Tim's Take 10.28.08: See You at the Crossroads
Posted by Tim Livingston on 10.28.2008
This ain't exactly TNA, but ROH has reached a turning point. Bye-bye, Gabe. Welcome back, Adam. Hello, brand spanking new ROH?
For six years, a company has been first and foremost on the tongues of "pure" wrestling fans, those who have wanted a true alternative to whatever they saw on their TV week in and week out, a break from the monotony of big time sports entertainment.
You'd think that with Sunday's news of Gabe Sapolsky's firing as head booker, Ring of Honor actually bit the dust. But much like the New York Jets, rumors of its demise are unfounded. Fans are talking about Sapolsky losing the book as if the head of a dragon has been cut off.
I'm going to say this much. When Reborn hit in April of 2004 after the scandal with Rob Feinstein, it was a huge breath of fresh air for the company. Sapolsky took over the book and he allowed a bit more freedom to be expressed, and that Reborn weekend gave ROH the momentum it needed going forward. It's somewhat of a misnomer that ROH was always about the hard-hitting and stiffness and such (although that was definitely a major part of it) as that weekend saw Homicide turn into a sadistic heel and burn Samoa Joe's face with a fireball, something that set up a great feud between the two throughout the summer. It was something that was unexpected, but in the era of honorable competition, Homicide's heel turn was a welcome change. Heels had been done before in ROH, but nowhere like what Homicide did.
Then, the four years that followed brought a prosperous time for ROH. Sapolsky had this way of making each event special in some way, and he really did go all out to get his wrestlers to go out and work their asses off. He did it well, but what people don't realize is that while Sapolsky was the head booker, a great majority of the wrestlers, especially at the top of the card, booked their own programs. Sapolsky was merely a great overseer and personnel wrangler. He gave the final go-through on how things would go down, he would ok it, and off they went. If anybody would try and give the Heyman comparison to Sapolsky, it was warranted, because while Heyman did have a lot of creative control, he made sure that his wrestlers had a say in what went down. He was a pretty good guy at establishing a connection with the wrestlers and keeping them going. He wasn't the motivator or manipulator that Heyman was, but he knew how to keep his product going.
I think when people wonder why Gabe was ousted, it's comes down more to how the product was presented and how much that product brought back into the company. The ROH brand, if you will, was that of wrestling at its purest form, an exhibition of athleticism, skill and toughness, and to leave the carny, superficial world of entertainment in its rearview mirror. At the very least, make it a minimum portion to the big plate in front of you. That's not to say that ROH was without gimmicks; if you don't have a gimmick, you really can't be a wrestler. People need to engage you somehow. Even someone like Bryan Danielson, who people said needed to grow a personality, had a great gimmick with him proclaiming he was the best wrestler in the world, and that he'd do everything he could at any cost to prove it. His subtle heel mannerisms, especially in his world title reign, were phenomenal. Skeptics doubted him, and Danielson proved them wrong. Besides, he has till five, ref.
Gabe's legacy will be that he was a great manager of creative minds, and that he brought in a lot of great personnel. Although, the second will be debated for a long time to come. When ROH got the Japan bug after bringing in the All Japan guys in 2003, it took them down a road that really diluted the product. It got to the point that ROH wanted to be so much like the Japanese product that they tried to become the Japanese product. I'm all for bringing in outside wrestlers to spice things up, but Gabe did it at a breakneck pace, turning the random appearance of a Naomichi Marufuji into a title reign for Takeshi Morishima. Granted, Morishima's reign was a favor from NOAH because of their agreement, so that they could set up Morishima's growth for NOAH's own singles title, but there's something about that which didn't sit well somewhere: the pocket book.
For all of the good things Gabe did, he offset the gains that ROH could have made with the bringing in of talent from overseas. Granted, the exposure he gave them here got people into their style of wrestling, but it was a self-indulging move by Gabe, a notorious mark for Japanese wrestling whose dream of seeing the wrestlers he idolized most come in for a one-shot to pop a crowd, but to also break even. ROH didn't make enough money to offset the costs of a lot of these wrestlers appearing, and while things like Joe vs. Kobashi sold big, the true gains were far and few between. In fact lately, a lot of the places they extended to didn't draw well (and I should know, as about 500 people showed up in the 13,000 seat Cow Palace for the San Francisco show) which put ROH in the tough position of stopping a lot of their expanding. Their trips to Japan always made them break even instead of actually making money. There is a big difference between doing shows to stay alive and doing shows to make money, and lately, it was to stay alive.
However, Gabe doesn't deserve all the blame. The economy right now isn't that advantageous for wrestlers, who pay their own way on a lot and don't get paid too much in the way of appearances unless they're higher on the card. That, along with an increase in ticket prices and DVD prices has made it harder for the wrestling fan to stay involved. The pay-per-views are a nice change of pace, but in the end, what truly matters is that if you want to run a successful business, you find a way to make money. Gabe stopped doing that, and now ROH believes they need to move in a new direction.
The man who takes over at the top is Adam Pearce, the same Adam Pearce who left ROH when he was told they had nothing to offer him after his run with Brent Albright. He has previous booking experience at smaller levels, and with the perceived notion that ROH wants to venture into TV, Pearce brings the experience of running a TV show. He's someone who lives for the old school, but the main problem that people have with him as the booker is that he'd book himself at the top. I'm going to give Pearce the benefit of the doubt of him knowing he had a niche within ROH and he did well with it. He wants to push a 70's oriented type of booking style, more old-school, if you will. However, that style will have to fight up against the newest of new-school, the brand of American pro wrestling that has staked its claim as pro wrestling at its purest form.
Granted, Pearce's arrival as booker should allow ROH to make a move towards television, but it will not do it at the expense of what made it great. You might see storylines that seem familiar, or you might see some of the older wrestlers get a shot at being a major part of the show, but I think that if you completely change what ROH is about at this point in its lifespan, where they are losing money and could be on the verge of folding, you're not going to be able to come back. You need to be able to sustain some level of marketability, along with a semblance of originality. ROH definitely has the latter, but the former needs some work. Pearce's booking style should work if he doesn't try to Dusty Rhodes the book, and let the other wrestlers do what they do best: express their own creativity. It'll be something to see over the next couple months, but rest assured that ROH will go in a different direction, and that it won't be the wrong one.
At the very least, Bone Thugs 'n' Harmony got it right. ROH, we'll see you at the crossroads.
(Addendum: It has to be said that the base of all ROH fans is that they are attuned to the wrestling business and know all about what goes on behind the scenes. Everyone knows now that Pearce is the new booker, and chances are we will find out right away how much people like Pearce's booking stylings. Whatever the change will be, ROH's fanbase will let the company know right away what they think of the product. This could be a very quick change if this doesn't work out, but I'll also say that Pearce has a good track record of knowing what a fanbase wants.)
(Addendum to the addendum: Apparently, Pearce wants to kayfabe him being the booker when he appears as a wrestler. That's kayfabe for a fanbase that KNOWS HE'S THE BOOKER ALREADY. Absolutely a horrible first step. Wow. I take back what I said about Pearce's track record about knowing what his fanbase wants. Absolutely horrible.)
Seriously, ROH is the promotion that this tactic is least likely to work on. And if I were Pearce, I would stay the hell away from the ring. Everyone knows he's the booker now and he's going to draw the exact opposite of the heat they seem to want from the crowd. If they want to shift the attention away from backstage and into the in ring, then they need to leave him in the back. I guarantee as soon as he comes out to the ring all you're going to hear is "Fuck you Pearce" and "we want Gabe" chants and no one is going to give a shit about a damn thing he says or does in the ring.
This is exactly what worries me about the choice of Pearce as the booker, does he not know anything about the promotion he has been apart of for the last several years? How could he think this tactic would work with ROH fans? How the hell is he going to book to ROH fans when he tries a stupid stunt like this? It shows a complete lack of understanding of his fanbase!
Posted By: WholeFnMachine (Guest) on October 28, 2008 at 01:16 PM
Credit: Declarationofindependents.net
DOI Note: The following was set to us by a current ROH wrestler who wanted to remain anonymous but wanted his points out there.
All good things come to a end. ROH was created in 2002 and we know all the history of the company. Rob Feinstein had a dream and put his heart and soul into the company. Along with Doug Gentry and Gabe Sapolsky they created something speical. They knew their niche and started their own brand of strong style in the states that resembled New Japan pro wrestling's jr division with a blend of All Japan wrestling and a added twist of ECW.
In the last 24 hours ROH looks doomed. There has been so many behind the scene problems in the last 6 months that its own booker went looking to work for the WWE and that was not by choice. I know Gabe very well and he has always been outspoken on his problems with the office staff who just did not understand the wrestling business. He was given the keys to the car, but often told me that Cary always wanted him to drive the wrong highways. Gabe was not a easy person to get along with. He was a very paranoid person from day one in the company. In IL there were many fights in hotels between the office staff that if any of the other boys would have heard we would have all been looking for work else where. I always remained with the company knowing my spot.
Two months ago I told Gabe that he is going to be cut in due time. The writing was all over the wall. I was hearing all types of negative comments from Syd and Ross and there were many secret meetings in towns with Adam. I also knew that Cary was getting more involved and really breaking Gabe's balls by always questioning him. Just last week there was a major blow up which at this time does not matter.
What matters is Gabe was fired with no warning what so ever. I was backstage and I knew it was coming on Saturday when I saw Cary storm off into Syd's work area. Then the time bomb went off just hours later. Gabe was so in shock that when he was leaving I was scared to even go up to him. In less than 24 hours later the company has a new booker who I might remind you is a worker just like me.
Now this is not 1986 and Adam is not Dusty Rhodes but this is never going to work. ROH is a indy company and nobody in that locker room is going to take orders from another wrestler that has no track record. Why will the boys listen to Adam? What has he done in wrestling other than run a small company in CA. Do you know how many egos are in the ROH locker room. Do you know how many guys think they could now book the company? Adam sent a email out to the entire staff yesterday and asked us to Kfabe he was the booker. I almost spit my water out of my mouth. This thing is doomed to fail. You can't be a booker and than book yourself into the top heel spot. Like I said if this was a Terry Funk or a Dusty Rhodes things would be smooth sailing but Adam can't just come into our locker room and take over the ship. He is just a indy worker, who is a great old time heel. But that heat will never work in ROH.
I re-read his email and how he is going to change the style of the company and to be quite honest I know alot of the boys are not happy about this and we are not happy that Cary stabbed Gabe in the back. Gabe is no angel by any means but now there is a pattern here. I know that after the Feinstein incident that he was led to beleive he would be brought back. Cary and Feinstein met over and over again as Feinstein had a plan and a investor that was going to relieve Cary as the front man but let him remain owning the majority of the company. They were about to get a TV deal as well. Cary along with Syd Eick thought they could make more money without Feinstein by forcing him to sell ROH so they can do a version of RF VIDEO and combine it with ROH as they did early on with their straight shooting series. That system failed miserabally. Cary than promised Doug Gentry a spot for life later to turn on him because he remained loyal to RF VIDEO. Now Gabe after giving 6 years of hard work to the company they just stab him in the back. This man lived and breathed ROH and brought Cary to where he is at now. Yes he might be broke but without Gabe there is no ROH.
As a wrestler, how can you trust ROH? I mentioned Feinstein, Gentry & Sapolsky. Thes are the three men that built Ring of Honor. These are three men who put their livelihoods on the line for ROH. And now? All have been stabbed in the back & fired from Ring of Honor. The wrestling business will eat you up.
I don't know where I stand right now with ROH, but any wrestler is expendable. I am happy that a straight person is booker rather than Luke though. If we had a gay booker it would fuel sites like DOI and message boards because of Cary's orientation. I don't think Pearce is the right guy in the end.
I read Bob Magee's column about ROH and how you can compare this to Vince buying ECW where it's called ROH, but it really isn't ROH. The jury is still out on that and Bob does come off like this is the end of the world but I do agree that the ROH letters are about to go under a major transformation.
The company is going to go under after a few short months. I would have rathered see Cary be honest with his locker room because now we never know what to expect. Nobody trusts anyone after this week because we all thought we were a family. This is no disrespect to Adam, but brother your just one of us. You are throwing your career away on this one. This will hurt you with TNA & WWE. I hope NWA pays your bills because ROH sure won't. I know many of us feel betrayed and I hope that after this weekend some of us learns the true definition of honor.
To Gabe, I know you hate this site but no other site would print this. It was an honor to work for you and shake your hand. The code of honor still lives inside of the ones who believed.
Posted By: In Hawaii (Guest) on October 28, 2008 at 05:53 PM
Adam Pearce - the new HHH of ROH. Can't wait till he starts beating the shit out of random tag teams for no reason.
Posted By: AnonScalia (Guest) on October 28, 2008 at 06:22 PM
So an e-mail from an unnamed source is supposed to be proof that the ROH locker room is against Pearce? Just because a website vouches for sadi e-mail does not make it legit. Let that website print the name or ring name of the wrestler, so that we can judge the validity of said claims. Otherwise, I heard from an unnamed guy that the WWE locker room loves HHH and thinks he ought to hold all the titles in all the brands.
Posted By: Iron Knee (Guest) on October 28, 2008 at 08:05 PM
Wow....I wonder if ROH is pulling a fast one and trying to "out smart" the smart fan? Maybe you WILL see Adam go over EVERYONE and become ROH champ in the first 2 months BECAUSE everyone knows that he is the booker? Can you think of the amazing heel heat that he would get if that happened? lol
I think ROH maybe on to something interesting lol...
Posted By: Industry (Guest) on October 28, 2008 at 08:54 PM
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