Wacky Wrestling Theory 6.26.08: ROH
Posted by Jake Chambers on 06.26.2008
The Top Ten Wacky Reasons why ROH is the best pro-wrestling organization in the world.
Ring of Honor is definitely one of the premier pro-wrestling companies in North America and a darling among Internet critics. Well, this darling Internet critic is no exception! ROH deserves to be on a high pedestal for all of the obvious reasons stated in the past; great matches, logical storylines, character progression, sense of tradition, and intelligent booking. In my opinion there are some other, wackier grounds why ROH should be your favorite pro-wrestling organization, and so here I present the top ten wacky reasons ROH is the best wrestling in the world.
#10 - Jimmy Jacobs' Age of the Fall hair style
The Age of the Fall was supposed to bring terror, revolution and anarchy to the ranks of ROH, and arguably they have at times, but I've taken the most joy in my bewilderment in the frizzled, magenta tinged, birds nest comically strewn across the head of ultra-serious movement leader Jimmy Jacobs. This hairstyle is the antithesis of authoritative or intense, and yet for some reason I cannot avert my eyes.
This Napoleonic mess menaces as much as a Water Buffalo hat, or even Hiroshi Tanahashi! The fact that I find it funny to look at is what I love about it, because his commitment to acting emo-cool while simultaneously tough and violent with such a wacky hairstyle is awesomely great. Who knows, maybe he'll do for visual goth-rock hairstyles in the pro-wrestling world what Bret Hart did for pink singlets.
#9 – Takeshi Morishima
Speaking of unintentional cuteness, how about that lovable tough-guy Morishima? As much as ROH tried to rile him up and make him a super badass, I couldn't help but see a soft and goofy good guy inside all of that cowboy hat-ed, feather boa wrapped bravado. Maybe it's his girly haircut, his particularly thin eyes that make him look like he's always smiling or his stuffed animal pudgy physique, but I find him strangely cute.
From my understanding, Morishima has long been saddled with a pin-up cutesy personality in his native Japan, and he's only recently been able to slightly shake it off, and it has made me wonder if his violent reign as ROH champion last year was kind of like if Pro-Wrestling NOAH took Bobby Dempsey and made him into an ass kicking world title threat. Here's to hoping NOAH feels like they need to pay ROH back one day.
#8 - The Larry Sweeny Show
Speaking of Bobby Dempsey, he was the co-star of this 'controversial' segment at the Sixth Anniversary show earlier this year. From my perspective, I thought this skit that featured mega-heel manager Larry Sweeney knocking out a woman and then jokingly simulating her rape was consistent with ROH's ability at presenting interesting and coherent characters, and in a comedic fashion as savvy as anything on the Simpson's, South Park or the Family Guy.
When reports first came out about this skit, the Internet was full of the old-school reactionary hyperbole that had me warmly remembering the fury at which people once attacked Eric Bischoff on the newsgroups of old. ROH, for some reason, actually responded to this irrational criticism and almost removed the segment from the history books completely. When the scene was thankfully re-added to the DVD, some fans then criticized the editing job ROH did, removing too much of the actual incident for fair evaluation, but when I finally viewed it I found it to be seamless, shocking and entertaining, as should be the goal of the ROH video production team.
The brilliance of all involved made a cynical viewer like myself waver in my appreciation for the Larry Sweeney character because of the way he ‘crossed the line' by insinuating, and then ‘forcing,' his losery sidekick Bobby Dempsey to take sexual advantage of a knocked out Allison Danger. That kind of disgust was the exact effect a cartoonish molestation should have, yet it reserved just the right amount of irony to allow any non-demented, halfway intelligent fan watching to revel in the evilness of pro-wrestling's last true bad guy.
#7 - Prince Nana Nostalgia
Speaking of great managers, Prince Nana, leader of the once powerful Embassy in ROH may trump Larry Sweeny for sheer delusional grandeur and casually powerful humor. Whereas Sweeny feels like a master's thesis on managerial madness, Nana was as realistic and captivating as a Martin Lawrence drug years improv. Nothing could illustrate this better than his offensive and angering abuse of Jade Chung being regularly more believable and despicable than the comedic relationship between Sweeny and Bobby Dempsey.
Prince Nana was like a wacky version of Smallville's Lex Luthor with an impossible to place accent, and a claim to Ghana royalty you just wanted to believe. Nana was most brilliant in his support of the then obscure Jimmy Rave as his ‘crown jewel.' In the Ring of Honor landscape at the time of his acclimation, Jimmy Rave was hardly an impact player, yet Nana talked him up like he was the second coming of Loki. There were few managers I've seen in recent memory who were more amusing when being foiled or celebrating a small success, and those parties Prince Nana threw in my imagination are often missed when I see the ending credits of ROH DVDs these days.
#6 - DVD Covers
Speaking of ROH DVDs, I've often thought that the ROH production values were quite good, and highly underrated considering that they are an independent company. There is only one thing that jars me about the visual presentation of a company that presents such a sophisticated wrestling product, and that is how the DVD cover art work is regularly excruciatingly bad or cheesy. Now, I'm not claiming to be an expert graphic designer any more than I'm claiming to be able to work a wrestling match, but the layouts, fonts, and photo choices are usually so wacky that I almost think that it must be intentional. In fact, I think that these are such one of a kind, inept representations of such a high quality program, that I've actually started to like the covers now.
This may sound like a negative, and perhaps at first it was, but I've since grown to appreciate and even anticipate the DVD covers, almost at the level of camp. Nothing shouts campy goodness better than a cropped photo of Jack Evans in his do-rag and undershirt as seen in this example of a recent DVD cover that may illustrate the unique quality that I now cozy up to for comfort:
#5 - BJ Whitmer
Speaking of transformations, I'm a big fan of the gimmick hopping BJ Whitmer. Although currently on hiatus from ROH, Whitmer was the kind of guy who reinvented himself so many times, he could never bore you, regardless of what the critics had to say. In my opinion, his often-sited reputation for being boring is like trying to call the Brothers Karamazov a boring book.
My Top Five BJ Whitmer ROH Personas:
5 - Prophecy BJ
4 - Short haired, Hangm3n lackey
3 - Anti-Prophecy BJ
2 - Silently frustrated member of Lacey's Angels
1 - ROH Defender
On top of everything else, the dude has made a reputation for being a bad ass, ass kicker in spite of his first name being the sometimes popular acronym for an incredibly un-painful, oral sex act.
# 4 - Lacey
Speaking of blow jo… I mean, former members of Lacey's Angels, what ROH fan hasn't fallen in love with the wickedly insane Lacey? In the right lighting (as in, anything not produced by WSX) Lacey can look particularly gorgeous, but her looks are not the wacky reason for being on this list; it's her bitchiness.
As much credit as Jimmy Jacobs gets for his character turn during his ‘Lacey love' storyline drama, it was the magic of Lacey's unrelenting bitchiness that truly highlighted the deft skill ROH has at creating the environment for compelling storytelling. Lacey did not bend easily to Jacobs' wooing; in fact she treated Jimmy like such a piece of shit for so long that it actually became charming. It was as if ROH wanted you to feel how someone can literally fall in love with a realistic and flawed character, rather than pull the trigger on her ‘sweetness' turn too early. I respected and desired the ‘bitch' Lacey as Jimmy kept her on the pedestal no matter how much she berated him, and it takes a great performance from the woman behind ‘Lacey' to achieve this kind of transcendent character development in a female valet role, especially in such short serialized segments on a show with no regular television and a rare focus on non-ring related drama.
#3 - Third Anniversary Celebration
Speaking of hot chicks, my favorite ROH Anniversary is the trio of cards that made up the Third Anniversary Celebration. Recognizing the anniversary of their first show, is one of the big events on the ROH calendar, and here is what I think are the top five anniversaries in ROH history:
5 – 2nd Anniversary Show
4 – 6th Anniversary Show
3 – Fifth Year Festival
2 – 4th Anniversary Show
1 – Third Anniversary Celebration
Of all the Anniversary events, this third year trio of celebratory cards has to go down as the wackiest best. The first show has the great and hilarious confrontation between Samoa Joe, Mick Foley and Cactus/Ebessan Jack. The second show has the debut of the ridiculous Air Devils name that the fans chose for the Matt Sydal and Fast Eddie tag team. The third night had Colt Cabana interview Bobby Heenan. All top wacky moments in ROH history.
The true stand out moment of the series for me (and in all wrestling ever!) was the ending of the cage match between Colt Cabana and Austin Aries on the first night. This ending did something that only ROH at times has been able accomplish, and that was surprise me with the outcome even though I knew the result before I watched the show. I didn't think it was possible for Aries to retain the title in the closing moments of the match and was gawk-jawed at his sprinting dive through the ropes and out the door in order to beat a cage climbing Cabana by a nano-second to the floor. That is still one of the most expertly timed and daring moments I've ever seen in pro-wrestling.
But there are also awesome chapters in some of ROH's greatest rivalries at the Third Anniversary Celebration, such as the highly touted first match between Spanky and James Gibson that displayed the shockingly underutilized potential of the recent (at the time) WWE releases. There were also matches between Aries/Joe, Punk/Rave, Nigel/Cabana, and two matches in the phenomenally underrated Bryan Danielson/Homicide feud. This Best of 5 series were interconnected, wild chapters in a coherent in-ring story, and the first show featured the Taped Fist match, and an extra wacky Falls Count Anywhere match at the third show. These were golden age ROH moments in their prime.
#2 - Greatest Modern Wrestling Rivalry – Danielson / McGuiness
Speaking of great American Dragon rivalries, he is also a part of what I consider to be the single greatest rivalry in modern pro-wrestling. Call me wacky, but I don't think anything in recent memory has been as thrilling and powerful as the match-ups between these two. Unlike TNA or WWE, when ROH realized that they had two wrestlers with fantastic, possibly historic chemistry, they didn't drive their matches into the ground on four straight shows. Each match they've had has made logical sense in the continuity of their feud, a rivalry that is more about respect and countering the other man in the ring than any long winded speeches or contrived storylines. And unlike the more famous Samoa Joe/CM Punk ROH rivalry, Danielson/McGuiness has a deeper competitive flair, a more violent mood, and a desperation to truly prove who is the best in the world. I think their rivalry is only comparable to Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart, Flair and Steamboat or Stone Cold and Kurt Angle, and the way everything eventually cumulates will measure just how high it will be considered on the list of all-time feuds and not just among those of the modern era; but I'm betting it'll be near the top.
#1 - This Means War - Main Event
Speaking of the top, here we are at number one, and I've chosen to spotlight what I consider to be the best complete ROH card. At least the best low profile show, but I'd put it up, match-for-match, against any of the top rated shows. Aside from the great under card, I've always marveled at the main event of this show, the ‘shoot stiff' ROH title match between Bryan Danielson and Roderick Strong. Although these two would go on to have many great matches, this one is their masterpiece because of its sheer brutality and ability to transcend the regular boundaries of pro-wrestling. To those who haven't seen it, get a hold of this show pronto because this match must be seen!
In the early stages of the match there seems to be some animosity created between the two that is subtly incorporated into the professional subtext of the match. The moves and strikes become increasingly realistic, and even the ‘apparent' match calling by Danielson seems to be a boastful and forceful challenge to Roderick to a real fight. It's like you are watching two people who hate each other at the office have to work together on a project, and as they are trying to undermine each other at the same time they want to make sure that the final product is still perfect and engaging.
The ending still makes me wonder what was going on when I re-watch it, as a ‘knocked-out' Danielson, regains his senses, seems pissed and quickly puts Strong in a move I've still never seen used in wrestling again, a very MMA-looking arm bar that makes Strong tap instantly, forgoing any of the dramatic ‘will he/won't he' submission acting usually used in a predicament like this. No matter how real this match really got between the two, it is the fascination I got when watching it that matters. To me, I saw the future, what wrestling could be, a hybrid of traditional pro-wrestling, real fighting, and genre self-awareness. This match was intelligent, thrilling and magical, the perfect embodiment of everything ROH.
Man... You're probably going to get a lot of shit for this column from ROH haters.
Posted By: soulpower (Guest) on June 25, 2008 at 11:22 PM
You're right about Morishima. He's like a teddy bear... A teddy bear that could all of us, but a teddy bear nonetheless.
Posted By: ... (Guest) on June 25, 2008 at 11:39 PM
he's going to get a lot of shit because this is the dumbest thing I've read on this site in a long time and I read Wrestler of the Week every time it comes out.
Yes, I took the time to read it and the majority of this list is self righteous and ridiculous. When one of the 10 best reasons to watch a wrestling show is somebody's "wacky haircut" the show probably isn't worth a damn.
Comparing Danielson/McGuiness to Michaels/Hart, Rock/Austin or any other legit wrestling rivalry is asanine. You know why? Because I hate to break it to ROH fans, but professional wrestling is entertainment and it's the circus, ladies and gentlemen. Pro wrestling is a circus that develops characters and shows that are meant to draw interest and make money. Csonka can suck a big one because Danielson/McGuinnes equals no buys at all. Michaels/Hart put together some of the most legendary moments in wrestling. The rivalry defined an era in the industry. Rock/Austin are two of the most identifiable figures in the history of the industry and both have drawn more fans to the show than anybody not named Terry Bollea. Their rivalry defined the Attitude Era. They also main evented what was probably the greatest PPV ever put on: WM 17.
The DVD covers? really? I hope you are wearing knee pads and Gabe Sapolsky isn't starting to chafe. Really, the DVD covers? They look like any generic DVD cover you can pick up from the bottom shelf in the sports section of a video/dvd sales store. It's a basic pro wrestling poster put on a dvd case. it's nothing special.
This column is nothing but a reason for indy smarks to bust out the Jergens and go to work in their mother's basement for 10 minutes until it's dinner time.
Posted By: Guest#7345 (Guest) on June 25, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Man I love the column, but your about to take it in the rear from the E fans. You did nothing wrong but love ROH for why it's great, but the thing is thats what makes them hate you the most. Their like right wing conservative christians. Your not allowed to live your live out of love or freedom, you have to conform to them. I predict nothing less then 33 Epic Fails for this column by people named ROHsucks and ROHisStillAround? Great list man, but what kinda of hell have you brought upon yourself?
Posted By: Kip (Guest) on June 25, 2008 at 11:54 PM
You are SO right about Prince Nana. DAMN, I miss him!
Posted By: Smooth (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 12:10 AM
"This column is nothing but a reason for indy smarks to bust out the
Jergens and go to work in their mother's basement for 10 minutes
until it's dinner time."
Nice to see that ROHbots are not the only humorless wrestling fans.
Posted By: J.D. Dunn (Registered) on June 26, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Good stuff. I agree with much of this. Danielson-McGuinness really is the best rivalry in North America for my $ since, well, Danielson-Strong.
Posted By: DocSarpolis (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Don't get your blood or urine testing if you believe any of this crap.You'll be in violation of the wellness policy.
Posted By: ROH SUCKS (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 12:51 AM
what's next?
Jimmy Rave > Undertaker
Rain > Trish
Cabana > HBK
Go on with ur silly assumptions. ROH is for morons and spotmonkeys
Posted By: Princess Nana (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 01:00 AM
I guess some peole can't enjoy something lighthearted. nice read
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 01:41 AM
I guess the point that's being made here is that
ROH > TNA
Posted By: WHAT (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 01:54 AM
Thanks this was great. I really enjoyed it.
Posted By: Not The Guy (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 05:27 AM
i'll never understand the superiority complex of ROH haters. you don't like the product? fine. but what makes u think we all care? you've obviously got far too much time on your hands if you're prepared to waste time telling people why they should hate ROH.
Posted By: Andy (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 05:52 AM
Actually the point being made is that WWE>soon to be WWE developmental ROH> TNA
Posted By: WHAT (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 06:19 AM
This Jimmy Jacobs looks really like a cartoon. I am really glad I dont watch ROH. no doubt ROH fans are idiots. I would rather go and watch some Walt Disney cartoons rather than live action cartoon.
By the way, I forgot something:-
EPIC FAIL
This coloumn=EPIC FAIL
Posted By: WHAT (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 06:24 AM
What is the name of this column, people? It's:
WACKY Wrestling Theory.
Do you people understand the meaning of that word? Jesus tap dancing Christ, people make me angry.
Good article dude. Good luck with the hate mail.
Posted By: Jimmy (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 06:52 AM
What is with the ROH hate?
Im a 20 year WWE fan and have been an ROH fan for 4 years.
Danielson & McGuiness have put on some of the best matches seen in recent years and have had great feuds yet because its not in WWE and getting worldwide exposure it means their rivalry isnt akin to HBK/Hart etc (as Guest#7345 stated).
As a fan of wrestling Danielson/McGuiness is just a good a rivalry as any wrestling rivalry including Flair/Steamboat because they go out there and always deliver something different.
(HBK & Bret didnt exactly wrestle each other much in their more interesting feuds 96-97.)
The column was a fun read and the Morishima mouse pic is funny, you should check out the Mohammed Yone one its even better!
Posted By: Chaosphere (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Hey, geniuses, Citizen Kane failed in theaters when it was first released, you know. You know what has made more money than it? Any Will Ferrell movie ever made.
Does this mean that Semi-Pro is better than Citizen Kane? I mean, there's no more prioritizing artistic merit over financial success in the film industry than there is in wrestling.
Mainstream acceptance does not equal quality. In fact, historically, the greatest works have been met with smaller audiences.
Which draws a bigger crowd, Shakespeare or American Idol? Who wins votes, the politician who advocates intelligent change or the fearmonger who caters to the religious?
Stop acting like WWE's larger audience makes it superior to ROH when odds are you're ashamed to tell your friends you're a wrestling fan anyway.
Posted By: ROH (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 08:09 AM
WTF?!
Takeshi Morishima is #9 and BJ Whitmer is 5?!?!?!
Posted By: A-T (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 08:27 AM
"ROH is for morons and spotmonkeys"
Yeah because I enjoy million dollar giveaways, little midgets playing practical jokes, 5 knuckle shuffles and Vince McMahon dying only to come back to life and 1 year later almost dying again!!!!
That is real wrestling, only a moron wouldn't enjoy that!!!!!!
Posted By: Kevin (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 08:45 AM
Jimmy Jacobs hair is so queer (as is most things about him). You can pretty much look at any lame-o emo band and see turds with that gay hair style.
Posted By: matrix1004 (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 08:58 AM
If you substituted the letters 'ROH' with 'TNA' or 'WWE' and then listed those as reasons why it was "good" people would come out of the woodwork to ridicule you. I can't wait until ROH gets a TV deal. One so I can actually watch it, and two so all of its fans can turn on it and talk about how much it "sucks".
Posted By: JTX (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 08:58 AM
You'd think more people would read the title of the article when you click it wouldn't you? "WACKY Wrestling Theory" I reccommend you underline it or highlight it or something in future articles so certain idiots take note.
Posted By: Ben (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 09:02 AM
There was an average of three bolded words per sentence in this thing.
Lay off the CTRL B dude!
Posted By: Mr. Bold (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 09:16 AM
WWE sucks, TNA sucks, ROH sucks,Noah Sucks, NJPW, AJPW SUCKS, PWG sucks, Chikara sucks, CZW sucks, Dragon gate sucks, DDT sucks, But wrestling rules. According to all smarks every promotion sucks.
Posted By: DP (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 09:18 AM
I like ROH, but you forgot what would be my #1-- f'n MARK & JAY BRISCO.
Posted By: M:-X (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 09:43 AM
Guest #7345 came in with the top up on his mind. Don't want to get it wet.
In all seriousness, this column is what it is. Good silly fun.
And princess nana...what you say is true. We all think Jimmy Rave is better than The Undertaker. (If you don't smell the sarcasm, you really are dumb)
And if you think that Bryan Danielson, Austin Aries, and Jimmy Jacobs aren't good wrestlers just cause they haven't made it to "The Big Leagues" yet, just remember that WWE does employ Snitsky, Khali, and Koslov.
Posted By: the dude (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 09:44 AM
"Go on with ur silly assumptions. ROH is for morons and spotmonkeys"
-- Yeah, and WWE is for CHILDREN. Also, it's not an "assumption" if you back it up with a coherent argument. What'd downright ironic in its INcohesion is taking somebody who someone else praised as simply "underrated" and comparing them unfavorably to world-famous multiple-time world champions. Yeah, "underrated"; another one you may need to look up. Get an education, twat.
... That was a fun way to kill a minute....
Posted By: KanyonKreist (Registered) on June 26, 2008 at 09:51 AM
Sarcasm is a lost art
Posted By: Jamal (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 10:14 AM
did Michael Hayes call Mark Henry a spot monkey?
Posted By: Jake Fury (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 10:21 AM
I miss the toilet papering of Jimmy Rave... It's a shame they didn't bring it to TNA...
Posted By: Travis (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 10:23 AM
why waste the time even reading this? just jump to the comments so i can bait roh marks. and since they have even more meaningless live then i do, they fall for it everytime.
Posted By: guy (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Anti-ROH fans are the most unintentional posters on the internet. What a bunch of rubes.
Posted By: Guest#1385 (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Good Article!!!
Posted By: Diablopepe (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Guest#7345-You just skimmed past the thing and looked at the titles for the reasons didn't you?
Posted By: Blanky (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 11:36 AM
So, I like ROH...is that hard to intake. I'm not a ROHbot or any stupid shit like that, i'm just tired of having my damn psyche being ruined every week by stupid shit. Me being a fan of ROH is me being a fan of professional WRESTLING.
If you all want to bitch about it, it's fine by me...have fun with your crazy booking and stupid shit.
Posted By: Kevin F. (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Hi, my name is Guest#7345 and I take wrestling way to seriously
Posted By: Dom (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 11:51 AM
For the ROHaters... ROH taps into a niche market. If you don't like it... well, they don't care. You may not like it, but some people do. And the number of "those people" keeps growing.
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM
"what's next?
Jimmy Rave > Undertaker
Rain > Trish
Cabana > HBK
Go on with ur silly assumptions. ROH is for morons and spotmonkeys"
Unless I totally missed something, when did he even mention any one person in ROH being better than any one person in WWE?
And Guest#7345, you're really tryin' hard to put down ROH, buddy. Nevermind the fact he said 10 WACKY reasons he likes ROH. That means he's not listing his 10 favorite things, 10 best things, 10 good things. There is a lot of reasons to like ROH. It's not for everybody, but nothing is.
And I agree with you 100% that wrestling is a circus and you need characters and pageantry and all of that. But ROH puts wrestling first. Nothing wrong with that. The gimmicks and over the top stuff is put 2nd on the priority list. Back when ROH first started, you're right, they were all wrestling, no gimmicks really. Not good ones, atleast. Now, though? They have gimmicks, angles and feuds of all kinds. You say wrestling is supposed to draw in fans and make money? You're, again, absolutely right. ROH does that. Obviously not on the level of WWE. But they don't have to. Their budget is smaller, so they can make less money than WWE, and still come out profitable. Did you also not know that Gabe won booker of the year like... 3 years running? They don't give that to someone who just books wrestlers, has them wrestle, and go home. He has plenty of angles and feuds and stories going on that are engaging and exciting. Of course there are some shitty angles and whatnot. But that's a given. Every promotion has some.
The fact that they've gone from running shows in one building in Philly, to having 2-4 shows a month, having nationally distributed DVDs, PPVs, and being able to bring in such a wide array of better known wrestlers like: Foley, Cornette, Steamboat, Matt Hardy, Kenta Kobashi, Mitsuharu Misawa and Bruno Sammartino just to name a few, shows they are in a pretty good position in the wrestling landscape.
Oh, and fuck you and your jokes about masturbating in my mom's basement. We don't even have a basement. And I don't even like using hand lotion. AND I live with BOTH my parents! So HA!
... Yeah I think the joke's on me with that one... damn.
Posted By: All Around Wrestling Fan (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Danielson used the move he beat Strong with on Aries at the last PPV.
Posted By: Guest#7074 (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Awww ROH, why must you always enrage the E marks? I bet they would be less pissed if I bust out the Jergens and go to work on their mothers in my basement! They would be fine with that, but say some good things about ROH and "it's on motherfuckers!"
You forgot those wacky masked wrestlers they have, Delirious and El Generico!
Posted By: kurruption (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Good Column. I had to bust out the Jergens for that one.
Oh, what's that ma? Allright, i'll be right up for dinner.
Posted By: the dude (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 01:25 PM
What is with WWE to the death fans? I've been a WWE fans for the most part of my life because it's the only wrestling promotion that you could watch on national tv. Then I got into NWA/WCW, then I jumped ship to ECW (The real one) and then when I thought all was lost, ROH came around and rocked my world. To me is the #1 WRESTLING ORGANIZATION IN THE UNITED STATES. Not the SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT ORGANIZATION RULED BY SUPER CENA.
Now that my friends you can feast on!
Posted By: Eiidriean (Guest) on June 26, 2008 at 05:57 PM
Of course ROH is the "best" promotion. Much in the same manner ECW was back in the early 90's. However, much like the old ECW, ROH is a "niche" promotion.
You will not compete with Vince, get it out of your heads. WWE and its product are FAR too ingrained into the recent pop culture to ever be completely removed, The Benoit Incident proved that. So WWE fans and ROH fans PLEASE cut the war crap. Your companies are competing over two WIDELY differing audiences, ones that the WWE will keep as long as people like H and Cena are around.
As for ROH, oh there is wrestling. Most DEFINITELY the hardest working locker room (TNA Knockouts exempt) in the business. Again though, a niche promotion. Focus more on the GREAT wrestling and less on gimmick matches and NATIONAL/SYNDICATED TV. A MUST!
Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest) on June 27, 2008 at 02:33 PM