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The Top Ten 6.03.08: 80's Matches
Posted by Julian Williams on 06.03.2008



Good day gents and ma'ams and welcome to another classic edition of The Top Ten. I apologize for being MIA the last few weeks, but I went away to PA for vacation and the resort that I stayed at apparently has never heard of this new invention called "The Internet". Because of that, I've been unplugged for the last week and that's why I'm late with this column. But I am making it up to you by not only giving you ten, but giving you TWENTY of the greatest matches of the 1980's. Love me people. Love me.

Julian Unwanted and Unnecessary PPV in Review: The One Night Stand Edition


Jeff Hardy def. Umaga
I see a lot of people hating on this match by saying it resembled a hardcore RAW match from the late 90's and to that I say: Is that a bad thing? I remember those matches being damn entertaining and so was this one. It went all over the building and outside and included some great stuff like Jeff's staircase-assisted clothesline and Umaga delivering a sick release Catatonic to young Hardy. The finish was of course predictable, but you'll never see me complain about a man diving off of a production truck. That's just entertaining stuff folks.
Match Rating: ***

The Big Show def. John Morrison, CM Punk, Chavo Guerrero, & Tommy Dreamer
Color me surprised because this match greatly exceeded my expectations. Once I heard the stipulation for this match, I groaned, finished taking a shit, and then groaned again. Then when I saw that the canes placed on poles before the match, I thought we were going to have a contender for worst match of the year. But these guys beat the crap out of each other and seeing Shawn Merriman cane the crap out of Chavo was enough to make this match good in my book.
Match Rating: ***

John Cena def. JBL
This was another match that surprised me because typically First Blood matches suck ass, but these guys were able to make it interesting by constantly covering up everytime they were struck in the head which added to the suspense. Don't get me wrong, this match wasn't great or anything, but it kept my interest which most First Blood matches can't do. I liked the finish with Cena using the chain to cause JBL to bleed from the mouth (even though it happened way too fast, as soon as Cena put the chain around JBL's neck, he was already bleeding). Solid stuff between these two.
Match Rating: **1/2

Beth Phoenix def. Melina
Ya'kno how you know this was a pretty good contest? The crowd was soo ready to shit all over this match, including various people trying to start up "Chyna" chants, but it was good enough detain the haters and keep the crowd entertained. These ladies really took it to each other and the finish that saw Beth bend Melina so much that her damn head was touching her feet was unbelievable. I look forward to more matches between these two.
Match Rating: **1/2

Batista def. Shawn Michaels
This match wasn't quite as good as I was expecting it to be, but it was still a damn good contest. Batista beating the crap out of HBK and proclaiming, "Just so you know, I DON'T love you and I'm NOT sorry" was quite glorious. I love the mini-plot with Jericho as I have no idea where it's leading. My gut tells me that Jericho didn't really come out to "encourage" Shawn, but rather to piss Batista off more to inflict further damage on HBK. But then again, they've swerved everyone so far in this feud because we all thought by now one of the three men involved would turn heel and yet they all remain faces. I look forward to see how this turns out.
Match Rating: ***1/2

Triple H def. Randy Orton to retain the WWE Championship
It's hard to rate this one because it looked like they were headed towards a great match until Randy's unfortunate injury. It really sucks that he got hurt, but seeing as he was planning on taking time off soon anyway, it probably worked out for the best. I will say, though, that he really needs to stop taking that bump where the RKO is reversed to him getting dumped on the floor. Everytime I used to see it, I would cringe because I felt he could get hurt doing that and sure enough, he did. This was good stuff before the injury and I can only imagine how good it could have been if it weren't cut short.
Match Rating: **1/2

Edge def. The Undertaker to become the NEW World Heavyweight Championship
This was great stuff. I expected it to be good, but it was even better than I imagined. If it weren't for Edge setting back a table that fell for no apparent reason and The Undertaker being VERY obvious to line up the ladder with the tables on the outside, this match might have been worthy of 5 stars. It featured some great action and wicked spots like Edge getting the Last Ride through two tables, Undertaker taking NUMEROUS unprotected chairshots to the head, the Edgeheads both getting thrown the tables on the outside and the Undertaking crashing through four tables off of a ladder. I never though I'd see ‘Taker take such a risky bump, I thought for sure when I saw those tables being set up that Edge was going to be the one going through them. This was a fantastic match that I cant wait to watch again.
Match Rating: ****1/4

Overall Show Thoughts
This was a very fun show to watch. Everything was entertaining, I can honestly say that I wasn't bored throughout the entire time I was watching it. If the Orton/HHH match hadn't been cut short, this could have seriously been in the running for PPV of the year. As it is, it's a very good show that I would definitely recommend you check out if you have three hours to spare.
Show Rating: 7.75(Out Of Ten)

The Top Twenty Matches of the 1980's


20) Greg Valentine vs. Roddy Piper (Starrcade '83)
This is old school brutality at its finest. This was a blood feud and the only way to settle the issues between these two men was in a brutal dog collar match which strapped both men to each other via a steel chain dog collar around their necks. These two beat the piss out of each other with that chain including Valentine wrapping the chain around Piper's eyes and Piper attempting to suffocate Valentine by covering his entire mouth with the steel chain. Valentine would soon target Piper's ear and brutalize it with some stiff shots with the steel chain until Piper's ear was gushing blood. Valentine would lock in a sleeper and all hope seemed to be lost for Piper, until he was able to fight back with the steel chain. Valentine was once again able to gain control of the match until he missed an elbow drop which allowed Piper to cover him for the three count. This was one hell of an intense brawl that still holds up well nearly 25 years later.

19) The Rock N Roll Express vs. The Andersons (Starrcade '86)
If you love cage matches and classic tag team wrestling, this is the perfect match for you. These two teams put on one hell of a wrestling exhibition and Ricky Morton played well…..Ricky Morton to perfection. The crowd was absolutely rabid as The Andersons displayed perfect tag team wrestling by singling out Morton and wearing him down. Morton's near tags had the crowd freaking out, including one where he was thisclose to tagging Gibson and then got NAILED with a foot to the head by Ole. The end came when Gibson couldn't stand watching the abuse Morton was taking anymore and ran in, then delivered a dropkick to Ole which enabled Ricky to use his last bit of energy to cover for the pin. This is CLASSIC stuff here.

18) The Rockers vs. Buddy Rose & Doug Somers (AWA, 9/2/86)
This was a match early in the career of Shawn Michaels and he knew how to do a great bladejob even back then. This was just a brutal contest that saw the bigger team of Rose and Somers decimate the Rockers and open both of them up. The Rockers started fighting back and soon they were able to bloody up their opponents by busting Somers wide open. I mean the dude was bleeding all over the ring. This wild match continued until Rose clocked a ref and that was enough for a DQ. Even after the match was over, the Rockers continued to brawl with Somers and Rose on the floor until there was blood on the ring apron, on the floor, and even on the camera. Just a truly wild, bloody contest.

17) Sgt. Slaughter vs. Pat Patterson (MSG, 5/4/81)
This was an alley fight during the famous feud between Slaughter and Patterson during early 1981. The rules were that there was no ref and the match would be over when one man could no longer stand up. These two men beat the absolute shit out of each other, I mean if you didn't know better you would think it was a legit fight. Slaughter bled a mind-boggling amount as his entire face and tank top were drenched in blood. The ring and Patterson were covered with the Sarge's blood as well. Patterson eventually won the match when Slaughter's manager, The Grand Wizard, threw in the towel for him. This was just an unbelievably bloody contest and if you're a fan of bloody matches and have never seen this one, I suggest you try to find a copy ASAP.

16) Ric Flair vs. Kerry Von Erich (WCCW Christmas Star Wars '82)
This match is mainly remembered for the Freebirds turning heel on Kerry Von Erich and setting up the awesome Freebirds/Von Erichs feud, but what is forgotten is that this was one hell of a match. Michael Hayes was the special ref for the match (even though there already an official ref for the match….don't ask) and Terry Gordy was the special outside enforcer to make sure nobody tried to get in the cage. This was a brutal and bloody affair with Flair being busted open early in the match by being repeatedly thrown into the cage and then working on Kerry's leg in order to end the punishment. Flair cinched in the Figure 4 and after a few minutes (literally) in the hold, Von Erich was able to reverse the hold. From there, Kerry gave Flair a taste of his own medicine by working over his legs. Flair fought back and went up top to try to chop down Von Erich, but instead got met with the Claw! That seemed to be the end for Ric, but he was just able to get his foot under the rope. Flair soon regained control by choking out Von Erich despite repeated warnings from Hayes, so Hayes said, "Fuck It" and knocked out Flair. He then told Von Erich to cover for the win, but Kerry refused since he wanted to win the match by himself. That pissed Hayes off and he began to walk out of the cage, but at the same time, Flair recovered to give Kerry a high knee, which knocked him right into Hayes. Terry Gordy, taking offense that Kerry bumped into Hayes, slammed the cage door on his head. That seemed to be the end for Kerry, but he was able to kick out at 2 (which the official ref counted). That pissed Hayes off and he got in the face of the official ref which got him promptly ejected to the back. The match continued and it seemed like Kerry was going to overcome all the odds, until he collapsed due to all the punishment he had received. That automatically gave Flair the victory as everyone was concerned with Kerry's condition. This was an entertaining spectacle with one hell of a heel turn, but it was also an awesome match to boot as Flair led Von Erich to one of his best matches ever.

15) The Rockers vs. The Brainbusters (MSG 1/23/89)
This is what tag team wrestling is all about. Pacing, timing, exciting, and keeping the crowd on the edge of their seats. The Rockers dominated the early portions of this match by giving the Busters a taste of their own medicine by heeling it up. The Busters were finally able to gain control when Tully lured Michaels around the ring until Arn blindsided him with a vicious clothesline. At that point, The Busters secluded Michaels and started pounding on him. Everytime Michaels got close to a tag, The Busters would cut him off and the crowd would get even more antsy. Michaels finally got the hot tag and The Rockers cleaned house until Arn tripped up Marty on a suplex attempt which allowed Tully to cover for the three count. This match is just unbelievable and needs to be seen by anyone who calls themselves a wrestling fan.

14) Ric Flair vs. Lex Luger (Great American Bash '88)
Believe it or not, there was a time when Lex Luger could actually go in the ring and this is a classic example of it. This was a match for the NWA World Title and Luger was hungry from the outset of the match. He completely dominated the early going until Flair was able to bait him outside to rake his eyes and start chopping away. Flair then took over from there and after a valiant attempt at a comeback by Luger, Flair focused on the leg and began dissecting it.

13) The Midnight Express vs. The Fantastics (Clash Of The Champions I)
Many people remember Clash I for Flair/Sting or the tag match between Barry Windham & Lex Lugar against Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson, but in my opinion THIS was the match that stole the show. This match was just an all-out brawl with both teams hitting each other with whatever they could get their hands on including tables and chairs and featured some insane action like Bobby Eaton delivering a mother f-ing bulldog to Tommy Rogers through a table. The Midnights secluded Rogers for the majority of the match until Rogers was able to get the hot tag (which the ref missed and got promptly thrown on his ass for) and that made the match break down into a PIER SIX BRAWL!~! The ending came when Jim Cornette accidentally hit Bobby Eaton with the RACKET OF DOOM which allowed the Fantastics to hit The Rocket Launcher on him for the three count. But then the ref that was initially thrown out on his ass for missing the hot tag came back in the ring and DQ'd The Fantastics for putting their hands on him. This was just a hotly contested match that featured some brawling that was way ahead of its time and showed why The Midnights weren't just the best tag team of their day, but maybe the best tag team ever.

12) Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk (Great American Bash '89)
This was the main event for what some consider to be the greatest PPV of all time. The backstory for this match was that Terry Funk was a judge in the final match between Flair and Steamboat and after Flair won, he asked for a title shot and once Flair declined, Funk went apeshit and beat the hell out of Flair including a piledriver on a table. This match was filled with fast paced, intense and violent action. Both men just beat the holy hell out of each other with Flair piledriving Funk twice, Funk WHACKING Flair in the head with a branding iron, Flair returning the favor by CRACKING Funk in the head with the same branding iron, and Flair backdropping Funk on the concrete floor. The match ended after both men unsuccessfully tried to lock in their submission moves and once Funk went for an inside cradle, Flair countered by rolling into it and getting the 3 count. This was just an awesome, brutal match that is a testimony to how great both men were during their prime.

11) Ric Flair vs. Barry Windham (Crockett Cup '87)
This was a rematch to the classic they had on World Wide Wrestling and these two easily tore the house down once again. Flair was able to lock in The Figure 4 early in the match, but Windham shrugged that off and began to pummel the crap out of Ric. The crowd was SUPER hot as they really felt that Windham had Flair's number. Windham continued his relentless onslaught on Flair, including punching him so hard that Flair FLEW over the top rope. That was pretty awesome. Flair was able to gain control by countering an attempted piledriver on the floor by backdropping Windham onto the concrete. Flair took over from there, but it wasn't long until Windham fought back and was able to pin Flair for the 3 count following a missile dropkick! Not so fast, though, because Flair had his foot on the ropes so referee Tommy Young restarted the match. Once the match was restarted, the two men created numerous false finishes until Flair was able to grab Windham's tights to get the three count. This is a fantastic match that is definitely worth going out of your way to see.

10) Ric Flair vs. Harley Race (Starrcade '83)
Classic, classic, classic match. This one had it all. It was over the prestigious NWA Heavyweight title. It had the $25,000 bounty storyline(which would later be poorly duplicated by HHH and Goldberg) where Harley offered 25 G's to whoever took Flair out. Dick Slater and Bob Orton, Jr. answered the bounty and jacked up Flair's neck. Flair teased retirement only to come back and chase them off with a bat then give a CRAZY Flair promo. And we all know that CRAZY Flair promos rule. This match took place at the first Starrcade and was the first time that Flair was introduced as being from North Carolina. Flair bled like a champ, Race beat him down like a badass, but Flair still pulled it out and the crowd went crazy. An awesome, historical match.

9) Ric Flair vs. Barry Windham (World Wide Wrestling, 1/20/87)
This was the legendary one hour (actually 45 minute) draw on Worldwide TV which some felt was right up their with Savage/Steamboat as the greatest match of 1987. I honestly can't disagree because this match was non-stop action and had you on the edge of your seat for the entire duration. Barry Windham may be one of the most underrated performers of all-time and being matched up with Flair automatically made this an instant classic. What's so great about this match is that it seemed so effortless meaning that sometimes when watching a match, you could see the wrestlers strategizing about the next spot, but in this match everything was so damn fluid. It was truly a wonder to behold. Windham dominated the early portions of the match by using his speed and strength as an advantage over Flair, but soon Flair gained control by working over Windham's arm. Windham was able to slug Flair to get back into things, but it wasn't too long until Flair went after Windham's leg. Barry fought off the onslaught to begin working over Flair's leg and it became a game of who was going to make the other submit first as both men targeted each other's leg. The final minute was breathtaking as Windham did everything in his power to pin Flair before the time limit was reached, but Flair was barely able to kick out of a Lariat just as time expired. Awesome match that often gets overlooked, but it definitely is one of the greatest matches of both men's careers.

8) Magnum TA vs. Tully Blanchard (Starrcade '85)
This was the very definition of a blood feud so it was only fitting that both men would bleed all over the ring. Tully had stolen away Magnum's US title due to shenanigans with an illegal object. TA was out for his revenge and his title in a steel cage I Quit match. Both men beat the crap out of each other and had blood pouring down their heads. The image of Magnum's expression when he realized he'd been busted open is priceless. The match ended when Magnum jammed a splintered piece of chair into Tully's forehead allowing blood to squirt out and making Tully scream "YESSS" when asked if he quits. This was a timeless, violent encounter.

7) Ric Flair vs. Sting (Clash Of The Champions I)
This was the match that made Sting's career. Flair bumped all over the place for The Stinger in this match and I still feel to this day that in this match, Flair automatically turned Sting into a main event player. Sting was an up-and-comer at this point, but after this match he became the biggest face in WCW(well NWA at the time). This was for Flair's NWA title and there was a 45-minute time limit. Sting took it to Flair in this match and had the champ on the ropes at numerous times. With 30 seconds left before the time limit, Sting was able to lock in the Deathlock, but Flair held on until the time expired. The match was declared a draw(which incidentally was funny since before the match it was declared that there MUST BE A WINNER) and a star was born in Sting. He would go on to achieve great success in WCW, but this is the one match that turned him into the face of WCW for over a decade and he definitely has Flair to thank because 'Naitch put him over HUGE in this contest.

6) Ric Flair, Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson, Lex Luger & JJ Dillon vs. Dusty Rhodes, Nikita Koloff, The Road Warriors, & Paul Ellering (Great American Bash '87)
This was the first ever Wargames Match during the ‘Bash tour of 1987 and it was just as awesome as everyone thought it would be. Dusty and Arn started the match with some great back and forth interactions for about 5 minutes until the heel team won the coin toss and Tully came in. Dusty was able to fight off both men for a while, but it wasn't too long until the odds were too much and the future Brainbusters started dissecting Rhodes. That advantage would be voided when Animal came in next and proceeded to beat the crap out of Tully and Arn, especially Tully. Flair was next and he helped the heel team regain control until Koloff came in and beat the shit out of every heel in sight. Luger came in next to ward off Koloff and Flair gave him a wicked shot to the nuts which allowed both Flair and Tully to give Koloff two spike piledrivers. Dillon came in next followed by Ellering and after over 20 minutes of sheer brutality, the ending came when The Road Warriors pounded on Dillon unmercifully until he finally submitted. This is an all-time classic that features a wondrous amount of brutality and blood.

5) Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk (Clash Of The Champions 9)
Five Letters. Two Words. I Quit. Those words spoken by the great Gordon Solie made it seem like uttering those words would be so simple, but these two warriors would engage in an intense battle before either one even thought to say it. Flair dominated early with some wicked chops, but Funk proved himself to be a tough son-of-a-bitch by absorbing those stiff blows and fighting back. Funk would then dominate the next portion of the match with some hard left hand shots and some insulting slaps to the face. Those slaps were enough to awaken Flair and from that point on, all hell broke loose. Flair chopped the hell out of Funk all around ringside and tried to get his hands on Funk's manager, Gary Hart, which enabled Funk to gain control. Then in a great little sequence, Funk asked Flair if he remembered about his injured neck (from the plane crash) and told the ref to ask Flair to quit before he piledrived him and when Flair refused to quit, Funk not only piledrived him in the ring, but piledrived him on the floor as well. Brutal stuff at the time. Funk continued to dominate and tried to set up a table, but Flair fought back and then, in one of the coolest spots ever, Flair threw Funk across the table and headfirst into a steel chair. It's hard to describe, but awesome to look at. Flair dominated the rest of the match, but Funk showed incredible resiliency by taking the onslaught by Flair and not quitting until Flair locked in the Figure-4 in the middle of the ring and Funk had no choice but to quit. A great, intense brawl that set the standard for all I Quit matches that followed.

4) Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (Chi-Town Rumble '89)
This was the first encounter between Flair and Steamboat in their legendary 1989 series of matches and this match gave a sign of all the greatness that was to follow. Steamboat was a family man who wanted to bring honor and prestige back to the World Heavyweight Title and Flair was the stylin', profilin' Champion that thought of Steamboat as a bore. Steamboat was able to dominate early by winning some lightning quick exchanges and surprised Flair by just how quick he was. Flair was able to regain control later in the match with some wicked chop. Then these two men had one of the best exchanges I've ever seen as Flair flipped over the top rope and climbed to the top for a crossbody, but Steamboat was able to counter into a roll up for a two count and when both men got up, Flair was able to hit a reverse atomic drop and apply the Figure-4. That's the kind of stuff that leaves you breathless as a fan, just a terrific exchange. Steamboat was able to get to the ropes to break the hold and after both men exchanged some stiff shots, Flair ran the ropes and crossbodied Steamboat over the top rope. Flair dominated from that point on and seemed to be on the verge of retaining his title until Steamboat fought back and came off the top rope with a crossbody that knocked not only Flair out, but the referee as well. With the ref out, Flair tried to take advantage, but Steamboat was able to roll him up to pick up the three count and the World Heavyweight Championship. Despite the ref bump, this match was absolutely flawless but who knew that these two would go on top this terrific performance.

3) Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat (Wrestlemania 3)
Whenever you think of all-time great Wrestlemania matches, this has to be one of the first to come to mind. Not only did they have an excellent storyline attached to this match, but both of these combatants put on one hell of a show in front of the Silverdome crowd. This was a great back and forth contest that saw an unbelievable amount of near falls and the crowd was left on the edge of their seat during the entire match because it seemed like it could end at any moment. The end came when George "The Animal" Steele knocked Macho off of the top rope and by the time he recovered to pick up Steamboat for a scoop slam, Steamboat was able to counter into a rollup for the three count. This is a great, timeless match that has to be viewed by anybody who calls themselves a fan of wrestling.

2) Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (Clash Of The Champions 6)
This was the rematch to their classic encounter at Chi-Town Rumble and this match was contested under 2/3 falls rules. The first fall was intense as both men slapped each other in the face and chopped the shit out of each other before getting down to some frenetic action. The chops that these two gave each other sounded like gunshots going off, they were just absolutely VICIOUS. The first fall ended after Steamboat missed a missile dropkick which made Flair go for the Figure-4, but Steamboat was able to counter into a roll-up, but then Flair REVERSED that into a roll-up of his own for the three count. Steamboat started the second fall feverishly knowing that his back was against the wall. He delivered some wicked chops before dropping about 14 or 15 elbows in a row onto Flair's knee. Flair seemed dead to the world by that point until Steamboat locked in a Boston Crab which had Flair screaming in agony. Flair was able to fight out of it and get back into the match until Steamboat was able to hoist him up into a Double Chickenwing and that proved to be to much for Flair as he submitted and lost the second fall. That was monumental not only because it tied the match up, but because it was the first time Flair had ever submitted. Flair realizing that he was in bad shape, immediately went after Steamboat knee in the third fall and was soon able to cinch in the Figure-4. Steamboat was able to make the ropes, though, much to Flair's chagrin. Then, in one of my most markish moments ever, Steamboat sends Flair to the buckle but Flair does the Flair Flip and when he tried to run over to the other turnbuckle, Steamboat chops the shit out of him and knocks ‘Naitch down on the apron. I jumped out of seat and applauded the first time I saw that, great stuff. The fall continued with some great back and forth exchanges until Steamboat got Flair up in the Double Chickenwing again, but this time Steamboat's legs had sustained too much damage and they buckled underneath him. This made Flair land on top of Steamboat, put seeing that his shoulders were down, the referee counted the three count against Flair, despite the fact that his leg was under the bottom rope. Thus, Steamboat retained his championship, albeit under controversial terms. This classic match would then be followed up by…..

1) Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (WrestleWar '89)
Many people prefer their Clash VI match, but I still think that this match is the best pure wrestling match I've ever seen. This match also had a clean finish unlike their two previous encounters, which ended in controversy. This contest also started to signal a babyface turn for Flair as the crowd was behind Steamboat, but you heard some very audible cheers for The Nature Boy. This was a great back and forth contest where it seemed like either man at any given moment was going to pick up the win. The near falls left you breathless because they were so believable. The ending was great and an homage to Steamboat's match against Randy Savage as Steamboat scooped up Flair for a slam, but Flair was able to counter the slam into a rollup for the three count. The carnage that followed this match is equally as memorable as Terry Funk, who was a ringside judge, went on a vicious assault of Flair (including a piledriver on a table) for not granting him a title shot. All in all, this is one of the greatest matches ever wrestled for one of the greatest feuds ever and, in my opinion, it is easily the best match in the history of WCW.

The Sign-Off


I'm outta here peeps. But bring your stank ass back here next week when we look at The Top Matches of the 1990's. Be sure to bring your Nirvana CD, Beavis & Butthead shirts, and Walker, Texas Ranger references.


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No Hogan?

Posted By: RedCoat (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 08:24 AM

 
 
how do you not the Magnum TA/Tully Blanchard I Quit-Steel Cage match on here? that's not human

Posted By: bostononemanarmy (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 09:05 AM

 
 
you mean the great Hulk Hogan didn't make this list? Anyone else want to debate that Flair is the greatest of all time? ..NOT HOGAN!

Posted By: guest (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 09:11 AM

 
 
No Dynamite Kid/Tiger Mask matches? No Kobayashi/Misawa? Bummer.

Posted By: Mr. Mountain (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 09:37 AM

 
 
enough of your excuses... have u ever met the deadline?

Posted By: johnny jeter (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 09:50 AM

 
 
bring top 50 matches of 90's next week

Posted By: salman (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 09:53 AM

 
 
Dude, could you have any more WWE matches on this list?

Not that I don't agree. I was always a bigger fan of NWA/WCW than WWE back in the day.


Posted By: David (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 10:19 AM

 
 
Ricky Steamboat was the f'n man. This guy could be the high-flier, the ground-and-pounder, or the technical wizard at the flick of a switch. And he could sell a bump with the best of him.

For those who know of him but have not seen much of him, do yourselves a favor and YouTube his name. You will not be dissapointed.

Why is this man not in the hall of fame? Am I unreasonable in thinking that he has been overlooked?


Posted By: ProvidenceRI (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 10:34 AM

 
 
And while all this was going on Hogan was the biggest star in the world in the 80's. you know...the man that was selling out arena's everywhere and getting people paid.

Posted By: Joe Mastronardo (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 10:41 AM

 
 
bostononemanarmy check out number 8 kid

Posted By: steve (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:38 AM

 
 
I'm vague on the details, but didn't Steamboat just win the rights back to the name "Ricky 'The Dragon' Steamboat" from his ex-wife recently? Maybe they were waiting for this to happen before any "Legends" contract or HOF? I'm unsure either way.

What I'm not unsure of: Ricky Steamboat was awesome. You know what's up, Julian.


Posted By: Marlborough (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:40 AM

 
 
Savage/Hogan from WrestleMania V has to be on this list.

Posted By: O'Dog (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:45 AM

 
 
DAMMIT MAN!

Think outside the firggin box for a ONE SECOND!

How about Portland?! How about Stampede!?
How about Mid South!?
How about Florida, Georgia?! St. Louis, Japan, Mexico,

Is the wrestling you know all from WWE 24/7?!

This list is -BAD!

You are the Mike Adamle of 411mania.


Posted By: The Fuj (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:53 AM

 
 
I always like reading Williams' columns, but I can't find this list as the definite example of the best 80's matches.
Why? THE biggest match of that decade, maybe even ever (Andre/Hogan) is not even in it. Sorry, workrate fans, but people remember that match more than Flair/Steamboat.


Posted By: JA Toro (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 12:13 PM

 
 
We all have our favorites and it is really tough to argue that those matches weren't pretty good ones to pick. I am surprised to see the lack of WWF love though, as they did have some matches you had to at least consider for the list.

Hogan/Warrior
Backlund/Snuka or better yet, Snuka/Moroco at MSG for the IC title.

The lack of Stampede love is questionable as well as the lack of Orient love.

Just proves it is hard to do a top whatever list.


Posted By: thegunisgood (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 12:24 PM

 
 
As soon as I saw the title, I knew that about half the matches would be Ric Flair matches.

Posted By: Bob (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 12:28 PM

 
 
Christ people because Hogan moved a lot of money doesn't mean he was involved in lot's of great matches. Obviously the list is comprised of matches that were technically sound and/or brutal, not 10 minute punch/kick fests and then a leg drop.

Posted By: Dan (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 12:29 PM

 
 
The Fuj, nicely put.

Posted By: pdh (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 12:39 PM

 
 
Nice list!

Posted By: Guest#2599 (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 01:05 PM

 
 
Only two of your top twenty matches are from WWF? I can understand leaving out Japan, Stampede, etc because maybe you didn't see them (I didn't). But this is really lopsided.

Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 02:37 PM

 
 
Dude, to the people who are bitching about Hogan/Warrior not being on the list.

That took place in 1990. This is an all 80s list.


Posted By: Joel (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 02:58 PM

 
 
Yeah pretty disappointed at the sight of no Tiger Mask-Dynamite Kid matches, probably the second best set of matches ever, behind Flair-Steamboat and seeing the WrestleWar match as number one makes me happy.

Posted By: Guest#3573 (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 03:05 PM

 
 
Joel...

I forgot about that...

Thanks for the UW/Hogan clarification. It all runs together sometimes.


Posted By: thegunisgood (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 04:55 PM

 
 
Steamboat in top 4??

Interesting


Posted By: Escosia08 (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 06:18 PM

 
 
This writer only does his lists based on his WWE DVD collection. Otherwise, he would not have the slightest clue about wrestling. Don't believe me? Check out his other lists and then look at WWE DVD match listings. You heard it here first.

Posted By: Read this for the truth. (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 07:27 PM

 
 
Yeah, I'm with those who said Tiger Mask/Dynamite Kid should be on here. The '82 is in the top 5, and I'm saying this as a total Steamboat mark. Otherwise I thought the list was great.

Oh, and fuck Hulk Hogan. This is a list of the top matches of the 80s. It's not a list of the biggest draws, the most underhanded political plays, or the creepiest daughter molesters.


Posted By: MP (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 07:35 PM

 
 
No Dynamite Kid/Tiger Mask matches? The list void; awful top 20. Very laughable.

Posted By: Bernie (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 08:32 PM

 
 
For those of you who don't like this list because there's no Japan, have you ever seen Julian Williams write alot about Japan? No.

Plus, I always thought that Flair/Luger from Starrcade '88 was much, much better than their match at the Great American Bash.


Posted By: Matt Peddycord (Registered)  on June 03, 2008 at 09:32 PM

 
 
This is the i want to make love to Ric Flair list. What constitutes the 'best' match. Technical or matches people enjoy?

Posted By: FuckFlair (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 09:51 PM

 
 
i think you got the wrong luger flair match the one you listed ended in one of the worst endings possible when the sports commisioner said it had to stop due to exessive bleeding on a pussy ass blade job i think you mean the starrcade match

Posted By: lloyd mongul (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:02 PM

 
 
It's called a vacation for a reason.

Posted By: peter (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:08 PM

 
 
Since there seems to be some griping about the lack of WWE/F matches on the list, I racked my brain to come up with some that could have made the cut. Mind all you cynics, I haven't seen every match ever - so YMMV.

Bret Hart v. Steamboat (1986)
The Dream Team v. The British Bulldogs (WM II)
Tag Team Survivor Series (both '87 and '88 versions)
Women's Survivor Series Match ('87)
Bad News Brown v. Bret Hart (WrestleFest 88)
The Glamor Girls v. The Jumping Bomb Angels (2/3 falls, Royal Rumble 88)
The Brainbusters v. The Hart
Foundation (SummerSlam 89)
The Brainbusters v. Strike Force (WM V)
Hulk Hogan v. Randy Savage (WM V)

I consider all of these better than that broadway between Flair/Sting at Clash I.

What about Steamboat/Luger at GAB '89?


Posted By: Ted (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:12 PM

 
 
Two Rockers matches in the top 20 of the 80's. They were good but not sure they should have two spots in the top 20. I think it is much more difficult to do an 80's list as many of the top matches were not on PPV are are difficult to find. There really is no definitive list. The 90's should be easier with all the PPV's, Nitro's, RAW's etc..

Posted By: Willie D (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:25 PM

 
 
Good list...I am glad that you gave the Dragon his due.

I kinda think you should have put one Hogan match in the top 20. Realize his only move was the legdrop, but he did bring wrestling to new popular heights...maybe Hogan/Andre for its historical significance.


Posted By: nbmoney (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:32 PM

 
 
There's a Bret/Tiger Mask match from '81 that I have on a comp tape, and while Bret is still relatively green, you can see the greatness that was to come from him. I'd rate the match at about ****1/4, personally, which would put it above some of the matches on this list.

And the 30 May 1982 Dynamite/Sayama match is the best in their series, I think. It's one of the 5 greatest matches I've ever seen, up there with Flair/Steamboat from Wrestlewar and the 1 hour draw between Misawa & Kawada.


Posted By: Mr. Mountain (Guest)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:35 PM

 
 
That's a pretty Flair-heavy list, even if we are talking about *his* decade. I think it was missing one of the excellent British Bulldogs/Hart Foundation matches, as well as Jake Roberts/Rick Rude and a few others, but hey, it's a matter of opinion, and since I'm not a socially retarded internet troll, I understand that. Good work.

Posted By: KanyonKreist (Registered)  on June 03, 2008 at 11:44 PM

 
 
Hard to debate your Flair/Steamboat pick as one of the best matches of all-time.

Funk/Flair I Quit -- You know actually I don't find this match to be that great. I loved the angle that set it up and it's a good match and a good resolution to their feud, but I like the Great American Bash match better.

I would put Savage/Flair in my top 10 as well, both as a great brawl/wrestling match and as a feud.


Posted By: nwa88 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 12:19 AM

 
 
While all good matches I don\'t think Flair needs to be on there 11 times, and 7 of thoes with 3 other people. there were some good performers, and some good matches. spread the wealth a little. dynomite kid, tiger mask, paul orndorf, and many others deferve some recognition

Posted By: Jay (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 01:07 AM

 
 
Geex people calm down it's obviously this guys opinion. Do your own freakin list if you don't like it.

All i can say is WOOOOOOOO!


Posted By: OLYMPIC HERO (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 02:51 AM

 
 
Hey.. asshole! What about that match I had in the backyard with my cousin over the plastic/foam WWF replica belt I owned? I mean Christ.. it ended with a front face lock for fucks sake!

This list smells like balls!


Posted By: Guest#8527 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 03:39 AM

 
 
My favorite of the 80's was Ted Dibaise Vs. One Man Gang for the UWF title. It was the first time I saw a face cheat. Ted pulled out his spike glove he used to carry and punch gang in the stomach then ended up pinning him and won the championship and the crowd went nuts. The next week they reversed it. My first "Dusty" finish.

Posted By: Electrichotdog (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 05:10 AM

 
 
I hated most hogan matches but i remember he had a really good match but cannot think if it was 89 or 90 (as that would determine whether here or not)

Was a cage match against Big boosman and thought it was a very good match, which is unusual for a hogan match which i normally don't enjoy


Posted By: BigDave (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 06:44 AM

 
 
nice ric flair list....NOTE: he's not that great.

Posted By: huh!??!?! (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 06:55 AM

 
 
Gee, did you even watch that PPV? The Women's match was at least a full * better than the Cena and Hardy crap, both of which were ** at BEST.

"I see a lot of people hating on this match by saying it resembled a hardcore RAW match from the late 90's and to that I say: Is that a bad thing? " - FYI, YES.


Posted By: mark (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 07:38 AM

 
 
A little Flair heavy.

Posted By: The Man (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 09:34 AM

 
 
not enought Ric Flair on the list.......
:)


Posted By: Liron (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 10:11 AM

 
 
"This writer only does his lists based on his WWE DVD collection. Otherwise, he
would not have the slightest clue about wrestling. Don't believe me? Check
out his other lists and then look at WWE DVD match listings. You heard it here
first."

Slaughter/Patterson
Flair/Von Erich
Flair/Luger
Midnights/Fantastics
Flair/Funk (GAB '89)
Flair/Windham (Crockett Cup)
Flair/Sting (Clash)
Wargames 1

NONE of these matches are included on any current WWE DVD.


Dear Read This For The Truth:

Shut yo ass up!

Love,
Julian


Posted By: Julian Williams (Registered)  on June 04, 2008 at 10:13 AM

 
 
Why do some people get so riled up at these lists? To disagree is fine, but to act like this is the worst piece of literature is kinda ridiculous and sad.

Part of the reason the list doesn't include "Stampede" and "Japan" and all promotions is probably because Julian is young compared to the other writers and wasn't even old enough to watch some matches when they first appeared.

That said, Hogan/Savage from WM V is an underrated gem - especially the announcing by Gorilla and Jesse.


Posted By: Patrick (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 10:31 AM

 
 
Luger/Flair GAB? Seriously? The Starrcade '88 is absolutely worlds better. I don't know how anyone could prefer the GAB over that.

Posted By: Guest#0126 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 10:37 AM

 
 
I find it very interesting how some are saying the writer only pulls matches from his WWE/F DVD collection yet most of them are NWA/WCW matches. Only 3 matches actually took place in the WWE/F. So I am not seeing the WWE/F favoritism there.

Posted By: Guest#2551 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 11:12 AM

 
 
I think what most of these idiots meant to say Julian, is that you didn't have ENOUGH WWF matches on the list.

I, for one, appreciate the fact that you showed some love to the old school WCCW and NWA matches. Note to the fanboys: just because Hulk Hogan brought in a lot of money does not translate into great matches. Hype alone doesn't do it, great storytelling and great in-ring action has a lot to do with it too.

My only complaint is that I wish there were more slots, like a top 50.


Posted By: Orlando (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 12:02 PM

 
 
I agree that the Savage/Hogan match fomr Wrestlemania V should be on the list. I like it that the list are matches that people have actually sat down and watched. Some of those territory matches that people suggest have not been seen and there is good reason for that. If it was classic and memorable then it would be regareded as such.

Posted By: DynamicDude (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 12:15 PM

 
 
No surprise that Ric Flair OR Ricky Steamboat are present in 13 of the 20 matches with Flair VS Steamboat being 3 of the top 5 matches of the decade..... and people say Flair isn't the greatest ever

Posted By: Guest#8148 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 12:39 PM

 
 
The Fuj put it best and it needs to be said again.

You are the Mike Adamle of 411mania.


Posted By: Guest#3500 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 12:59 PM

 
 
No Hart Foundation, but The Rockers??!! You must be out of your mind. I guess people like Andre The Giant, Hulk Hogan(as much as I dislike him),Bret Hart did not wrestle in the 80's. Only one Road Warriors match? They are considered by many the greatest tag team of all time(i disagree). This list is completely biased. Ric Flair is possibly the greatest of all time, but you cannot give him the whole list out of all the matches in the 80's. I don't care what people say about money - Andre vs Hogan at Wrestlemania III is the greatest match in history and for it not to make the list is a shame. That match defined wrestling and more people remember it today, than ANY match on your list. I think I will skip you 90's list, as it will probably be as lopsided as this one - so, so sad. How many HBK matches do you think will be on his next list? BAH!

Posted By: AndreFan (Registered)  on June 04, 2008 at 01:16 PM

 
 
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NOT INCLUDING HOGAN!!!

Posted By: Guest#7390 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 01:22 PM

 
 
"Some of those territory matches that people suggest have not been seen and there is good reason for that."

That is seriously the stupidest thing I've ever read here. Just because YOU are unfamiliar with Stampede and Japan doesn't mean everyone else is.


Posted By: MP (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 01:27 PM

 
 
bostononemanarmy - "I Quit" is #8, jackass.

Posted By: Bull o' da Woods ! (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 01:28 PM

 
 
A few things...

The Luger / Flair Bash 88 match was good, but the ending kills it. I'd go with their Starrcade 88 match

The Slaughter / Iron Sheik Boot Camp Match is another one that could be on the list

I would also say the full Bash 88 match (not the clipped one on the Turner Home Video release)between The MX and Fantastics was much better than the Clash 1 match

Bockwinkle vs. Hennig - The New Year's eve one hour draw from Jan 31, 1986 is another one I think you missed on the list


Posted By: Brian (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 02:00 PM

 
 
Here is an idea for you jackasses that just have to slam everyone's articles if they dont meet your precious opinions, get a life.

If you feel there were some missed, make your point and move on. Stop all this stupid name calling, just shows how stupid you are.

This is pro-wrestling, not life, stop taking it so seriously


Posted By: Brian (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 02:02 PM

 
 
Sgt. Slaughter vs. Pat Patterson, not that good at all.

The Rockers vs. The Brainbusters, ehh! so so.

I can think of several NWA matches that were far more deserving of these off the top of my head, but if we are gonna stick with WWE and give them some love too, what about:

Savage vs Ted Dibiase 1988?

What about Brainbusters vs Hart Foundation Summerslam 89?


Posted By: Sim Joe (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 02:15 PM

 
 
First you call people "jackasses", then you tell everyone "Stop all this
stupid name calling, just shows how stupid you are." You are sure one confused dude Brain. And realy man, like you said, "this is pro-wrestling, not life, stop taking it so seriously". Don't get so mad about it. It's like you dont even listen to your own advice. But here:

Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Genichiro Tenryu


Posted By: Guest#8127 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 03:11 PM

 
 
Hey, Guest#8127, go get your shinebox.

Posted By: Brian (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 03:28 PM

 
 
Also, Guest#8127, my name is Brian, not Brain, get it right.

Also, I do get your comment about me calling them jackasses, so I was in the wrong there.

But go get your shinebox anyway!


Posted By: Brian (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 03:30 PM

 
 
your an idiot. First you don't have a single Hogan match on there Hogan-Andre the Giant (WM3) or Hogan-Warrior (WM6) are two of the greatest matches. THEN, you don't have Flair-Sting from the GAB when Sting won the title. COME ON!

Posted By: mike (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 03:51 PM

 
 
Mike, Hogan/Warrior was 1990.

Also, I think Dino Bravo/Don Muraco at Mania IV HAS to be on the list.

No, i'm not serious.


Posted By: Patrick (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 04:43 PM

 
 
Mike, sting/flair from the g.a.b, happen in 1990, so it couldn't be on the list. Also for the people bitching about the lack of hogan matches on the list, the reason most likey for it is because HOGAN SUCKS

Posted By: money macc (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 04:56 PM

 
 
Hogan / Andre?

Are you joking? That match sucks 10 kinds of ass!


Posted By: Guest#2864 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 05:01 PM

 
 
I usually don't comment on these boards, but I have to say you internet fans get so riled up so easily....It's a personal opinion list. If you fuckers that dont' have lives don't like it so be it...It's not life ending if a match from the stampede or the mid-south does not make the list. The list is decent becuase the average wrestling fans have actually seen these matches so people can relate....A writer's opinion his own.It's god damn america...not the Soviet Union

Posted By: Guest#3934 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 05:44 PM

 
 
With all due respect, get the **** off flair's dick.

Posted By: Marcus33 (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 07:36 PM

 
 
Re: Hogan / Andre?

Are you joking? That match sucks 10 kinds of ass!

Posted By: Guest#2864 (Guest) on June 04, 2008 at 05:01 PM

What a sad comment. I suggest that you brush up on your wrestling history. You may not personally like the match - but you cannot deny its importance and significance to this day!

Andre/Hogan from Wrestlemania III, is the greatest match of all time for multiple reasons. Granted, it was certainly not a technical masterpiece, but

1) Most well known match in wrestling history

2)2 of the greatest superstars in the history of professional wrestling(as much as I cannot stand Hulk Hogan)

3) 93,000 + attended that Wrestlemania on the strength of that match! ("The Irresistable Force meets The Immovable Object")

4) Made Hulk Hogan a star and put wrestling(especially WWF)on the map at that time

5)The clip of Hogan slamming Andre has been seen by more wrestling and non-wrestling fans than any other clip.

6) 20 + years later, that match still holds up and is as well known today as it ever was!
How many people actually remember on a daily basis most of the matches on this list?
Finally, how many people have actually watched that match? I was 8 years old and cried when Hogan beat Andre(I knew that was only b/c Andre let him). For those who have recently come to wrestling or lifetime fans, I suggest subscribing to WWE 24/7 online(they have the greatest collection of easily accessible matches available) - Catch up on the history and matches that made professional wrestling what it is today - this match was the beginning of that.


Posted By: AndreFan (Registered)  on June 04, 2008 at 08:14 PM

 
 
As you like Steamboat/Flair so much, I am surprised you left off their All Japan encounter in '82 (or '83). Its shorter and faster paced than their '89 series, not as superlative in scope - but it still kicks major ass.

Posted By: Ted (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 08:30 PM

 
 
Another great Steamboat/Flair match you might want to check out is the "Night of the Champions" match from 5/29/84. It's really good.

In an attempt not to get too listmania, here's some non WWF/NWA matches I think are worthy o' mention:

All-Japan:
Ric Flair Vs. Jumbo Tsuruta (81, 82, 83 Trilogy)
Kerry Von Erich Vs. Jumbo Tsuruta (2/3 Falls - 5/22/84)
umbo Tsuruta & Genichiro Tenryu Vs. Riki Choshu & Yoshiaki Yatsu (All Japan - 1/28/86)
Genichiro Tenryu & Toshiaki Kawada Vs. Stan Hansen & Terry Gordy (12/16/88
Jumbo Tsuruta Vs. Genchiro Tenyru (88, 89)

All-Japan Women:
Jaguar Yokota Vs. La Galactica feud (81-85)
Devil Masami Vs. Chigusa Nagayo (AJW - 8/22/85)
Dump Matsumoto Vs. Chigusa Nagayo (AJW - Hair Vs. Hair - 8/28/85)
Chigusa Nagayo Vs. Lioness Asuka (2/26/87)

New Japan:
The Dynamite Kid Vs. Tiger Mask (The whole series is recommended since they build on each other, 4/21/83 is the best)
Antonio Inoki Vs. Tatsumi Fujinami (85, 88)
New Japan Vs. UWF 10-man Elimination Tag (3/26/86)
Akira Maede Vs. Tatsumi Fujinami (6/12/86)

Bob Backlund Vs. Ken Patera (WWF - Texas Deathmatch - 5/19/80)
Ricky Morton & Eddie Gilbert Vs. Masa Fuchi & Atsushi Onita (Memphis - Tupelo Concession Stand Brawl - 2/14/81)
Ric Flair Vs. Kerry Von Erich (World Class 2/3 Falls - 8/15/82)
Ric Flair Vs Bruiser Brody (St. Louis - 2/3 Falls - 2/11/83)
Sgt. Slaughter Vs. The Iron Sheik (WWF Bootcamp - 6/16/84
Ted DiBiase Vs. Jim Duggan (Mid-South Coal miners glove on a pole, Tuxedo, Loser-leaves town, Cage match - 3/22/85) - Russo's fav match?
Ric Flair Vs. Kerry Von Erich (Hawaii - 10/12/85)
Jerry Lawler Vs. Bill Dundee (Memphis - No-DQ - Title/Loser-Leaves-Town Vs. Hair(s) - 12/30/85)
Ric Flair Vs. Barry Windham (Florida - 2/14/86)
El Hijo Del Santo Vs. Negro Casas (EMLL Mask Vs. Hair - 7/18/87)
Kuniaki Kobayashi Vs. Tiger Mask I or II series

I'm not dissin your list by the way, just adding some of my fav's too, and wondering what other people think of them.


Posted By: Floyd (Registered)  on June 04, 2008 at 09:22 PM

 
 
No Brett
No HBK
No Hogan Vs Shiek
NO WWE/WWF
This is a joke right? When will the real top 25 be posted.
What about the Snuka match for the IC belt when he flew off the cage.
No Warrior.
If I wanted to see a list of Flairs greates Id buy the video. For gods sake rethink this list or watch some of Vinces company to see some matches before you put a list together.


Posted By: untamedspirit (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 10:58 PM

 
 
I almost forgot:
Jerry Lawler winning the title after 14yrs, by beating Curt Henning.


Posted By: untamedspirit (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 11:04 PM

 
 
When is somebody going to man up and put together a top 20 matches of the 80's(90,of all time,whatever) available on youtube. Because I have seen a lot of the matches on your list but I can not find and have never seen the ta blanchard, same goes for the Midnight/Fantastics. Or the Rockers/Somers&Rose. I grew up a WWF fan and didnt really see many of these matches since I was primarily a WWF fan.

Posted By: Hitman (Guest)  on June 04, 2008 at 11:19 PM

 
 
I think the Patterson/Slaughter match is on the 2004 Hall of Fame DVD, which was a seperate DVD from Wrestlemania 20.

As far as the Hogan/Flair greatest of all time debate, I don't think many people will argue with the fact that Flair is the greatest wrestler. However, on your roster of wrestlers, if you had to choose, would you rather have the greatest wrestler of all time that would put 10,000 butts in the seats in the 80's or have the greatest wrestling attraction that would put 20,000 people in the seats? Both Hogan and Flair are true legends albeit for completely different reasons.


Posted By: HaystackCalhoon (Guest)  on June 05, 2008 at 12:04 AM

 
 
Get the Original Tiger Mask tape and then make your list.

Posted By: Guest#9089 (Guest)  on June 05, 2008 at 10:52 AM

 


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