The Way I C It 7.15.08: Vince McMahon’s Bias
Posted by Chris Lansdell on 07.15.2008
Is Vince’s bias just good business?
It has long been said that Vince McMahon is more than a little biased, in more than one way. He likes the big men. He likes the bodybuilders. It's even been alleged that he is not terribly fond on minorities. Perhaps just as worrying is the idea that he has a real issue pushing people he didn't create.
Oh sure, there have been a few who have held World titles. But when you break it down, since 1998 only two wrestlers who made their names outside the WWE have held the WWE Title (the one now on Smackdown), and you could argue that one was greatly improved by their WWE run. Here are the holders of the WWE Championship since 1998:
Shawn Michaels only once, amazingly; The Undertaker twice; Stone Cold Steve Austin 6 times; Kane once; The Rock 7 times; Mankind 3 times; Triple H 6 times; Vince McMahon once, unfortunately; Big Show twice; Kurt Angle 4 times; Chris Jericho once, criminally; Hulk Hogan once; Brock Lesnar 3 times; Eddie Guerrero once; JBL once; John Cena 3 times, although one was for over a year; Edge twice; Rob Van Dam once and Randy Orton twice.
Of that list only Big Show and RVD were main eventers outside WWF/E before they came over, and a case could be made that a main eventer in ECW means very little on the grand scheme of things. Big Show is interesting in that he shows that one of Vince's biases (towards big guys) overrules the other (towards talent he did not make). Chris Jericho was mad over before jumping ship, but never made it to more than the midcard. To a lesser extent, this applies to Eddie Guerrero. Although Steve Austin had a decent run in both WCW and ECW, very few people would argue that WWF made him. Same goes for Mankind. You may also note that there are two minorities on this list (one half-black half-Samoan and one Mexican). Compare this list with the list of holders of the World Championship since the Invasion, when it became a part of WWE television:
Booker T twice; Kurt Angle once; The Rock once; Chris Jericho once, at which point the belts were unified until September 2002; the belt was reinstated and awarded to Triple H, who held it 5 times; Shawn Michaels once; Goldberg once; Chris Benoit once; Randy Orton once; Batista three times; Kurt Angle once more; Rey Misterio once; King Booker/Booker T once more; Undertaker twice; Edge 3 times; The Great Khali once and now CM Punk.
So on this list, you have Booker, Goldberg and Chris Benoit who were all former WCW champions and were therefore not made by Vince. You have a black man, a half-black half-Samoan, a Mexican, an Indian and a Pinoy (5 minorities), as well as 4 people (HBK, Benoit, Rey and Punk) who would qualify as cruiserweights.
Looking at the two histories, it certainly appears that the World title is the one that has the champions who are considered a risk (Rey, Khali, Punk), the guys who were given a title to keep them happy (Goldberg, Booker) and the guys who took it from them. Part of the reason for this is that the championship seems cursed: it has been vacated due to injury several times, necessitating a quick fix. In my opinion, there's more to it.
The Way I See It, Vince McMahon still considers the WWE Championship to be "his title": the one he made, the one that made him successful. The World championship he sees as the WCW title still, and he is less concerned about who holds it. For him to "sully" the legacy of "his belt" by having someone hold it who he didn't build is unthinkable, so he shunts the Big Gold Belt from show to show, depending on whom he wants to be champion. He also seems to take it as an affront that "their" former champion is better than "his" champion, as if wrestling is real in his mind, and the competition still exists even after WCW is no more and he has won.
Even getting a push and a title shot is tough if Vince didn't make you. People like Vader, Scott Steiner (the second time around), Lex Luger, Curt Hennig and Ron Simmons (who as a minority who was a champion elsewhere was DOUBLE SCREWED) were one-and-done contenders for the WWF/E title. When you consider that this list includes a chiselled guy like Steiner and a mountain like Vader, it just goes to show that sometimes Vince doesn't even follow his own order of bias.
Need more? Go back even further. Aside from Pedro Morales, what other visible minority wrestlers have held the WWF title? Yokozuna falls under the "big man trumps minority" category. In a similar vein, how many stars from other promotions have held the WWF title? Well, let's see…there's Ric Flair and Sergeant Slaughter. Yes yes, I know there's also Sid, but once again he's a big man and that overrules being made elsewhere. People like Mean Mark Callous, the Dingo Warrior, Vinnie Vegas/Oz, Terra Ryzing and Sexton Hardcastle were made into household names by Vince McMahon and therefore they were allowed to hold his belt.
In contrast, look at companies like WCW and TNA. It often seems like all you have to do is leave WWE and you are guaranteed a title run elsewhere. A lot of people have blamed this on an inability to make stars, but the likes of Sting, Lex Luger, Goldberg, Vader, Sid, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Ron Killings suggest otherwise. Of course, WCW is out of business and TNA is struggling for ratings, so you might argue that Vince's bias is actually just good business.
Is it though? Sure, Vince is the undisputed King of Sports Entertainment right now. However, that's in spite of his bias, not because of it. The demise of WCW was more due to bad booking decisions and inconsistent management, as well as Stone Cold, The Rock and DX. TNA came into a market where WWE was already an established dominant force, and they have yet to do anything that will lure viewers from WWE while retaining their own. Vince's refusal to give title reigns to minorities or non-home-grown talent is not the reason. Neither is his propensity to give the title to large gentlemen with no other distinguishing characteristics.
I'm sure a psychologist somewhere could write a litany of reasons that Vince feels this way. Vince is nothing if not a genius marketing man. He knows that the people who buy his merchandise and put the money in his pockets are not the Internet fans, but rather the casual fan with children and a good job. These are the people who are impressed by the Great Khalis and Batistas of the world, and have a hard job buying the Jamie Nobles and Paul Londons as anything more than plucky underdogs with flashy moves. If TNA pre-Russo has taught us anything, it is that marketing to smarks and workrate fans will not get you out of the 1.nothings for ratings. They have tried to turn that around recently with more sports entertainment stuff, but a combination of bad ideas and too little, too late has so far stymied that effort. Ring of Honor know that they cannot be a national force with the product they have, but rather than try and change it to become one, they have settled for being profitable with what they have and strengthening it. McMahon, on the other hand, understands what people want to see. They want evil monster heels and persevering faces who triumph in the face of seemingly impossible odds. So that's what he gives us.
With that in mind, Vince has the power to change people's preferences, and is unique in his ability to do so. Perceptive viewers will notice a gradual shift in the on-air product over the last couple of months, moving away from mammoth, veteran champions to younger, more athletic ones. The more cynical among the IWC have pointed to the numerous steroid scandals as the reason for this, and they are very likely right to an extent. Part of it is also the simple fact that it's easier to find non-gargantuan talent. There just aren't that many 6'6" bodybuilders who WANT to wrestle. Another part, though, is that Vince is once again enjoying the control he has over the wrestling world, and is changing what people want to see by telling them what and who is good. This points to another trait of Vince McMahon – If I can mess with the smarks, all biases fly out of the window. Writers like me and my 411 colleagues have tried to predict Vince's booking based on his "established" preferences on more than one occasion, only to be left scratching our heads when he does the opposite.
In summary, it's easy to blame Vince's bias for the prevalence of big men with little to no talent in the WWE who seem to get push after push and also to hold down the smaller, more talented guys on the roster. In reality, the average wrestling fan has to take much of the blame. Like any smart businessman, Vince puts out the product that people want to see. It's only now, with ratings flagging and criticism pouring in, that he is starting to change the product. It can be seen as something of a vindication that the ratings have started to turn around since the change.
Posted By: Guest#5022 (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 03:09 PM
I have to agree
Pretty pointless.
Posted By: andrew (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Yeah, "Vince likes big guys" isn't exactly a revelation
Posted By: Robin (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 03:35 PM
You can't just throw out a list to try to make your point without looking at the overall situation.
You mention that it was unfortunate that Vince held the title - but do you remember the circumstances behind it (Triple H kicked his a** until Austin came out and basically handed the title to Vince)? In terms of the storyline, it made sense.
You're really going to say that Ron Simmons should have been a main eventer? Damn
Hell, Steiner was done in by the small fact that when he came back to the 'E, he absolutely sucked as a wrestler - Vince was just following the fans (for once).
Instead of yammering on about biases - you should have done two things;
1. Start looking at the two titles after WCW went under. It doesn't make sense to show pre-2001 title holders and say "look! my hypothesis is correct!" Two different companies - different circumstances.
2. Take a look at what show the title was on - you're more likely to see "his guys" as champ on Raw instead of the other shows, until Punk won it recently
Disappointing column, overall
Posted By: akakhawk (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 03:38 PM
Interesting premise. Not sure your argument strongly swayed me or anyone else to a conclusion though...
Posted By: Doug (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Well, you noted that HHH held the World title 5 times, so what does that mean for him? At the time H was awarded the World title, Lesnar was the WWE Champ on Smackdown. If the WWE title is "McMahon's belt", how come Vince didn't find a way to keep the WWE title (and its holder for that matter) on Raw (the alleged "A" show)?
The World title has only been cursed since Batista forfeited the belt due to injury back in 2006. But before Batista won the World title against H at WM 21 in 2005, the belt was mostly on H with the likes of HBK, Goldberg, Benoit and Orton sprinkled into the mix with short World title reigns. So, if the World belt was cursed back then, the curse was that H always retained (thanks mostly to help from Evolution and/or his sledgehammer) and that no other WWE Superstar was trusted to have a lengthy World title reign. Except, of course, for Batista (one of H's boys) who held onto the World belt for roughly 9 months.
Posted By: dude11767 (Registered) on July 15, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Something to note is that Pedro wasn't crowned WWF/E Champion when Vince Jr. was in charge, but rather when Sr. was still running things. The best he did under Jr. was a run with the Intercontinental Title.
I think it also comes down to the issue of the era you're living in and self-identity. Vince Sr. ran shows out of the Tristate when NYC was still actually a melting pot, compared to the gentrification of today. Having a heroic "white" champion wouldn't have done much for him when you had large Italian, Latino, and African-American populations in the city that he could easily cater to. So Vince Sr. would build an "ethnic minitory" hero in guys like Sammartino and Pedro to cater to his audiences. Backlund was weird because Vince Sr. would usually build his company around the ethnic hero. Typically, the whtie guy would've been a heel like Ivan Koloff or Superstar Graham.
Vince Jr. came along in the early '80s, just as Reaganism was starting to play off of xenophobic fears of the Russians. Vince Jr. was smart to build a heroic white champion that advocated mostly Judeo-Christian values (although Hogan rarely followed his own rules, frequently cheating when it suited the situation). That's where the country was at that point in time; to ignore it would've made Vince another Verne Gagne. So having Hogan squash evil foreigners made sense, even if it seems silly in hindsight. Because of this, I don't think Vince is necessarily racist, but he won't pus minority champions unless he feels pressured to do so. It's not because he's racist. It's because most of his audience is white, and are probably more comfortable with a handsome, clean cut John Cena than a Cryme Tyme, who play into racial stereotypes. The Rock and Eddie Guerreo are prime examples of Vince willing to go beyond racial boundaries when the situation arises. But his audience rarely demands that much from him, or he only caters to that one audience, so he doesn't attract an audience that would demand it. I think that's the issue of Vince's "supposed" racism.
Posted By: Rob S. (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 03:58 PM
(a) You should have included the World Heavyweight Championship along with the WWE Championship.
(b) Since WWE and WCW merged in 2001 and ECW folded shortly thereafter, post-1998 title histories are obviously going to skew in the direction of WWE.
(c) You drop the bit in about McMahon "possibly" practicing racial discrimination and never back it up. That's sloppy.
(d) Whether a performer was in the main event in another company is less relevant than whether a performer made a name for himself/herself in another company. This is particularly true of post-1996 WCW, where the main eventers were primarily former WWE stars.
Posted By: The Great Hibachi (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 04:34 PM
It's important when discussing minorities and big men that many Japanese and Mexican wrestlers quite simply are smaller than Americans. Their styles are better suited for agile wrestlers, a trait most big men do not possess. Maybe you should do a follow-up using the Cruiserweight/Light Heavyweight (I know, they're not the same) titles as your basis to see if WWE seemingly discriminates against minorities and/or foreign talent.
Not to mention, cutting a good promo is integral to being a world champ. Not many foreign talents can run their mouths in English well enough to be world champion material. Would you hire the best actor in Bollywood to do a film in America, even if he/she couldn't speak English well? That's not racism - that's business.
By the way, for anybody out there to say that Vince may have a bias against minorities because he gives titles to people who he thinks will draw well (mainly in America) is really, really flawed. Vince isn't a racist - he keeps Michael Hayes employed, and he's blacker than Mark Henry. You can ask him!
Posted By: Reichou (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 04:51 PM
Anyone who's under 6'6'' can KISS MY ASS! THATSRIGHT, THEY CAN KISS MY ASS!
Posted By: Angry Vince (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 05:13 PM
Somewhere between my computer and the server, half this column got lost. It should be up tomorrow.
Posted By: Chris Lansdell (Registered) on July 15, 2008 at 05:21 PM
Who is the Pinoy? I guess it must be Batista, although I never realized that previously.
As far as Vince seein the WWE title as being the 'more important' and the one he wants "his" guys to hold, I have to somewhat disagree. To me, ever since the introduction of the WHC in the WWE, the belt presented as the most important at any given point in time can basically be summed up by one question: "Which belt is HHH currently going after?" For better or worse (I say worse), they ALWAYS present whichever belt is on the show HHH is on as the most important belt...period, end of story. When the WHC was on RAW, that was the belt presented as the "big one" while Orton, HHH, and Batista held it. Now that HHH has won the WWE belt and is on Smackdown, they treat that one as the "big one". In the end, it seems to me to be all about stroking HHH's ego and positioning HHH as being, in a sense, more important than the belt itself. HHH is not going after whichever title because it is the most important...it is the most important title BECAUSE HHH is going after it. At least, that is how WWE always presents it, to me.
Posted By: somecoolname (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 05:24 PM
Wrestling has always traditionally had big champs.
Have you seen Bruno Sammartino, a perfect example of pre steroid bodybuilder, Big ol' SOB. 5'10 and 280 pounds. and he was Vince Sr's champ!
The most important belts are called The Heavyweight championships for a reason. They had to all look capable of ripping a normal human apart. Then Lucha Libre influence and the smarky love for smaller guys started and Suddenly vince was holding younger guys down.
Big Guys as the "HEAVY weight" is a historical rule. vince is 60 and took the company over from his dad whom he loved dearly and was probably very influenced by. Do you really expect him to not to be old school?
Just cause Vince was open minded enough to allow writers to create the Attitude Era, and occasionally bows to fan wishes for smaller champs doesn't mean he's going to go back on his old school beliefs.
Posted By: Davis (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 06:04 PM
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Posted By: dubdub (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 06:32 PM
Ahhh Chris. You're just mad Goku is going to be played by a white guy... Get over it already!
Posted By: dubdub (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 06:32 PM
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Posted By: whodoneit (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 06:47 PM
This article brings up some valid points. Yes, WWE has had many minority wrestlers, small-sized wrestlers, etc and yet many of the champs have been ppl like brock, the rock and triple hhh. Does Vince favour jocks? Maybe. Or it could be just the image he wants to have: the idea that a champion is big, strong, tough, but not necessarily the smartest or the most athletically capable in ring.
even the female wrestlers have all been pretty or to some extent "sexy".
so yes vince is bias in that sense, but you gotta look at the big picture. will you want a champ whose 5'7 weighs 180 pounds and looks like your avegae human or would you want a monster, an animal etc to be your hero(champ)?
to me vince is superficial. a lot of the times its all about the image and character not the best nor the fittest.
it doesnt mean that is a bad image to create, its just vince does what appeals the most,what attracts the most buyers.
Posted By: Phil (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 07:56 PM
Boring. Pointless.
So "Vince likes big men" and "Vince prefers stars that he made". I never heard that before about a million times.
And the "Vince hates minorities" is just plain dumb. Depending on your (not yours specifically, but any possible) criteria everybody can qualify as some sort of minority. And putting a belt on a guy just because he is a "minority" (no matter how you count that) would be, again, plain dumb.
And finally, not only is this pro wrestling, mostly an entertainment attraction, where people (at least most of them) WANT to watch bigger than life, monstrous and/or flamboyant bodies and personalities, but ultimately it is Vince's decision and only he knows what he bases it on.
And finally, what is your point supposed to be? That "Vince likes big men"? That Vince has some psychosis? Not that that last thing is anything new, a lot of people, who had contact with him, but even his own kids and HHH (basically his third kid, too) admit that he is seriously sick in the head.
Posted By: Sarcastro (Guest) on July 15, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Opening paragraph: "It's even been alleged that he is not terribly fond on minorities."
You just take that ball and run with it? Really?
Come on.
Posted By: Durrp (Guest) on July 16, 2008 at 01:43 PM
Isn't the title on Raw the most important? It is the flagship show and it has the most viewers, therefore it is the most important title. Raw > Smackdown
Posted By: DC (Guest) on July 16, 2008 at 03:41 PM
Geez, you're all too busy bashing him instead of focusing on what his point is. We all know Vince loves the big guys but he's trying to explain whether or not, it draws ratings or not, and i think he pretty much summed it all up. Good read Chris, keep it up.
Posted By: Smart Fan (Guest) on July 16, 2008 at 11:10 PM