The Wrestling Doctor 09.30.08: The Doctor Opens the Mail
Posted by W.S. Thomason on 09.30.2008
More reader suggestions, including the Royal Rumble, DVDs, and He-Who-Vince-Cannot-Name.
THE WRESTLING DOCTOR: THE PRESCRIPTION FOR WHAT AILS
THE SECOND OPINION Nick C wrote in to let me know that the D.C. Armory is indeed still standing, right next to RFK Stadium. So there you go, TNA another storied arena that would be the right size to tarp off and paper for a PPV. What more could you want out of an arena than the place that hosted the return of Robocop?
THIS WEEK'S PATIENT: YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
The call for cases to be reviewed continues this week, with a couple of more suggestions appearing below.
1. How bout for the Rumble make a new rule that tag teams can enter together, but still have the only one can win the title shot. This could set up an angle of former team mates fighting over the title shot until mania or something like that and really if I could make a big angle it would be the two big shows feuding with each other. They've teased it a bunch of times and i keep hoping they will do a full on feud of some kind.
gutterworx 1313
The Royal Rumble idea would be an interesting twist on a twenty-year old favorite, and may spark a little more interest in the tag team ranks (though splitting up teams may not be the best way to revitalize).
I have a fear that the WWE would handle this idea as it relates to the title shot by pairing up two big singles stars, like Batista and Cena, have them win a set of tag belts in December, and then spilt that pairing at the Rumble in preparation for a Wrestlemania main event that we would have gotten anyway. They have run the rival-singles-stars-as-partners angle so many times in the last decade that I do not see the Rumble element adding anything to such a feud.
However, splitting up a team during the Rumble possibly near the end, with one partner eliminating the other and following that story line into Wrestlemania would be compelling. You would need a solid and established tag team to make it work, though, of which the WWE is currently in short supply. Demolition battled each other at the 1989 Rumble in a high profile moment, and other partners have gone at it to a variety of degrees over the years. The Steiners fell out with WWF management in 1994 for refusing to battle it out in the Rumble (though they should have gotten the tag belts back beforehand and fought Bret & Owen Hart at the PPV instead of The Quebecers, but that's just me ) Carlito and Chris Masters in 2006 is the last pairing with a split tease during the Rumble that I can think of, but I very well could be wrong. Drop a comment if you know better.
I am not quite clear on the last part of your suggestion regarding Raw and Smackdown as it relates to the Royal Rumble tag team suggestion, but as a stand-alone multi-person war it certainly would make for an interesting Wrestlemania. The angle would carry long-term risk, as one brand would have to eventually suffer defeat and thus lose credibility, but it could be a storyline that the WWE could keep in mind if one of their shows ends up on the chopping block. For example, if the WWE had been unable to find a new home for Smackdown, they could have run such an angle over the last year seeing that they would have had time to plan long-term.
Good suggestions both last week and this. Thanks for writing in.
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The next patients are DVD related
3. What DVD's would you like to see come out in 2009?
rusty kuntz
My favorite topic! My 2009 WWE DVD release schedule would like this (in no particular order):
- The long delayed Starrcade compilation
- A Survivor Series anthology
- Owen Hart biography / match set
- Greatest Stars of the 1990s
- Greatest Tag Teams of the 1980s
- Great Villains (brief bio / match set of classic heels)
- Best of WCW Monday Nitro
- Best of Saturday Night's Main Event
- Best of the Clash of the Champions
- Best of In Your House
- History of the WWE Tag Team Titles
- Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat biography / match set
- Best of Raw, by year (93/94 combined set; 95/96 combined set; 97 and onward each get a set)
- Best of the Triple Threat Match (WWE/WCW/ECW)
- Dean Malenko match collection
And I hope you take your screen name from the former MLB player, and not some bizarre hobby.
4. What do you think of the matches on the new Eddie Guerrero DVD? How do you think that they should have handled the situation with Benoit on the set?
gilo copter crash
First, the easy part: the new Eddie collection is stacked like a brick house. It has eight WCW matches, including one from Nitro against Mysterio not previously available on either man's earlier sets, as well as some great Starrcade stuff. If you want a WCW fix, here it is. The set also has two ECW matches, and plenty of great WWE bouts. It will definitely find a place on my shelf.
Now the hard part: I understand why the WWE has chosen to expel Benoit from their past. What he did was heinous beyond words, but the cynic in me has to believe that Vince and company are erasing him from the WWE canon not because of the crime itself but because of the unprecedented levels of negative publicity and unwanted government attention the situation brought to the company. But I do understand the argument that by including Benoit in programming and releases, that they feel that they are somehow endorsing or at least not recognizing the seriousness of his crime.
The downside to banishing Benoit from memory is that other workers have their legacies undeservingly tarnished. It is impossible to tell the Eddie Guerrero story without mentioning Benoit. Many other workers, such as Dean Malenko and Chris Jericho, are in the same situation. What Benoit did to his family should rightly earn him eternal condemnation, but the WWE should not effectively censor the work of other talents like Guerrero just because they were close to the man. In most cases the WWE is right in leaving Benoit matches off of collections when it is reasonable such as the recent Steve Austin set but in situations like the Guerrero DVD an exception should occur. They should not advertise Benoit matches in any way they could even put a disclaimer before each match and donate a portion of such DVD profits to appropriate charities but they should not completely erase his matches when he was vital to someone else's story.
You can pick up Eddie vs. Benoit in the US Title tournament final from Vengeance in July 2003 and the great Los Guerreros vs. Angle/Benoit vs. Edge/Mysterio WWE Tag Team Title match from the 2002 Survivor Series on the Stealing Life, Cheating Death DVD. You can find the title through a variety of online outlets. It contains other great matches as well, and both the old and new sets will give you more than an excellent rendering of Eddie's career.
That is it for the week. I might run suggestions and responses in future columns, so keep them coming, but next week I'll probably pick up with a new topic.
It wasn't a big tease, but near the end of the 2007 Rumble, Edge was set to spear Randy Orton (while they were Rated-RKO at that moment), but backed off when Orton turned around. As far as I can remember, this was the last tease, this year there were only some doubleteam-tagmoves (Miz & Morrison, especially).
Posted By: D (Guest) on September 30, 2008 at 10:15 AM
I'm SO with you on a Steamboat DVD but I think an Owen one is out of the cards. Apparantly, his wife owns most of the footage of private life/wrestling stuff and naturally she wants nothing whatsoever to do with Vince. A sad thing as the guy really would make a nice DVD.
Posted By: Michael Weyer (Registered) on September 30, 2008 at 10:58 AM
That DVD list looks like a catalogue for the next 7 1/2 years.
If they released them ALL in 2009. they'd have practically nothing else to release in the next few years.
Prioritise man. That's where the interesting stuff comes from when you have to pick and choose what you want most.
The question didn't ask what DVDs you wanted to see released throughout the course of the rest of all time.
Posted By: Mr Quimby's Beard (Guest) on September 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM
You say they should put a disclaimer before Benoits matchs on another wrestlers DVD and maybe donate money to an appropriate charity all well and good but surely it would be easier and cheaper to just leave him off all together?
I agree that it hurts the DVDs of guys like Eddie and Jericho but simply by having one match of his on DVD will bring the WWE in for so much criticisim it just isnt worth it and probably never will be
Tis a shame because he brought the best iout of great wrestlers and made shitty ones bearable but he will always be remebered by the casual fan as the guy that killed his family.
Anyway im rambling and this Benoit thing is gonna go on and on forever!
Good column by the way
Posted By: IOV (Guest) on September 30, 2008 at 12:41 PM
No mention of wanting a Jericho set? For shame! They have the Smokey Mountain footage so Jericho's awesome blade job against the Heavenly Bodies could be featured...unfortunately, his DVD set will probably never happen since his career intertwined with Lord Voldemort's moreso than Eddie's, and that's a shame...they could almost do a whole DVD set of just Jericho/Voldemort matches. *sigh*
I'd love to see a Greatest Feuds series. HHH/Rock, Rock/Austin, Bret/Shawn, etc. Just do a short bio on the feuds then all matches, squeeze it into one, maybe 2 DVDs and they'll sell like crazy...plus they could FINALLY put the Rock/HHH Iron Man on DVD.
Posted By: Ramsey (Guest) on September 30, 2008 at 05:22 PM
I sort of agree with you about the benoit thing. Iv heard JR say on his blogs on countless occasions that wrestling shows are a team effort, and just because one member of the team let the side down doesnt mean everyone else who contributed to making something great should get punished to. It wasnt as if benoit was the only guy that made his matches great (jericho, angle, malenko, eddie etc)
Posted By: DaJ (Guest) on September 30, 2008 at 05:48 PM
As much as it does mean you dont get to see great Eddie vs Benoit matches the good side is that they have to dig a bit deeper and get out matches that arent as common to see but are still great.
Posted By: DaveJuk (Guest) on September 30, 2008 at 06:16 PM
I'm hoping for a new Chris Jericho DVD! Make it!
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on September 30, 2008 at 06:25 PM
You know, I'm still kind of wondering what Eddie/Benoit material everyone is dying to see released. Sure, they were best friends and had a lot of decent matches, but nothing that's 5-star spectacular or that hasn't been released already. That's evident by the stretching you had to do at the end of the column to come up with 2 examples. And one of them is a tag match involving 4 other guys. Their match from the first One Night Stand sucked a dick compared to their usual standards.
Seriously, what are you people all crying out to see? I'd like to see the Vengeance 2003 match too but there's plenty of stuff on the announced release to make up for it.
Posted By: The REAL MP (Registered) on September 30, 2008 at 08:17 PM
Trying to erase Benoit from history and pretending he never ever existed is plain stupid and pointless. While obviously he ended his life in a horrible, pathetic way to which there is no excuse, no forgiveness and which can't be forgotten, before that he had a 20+ years long career, 15 of which he spent in WCW, ECW and WWF/E, which not only today are the basis for the WWE media library, but are basically the history of pro wrestling in America. Wrestling fans know who he was, what he did and how he lived and his history is intertwined with MANY wrestlers past and future, some of which are the staple of WWE history and will be on many, many future DVDs (you think you've seen the last HHH, Eddie Guerrero or Chris Jericho DVD? Oh, and just to mention - 2 of them are current WWE World Champions). The most blatant example was how the WWE history now claims that in the main event of WMXX HHH wrestled HBK and lost the WHT to... nobody. And then they wrestled a rematch for the title at Backlash and... again they both lost.
Posted By: Guest#0808 (Guest) on September 30, 2008 at 09:19 PM
I would like to spend some time analyzing the young, up and coming wrestlers. Who has the most potential? And who needs to get sent down to the minors for some more work?
Also, do you think that one of the major wrestling companies would ever do a ppv naked wrestling match? I'm salivating merely thinking about that. It might have a different target audience, but I bet the ratings would be through the roof.
Posted By: T. Sumter (Guest) on September 30, 2008 at 10:36 PM
You know, I'm still kind of wondering what Eddie/Benoit material everyone is dying to see released. Sure, they were best friends and had a lot of decent matches, but nothing that's 5-star spectacular or that hasn't been released already. That's evident by the stretching you had to do at the end of the column to come up with 2 examples. And one of them is a tag match involving 4 other guys. Their match from the first One Night Stand sucked a dick compared to their usual standards.
Seriously, what are you people all crying out to see? I'd like to see the Vengeance 2003 match too but there's plenty of stuff on the announced release to make up for it.
Posted By: The REAL MP (Registered) on September 30, 2008 at 08:17 PM
Aren't you late for the san fran gay pride parade. I hear they like your type. Pitchers with small dicks that resemble an overlarged clit.
Posted By: Dante Hicks (Guest) on October 01, 2008 at 01:17 AM
Saying the "E" is endorsing murder by having a Benoit match on a DVD is like saying they endorse DWI because Santino is still on TV. Or when the long-awaited Ken Patera DVD gets released that they endorse throwing a boulder through a McDonalds drive-thru window.
But I'm with The REAL MP (as I usually am) - what match that hasn't been released do you want again?
Posted By: Ryan (Guest) on October 01, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Guest808...he is still mentioned in title histories ON WWE'S OWN OFFICIAL WEBSITE. And the WMXX page on the same site, hey, who's that with Eddie on the top of the page? The results seem intact too.
They just no longer have a link to a profile/etc. on him.
It's pretty thorough, but some of you are still exaggerating a bit. I heard that Austin's and HHH's recent DVDs mentioned him by name even. I personally think it's intrustive to enjoying the older shows, yes, but I understand why they do it.
Posted By: James (Guest) on October 02, 2008 at 06:48 PM
P.S. I too agree with RealMP. When I think of Eddie as far as the New Japan Three, I think more of him and Dean together (mainly due to their ECW matches).
Posted By: Guest#0551 (Guest) on October 02, 2008 at 06:55 PM
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