The Wrestling Bard 7.26.08: Y2-Joker
Posted by Aaron Hubbard on 07.26.2008
With all the hype in the last week over the Dark Knight, I noticed a few surprising similarities between Heath Ledger’s Joker and Chris Jericho. I also thought about what Chris Jericho means when he says that wrestling fans don’t deserve to be saved.
Welcome to the Wrestling Bard. I know I said this week would be about Kayfabe. Unfortunately, my week has had very little to do with wrestling, and therefore, I'm suffering from writer's block. Because I really care about Kayfabe, I want to do it justice, so I'm not going to write about it in a week where I can't get my mind focused on it. Just a warning: this column isn't going to be an epic one, although perhaps it will shed some light on a few things.
Why do I have writer's block? Two reasons: First of all, I got my Transmetal Tarantulas in the mail this week, the start of my Transformers collection, and I've been having a fantastic time playing with him. I can't even count how many times I've transformed him in the last three days. Second, and this is more universal, is that this week has been Batman week. I've watched Batman Begins twice, and I saw the Dark Knight twice. This is certainly the best movie I've seen all year, beating Iron Man by a considerable margin. Hopefully everyone has seen it by now, but if you haven't, GO! Stop reading my column and go see the movie. It's a masterpiece! (And I don't mean Chris Masters either.)
I did manage to catch RAW this week, which was a fairly good show that I enjoyed a lot. The one segment that stuck out to me was Chris Jericho's promo. I've been a huge fan of his promo work forever, but he's taking a whole new direction with his serious promos instead of just his hilarious roasts of the rest of the WWE roster. If anybody is a little shaky over the details of that promo, let me remind you.
Now let me tell you why this promo is so great. The reason is this. Chris Jericho is right. We don't deserve to be saved. Forget the fact that we are dishonest people and just get down to what we are. We are wrestling fans, and worse yet, we are the type of wrestling fans that are obsessed with match quality. The fans of wrestling want to see faster pacing, stiffer strikes, cooler moves, sicker weapon shots, and scarier high spots. Our bloodlust inspires the men and women of pro wrestling to push themselves to a level that they shouldn't. Jericho is telling us the blatant truth, and naturally we don't want to hear it. The best villains are the ones that have a bit of truth to their ideas. They have to believe they are right, and if on some level they are, it is even better.
You know who this reminds me of? The Joker. In the Dark Knight, Joker tells us the blatant truth that no man is perfect, that we are all corruptible on some level, that we are all have weaknesses and the capacity for great evil. He isn't really as psychotic as he seems. Joker has found a cause, a good one at that, which he believes in so strongly that he is willing to die to prove it. Granted, this cause is anarchy and corruption, so it should be taken with a grain of salt. He embraced the evil that he is trying to make others aware of, so it's hard to see his cause as heroic. But he does make people aware that they have darkness in them. While Joker may want people to embrace that darkness, if we choose to reject it, than he has taught us a valuable lesson indeed. And this is exactly what Jericho is doing. It's hard to take a guy talking about how we are immoral seriously when he beat Shawn within an inch of his life (Kayfabe), but he has a good point.
As non-fans are so quick to tell us, professional wrestling is "fake". I have never allowed anyone to get away with saying this, and I doubt any of you would either. Because we know the sacrifices these men and women take to entertain us. We know about the physical, mental, and emotional toll this business takes on its practitioners. Sure, pro wrestling is scripted, but we will never let an ignorant person say that it's fake.
The fact that we would never allow non-fans to get away with that line of thinking makes it even sadder that we adhere to it ourselves. We justify our bloodlust by saying that these men and women know the risks they are taking, and they "know how to fall". But don't we know the sacrifices they make? Don't' we remember the physical, mental and emotional toll that wrestling takes on these men and women who live their lives to entertain us?
Think about Shawn Michaels. Chris Jericho was right that we inspired Shawn to wrestle the style he wrestles, and he has paid the price for our blind lust with multiple knee injuries and a back injury that nearly ended his career. And Shawn isn't even a daredevil by today's standards. Think about Rey Mysterio. The man has too many knee injuries to count, yet he continues to wrestle the insane luchador style, because that's what we expect of him. Think about Kurt Angle. The man is a walking pharmacy, a man who is held together by painkillers and a stubborn need to prove that he is the best wrestler in the world, both to himself and to us. Or think about Chris Benoit. We inspired him to wrestle a style that we loved. But this style led to multiple concussions, and eventually to the murder of two innocents. When you take the time to think about what being a wrestling fan does to the wrestlers, it becomes more and more obvious that we are a sick group of people. We demand far too much of the men and women who are just trying to entertain us. And we are never happy. Bret Hart has said that wrestling fans are like spoiled children: "they want something different". We always want something more exciting, and more exciting generally means more dangerous. And rarely do we take a second glance at what is going on in the grand scheme of things. Our selfishness combines with the selflessness of the wrestlers to make a beast that ruins the lives of those who serve it.
I'm not saying that being a wrestling fan is bad. If I believed that, I wouldn't be writing on this site. I just think we need to remember that what is good for us is often bad for the wrestlers. We need to learn to be content with what we have, and stop pushing wrestlers to extremes they shouldn't go. How many wrestlers have to die before we learn to appreciate what they do while they are still alive? Is it possible to appreciate the sacrifices of those who try to entertain us, whether they have the talent of Chris Benoit or the talent of Gene Snitsky? Can we stop putting so much focus on match quality, and just let the wrestlers wrestle to the best of their ability without trashing them because they aren't as good as someone else? I don't' really know.
It is okay for us to want wrestlers to perform to the best of their ability, but it is unfair of us to want them to go beyond their comfort zone night-in and night-out. Wrestlers should try to have the best match possible, but they should go about that in a safe manner. There's a reason that the Dynamite Kid is paralyzed and Hulk Hogan has a huge house. Hulk Hogan lengthened his career by treating wrestling as a business, and he was successful. He recognized that he wasn't the same kind of athlete that Ric Flair was, so he did what he was good at, and when the time came to deliver a good match, he delivered in spades. Ric Flair knew he could wrestle sixty minutes over and over again because he was in spectacular condition, but he didn't try to take huge bumps or work a pace that would exhaust him. Bret Hart knew he could work a fast pace, but was willing to slow it down for longer matches, and he was one of the safest workers ever. These three men are pinnacles of success and of how the business should be done.
But even these three who were smart about the way the wrestled haven't been immune to the ill effects of wrestling. Hogan is divorced and faced legal problems because he took steroids. Ric Flair was on the road all the time and partied hard, and now he has strained relationships with his family and has financial trouble, because he spent most of the money he made. And Bret Hart's career was cut short with an errant kick from Goldberg that gave him a severe concussion. And all three men have lost friends and in Bret's case family members because of wrestling. And these are the guys who were smart.
Does anyone know about Tito Santana? Tito was a guy who worked hard to have a good match, was willing to put others over, and was a successful mid-card guy. His humility, his work ethic, and his charisma have made Tito one of the most beloved figures in all of wrestling. But Tito also had the sense to save his money and invest for the future. He is happily retired, very comfortable, and has shown no ill effects from his career. And according to Shawn Michaels, Tito was able to maintain good relationships with his family, and said that all wrestlers wanted "the Tito thing". I hope in the future we see a lot more Tito Santana's and a lot fewer Dynamite Kids.
I want you to seriously question yourself, as a wrestling fan. Are you one who always complains about how the wrestlers aren't doing a "good enough job" entertaining you? If you are, change that belief, because it is cold and heartless, and wrestlers deserve more than that from their fans. Their careers are a labor of love, love for the business and love for the fans. If they are willing to put themselves at risk for our entertainment, than we should be willing to be content for their safety.
So Yeah...That's My Column...Yep...That's It.
Okay, so I know that was a bit lackluster, but I hope you enjoyed it. To make up for it...here's a treat. A match between Mitsuharu Misawa and Toshiaki Kawada that many consider to be the best ever.
All credit to MrWrestlingFan, who I am suscribed to, so I feel no guilt on posting that.
Match Analysis: Well that was pretty much awesome. I don't have a whole lot to say other than that was just brilliant. Probably the best singles match in AJPW history. I prefer the 1995 tag-team match with Kobashi and Taue thrown in, but this is a fantastic match. *****+
Well there you have it. Sorry about my lack of content, hopefully I'll be back in a wrestling mood next week.
Either way you spin it, Jericho and Joker are both extremely entertaining and absurdly charismatic. Good column.
Posted By: m8 (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 01:18 AM
"How many wrestlers have to die before we learn to appreciate what they do while they are still alive?"
Very true. I think the same applies elsewhere 2. A good example would actually be Heath Ledger. He has had his fair share of fans over the years & his performance in TDK was tremendous (TRULY Tremendous) but he's gotten more publicity through death than he did when he was alive. He deserves all the credit in the world for his role as the Joker but u have 2 admit that it wouldn't have been such a big deal 2 so many people if he was still alive. It would have been overlooked by some who because he's dead have actually overrated it. (That's hard 2 do because his performance really was GREAT! REALLY!) That's just the way it is though. Look at Benoit. He died & now u have people who attack u for not mentioning him in ur column. If he wasn't dead & hadn't murdered anyone would it be that big of a deal that he wasn't in ur dream card? No, It wouldn't have! (Even though if they had read they'd have known u didn't pick those matches anyway.) That's the way people r. They never appreciate what they have in front of them until it's gone. That's y people almost always abuse power once they obtain it & when they get money they're usually not responsible with it! What they have is never enough for them until it's gone & they realize what's it's true worth really was. It's sad.
Anyway, Great job. Short or not it was 1 of ur best pieces of work. Have a great week!
PEACE!
Posted By: THE BOMB! (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 02:00 AM
I never post on this site but I thought this was a good time. though there are a few good writers here, most are hit or miss. i think you have the best outlook on the biz than anyone on here! keep up the good work!
Posted By: the icon (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 02:23 AM
lackluster my ass. this column is one of the most poignant i've read in a while.
Posted By: truth (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 03:30 AM
great column i like how u span jericho's new character in with the newer psychotic joker, it fit well and was a intersting read., GUD WORK
Posted By: Guest#6449 (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 06:29 AM
Maybe I would see TDK if the goddamn movie wasnt sold out every time I tried going!
Posted By: Ted (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 09:41 AM
I must admit I float over most columns now as a point of catching the 411 comment on whatever is happen in wrestling this week, but i truely feel as though I will be thinking alot about what you have said here. Everyone has had a bitch and moan about how things aren't how they used to be and what they think is the WWE, or any other promotion to that end, shoud do in irder to make things more interesting, but the cost usually is greater to the wrestler.
Good stuff, I'll be looking out for more of your stuff man
Posted By: Bert (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 10:36 AM
I don't go for this japan shit. Legitametly brutalizing your opponent is not pro wrestling. leave this crap to meltzer to overrate.
Posted By: Joe Mastronardo (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 11:00 AM
I've been loving Jericho's promos since his heel turn.
He showed everyone Shawn's record of shady activities, and told us exactly why he's doing what he's doing. There's even been cases during this feud when Shawn jumped the gun on Jericho and paid the price for it.
I was watching Raw a few weeks ago when Michaels attacked Jericho and got dropped into the table. As soon as he came out I said when Shawn is on the ground here in a minute I hope he remembers that he started it.
I even sided with Barry Windham against Dustin Rhodes when they split in WCW.
And I liked how when Jesse Ventura was an announcer he would point out the dirty tactics that the faces would pull, and get away with because they were good guys.
Some of the best villains ever have been the ones that justify their actions. What's worse than hating someone and knowing they're right?
Posted By: Tyg (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Great column. Lots of wrestlers (most notably Mick Foley) have stated that the fans have come to expect entirely too much of the in-ring performers. I believe it was about 6 years ago that Jericho himself wrote an angry blog post following a ppv match that received a cold reception from the net crowd.
Normally I hate to nitpick, but your point with Tito Santana didn't quite hit a home run with me. The guy can't be THAT happily retired if he was here in Nova Scotia last summer wrestling in high school gyms. Either he REALLY misses wrestling or he needs the cash.
Posted By: Jon Cortez (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Great article. You put the business in perfect perspective.
Posted By: Guest#7415 (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Wrestlers are fans too (well, 98% of them) so they do spots that they would like to see themselves if they were in the crowd. They want to have the best match on the card, they want to be the person most remembered by the fans at the end of the night, and thus wrestling has become this dangerous sports-entertainment.
Posted By: Guest (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 11:34 AM
"Well there you have it. Sorry about my lack of content, hopefully I'll be back in a wrestling mood next week."
Don't write stuff like that. Be proud of your work and don't make excuses for any deficiencies you think it might have. And if you're not up to writing, don't do that either. But writing a whole column and then saying it sucks at the end isn't very respectful of your readers' time.
Posted By: DG (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Good point holmes. People are never happy, they always want more. I can't believe they still come up with new things after all these years. Then again, nothing's wrong with more storytelling & promos. The Rock will always outsell Rey Misterio. Makes me wonder if Y2J wrote that himself or not.
"I'm not telling you anything you don't already know"
Posted By: fishstix 68 (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Absolutley tremendous!
I couldn't agree more. I've been a life long fan & I've always appreciated (even when I was a kid) what these great men & women do to entertain us, never asked for anything more then for them to perform to the best of their abilities.
Everybody says the internet ruined wrestling. I don't think so.
It's given us better knowlege & appreciation for what they do. Great column!
Posted By: Fighting Spirit (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Thumbs up!
Posted By: xchris82 (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 12:30 PM
great article.
as i get older, and more of my childhood idols die off. i do think about the long term effects of wrestling.
i cant look at a kurt angle match without saying a silent prayer for the dude.
and we truly need to appreciate EVERYONE (including khali) for the hard work they put in to entertain us. for example, mike awesome was a pariah for the way he left ecw. yet the accolades didnt come until after his death.
Posted By: jd (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 01:17 PM
Fantastic Column! I couldn't of agreed more. i just wish i would of seen the movie before i read this column. I'm looking forward to your kayfabe article!
Posted By: Jordan (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 01:37 PM
Well written column. I consider myself to be a fan who doesn't have bloodlust, but there is a way for our favorite or non favorite wrestlers to put on a great show w/o putting themselves in harm's way, I say it just depends on the performer. Joker and Jericho are both great villains, and they both get much respect from me, real or fake. Jericho gets TOTAL respect b/c he is a great performer,has a ton of charisma and another ton to spare. And yes, people need to stop saying wrestling is fake b/c it's real, but scripted. Another thing, I do feel it's sad that some performers don't get their props or the popularity they deserve until they die, i.e. Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrerro, Heath Ledger, hell even Brian Pillman. They do all these things we regular people can't and when they leave us, INSTANT POPULARITY? That's not fair to any of these people at all. Four families have suffered great losses, and wrestling fans could be to blame. For all we know, their constant attempts to please us could have worn them down or made them unstable, mental and physical. And we have the nerve to attack others for not mentioning them in the columns? Sometimes I wonder why wretsling is still around, the way us fans want so much out of these performers. I guess in the end, be it wrestling or acting or anything else dealing w/ performing, they love to perform for us and we fans are just what we say we are...fans. Good write up Aaron.
Posted By: Brian (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 01:49 PM
This was a great column. We should appreciate the sacrifices that wrestlers make. I admire all of them, regardless of their shortcomings. However...
To be able to enjoy the pay-off to many storylines, we are forced to pay a considerable amount of money. The experience of a wrestling fan today is far different than the experience 20 years ago. Those fans weren't pressured to fork out $40 per month to see a world title match.
Other sports are free to watch. If we watch a poorly contested game, we haven't lost anything. However, if a pay-per-view comes off as awful, we will still owe McMahon $40.
The consequence of that is simple: if wrestling promotions are going to expect so much out of us, we are going to expect something special from them.
If wrestling lessened their pay-per-views, or did away with them completely, then the culture might change. But until then, paying fans have a right to be frustrated if they feel they are being ripped off by substandard performances.
That's what happens when money is thrown in to the mix.
Posted By: Kris (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Comparing the pathetic Jericho to Ledger is a (Really bad) joke
Posted By: Guest#6599 (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 02:19 PM
This is you on a "writer's block?" That was very well written. I think that you don't give yourself enough credit. I certainly see the parallel between Jericho's character recently and the Joker. Keep up the good work.
Posted By: Andrew (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 02:55 PM
I think someone should steal Two-Face's coin gimmick. If it lands on the good side, the wrestler wrestles like a face. But if it's on the bad side, he wrestles like a heel and it's beatdown city.
Posted By: JLAJRC (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 04:00 PM
just another article with more of the same stuff thats been said before. well written but ehhhh the common wrestling fan in the "kayfabe" sense just see's it as big bad chris saying mean things...and i never saw the flash in these ajpw matches, i mean they are talented individuals but really its just hit a move rest hit a move rest and repeat for 30 minutes then break out the countless bomb and suplex attempts. these guys wrestle the same formatted match time and time again. i guess thats why the true hardcore wrestling fans are drooling over it. but that's just what i think.
flame away!
Posted By: best guest (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 04:32 PM
"The best villains are the ones that have a bit of truth to their ideas."
Posted By: John Smith (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 07:26 PM
" It's hard to take a guy talking about how we are immoral seriously when he beat Shawn within an inch of his life (Kayfabe), but he has a good point."
In defense of Jericho's new line about morality/immorality, during the match in question, when the ref kept throwing jericho off of michaels, Chris would tell the ref, "end the match then." Basically saying that Shawns blood was on the ref's and Shawn's hands for continuing the match, and we the fans' hands for willing HBK on to continue the match beyond the point when it should have ended.
Posted By: -Z- (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 08:03 PM
Excellent article. I'm busy reading Ring of Hell so this article goes hand in hand with it.
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on July 26, 2008 at 09:33 PM
Good column. I defend wrestling whenever I am "discovered" as a wrestling fan.
My defense:
1. You know you are going get more then "one round" of a fight.
2. Even though the outcomes are predetermined, you can never predict the quality.
3. You are going to get you money's worth almost everytime you watch wrestling as apposed to MMA or boxing which may end early.
Posted By: Tonyface (Guest) on July 27, 2008 at 03:17 AM
Great column!!! My first time reading you, but I will be back.
Posted By: Sheila (Guest) on July 27, 2008 at 07:42 AM
Im sorry to tell you but your completely wrong. They're plenty of wrestling fans who do appreciate what wrestlers do week in out. You actually want fans to respect the Unique style of gene snitsky? The fans know a terrible preformer they paid their money and they expect to see a good show having Gene S. Job to a face is really not what they want you to see. part two of my complaint of this POS Is you call people like hulk hogan, Kurt angle, and brett heart good wrestlers? They aren't even good people! They are all cry babies. Hogan Screwed Vince millions of times with is "no job" clause (see Hogan vs Micheals, Hogan vs The Rock) and now hes in court he got what was comming to him. Kurt Angle Was givin time off by Vince what did he do Sign to TNA I hope He dies. Brett Heart is the worst of the worst. He cant stop "Oh Shawn screwed me" Thats all he has to say on his past (See youtube Brett Screwed Brett) that the legacy he holds. You cant blame the fans for wanting more. WWE Has Watered down what it used to be They have eliminated all chokeholds, banned most high flying moves (630 splash,Shooting star) The fans miss ECW When Heyman ran it not this new garbage they even changed the belt! Fans Want More Technical Based Wrestling And high flying and not these marks like John Cena or Batista. I mean we pay their paychecks so yes they should perform to good standerds. DANCE CLOWNS DANCE!
BTW Y2J IS THE BEST RING PREFORMER EVER!
Sincerly,
SL
Posted By: MercyProject_SL (Guest) on July 27, 2008 at 01:03 PM
To say the "Shooting Star" has been "banned", Evan Bourne seems to be using it an awful lot
Posted By: Guest#3601 (Guest) on July 27, 2008 at 02:25 PM
I think Mercy Project SL just proved your point.
Good stuff, Hub.
Posted By: Chopper (Guest) on July 27, 2008 at 02:43 PM
Enjoyable column! I think Y2J has always been a very fascinating superstar. Face or heel; though I think he's a more complex and enjoyable heel, not unlike the Joker.
Posted By: Sam (Guest) on July 27, 2008 at 05:27 PM
Comparing the pathetic Ledger to Jericho is a (Really bad) joke
Posted By: Guest#4843 (Guest) on July 27, 2008 at 09:35 PM
Along with many others, I have to give you some HUGE props for this column. Great stuff here man...damn good column. You should have an RSS for this column so I can add it.
Posted By: Dirk (Registered) on July 27, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Hey MercyProphet...Hogan did job to The Rock...know your facts first dude.
Posted By: LOL (Guest) on July 28, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Knock off the self righteous act. Guess what yeah fans are gonna have higher expectations as well they should and it ain't just in the wrasslin' business. I'm sure you're the same kind of person who throws a shit fit at your local pizza parlor because they don't serve your pie in 30 minutes or less.
People always want something better. That's what separates us from the animals. Pigs are perfectly content to roll around in their own urine and feces. We humans on the other hand evolved and demand more.
I'm damn sure you'd appreciate all the latest gadgets in the new Cadillacs if you ever had to hand crank a model T on a cold winter morning.
And I'm certain for all your self righteous pontificating you'd cringe if you had to watch those hour long static displays that passed for pro-wrestling in the earlier part of the 20th century.
Posted By: The Adamantium Elbow (Guest) on July 28, 2008 at 02:27 PM
My main problem with wrestling at the moment isn't the in-ring quality, it's the quality of the angles that have me complaining.
But on your comment about appreciating the "less talented" wrestlers, I kinda have a problem with. Saying that someone like Snitsky should receive the same amount of respect as someone who is genuinely good at the craft is a little misleading.
Using the actor crossover, it's like saying that John Hannah (who, imo, is a very bad actor) should receive the same amount of acclaim for the Mummy as Heath did for TDK, because he was trying just as hard, even though he's nowhere near as talented.
Talent = respect
no talent, and someone who doesn't even attempt to improve = no respect
Although, great column! Keep up the good work!
Posted By: Guest#3273 (Guest) on July 29, 2008 at 08:06 AM
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