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Thoughts From The Top Rope 12.17.08: Top 10 WWE Matches of '08
Posted by Daniel Wilcox on 12.17.2008




I'll admit it; I'm a sheep. The next few weeks is going to be plagued with writer's "Year End" lists, running down the best and the worst of 2008, and I'm no different in that respect. You won't agree with everything I say or indeed what anyone else says, but just remember everyone has an opinion, and not to take things too seriously.

About a year ago, I wrote an article listing The Top 10 Matches of 2008. While predicting the year's best matches at the beginning of the year is always going to be difficult, I think I did OK; I correctly predicted John Cena and Batista would tear it up at Summerslam, that Edge and Undertaker would settle their feud inside Hell in a Cell, that the MVP/Hardy rivalry would come to a head at Backlash, that Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho would renew their rivalry with Jericho turning heel, that Edge and Taker would main event Mania and even that Christian would resign with WWE.

But now 2008 is (pretty much) behind us and it's time to look back at the greatest matches from the past year that actually took place. To pre-empt any inevitable comments, ROH nor any other indies promotions are considered for this list and in fact, neither is TNA. If I'm honest, I have trouble remembering much of TNA's product due to its complete clusterfuckiness, so I'm not even going to bother trying to recall their best matches. So in essence, this is a WWE-exclusive countdown of the 10 Greatest Matches of 2008.

Honorable Mentions:
Triple H vs. Undertaker (SmackDown, Oct 3) – This was a match that really should've been saved for a PPV, because it's not often these guys go one-on-one. I think both men proved just how good they still are despite the fact that a few others may have surpassed them in terms of how good they can be in the ring. That said, this was a tremendous free TV match and showcased two awesome performers at their finest.

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels (Judgment Day, May 18) – No doubt, these two had many great matches this year, but I think this one goes forgotten because of just how much their feud would pick up as the year progressed. This was simply a fantastic wrestling match put on by two fantastic wrestlers. From a pure wrestling stand point, this is the best match these guys had all year.

Money in the Bank IV: Chris Jericho vs. CM Punk vs. John Morrison vs. Mr. Kennedy vs. MVP vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Carlito (WrestleMania 24, Match 30) – MITB is always going to appear on these year-end lists. This, in my opinion, was the best Money in the Bank match since the first one, with Morrison, Benjamin and Punk in particular truly shining. This was very innovative, and somewhat breathtaking.

TLC Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Edge vs. The Undertaker (One Night Stand, June 1) – This one might have been higher if it wasn't for the blatantness of some of the spots. That said, it was another great spotfest and it was awesome to see Taker taking some hellacious bumps as he proved he could stick it with Edge in this type of environment.

Steel Cage Match: Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga (Raw, Jan 7) – This one may only really be remembered for that ridiculous Whisper in the Wind that ended the match, but watching it again last week, it really is a great cage match from start to finish, indeed perhaps one of the best cage matches the WWE has done in many, many years. Of course, that big spot does leave a lasting impression, which helps.

10. Parking Lot Brawl: John Cena vs. JBL (Great American Bash, July 20) – I'll be the first to admit that this match isn't to everyone's taste. Many thought it was over the top and ridiculous, but I loved it, because sometimes over the top and ridiculous is just what's needed. These two had a great brawl and came up with some nice spot and created some cool-looking visuals. The only complaint I have is that JBL went over, but other than that I am a huge fan of this match and think that many underrate it.

9. WWE Championship Match: Edge vs. Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy (Armageddon, Dec 14) – Maybe this wouldn't be so high if it weren't for the historic win and the fact that it took place mere days ago, but I really did think that this was a fantastic triple threat featuring three of the best performers in the business. The Spear spot through the table was insanely awesome but the rest of the match shouldn't go forgotten as they built up to the finish extremely well and worked in a lot of cool stuff. Maybe the shock ending results in it being overrated, but regardless, this is a great match.

8. Elimination Chamber Match: Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Chris Jericho vs. Umaga vs. Shawn Michaels vs. JBL (No Way Out, Feb 17) – This match seems like it took place so long ago. I watched it again last week and I think it's a grower. Certainly down the stretch, this match is just awesome, as you'd expect with so much talent in the same ring at the same time, with JBL. The fact that we couldn't be certain who would win really helped here and Jeff seemed like he had a shot; indeed the final few minutes with just Triple H and Jeff remaining may be the best part of this excellent Chamber match.

7. WWE Championship Match: Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy (No Mercy, Oct 5) – These two have had some pretty great one-on-one matches with one another over the past year but I think this is the best of the bunch. These two share a unique charisma and produce some ridiculously exciting matches together. The finishing sequence here was all kinds of awesome and showcased what great performers both men are. Of course, the same can be said for all their other encounters over the last 12 months, but moreso in this match than any of their others, there was a real belief that Hardy could pull out the win here (sensing a pattern?).

6. WWE Championship Match: Triple H vs. John Cena (Night of Champions, June 29) – I for one loved the match these two had at WrestleMania a few years ago, but really wasn't sure if they'd be able to top it here. They didn't have the crowd with them as much this time around but I think they did indeed manage to top their previous encounter, and that's greatly due to Cena's improvement in the past couple of years. These two are both experts at letting a match build and then when the climax comes, having the crowd in the palm of their hand and that just about sums this match up. That said, because this was essentially a thrown together match on a throwaway pay-per-view, it doesn't get the credit it deserves, I feel.

5. World Heavyweight Championship Match: Edge vs. The Undertaker (WrestleMania 24, March 30) – This was a match that people had been wanting to see for a long, long time, and despite the history these two men had had over the year prior, this was the first one-on-one meeting between the two, save for Edge's opportunistic cash-in in May 2007. In hindsight, the outcome was inevitable but these guys had people thinking Edge could end the streak. It was a tremendous match well-worthy of closing out WrestleMania, and one that would be a pre-cursor for many more fantastic matches Edge and Taker would have over the coming months; it would take a hellacious gimmick match in August to trump this phenomenal effort though.

4. John Cena vs. Batista (Summerslam, August 17) – This is the closest thing this generation is going to get to Hogan vs. Warrior or Rock vs. Austin. However, that suggests that this match couldn't really be on the level of either of the aforementioned clashes, but that's an injustice to Cena and Batista. The two biggest names in wrestling to have emerged this century tore shit up here for thirteen minutes, no letting up, just balls to the wall action, proving that they can excite and entertain as well as anybody else on the roster. It may not have been a technical masterpiece, but it had that intangible, ineffable vibe of an instant classic, a match that will be remember for years to come. Of course, when they meet again, don't be surprised if they top this effort and this match gets forgotten.

3. Hell in a Cell: Edge vs. Undertaker (Summerslam, August 17) – It was inevitable that sooner or later, Edge and Taker would meet inside Hell in a Cell. We could expect a brawl, a spotfest and we could expect them to produce something memorable. But I think Edge and taker went above and beyond that here, incorporating into this match up all of the little things that had made their feud so great in the first place, playing off their history and delivering one of the most brutal and entertaining matches of the year; any other year and this would quite easily have been number one. People complain about little things like the lack of blood or the clichéd "sent to hell" finish, but considering the rivalry these guys had had, this was the perfect match for them to close out their feud on. These guys cemented their status as two of the best workers in the business with not just this, but their entire series of matches in 2008.

2. Ladder Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels (No Mercy, Oct 5) – Under any circumstances, Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho in a Ladder match is a dream match, no question about it. But when you factor in the amazing feud these two had this year, both in the ring and out, and the fact that it was two IWC darlings colliding over the World Heavyweight Championship, you have all the ingredients for a classic. And they didn't disappoint; this was one of the most violent ladder matches ever and proved that you don't have to be flashy to have a good ladder match. The "tug of war" spot at the end was one of the greatest and most memorable visuals of the entire year and I give both men much credit for the hell they put their bodies through in this match. Every match these guys had this year was of the utmost quality, but this one stands head and shoulders above those and every other match put on this year, bar one. If it weren't for the love we all have for Ric Flair, this would be number one.

1. Career Threatening Match: Ric Flair vs. Shawn Michaels (WrestleMania 24, March 30) – Sometimes you don't have to bring out any kind of gimmick or big spot to win a crowd and make a match memorable, because a select few professional wrestlers have the ability to produce from a crowd pure emotion, and never were there two better at doing that than Ric Flair and Shawn Michaels. And that's exactly what this match is built on; emotion. Neither guy was in their prime. Expecting much more from Flair than bare minimum in 2008 is a lot to ask for, but thankfully he was in there with the best. On its own, it was a pretty good match, but this was far from an ordinary match. This was Ric Flair's very last match, and because Shawn and Ric are such great performers, not just wrestlers but performers, it was one no one will ever forget. From the horrific asai moonsault onto the table to the sheer gall of HBK to try to win with an inverted Figure 4 to that final kick heard round the world preceded by Shawn's fatal utterance of "I'm sorry, I love you," this match captured the essence of wrestling, and in doing so became the 2008 Match of the Year by a country mile.

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So that concludes our look back at the Top 10 WWE Matches of 2008. Next week we countdown the Top 10 Performers of 2008, and if you look at the names appearing most frequently in the MOTY list, I don't think there'll be too many surprises.

And oh yes, this week marks the beginning of my 3rd year here at 411Mainia! Yeah, hardly worth celebrating, is it?


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Pretty good list here. I don't have a single WWE match in my top 5 right now, but I'm behind on a the last few PPVs so that may change. The only criticism I'd make is that parking lot brawl @ #10. I can think of many matches better than this one. Batista-Shawn @ Backlash or One Night Stand, and Chavo v. Matt Sydal to name 3.

Posted By: DocSarpolis (Guest)  on December 16, 2008 at 11:30 PM

 
 
Switch 1 and 2. Jericho/HBK was the best ladder match EVER. Flair/HBK was good but it has to only be getting the nod based on emotion (much like Rock/Hogan.)

Also, I hope you meant to call this article "Top 10 WWE Matches of '08 FROM PPV." Because there were some hidden gems on free TV that were damned sure better than Cena and JBL standing around and punching each other in between attempts to destroy cars.


Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest)  on December 16, 2008 at 11:34 PM

 
 
"this match captured the essence of wrestling."

I couldn't agree more. This is one of my all time favorite matches and easily the best match (by any company) of the year.

Great list.


Posted By: Bernie (Guest)  on December 16, 2008 at 11:35 PM

 
 
One thought comes to mind...

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?!?


Posted By: Guest#5743 (Guest)  on December 16, 2008 at 11:37 PM

 
 
Fine list there man, I was initially going to bitch like hell before I saw WWE in the title. lol

Posted By: goo (Guest)  on December 16, 2008 at 11:48 PM

 
 
"You are not an authority on wrestling so your shitty top 10 is invalid!" At the risk of sounding hypocritical as hell here, but bullshit like that is why I rarely post. Unless you've got something worthwhile to say, don't say anything. Fuck a smark.

Posted By: supa sta (Guest)  on December 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM

 
 
10. Parking Lot Brawl: John Cena vs. JBL (Great American Bash, July 20)

You, sir, are no longer allowed to make lists. I'm sorry, but this was most certainly not one of the best matches of the year, nor was it even a good match. Please remove this and replace it with one of your honorable ones instead. I will stfu you if you don't.

Try me.


Posted By: Banger (Guest)  on December 16, 2008 at 11:59 PM

 
 
I'm by no means anti-Cena or anti-Batista, but that match sucked all hell out of SummerSlam.

Posted By: Patrick (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:01 AM

 
 
I think Flair v HBK is a little overrated TBH. It was just so apparent to me as a viewer that Michaels had to slow down considerably just so Flair could keep up with him. I don't blame Flair for that but really he should've retred ten years ago.

Posted By: Olympic Hero (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:26 AM

 
 
Very good list. One match for me that seems to have been overlooked was the tag match on RAW between Rey Mysterio & Evan Bourne vs. Miz & John Morrison.
All 4 showed incredible talent and great high flying spots. Wish this wasn't forgotten.


Posted By: Tom (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:34 AM

 
 
Nice list there, Dan. I was going to berate you for doing a WWE match list a few weeks before I do my Fourth Annual Top 50 WWE Match list, but the layout of our Top 10 is actually quite different. While I don't believe the Parking Lot Brawl will appear on my list, props for sticking up for a match you liked.

Posted By: Andy Clark (Registered)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:43 AM

 
 
SHAWN MICHAELS VS JEFF HARDY?!!!!!!!!?

WHERE THE HELL IS IT? HMMM?


Posted By: marc (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:47 AM

 
 
4. John Cena vs. Batista (Summerslam, August 17) – The two biggest names in wrestling to have emerged this century tore shit up here for thirteen minutes, no letting up, just balls to the wall action, proving that they can excite and entertain as well as anybody else on the roster. It may not have been a technical masterpiece, but it had that intangible, ineffable vibe of an instant classic, a match that will be remember for years to come.


I'm sorry but this sounds like a cop out. People throw out that claim that matches "had that intangible" so often and it usually seems to be used in reference to matches between guys who are big names but not the best in the ring.

Hell, look at the match itself. Thirteen minutes? I'm sorry but it's pretty near impossible to go balls to the wall for only 13 minutes and still have a great match.

Cena vs. Batista was mostly both guys just hitting their signature moves back and forth only to kick out time and time again. As long as you're a big name any two guys can do that.

You said that this match will be remembered for years to come but in all honesty it seems that those type of matches are the ones that are forgotten the fastest or at least people realize very quickly that those matches were overrated.

At least Rock/Austin was technically a good match. It was still one of those where both guys hit lots of signature moves but they had substance besides that. Batista/Cena didn't.

Couple that with the long, boring JBL/Cena parking lot brawl and the fact that you included ONLY PPV matches and I'm sorry to say this but this list kind of sucks.

Guys like Rey, Morrison, Bourne, Matt Hardy, Punk, Benjamin, Kofi etc. have stole the show on TV week in and week out. I know it's easy to forget TV matches compared to PPV matches but come on. You completely ignored free TV. Are you telling me that there were no matches on free TV that were better than some of your choices?

I find that hard to believe.


Posted By: The Mayor of Awesometown (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:55 AM

 
 
Here are my top matches of 08.

Take every match Jericho and Shawn Michaels had, then add every match Edge and Undertaker had, put them all on the list, and there you go.

The best matches of the year.


Posted By: Guinness (Registered)  on December 17, 2008 at 01:00 AM

 
 
The Cena - Batista matchup shouldn't even be in the top ten IMO. The lack of buildup to me anyway took away from the effort both brought in the match. At best, it was decent, but I wasn't feeling it. One of the few BIG DEAL matchup left, and it felt like a RAW match.

Posted By: Texter Morgan (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 01:22 AM

 
 
I've seen the Flair/Michaels match about twice and honestly, I don't think it's that good

Posted By: Guest#4147 (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 01:38 AM

 
 
Decent Column. Would like to see something like "Best TV matches of 2008" columns on 411 as well. Let's hope we get to see that. Seperating TNA & WWE would be great as well, just a suggestion.

Posted By: AL (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 01:41 AM

 
 
It never changes with the IWC,a whole lists and they single out Cena/Batista.Why ?,because the IWC like neither and MUST point out the flaws in the match.Both guys went balls to the wall for the time they were given,did more then just exchange finishers,they utilised submissions and used big spots to keep the crowd,plus it had Batista OWNING Cena at the end.

***3/4,not a classic but a great match for sure.

I would have probably included atleast three of those Honorable Mentions on my actual list.Good stuff anyway.


Posted By: gary year (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 02:11 AM

 
 
Number 10 is "underrated", as you say, because it was complete shit.

Posted By: TAT (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 02:48 AM

 
 
Flair vs Michaels is the MOST OVERRATED Match in HISTORY .

If it was NOT the LAST match of The Nature Boy nobody would rate it highter than four stars out of five .

Hell just watch the best of starrcade DVD to see REAL FIVE STARS encounters featuring Mr Flair .

Even the worse Sting vs Flair WCW affair was one billion times more compelling and exciting to watch than this soap operatic drama for girls .


Posted By: Guest#5727 (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 02:50 AM

 
 
MATCH OF THE YEAR

TAKER VS EDGE - HELL IN A CELL/MANIA (DRAW)

FEUD OF THE YEAR

TAKER VS EDGE

Wrestler Of The Year

Tie = TAKER/EDGE

Dig IT !


Posted By: Rick Dangerous (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 02:52 AM

 
 
How about the one-shot RVD did against Santino?

Posted By: guest1999 (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 03:55 AM

 
 
A top ten list doesn't look right without Benoit

Posted By: K. Bett (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 04:05 AM

 
 
It is unfair to say Daniel cannot make a list simply because he put the Parking Lot Brawl as #10. So what? It's HIS opinion. Make your own list if you don't agree. Or, post your opinions here. But don't tell the guy he is no longer allowed to make a list.

Couldn't agree more about your #1. Ric Flair is a legend. As is HBK. I grew-up watching both these men and to see this match without even the career threatening stipulation was a dream come true. But the added drama of this possibly (and in the end) being Flair's last match made it that much better. And the Flair farewell the next night on RAW was the most emotional and touching thing I have ever seen in a professional wrestling ring. Simply amazing.

Overall, it was a pretty darn good (and memorable) year of wrestling in the WWE.


Posted By: Sam (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 05:15 AM

 
 
RVD vs Snitsky......Sleeper match of the year

Posted By: Dude (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 05:24 AM

 
 
A match I think that should at least get honorable mention was Shelton Benjamin vs Finlay on Smackdown.

Anyone who hasn't seen it should.


Posted By: Cap (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 05:31 AM

 
 
It never changes with the IWC,a whole lists and they single out Cena/Batista.Why ?,because the IWC like neither and MUST point out the flaws in the match.Both guys went balls to the wall for the time they were given,did more then just exchange finishers,they utilised submissions and used big spots to keep the crowd,plus it had Batista OWNING Cena at the end.

***3/4,not a classic but a great match for sure.

I would have probably included atleast three of those Honorable Mentions on my actual list.Good stuff anyway.

Posted By: gary year (Guest) on December 17, 2008 at 02:11 AM


Are you done telling people why they think something? God I hate that. It's so condescending. Stop jumping to cliches. Maybe people didn't like the Cena/Batista match because they honestly didn't think it was a good match. Why is that so impossible to believe?

Again with the "balls to the wall" comment. What does that even mean? No offense to the guys in the match but it seems hard to go balls to the wall in a 13 minute match.

What submissions did they utilize? Cena always pulls out his STF and Batista tries a figure four and that counts as submissions? If a guy like Orton did that people would say he was just being boring in the ring and staling. But it's a plus in this match apparently.

What big spots did they utilize that wasn't just them exchanging signature moves? Please ellaborate.

Oh, and Batista winning doesn't make the match good. Matches don't get better or worse based on who wins.

Geez, this is just insulting. I can't stand guys like you who just label everyone who disagrees with them with assumptions about why they like or hate something.

Yes, the IWC hates on Cena and Batista a bit more than they deserve. But that does NOT mean that ALL of the hate is undeserving. They can have sucky matches and that's what they did at Summerslam. It wasn't horrible but it wasn't anywhere near one of the top 10 matches in the WWE this year.


Posted By: The Mayor of Awesometown (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 06:49 AM

 
 
Great list !

My fav matches of the year were

Edge - Taker at ONS

And

HBK - FLAIR at WM 24


Posted By: Fan (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 08:39 AM

 
 
As always Mr. Wilcox has to take his head out of Cena's ass.

10. Parking Lot Brawl: John Cena vs. JBL (Great American Bash, July 20)

Are you kidding me? This should be on Top 10 worst matches of the year.


4. John Cena vs. Batista (Summerslam, August 17)

#4???? So you are telling me that all year there have only been 3 matches better then this crap fest? Really? If that's the case I need to give up and not waste my 2009 watching WWE.

I saw better matches on Raw in the last 2 weeks then these 2 matches...


Posted By: Kevin (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 09:19 AM

 
 
sorry, but there are way too many flaws with this list.

Posted By: guy incognito (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 09:42 AM

 
 
Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle go thirteen minutes = "OMG MOTY LOLZ"
Cena and Batista do the same = "How can you have a great match in that time?"


Posted By: Ian (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 10:13 AM

 
 
Pretty good list except for the JBL vs. Cena Parking Lot Brawl. That match was the shits. Definitely agree with the top three choices though. Batista vs. Cena makes my top ten too. I have it at #7 right now. Oh, and Flair vs. Michaels isn't just the MOTY, it's my favorite match in probably the last five years. I also think the other two Michaels vs. Jericho PPV matches deserve at least an honorable mention. But like I said, overall a good list.

Posted By: Guest#4034 (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 10:20 AM

 
 
what about the steel cage match prior to wrestlemania featuring edge/hawkins.ryder vs hbk/flair with a taker run in. that match was non-stop chaos from bell to bell which saw all three faces get dominated.

Posted By: jd (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM

 
 
Not a bad list, but I'm absolutely stunned at the inclusion of the Cena vs. JBL brawl. I just don't get it.

Posted By: DomDom (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 11:10 AM

 
 
To have JBL-Cena in the top 30 never mind top 10 is a joke.

Also Batista-Cena while decent is not a top 10 match.


Posted By: jbardo (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 11:26 AM

 
 
Good List. I would have placed Cena/Batista lower and Taker/Edge higher but that is just my opinion

Posted By: Triangles (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 11:35 AM

 
 
Damn, people will bitch over anything. Its his list, let him have an opinion as well. Let the playa play!

Posted By: Guest (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 11:46 AM

 
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone.

re TV matches; I considered plenty and include a few in the HM section, but I don't any were better than those in the top ten. Finlay/Miz/Morrison/Hardy, Jeff/Shawn and Jeff/Jericho from March were all close to making it.

re the Parking Lot Brawl; like I said, it's not for everyone. People are either going to love it or hate it, I thought it was great.

Clark, I'm looking forward to that Top 50 of yours.


Posted By: Daniel Wilcox (Registered)  on December 17, 2008 at 11:49 AM

 
 
That's a pretty good list but the Parking Lot Brawl? I don't think so. I would have added Jeff Hardy-HBK's match on Raw earlier this year and Matt Hardy-Finlay's match on ECW that nearly went a half hour on ECW a few months ago. Talk about an underrated classic.

Posted By: Laura (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 11:52 AM

 
 
What grounds are you using for best matches of the year.. While i agree the flair vs Michaels match was a def classic it was not number 1. HBK sold this match as did Flair but it was more of a match of centiment. Batista vs Cena though i like both wrestlers but that match really did suck.

Posted By: sketchy1 (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:12 PM

 
 
Emotion goes a long way in making a match great. I can't fault Flair-HBK at #1 over Jericho-HBK at #2 for a second.

Posted By: HBK's Smile (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:40 PM

 
 
Wow! What are the requirements to become a writer on this site? This guy needs to stop wet dreaming about John Cena and WTF Michaelsvs Flair number 1. You just keep losing credibility every time your columns come out. I just read them so I can see what kind of funny shit you come up with every time.

Posted By: technicalwrestlersrule (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:45 PM

 
 
Awesome, hey 411, where's the top ten TNA matches? Some people who aren't WWEtards might want to know where they can see some real quality matches.
Seriously, Cena??? His prescence invalidates any Top 10 list that doesn't have Waste of Space or Reasons Why WWE Sucks in the title.


Posted By: lOoKaTmE (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 12:50 PM

 
 
Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle go thirteen minutes = "OMG MOTY LOLZ"
Cena and Batista do the same = "How can you have a great match in that time?"

Posted By: Ian (Guest) on December 17, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Incorrect. Use internet speak all you want as an attempt at humor but that doesn't make what you say true. Once again, an ignorant person makes assumptions about others. I for one thought that Joe/Angle was only really good about half the time. Their first match was fairly weak and they never truly got it together until the Lockdown match. I'm sorry, but you're wrong in your belief that the entire IWC wanks over certain guys.

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Damn, people will bitch over anything. Its his list, let him have an opinion as well. Let the playa play!

Posted By: Guest (Guest) on December 17, 2008 at 11:46 AM

So we can't have our opinions too? If a guy writes an article about top ten matches then you should expect the comment section to have comments about said matches. You're taking issue with what this function of the website is designed to do.

No one is stiffling his opinion. We're just adding our own. Please allow us to do so.


Posted By: The Mayor of Awesometown (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 01:20 PM

 
 
Mmm some of these are questionable.

Dave vs Cena higher than Edge vs 'Taker from Mania? I don't think so.

For a start, Edge/Taker was a legit **** 1/2 match, where as the Batista/Cena match was just OK...*** 1/2 at best.


Posted By: Parxy (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 01:23 PM

 
 
I liked your list for the most part. I personally would've put the Edge/Taker TLC in the top 10 before the Cena/JBL brawl, but still, gotta stick with what you liked the best, and for the most part I think your list really encapsulates what people who haven't watched WWE over the last year should check out. While there were some hidden gems on free TV, these matches represent the bigger picture and give a better look at some of the years bigger moments.

I think Smackdown really brought it on the quality, free TV matches this year though- some of the stuff involving Shelton Benjamin, HHH, Jeff Hardy, Taker, Brian Kendrick- all worth checking out. But I can see why they were left off your list.

And I'm definitely with you on your number 1 pick... I can't imagine it being anything else. I was there live, the emotion of it was unbelievable. There are some wonderful moments in wrestling where emotional storytelling can be far more gripping and entertaining than the technicality of the match itself... and I think this was also the most important match of the year. Once again, if someone who hadn't watched WWE all year asked me "what's the biggest thing that happened this year in wrestling?"- Flair/HBK is the first thing that would come to mind. That's enough for me to recognize it as the match of the year.


Posted By: se7en17 (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 01:28 PM

 
 
Here's what I'm hearing:

WAAAAH!!! This guy likes Cena, and we hate him, so his list is the worst ever. WAAAAH!!!

Grow up, the guy lists his opinion of the top 10 matches. It's not be-all, end-all. I'm a poor college student, so I didn't see a lot of these matches live, but I saw HiaC when I bought SummerSlam, and I saw Flair/HBK on YouTube.

He even said that the match was built on emotion. If that match hadn't been the Career Ender, it may not have rated that high, but both guys "told the story". It seems to be a lost art among some wrestlers today.


Posted By: Slick Rick (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 01:52 PM

 
 
Wow, it's amazing too see so many posters act like drama queens and whine about a list based on the OPINIONS of the writer. Please stop acting like little girls just because you don't agree. Does it really freaking matter where one writer ranks certain matches over others?? It is just one writers opinions, please grow some balls and stop acting like bithces. And you wonder why the IWC is frowned upon by people in the business.

Posted By: Jim (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 03:57 PM

 
 
I'm not going to parse every word of this thing like I really want to, but where in the HELL is the Jericho/Michaels unsanctioned match from Unforgiven? Not even an honorable mention. Has everyone forgotten that match just because it doesn't have the glitz of the word "ladder" or "Wrestlemania?"

Sometimes I think you guys think this is all a beauty pageant or some dog-and-pony show, instead of athletic competition.


Posted By: The REAL MP (Registered)  on December 17, 2008 at 04:14 PM

 
 
To all the people calling the HBK/Flair match overrated:

What part of Wilcox's explanation didn't you get? When you watch WWE events, you are supposed to EXPECT a degree of emotion with every match. Of every match in '08, no match delivered that mix of emotion and superb wrestling ability better than HBK/Flair at 'Mania. And that is why this is WWE's best match, because it did exactly what it was supposed to do... fire up the audience and keep them on the edge of their seats!

Don't berate what you don't understand.


Posted By: A-Ron (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 04:47 PM

 
 
shawn michaels is in the 2 best matches of the year. i'm gonna keep posting it until it catches on...SHAWN MICHAELS IS THE MICHAEL JORDAN OF WRESTLING. best ever.

Posted By: b-rad (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 05:34 PM

 
 
Guys, Daniel Wilcox was kidding! Here is his real list!

10.Big Show vs Undertaker LMS (Cyber SUnday)
9. RAW Elimination Chamber (No Way Out)
8. Triple H vs John Cena (Night of Champions)
7.Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels (Unforgiven)
6.HHH vs Jeff Hardy (No Mercy)
5.Edge vs HHH vs JEFF HARDY (Armageddon)
4.Undertaker vs Edge (WrestleMania 24)
3.Shawn Michaels vs Ric Flair (WrestleMania 24)
2. Edge vs Undertaker HIAC (Summerslam)
1. Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho Ladder Match (No Mercy)

You can't please everyone!


Posted By: Chris (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 05:52 PM

 
 
Haha. Good one. When are you going to release the real list of top matches this year? This was a good joke though.

Posted By: Champ (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 07:04 PM

 
 
Here's what I'm hearing:

WAAAAH!!! This guy likes Cena, and we hate him, so his list is the worst ever. WAAAAH!!!

Grow up, the guy lists his opinion of the top 10 matches. It's not be-all, end-all. I'm a poor college student, so I didn't see a lot of these matches live, but I saw HiaC when I bought SummerSlam, and I saw Flair/HBK on YouTube.

He even said that the match was built on emotion. If that match hadn't been the Career Ender, it may not have rated that high, but both guys "told the story". It seems to be a lost art among some wrestlers today.

Posted By: Slick Rick (Guest) on December 17, 2008 at 01:52 PM

Please listen closer next time. Yes, there are people who are being unreasonable but that's not everyone. I for one believe that I have fully explained myself in a rational fashion. No "WAAH!" here, my friend.

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Wow, it's amazing too see so many posters act like drama queens and whine about a list based on the OPINIONS of the writer. Please stop acting like little girls just because you don't agree. Does it really freaking matter where one writer ranks certain matches over others?? It is just one writers opinions, please grow some balls and stop acting like bithces. And you wonder why the IWC is frowned upon by people in the business.

Posted By: Jim (Guest) on December 17, 2008 at 03:57 PM

Agreed. But on the same note we should be allowed to express our opinions on what matches should and shouldn't be on the list. Some people express their opinions in childish fashion but not everyone.

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To all the people calling the HBK/Flair match overrated:

What part of Wilcox's explanation didn't you get? When you watch WWE events, you are supposed to EXPECT a degree of emotion with every match. Of every match in '08, no match delivered that mix of emotion and superb wrestling ability better than HBK/Flair at 'Mania. And that is why this is WWE's best match, because it did exactly what it was supposed to do... fire up the audience and keep them on the edge of their seats!

Don't berate what you don't understand.

Posted By: A-Ron (Guest) on December 17, 2008 at 04:47 PM

That's pretty condescending. I understood his article fine. I just didn't agree. What's so hard to understand about that?

Flair/HBK absolutely did deliver tons of emotion. I don't fault that. But I have to disagree when it comes to actual wrestling action. HBK had to slow it down to less than half speed and it showed. Flair did an amazing job for his age but technically speaking the match didn't deliver for me. It's carried purely on emotion. I can think of other matches (like the HBK/Y2J ladder match) that had almost as much emotion and much more wrestling.

What's so hard to understand about THAT?


Posted By: The Mayor of Awesometown (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 08:04 PM

 
 
you definitely blow HHH. I hope he dies.

Posted By: jon caplan (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 08:25 PM

 
 
HBK and Jericho - unforgiven and no mercy watches were overrated as hell. There have been tons of ladder matches better than that one. Also the cell match was weak, cartoon match.

Posted By: nemz08 (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 08:25 PM

 
 
I ordered Wrestlemania when I really couldn't afford it because my dad had literally gotten out of the hospital 2 hours before Wrestlemania and is a huge Ric Flair fan.

I watched it with him, and this 56 year old man, still woozy on the meds, cried over Flair/HBK.

For that reason alone, it's also my match of the year. Probably of all time. Seeing it bring that sort of emotion out of my (admittedly medicated) father was something I wasn't expecting.

Yeah, it was a match built on emotion. It was a match for fans. Not just smart fans, not just casual fans, but also (and mainly) fans like my dad who've been watching and following wrestling their whole lives. It told a story, and told it well, and I don't care if Ric Flair had better matches 10 years ago. It just doesn't matter.


Posted By: luna (Registered)  on December 17, 2008 at 08:42 PM

 
 
I haven't seen the parking lot brawl, but you're the first reviewer to give it more than one star (I'm assuming you rate it higher than that!) The Flair-Michaels match brought tears to my eyes. Yeah, I'm a big wuss. But any match that can convey that level of emotion must be pretty damn good.

Posted By: APinOz (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM

 
 
That's pretty condescending. I understood his article fine. I just didn't agree. What's so hard to understand about that?

Flair/HBK absolutely did deliver tons of emotion. I don't fault that. But I have to disagree when it comes to actual wrestling action. HBK had to slow it down to less than half speed and it showed. Flair did an amazing job for his age but technically speaking the match didn't deliver for me. It's carried purely on emotion. I can think of other matches (like the HBK/Y2J ladder match) that had almost as much emotion and much more wrestling.

What's so hard to understand about THAT?

Posted By: The Mayor of Awesometown (Guest) on December 17, 2008 at 08:04 PM

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With all due respect, I suggest you go and watch the match again and count just how many wrestling moves are performed. This WAS a wrestling match... with a ton of emotion, indeed...


Posted By: A-Ron (Guest)  on December 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM

 
 
Seriously, no Orton matches?
I should .... something something you right now!


Posted By: Where the fuck is RKO? (Guest)  on December 18, 2008 at 02:37 AM

 
 
re TV matches; I considered plenty and include a few in the HM section, but I don't any were better than those in the top ten. Finlay/Miz/Morrison/Hardy, Jeff/Shawn and Jeff/Jericho from March were all close to making it.









As always, I would enjoy a good read of a full list of best TV matches. Doesn't necessarily means that you'll have to be the one to write it though.


Posted By: AL (Guest)  on December 19, 2008 at 07:54 AM

 
 
Good list I totally agree with #1 and #2 but Cena/Batista does not deserve to be in the Top 10 but it could have been a honorable mention. You should have put Taker/Edge TLC match in the top 10 you could have mentioned the Smackdown Elimination Chamber, HBK/Jericho from Unforgiven, and HHH/Jericho/Matt Hardy from Smackdown. I am also glad you mentioned HBK/Jericho from Judgment Day because it doesnt get the credit it deserves.

Posted By: Mark (Guest)  on December 23, 2008 at 04:47 PM

 
 
"re the Parking Lot Brawl; like I said, it's not for everyone. People are either going to love it or hate it, I thought it was great. "

You're the ONLY one who loved it. I know this is YOU'RE top 10 list, but if you think a God awful match like that is fantastic, you're going to get trashed.


Posted By: Guest#4465 (Guest)  on January 07, 2009 at 03:55 PM

 


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