix
THE WINNERS!
Special Mention…Randy Orton and Scotty II Hotty - 14 Votes
Fifth Place…Beth Phoenix - 18 Votes
Fourth Place…The Big Show - 32 Votes
Third Place…Batista - 48 Votes
The domination of Shawn Michaels gets Batista some love from the voters this week.
Second Place…The Undertaker - 56 Votes
The Undertaker gets a lot of respect from the panel as he took flight and went through four tables after fighting off the RMY. Unfortunately it was in a losing battle as he is now BANISHED from WWE.
Wrestler of the Week…Edge - 82 Votes
Edge banished the Undertaker, won the main event of One Night Stand and went home with the World Title. All in a night's work.
Yearend Standings~!
The guys from the WWE dominated the list this week. Batista vaulted over Matt Hardy and took over the top spot, while we had a ton of debuts. Stay tuned for June here at WOTW, because with two more PPV's and the upcoming draft, this list could drastically change in four-weeks.
Batista – 33 (Smackdown)
Matt Hardy – 30 (Smackdown)
Suwama – 24 (All Japan) King William Regal – 24 (RAW) {Suspended}
EPIC FAIL Count: 4
People bitching at Berman Count: 10
Banking on that in advance, ladies and gents. =D
Posted By: Kevin F. (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 12:47 PM
I love how words like NO BUYS, OFFENDED, BANISHED, BANNED, are always capitalized on the site. Always makes me lol'd.
Anyways Edge and Batista deserve to be at the top of that list. Both came out of One Night Stand looking like a million bucks and IMO both have cemented their spots as true main event stars in the WWE.
Posted By: natedoggcata (Registered) on June 02, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Just a note- let's be honest, those of you who put taker over Edge... you really are just scared Edge will top Matt Hardy in votes. Shame on you. Oh well, at least that boring POS isn't #1 anymore.
Posted By: Hmm (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Stupid Smarks.. Undertaker > Edge
Posted By: Cuck Fena (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:02 PM
"I love how words like NO BUYS, OFFENDED, BANISHED, BANNED, are always
capitalized on the site. Always makes me lol'd."
Really? That's the one thing that's always annoyed me (especially in Csonka's writings) since it's so goddamn gimmicky.
Posted By: Guest#7057 (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Wow! Did anyone watch TNA this week? How can you not at least mention AJ Styles for taking the sick beatdown?
Posted By: thegunisgood (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Ah, yes. It is that time of week again.
I firmly believe that Taker, Batista, and Edge are good top three picks in any order one chooses to put them. No arguments there.
However....
Berman = EPIC FAIL~!
Posted By: K-Money (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:24 PM
I mark hardcore for edge
Posted By: natedoggcata (Registered) on June 02, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Since when is taking a beatdown impressive? Oh man, screw winning a title or scoring a big win, when you get the shit beaten out of you, you've had the BEST WEEK EVER!
Posted By: Guest#3934 (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:30 PM
"EPIC FAIL Count: 4
People bitching at Berman Count: 10
Banking on that in advance, ladies and gents. =D"
May I cash in an EPIC FAIL~! and a bitch towards Berman please?
Edge 5th? Seriously? Scot Taylor has won how many World Titles this week?
411's Writer of the Week
1. Not Berman
2. Not Berman
3. Not Berman
4. Not Berman
5. Not Berman
Posted By: The Sandman (ROH Champ) (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:30 PM
I don't get it. Can Berman afford PPV? What planet is he on? Does he receive his wrestling news from Google Translator? He really has no business contributing to this article.
Posted By: BuDDyLighT021 (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:36 PM
"Your opinion is different than me Berman, thus you must conform to everything I say or you suck!" - Posters on this site
Remember people, people are allowed to have other opinions than what you think and want.
Posted By: Joe (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:40 PM
Samuel Berman is either a troll or an idiot. Ryo Saito & Susumu Yokosuka at no.1?? What planet do you live on? Seriously, its so obvious that you just pick these obscure no-names to try and make yourself look clever and knowledgeable, unfortunately you just come off as a know-it-all tool. Get over yourself already, douchebag.
Posted By: Valkamor, Saviour Of The IWC (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:48 PM
Interestingly enough, I looked up "EPIC FAIL" in the dictionary, and it simply said "Samuel Berman".
Posted By: Hyperstorm, The Power-Supreme (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:51 PM
I can't believe that Adamle got a vote.
Posted By: Really? (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 01:54 PM
To all of the people bitching about this Berman guy, who gives a shit? It's just feeding this guy's ego complaining about it -- hell, I'm doing that right now by writing this.
Completely ignoring the guy's contributions would be the best way to go. Anyone who can't tell, or chooses to stay annoyed by, Berman's OBVIOUS attempts to get a rise out of people by making a conscious decision to deliberately disregard anything done by any wrestler seen by more than 300 people in North America, just needs to get over it. That's his role on this site and in this article, so let it go
Posted By: Indy Wrestling Kicks A**!! (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 02:02 PM
Only very, very weak booking for Edge prevent him from leading yearend standings. How many World titles Batista wins in 2008? Zero! Edge held for 3+ months, have great matches with Taker, but Batista leads, because people like MVP, Jericho and HBK bust their asses to make him looks better.
Posted By: L'Mago (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Now I understand why we're getting this flurry of WWE PPVs: it's to establish an early WWE grip over the WOTW rankings.
Posted By: Talwar (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 02:10 PM
Wow, that was easier than I thought.
Posted By: Kevin F. (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 02:11 PM
Yet again, Berman strikes with his garbage no-name picks. What a douchebag.
Posted By: Darth Mortis. (Registered) on June 02, 2008 at 02:23 PM
L'Mago, learn to read, we start our year AFTER Wrestlemania until next year's Wrestlemania.
Posted By: Michael Bauer (Registered) on June 02, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Yup, as usual Samuel Berman comes off looking like a chump for his craptastic WOTW picks that nobody but him cares about.
Posted By: Jonni J (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Berman, when it comes to wrestler of the week picks, you are indeed the living embodiment of EPIC FAIL.
Posted By: Paul Virilio (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 02:43 PM
Samuel Berman
I understand this has all to do with personal opinion and what you enjoy most, but you cant tell me some 2 people maybe 1% of people who watch mainstream wrestling actually maybe even heard of let alone seen the match can come above a world title win or a career ending moment??
Thjere is times when trying to be different gets you laughed at...this is definately 1 of those times, especially when your #1 pick wasnt even in the top 5 of anyone elses votes, tonigh Samuel Berman you are a dumbass
Posted By: Ian (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 03:13 PM
thegun, you mean we should give him credit for getting his ass beat, for a second week in a row? No thanks...one week of him getting beat down was significant, a second was just down right stupid writing.
Posted By: Jarrod Westerfeld (Registered) on June 02, 2008 at 03:23 PM
"L'Mago, learn to read, we start our year AFTER Wrestlemania until next year's
Wrestlemania."
Sorry. I forget about this. I know I miss something in my comments, but can't rememeber it :)
Posted By: L'Mago (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 03:35 PM
Eddie Ellner > Berman
Posted By: Not even a nice try (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 04:14 PM
Berman, you have quite rightfully been flamed to hell and back in this comments section for your stupid, arrogrant WOTW picks. Hopefully now you will realise what a douchebag you are.
Posted By: Stanley Kubrick (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 05:09 PM
Berman, I love Dragon Gate and while FIP isn't my favourite I can see your point SORT of. But putting the fucking Young Bucks ahead of a 4 1/2 star match (Edge/Taker) is both workrate and kayfabely wrong. I know you're an indy guy and I am too, but come on.
Posted By: Kawadafan83 (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 05:37 PM
You know Berman I have defended you before on here but this week you are just being are just being an elitist smart mark and that is all there is to it. Look I understand you wanting to be the INDY/PURO guy who wants to remind people that there is more to the wrestling world than WWE or TNA but that doesn’t mean you ignore what TNA and WWE are doing? I want to make sure I have this right you are saying that the winners of a tag match for the #4 Tag Titles In Japan ( yes I understand that in the context of Dragon Gate those title are more important than just “Tag Titles”) Should get more praise than what was a match that ended a feud that was the main event for the #1 promotion in the worlds PPV that was for one of the Top 5 titles in the world? If that is the case than you are just being the worst type of smart fan. I love Dragon Gate as well but you need to remember that you need to put matches in context to there importance to the wrestling world.
Sometimes it is ok to put INDY/PURO stuff above the mainstream US product but not all the time and not like you did this week as you just loose credibility when you do so. Basically all you did this week as make it look like you where trying to come up with picks that would get people upset and get a reaction out of them (Something Csonka seems to be letting happen more and more) which I am sure is good for hits but makes me not want to read more and more of the content on this site. So Berman just stop sounding like a reject from the DVDR community because all you are doing is making the rest of us that like stuff outside of WWE/TNA look stupid.
I will say this to all the people that keep saying “This is a Mainstream site” I have news for you the only Mainstream wrestling sites would be WWE.com and Tnawrestling.com if you’re not on those sites you’re not one of those two sites your not on a mainstream wrestling site so can we please stop with that because all it really is is an excuse not to care about wrestling you can’t see on TV, that said I guess it means that it would be ok for this site to talk about AAA or CMLL instead of PURO and US INDY wrestling
Posted By: Truthslayer (Registered) on June 02, 2008 at 06:13 PM
berman's picks were fine. wwe and tna are total trash right now. i respect that he is honest.
Posted By: Guest#2727 (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 06:34 PM
Probably unrelated, wouldn't 4 tables actually make the bump safer then landing on the "padded" floor?
Posted By: Lukas (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 06:39 PM
How can anybody vote for Edge? What did HE do that was so impressive?
Posted By: Capt. Smooth (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 06:45 PM
Welcome to week nine, year TWO of 411 Samuel Berman Bashing of the Week.
Posted By: Ari Berenstein (Registered) on June 02, 2008 at 06:52 PM
Wrestler of the Week is the greatest "popcorn" (read: guilty pleasure) column on this site for the comments alone. I was about to say the column should be discontinued entirely, but it's so entertaining, I don't know what I was thinking. Sit back and watch the fireworks as geeks get entirely too worked up over subjective ratings of a pre-determined sport on a cult Internet site.
Posted By: MP (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 07:01 PM
PS anyone who actually gets upset about who another person chooses for their Wrestler of the Week should taken out back and SHOT. There, I said it, even though it has no chance of making it through the censors.
Posted By: MP (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 07:07 PM
Samuel Berman is an awesome troll.10/10
Posted By: Ed (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 07:35 PM
Leave it to Berman to put an unknown, no name, made up, Jap tag team #1.
Posted By: Berman has a Nubbin (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 07:55 PM
Berman's picks = EPIC FAIL~
Posted By: Isaac Yankem D.D.S. (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Thank you MP. Gee people give it a rest. I personally don't care who gets voted WOTW, and I'm sure the wrestlers don't either.
Posted By: Chikara (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 10:00 PM
That Berman is an idiot. He's such an indy mark. ROH is not better than WWE you moron. That TLC was insane and Edge and Taker are the wrestlers of the week. No doubt about it, but you take Scotty 2 Hotty? What an fool!
Posted By: Joe Osborne (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 10:23 PM
So Jerome Cussan, you think that one good match from the WWE "divas" is equivalent to all the excellent wrestling that the TNA women's division has given us over the past year? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!! Any objective observer knows that the WWE women's division still features too many women chosen for their looks who have no place in a wrestling ring, and maybe four women who can actually go. Meanwhile, the TNA women's division features nothing but women who can go, and who have given us one good match after another, and one good angle after another. You, Cussan, are the writer's equivalent of a rooty poo, candy ass jabronie, and you've drunk entirely too much of Vince Macasshole's kool aid. Any fan who wants to see good women's wrestling will tune into Impact on Thursday nights -- and that's the truth, because truthie says so!
Posted By: truthsayer (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 10:52 PM
I would have voted for Kimbo Slice as #1
Posted By: Ryan Mancuso (Registered) on June 02, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Truthsayer----
go start a Blog... NO ONE wants to read your rants "truthie" -- that's gay
Darth Mortis was right, you're a dickless virgin TROLL.
Wrestler of the week was great though!
Posted By: Piledrive Jim (Guest) on June 02, 2008 at 11:49 PM
truthslayer: I'd love to take your arguement seriously, but you couldn't even spell my name right.
Oh and 1999 called. They'd like their catchphrase back. Please send it back quickly and quietly.
Posted By: Jerome Cusson (Registered) on June 03, 2008 at 01:35 AM
Jerome Cusson
That was not me it was some other guy. I would agree with the fact with what you said about the Diva match.
Posted By: Truthslayer (Registered) on June 03, 2008 at 02:21 AM
Berman = #1 Heel on 411!
Seriously though, are his picks that big a deal?
If he truly believes in them, then he has every right to make that choice regardless of whether or not you agree (it is a subjective format after all). If he does it for a reacion, then you all give him one and justify his picks all the same.
Either way, since he is the only one picking these guys, they don't make a dent in the rankings when its all said and done.
Posted By: Dr Domino (Guest) on June 03, 2008 at 05:16 AM
is anybody else depressed at how completely forgettable tna is becoming?
this week, only 2 tna wrestlers get a vote? sad sad sad.
Posted By: b-rad (Guest) on June 03, 2008 at 11:41 AM
I just find it funny that in the five years I've been here, I've never even heard of this Berman guy except in the WOTW column.
Anyways, he's a troll, and every time you people complain you are feeding not only him, but giving the site hits.
So a job well done to Berman I guess. Whoever the heck you are.
Posted By: Penguin (Guest) on June 03, 2008 at 12:39 PM
I sat through TNA last week, nothing impressive was done that stood up to these kind of achievements made during the week. In fact, while I was crying all through Impact, I was pining away for the more decent show that occurred the week before.
So while some would argue that we need to spread the love evenly between WWE and TNA, I would contest that by all rights we should then spread the love throughout ALL of the wrestling industry, just to try and level it off. Thus, making Berman's choices justified by this logic alone. If you can't agree to it, then you're presenting a double standard that leaves a sour taste in mouths, as you're basically saying "it's okay to only pick media products, and spread the acclaim evenly between the two, when one clearly didn't do anything really earn that acclaim, but never touch on anything outside of the media products, even when they do earn the acclaim, because they don't matter in the eyes of us who own television sets." It's really ridiculous.
Over all, no love for TNA if they didn't have anything worth really talking about. Same went for the indy's last week.
Posted By: Jarrod Westerfeld (Registered) on June 03, 2008 at 03:45 PM
First of all, I apologize for misspelling Cusson's name. That's the kind of thing I do try to get right, as a matter of respect, even when I'm flaming somebody. As for the catchphrases, I watch wrestling for fun, and adapting the phrases for my own use is part of that fun. If there's one fault the IWC has, it's taking wrestling too seriously, and forgetting the fun factor. I do however stand by my basic point: the WWE women's division is in no way comparable to the TNA women's division. Just think if Mickie James, Victoria, and Beth Phoenix were consistently used well, instead of being used to set up whatever model/escort posed for Playboy most recently. As long as Maria is booked more strongly than Mickie, WWE's women's division will suck.
Second point: "Truthslayer" and I are two differrent posters. Let's try to keep it straight. It should be easy, my posts are the grammatical ones.
(And I think that makes us even for the misspelling of Cusson's name! lol)
And Piledrive Jim -- I'm not going to take anyone seriously who uses the word "gay" as an all purpose insult, and sprinkles CAPS throughout his post like a twelve year old. If you didn't know, now you know.
Posted By: truthsayer (Guest) on June 03, 2008 at 04:32 PM
Why are you answering my email in here?
Posted By: thegunisgood (Guest) on June 03, 2008 at 05:51 PM
"Truthslayer: I'd love to take your arguement seriously, but you couldn't even spell my name right."
Swing and a Miss.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You didn't even spell his name right terd rock from the sun.
Posted By: Jerome "Jackson" Cusson (Guest) on June 03, 2008 at 06:24 PM