Thoughts From The Top Rope 12.31.08: Top 10 Matches of 2009
Posted by Daniel Wilcox on 12.31.2008
Instead of looking back, let's look forward to the top ten matches that you might be seeing in 2009!
The Top 10 Matches of 2009
Nope, that isn't a title. As is the norm at this time of the year, everyone is either looking back at the previous twelve months, or looking forward to the next year. I'm doing things a little differently today, looking back at the past twelve months as if it were the end of 2009. Crazy, huh?
10. Last Man Standing Match Undertaker vs. Umaga (One Night Stand 2009) - Taker vs. Umaga is in fact a match that many people have been wanting to see for a long time and we finally got to see the two of them hook up this past summer. After a clean loss in their first encounter at Judgment Day, Umaga's continuous and relentless attacks on Taker lead to this Last Man Standing match, a bout both men have excelled in in the past. Both guys are great brawlers so we expected a top notch match, and both guys managed to deliver on this night, taking the action throughout the arena and ringside area and treating us to some great spots. One of the things I really liked about this match is how good Umaga looked in defeat, refusing to stay down on numerous occasions and even getting up from a Tombstone, only to fall to a second one, this time on the steel steps, moments later. A tremendous effort by both men, and easily Umaga's best match since his Rumble 07 Last Man Standing match with John Cena.
9. Chris Jericho vs. The Undertaker (Summerslam 2009) - I think it's amazing that these have never had a pay-per-view match with one another despite them being in the company for so long. Due to them both being aligned the same way or just being on different shows, this is a clash that people had never had the chance to see. That changed when Jericho was drafted over to SmackDown after a slow first half of the year on Raw, as these two went head to head at Summerslam. Jericho was the most vicious we've ever seen him here, really turning it up a notch in order to beat the Phenom. The finishing sequence seemed to be leading to an Undertaker win as he refused to stay down numerous times before making the comeback, but Jericho countered a chokeslam attempt into the second Codebreaker of the match, leading to the victory. Both guys put in a great effort, but this was only a sign of what was to come from these two.
8. Fatal Four Way for the WWE Tag Team Championship Carlito and Primo vs. Miz and Morrison vs. The Brian Kendrick and Ezekiel Jackson vs. Jesse and Festus (SmackDown, March 2009) - Carlito and Primo had been struggling to hold onto their belts for a long time but had seemingly held off all challengers, and this was the last opportunity any of these three teams would get at the Colons. I don't think anyone expected this match to go as long as it did, but we were gifted to an excellent free TV match here, under tornado rules. With some incredible athletes in this match, there were bound to be some great high spots, but these guys went above and beyond. This was simply non-stop action for a good twenty minutes, with a pretty awesome Festus/Ezekiel confrontation as an added bonus. The champs dropped the straps here to Kendrick and Jackson, but this wickedly fast-paced match will be enough to make their reign memorable.
7. CM Punk vs. Shawn Michaels (Raw, April 2009) - One of the things I love about tournaments is that they can throw together some excellent first-time match-ups (think Michaels/Benjamin from 2005) and this is another great example. While it would have been nice to see these guys mix it up on pay-per-view, this was a pleasant surprise and the best free TV match of the year. The mat-based work in the first ten minutes or so was sound, but when they picked up the pace later on things got really good, as both men shifted up a gear and when move for move, counter for counter. I was impressed by just how well Shawn could keep up with the younger Punk, but I guess by now I shouldn't be surprised. Much like Umaga earlier, Punk looked really good here despite the loss, kicking out of the Sweet Chin Music and only losing to a somewhat fluky roll-up, and this was a good way to kick start his heel turn as he began to become frustrated with himself and resorted to some heelish tactics here. This has always been something of a dream match, and while I think they could put on a classic given time on a pay-per-view, this was certainly enough to keep us satisfied in the mean time.
6. No Holds Barred Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy (Backlash 2009) - I have to give WWE credit for how well they booked this feud, from Matt costing Jeff the title at Royal Rumble and putting him on the shelf, to Jeff returning at No Way Out to cost Matt the ECW title and then the WrestleMania encounter, which Matt won via heel tactics. The No Holds Barred stipulation was a good choice as it captures the essence of the feud and allowed the Hardys to bring out the ladders, as we knew they would at some point in this feud. I was worried that these two would go back to their usual offence instead of wrestling the way such a rivalry would be fought, but I was glad to see that for the most part this was a great brawl with some very brutal highspots thrown in. And I have to say, the conclusion of this match was somewhat shocking, as Edge aligned himself with Matt, and together they took out Jeff for several months. This was a fantastic brawl with a surprising ending, and you can't ask for much more than that. Jeff would of course get his revenge months later, returning to beat Edge for the title, then taking out Matt in a Ladder match at No Mercy that was almost, but not quite, as good as this encounter.
5. Triple Threat for the World Heavyweight Championship John Cena vs. Batista vs. Randy Orton (Summerslam 2009) - I loved the booking of this match, as it blew off the hottest feud of the year in Cena/Orton, the unconcluded Orton/Batista rivalry and featured a great return for Batista. All three men went all-out in this match, completely stealing the limelight from the other Hardy/Edge main event, and making an uninspired crowd sit up and take notice. I think the fact that winner was very unpredictable helped this match a lot, but it was fantastic to see Orton finally pick up his fourth world championship, exactly five years after winning his first no less. These three have always been capable of having great matches, but to an extent there's always been a question mark as to whether the newer stars can carry a company by themselves and without the help of veterans like Taker, Michaels and Triple H, but they proved here that they can and did so in spectacular style.
4. Jeff Hardy vs. Kurt Angle (Armageddon 2009) - While we all knew Angle had left TNA and had thus assumed he'd be making his way back to the WWE, it was still an unforgettable moment when Angle return in November, laying out WWE Champion Edge and celebrating in front of his hometown crowd. Angle was right in the title picture but first had to overcome Jeff Hardy in this number one contender's match. Despite both men being faces, the crowd was solidly behind Angle here who reminded WWE fans just how good he was. Hardy played his part to perfection, taking a beating for the most part and making resilient comebacks only to be shut down once again. Hardy also did a great job of selling the leg, leading to the finish of Hardy tapping to the Ankle Lock. Angle vs. Edge at Royal Rumble 2010 is going to be a magnificent clash, much like this one was, but matches like this and the ones Jericho and Taker have been having are proof that SmackDown has far surpassed Raw in 2009.
3. Triple Threat for the WWE Championship Triple H vs. Undertaker vs. Edge (Backlash 2009) - Three veterans, three extremely capable performers, and they had one hell of a match at Backlash. Triple H's win over Edge at Mania was unpopular with a hell of a lot of people on the net, but his thirteenth reign as champ wouldn't last too long as Edge got the title back here. Much like the Cena/Orton/Batista match, the outcome here was up in the air for the most part and the numerous false finishes ensured that the fans didn't know who would win. Umaga's interference took Undertaker out of the equation, leaving Edge and The Game to work the last few minutes alone, and they did a great job of playing off of the spots they used at Mania while building to the finish. I loved the fact that Edge immediately utilized his new alliance with Matt Hardy by having Hardy interfere and screw Triple H, leading to a great series of Matt/Trips matches that did a great job of elevating Hardy. Everyone involved in this match busted their asses and it made for one of the best triple threats seen in a long time and third greatest match of the year.
2. Hell in a Cell Chris Jericho vs. The Undertaker (No Mercy 2009) - This was by far the feud of the year, Jericho turning his ultra-dickish character up a couple of extra notches in order to try and take out The Undertaker. Their two pay-per-view encounters prior to this suggested that they could do something special inside Hell in a Cell and they managed to do just that, without doing anything too flashy. Largely thanks to Jericho's awesomeness, fans were seriously concerned that Taker would not only lose this match but be seriously injured at the hands of Jericho. The level of violence Jericho displayed just forced Taker to up his game and become more violent himself. This bout was a tremendous spectacle and showed just how good these two men are at telling a story in the ring. I loved that they teased going up to the top of the cell, only for both to crash and burn as they tried to climb, Jericho hitting a side Russian leg sweep taking both through the announce table, in one of the most innovative spots of the year. I give much credit to Taker for taking those chair shots unprotected as he did, but I think it was necessary in the context of the match. And while some may complain about Jericho's loss, the standing ovation he got as he stood battered and bruised in the ring on SmackDown the week after proved that the loss did more for him than the win ever would.
1. Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker (WrestleMania 25) - And so we come to the number one greatest match of the year, and indeed the one everyone wanted to see the most. Two years in the making, Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker clashed in Houston, Texas at WrestleMania 25, Mr. WrestleMania vs. the man who's 17-0 at WrestleMania. It's a testament to the ability of both men that this match scoops the award despite the fact that we all knew that The Undertaker would preserve his streak here, but I don't think too many would disagree with me when I say that this is the best match Taker has had at a WrestleMania. The atmosphere here was, as expected, electric, and Michaels and Taker managed to produce one of the most epic and dramatic Mania matches in history in order to satisfy the rabid crowd, who were pretty much split 50/50. The feeling out process soon gave way to something of a wild brawl around the ringside area, which featured that one awesome moment where Taker ducked Chin Music, which then connected with a photographer, and Taker gave Shawn a look as if to say "that was meant for me? Shit!" And from here, not once did they let up, the pace was frantic throughout and you sensed that it could end at any time. They went a good twenty-five minutes though, and kept fans on the edge of their seats all the way through. The fact that Taker and Shawn, both well into their 40s, can still have the Match of the Year at this point in their careers just goes to show that they are two of the very best ever.
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I guess all that's left to say is Happy New Year! Here's hoping everyone has a great night tonight (but please, don't drink and drive) and indeed a great 2009. See you on the other side.
Posted By: qwerty (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:16 PM
On a more serious note: No Christian matches?
Posted By: qwerty (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:17 PM
I was there live for Taker-HBK and I can say that you made the right call. That match was INSANE. I think Angle vs. Edge at the Rumble may very well be the Match of the Year next year too. Great list!
Posted By: Andy Clark (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:21 PM
I'd love to see all of these except for maybe a Christian & Edge vs. Matt & Jeff in a TLC at WM25. Although, I too have called that Matt took Jeff out at Survivor Series this year, I do have the hope of ONE of them keeping the title and then battling for it at Mania. (Preferably Matt's WWE title win)
Posted By: Empire Of Ownage (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:25 PM
No fucking chance #8 is even in WWEs radar
Posted By: Guest#0632 (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:26 PM
here are the macthes i like on your list...
#10, #9, #1...
#4 will not happen period.
#6 will be shitty, i hate matt.
#7 COULD be good. COULD. only if raw doesnt book it as some shitty 10 minute raw main event with 2 commericals in between
#8...no...just no...
#3, and #5 could also be good, once again, if they book it the right way
Posted By: (guest) (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:29 PM
What a waste. Another WWE mark with some sleepinducing matches. No Roh or TNA matches huh?
Posted By: Guest#7963 (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:31 PM
None of these matches are going to happen! You can thank HHH for the #1 match not happening either. The WWE is throwing away the biggest match ever with Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels. The event is in Texas and the heat would be RIDICULOUS for that match but no... we are going to get HBK vs. JBL the match NO ONE wants to see and probably HHH vs. Taker... the match NO ONE wants to see
Posted By: natedoggcata (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 12:19 AM
What exactly is the criteria to get a writing job here at 411? Did this guy forget about TNA?
The writer must be an 11 year old WWE mark, this is ridiculous.
Posted By: miles (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM
dur....just dur
Posted By: guy (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 12:50 AM
Don't you mean top WWE matches of the year? I mean, you can be excused from excluding the world outside the united states (just) but the stuff from your own country? come on!
Posted By: Joel (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 01:08 AM
Why doesn't the author just sign himself off as Vince's fanboy. Newsflash - the rest of the world exists, it's even alleged there are some other wrestling promotions in the United States. Heck, even if you titled this "matches in the WWE I wanted to see in 2009", anyone with a little imagination could assume that Vince might sign someone from RoH, TNA or the indies. How about a Shawn Michaels vs American Dragon feud - the wrestling would be to die and there would be a back-story. For sure the useless tag team match above would be livened up by signing Age of the Fall.
Posted By: phils (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 01:28 AM
As great as the Hardy/Angle match was, I thought it was a bit disturbing that the feud was based not on who could out-wrestle the other man, but who could out-live him.
And to think, if Vince hadn't compromised on the Wellness Policy back when Batista re-re-aggravated his hamstring one day after he came back from injury, allowing for 208 violations instead of three, we never would have seen this gem!
Posted By: Sam! (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 01:44 AM
there is a ridiculous exclusion of Shelton Benjamin in this article.
Posted By: S Dot (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 01:47 AM
10. John Cena vs. JBL Royal Rumble
9. John Cena vs. JBL II No Way Out
8. John Cena vs JBL III Backlash
7. John Cena vs Dolph Ziggler RAW
6. John Cena vs Sim Snuka Judgement Day
5. John Cena vs Chris Jericho SummerSlam
4. John Cena vs Edge WWE Draft
3. John Cena vs Jobber Monday Night RAW
2. John Cena vs AJ Styles TNA Impact
1. John Cena vs Sting TNA Final Resolution
BTW Cena goes over in all of the matches
Posted By: I'm 32 and I hate Cena, GRRRR! (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 01:56 AM
I will be at Summerslam in Los Angeles and THE ONLY PLACE I WANT TO SEE BATISTA IS BACKSTAGE IN A WHEELCHAIR.
Posted By: Guest#5763 (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 01:58 AM
Daniel Wilcox, like everyone else in the wrestling world, knows that the WWE is the only company that matters.
Posted By: Jeff Jarrett & Cary Silkin (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 02:08 AM
I was there live for Taker-HBK and I can say that you made the right call. That match was INSANE. I think Angle vs. Edge at the Rumble may very well be the Match of the Year next year too. Great list!
Posted By: Andy Clark (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Fuck yeah Andy, Shawn/Taker was so EPIC that the word epic should now be retired as nothing will ever come close to it.
Jericho's reversal of the chokeslam into the codebreaker at Summerslam was SICK. I thought Taker died when he hit Jericho's knees. EASILY reversal of the year.
Shawn/Punk was definetly the Raw/free TV match of the year. It's a shame we didn't get it on PPV though.
The Jericho/Taker HITC was one of the best in years. Sick match.
I still can't believe Kurt Angle's return. I mean that ENORMOUS pop he got in Pittsburgh when he came out and decked Edge was AMAZING. Glad to see Vince has been willing to put things in the past and move on. BTW, Kurt's never looked better. I'm so glad WWE has announced he will have DVD next year.
I couldn't believe how great the Matt/Jeff storyline was. It was SOOOO personal with Matt being jealous of Jeff and all the attention he's gotten and Matt even going as far as to say that Jeff DESERVED all the shit that's happened to him. OUCH. That Backlash match was GREAT.
Good list Daniel, but you left out one GREAT match that happened this year that surely should be on there......
No Rock/Cena from WM25? **Winks**
Posted By: Brian (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 03:38 AM
10. Styles vs. Joe: TNA World Championship
Winner = Joe
9. Morrison v. Cena: WWE Heavyweight Championship
Winner = Cena
8. MVP v. Christian Cage (yes he keeps the name) v. Bourne v. Mr. Kennedy v. Miz v. Kofi
Winner = MVP
7. Benjamin v. Bourne: US Title Ladder Match
Winner = Benjamin
6. Christian Cage v. Edge World Heavyweight Title
Winner = Christian Cage
5. Styles v. Joe v. Angle v. Booker T v. Alex Shelley: King of the Mountain TNA World Title
Winner = AJ Styles
4. HHH v. Orton v. Batista: WWE Heavyweight Championship
Winner = Orton
3. Hardy v. Hardy: Last Man Standing
Winner = Matt Hardy
2. Joe v. Styles v. Daniels: TNA World Title "The Rubber Match"
Winner = Christopher Daniels
1. Taker v. HBK: Wrestlemania XXV
Winner = HBK sending another great into retirement
Posted By: Kevin (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 03:50 AM
Wait, TNA is still a company? I forgot. When's their show on again?
Posted By: T.J. (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 03:51 AM
There are no TNA and ROH matches since both of them will fold around January 15th.
Posted By: wwe universe (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 05:05 AM
has anyone else noticed that 2009 hasnt happened yet?
Posted By: cenaisgay (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 06:24 AM
matt hardy vs christian-street fight
Posted By: jd (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 06:31 AM
Of course no TNA or ROH matches. You need to become a viable promotion before you can have something considered a top 10 match.
Agh i hate TNA and ROH marks
Posted By: AlexXx (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 07:51 AM
Two years in the making? Try TEN years in the making. Think about it, Royal Rumble Undertaker throws HBK out of the ring onto the casket. Shawn hurts his back and is soon gone for 4 years. HBK needs revenge, and taking his undefeated streak at WM would do just that.
Posted By: Champ (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 08:08 AM
What a waste. Another WWE mark with some sleepinducing matches. No Roh or TNA matches huh?
Posted By: Guest#7963 (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:31 PM
TNA can't be arsed and ROH doesn't deserve a Top 10 Matches, they aren't even on TV.
Posted By: Some Mark (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 08:52 AM
Good article.
I wouldn't have put TNA or ROH on the list either.
Posted By: Probes (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 10:22 AM
This should have been renamed "Top 10 WWE matches" .. and for those of your who are so far up the WWE's arse that you can't recognise other promotions, then grow up.
Posted By: kliq316 (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Tell you what, I'll put up a Top 10 list of TNA matches and tell me which list would be better....
10) Jeff Jarrett vs. Samoa Joe for the World Title (September 2009)
9) Homicide vs. Alex Shelley for the X Division title (Destination X)
8) Christopher Daniels/AJ Styles vs. MCMG (Victory Road)
7) MCMG vs. LAX vs. Team 3D vs. Beer Money (Impact May 2009)
6) Samoa Joe vs. Matt Morgan (Final Resolution)
5) AJ Styles vs. Jeff Jarrett (Hard Justice)
4) Kurt Angle vs. Sting (Slammiversary)
3) Christopher Daniels vs. Kurt Angle (May 2009)
2) TNA Frontline vs. MEM (Lockdown 2009)
1) Samoa Joe vs. AJ Styles for the World Title (Bound for Glory 2009)
Posted By: Ryder (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM
HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN!!!! WWE SUCKS AND THEY NEED HOGAN!!!!
Posted By: jon caplan (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM
You forgot Mickie James vs Gail Kim at Wrestlemania!
Posted By: Dr J (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 11:47 AM
As evidenced by this list it's obvious that the dreaded 'old guys' like 'Taker (the clear WOTY), Michaels and even Trips still have what it takes to carry the company. Now with Angle back in the mix I'm so pumped for 2010. It could turn out to be WWE's best year in over half a decade.
The only thing disappointing about your list is no Morrison vs. Michaels from Raw in July. That was one of the best free TV matches in years. Way better then Michaels vs. Punk. It's a shame Morrison got hurt a few weeks later. Dude was on fire. I can't wait until he comes back. Michaels vs. Morrison 2010 MOTY. I'm calling it now!
Posted By: Guest#6132 (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Ive always thought an Undertaker/Jericho fued could be great, and am also suprised they have never crossed paths, even in a throw away tag match on raw or something
Posted By: ScottieD (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM
The best thing that could happen to the WWE in 2009 and beyond is to not resign RVD. ironic that so many idiots really want him back at the expense of younger, fresh talent who wouldn't get a chance to develop.
and those people mock TNA for doing the same thing.
I would rather see three new people try and fail than see RVD come back and those three never even get a shot.
and please, god...someone retire HBK from the ring and put him back into a commissioner or GM role. he is starting to push the limits of legend and slowing turning into 'shadow of former self.' he doesn't need to Ric Flair his legacy.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Registered) on December 31, 2008 at 12:24 PM
no one gives a fuck about TNA
Posted By: hound89 (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 12:39 PM
ok so maybe he forgot to type "TOP WWE MATCHES OF 2009"... whatever... keep crying.
Posted By: Guest#9706 (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 12:42 PM
you did pretty well last year so good luck
Posted By: Jeremy from Palmdale (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 12:43 PM
HBK-Taker Scenario) After numerous high spots, finishers, and near falls, Shawn will kick out just AFTER the 3 count, after getting hit by a 3rd tombstone, at 25:18 (WM 25, 18th win for Taker), then a post-match staredown and handshake to close out WrestleMania 25
Posted By: CJ (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 01:05 PM
New Years prediction: TNA & ROH will put on great matches, but no more than 3% of the wrestling audience will care.
Honestly, I can't watch ROH....every match is the same. Wrestlers under 5'10 and 180 pounds....having crazy spot fest matches from match one all the way to the end. It gets repetative after a while. That's why most people don't care....most people like variety.
TNA has some good ideas, but it's mostly outweighed by the stupid gimmicks they keep shoving down our throats. TNA should go the way of the attitude era or original ECW to get away from the WWE and at least be different. And they have to stop saying TNA is growing...blah blah blah....you're not a fucking baby anymore...act like a real company.
WWE is the best company at the moment...things can change as they have proven in the past, but the other companies need a lot of work to make that happen.
Posted By: Got Pop? (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 01:36 PM
WWE is the best at the moment? HA!
Posted By: JJ (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 02:07 PM
Unfortunately, I think McMahonagement is building towards Shawn Michaels/Useless Bradshaw at WrestleMania, unless they want to prolong HBK's "forced Heel Turn" well into 2009. Decent angle loosely based around "The Wrestler" (and if booked correctly, the crowd should be hot for it) but I'm not even sure "Mr. WrestleMania" can carry Useless Bradshaw to a ****+ match at Mania. The final blowoff match will probably be underwhealming, much like HBK VS Vince himself at WM 22.
So if Michaels is tied up at WrestleMania in a McMahonagement-driven feud, who does Taker face? I think this column came up with a GREAT IDEA (and it's NOT the EXTREMELY PREDICTABLE Taker/Umaga feud McMahonagement will probably try to shove down our throats): The Undertaker against Chris Jericho, First Time Ever (on PPV) as a "RAW VA SmackDown!" Interpromotional match.
The setup would be VERY SIMPLE: on the RAW after No Way Out Chris Jericho (frusterated after losing out on a WWE Title opportunity) makes an Open Challenge to "someone on the SmackDown! roster who has the guts", and the following Friday on SmackDown The Undertaker would answer it. From there the feud could write itself, with Jericho guaranteeing to end The Streak and playing up the fact that "the only reason The Undertaker is undefeated at WrestleMania is because he NEVER faced me!" and Taker doing his usual light tricks during Jericho's Promos. For Taker/Jericho at WrestleMania to REALLY stand out though, Jericho would take things a step further in his Promos: playing up the fact that Taker "isn't getting any younger" and "can't beat Father Time" to the point where Undertaker actually EXPRESSES DOUBT about how much longer he can keep this up.
This would give Taker/Jericho an extra special "Is This The Year The Streak Ends?" feel going into their first ever PPV encounter at WrestleMania. Of course, Taker would still win, but perhaps with a weak rollup "out of nowhere" (after Jericho survives a Last Ride, Tombstone, Triangle Choke, and starts mounting a comeback) that would be followed by a Jericho Beatdown to kick off the REAL feud.
Posted By: Guest#0044 (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 02:25 PM
and the Slammy for "People who make lame comments and not back it up" goes to JJ.
Posted By: Got Pop? (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 02:41 PM
here is a ridiculous exclusion of Dolph Ziggler in this article.
Posted By: Guest#3422 (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 02:56 PM
has anyone else noticed that 2009 hasnt happened yet?
Posted By: cenaisgay (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 06:24 AM
Great, now I have to fix all those checks I wrote...
I predict that Chuck Taylor and Fire Ant will finally get that big paycheck, getting signed to WWE to feud with Edge and Christian.
I also predict that monkeys will fly out my butt.
Posted By: Ryan W. (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 03:05 PM
what a jerk off waste of time.
Posted By: Adrian (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 03:22 PM
This is the worst article ever. Don't you guys have anything better to write about.
Posted By: Dick Rambert (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 04:01 PM
Lol i love the whinning that the tna marks do. Um isn't your show about to get kicked off the air by Time warner? Thus decreasing your already slow raitings? And i would also like to see Mickie James vs Gail kim at wrestlemania. Maybe Trish Stratus being special guest refree. And Lita be in the match somewhat. And have an old Lita vs Trish feud for one night
Posted By: johnny (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 04:30 PM
So a 47 year old Taker is going to have his best year ever? Yeah I really doubt that.
The following was posted by got pop?
"Honestly, I can't watch ROH....every match is the same. Wrestlers under 5'10 and 180 pounds....having crazy spot fest matches from match one all the way to the end. It gets repetative after a while. That's why most people don't care....most people like variety."
You mean variety as in every wrestler on the WWE roster who does the same 5 moves throughout every match then then hits a weak looking finisher. That comment is so stupid I'm willing to bet you haven't seen more than 10 ROH matches ,and if one was a Brian Danielson match it probably went over your head.
WWE has a few wrestlers I find entertaining(Jericho,Rey,HBK,Kendrick) but for the most part it's like all those guys were rolled off an assembley line pre programed to work the same style. Variety? ha!
Posted By: jcmmnx (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Why is no one booking HHH vs Undertaker Hell in a Cell???
Posted By: BuDDyLighT021 (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 05:39 PM
Actually jcmmnx, I have seen quite a few ROH matches. Including being there live for the "At Our Best" event in NJ with the scramble cage matches. I thought that was a great event, but to see the same thing over and over again I probably would get pretty bored, along with most of the population.
I've worked for 2 indy feds for over 5 years, including one that had "The man with the greatest beard in pro-wrestling" Bryan Danielson...I've even interviewed him on camera. I think the guy is great! But when you take him, and most of the ROH roster, they all do crazy moves...from the first match to the last match. What's to seperate them and make them different? Nothing other than their names really.
Posted By: Got Pop? (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 06:06 PM
All WWE matches. Wilcox you are such a MARK! Just like Madden and Brett Farve.
Posted By: WTF? (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 06:32 PM
I love the WWE and only the WWE all other promotions are garbage. Vince please hire me. Please I will do anything for you, "Anything" *wink wink*
Posted By: Daniel Wilcox (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 06:39 PM
Benjamin vs Undertaker is a better match possibility and WILL be a better match than everyone on that list except for possibly Jericho and Undertaker. Shawn vs Taker was something that should never be revisited after Rumble '98...not with Shawn being played like a fucking bum who's getting raped by JBL every week on television.
Posted By: Erik (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 07:43 PM
haha fun concept man... number 8 seemed out of place.. maybe if it was a TLC
Posted By: chad (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 10:21 PM
so who was the winner of taker and michaels?
Posted By: k-money (Guest) on December 31, 2008 at 10:48 PM
The TNA Match wishlist Ryder made is more likely and a better one than the writer of this column made.
And no Time Warner isn't kicking TNA off their show. TNA isn't in direct competition with WWE but it is obvious that they are influencing them. The Women's Division anyone?
Posted By: Talon (Guest) on January 01, 2009 at 04:19 AM
this is for Got Pop?
You said in your post that ROH lacked variety and that's why you don't like them. Well I'm asking you to explain to me how WWE has more variety than ROH.
ROH has great mat wrestling with Danielson,Nigel,Aries,Lynn etc. They have wrestlers who are regularly in exiting brawling matches(Necro, Strong,Jacobs,Briscoes). They have a great tag division that regularly produces great matches. They bring in top Japanese talent ,and let them shine.They have as you've metioned 180lbers how fly all over the place. They even have some good comedy with the undercard guys(Titus,Grizz,Dempsey).
So now I would like to hear your argument as to how WWE has more variety(despite having no tag division, no cruiser weight div, and a bunch of overgrown slugs for wrestlers).
Posted By: jcmmnx (Guest) on January 01, 2009 at 12:40 PM
No fucking chance #8 is even in WWEs radar
Posted By: Guest#0632 (Guest) on December 30, 2008 at 11:26
I would second that, but there WAS that odd Fatal 4 Way for the same belts last year at GAB, plus MnM Pt.II have been given plenty of time to shine...so never say never.
For everyone looking for any Top Match lists un-WWE...try, I don't know, other sites that offer that, or check other columnists here...it's not that hard to look.
Posted By: B.W.G. (Guest) on January 02, 2009 at 01:26 AM
Fatal Four Way for the WWE Tag Team Championship Carlito and Primo vs. Miz and Morrison vs. The Brian Kendrick and Ezekiel Jackson vs. Jesse and Festus (SmackDown, March 2009)
If that's the 8th best match of the year, then that is one sad year for wrestling. An all-time low.
Posted By: Guest#5178 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 03:43 PM