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Tim's Take 10.21.08: You Can't Sell What You Don't Sell
Posted by Tim Livingston on 10.21.2008



I won't go the cliché route and bring in the Webster's Dictionary definition of the term "selling," but I'm pretty sure that the crowd who comes to this fine site of wrestling journalism knows what I talk about when I say that word. For those who don't, selling is a way to define damage done to you by a move from an opponent, usually expressed in screams of agony, contorted body parts and facial expressions to match. Additionally, there is the idea of implied selling, where certain moves dictate that because of its importance and/or impact, the move should be sold in the long term

Is there a reason why the majority of wrestlers today have forgotten how to sell?

One of the great things about old-time wrestling is that while the moves were a big part of how the matches flowed, the selling was even more important. You had to be able to express pain and discomfort in order to make the moves mean something. One of the great things about something as mundane as the heart punch is that while in reality it's a light tap in the chest, you sell it as if it has stopped your heart. We might know the Claw looks dumb, but hell, if the guy is going down because a guy with big hands is literally squeezing his head like a grape, it's dangerous.

I guess that's where the idea of stiffness came from, mostly in Japan, where it's treated more like a sport and a lot of the moves aren't pulled. Guys like Shin'ya Hashimoto and Kenta Kobashi could turn your chest into hamburger, and you sold it not because you wanted the crowd to know it hurts, but because it actually hurt you.

I'm reminded of the fantastic WrestleWar '89 match between Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat, a match that was basic enough thanks to the fact that wrestling in WCW in 1989 wasn't too far advanced outside of The Great Muta, but still stands the test of time because of how everything went down. Steamboat found ways to work over Flair's arm that would keep a story going, but it was how Flair sold it that really made it work. On top of that, Steamboat was such a great seller of agony that when he got in trouble, he made sure Flair's offense looked like it hurt. In fact, the only thing I truly wished in that match that I didn't get to see, even though it had happened in their other matches before, is that Steamer didn't get to sell the knee for the bulk of the match.

But it's the end of that match that tied it all together. Steamer was able to get the double chicken-wing on and build off the earlier arm work, and Flair sold it like death thanks to him being submitted to it at Clash VI, but Flair was smart enough to get a leg into the ropes to avoid having to submit, and then when Steamer tried a slam, his leg gave out and Flair rolled him up to win the title.

It was 32 minutes of beauty. Not because there was a whole bunch of neato high impact spots (I'm looking at you, Briscoes) or a propensity to not sell any of the chest blistering chops that were thrown out there (I'm looking at you, Kensuke Sasaki from the dome match with Kobashi) but because everything thrown in that match meant something.

My latest wrestling viewings have taken me to two distinct places in time. One is Memphis in the 1980s, a time where the stipulations of the various feud blow offs were plentiful and the wrestling was somewhat basic, but the intensity of the work was what made it great. There was some really amazing selling from the wrestlers as well, and it came from a lot of the usual folk, like Jerry Lawler, the Funks, Bill Dundee, etc. The other took me to Japan in 2008. I watched two matches from Japan that had been heavily touted. One was Big Japan strongman Daisuke Sekimoto taking on former ECW Champion Masato Tanaka, who is the hottest thing going in ZERO-ONE MAX, and the other pitted NOAH golden boy KENTA against Naruki Doi, one of the stalwarts from Dragon Gate. Both matches were conducted in a similar manner, but both matches also hurt from a lack of selling in either fashion. Hard work from either wrestler in either match was blown off, just so they could all get their spots in.

This downturn has been happening in wrestling for a long time. The highspot generation of fans has come to events expecting bigger and better every time they come to an event, with the wrestlers knowing they have to go out and basically kill themselves to get over. Matches aren't being contested on the merits of storytelling and selling, but on high impact moves and highspots being the focal point. The nadir of this to me was the match from last year between The Briscoes and the Motor City Machine Guns, a match that looked like it would start out well enough, with the Guns trying to establish themselves as heels, but the problem would become pretty prevalent in the final minutes of the match, where highspot after highspot was thrown out with little regards to selling the damage these moves seemingly take.

Ironically, while many fans love matches that are full of that type of workrate, people tend to say that Bryan Danielson is the wrestler many call the Best in the World. Danielson seems to be the only wrestler today who can reel in the tendencies of workers expecting to throw out highspot after highspot, and try and work a smart match built around selling and telling a story. While fans will go nuts for the big moves, Danielson is the one guy who knows much more goes into a match than flashy moves.

I also have to applaud how the WWE brings along their talent. A lot of people criticized me after my Bound for Glory piece last week, talking about how I continue to talk bad about TNA without bringing up the bad things that happen in WWE. Did you guys SEE No Mercy? Compare that, a somewhat throwaway show in the big picture of what WWE presents, to the show that TNA touts as its biggest of the year. On top of that, they did the gimmick match better than TNA has EVER done in one of theirs!

I applaud the WWE because their talent knows what needs to happen in order to make a compelling match. They keep things somewhat simple, but when the difficult things need to be done, not only do they perform it well, but they sell it like it's a big deal. A simple headbutt led to Jericho winning the ladder match because it was treated like a desperation move that paid off, and Michaels sold it like one. It's seriously a big-time difference there between WWE and their "competition."

At no point in the present does it seem like wrestlers understand why the past was so successful. You're only going to pop the crowd for so long before they get tired and want bigger and better. The idea is making the bigger and better mean more. Maybe we won't be seeing KENTA kick out of any Muscular Bombs anytime soon because of it.


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Tim, you are climbing the ladder into must read on a weekly basis.

You have hit the nail on the head!!!


Posted By: thegunisgood (Registered)  on October 21, 2008 at 11:15 AM

 
 
I basically want to say that you have highlighted a particular style of wrestling that can be very enjoyable when done well, but to be honest, you come off as rather arrogant in saying that is the best style of wrestling. It's not, there's no best style.

All styles have their place, I truly enjoy the athletic displays put on by highfliers. Some of them could do with laying off the high impact moves a little but there's room for the high spot style of wrestling. There's room for hardcore wrestling, catch-as-catch-can, everything. I think the WWE can be flat out boring at times because they just keep the offence too basic and believe me, only a handful of the wrestlers, both veterans and younger guys can actually utilise psychology well enough to make up for it.

RoH fares better because the wrestlers stick to their strengths. I think it's a real shame RoH let Adam Pearce go however, because he was a great heel and a real heat generator, and knew his way around the ring. So yeah, I don't deny the wrestling world can do with a few more guys who are like Pearce, Jericho, Flair and Steamboat, but the answer is for a better variety, not to just replace the hard work others do, as there's a reason people like high spot matches and you shouldn't take away from the effort involved.


Posted By: Sean McCabe (Guest)  on October 21, 2008 at 11:22 AM

 
 
it's not that wrestlers have to do crazy spots to get over, it's that it is easier to do crazy spots to get over than actually wrestle. I saw two guys in biloxi wrestle, john saxon and steve anthony. they know how to wrestler. the crowd popped for a headlock takeover. if done right, you don't need crazy spots to get over.

Posted By: supa sta (Guest)  on October 21, 2008 at 11:54 AM

 
 
Agree with you 100%.

Danielson proves match after match after match that psychology and selling in wrestling equates to more enjoyable matches.

For the simple reason that they don't (fucking) sell anything, I hate watching the Briscoes, which is a shame because they've had some fantastic matches in the past couple of years.


Posted By: TAT (Guest)  on October 21, 2008 at 01:00 PM

 
 
If I might throw my 2 cents out there about no-selling/lack of selling. It is something of a problem. The unfortunate counter point as Sean pointed out is that it takes a high level of skill to utilize psychology well enough to make up for the more traditional offense. Very few guys can do it, HBK, Jericho, HHH, Bryan Danielson, Nigel McGuinness, Batista on a very good day, Cena with surprising regularity, and doubtless a few other indy guys who I'm either forgetting or haven't seen enough of.
The other problem with no-selling spot filled matches is that the crowd will/always has/forever will pop for them. In my honest opinion I blame ECW in many ways for the degeneration of story based wrestling into spot fests. For example, look at any RVD-Jerry Lynn match. The crowds would go nuts for them, despite the fact that almost no story was told, and the only selling was either botched spot for an injury check, or because both guys had spent 5 minutes doing jumps and kicks with folding chairs. Admittedly that might be an exaggeration, but I believe the point remains valid.
Anyway, just hoping to stir the pot a bit. My thanks for an enjoyable column


Posted By: Last_Rider (Guest)  on October 21, 2008 at 02:06 PM

 
 
In the end it's about giving the fans what they want. Today's fans don't want storytelling they want higspots by the barrel full so in giving the PAYING customers what they're asking for indy workers have no choice but to do them.

While ECW may have helped usher in this style plenty of blame can be heaped on WWE's crash TV booking style of the Attitude Era and beyond where most matches barely eclipse the 10 minute mark and most undercarders are lucky to see 5 minutes. So obviously the current generation of fans has a shorter attention span and would boo the hell out of static displays like sleeper holds or leg locks.

Also you throw in the Goldberg/Brock Lesnar style Superman pushes WWE loves where the Superman push recipient is not allowed to look weak so once again the art of selling falls by the wayside.


Posted By: The Unknown Unknown (Guest)  on October 21, 2008 at 03:02 PM

 
 
I think its unfair to put to much blame on ecw or the attitude era of wwf when it comes to this issue.Lets not forget the road warriors, hogan, ultimate warrior, undertaker and sid as examples of poor selling. I'm sure there were plenty of others from the 80s and early 90s I could name.

But then again it is true that by working a style that involved very little selling these people made money and did give the fans what they wanted to see. Just like the Kenta and the Briscoes do. I think theres definately a place for these guys in wrestling today just as much as theres a place for people like danielson.


Posted By: britishfan (Guest)  on October 21, 2008 at 05:39 PM

 
 
In the days of short attention span fans with multi-media availability it becomes very hard to draw in new fans with "action packed psychology". There is no such thing, that's why.

Posted By: Ultimate Warrior's buttplug (Guest)  on October 21, 2008 at 07:36 PM

 
 
Excellent column,but I am a person who can enoy a spotfest or a hardcore wrestling match anytime.As for psychology in wrestling matches there's a number of guys in wrestling today who know about the art of selling and telling a story;HBK,Jericho,Edge,HHH,MVP,Punk and even Cena and Batista.Some guys today fortunately still understand the art of telling a story in the ring.

Last_Rider said it perfectly.


Posted By: gary year (Guest)  on October 21, 2008 at 10:31 PM

 
 
great column. i agree with most of what was said, however the WWE is not perfect either. Yea, they have some world class level veterans that can still put on classics, but not everyone can. Yes, with practice and experience this can happen for most, but I think the problem is similar to what THE Larry Csonka was talking about in his essay the other day. There's really a lack of defined characters throughout the roster. U have a handful of guys that ppl identify with and have something that separates them at the top, but the lower and midcard guys I could honestly care less about. Not taking anything away from their in ring ability, but guys like Miz and Morrison do nothing for me. All the young cocky guys seem the same to me, and that includes rhodes, dibiase, most of smackdown and ecw, etc. I dont think they benefit from being brought up and pushed so soon, even if little IWC groupies gush over them. And the other problem is the matches are WAY too short. I barely watch any modern (last 5 years) day wrestling because I simply dont care about the "characters" and stories, and the matches are bland and short. I dont think the guys are given enough time to develop and give me a reason to care. Yea, shorter ring time may be a minor factor in preventing injuries, but a real professional should be able to work 10 minutes or 60 minutes without hurting himself or opponent. Now, I'm no wrestling expert, just a long time fan. And I'm not asking for 60 minute draws or even 20 minute classics in every match. But 3 minutes "matches" 4 or 5 times on every show just doesnt interest me and seems contrived. O well, at least I still got wwe 24/7

Posted By: amusing comments (Guest)  on October 22, 2008 at 03:59 AM

 
 
Allow me to refer everyone to ROH's "Secrets of the Ring with Raven" series for great points on selling, as well as many other fundamental ideas behind being a wrestler.

That being said, the one thing in selling that bothers me is when a wrestler can't sell his own finishing move. There were 2 greats when it came to selling in this fashion - Chris Benoit and (surprisingly, considering his lack of selling in other areas) RVD. When Benoit would come off the top with that diving headbutt, he'd lay there like he was stunned (although now in hindsight maybe he was). When RVD hit the 5-star, he'd bounce off his opponent and roll around clutching his gut. That would leave the veiwer with the impression "damn, if he hurt himself that much, how bad did he just mess up the other guy?"


Posted By: Scott B (Guest)  on October 22, 2008 at 09:38 AM

 


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