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Wrestling’s 4R’s Friday Edition 01.02.09: Raw and ECW on Sci-Fi Reviewed!
Posted by Larry Csonka on 01.02.2009



How the 4R's of wRestling Work!
Here is a quick explanation of the 4R's. The column will run TWO times a week. On Tuesdays I will discuss TNA Impact and Jeremy will discuss WWE Smackdown. Also, if there is a PPV, that will be covered in this column as well. The column will run again on Friday's, covering WWE Raw (with Jeremy Thomas) as well as ECW on Sci-Fi. If there is a PPV that weekend, I will also run the RETRO R's of the show from the year before as well as address some comments when time permits. I will group my feelings on the shows in various categories: The Right, the wRong and the Ridiculous. The Right is stuff that worked very well: a great promo, a great match and so on. PuRgatoRy is a section between the right and wrong. It shows equal traits from both sides that cannot be ignored and need discussed. It is not a bad place per say, as things can get remedied or go the wrong way the very next week. The wRong is what it sounds like: bad matches, bad or boring promos and so on. The Ridiculous is stuff that had no right on TV: Stupid angles, Diva searches and so on. And there is always a possibility of a 5th R, which is as bad as they come, unless you are TNA. They have a special R all of their own, the 6th R; the Russo-FN-Riffic~! This column is supposed to be analytical, and at the right time very critical of the shows, it was the whole reason it was created. This is not a "mark" column, nor a "smark" column, my goal is to analyze the show from many different fronts, reward the good and call out the bad. I will not apologize for my opinions, they are as they are, whether positive or negative.




By: Jeremy Thomas


Raw 12.29.08

  • Hello, dear readers, and welcome to the last R's of '08…or rather, the first R's of '09, as it turns out to be. If I could take just one moment to be sentimental, I would like to thank all of you readers for hanging out with us as we praised, poked fun at, and flat-out bitched about our weekly doses of wrestling. As much as I like to gripe, moan, and be a snarky asshole in the "Comment Time" section, you guys are the reason why I'm here, and you've all helped make this column what it is, in one way or another. Thanks for reading, and here's a lot of R's in 2009!

  • The Right:

    REY REY GIVES SHAWN A CHANCE, KNOX DOESN'T RETURN THE FAVOR: As the last Raw of the year began, little Rey Rey was already in the ring. He recaps how he got screwed by Shawn in his match against JBL and even gave us a video recap of it. Rey called Shawn to the ring, telling him that he respects him and knew what he was a good person, and wanted a match with Shawn so he could have a chance to re-earn his spot in the Fatal Four-Way. Shawn accepted…but wait, we're not done! JBL came out and overrode Shawn's decision, since all career decisions go through him now. JBL then ordered HBK out of the ring, drawing out Shawn's Sad Panda face before he headed off; Mountain Man Mike Knox then attacked Rey Rey from behind and JBL prevented Shawn from helping him. Luckily for Rey, Cena is NOT JBL's employee and thus was able to come down and make the save. Now that I think of it, I think this angle would be far more amusing if Cena was in Shawn's role. This was a bit long and seemed…not bad, but disjointed. They were trying to string a lot of things along and pack a lot into this segment, and they certainly didn't fail. Shawn and JBL did their parts well enough, though I've noticed that Rey Rey's speaking style has somehow become more stilted over the past year or so. He used to talk just a bit more naturally. This all moved toward something bigger, and so despite the disjoined feel it gets a spot just on the Right list.

    THAT'S AN IMPRESSION?: Cena was backstage with hot Stephanie McMahon, how offered Cena a spot at commentary for the Fatal Four-Way match. Cena proceeded to give several impressions, including what I'm told is a Harry Carey impression; I couldn't tell, frankly. He bitched about how lame it was going to be and got in an Adamle burn on top of it. He then proposed a match with himself, Rey, and whoever else against Mountain Man Mike and whoever else. Cena was being moderately funny here until he went all joke-emotional, at which point he became funnier. This was Cena doing his Cena thing and setting up the match later; I have no problems with that.

    GOLDY'S BEING GOLDY: I know, I know, you all love Goldust. He showed up with a Santa hat on to give a Christmas Rhyme about all the presents the ‘E's stars were getting. I'll admit, this was actually moderately funny; something about the phrase "a Boggle for Hornswaggle" made me chuckle. The Cody/Dad reference wasn't bad, and who couldn't love the idea of Monopoly for ‘H? The irony is great. He called out Santino, which is apparently the new feud. I'm skeptical of how good that'll be, but this segment was all sorts of good, so Dustin gets a pass from me this week.

    SIM SNUKA vs. SUPERFLY JIMMY HAAS: Snuka was already in the ring as we went into this match, apparently with brand new entrance music. Good for him! His Legacy tryout match was against what is truly Charlie's best impersonation to date. Forget CBL, forget Santa, forget the Glamahaas. Superfly Jimmy Haas was great, and Charlie was playing it to the max as always. The match itself may not have been great and (like many matches) didn't get much time, but Haas did a nice job putting over the former Deuce. Helping to make us forget Deuce is no mean feat, and they actually took a step toward that, so I'm okay with it. This totally would have earned a stronger Right if Haas had found a way to keep the wig on, though.

    TEN MAN TAG TEAM ACTION: This, coming off the opening segment and the Cena/Steph bit, turned out to be Cena, Rey Rey, Kofi and Cryme Tyme vs. Mountain Man Mike, Hi-I'm-Dolph-Ziggler, Kane and MnM 2.0. The level of personal issues in this match are astounding…most of them revolving around Kane. This was a match that started off a bit slow, but picked up quickly after the commercial break when Kofi played the face-in-peril and gave the Miz a little bit of control; Rey then came in and cleaned house nicely. It was then his turn as the face-in-peril thanks to a nice little shot by Kane while Miz had Rey Rey on his shoulders; all the heels got their moment to shine here. Of course it was hot tag time from here to Cena and all hell broke loose, leading to Cena and Kofi hitting a somersault leg drop/five-finger shuffle combo on Dolph and Mike for a really fun moment. Cena then FU'd Mountain Man Mike so Rey Rey could hit a splash for the pin. This was just a lot of fun and gave Rey some heat back in his feud with Knox while letting everyone put on their best faces to send '08 off. Great stuff all in all, and I approve.

    RANDY ORTON IS A PIMP. THAT IS ALL: Seriously, was there ANY better way to get Orton over as a hated heel than to let us know that he nailed Triple K like we all want to? Apparently, Orton hit it and tossed her aside; I'm pretty sure this officially makes him an uber-pimp, and this was all-around great stuff. Orton was as great as he always is as the utter dick, while Kelly actually showed less of a stilted delivery than usual. Somehow, I see a Kane choke slam in Randy's future; this could actually lead to something good for Triple K. We'll have to see.

    FATAL FOUR-WAY AWESOMENESS: This brought us to the main event of the night, the Fatal Four-Way for the title shot at the Royal Rumble. I'll start off by saying it was nice to see the return of JBL's limo…apparently whatever JBL's paying Shawn isn't so much that he's got to short his entrance any. Joking aside, I liked that touch as it reminds us just how rich Bradshaw is, and thus maybe he can afford Shawn. This started off good and stayed that way throughout the match; we had three great guys in the ring and one...well, three great guys and JBL, and everyone brought their A-game for the match. The crowd was super-into it from start to finish. Of course, the main story here and where all teh dramaz were was in JBL and Shawn, and the bit with them one-upping each other against Jericho was pretty great stuff and yet still kept Shawn consistent with being loyal to his employer. It was interesting to hear Randy getting the cheers while he was in there against JBL, who was better than usual for the record. Try as Orton might, he was no match for the other two, and the booking managed to handle the eliminations really well without burying anyone until the end. This match got a hell of a lot of time and really did a great job of storytelling throughout; kudos to all involved.

    Now, the ending would be one you'd expect me to bitch about. No doubt, I'm still not behind this storyline between Shawn and JBL. But as long as I can put that aside, I can admit that this was good storytelling and did a nice job of getting the fans really into the whole thing. Shawn put on his Sad Panda face, and one really wanted him to just give it up and superkick the crap out of JBL here. It didn't happen of course, but it still kept Shawn somewhat strong as he refused to just lay down; he forced JBL to Clothesline him to Hell for the win. My issues with the storyline aside, this was a good ending to a great match and a really strong way to end the show. I absolutely see Shawn "accidentally" costing his boss the win at the Rumble, then turning on him at No Way Out to head into a WrestleMania match, and if that's the way they go I'll give this storyline a thumbs up.


  • puRgatoRy:

    THE LEGACY IS TESTED: Randy Orton was sitting backstage with his protégés Sim, Manu and Cody, and proceeded to talk about how the Legacy would be bigger than the Horsemen, D-X and Evolution. Some high hopes from the Tattoo Killer, eh? The gist of this was that each of them had matches, and they had to win them or they would be out. This segment was what it was, almost too short to even talk much about except to say that Orton was his usual quality self and I'd like to see more talking from the three younger guys in the group. What I wanted to focus on here was the results of the matches. After they punked out and "injured" Batista, the Legacy's been on a roll—Manu's losses notwithstanding. It's looked like maybe the booking team was really behind them. This week was not a good indication of that. Sim and Cody won their matches, albeit Sim against the always-beatable Haas and Cody by count out when Regal interfered; not exactly stunning victories. Of course, Manu lost, which continues his role as the JOB Squatter of the Legacy; does this mean he's out? Honestly, I doubt it, because one other guy lost his match, and that's Orton. If Manu points this out next week and keeps his spot, I'm giving the Samoan mad props. However, this week it's about Legacy and how they stumbled, which is not particularly good. I realize that these new guys can't just run roughshod over the entire roster, but give them a chance…otherwise, you're going to remind us all that these are the guys who got bitch-slapped on a regular bases as Priceless in mid-'08.

    SIX DIVA BATTLE ROYALE: Well, this had all sorts of opportunity to suck ass. Don't get me wrong—because based on recent weeks, I'm sure some Diva-loving commenter will take me to task if I don't say it—I do love the Raw Divas. But the ladies have never given us a particularly pleasant Battle Royale. There's too many ladies for me to go through individually, so I'll just say that for this week…Triple K—hot. Melina—UBER-hot. Mickie—a little less hot them usual, but still hot. Candice and Jillian—yeah, still not so much. It was nice to see Katie Lea get an elimination, although I have to feel bad for Candice for getting the jobber elimination at #1. After the typically awkward opening moments, they got KKK and Candice out, then things picked up. Jillian and Katie were quickly knocked out, leaving Melina and Mickie. They had that friendly rivalry thing going on and for their limited time did something not terrible; the ending was pretty nice with the attempt to leapfrog by Mickie into the kick to give Melina the win. Beth then got into the ring and started to brawl before Rosa the Crazy Superfan got involved and saved Beth. I'll dig on Beth vs. Melina all day, and the stalker stuff is played out but not handled too bad thus far. This loses a lot of points for the match itself, which despite the tolerable ending moments was still rushed and too short, but gains most of them back for the win sequence and the stalker stuff. And, of course, for Santino and Beth's commentary, which was once again great.

    JERICHO: JERK OF THE YEAR: T-Grish was backstage with Chris Jericho and started to ask him a question, but Our Savior cut him off and pointed out how he was the ‘E Magazine's Jerk of the Year. Jericho pointed out the hypocrisy of the fans and how he was the only one holding to his promises. The gist was, we were the jerks. This was what you'd expect from a Y2J promo, except that it just seemed to be rehashing the same stuff Jericho always says. As a result, we got nothing new and I have to actually put a Jericho promo in puRgatoRy. Sorry Chris, there just wasn't any point to this one, unless it was to sell more copies of the mag.


  • The wRong:

    CODY RHODES vs. CM PUNK: You know, I had a bad feeling coming into this match. On one hand, it was make it or break it night for the Legacy, which meant Cody could be in for trouble; on the other, CM Punk's been treading water in the mid-card. They locked it up…and had a pretty meh sort of match. It wasn't wRong, it was just lacking and wasn't given enough time. They tried with the time they were given, but this stayed slow throughout and was never able to pick it up. Of course, the second we saw Regal come down to the ring, we knew this was going to end with him interfering. This is the thing that pissed me off about the match; yes, I understand trying to protect Punk and yet wanting to give Cody the win. However, a count out win because Regal was able to distract Punk doesn't help Cody one iota, and it just makes Punk look fucking stupid. They couldn't even bother to get Regal physically involved until after the match? This was just a dumb-ass ending to the match and it dragged it into the wrong. I also think that putting Punk and Regal in a match as early as next week is too soon, and they should do more to make it a meaningful feud, but we'll see how that goes.

    MANU vs. MATT HARDY: You know, I was actually surprised when I heard "Manu" chants at during the segment that preceded it. Someone actually likes Manu enough to chant for him? Wow. Really though, this was a pretty shit match. Matt tried, but Manu is just too generic and nothing of significance in the ring; I can't help but wonder if they're burying Manu specifically because they've realized he's not ready to hang with the rest of the Legacy. Manu's got the attitude down, but the look and the sharpness in the ring just aren't there, and as much as Matt tried this was just a bad piece of business. Not much else to say here.


  • The Ridiculous:

    DID YOU KNOW?: Okay, seriously, quit it already.


    The 411


    The two matches given a fair amount of time saved this show. Anything else in the Right was barely there or just kinda of "okay, that wasn't bad." I'm not too fond of the way the Legacy was treated this episode and rest of the matches were middling-to-poor quality, leaving us with a filler episode outside of the Shawn/Bradshaw storyline. This was just a step down from previous Raws when it was all said and done, but certainly not a total waste.

    SHOW RATING: **¾


    COMMENT TIME WITH JEREMY!

    From Guest #2120:
    "However, if you think the bikini contests are over, I submit to you that you're full of shit. Look at Survivor Series. While there were Raw ladies in that too, the fact is that they've stacked the Raw roster with the more talented wrestlers and left the SD division to die in mediocrity, and that's an undeniable fact."

    The bikini contests are done. There hasn't been a single one in months. Nor has there been any sort of "strip the other girl to win" match. Women's matches on Raw and Smackdown are straight wrestling matches and have been since after WrestleMania.

    Raw hasn't been doing much of anything with most of their women in the last few months. Smackdown has regularly been giving their women more time to wrestle than the Raw women and more storylines as Beth has barely done anything with the women's title in the last four months while McCool worked with three different opponents for the Divas title. I'm more interested in what they've been doing with the Smackdown divas than Raw's.


    Actually, the last modeling contest was at Cyber Sunday (I called it Survivor Series but I was a pay-per-view off), which was two months ago. So I guess that does qualify for what you're saying in the plural months as opposed to singular. Still, not the length of time I think you were implying. No, it wasn't bikinis, but tell me that this picture is intended to be about taking women's wrestling seriously:



    Thank you for giving me the opportunity to post that pic though. As for your statement that they've all been "straight wrestling matches" since WrestleMania, let's see...

    * May 6 ECW: Triple K brings back the Extreme Expose for one night.
    * July 4 SmackDown: Michelle beat Triple K, Victoria, Cherry & Maryse in a Golden Dreams (read: star on a pole) match.
    * August 8 SmackDown: Natalya, Victoria & Maryse beat Michelle, Maria & Cherry in a match where they were all dressed in "Olympic" (read: Hot Fantasy) Outfits. Maria was even dressed as a SKIIER. For the SUMMER OLYMPICS.
    * October 17 SmackDown: Maria beat Maryse, Natalya, Victoria and Brie Bella in a Divas Las Vegas (read; Fuzzy Dice on a Pole) match

    That was all just off the top of my head, all after WrestleMania. And while I'm just counting matches here, let's be honest. Everything about the Divas is about sex appeal. Why do they put those stars and dice on poles? Because we all love seeing those ladies stretch their bodies out to reach for it. I'm not saying that the SD crew is completely talentless, and I never even implied such. Simply that the Divas are the sex appeal brand of the women's division and as such, they should look appropriately good doing it until their in-ring skills match up. Thanks for reading!


    My Name IS Kizarny:
    KIZARNY fuckin ROCKS !!!!!

    The guy is nothing but gold

    A/ He has a distinctive personality and odd charisma

    If one thing is terrifically tough to get in the E it's not the wrestling ability BUT the ability to talk and to have something "special" and TO ME this Sinn Bowdie HAS IT.

    B/ He has a great finisher (Double Underhook DDT with legs on his opponent's chest for extra damage = GOLD)

    C/ His real life connection with one Adam "Edge" Copeland could lead to a new stable or some sort of special relationship

    D/ He is very reminiscent of one young EDGE when he started out back in 1999 as a partner of Gangrel

    All in all he is far far far more exciting than all the lame, bland new wrestlers a la Curt Hawkins and Zach Ryder of this world


    Yes, he's got a distinctive personality, I'll give you that. He may well have a great finisher...my point is that with all these shitty vignettes, we haven't SEEN it yet. He doesn't remind me of Edge in the slightest, and I don't think his friendship with Edge will go anywhere, at least not for a while, because he's not the sort of gimmick that works in well with Rated-R; far too one-note. That would be the equivalent of them throwing Vansen at Taker right off the bat, and...well, that didn't happen. As for his talking skills, I won't give him an inch of credit until he stizops wizith thize stuizupid shizit. How the hell is he gonna cut a legibly promo during a feud with that crap? Anyway, I want to see him in the ring. Hopefully we'll not be disappointed with all the build-up.

    From HBK fan:
    There is no one on this planet worse than Maryse.

    She makes Maria look like Kurt angle.

    Hopefully , her injury is pretty bad.

    If she returns quickly , hope she has a neck injury.

    I can't help it.

    I hate her with a passion.


    Wow, really? You're pretty fucked up, dude, and may want to check into a shrink if you wish major injuries on people you see on television. Thanks for reading!

    From Christy:
    Larry, stop PMS-ing when your readers make sense. Mistakes in roster selection cannot be directly attributed to having future bikini contests. Maybe straight up bad wrestling matches, but not what you mentioned.

    Calling guest's opinion as shit and then vehemently defending your level of idiocy seems sort of lame.

    You'll probably PMS over this one and grab that dictionary from Jake Chambers' dirty fingers. Or not.

    Approve this comment. Or not.

    Just thought you should know that you are getting close to being the McMahon of IWC.


    Actually, I'M becoming the McMahon of the IWC, thank you very much, because I posted it. Somehow, I'm going to guess that suddenly you aren't blindly considering it "idiocy." Either that or I've finally gotten enough of Larry's heat to be a heel all on my own, as you clearly didn't read the various back-and-forths that have gotten us to this point. I never said that bikini matches were attributable to anything. But hey, if blind hate works for you, then go with it...just keep on clickin'. Thanks!

    From 17:
    McCool vs Maryse in the right! WTF! That match featured a woman who can't wrestle beating a woman who can barely wrestle for a title. That's right, the WWE had a title contested between two of the worst women on their entire roster. The only place this shit belongs is in the ridiculous column.


    Two of the worst women on their entire roster? 17, I'd like to introduce you to the "Best of Kelly Kelly and Layla" DVD. Tell me when you're ready to gouge your eyes out and take it all back. Maryse isn't great, but she's improving and is far better than half of the women on the roster currently, especially in regards to the weak-ass Butterfly division. Hey, I'd have rather seen Victoria or Natalya too, but what are you gonna do?

    From Freakzilla:
    I was at a live event and say Kizary wrestle.

    The man sucks! Horribly! he was wrestling like Kelly Kelly back in her ECW days! he had a cool finisher DDT into a roll up, but other than that he was horrible!


    Freakzilla vs. My Name Is Kizarney in a Kizarney on a Pole match at the next TNA Pay-Per-View! Book it, Russo!

    And an email from Dacinder:
    First off I gotta say this is a long comment, but I really wanted to show you my side of the HBK/JBL storyline. I hope you take the time to read it, i've been really thinking about it. Second I want to say I truly respect your opinion on matches and storyline. But hear me out on the HBK/JBL storyline. Now in my most humble of opinions, I think what makes a storyline is not one with just great acting and great storytelling in the matches, but one where you don't know what will happen next. Now Jericho/HBK was a great feud, don't get me wrong. But you knew shawn was going to do 3 things. Build Jericho heel status up, win a mid feud match, and ultimately job to jericho at the end. It's like a wash, spin, repeat storyline with Michaels in a sense. He did that for Batista, and Orton, and Cena, and HHH and so on. In a sense you know what's going to happen each week, shawn gets mad, shawn hits chin music, opponent retaliates, shawn takes it personal, gets even more pissed, shawn wins a few, shawn eventually loses the feud.

    Now, this is what makes HBK/JBL feud so damn good now. You don't know what's going to happen week in week out. You ask yourself this question every week: When is shawn going to drop JBL with the music? How much will shawn take? How far will he go with his loyalty with JBL? Granted the feud started off slow and really didn't make sense. But since the E' explained other details like why shawn won't borrow money from friends. It's gotten a lot better. A good example of why this fued can be really good is 12/29 raw. I MEAN HOW GREAT WAS THAT!? The final 5 minutes of that match with JBL and HBK was better than the match. JBL looking down at the mat, pointing at it for shawn to get on the ground, HBK hesitating, the audience on their feet really into it, chanting "HBK!" and "JBL SUCKS!". Several times I thought HBK was going to hit the music. Even at the end when shawn closed his eyes and told JBL to hit him instead of just taking the pin, I thought JBL was gonna go for the Clothesline from hell, come off the rope and get hit with Sweet Chin Music. Simply... Awesome. You didn't know how that would swing at any given moment till the end. The crowd was emotionally in it because you saw them throwing their drinks in the ring at the end. When's the last time that happen in this recent era of wrestling with all the smarks around? Now comes the Element of how this will play with Cena at the Rumble. This is Great storytelling in my most HUMBLE of opinions. What Do you think JT? Please respond in your comment section on the R's or email me.


    Well, obviously I'm responding, and thanks for the email Dacinder. You make a great point in that this feud is very different than the standard "Shawn Michaels vs. X" feud that we've seen over the years. It's true that we don't know what's going to happen next, and that does make for some very intriguing television...to a degree. Honestly, I had a pretty good idea he'd be forced to help JBL win a match ot two, but still, it's gone in directions one wouldn't necessarily expect, and I applaud them for that.

    My big problems with the feud are myriad and have been discussed at length; while it is great storytelling in a certain aspect, I think it's trying too hard to be topical--both with the current economic state and with The Wrestler hitting theaters, and whether Vince likes the movie or not, it's obviously not stopping him from utilizing it to a degree even as he mocks it on WWE.com. I also think that it's giving Shawn an excuse to go into Sad Panda face too much, and the logistical aspects of it just don't work out; how much can JBL really pay Shawn that it's worth all this? More than Shawn's current contract and enough to make up for life savings being flushed down the toilet? I doubt it. There have been individual aspects of this that I've appreciated, and as I said in this weeks Wrestling's Top 5 column I could see where this is going in a good way, but that could well be fantasy booking on my part. If this angle turns around as it might just be starting to do, I'll be the first to jump on board as I'm a huge fan of HBK. We'll have to see where it goes; thanks for reading, and for the email!






    By: Larry Csonka


    ECW 12.30.08:

  • Much like Jeremy, I would like to thank you all as we enter another year here at the 411. 2008 was a great year for the site, and just know that we are going to work harder to make 2009 even better.

    Also my apologies for the lack of answering feedback. We're getting the Year End awards all set, plus I am getting my usual end of year stuff set. Add that onto running the site and time is limited.

    Anyway, thanks for reading and I hope your 2009 kicks ass!


  • The Right:

    Paul Burchill w/Katie Lea vs. DJ Gabriel w/Alicia Fox: In what may seem very odd, I think that I enjoyed this the most of anything on the show, and for some good reasons. First of all Katie Lea and Paul Burchill have been moved to the ECW brand. I like this because Paul Burchill was completely lost on Raw, outside of his status as a job guy, and was going nowhere fast. While on the surface Katie may suffer, with Raw and ECW working together, she will still be able to be a viable part of the Women's Division, if and when they choose to use her. Gabriel and Fox are a fun duo, but they need something to do, and with Burchill coming to ECW, it solves two problems, as now both men have something to do. While the crowd response to the match wasn't what the company wanted, it is their fault as they have done nothing to make anyone care about Burchill and Gabriel is still new. They had a fine little match here, and Paul Burchill actually got to work a competitive match, which is a change for him. As I said, a good match and the finish was perfect, because Gabriel got the win, but didn't win decisively. This leaves the door open for a rematch or possible mixed tag in the coming weeks. This gives all four something to do, if the properly follow up, so for this week, this gets the right treatment.


  • puRgatoRy:

    The Dirt Sheet: ECW kicked off with the DIRT SHEET this week, and when it was all said and done, it was a good/bad situation. The good was that it was the DIRT SHEET, and Miz and Morrison got to do what they do best, be themselves and be wacky. They put themselves over as the greatest team of the 21st century and followed that up by saying that The Dirt Sheet was the best talk show of 2008. From there wackiness ensued as Miz discussed adding one of his hats to the Smithsonian, while Morrison wanted to work on his 11th and 12th abs coming to life. These are great men. From there they discussed the goals of other WWE stars, "Evan Bourne will move out of his mom's basement. John Cena will taking acting lessons so his next movie doesn't suck. Batista will wear a helmet to the ring so he doesn't get another concussion. Finlay will stop wearing tighty whities so that his next kid isn't a midget". This brought out Finlay and the midget, who screamed on the mic, they played chase, the Boogeyman appeared, and then he did his Boogeyman dance. This was all leading to a match with The Boogeyman and Finlay, and of course midget shenanigans. That is what I didn't like. They should be concerned with getting viable challengers for the Miz and Morrison, which this didn't do. Also, what the hell are they doing with Finlay? The man beats Mark Henry, CLEAN, on PPV, and they continue to do jack and shit with him. It is rather simple; you either place him into a title program with Hardy, or in a program with SWAGGA, who claims to be the #2 contender for the title. Instead, they continue to waste him and show no direction when it comes to him. That's a shame.

    Matt Hardy vs. Mark Henry: Part 674: You know it's funny, Mark Henry and Matt Hardy have actually developed a chemistry, and now work very well together. Anyway, for NO reason, we had yet ANOTHER Mark Henry vs. Matt Hardy match this week. They worked hard, got about 7½ minutes to do their thing, and it was fine. Jack SWAGGA would come down to the ring, dropped Hardy like a bad habit with the DOCTOR BOMB and stood tall. So the match was good, the finish is ok, but I had some issues. If they are going forward with Hardy vs. SWAGGA, then just let Hardy win. He's the champion and should look strong. This finish had Henry standing there with his thumb up his ass. Do the attack, but do it after a hard fought victory by Hardy, so that SWAGGA looks even more like a douche. And finally, I am sick and tired of both Hardy vs. Henry and Henry vs. Finlay. Can we PLEASE freshen things up?


  • The wRong:

    Non Title, No Disqualification Match: Finlay and The Boogeyman vs. John Morrison and The Miz: And now we come to the main event of the evening, and well, this was not good. It was supposed to be a "No Disqualification Match," and in reality, it was a 3 on 2-handicap match. I don't know about you, but besides the illegal midget, I don't see what was so "No Disqualification" about this match. Also, when a match is billed as a "No Disqualification Match," I expect, well, some more rule breaking. Weapons and such, but we got none of this, it was a glorified handicap match. The other thing is this; it wasn't very good. I was bored. Boogeyman is still the Boogeyman, which is not a good thing, and I just feel that this did not deliver at all. I won't say that they didn't work hard, because I am sure it did, but this didn't interest me at all. We'll chalk this up to a fail this week, which is pretty rare for ECW. I was disappointed.


  • The Ridiculous:

    Nothing


    The 411


    This week's edition of ECW was essentially a throw away episode. It lacked direction and felt throw together, all in bad ways. The wrestling was mediocre to BLAH, and it was actually a shore to watch. ECW is usually a focused show, with direction and the feeling that things are going somewhere. This week was the exact opposite of that. I don't know what happened, but they closed out the year on a sour note with me, and I just hope that things change when 2009 begins.

    SHOW RATING: *½





    And I'm out of here!




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    "Actually, the last modeling contest was at Cyber Sunday (I called it Survivor Series but I was a pay-per-view off), which was two months ago. So I guess that does qualify for what you're saying in the plural months as opposed to singular. Still, not the length of time I think you were implying. No, it wasn't bikinis, but tell me that this picture is intended to be about taking women's wrestling seriously:"

    But isn't that different from including T&A in their wrestling? A costume contest or a photo shoot is not exactly the same as holding a match in a giant bowl of pudding or defending the women's title in a match where one girl has to strip the other to win.

    Completely eliminating the sex appeal aspect isn't a good idea. It just needs to be kept seperate from the girls' wrestling matches and their storylines. WWE has been doing a pretty good job of that the last several months.

    It looks like they'll be keeping that trend going, too, because it's now January, and nothing has been said about a Diva in Playboy. It's becoming more and more likely that it won't be happening, therefore not being used as a reason for a WrestleMania match.


    Posted By: Guest#9380 (Guest)  on January 01, 2009 at 11:25 PM

     
     
    I don't know why everyone is set that HBK vs. JBL is gonna happen at Wrestlemania. Personally, I think JBL is going to lose the match at the Rumble on his own, and make Shawn give him his spot in the RR match DURING the match (maybe Shawn makes it to the final 6 and JBL's music hits). Shawn goes, but not before taking out the Undertaker, setting up that feud nicely. That way HBK/Taker can happen at Mania, Michaels can turn on Bradshaw during an episode of RAW and end up facing him at No Way Out.

    Posted By: Empire Of Ownage (Guest)  on January 01, 2009 at 11:29 PM

     
     
    The Gabriel-Burchill match was the cure for insomia. Gabriel has had better matches with jobbers. I'm fine with Burchill being moved to Ecw but boy was his first match a stinker. As far as Raw well it was a huge downgrade from last weeks show. Snuka, Manu and Rhodes are being booked to look like lackeys or even worse looking about effective as the Spirit Squad.

    Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on January 01, 2009 at 11:46 PM

     
     
    @Guest#9380:

    You completely ignored 80% of my post for one paragraph. Nicely done. I've been arguing this point for three straight columns, and I was never even talking about T&A in wrestling, I was talking about the Divas and their freaking outfits. I'm done discussing this issue, especially when the person (or people) talking about it won't bother posting under a name besides "Guest #XXXX." Thanks for reading though.


    Posted By: Jeremy Thomas (Registered)  on January 02, 2009 at 12:07 AM

     
     
    I belive one of the other columnists summed up Mr Orton earlier in the week just right with this quote "Seriously, who the fuck wouldnt want to be Randy Orton"

    Im more hoping it can be some "tweener card" they can play later on when Kane attacks Kelly or something then Orton makes an epic manly save but continues being himself. Anti Hero FTW~!


    Posted By: Brad (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 01:59 AM

     
     
    "You completely ignored 80% of my post for one paragraph. Nicely done. I've been arguing this point for three straight columns, and I was never even talking about T&A in wrestling, I was talking about the Divas and their freaking outfits."

    "They're Divas, not wrestlers" was a comment relating to their outfits? Okay.


    Posted By: Guest#1250 (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 03:58 AM

     
     
    If the Divas are all about sex appeal these days, WWE is doing a pretty crappy job of portraying them in that way.

    Posted By: mike (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 04:04 AM

     
     
    "Everything about the Divas is about sex appeal. Why do they put those stars and dice on poles? Because we all love seeing those ladies stretch their bodies out to reach for it. I'm not saying that the SD crew is completely talentless, and I never even implied such. Simply that the Divas are the sex appeal brand of the women's division and as such, they should look appropriately good doing it until their in-ring skills match up."

    How are the SD girls anymore the sex appeal brand than the Raw girls? Mickie, Beth, and Melina are on one show, Victoria, Natalya, and McCool are on the other. Kelly, Candice, and Layla are on one show, Maryse, Maria, and the Bellas are on the other. The difference isn't all that big.


    Posted By: christy (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 04:21 AM

     
     
    I actually gained some respect for Manu in that match. They went for a long time for a Raw match, Manu didn't come off terrible, he hit a nice dropkick and that moonsault. Yes he lost but I think in the long run the match was good for him. I can see him going another tough batle, maybe with Cena or Punk after he wins the IC Belt and then shaking hands afterwards as they gained respect. Then he can turn on Orton and set up a nice fued there. Just a thought

    Posted By: Guest#3493 (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 05:07 AM

     
     
    manu with a returning face and mentor UUUUUMAGA. I like it.

    Posted By: ted g (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 07:45 AM

     
     
    Maybe its me but, I fregin get annoyed when stables are mentioned and DX gets used as a measuring stick...

    I mean I know in the E universe all things great run through HHH, but the original DX wasn't much of a faction just HBK/HHH acting like pricks with Rude & Chyna, the actual faction consisted of HHH along with X-Pac and the NAO and outside of being insanely popular didn't really dominate like other top factions have in the past (and seriously I know Roma and Jarrett were Horseman at points but can you really consider anything X-Pac and Billy Gunn were involved in to be an all time great) and the recent return(s)have been nothing but tag team squashes...

    I can understand using Evolution in that matter, launched Batista and Orton, they dominated Raw, held all the belts and all that fun stuff great factions did, but the faction DX accomplished squat except for funny skits unless holding the European and the Tag belts = dominating faction....


    Posted By: Damage_Case (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 07:46 AM

     
     
    Wow Paul Burchill still has a job?

    I hope HBK/JBL doesn't happen at WrestleMania. I actually hope it doesn't happen at all, but not at WrestleFuckingMania of all PPV's.


    Posted By: Bubba (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 08:51 AM

     
     
    The Ridiculous:

    *THAT'S AN IMPRESSION?: Cena being annoying and once again trying way to hard to be like the Rock.

    * GOLDY'S BEING GOLDY: Why is this guy in the fed? What is the point? Unemployment at an all time high and THIS GUY has a job?


    Posted By: Kevin (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 09:03 AM

     
     
    I disagree with you JT. Jericho gave us a special holiday new years promo so he could talk about how the fans would break their resolutions. He then segued into talking about HBK and he cal;led him solipsistic.

    solipsistic
    –noun
    1. Philosophy. the theory that only the self exists, or can be proved to exist.
    2. extreme preoccupation with and indulgence of one's feelings, desires, etc.; egoistic self-absorption.

    You see, the definition of his word means that HBK probably didn't have any resolutions. The fans break resolutions, while HBK cannot even be bothered to make them because he is so self absorbed and he thinks he already does everything right.

    The promo made sense if you knew that word. But most of us had to look it up. By using big words, Jericho looks like even more of a condescending prick.

    Subliminally making us feel stupid and thus having us resent him even more is a very advanced heel tactic. This promo should have been in the Right section. That's just my take on it.


    Posted By: Polish Post (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 09:11 AM

     
     
    A big NO to HBK v JBL at Wrestlemania. After people started talking about the possibility of HBK v Undertaker at Wrestlemania, if we end up getting HBK v JBL then that is a joke.

    Nobody wants to see that match, nobody.


    Posted By: DB (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 10:14 AM

     
     
    Since Orton lost his match is he out of Legacy

    kidding of course but that might be why they keep manu in because randy lost too


    Posted By: Mike (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 10:33 AM

     
     
    Great recaps as usual , Larry .
    Hope you continue writing the same way next year too.



    A few thoughts for the future -

    HHH WILL definitely main - event WM .
    If he does not , I Declare myself to be a retard.


    HHH will WIN the title to close out WM.

    This is too easy.


    Randy Orton will win the rumble match .
    His number will be from 1 to 10 ,even though there is some chance of it being a late number.

    John Cena will be the champ till WM.
    Because Superman Retains.

    HBK will have the best match at this year's WM.

    MVP will win the MITB match.

    Hope for a reply , if you can .

    What do you think , will i get them all right and crown myself a WRESTLING GOD or i screwed them up so badly that i deserve to be jobbing weekly to ricky ortiz.?

    Have a great year , Larry.

    You are Mr. 411 .[ the best on the site today ].

    Sorry for ripping off HBK and y2j in the same sentence.
    :D


    Posted By: A fan (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 11:26 AM

     
     
    I'm a big Cena fan and I'm constantly defending him against the douches in these comments sections. But his backstage promo made me uncomfortable. Unlike his natural promo work, this seemed to be the first time he was actively forcing the comedy.

    His best promos and putdowns are when they are off-the-cuff and freestyle which is what makes him such a commodity. This seems like he took a script from WWE and just went through the motions. And why Michael Cole sounds like Harry Carey, I'll never know (but apparently few got the joke including the co-author of this column).

    This was almost as embarrassing as The Rock trying to get his "how's your lips" catchphrase over (which, like it or not Rock marks, failed miserably).

    Now that he can't rap the way he did in '03-'05, I'd prefer to have "serious Cena" or "improv Cena" on my TV vs. "cornball scripted Cena".


    Posted By: Brad B (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 01:10 PM

     
     
    "Two of the worst women on their entire roster? 17, I'd like to introduce you to the "Best of Kelly Kelly and Layla" DVD. Tell me when you're ready to gouge your eyes out and take it all back. Maryse isn't great, but she's improving and is far better than half of the women on the roster currently, especially in regards to the weak-ass Butterfly division. Hey, I'd have rather seen Victoria or Natalya too, but what are you gonna do?"

    Hey I know how badly Kelly Kelly and Layla suck but Maryse is easily just as bad as them and Michelle isn't much better. At least Michelle can be carried to a watchable match by someone like Victoria or Natalya. Maryse, Kelly Kelly and Layla are just the pits.


    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 01:45 PM

     
     
    I hated how Raw ended this week. But I have to admit it, they had me where they wanted me. I was begging HBK not to lay down for JBL. (Mark) Mission accomplished I want to see JBL eat Sweet Chin music more than ever now.

    Posted By: T-Mac (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 02:47 PM

     
     
    And the JBL/Michaels bullshit in the right? Really? If anything had ridiculous written all over it it was that unwatchable shit.

    Thank you for posting the Mickie picture though.


    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 02:58 PM

     
     
    can we please stop encouraging this charlie haas rubbish?

    Posted By: Guest#0756 (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 03:02 PM

     
     
    whats with the triple K references JT? i havent seen anyone use that except in your writing. is there a middle name noone else ever caught on to or are you a closet racist or is it just funny to use racial connotations?

    Posted By: tommy (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 03:12 PM

     
     
    "Hey I know how badly Kelly Kelly and Layla suck but Maryse is easily just as bad as them and Michelle isn't much better. At least Michelle can be carried to a watchable match by someone like Victoria or Natalya. Maryse, Kelly Kelly and Layla are just the pits."

    Michelle had 3 matches with Maryse than were better than her crappy match with Natalya at Great American Bash.

    Natalya is overrated to a mind boggling degree. She's good, but the best women's matches on Smackdown this year didn't even involve her.


    Posted By: Guest#4952 (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 04:35 PM

     
     
    @ Kevin: I think the WWE may have plans to do something with the Dust and Cody Rhodes in the future. Stupid, but a reason at least. Plus, he's entertaining to a degree.

    Posted By: Empire Of Ownage (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 04:51 PM

     
     
    "Michelle had 3 matches with Maryse than were better than her crappy match with Natalya at Great American Bash.

    Natalya is overrated to a mind boggling degree. She's good, but the best women's matches on Smackdown this year didn't even involve her."

    Have to disagree with you, all of the Michelle vs Maryse matches have been painful to watch and the only half watchable matches on Smackdown have involved Natalya or Victoria carrying the action.


    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 08:23 PM

     
     
    whats with the triple K references JT? i havent seen anyone use that except in your writing. is there a middle name noone else ever caught on to or are you a closet racist or is it just funny to use racial connotations?

    Posted By: tommy (Guest) on January 02, 2009 at 03:12 PM

    Santino calls her "Kelly Kelly Kelly", hence the triple K reference...


    Posted By: Damage_Case (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 09:50 PM

     
     
    "Have to disagree with you, all of the Michelle vs Maryse matches have been painful to watch and the only half watchable matches on Smackdown have involved Natalya or Victoria carrying the action."

    You really need to get over your pathetic crush on Victoria and Natalya.

    The Maryse vs. Michelle match from Smackdown in September topped anything else done by them, Natalya, Victoria, Maria, and the Bellas on Smackdown in 2008. The match was good and had a hot crowd. Their match on ECW the next week was pretty good, too.

    But apparently every girl on Smackdown who aren't named Victoria or Natalya has killed a pet of yours judging by the way you dismiss them, so you would never admit it.


    Posted By: Guest#4247 (Guest)  on January 02, 2009 at 11:34 PM

     
     
    Guest#4247 I think you're the one who needs to get over your crush on Maryse. Every match this year featuring Maryse has been pure shit and considering the WWE has been adding in cheers and boos to Michelle's matches I don't take any of those reactions seriously.

    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 03, 2009 at 08:28 AM

     
     
    i wanted to hang myself with my poor nattie's push bombed. how dare maryse show more personality and get over better than my horse-voiced goddess. my 5-star classics with the bellas were so much better than her matches with maryse

    and again, I think wwe adds crowd reactions on smackdown for maryse and michelle, despite the fact that the crowd is dead for michelle on tv just like they are at the live show and despite the fact that it doesn't make sense to add in cheers for a heel like maryse

    push Natalya! I have nothing else to live for!


    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 03, 2009 at 12:16 PM

     
     
    oh natalya! you are the best! i don't care about you having no heat or personality! i still love you!

    Damn that maryse for actually making her push work when my beloved nattie couldn't and didn't


    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 03, 2009 at 12:23 PM

     
     
    "Every match this year featuring Maryse has been pure shit and considering the WWE has been adding in cheers and boos to Michelle's matches I don't take any of those reactions seriously."

    Ignoring your brain dead, untrue claims about Maryse, the crowd was pretty much always dead for Michelle even on television.


    Posted By: Guest#2010 (Guest)  on January 03, 2009 at 01:50 PM

     
     
    "i wanted to hang myself with my poor nattie's push bombed. how dare maryse show more personality and get over better than my horse-voiced goddess. my 5-star classics with the bellas were so much better than her matches with maryse

    and again, I think wwe adds crowd reactions on smackdown for maryse and michelle, despite the fact that the crowd is dead for michelle on tv just like they are at the live show and despite the fact that it doesn't make sense to add in cheers for a heel like maryse

    push Natalya! I have nothing else to live for!

    oh natalya! you are the best! i don't care about you having no heat or personality! i still love you!

    Damn that maryse for actually making her push work when my beloved nattie couldn't and didn't"

    Writing stuff under my username, really, God whoever wrote this must be one sad lonely, pathetic little man who obviously has no grasp on reality.


    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 04, 2009 at 08:29 AM

     
     
    "Writing stuff under my username, really, God whoever wrote this must be one sad lonely, pathetic little man who obviously has no grasp on reality."

    Pot, kettle, black, IheartNatalya17.

    Go cry about Nattie not continuing to squash everyone after doing it for tbree months falied.


    Posted By: Piss off, 17 (Guest)  on January 04, 2009 at 11:13 AM

     
     
    "Writing stuff under my username, really, God whoever wrote this must be one sad lonely, pathetic little man who obviously has no grasp on reality."

    Wow, nothing about how awesome Natalya and Victoria are, and no delusional lies about how their matches with the Bellas were better than anything the rest of the Smackdown girls did in '08. Pretty impressive.


    Posted By: Guest#2511 (Guest)  on January 04, 2009 at 11:21 AM

     
     
    "Go cry about Nattie not continuing to squash everyone after doing it for tbree months falied."

    Just go away and cry.

    "Wow, nothing about how awesome Natalya and Victoria are, and no delusional lies about how their matches with the Bellas were better than anything the rest of the Smackdown girls did in '08. Pretty impressive."

    You've proven yourself to be the delusional one in this conversation.


    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 04, 2009 at 01:00 PM

     
     
    Natalya lost to the one of the Bellas at the Smackdown house shows this weekend.

    Try not to slit your wrists, 17.

    Actually, on second thought, go ahead.


    Posted By: Guest#4500 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:08 AM

     
     
    Nice response to guest2511, 17. I mean, seriously, way to go, dumbass.

    How far off are you from saying "I know you are but what am I"?


    Posted By: Guest#3486 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:18 AM

     
     
    Guest#4500

    Wishing death upon me, classy.

    Guest#3486

    If he's not going to put any effort into his comments why should I?


    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 07:38 PM

     
     
    Oh, well, at least the comedy and crying from 17 will get even better when Victoria and Natalya start jobbing to Michelle and Maryse.

    And good job just ignoring the posters who brought up examples of good matches not involving Victoria and Natalya. "No, my Vicky and Nattie are the best! Michelle, Maryse, yucky!"


    Posted By: Guest#5004 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 12:50 AM

     
     
    I was pretty sure I pointed out that they were wrong and laughed at the awful examples of matches they gave.

    Posted By: 17 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:13 PM

     




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