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Tim's Take 09.23.08: World Wrestling Entertainment of Honor
Posted by Tim Livingston on 09.23.2008



A look at the current WWE roster sees something that one would not exactly think about right away, but upon further review, look closer. Those are former Ring of Honor wrestlers doing big things in the big ring. For a company that prided itself on bringing wrestlers up from their own minor leagues, it's surprising to see that while the quantity is small, the quality of the wrestlers that have been put in a position to do well has been pretty exceptional. A look at how they've fared:

CM Punk: Obviously the most successful of the former ROH wrestlers, Punk has been pushed hard basically from the get go, and has now been World Heavyweight Champion on the top show on the WWE Brand. His following has grown over his tenure and in just over a year, the emergence of Punk as a top-tier star has been a big boost to RAW considering the lack of John Cena's presence. Right now, he's about to be involved in a big storyline involving Randy Orton and his crew of second-generation degenerates. As successful as he has been, you'd think that he's the guy who could make a run at the top of the country for a long time to come.

THE Brian Kendrick: Given the draft, Kendrick slipped under the cracks and was not thought of as someone who would make an impact. Three months later, he's in the main event at Unforgiven. His rise as the cocky youngster with the muscle of BIG ZEKE backing him has turned him into one of the freshest acts of the year, and with it, he's put himself in position for a run not unlike the man who trained him, Shawn Michaels. Although undersized, Kendrick makes up for it big-time in personality and performance. He knows what he's doing in the ring, and I look for him to be a big part of SmackDown!'s future.

Evan Bourne: This guy has been a huge breath of fresh air into somewhat of a stale ECW environment. When he's on the screen, people know something exciting is going to happen. He knows how to thrill a crowd, and that type of work ethic is going to help him out in the long run. While Kendrick has done it with some cool moves and charisma, Bourne does it with grace and amazing originality. His emergence on RAW lately as a guy who looks up to Rey Mysterio and tries to help him with Kane is only going to help him get noticed, as if the Shooting Star Press wasn't enough. What's funny about him is that while he was this big-time spot monkey and such in his ROH days, Bourne grew a bit of a personality as he was leaving ROH, and while we haven't seen too much of it since his WWE run, I think he has a little bit in him that we haven't seen yet. Hopefully, this storyline will bring it out.

Meanwhile, there had been a ton of wrestlers on the roster who had been a part of Ring of Honor at one point or another, but the three I mentioned above really made their name in ROH before getting to the big leagues. On the cusp are guys like Scotty Goldman, the former Colt Cabana, and someone like Matt Striker, who has made his case as one of the best talkers the company has, and is now the primary color commentator on ECW. I like that ROH guys are getting a chance to show their stuff on a national stage like they are, and it shows that while the territories might be dead, that the big company is still looking to pull from all over the place to have the best talent going. ROH has a few people now that might be worth a look, including Nigel McGuinness and Bryan Danielson, with Danielson getting plenty of looks. While it's thought to be out of the realm for a Ring of Honor guy to be successful in a place like WWE because of size or lack of personality, the talent like the three I mentioned show that they do have a place in the grand scheme of things. Florida Championship Wrestling might be the WWE hotbed for their young talent, but considering who's near the top of the card, perhaps a closer look at other resources might be in order to help them in their search to have the best talent in the country, if not the world.


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not to mention guys like noble and hardy that stepped up their game while away from wwe, keeping themselves fresh with the guys in roh. i still with noble would go back and give us some more 5 star matches with roderick strong. and also, mvp aka antonio banks! another big name in the current wwe, that cut his teeth in roh/fip!

Posted By: hellboysetsfire (Guest)  on September 23, 2008 at 11:13 AM

 
 
I'm not entirely sure, but I THINK that Matt Striker and Matt Stryker from ROH are different people, if that's what you're talking about. But don't quote me on that.

Posted By: Ron (Guest)  on September 23, 2008 at 02:13 PM

 
 
Agree with your point but a correction: Matt Striker only appeared with ROH twice and wasn't a regular. That would the other Matt Stryker, with a "y".

Posted By: Ari Berenstein (Registered)  on September 23, 2008 at 03:04 PM

 
 
Evan Bourne is the ONLY former ROHer who's getting to "show his stuff" in WWE. Punk's better on the mic than half the guys in the E, but they keep him off it much as they can. Gibson, Kendrick & London have only been allowed to scratch the surface of what they're capable of doing in the ring. And Striker was never a ROHer to start with.

Fat chance somebody who loves real wrestling the way Bryan Danielson does will ever go there even if they wanted him!


Posted By: nomark (Guest)  on September 23, 2008 at 06:01 PM

 
 
Whos Bryan Danielson? some nobody that's only seen by 500 people a wek I bet..

Posted By: who? (Guest)  on September 23, 2008 at 07:37 PM

 
 
Interesting column.

I was about to comment how pleasantly suprised I was that this wasn't full of ignorant anti-RoH shite. Such a pity some idiot had to ruin it.


Posted By: scott (Guest)  on September 23, 2008 at 09:00 PM

 
 
"Whos Bryan Danielson? some nobody that's only seen by 500 people a wek I bet.. "

You mean the Bryan Danielson that got a dark match and beat Lance Cade while he was in the midst of getting airtime as Jericho's 2nd? Yeah, never heard of him either. What a loser. Dude totally only wrestles in front of 500 guys a week. Except when ROH runs double shots and gets 600+ both nights. I'm sure Bryan Danielson would never get looked at by WWE, even if Shawn Michaels and William Regal were pushing bigtime for him to get a contract.

He's simply a nobody, you're right, buddy.


Posted By: All Around Wrestling Fan (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 12:42 AM

 
 
Wow... really...you had to post that about The Dragon? Shame sir. Watch some real wrestling...and then compare it to that crap-tastic "entertainment"...pure wrestling versus pure crap...take your pick.

Posted By: James (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 01:01 AM

 
 
ROH guys who would be good candidates for a raid from the E:
(1) Kevin Steen - Decent size, absolutely absurd amounts of personality, fairly athletic, solid as a heel or a face.
(2) Essentially all of Sweet & Sour Inc. - Larry Sweeney (this generation's Bobby Heenan), Chris Hero, Davey Richards, Tank Toland (yes, I'm aware he was there already), Sara Del Ray. Phenomenally entertaining and talented stable regardless of which role Hero plays (comedy/serious).


Posted By: Kyle (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 01:58 AM

 
 
wwe should help out roh financially like they did with ecw in the 90's

Posted By: Dan (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 04:00 AM

 
 
to guy who bashed the american dragon:
you're-gonna-get-your-fucking-head-kicked-in!!! clap-clap-clapclapclap


Posted By: Guest#7864 (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 04:47 AM

 
 
I'd really be surprised if Danielson never made it to WWE. If someone like Bret Hart can became a huge star there, I don't see why he couldn't.

Posted By: AnonScalia (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 08:45 AM

 
 
I pick pure crap. It's more fun than whatever the fuck "real" wrestling is.

Posted By: Chopper (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 09:28 AM

 
 
Posted By: who? (Guest) on September 23, 2008 at 07:37 PM

Whos Bryan Danielson? some nobody that's only seen by 500 people a wek I bet..
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Actually he and his GHC Jr. Heavyweight belt from Japan were seen by 1,950 people just this past weekend. And he'll be on nationwide ppv this weekend.

Best part about it is that those 1,950 people had a genuine appreciation for his work and accomplishments. The 3,000 ADD television drones that might've shown up for a WWE house show
would've been bored silly.

Its called "job satisfaction."


Posted By: nomark (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 10:18 AM

 
 
I agree that those guys are really doing very well on the top of their respective brands, but at the same time I hope to see Colt given at least a more Santino like role on SD! as I don't ever see him even being a top mid card there in the fed, but he can do great things for them in terms of bringing guys up.

Posted By: spawnsyxx9 (Registered)  on September 24, 2008 at 02:04 PM

 
 
Okay Look, I've actually seen a few Bryan Danielson Matches, and he's good. But he's small, Finlay pale, not good on the Mic, and boring before and after the bell rings. There's no way he'd survive in sports entertainment, He's not a personality.

Nigel Could make it, he's got an attide, and even though he small by WWE Standards, he's a legit heavyweight, a tough badass and a nasty SOB.

Colt Cabana deserves more than jobbing, because he's hilarious.

But Danielson is just unable to be awesome post or pre match, he's just not going to make in WWE.


Posted By: Davis (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 02:37 PM

 
 
Personally I love Danielson, but it's perfectly fine with me if he never makes it to the WWE. He's already been signed once and is a known quantity. In the E, there is no way that he would get to showcase his talents enough to connect with the crowd (still it would be fun to see him in the insane Bob Backlund role, wouldn't it?). Dragon can stay where he is, it is probably for the best.

Posted By: CoryJohnson (Guest)  on September 24, 2008 at 03:44 PM

 
 
Nobody else thinks Eric Stevens would be a good fit? I'm also gonna throw out Brent Albright( yea yea Gunner Scott) as possible E candidates. Nigel I see as more of a TNA guy, I don't know why.

Posted By: colt_banana (Registered)  on September 24, 2008 at 05:00 PM

 
 
Wow... really...you had to post that about The Dragon? Shame sir. Watch some real wrestling...and then compare it to that crap-tastic "entertainment"...pure wrestling versus pure crap...take your pick.

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Guess what?? It is still the same fake shit. Try watching a real sport like boxing or MMA.


Posted By: Guest#5041 (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM

 
 
Its called "job satisfaction.

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Yea, cause everyone gets into wrestling for the "job satisfaction. They do it for the money like everyone who has a job.


Posted By: Guest#0678 (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 12:43 AM

 


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